September 30, 2023 • 54 mins
Co-hosts Rodney McLeod Jr. and Anthony Walker Jr. go deep with Ogbonnia Okoronkwo & Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah on their African roots, NFL Africa, and some of the customs and traditions they still enjoy to this day.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Rodney McLeod, I'm Anthony Walker Joya, and you're tuning
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Today.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We got co hosts Roddy McLeod, two guests.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Tell your name and groo.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yao, all right, Jeremiah Ernest Yaou's who quote Moore Jay?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay. For the people that don't know, you can call
me Busy if that's easier. Yeah, we gotta.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We gotta start with the names, though I want to complicated. Yeah,
we gotta start with the name.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You see.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Now, I don't want to complicate it. I more so
wanting to get the authentic, you know, root of what
I actually am. You knows our functions, it's it's you know,
what really makes us us. I don't want to get
up here and say something that you know I may
not be, especially when I'm talking to my guys.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, these the gods you know, love love, you know,
just to start us off the mic.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, now, but I love the names, right, you know,
I think you know, when you grow up an African household,
big on tradition, right, and I feel like names have meaning,
have value. So is there a deeper meaning behind Jeremiah?
And like, what's yeah, you have to get you.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
So my name means favorite from God or favorite from
the Father is the direct Some names just needs favor
because I'm blessed, holy favored. My parents just want to
speak that onto my life.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And they did. You're here, which one of the names?
It really depends we.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Because I want to I want to know where Ernest
come from.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The Ernest.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So in our tradition me Ghana specifically with our con people,
you'll have each name has a specific meaning. Of course,
the first name, Jeremiah is more of a biblical name,
uh that roots from yetim Yao is the Hebrew term,
and it means that y'all will exalt or God will exalt,
lift up, to lift up. And then of course you
have Earnest, which is my great grandfather's name. You give
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somebody who you know is coming in just into the
world an ancestral name, and then you'll have y'ao is
you know, the name for my my crop. So it's
my sole name, right, So my sole name is basically
you know the name that the day that I was born.
I was born on a Thursday, and y'ao really is
like one who is like firm, more courageous, and then
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you have a hushu which is more of the paternal line,
and that's really means determination, et cetera, et cetera. So
it's a long breakdown, but that's that's where that's.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
The right rooted.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's the quote of the week right now, this substance.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
So how we get riding McCleod, we get righting with cloud.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm named after my father, you know. That's yeah, Yeah,
I don't know for third is gonna happen though, wife
shut that down. Yeah, that's another story.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
What do you think you know?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Third? Yeah, I don't know. You don't want you don't
want the tradition to continue to get them own stores? Yeah,
I think that's yeah, especially now that pressure man.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
The third that's gonna be tough to follow.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah. Third, it's great over there over there too much
chi chi chill shoes.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
But honestly, like you guys, the nand home Nigerian household, uh,
talk about the dynamic, the family dynamic, like there isn't
ours like growing up the parent and the culture, the
food and food like right, we want.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
To hear it all man like you know stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, I think, at least to start off with, I
think Obo grew up in more of a traditional home
than maybe I did. I grew up more in a
southern Floridian I grew up specifically with my mother. My
mother is not from Ghana. My mother is from Florida.
But I did have, you know, kind of like a
due growing up. I did spend a lot of time
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with my father here and there. But I think in
that Ganyani that you see really in me is is
a lot of you know, self evaluation, self study, along
with going back, you know, asking the elders, asking you know,
some of those who may know more about the culture,
some of my family members. That's already in Ghana, my
father taking me there, that's come from that. That's not
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necessarily my growing up. But for me, my household was
you know, a traditional uh you know, I would say Christian,
but it was it was more so like like a
very discipline and I grew up in the military household.
I don't know if anybody can relate, Yeah, yeah, so
it's very disciplined. Pentecostal Baptist. You know, dancing in the spirits,
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the type of household. You know, we didn't really have
no denomination. We was just really bouncing to church to church.
Whatever church had the most you know, family, the family vibes,
that's the one that we went to.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So that's.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Whichever one you know got out the latest, huh was definitely,
But really it seemed like we went to the one
that was the longest. Man, That's what I'm saying, Like
like his folks, they like, man, we in it, We
want to be in there for a while. Yeah, but
it goes to like this my mom, like you know,
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the scripture, and they say, like you raised the child
in the way he should go and he should not
depart from it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
She kind of took that very seriously. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
She used to break it down to me, like it's
twenty four hours in the day and people or they
raising their child, but it's really not because you need
eight hours. You go to school for eight hours, you
know what I'm saying, You got much left. Then you
got after school program that's four hours, right, And how
many people really two hours to eat? You know what
I'm saying, Yeah, you've got much time. They got two
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hours a day, hour day. How many people sit down
with each oldren then, so you.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Know that's that's rank crazy right there.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Okay, look, I don't guy as as a decorator upbringing,
but I grew up in the traditional African household.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Parents were just super strict. Wanted me to make good grades,
come home early, just you know, do the right thing
and go to church. You know.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I was a skateboarder though, and they hated that. You
know why is that?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, skate culture isn't really like skate coature and
Nigerian culture.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
You know, it's like free spirit.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, I'm coming home like super late.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You know, I'm I'm my clothes all ripped up, you
know what I'm saying, got my vans, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They see all that, they see like holds for me
just wiping on the board. So they didn't like that.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
So when I actually started playing football, they they sort
of they only cared about education. So when I started
playing football, they were just like, oh, so you're skateboarding
and then football is like another distraction from school, you know.
So I had to hide it from them initially, so
then I guess until I got a scholarship.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I wasn't. I was just like, you know, put an
envelope down. Yeah you know what I'm saying. They were like,
what's your first game? You know? That's how I went
for me though a bunch of skateboard I still I'm
still double now, you know, that's just that's just who
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I am. I remember.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I remember when we was in Gonea specifically Oh Bow,
you know, spent a lot of time at the skate
parks and I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Like, why keep going?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Like I just wanted them to know that like over
here like like you saw, I connected with them, they
saw skating like it was it was like we was here.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I still talk to him now, really, yeah what you do?
You did skate the skateboard? Like how did you?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I think I was just a big fan of like
for real, you know, skateboard p Yeah, you know like
Luke Fiasco, Yeah that tunes.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah. I was that typical. Yeah you know seven five,
come on, come on. I was like the only one
in my area skateboarding to I was like, what are
you doing? You was hooping everybody. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
like why are you doing that?
Speaker 6 (08:34):
So when did you start playing football?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I'll say.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Summer going to junior year and how did that come about?
One of my coaches was just like, so I had
a gross burd. I was like five seven when like
myself was stop that's what I was like five seven.
The summer went by, I came back to school. All
the coaches was like, so they kept trying to get
me to play, and I was like, re start. I
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didn't really vibe, but like, you know, like really just
with you know what I'm saying. I'm a skater, you know,
you know that little you know what I'm saying. So
I'm like, I'm not I'm not really trying to be
around like a bunch of jocks for real, you know.
Then I went and and everybody, no, look, I started
kicking it. Everybody was cool. It was a little family,
you know. So it was just like my skate family.
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It was like my football football family. So everybody brought
me in. I sucked really bad though it was nothing
like it's funny, Like I started actually playing for real
because one of my friends got hurt. It was really good.
He got hurt and they just threw me in. They're
just like, you know, just hold it down, like until
he gets and I started going crazy. I started going crazy.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Imagine playing football that late.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I actually got a question for you going up in
the Nigeria home. I see you got tattoos. How did
the parents take the tattoos? I mean they hated it?
Yeah I don't. Yeah, I'm very long. When you get
when you get your first hat fourteen wow? Yeah yeah,
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they was hot, like ready to kick me out. You
think you think girl, everything what we stand for?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And I felt like I was. I was he was
doing that on purpose? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
At that time, I was just like yeah, yeah a
few times. I even mentioned it that too. I was smack,
wash my mouth.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You can't even mention it rings either. It was up. Yeah,
I came when I got the magnet. You have to
manage jump. When I got my ear rings, I was
I remember that whooping. I remember that one talking about it.
But yeah, it was one of the ones.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah we all we all have to do something I
got I did. I got my ear spirits without my
parents knowing what I'm literally, I go get my ear spirits.
I had one with my best friend. One of my
best friends growing up, had his mom give me to.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Get Okay, you know what I'm saying because obviously on
the age, so you gotta have a guardian signed off
so that happens. I'm hiding it. I told my dad
though he was cool. My dad and my MOMK, yeah,
separate hanks. So then I'm going out just around prom season.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's why I got it. I need to hear ring for.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm ready to go shopping for the fit. I kid
you not like I've been hiding it, like forever. I'm
in a passenger. See, my mom just happened to look
right before we hit the highway. She was like, what's
that in your ear? And I used to have this
like a little stick in there, just the hole, just
to hold the whole dog. She hit the U turn
so fast, did eighty back to the crib, got there
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like two minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It was Yeah, it was a wrap. It was a wrap.
I kept it though I still had it the problem.
Looking good was worth it. Yeah, it was worth Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's interesting how those experiences like make us kind of like,
you know, think about like like, even if you know,
we kept being rebellious, even if we kept you know,
doing the things we wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
At the end of the day, we kind of grew
more of a love for our parents.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, you know, after for sure, it's like I can
really understand why you, you know, wanted to implement what
you want to implement. You know, you can kind of
make that connection even even though you know you're still
yourselves wrong.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
For sure, I was rebellious.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I was not.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
My dad said no nothing, There.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Was no coach, nothing, and here and control of that
playing time.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
My won't necessarily too rebellious like I would do things,
but then I corrected out. I never made like a
mistake like twice the thing on the football field. We
appreciate that still, but I think, but again, that's what
I'm saying, like a lot of those lessons, you know,
the smaller lessons make up you know, the whole or
of the the art piece.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So I think, you know, even when uh, you know,
we talk about like the upbringing piece being a rebel
or doing something that's that's wrong, I feel like I
was obedient. I remember I called my mom the other
day and somebody was basically telling me I was a rebel.
