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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's already been an incredible season. The Kansas City Chiefs
have had so many close games. Replacement kickers. They played
on every day of the week, but Tuesday they played
the toughest schedule. They fought to get to buy they
get an incredible victory in the AFC Championship Game. But
now a chance to make history. You can't make this up,
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and you can't make up what Ticketmaster does this time
you hear especially, Ticketmaster can become your best friend. But
even as I read during the game on Sunday, reading
the Ticketmaster ad all year long, they become a resource
for you because so many great events happened at GJA Field,
at Arrowhead Stadium and throughout the Chiefs Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Git some a JP run at the thirty first I
love you some.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
JP run howeveryone, I'm a childest voice of the Chiefs
joined here by with a senior team reporter, Matt McMullen.
The theming of this defending the Kingdom will be you
can't make this up. I don't know what your favorite
mini series are, Matt. What of the as you would
binge on right now? If you had a choice, You're Gonnat.
You can binge right now what would it be.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well, so, Ellie and I have been watching Severance lately,
but it's kind of a have you watched that?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I have?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, it's like a dark and very weird and sad
doesn't really apply to this football team.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I think what you're alluding to is a better analogy.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well, Ted Lasso, Yeah, so creative in the writing. Yeah,
But then there's others like the trilogy. I'm really enamored
with eighteen eighty three nineteen twenty three Yellowstone. I was
all one by one by one. I know, I'd have
to be in some place in Montana just getting food,
well ironically getting food and water. But there have been others, right,
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mad Men was incredible, I thought back way back when,
and then, oh gosh, some of the others. Held on
Wheels is really underrated. We know now land Man has
become a big deal with Billy, Bob Thornton and others.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So, and Jerry Jones was a pretty good actor in that.
Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, I'll just leave that at that. It's very good.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I felt like he was didn't even have to act
like it was this real life. Yeah, it was not
better than your role in the Hallmark movie, though it
was not you were awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, hey, as you're saying that today filming this on Tuesday,
your role as a speaking security guard kicking out David
Keckner posted today just a few hours ago. I'm like
your support man, I'm pulling away Keckner. But you had
a line and that came out today, so I mean,
I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It was yours. It was not like yours. It was
a few agree you get it? You know? Uh heck yes,
I ordered the cord read it was that. That was impactful. Hey, Trey,
come on over anyway. It's a but this this depending
the Kingdom is going to deal with. You can't make
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this up. Honestly, Ted Lasso's script writers could not write
the script this season, Matt super Bowl fifty nine. The
fact that we're going to have this game against the
Philadelphia Eagles, and uh, there's just we're going to jump
into this. What your four favorite story lines me on
the obviously are and I'll give you mine as well.
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But first as is a defending the Kingdom custom. Whether
we're on a zoom or we're in studio, we go
around the world. Let's jump in your spacecraft.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, let's do it. And for those wondering why are
you guys on zoom right now? Well, the week before
we go to New Orleans is just crazy. What's funny
is that we like kind of know the drill now
because we've been to all these Super Bowls. Who would
have thought, but the studio is just jam packed with
players doing super Bowl stuff. They have to like bring
in a whole new backdrop. The studio is occupied today,
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so we're doing a virtual DTK. I'm on the third floor,
Mitch is on the first floor. We're in the same
building doing a zoom DTK. So if you're wondering why
we're doing that, that's why.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Before we get into that, you bring up an excellent point.
We kind of touched on this last year and my
Minute with Minis series that I do and ready on
television throughout the Kingdom. I get into this even more
this week. I always wondered that, well, what's two weeks
before Super Bowl? It seems like an overkill, Like it's just
it's more promo than anything else. Honestly, you could use
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another week. Yeah, and Tamison, you and I have talked
about this. You can't win the super Bowl this week.
But you can lose the super Bowl this week because
it's if you're not organized to deal with all of
the chaos before the chaotic chaos when you hit the
super Bowl site, you can get swept away and lose
that game. And we've seen it happen throughout history.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Kochrie talked about it a few days ago that the
game plan is almost entirely put in this week, so
when you get to New Orleans, it's about mastering it
and refining it because there's so many other things going on.