I called him, like, tell him what I want to
you know, She's like, my baby was good. You know,
my baby was a good man growing up. So I
(13:27):
think a lot of the times, like I may view
it as a rebel. I maybe view it as like
disrespectful sometimes, but then like really you ask your parents,
like I'm curious, like if you ask your parents, like
you know, how it was over growing up? It was
a good child, good child right at the end of
the day, you know what I mean, it'll just say.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Like I have my own mind. Yeah that's yeah. I
think it's important man, talk about that. What's the food?
What was the food?
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, you know we were talking a little bit before.
There's a lot of parallels and.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Like you know, we cross over a lot, but Nigerian
food is definitely different than Guani and food.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Is it better or different?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
I mean perspective, I think it's way better because I
went to gunning with him and I no, no, I
would say.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It was cool, but it was like.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
It was like this like like they will tell me like,
oh in Nigeria, this is like they'll try to compare
like before I ate it, you know, so I'm going
into it thinking, Okay, this is like when my mom
made this.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
When I'm eating it, I'm just like.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
But but I'll say this the July first it was
it was good, it was decent.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But what you let me let me tell you, let
me hear about See this, this is where it really
comes down to, right, you know, to say back. So
this is the principal of criticism right here, or the
principle of evaluation. Okay, right, So he grew up in
the Nigerian family, m hmm, with homemade Nigerian food. He
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comes to Ghana to evaluate. Let me see what the
Ghanian food looks like. And it's getting what restaurant food,
restaurant food. So you said you went local, but even
the locals know how to make mass foods. They got
to figure out something technique, something to do that they
can make the same food the same.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Tastes, right, food trucks, et cetera. Now you may be
a little biased.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Now you know.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Everything that we like that spicy, they like you sweet,
you know what I'm saying. And it was just different.
The Gan food is really hot and their food is really.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Like, yeah, we got some we got some spicy, some
spicy dishes. But I see what you're saying. I actually
don't really like spicy food. Yeah, like it was sweet,
that was different and some people making spicy. You know
it's you know, I think it's a multitude of different opinions.
You know, different uh ways to cook the food, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
What's your what's you what? How are you constructing your plate?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Like if if we had an opportunity and chef was like, look, Jay, okay, give.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Me your vegan. I'm talking about this. This is for us.
This for the people we want. We want some food.
We want something food. What you're telling what you tell me,
I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have okay, but for us,
I got you for us, But I'm forced them to vegan.
I'm not forcing them to go vegan. Your plate growing
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let me go first. See this is what they want
to hear. They want to hear me say a bunch
of like chicken. They won't here.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I would recommend that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
See me.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Look, if y'all came in the jail with me, go
we don't go to my crib. We I ain't gonna
take you to the restaurant, but my mom gonna make
you some food. Food with a goosey soup.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Yeah, y'all never heard of it. It's like real spicy.
You got some nice vegetables. You can get your choice
of protein chicken goat. Put it all in there, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, and on the side we're
gonna have like some Jely price. Yeah, probably put some
spicy chicken in there.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
All right. You know there's real dry up, so you
need some water. What he painted? He painted that picture like, okay,
got me curious.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
It's interesting because remember the example that I gave prior
to about the evaluation. First thing you do when you
go to Nigeria where you go come to his crew?
The first thing you do when you go to Ghanad
where you go? I tried to you, you take me
where you live? Well, my house is a little far.
You didn't try.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You didn't try.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, I tried, you know, NFL Africa and we had
to stay on like that Tenuary and it just wasn't
on the So let's get into an NFL Africa.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
That was a great That was one of the best
chicks of my life. How did that come about? What
was the experience? Like, how is it being in the
NFL and going back over there?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Ain't doing that cool? Are you doing that?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
That was a good Yeah, that was a good little yeah.
Sure shout start with that. Yeah, he wanted to know,
like because he said, all been pretty cool for many
all player. You know you'll play with each other, y'ahing
off the field.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So up, he said, Uh, so you have the opportunity,
you know, to come with NF Africa coming come up.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Okay, I needed it, that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Come told you.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
I had a couple of you know, conflict. It was
asnute you know, you last minute to So don't do that.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I know, I see that's what I don't need.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I need those.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I need the date now. I need it now because
I know you already talked to you in the locker room.
One of that. We wanted to ask you we could
we can invest He got the date. Wait, he just
told me. He told me.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Look, he said, we're going in a week. Were about
to go help out kids in Africa. I said, look,
and I cleared it in Africa, cleared it.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You had something playing. Yeah, okay, it's about the wife. Hey, look,
look I got a girl wife.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Different even Look, but.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I cut my London trip short and then ended up
going to Africa and find and doing the rest of
my trip. I made it work.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Got PJ Man.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He look, that was Africa. That was I'll be that
next year. Okay, So was what was the question NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Africa tell us about? You know what I'm saying, that journey,
that experience, the why behind it? Tell them what I
tell him a little about the trip. Well, I think
the why really stems from a place to build a bridge.
First and foremost. You know, we have a lot of
one hundred plus maybe one hundred and twenty plus in
the field, you know, stars and field athletes that are
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have their ground roots somewhere, originate somewhere on the the
land right, whether it's Liberia, you know, whether it's Nigeria, Ghana,
every coast, every coast right Cameroon. We have a lot
of uh, you know, athletes that are from Africa. So
I think NFL Africa making that transition to really focus
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more on developing uh, you know, youth that's in Africa. Well, well,
I think, first and foremost, build a bridge, and secondly
I think that well, I think my journey is a
little bit different in reference to the NFL Africa. You know,
I also had a you know, an aim in reference
to like education while I was there because I have
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a nonprofit called in Quah and I do also solo
trips to be able to ape a month before they went.
But specifically for NFL Africa, I think first and foremost
it was to build that bridge. And then in the
bridge in reference to the players here, the players there,
the youth here, the youth there. Uh you know, they
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started flag football as well there and we had we
actually had a team from Ghana come from uh yeah,
they've played in Vegas, so you see that tradition. Yeah,
we coached a few of the uh they had the
eagle stuff on, which is crazy, but you know it's cool. Uh.
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But yeah, the main reason was to really build that
bridge to you know, being able to expand the diversity
in the NFL. Not only that, but you know, once
you know a lot of the youths get over here
and they may go to university, provide more opportunities for them.
You know what we call global global networking, right to
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be able to go to a different country, uh, to
you know, gain education, to gain resources, and to be
able to help the community or the uh yeah, help
the community.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
In which you came.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So but that that's the reason why I think that
in the NFL Africa did that now, you know, go
a little bit deeper on the So we.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Had a camp. We ran like a combine. It was
about about one hundred people all over. Yeah, and then
camp was crazy, like those dudes are athletic. Yeah, I'm
talking like freak athletes. Like we had to meet Jeremiah
and Quiddy. We had to pick out of those one
hundred we picked five.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Wow, the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
So out of the five we picked, I think three
out of five recorded the sack already.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Wow, that's tough.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
In the preseason was like two years ago.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Yeah, no, that's tough.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Real life scouts. Yeah. And the other he's uh he
started left tackle for the Chiefs the preseason. Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
They doing really really really good athletes and and they
get like a year of development.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I think they go to there's I think there's a
training facility. I believe in London. I remember I went
right after.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, the training facility there and and it really just
them from the age groups is really mad as a lot.
You know, whether they're from sixteen to you know, eighteen,
they may have opportunity to train and go to a university. Yeah,
but if they're from like nineteen twenty twenty one to
like twenty three is they'll go to like a practice
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squad and it's really crazy, like dudes.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
That we met in the village like a year later
just watching them suit up in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
No, it's crazy crazy, they's super exced to see you. Yeah,
how did that combine constructed? Like is it the combin
that we know it to be.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
It's like here, very similar, like you know as far
you know resource is a little different, yeah, but very similar.
Just to come by that we went through, yeah, forty
times vertical. We didn't want on ones though. Okay, you know,
Joie k.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Got out there.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
This is I know you got rid of that.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Tried you for real, Yeah, I had out on them.
It was one of the better ones though. It was piano.
Yeah it Now.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think it really stems from just you know, a
lot of those guys they see opportunity, they want to
take it, and they value the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Sometimes we may have an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Uh here in the States, we look at it like
I may have nothing, you know, but for them, it's
like this this is right so uh and for them,
you know, you provide an alternative and they're gonna take
that alternative, and you know, I calls examined it all
the time, specifically with my nonprofit. Is like, you know,
it's easy to tell you know, young brother to get
off the streets or you know, tell them to you know,
(24:36):
stop selling drugs or whatever. What he was doing right
helping them, you know exactly if you're not giving them
an alternative, it means nothing. It's like, well, okay, if
I stop this, then what you So I think that's
really what the opportunity is. It's like, okay, well I'm
doing something here, but too if I miss a day
or two, you know what I'm saying, I got an
alternative here, and I see this as really my only alternative.
(24:59):
So they go real art man, They real competitive, you know,
they talk trash. I mean some of them speaking you know, treat.
It was like a bunch of different like African countries,
that's the thing, ye speaking everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
We had a lot of translators there.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Funny is that all through NFL Africa.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
So I think they didn't want Kenya. This year.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
We had My year was Ghana. They had one in Kenya.
I think they're going to South Africa this year, going
to different different countries.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Yeah, some of the ones that are are everybody developed
to that one spot and do the combine and do
the combine.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
How's that selection process to gather OC does it with?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So Ghana was a little bit different because O see,
obviously I'm in Ghana. Oly kind of reached out to me, Hey,
you know, what are some of the players you think
that are? You know, so I had a camp before that,
so a lot of the players that I had in
my camp, I had one hundred and fifty. I was like, Okay,
I want this guy to come to that. Get this
out to me. I want this got to come to that. Yeah,
that's a good picks too. I have some good picks too.
(26:04):
But you know a lot of oh see minutes. He'd
been doing this for so long and he got these
guys coming from Nigeria. That's like six five.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
And I'm thinking about it because we all do camps
back at home during the off season and stuff like that,
especially like in the States or whatever, like people being
from Miami or like Rod being from you know, yeah, yeah,
supposedly good football, but you know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Come on, we don't respect on it.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I'm just saying, right, I'm just saying but over the
solid football, solid football.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We know.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
But oh you know, like what if we did that?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know, because we do youth camps like you know, yeah, kids,
little kids, you know, middle school no, no, not high school,
but find some kids. Find some nineteen twenty twenty one,
you know that could.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Still play because I know a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
But the difference store I think, like the wrong like
athletic ability did not just you know, I'm just being
he just out, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Just do look look, look look we pulled up.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
It was like five six five d ms running four fives,
Like like, you're just not gonna go to PG and
find that, right, You're not go to Miami. And now
I don't believe you just said no. It's like there's
a there's a difference. What's the difference. But this is
(27:22):
because I need to know, this is the difference. The
difference is. Okay, So I did a camp in Ghana.
I did a camp back in the States in my
hometown seven five. And this difference from from my point
of view, when I did the camp in Ghana, it
was more focus. It was more urgent urgency. Now now
(27:42):
now not even just now, but like you I'm trying
to I'm intentive. I'm listening saying at home, I do
the camp in Virginia. You know, similar urgency, right, but
because there's more distractions, because there's more things. They play
the game right and Ghana of like their daily lifestyle
is athleticism at the bucket of my head up and
(28:03):
maybe doing something, you know, carrying this, carrying that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I may be a shepherd. You know, we got guys.
A lot of guys are traditional.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
We had some O which is like the hereditary healers,
so a lot of them are like doing a lot
of things with their body non stop, day to day,
day to day. It's the same thing you know in
the United States. But some guys may say, you know,
I'm trying to be a rapper. I mean, I'm trying.
You may have a lot of too, like.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
And look to ask that.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
It's like, because there's so many alternatives, you probably already
have got the opportunity. You're not going to find like
a six or five dude have never been approached to play,
you know.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
What I'm saying. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You see, you had the high school where the football is,
You had the high school where the basketball.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
These guys like they've never had any opportunity, Like they
were just diamond in the roof, like we found you know,
like that's the first time being like seen as they.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Got cherish.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
The opportunity and what you have to say too, And
this is what I don't I don't want to paint
a picture of the brothers that we're talking about, thinking
they're all in poverty. Like you got some royals that
are also you know, into the camps, some that are
already like well they already have a well technique, they've
been training. You had a few of those guys, right,
(29:23):
you can tell, yeah, and you can tell the ones
that have actually been training. You may have something that's
coming from you know, South Africa, something that's coming from
that area.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And the ones that played basketball, you could really.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yea basketball is pretty moving pretty well through Africa American stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
It's real good to see, man, Like you know, what
you guys are doing bringing exposure, you know what I'm saying,
and this sort of opportunities over to your countries.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
You know what I'm saying, These are your people. And
it goes a long way, and it says a lot
out each of you. You know what I'm saying and
who you are, and of course you know you you
going over there and being a part of the NFL Africa, Like.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Just what what what is it?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
What has it meant to you to be a part
of that for you know what I'm saying these past
two three years, uh, since you guys have been going
over there, I.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Mean, it's been really important to me just to be
able to make a difference. You know, we got we
got like Rod coming out now, you know, like I
know NFL Africa. At the birth of it, we didn't
they thought it was gonna be more just like players
from Africa, you know. So for like if you came,
that would be such a you know, it would just
show so much growth from where we started, you know,
just getting so much bigger. More people in Africa gonna
(30:44):
get an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
So so I love its cool and I think it's
it's a stepping stone.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I think that once people are starting to see it more,
then guys will also go back and do more camps. Right,
maybe out one hundred players, right to do more camps,
but not only just camps, but to do something that's
more sustainable. Maybe take four or five, maybe ten guys
and develop a program for them to stay in touch
with them every month instead of like doing one camp
(31:12):
and it's leaving it done, or doing something more sustainable
in the community, such as maybe a water well or
seeing if we do some solar panels. However that may
look like in reference to the benefit of the area
that you're doing it in, you know, and so Africa
is great, right, But to find something that's going to
(31:33):
stick with the community and give to the community instead
of just you know, maybe hey, I'm evaluate this guy, come.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Over here, Like the community is something that is self
sustainable that they can have without us.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Have always come back exactly correct, right, and I think
it's still for education. So one of my aims is
to get a lot of the guys here, whether it's Cleveland,
Brown's NFL and have them contribute, because I want to
have an academy in Ghana, right, not only just any academy,
but a problem to solution academy, right, and something that
is stemmed from pure education, but for the education of
(32:08):
the benefit of the people that's involved, and not more like,
you know, just an education and just in the broad sense,
you know, you go to college, you don't figure out
what you want to major to, you know, not that,
but more so aimed too. Okay, hey you got this issue,
you know, you got you know, an environmental issue, you
may have a you know, gender based issue, whatever it
may may look like, and trying to solve those issues
(32:29):
instead of just kind of making it very you know,
broad or abstract.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So I think that's what I think that the NFL
Africa has done for the maybe the lift off or
the stepping stool for other guys to be conscientious and
be conscious of I think what's needed there.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, boy speaking man, no doubt you
can tell they passionate about it, yes, sir, Yeah, sir.
You know it's a little different looking at it as
a little hearing about it, and it's a little different,
you know, like we grow up and like you know,
you give back, you know, I get back in my community.
But it's like it's a little different. I wanted to
(33:08):
see it, Like I'm excited to go now because I
want to see it.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Like and you know, see like we also got like
you know, we did we did the camps, but we
got to like just like connect like with our ancestors
as well.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
We went to I don't know what the area is called.
It's called Cape Coast, known as the Gold Coast.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
During the slave it was like where like I guess
the biggest like slave trade, Like yeah, so I want
to speak wrong. Yeah, yeah, so it was one of
the major areas.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
The area was.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
In past times called Elmina. Elmina was known as a
very you know, broad and kind of one of the
first areas you know that the Portuguese went, you know,
to learn how to work the ships. We learned how
to work the trade routes and really show up, you know,
in mercy to a lot of African chiefs and leaders.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Contrary to what may be the you know, the narrative,
they kind of showed up like hey, like you know,
we want to learn from you at first. But then
you know, of course they established a huge castle. There
was a church underneath or above. The actual slave dungeons
were like the blood and you know, the change. So
we can talk about that, but it is a very
like high energy place because so many of the slaves
(34:23):
has passed.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Through that area. We got to visit like the actual
like yeah, yeah, so for me experience.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
And going to doing being a part of like NFL
Africa will be my first experience over in Africa. So
you know, there's something that has been near and there
on my heart trying to you know, get there. And
this is definitely give me a reason, you know what
I'm saying, the right reasons. I always wanted to go. Yeah,
And it was like like you always think of a
reason not to write up, like or why not I
(34:55):
would go somewhere else. But there's there's our roots, there's
our time.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It's important, like I think, especially like when more guys
are starting to come, you know, came and you know
we're coming like more of a you know, a more
vibrant place to be. But I tell people all the
time when they go to the land, do something cultural first,
Do something traditionally rich first, instead of maybe going to
the capital city, so you know, go in the middle
(35:23):
of the country, usually towards the middle of the country,
maybe northern of the countries where a lot of the
tradition realized. Of course the coast as well. Uh, but
get away from the tourism a little bit, you know,
I want to immerse mysel commercial.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Environment. Don't stay with him, go with him Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Well, you know, so I definitely know who I'm gonna
go with for sure. Make sure dropped the right names.
You know what I'm saying. I can't wait, man, yeahs
doing this all right, let's stand on the screen.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Oh yeah, I gotta talk about gotta talk about it,
gotta talk about it.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Yeah, which were y'all favorite?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I ain't going that that person right there?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Total that might that might be the best one.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I said.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I gotta move out the way with no doubt that
I'm not gonna You came with something that, Yeah, you
felt away general, you felt the way you can tell
about it about the face structure, different, different energy different,
but it's a.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Different energy that come with each one though correct.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Of course the K is more traditional more you see
the phase, Yeah, through the phase I was on, just
to connect the modern, you know. Yeah, I don't want
to get too far you know, ancient like the colors
and that one too. Yeah, the prince, the prince is
that's Senegalese. Actually that's not gone yet. That's the gale
did you wear the one that they made us? And
(36:58):
gun we were out there, that's the one right there
on the right, the right. We won the right one
is the Ghana, the middle one when we went is
the Senegaluese, and then the left one of course was
all business is uh you know, I call it my
asiatic fit.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I might got to go week one.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
This year.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I like that. I like the accessories he had on.
My dog had to go. He had a little dance
with it on the way. Yeah yeah, he was stepping.
I like, I'm, of course go with the first one. Uh,
but I like that.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I like the third one because the more the crown,
the crown, the crown, the some star is definitely we've
seen the risks to.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Yeah, so this has been something that you obviously thought
about it and infant you're putting the emphasis on this year.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like what, I be honest with you, I like I
never really sat down. I was like, yo, about to
you know, wear a bunch of like you know, garments
or whatever. It's just like, like, you know, it wasn't
more like it was more like on the fly. It
was like one, I'm aware this week right now, this.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
On the fly. On the fly is just in the close.
It's one of these not every day I'm telling you
the fly. I wasn't like I'm about to play this out.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
This is actually from a brand, and I'm about to
come out with I won't supposed to say that, but
you know I'm gonnat.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's one of my left Come on, this is dropping.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
This is one of my lefts. It's a brand. I'm
coming out. We're called a Brible and brable is like
a mission. It's missioning.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
So you'll see you see, I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Who you're not gonna see that that that symbol nowhere
that that's that's custom made on camera for me.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
But you already you got the trademarks and everything. I
got the tradek you. That's why.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Somebody Yeah you know, I got a guy guyed to
make the outfit for me. I need that a different
that might we might have to get that for the
for the you know what I'm saying, we stepping red
carbon and that what was it called? Well that's not
called I brob the your brain. The brand is called
(39:15):
a broblem B.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, I like that. Can we get some photos of this?