There's all the media responsibilities. The media night on Monday
is crazy, and then you basically have to speak to
reporters every single day. There's so much going on, so
many potential distractions, And that's kind of where like our
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culture and our infrastructure is so important and it kind
of helps this team achieve what it's achieved over the
years and hopefully we'll achieve again because you eliminate all
of that, like you do your obligations, you do all
that whatever, but you're there to win a game. And
I think sometimes the super Bowl has become such a
big event that people forget that at the end of
the day, it's about winning a football game. And we
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know this just like anyone else that works here, that
everything is so scheduled and regimented and it's all about routine,
like every single week is the same, and you kind
of have to find a way in a very not
normal situation like a super Bowl to create a semblance
of a routine and of normalcy. And coach reads so
good about that, and that's where hopefully this experience will
help us next week. But yeah, this week is all
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about on the football side, treating it normally, getting ready for,
you know, a big trip to the super Bowl. But
from a business staff perspective, things are a little bit weird.
In the studio is in use today.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Well and again, and taking care of your family and
their requests. I mean this, it's difficult. You've got a
lot of family that you can't accommodate, and nor can
I Not everybody is part of this, and so the
players deal with that and the coaches deal with that. Well.
I know people that didn't make the cut over the
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last couple of years that don't like me anymore, right,
So it's just there's a lot of tension this week
that you wouldn't think would be there, and so you're right,
our infrastructure and culture is set up to try to
mitigate that as much as possible, because when you land
there and it's like the Olympic Games, because there's this
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bombardment of international media that comes in and so you're
answering that, you're asking questions, are answering questions over and
over and over. But it's just you know, one of coaches,
one of his four mantras is four pillars has eliminated distractions.
This game is nothing but a distraction, and the NFL
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will create some of those distractions, quite honestly. So this
is tricky, and this week is tricky. But what hasn't
been tricky is when sometimes fact is greater than fiction.
And the Kansas City Chiefs this year have been exactly that.
Ted Leastro's writers are blushing. I said that on the play,
like ply can't make this stuff up. And the storylines
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and subplots to this game are a decade's worth. Really,
any one of these could be the big point or
thought of a game. But man, there's so many for
this Super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, this is one of those stories that if this
was like in a movie, it wouldn't be realistic. Like
we always make fun of the movie Draft Day because
it's just so unbelievably unrealistic. If there is a movie
this is all fictional about the Chiefs run to a
third straight super Bowl and everything that's happened, all the
different ways that we've won games this year, I'd be like,
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that's not very realistic. But when you live it and
it's real life, you just can't believe it. I Mean,
we're kind of rambling now.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Replacement kicker dwink in a field goal to win the division.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You're going, oh, come on, yeah, exactly right, a block
field goal to win a game against a division rival.
I mean, there's just so many examples, and it's just
so cool that this team has found a way to
get back to this point. And one thing that I
keep thinking about over the last couple days since we
beat Buffalo is that we talked all year about the
opportunity in front of this team, and we talked about
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it on last week's episode, Like, Hey, we've talked all
for months and months and months now about the opportunity
and how this team could attack this and how they
can hopefully make history. But now we're actually there, you know,
and there's so many potential pitfalls, so many things that
could have happened, like injuries or circumstances are getting everyone's
best shot where it just doesn't work out. The fact
that the Chiefs are in this moment like we're going
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to New Orleans for a chance to win the super
Bowl for a third straight year, something that's never happened before.
Really take a second to think about that, Like this
team had a mandate and a challenge, like my homes
on stage saying like, hey, no one's ever got three
like I want three. Yeah, we all do, but it's
hard to get there. And the Chiefs went fifteen in two,
They won the Division, they beat the Texans, they beat
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the Bills, and we're going to the super Bowl for
a chance to make it three in a row. I
still feel like it's yesterday that I saw Mnicole catching
that ball in the end zone to win the second
in a row, and now we're back.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's one of those things I keep waiting to wake
up because this does not happen to teams and to
fan bases.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But we're living in absolutely and this is like coming
up on episode twenty and you what ali watching Severance
and like now it's at the Apex right now and
you're just staring, like what's now And that's where we're
at with this. But absolutely, and we'll jump into these storylines.
But what we're living now is incredible. If the Chiefs
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pull this off, well, I'll get into this probably more
next week when we're in New Orleans. It just has
a seventy two Dolphins feeling to it. I'm not sure
this will happen again. And you're saying, well, you just
did it. Well, we're gonna have an eighteenth game soon,
and that eighteenth game will be against another division champion
that's a one from the previous year. If you're the champion.
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It's not the party distant future that we will all
play international games. The season will be longer. These streaming services,
you're going to be playing every day of the week.