You you know, we know how we seen them.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
So what's that you're not trying You're not trying to
wrap you know what one? So I mean I just
haven't you with Okay, he got three three three right now,
right like three. You needed to just send me, you know,
sending got some, I got some for I got some.
You know, I need you to sport first week. But
(39:57):
not many people can't. Not many people can do that,
you know what I'm saying. Not many people are willing
to step out, like to step out and be confident,
and they and the heritage like their culture like it's culture.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Is I got you, I got you. The culture is
on the NFL th that's that's like iwer like that's powerful.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Like nobody like family gatherings. This is what we're wearing.
We go to church.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
This let's talk.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
It's like I know that. I know the DM is
going crazy. You put it every week, you put it
on MS looking crazy. You put it on right now?
You the one? What's the one? Uh? Got a couple?
Speaker 6 (40:47):
We got a couple of questions from the fans that
we want to ask you. They got a couple, you
know some no.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
More on the spot.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
I start off with the first one.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
If you guys had to pick one guy from the
team to be your body guy, who would it be?
This is from Ryan Underscore Fraser.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Like nobody, you know, nobody gonna try him like this
is like six, like three ninety.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Then all the time you want to sing, he's singing.
It might be That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Go ahead, think somebody. I probably you know what, oh why?
I probably go with Matt Man I'm tripping and.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Adam just because jump the cable always marked up. But
I feel like your body guy gotta know time and place.
Your body guy got to know like when not to
be like super aggressive and like I feel like that
kind of controls timper now a little, a little good.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I know he got some some past because of his PASTUF.
I think he like tried if you.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
So I go with Adams Joe all right, I like
I like that the LB LB bro all right. So
next one, we got what is your favorite show to being?
And this is from Hey Underscore Lisa Marie.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Lisa Marie. Yeah, what's your favorite show right now? Netflix? Mom?
Speaker 5 (42:28):
Where you where you at? What I'm doing too right now?
Jumping back and forth between top Boy and suits.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh yeah, top Boy, Top Boy. That's the one that's when.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
When I just like don't want to really follow the storyline,
I'm watching them on my phone.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeahs Cools nine seasons, Top Boy three seasons.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, wow, TV, What you got.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
TV?
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I'm trying to find somebody used to watch you know,
you don't watch TV. So everybody like I saw that
five years ago? Do that possible time? What you got?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I like to It was two shows that was similar shows,
Game of Thrones, right, the Vikings, the Vikings, Yeah, slept
on both both of them joints.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I watched both of them joints in like a couple
of weeks. I can see that. I can see that
what Vikings like Like, so it got a lot of tradition. Yeah,
it's not like they're talking about on the internet right now.
It's like kingdom like all of that.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, you know, yeah, it's just a tradition to where
like you'll see like you know, women and men kind
of like in their essence, yeah, protectors and you know
you just got a lot of tradition and a lot
of principles like tradition.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, that's why I can see yeah royalty all queen.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Yeah, that's that's it. With the sister, like you know,
there you go, like here you go, you see you
trying to throw it out, you know, exposed to that.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Do that we double up another one on that. Yeah,
we got.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
All right, So this next one we got what would
you do if you weren't a football player? And this
is from Lou talk about that, man, you weren't a
I mean, you weren't a ball player. Don't say basketball,
I mean I mean for me, like I feel like
I'm doing everything I want to do now, you know,
I do photography, I do some styling.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, you know. Yeah, everything I want to do, I'm
doing it. So tell them boys, man, when when you
hang them up like stylist, you already you already tapped in.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
He's going on.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
You actually actually got a gallery on the fifth in
New York.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
We're going, We're going, We're going.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
I'm saying, I'm saying stylish, stylish. If you're looking for
a stylish hanging up, looking for a stylish stylist, you
can but taking them photos though, yeah, yeh yeah, I
know I'll be seeing you.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
You said, when you're done playing, you out of here,
you mean moving, I'm moving to London, London.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, I can see it.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
That's that's what fashion, that's what the fashion.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
But that's what NFL International Headquarters are. Yeah, photography, man
took off. Yeah, yeah, photography got a guy. Yeah, yeah,
I really just I want to show people my unique perspectives.
We don't know one. I just want to show me.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
Yeah, okay, mister basketball, Yeah no, no, that's outside of that.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I've seen you.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
You got the answers show, show show the people, the
kids beat up ones man.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, shout out seven five. It's a good rebound fit.
Shut out. Shout that out here. I said that. That's
when we was in high school. College's still the same time.
See for a little smaller about the suit for team
let's super new, try trying. You don't know, he me
(45:56):
at the end, Why you don't know that?
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I'll be a diplomat though, I think I want to
like be, you know, like in charge of my home.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Like I want to be like he's making like like
somebody that travels the country the country, represent your country.
Yeah yeah, I think that's hard. Like I think the
most valuable job in the world is problem solving. Okay,
Like I don't think it's a more valuable job than
being a problem solving. Everybody got problems. Everybody got issues.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I never know. You can identify, but if you're not
to solve them, I never know. What's surprise every he
got he got a gym?
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Oh yeah, come on, come on some drake. Give him
the drake was working on. It didn't make me. Don't
give it too much doing that.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
I already know you sink.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Don worry about it. Jeremih he can't sing no no,
I ben love my wife.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
The other day, I said, you know, jailk can see
first I thought you were just you know, playing around.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
He no, not to day I said, yeah, look I
want said I walked to the locker. Yeah, cut different.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
I'm gonna sign him for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
You gotta style me one time.
Speaker 6 (47:26):
You you know you're not gonna work nothing over, tell
you I'm gonna sen.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
My style.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Think about being a good stylist to make people do
what you want correct and that they can just come
up with.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
Like a.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Let me do one thing for you.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Let's not let them get away from the question though.
If you won't playing football over y'all be that's for y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
We just we're gonna get this before we leave though,
because I'm actually interested in this question. It's gonna help
me understand my brother more.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
Okay, like we already had his coaches.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I can appreciate that it's all gonna be a coach.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
That's a good that's a good alternative. But I think
he's gonna coach because he really understand the game. So
I feel like he's gonna spread the knowledge.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
You know, I've been around the game alone a long time,
so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Gem. I can just see you doing something like football,
like with your mind, you know, legend there would you.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
You know, we know you got some gyms.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Come on, I ain't got nothing for y'all. Know cool
your brother with he got something on. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Man, thought I was fitting for the for the topic today,
and the guys we had on set appreciate for me.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Shoot, uh, you know, I think I look good.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I think I'll find myself on TV somewhere talking about
the game.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Enjoy that. Do a lot of.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
Community work, so nonprofit space to uh, that's like I
found my my purpose, my purpose.
Speaker 6 (49:04):
Yeah, no doubt for sure.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
But yeah, you know that's just a couple. It was
on the NFL network at the beginning of the year, right.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
Knowledge was, Yeah, I was up there dropping game by
one was you didn't put him in your tough safety.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Day. That's my god. Oh come on, man, goals we
all day the one you got a chance to redeem
yourself to say. Yeah, come on, man, come on, come
on Brown's uniform. That's it. You can say that I
had just signed. I was giving Brown's big loved. I
(49:49):
was what I was spending on every time was hold
it down. That boy body over there talking, Come on, man,
I gotta let him know he's biased. He was earlier.
Now he can't he can't tell. He can't togs. He
was like, yeah, I see it, I see it now,
I see it now, right, I see it.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
We still got along with now we gotta keep making
them a believer. Feel yea doing something right now.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
It's talking about your traditions at home traditional Nigerian And
you know, what's your favorite tradition.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Tradition or just like my family tradition yours.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
M hmm.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
What's your favorite that your family does that you you know,
I tell you right now. Mine was Christmas, all my
family getting together. That was like the only time we
were all able to get together. So that was pretty
dope for me.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Yeah, I'll say, uh, sometimes my dad would just like
have us all come downstairs. My dad like he loved music,
so he'll like get one of his old tapes and
some like some funky groovy like disco music, and my
mom would just be dancing and we would just be chilling,
just listen to like, oh, like groovy like this music
we used to just kicking just like that's like growing up.
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As long as I can remember, I can remember, like
just me like being in the living room. My parents
just get get him down.
Speaker 6 (51:10):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
That's tough.
Speaker 6 (51:12):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
You know, my mom may be a little outsider. I think.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
One of my favorite traditions is like our funeral rights.
Actually I knew he was going to like.
Speaker 6 (51:23):
Like somewhere, but let's take you and bring you back.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
That's why I say that though, like the f I
don't feel like we we honored dead enough those transition enough,
Like our funeral rights is like maybe some days, like
it's a certain colors, a certain energy tradition, my favorite
tradition because like you get to see like the true honoring,
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depending on of course you know who the being is,
the true honoring and.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Like the transition from like life to life that's necessary life.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
That yeah, different perspect on that life to life, life
to life as in like like time in our sense
is circular like it's lenear to but they go like it. Yeah,
so like life to life is like you have one
realm which is already we in and in the realm
of those who have right, and that's also another life right,
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and their life can be another life. Of course why
you name uh, you know, a newborn after somebody who's
so it's almost like life to life, right, So that's
my simple tradition.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I like it. Yeah, he said Christmas.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
Yeah, you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
I didn't know if that's good. It's crazy, makes sense.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
You always bring it back, Take you there, bring you back,
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Today.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We got co hosts Roddy McLeod, two guests.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Tell your name and groo.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yao, all right, Jeremiah Ernest Yaou's who quote Moore Jay?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay. For the people that don't know, you can call
me Busy if that's easier. Yeah, we gotta.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We gotta start with the names, though I want to complicated. Yeah,
we gotta start with the name.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You see.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Now, I don't want to complicate it. I more so
wanting to get the authentic, you know, root of what
I actually am. You knows our functions, it's it's you know,
what really makes us us. I don't want to get
up here and say something that you know I may
not be, especially when I'm talking to my guys.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, these the gods you know, love love, you know,
just to start us off the mic.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, now, but I love the names, right, you know,
I think you know, when you grow up an African household,
big on tradition, right, and I feel like names have meaning,
have value. So is there a deeper meaning behind Jeremiah?
And like, what's yeah, you have to get you.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
So my name means favorite from God or favorite from
the Father is the direct Some names just needs favor
because I'm blessed, holy favored. My parents just want to
speak that onto my life.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And they did. You're here, which one of the names?
It really depends we.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Because I want to I want to know where Ernest
come from.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The Ernest.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So in our tradition me Ghana specifically with our con people,
you'll have each name has a specific meaning. Of course,
the first name, Jeremiah is more of a biblical name,
uh that roots from yetim Yao is the Hebrew term,
and it means that y'all will exalt or God will exalt,
lift up, to lift up. And then of course you
have Earnest, which is my great grandfather's name. You give
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somebody who you know is coming in just into the
world an ancestral name, and then you'll have y'ao is
you know, the name for my my crop. So it's
my sole name, right, So my sole name is basically
you know the name that the day that I was born.
I was born on a Thursday, and y'ao really is
like one who is like firm, more courageous, and then
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you have a hushu which is more of the paternal line,
and that's really means determination, et cetera, et cetera. So
it's a long breakdown, but that's that's where that's.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
The right rooted.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's the quote of the week right now, this substance.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
So how we get riding McCleod, we get righting with cloud.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm named after my father, you know. That's yeah, Yeah,
I don't know for third is gonna happen though, wife
shut that down. Yeah, that's another story.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
What do you think you know?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Third? Yeah, I don't know. You don't want you don't
want the tradition to continue to get them own stores? Yeah,
I think that's yeah, especially now that pressure man.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
The third that's gonna be tough to follow.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah. Third, it's great over there over there too much
chi chi chill shoes.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
But honestly, like you guys, the nand home Nigerian household, uh,
talk about the dynamic, the family dynamic, like there isn't
ours like growing up the parent and the culture, the
food and food like right, we want.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
To hear it all man like you know stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, I think, at least to start off with, I
think Obo grew up in more of a traditional home
than maybe I did. I grew up more in a
southern Floridian I grew up specifically with my mother. My
mother is not from Ghana. My mother is from Florida.
But I did have, you know, kind of like a
due growing up. I did spend a lot of time
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with my father here and there. But I think in
that Ganyani that you see really in me is is
a lot of you know, self evaluation, self study, along
with going back, you know, asking the elders, asking you know,
some of those who may know more about the culture,
some of my family members. That's already in Ghana, my
father taking me there, that's come from that. That's not
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necessarily my growing up. But for me, my household was
you know, a traditional uh you know, I would say Christian,
but it was it was more so like like a
very discipline and I grew up in the military household.
I don't know if anybody can relate, Yeah, yeah, so
it's very disciplined. Pentecostal Baptist. You know, dancing in the spirits,
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the type of household. You know, we didn't really have
no denomination. We was just really bouncing to church to church.
Whatever church had the most you know, family, the family vibes,
that's the one that we went to.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So that's.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Whichever one you know got out the latest, huh was definitely,
But really it seemed like we went to the one
that was the longest. Man, That's what I'm saying, Like
like his folks, they like, man, we in it, We
want to be in there for a while. Yeah, but
it goes to like this my mom, like you know,
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the scripture, and they say, like you raised the child
in the way he should go and he should not
depart from it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
She kind of took that very seriously. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
She used to break it down to me, like it's
twenty four hours in the day and people or they
raising their child, but it's really not because you need
eight hours. You go to school for eight hours, you
know what I'm saying, You got much left. Then you
got after school program that's four hours, right, And how
many people really two hours to eat? You know what
I'm saying, Yeah, you've got much time. They got two
(06:18):
hours a day, hour day. How many people sit down
with each oldren then, so you.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Know that's that's rank crazy right there.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Okay, look, I don't guy as as a decorator upbringing,
but I grew up in the traditional African household.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Parents were just super strict. Wanted me to make good grades,
come home early, just you know, do the right thing
and go to church. You know.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I was a skateboarder though, and they hated that. You
know why is that?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, skate culture isn't really like skate coature and
Nigerian culture.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
You know, it's like free spirit.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, I'm coming home like super late.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You know, I'm I'm my clothes all ripped up, you
know what I'm saying, got my vans, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They see all that, they see like holds for me
just wiping on the board. So they didn't like that.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
So when I actually started playing football, they they sort
of they only cared about education. So when I started
playing football, they were just like, oh, so you're skateboarding
and then football is like another distraction from school, you know.
So I had to hide it from them initially, so
then I guess until I got a scholarship.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I wasn't. I was just like, you know, put an
envelope down. Yeah you know what I'm saying. They were like,
what's your first game? You know? That's how I went
for me though a bunch of skateboard I still I'm
still double now, you know, that's just that's just who
(07:50):
I am. I remember.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I remember when we was in Gonea specifically Oh Bow,
you know, spent a lot of time at the skate
parks and I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Like, why keep going?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Like I just wanted them to know that like over
here like like you saw, I connected with them, they
saw skating like it was it was like we was here.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I still talk to him now, really, yeah what you do?
You did skate the skateboard? Like how did you?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I think I was just a big fan of like
for real, you know, skateboard p Yeah, you know like
Luke Fiasco, Yeah that tunes.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah. I was that typical. Yeah you know seven five,
come on, come on. I was like the only one
in my area skateboarding to I was like, what are
you doing? You was hooping everybody. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
like why are you doing that?
Speaker 6 (08:34):
So when did you start playing football?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I'll say.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Summer going to junior year and how did that come about?
One of my coaches was just like, so I had
a gross burd. I was like five seven when like
myself was stop that's what I was like five seven.
The summer went by, I came back to school. All
the coaches was like, so they kept trying to get
me to play, and I was like, re start. I
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didn't really vibe, but like, you know, like really just
with you know what I'm saying. I'm a skater, you know,
you know that little you know what I'm saying. So
I'm like, I'm not I'm not really trying to be
around like a bunch of jocks for real, you know.
Then I went and and everybody, no, look, I started
kicking it. Everybody was cool. It was a little family,
you know. So it was just like my skate family.
(09:21):
It was like my football football family. So everybody brought
me in. I sucked really bad though it was nothing
like it's funny, Like I started actually playing for real
because one of my friends got hurt. It was really good.
He got hurt and they just threw me in. They're
just like, you know, just hold it down, like until
he gets and I started going crazy. I started going crazy.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Imagine playing football that late.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I actually got a question for you going up in
the Nigeria home. I see you got tattoos. How did
the parents take the tattoos? I mean they hated it?
Yeah I don't. Yeah, I'm very long. When you get
when you get your first hat fourteen wow? Yeah yeah,
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they was hot, like ready to kick me out. You
think you think girl, everything what we stand for?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And I felt like I was. I was he was
doing that on purpose? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
At that time, I was just like yeah, yeah a
few times. I even mentioned it that too. I was smack,
wash my mouth.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You can't even mention it rings either. It was up. Yeah,
I came when I got the magnet. You have to
manage jump. When I got my ear rings, I was
I remember that whooping. I remember that one talking about it.
But yeah, it was one of the ones.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah we all we all have to do something I
got I did. I got my ear spirits without my
parents knowing what I'm literally, I go get my ear spirits.
I had one with my best friend. One of my
best friends growing up, had his mom give me to.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Get Okay, you know what I'm saying because obviously on
the age, so you gotta have a guardian signed off
so that happens. I'm hiding it. I told my dad
though he was cool. My dad and my MOMK, yeah,
separate hanks. So then I'm going out just around prom season.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's why I got it. I need to hear ring for.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm ready to go shopping for the fit. I kid
you not like I've been hiding it, like forever. I'm
in a passenger. See, my mom just happened to look
right before we hit the highway. She was like, what's
that in your ear? And I used to have this
like a little stick in there, just the hole, just
to hold the whole dog. She hit the U turn
so fast, did eighty back to the crib, got there
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like two minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It was Yeah, it was a wrap. It was a wrap.
I kept it though I still had it the problem.
Looking good was worth it. Yeah, it was worth Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's interesting how those experiences like make us kind of like,
you know, think about like like, even if you know,
we kept being rebellious, even if we kept you know,
doing the things we wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
At the end of the day, we kind of grew
more of a love for our parents.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, you know, after for sure, it's like I can
really understand why you, you know, wanted to implement what
you want to implement. You know, you can kind of
make that connection even even though you know you're still
yourselves wrong.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
For sure, I was rebellious.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I was not.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
My dad said no nothing, There.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Was no coach, nothing, and here and control of that
playing time.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
My won't necessarily too rebellious like I would do things,
but then I corrected out. I never made like a
mistake like twice the thing on the football field. We
appreciate that still, but I think, but again, that's what
I'm saying, like a lot of those lessons, you know,
the smaller lessons make up you know, the whole or
of the the art piece.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So I think, you know, even when uh, you know,
we talk about like the upbringing piece being a rebel
or doing something that's that's wrong, I feel like I
was obedient. I remember I called my mom the other
day and somebody was basically telling me I was a rebel.
I called him, like, tell him what I want to
you know, She's like, my baby was good. You know,
my baby was a good man growing up. So I
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think a lot of the times, like I may view
it as a rebel. I maybe view it as like
disrespectful sometimes, but then like really you ask your parents,
like I'm curious, like if you ask your parents, like
you know, how it was over growing up? It was
a good child, good child right at the end of
the day, you know what I mean, it'll just say.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Like I have my own mind. Yeah that's yeah. I
think it's important man, talk about that. What's the food?
What was the food?
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, you know we were talking a little bit before.
There's a lot of parallels and.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Like you know, we cross over a lot, but Nigerian
food is definitely different than Guani and food.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Is it better or different?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
I mean perspective, I think it's way better because I
went to gunning with him and I no, no, I
would say.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It was cool, but it was like.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
It was like this like like they will tell me like,
oh in Nigeria, this is like they'll try to compare
like before I ate it, you know, so I'm going
into it thinking, Okay, this is like when my mom
made this.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
When I'm eating it, I'm just like.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
But but I'll say this the July first it was
it was good, it was decent.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But what you let me let me tell you, let
me hear about See this, this is where it really
comes down to, right, you know, to say back. So
this is the principal of criticism right here, or the
principle of evaluation. Okay, right, So he grew up in
the Nigerian family, m hmm, with homemade Nigerian food. He
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comes to Ghana to evaluate. Let me see what the
Ghanian food looks like. And it's getting what restaurant food,
restaurant food. So you said you went local, but even
the locals know how to make mass foods. They got
to figure out something technique, something to do that they
can make the same food the same.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Tastes, right, food trucks, et cetera. Now you may be
a little biased.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Now you know.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Everything that we like that spicy, they like you sweet,
you know what I'm saying. And it was just different.
The Gan food is really hot and their food is really.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Like, yeah, we got some we got some spicy, some
spicy dishes. But I see what you're saying. I actually
don't really like spicy food. Yeah, like it was sweet,
that was different and some people making spicy. You know
it's you know, I think it's a multitude of different opinions.
You know, different uh ways to cook the food, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
What's your what's you what? How are you constructing your plate?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Like if if we had an opportunity and chef was like, look, Jay, okay, give.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Me your vegan. I'm talking about this. This is for us.
This for the people we want. We want some food.
We want something food. What you're telling what you tell me,
I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have okay, but for us,
I got you for us, But I'm forced them to vegan.
I'm not forcing them to go vegan. Your plate growing
(16:30):
let me go first. See this is what they want
to hear. They want to hear me say a bunch
of like chicken. They won't here.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
I would recommend that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
See me.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Look, if y'all came in the jail with me, go
we don't go to my crib. We I ain't gonna
take you to the restaurant, but my mom gonna make
you some food. Food with a goosey soup.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Yeah, y'all never heard of it. It's like real spicy.
You got some nice vegetables. You can get your choice
of protein chicken goat. Put it all in there, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, and on the side we're
gonna have like some Jely price. Yeah, probably put some
spicy chicken in there.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
All right. You know there's real dry up, so you
need some water. What he painted? He painted that picture like, okay,
got me curious.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
It's interesting because remember the example that I gave prior
to about the evaluation. First thing you do when you
go to Nigeria where you go come to his crew?
The first thing you do when you go to Ghanad
where you go? I tried to you, you take me
where you live? Well, my house is a little far.
You didn't try.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You didn't try.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, I tried, you know, NFL Africa and we had
to stay on like that Tenuary and it just wasn't
on the So let's get into an NFL Africa.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
That was a great That was one of the best
chicks of my life. How did that come about? What
was the experience? Like, how is it being in the
NFL and going back over there?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Ain't doing that cool? Are you doing that?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
That was a good Yeah, that was a good little yeah.
Sure shout start with that. Yeah, he wanted to know,
like because he said, all been pretty cool for many
all player. You know you'll play with each other, y'ahing
off the field.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So up, he said, Uh, so you have the opportunity,
you know, to come with NF Africa coming come up.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Okay, I needed it, that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Come told you.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
I had a couple of you know, conflict. It was
asnute you know, you last minute to So don't do that.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I know, I see that's what I don't need.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I need those.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I need the date now. I need it now because
I know you already talked to you in the locker room.
One of that. We wanted to ask you we could
we can invest He got the date. Wait, he just
told me. He told me.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Look, he said, we're going in a week. Were about
to go help out kids in Africa. I said, look,
and I cleared it in Africa, cleared it.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You had something playing. Yeah, okay, it's about the wife. Hey, look,
look I got a girl wife.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Different even Look, but.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I cut my London trip short and then ended up
going to Africa and find and doing the rest of
my trip. I made it work.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Got PJ Man.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He look, that was Africa. That was I'll be that
next year. Okay, So was what was the question NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Africa tell us about? You know what I'm saying, that journey,
that experience, the why behind it? Tell them what I
tell him a little about the trip. Well, I think
the why really stems from a place to build a bridge.
First and foremost. You know, we have a lot of
one hundred plus maybe one hundred and twenty plus in
the field, you know, stars and field athletes that are
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have their ground roots somewhere, originate somewhere on the the
land right, whether it's Liberia, you know, whether it's Nigeria, Ghana,
every coast, every coast right Cameroon. We have a lot
of uh, you know, athletes that are from Africa. So
I think NFL Africa making that transition to really focus
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more on developing uh, you know, youth that's in Africa. Well, well,
I think, first and foremost, build a bridge, and secondly
I think that well, I think my journey is a
little bit different in reference to the NFL Africa. You know,
I also had a you know, an aim in reference
to like education while I was there because I have
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a nonprofit called in Quah and I do also solo
trips to be able to ape a month before they went.
But specifically for NFL Africa, I think first and foremost
it was to build that bridge. And then in the
bridge in reference to the players here, the players there,
the youth here, the youth there. Uh you know, they
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started flag football as well there and we had we
actually had a team from Ghana come from uh yeah,
they've played in Vegas, so you see that tradition. Yeah,
we coached a few of the uh they had the
eagle stuff on, which is crazy, but you know it's cool. Uh.
(21:21):
But yeah, the main reason was to really build that
bridge to you know, being able to expand the diversity
in the NFL. Not only that, but you know, once
you know a lot of the youths get over here
and they may go to university, provide more opportunities for them.
You know what we call global global networking, right to
(21:42):
be able to go to a different country, uh, to
you know, gain education, to gain resources, and to be
able to help the community or the uh yeah, help
the community.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
In which you came.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So but that that's the reason why I think that
in the NFL Africa did that now, you know, go
a little bit deeper on the So we.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Had a camp. We ran like a combine. It was
about about one hundred people all over. Yeah, and then
camp was crazy, like those dudes are athletic. Yeah, I'm
talking like freak athletes. Like we had to meet Jeremiah
and Quiddy. We had to pick out of those one
hundred we picked five.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Wow, the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
So out of the five we picked, I think three
out of five recorded the sack already.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Wow, that's tough.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
In the preseason was like two years ago.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Yeah, no, that's tough.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Real life scouts. Yeah. And the other he's uh he
started left tackle for the Chiefs the preseason. Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
They doing really really really good athletes and and they
get like a year of development.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I think they go to there's I think there's a
training facility. I believe in London. I remember I went
right after.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, the training facility there and and it really just
them from the age groups is really mad as a lot.
You know, whether they're from sixteen to you know, eighteen,
they may have opportunity to train and go to a university. Yeah,
but if they're from like nineteen twenty twenty one to
like twenty three is they'll go to like a practice
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squad and it's really crazy, like dudes.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
That we met in the village like a year later
just watching them suit up in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
No, it's crazy crazy, they's super exced to see you. Yeah,
how did that combine constructed? Like is it the combin
that we know it to be.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
It's like here, very similar, like you know as far
you know resource is a little different, yeah, but very similar.
Just to come by that we went through, yeah, forty
times vertical. We didn't want on ones though. Okay, you know,
Joie k.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Got out there.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
This is I know you got rid of that.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Tried you for real, Yeah, I had out on them.
It was one of the better ones though. It was piano.
Yeah it Now.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think it really stems from just you know, a
lot of those guys they see opportunity, they want to
take it, and they value the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Sometimes we may have an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Uh here in the States, we look at it like
I may have nothing, you know, but for them, it's
like this this is right so uh and for them,
you know, you provide an alternative and they're gonna take
that alternative, and you know, I calls examined it all
the time, specifically with my nonprofit. Is like, you know,
it's easy to tell you know, young brother to get
off the streets or you know, tell them to you know,
(24:36):
stop selling drugs or whatever. What he was doing right
helping them, you know exactly if you're not giving them
an alternative, it means nothing. It's like, well, okay, if
I stop this, then what you So I think that's
really what the opportunity is. It's like, okay, well I'm
doing something here, but too if I miss a day
or two, you know what I'm saying, I got an
alternative here, and I see this as really my only alternative.
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So they go real art man, They real competitive, you know,
they talk trash. I mean some of them speaking you know, treat.
It was like a bunch of different like African countries,
that's the thing, ye speaking everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
We had a lot of translators there.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Funny is that all through NFL Africa.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
So I think they didn't want Kenya. This year.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
We had My year was Ghana. They had one in Kenya.
I think they're going to South Africa this year, going
to different different countries.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Yeah, some of the ones that are are everybody developed
to that one spot and do the combine and do
the combine.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
How's that selection process to gather OC does it with?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So Ghana was a little bit different because O see,
obviously I'm in Ghana. Oly kind of reached out to me, Hey,
you know, what are some of the players you think
that are? You know, so I had a camp before that,
so a lot of the players that I had in
my camp, I had one hundred and fifty. I was like, Okay,
I want this guy to come to that. Get this
out to me. I want this got to come to that. Yeah,
that's a good picks too. I have some good picks too.
(26:04):
But you know a lot of oh see minutes. He'd
been doing this for so long and he got these
guys coming from Nigeria. That's like six five.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
And I'm thinking about it because we all do camps
back at home during the off season and stuff like that,
especially like in the States or whatever, like people being
from Miami or like Rod being from you know, yeah, yeah,
supposedly good football, but you know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Come on, we don't respect on it.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I'm just saying, right, I'm just saying but over the
solid football, solid football.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We know.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
But oh you know, like what if we did that?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know, because we do youth camps like you know, yeah, kids,
little kids, you know, middle school no, no, not high school,
but find some kids. Find some nineteen twenty twenty one,
you know that could.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Still play because I know a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
But the difference store I think, like the wrong like
athletic ability did not just you know, I'm just being
he just out, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Just do look look, look look we pulled up.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
It was like five six five d ms running four fives,
Like like, you're just not gonna go to PG and
find that, right, You're not go to Miami. And now
I don't believe you just said no. It's like there's
a there's a difference. What's the difference. But this is
(27:22):
because I need to know, this is the difference. The
difference is. Okay, So I did a camp in Ghana.
I did a camp back in the States in my
hometown seven five. And this difference from from my point
of view, when I did the camp in Ghana, it
was more focus. It was more urgent urgency. Now now
(27:42):
now not even just now, but like you I'm trying
to I'm intentive. I'm listening saying at home, I do
the camp in Virginia. You know, similar urgency, right, but
because there's more distractions, because there's more things. They play
the game right and Ghana of like their daily lifestyle
is athleticism at the bucket of my head up and
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maybe doing something, you know, carrying this, carrying that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I may be a shepherd. You know, we got guys.
A lot of guys are traditional.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
We had some O which is like the hereditary healers,
so a lot of them are like doing a lot
of things with their body non stop, day to day,
day to day. It's the same thing you know in
the United States. But some guys may say, you know,
I'm trying to be a rapper. I mean, I'm trying.
You may have a lot of too, like.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
And look to ask that.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
It's like, because there's so many alternatives, you probably already
have got the opportunity. You're not going to find like
a six or five dude have never been approached to play,
you know.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
What I'm saying. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You see, you had the high school where the football is,
You had the high school where the basketball.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
These guys like they've never had any opportunity, Like they
were just diamond in the roof, like we found you know,
like that's the first time being like seen as they.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Got cherish.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
The opportunity and what you have to say too, And
this is what I don't I don't want to paint
a picture of the brothers that we're talking about, thinking
they're all in poverty. Like you got some royals that
are also you know, into the camps, some that are
already like well they already have a well technique, they've
been training. You had a few of those guys, right,
(29:23):
you can tell, yeah, and you can tell the ones
that have actually been training. You may have something that's
coming from you know, South Africa, something that's coming from
that area.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And the ones that played basketball, you could really.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yea basketball is pretty moving pretty well through Africa American stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
It's real good to see, man, Like you know, what
you guys are doing bringing exposure, you know what I'm saying,
and this sort of opportunities over to your countries.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
You know what I'm saying, These are your people. And
it goes a long way, and it says a lot
out each of you. You know what I'm saying and
who you are, and of course you know you you
going over there and being a part of the NFL Africa, Like.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Just what what what is it?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
What has it meant to you to be a part
of that for you know what I'm saying these past
two three years, uh, since you guys have been going
over there, I.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Mean, it's been really important to me just to be
able to make a difference. You know, we got we
got like Rod coming out now, you know, like I
know NFL Africa. At the birth of it, we didn't
they thought it was gonna be more just like players
from Africa, you know. So for like if you came,
that would be such a you know, it would just
show so much growth from where we started, you know,
just getting so much bigger. More people in Africa gonna
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get an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
So so I love its cool and I think it's
it's a stepping stone.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I think that once people are starting to see it more,
then guys will also go back and do more camps. Right,
maybe out one hundred players, right to do more camps,
but not only just camps, but to do something that's
more sustainable. Maybe take four or five, maybe ten guys
and develop a program for them to stay in touch
with them every month instead of like doing one camp
(31:12):
and it's leaving it done, or doing something more sustainable
in the community, such as maybe a water well or
seeing if we do some solar panels. However that may
look like in reference to the benefit of the area
that you're doing it in, you know, and so Africa
is great, right, But to find something that's going to
(31:33):
stick with the community and give to the community instead
of just you know, maybe hey, I'm evaluate this guy, come.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Over here, Like the community is something that is self
sustainable that they can have without us.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Have always come back exactly correct, right, and I think
it's still for education. So one of my aims is
to get a lot of the guys here, whether it's Cleveland,
Brown's NFL and have them contribute, because I want to
have an academy in Ghana, right, not only just any academy,
but a problem to solution academy, right, and something that
is stemmed from pure education, but for the education of
(32:08):
the benefit of the people that's involved, and not more like,
you know, just an education and just in the broad sense,
you know, you go to college, you don't figure out
what you want to major to, you know, not that,
but more so aimed too. Okay, hey you got this issue,
you know, you got you know, an environmental issue, you
may have a you know, gender based issue, whatever it
may may look like, and trying to solve those issues
(32:29):
instead of just kind of making it very you know,
broad or abstract.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So I think that's what I think that the NFL
Africa has done for the maybe the lift off or
the stepping stool for other guys to be conscientious and
be conscious of I think what's needed there.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, boy speaking man, no doubt you
can tell they passionate about it, yes, sir, Yeah, sir.
You know it's a little different looking at it as
a little hearing about it, and it's a little different,
you know, like we grow up and like you know,
you give back, you know, I get back in my community.
But it's like it's a little different. I wanted to
(33:08):
see it, Like I'm excited to go now because I
want to see it.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Like and you know, see like we also got like
you know, we did we did the camps, but we
got to like just like connect like with our ancestors
as well.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
We went to I don't know what the area is called.
It's called Cape Coast, known as the Gold Coast.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
During the slave it was like where like I guess
the biggest like slave trade, Like yeah, so I want
to speak wrong. Yeah, yeah, so it was one of
the major areas.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
The area was.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
In past times called Elmina. Elmina was known as a
very you know, broad and kind of one of the
first areas you know that the Portuguese went, you know,
to learn how to work the ships. We learned how
to work the trade routes and really show up, you know,
in mercy to a lot of African chiefs and leaders.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Contrary to what may be the you know, the narrative,
they kind of showed up like hey, like you know,
we want to learn from you at first. But then
you know, of course they established a huge castle. There
was a church underneath or above. The actual slave dungeons
were like the blood and you know, the change. So
we can talk about that, but it is a very
like high energy place because so many of the slaves
(34:23):
has passed.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Through that area. We got to visit like the actual
like yeah, yeah, so for me experience.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
And going to doing being a part of like NFL
Africa will be my first experience over in Africa. So
you know, there's something that has been near and there
on my heart trying to you know, get there. And
this is definitely give me a reason, you know what
I'm saying, the right reasons. I always wanted to go. Yeah,
And it was like like you always think of a
reason not to write up, like or why not I
(34:55):
would go somewhere else. But there's there's our roots, there's
our time.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It's important, like I think, especially like when more guys
are starting to come, you know, came and you know
we're coming like more of a you know, a more
vibrant place to be. But I tell people all the
time when they go to the land, do something cultural first,
Do something traditionally rich first, instead of maybe going to
the capital city, so you know, go in the middle
(35:23):
of the country, usually towards the middle of the country,
maybe northern of the countries where a lot of the
tradition realized. Of course the coast as well. Uh, but
get away from the tourism a little bit, you know,
I want to immerse mysel commercial.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Environment. Don't stay with him, go with him Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Well, you know, so I definitely know who I'm gonna
go with for sure. Make sure dropped the right names.
You know what I'm saying. I can't wait, man, yeahs
doing this all right, let's stand on the screen.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Oh yeah, I gotta talk about gotta talk about it,
gotta talk about it.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Yeah, which were y'all favorite?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I ain't going that that person right there?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Total that might that might be the best one.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I said.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I gotta move out the way with no doubt that
I'm not gonna You came with something that, Yeah, you
felt away general, you felt the way you can tell
about it about the face structure, different, different energy different,
but it's a.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Different energy that come with each one though correct.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Of course the K is more traditional more you see
the phase, Yeah, through the phase I was on, just
to connect the modern, you know. Yeah, I don't want
to get too far you know, ancient like the colors
and that one too. Yeah, the prince, the prince is
that's Senegalese. Actually that's not gone yet. That's the gale
did you wear the one that they made us? And
(36:58):
gun we were out there, that's the one right there
on the right, the right. We won the right one
is the Ghana, the middle one when we went is
the Senegaluese, and then the left one of course was
all business is uh you know, I call it my
asiatic fit.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I might got to go week one.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
This year.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I like that. I like the accessories he had on.
My dog had to go. He had a little dance
with it on the way. Yeah yeah, he was stepping.
I like, I'm, of course go with the first one. Uh,
but I like that.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I like the third one because the more the crown,
the crown, the crown, the some star is definitely we've
seen the risks to.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Yeah, so this has been something that you obviously thought
about it and infant you're putting the emphasis on this year.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like what, I be honest with you, I like I
never really sat down. I was like, yo, about to
you know, wear a bunch of like you know, garments
or whatever. It's just like, like, you know, it wasn't
more like it was more like on the fly. It
was like one, I'm aware this week right now, this.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
On the fly. On the fly is just in the close.
It's one of these not every day I'm telling you
the fly. I wasn't like I'm about to play this out.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
This is actually from a brand, and I'm about to
come out with I won't supposed to say that, but
you know I'm gonnat.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's one of my left Come on, this is dropping.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
This is one of my lefts. It's a brand. I'm
coming out. We're called a Brible and brable is like
a mission. It's missioning.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
So you'll see you see, I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Who you're not gonna see that that that symbol nowhere
that that's that's custom made on camera for me.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
But you already you got the trademarks and everything. I
got the tradek you. That's why.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Somebody Yeah you know, I got a guy guyed to
make the outfit for me. I need that a different
that might we might have to get that for the
for the you know what I'm saying, we stepping red
carbon and that what was it called? Well that's not
called I brob the your brain. The brand is called
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a broblem B.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, I like that. Can we get some photos of this?
You you know, we know how we seen them.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
So what's that you're not trying You're not trying to
wrap you know what one? So I mean I just
haven't you with Okay, he got three three three right now,
right like three. You needed to just send me, you know,
sending got some, I got some for I got some.
You know, I need you to sport first week. But
(39:57):
not many people can't. Not many people can do that,
you know what I'm saying. Not many people are willing
to step out, like to step out and be confident,
and they and the heritage like their culture like it's culture.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Is I got you, I got you. The culture is
on the NFL th that's that's like iwer like that's powerful.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Like nobody like family gatherings. This is what we're wearing.
We go to church.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
This let's talk.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
It's like I know that. I know the DM is
going crazy. You put it every week, you put it
on MS looking crazy. You put it on right now?
You the one? What's the one? Uh? Got a couple?
Speaker 6 (40:47):
We got a couple of questions from the fans that
we want to ask you. They got a couple, you
know some no.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
More on the spot.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
I start off with the first one.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
If you guys had to pick one guy from the
team to be your body guy, who would it be?
This is from Ryan Underscore Fraser.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Like nobody, you know, nobody gonna try him like this
is like six, like three ninety.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Then all the time you want to sing, he's singing.
It might be That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Go ahead, think somebody. I probably you know what, oh why?
I probably go with Matt Man I'm tripping and.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Adam just because jump the cable always marked up. But
I feel like your body guy gotta know time and place.
Your body guy got to know like when not to
be like super aggressive and like I feel like that
kind of controls timper now a little, a little good.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I know he got some some past because of his PASTUF.
I think he like tried if you.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
So I go with Adams Joe all right, I like
I like that the LB LB bro all right. So
next one, we got what is your favorite show to being?
And this is from Hey Underscore Lisa Marie.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Lisa Marie. Yeah, what's your favorite show right now? Netflix? Mom?
Speaker 5 (42:28):
Where you where you at? What I'm doing too right now?
Jumping back and forth between top Boy and suits.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh yeah, top Boy, Top Boy. That's the one that's when.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
When I just like don't want to really follow the storyline,
I'm watching them on my phone.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeahs Cools nine seasons, Top Boy three seasons.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, wow, TV, What you got.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
TV?
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I'm trying to find somebody used to watch you know,
you don't watch TV. So everybody like I saw that
five years ago? Do that possible time? What you got?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I like to It was two shows that was similar shows,
Game of Thrones, right, the Vikings, the Vikings, Yeah, slept
on both both of them joints.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I watched both of them joints in like a couple
of weeks. I can see that. I can see that
what Vikings like Like, so it got a lot of tradition. Yeah,
it's not like they're talking about on the internet right now.
It's like kingdom like all of that.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, you know, yeah, it's just a tradition to where
like you'll see like you know, women and men kind
of like in their essence, yeah, protectors and you know
you just got a lot of tradition and a lot
of principles like tradition.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, that's why I can see yeah royalty all queen.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Yeah, that's that's it. With the sister, like you know,
there you go, like here you go, you see you
trying to throw it out, you know, exposed to that.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Do that we double up another one on that. Yeah,
we got.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
All right, So this next one we got what would
you do if you weren't a football player? And this
is from Lou talk about that, man, you weren't a
I mean, you weren't a ball player. Don't say basketball,
I mean I mean for me, like I feel like
I'm doing everything I want to do now, you know,
I do photography, I do some styling.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, you know. Yeah, everything I want to do, I'm
doing it. So tell them boys, man, when when you
hang them up like stylist, you already you already tapped in.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
He's going on.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
You actually actually got a gallery on the fifth in
New York.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
We're going, We're going, We're going.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
I'm saying, I'm saying stylish, stylish. If you're looking for
a stylish hanging up, looking for a stylish stylist, you
can but taking them photos though, yeah, yeh yeah, I
know I'll be seeing you.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
You said, when you're done playing, you out of here,
you mean moving, I'm moving to London, London.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, I can see it.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
That's that's what fashion, that's what the fashion.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
But that's what NFL International Headquarters are. Yeah, photography, man
took off. Yeah, yeah, photography got a guy. Yeah, yeah,
I really just I want to show people my unique perspectives.
We don't know one. I just want to show me.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
Yeah, okay, mister basketball, Yeah no, no, that's outside of that.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I've seen you.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
You got the answers show, show show the people, the
kids beat up ones man.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, shout out seven five. It's a good rebound fit.
Shut out. Shout that out here. I said that. That's
when we was in high school. College's still the same time.
See for a little smaller about the suit for team
let's super new, try trying. You don't know, he me
(45:56):
at the end, Why you don't know that?
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I'll be a diplomat though, I think I want to
like be, you know, like in charge of my home.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Like I want to be like he's making like like
somebody that travels the country the country, represent your country.
Yeah yeah, I think that's hard. Like I think the
most valuable job in the world is problem solving. Okay,
Like I don't think it's a more valuable job than
being a problem solving. Everybody got problems. Everybody got issues.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I never know. You can identify, but if you're not
to solve them, I never know. What's surprise every he
got he got a gym?
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Oh yeah, come on, come on some drake. Give him
the drake was working on. It didn't make me. Don't
give it too much doing that.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
I already know you sink.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Don worry about it. Jeremih he can't sing no no,
I ben love my wife.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
The other day, I said, you know, jailk can see
first I thought you were just you know, playing around.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
He no, not to day I said, yeah, look I
want said I walked to the locker. Yeah, cut different.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
I'm gonna sign him for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
You gotta style me one time.
Speaker 6 (47:26):
You you know you're not gonna work nothing over, tell
you I'm gonna sen.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
My style.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Think about being a good stylist to make people do
what you want correct and that they can just come
up with.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
Like a.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Let me do one thing for you.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Let's not let them get away from the question though.
If you won't playing football over y'all be that's for y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
We just we're gonna get this before we leave though,
because I'm actually interested in this question. It's gonna help
me understand my brother more.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
Okay, like we already had his coaches.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I can appreciate that it's all gonna be a coach.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
That's a good that's a good alternative. But I think
he's gonna coach because he really understand the game. So
I feel like he's gonna spread the knowledge.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
You know, I've been around the game alone a long time,
so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Gem. I can just see you doing something like football,
like with your mind, you know, legend there would you.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
You know, we know you got some gyms.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Come on, I ain't got nothing for y'all. Know cool
your brother with he got something on. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Man, thought I was fitting for the for the topic today,
and the guys we had on set appreciate for me.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Shoot, uh, you know, I think I look good.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I think I'll find myself on TV somewhere talking about
the game.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Enjoy that. Do a lot of.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
Community work, so nonprofit space to uh, that's like I
found my my purpose, my purpose.
Speaker 6 (49:04):
Yeah, no doubt for sure.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
But yeah, you know that's just a couple. It was
on the NFL network at the beginning of the year, right.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
Knowledge was, Yeah, I was up there dropping game by
one was you didn't put him in your tough safety.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Day. That's my god. Oh come on, man, goals we
all day the one you got a chance to redeem
yourself to say. Yeah, come on, man, come on, come
on Brown's uniform. That's it. You can say that I
had just signed. I was giving Brown's big loved. I
(49:49):
was what I was spending on every time was hold
it down. That boy body over there talking, Come on, man,
I gotta let him know he's biased. He was earlier.
Now he can't he can't tell. He can't togs. He
was like, yeah, I see it, I see it now,
I see it now, right, I see it.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
We still got along with now we gotta keep making
them a believer. Feel yea doing something right now.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
It's talking about your traditions at home traditional Nigerian And
you know, what's your favorite tradition.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Tradition or just like my family tradition yours.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
M hmm.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
What's your favorite that your family does that you you know,
I tell you right now. Mine was Christmas, all my
family getting together. That was like the only time we
were all able to get together. So that was pretty
dope for me.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Yeah, I'll say, uh, sometimes my dad would just like
have us all come downstairs. My dad like he loved music,
so he'll like get one of his old tapes and
some like some funky groovy like disco music, and my
mom would just be dancing and we would just be chilling,
just listen to like, oh, like groovy like this music
we used to just kicking just like that's like growing up.
(51:04):
As long as I can remember, I can remember, like
just me like being in the living room. My parents
just get get him down.
Speaker 6 (51:10):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
That's tough.
Speaker 6 (51:12):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
You know, my mom may be a little outsider. I think.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
One of my favorite traditions is like our funeral rights.
Actually I knew he was going to like.
Speaker 6 (51:23):
Like somewhere, but let's take you and bring you back.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
That's why I say that though, like the f I
don't feel like we we honored dead enough those transition enough,
Like our funeral rights is like maybe some days, like
it's a certain colors, a certain energy tradition, my favorite
tradition because like you get to see like the true honoring,
(51:50):
depending on of course you know who the being is,
the true honoring and.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Like the transition from like life to life that's necessary life.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
That yeah, different perspect on that life to life, life
to life as in like like time in our sense
is circular like it's lenear to but they go like it. Yeah,
so like life to life is like you have one
realm which is already we in and in the realm
of those who have right, and that's also another life right,
(52:24):
and their life can be another life. Of course why
you name uh, you know, a newborn after somebody who's
so it's almost like life to life, right, So that's
my simple tradition.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I like it. Yeah, he said Christmas.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
Yeah, you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
I didn't know if that's good. It's crazy, makes sense.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
You always bring it back, Take you there, bring you back,
all right.
Speaker 6 (52:50):
We appreciate y'all coming on.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
We want to thank the Cleveland Browns Organization for giving
us this platform. It Taylor Young, Taylor Young, Taylor Young.
You know why why giving us our platform now? You know,
just you know, connect with our brothers, you know on
off the field.
Speaker 6 (53:06):
You know, it's huge.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
You know, we get to know y'all personally, the fans
get to know us. And I always appreciate.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
Roll and thank y'all for just coming up here doing
this as players. It's really big, you know, y'all doing
this before y'all done playing.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
I can see y'all doing this out. Y'all done so
yeah yeah, video producer learn something a lot.
Speaker 6 (53:28):
Yeah, we gotta go on that your We are next,
ye know what they say?
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
All the five.
Speaker 7 (53:44):
Walkta Payton was a warrior running with bees. You rulies
couldn't hope to wait up in one of this cla
as a creek through the zone. I am known as
a monster, the new Larry Soball and Hall going boxes.
Somebody needs them to try to stop Barry Sanders and
Shunks in the game. You just the salad man, never
had the boundary running through your town. Keep your head
up and rush.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
We look like Jim Brown.
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