This team's just handled all of it, and it's going
to get harder to handle all of it in the
days and years ahead. So this could truly be a
seventy two Dolphins moment if the Chiefs can win Super
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Bowl fifty nine. But I'm holding you up. Let's get
space stations.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
One more thought that I'll jump in. I'm sorry, we're
just rambling today because you know, we're excited. We've gotten
like no sleep and hey, the cheer that.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
We're going to do a whole nother podcast called because
We're Not a rabbit Hole.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Now, just well, have you heard from any of the
Packer fans that are trying to say that the Packers
won three straight championships because they won the last like
NFL Championship and then Super Bowl one and two. It's like, okay, listen,
I acknowledge and respect the championships, but it is so
much harder to win a championship in two thousand and
twenty four then it was in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I'm sorry, it's just the reality of it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Man. They played fourteen regular season games and one playoff game.
There weren't wild cards. The America or the Western Conference
champion played the National conference champion. And you know, it's
the same thing with the seventy two Dolphins. Now, they
won fourteen games when undefeated and they won three playoff games.
I got it, But that's just if you go seventeen
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and zero. Now, that's just the regular season. Yeah, you're
sitting on the barela three more games, you got to
try to go undefeated against some of the best teams
in the league. So yes, the Packer fans have weighed in,
but it's not the same. And so if give those guys,
they would have to win what two more playoff games
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just to get to the point to get to the
NFL Championship game and then play a Super Bowl. And
so yeah, I'm I respect you, like you, not the same,
not to apples. Apples are close.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, all right, about twenty minutes later, let's jump into
around the world. So a lot of submissions today for
the sake of time, and because we're going to have
a couple episodes in New Orleans will kind of spread
this out, So just a handful today. So I heard
from Peter in Londonderry, Northern Ireland. Okay, now some people
would just call it dairy, some people would call it Londonderry.
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Depends your political affiliations over there in Ireland and Northern Ireland.
But he is from Londonderry. He plays American football for
the Northwest Vipers. He's the quarterback and where is number fifteen?
For obvious reasons, He's also the club's new women's flag
football head coach. So pretty cool. As you know. I
went to Northern Ireland a couple of years ago. I
spent some time in Belfast. Didn't make it to Londonderry,
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but just a beautiful, amazing place, and I cannot wait
to go back. So shout out to you.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Peter.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Janet is from Goshen, Kentucky, just outside Louisville.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Not but that's okay. I know it's in Indiana, so
let's go with.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Gosh, Goshen, Goshen more fun. I think it's my natural
instinct to always have the incorrect pronunciation. It's incredible I
should start going against my instincts when it comes to
this Goshen, Kentucky or some call it Goshen, but they're
originally from Chillacothee, nearby home.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Of the There We Go, There we Go Fall.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So Janet is representing the kingdom in the middle of Lamar,
Jackson and Bengal Territory. Not a lot of chiefs love
over there in Louisville, but she is representing us.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
They also learned that one of their friends that recently
figured this out. One of their friends was neighbors with
you growing up and they wanted to say hello from
the Lovell family.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You know the levels.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, okay, the Lovell girls. Their dad, I think, played
football at Texas A and M. He was a coach
and came back he raised cattle, did a great job there.
And yes they were neighbors. But you got to understand
their farm from US would have been one twelve thirteen
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miles away. So their neighbors thirteen miles away. But we
all wrote the school bust together. Wow. Yeah, their farm
and ranch was right almost right on the Kansas Nebraska border.
But great, great.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Family thirteen miles away in their neighbors. That small town
living right there, it's.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The next door neighbors thirteen miles away. It's like Yellowston, right,
So throwing another series.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Here, Yeah, there you go. So we have a listener
from Mount Vernon, Indiana. I've been a fan since nineteen
eighty seven. Her husband is a veteran and was stationed
somewhere around Kansas City. I'm not sure exactly where, maybe Levenworth,
but when they were stationed here, she became a Chiefe
fan and has been a fan ever since.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So shout out to you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
PJ and Gina are in Oklahoma City, but originally from Lacrosse, Kansas, home.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Of the Leopards.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, but they have the Jaguars logo, right.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You have the Jaguars logo. Often wondered like, well, we
don't know that you needed to do coach going do all.
That's kind of creepy. But yeah, they could put Duvall
up on the lacrosse locker room.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
What county is lacrosse in Rush County?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I believe, so they can like Rush ruh, Yeah, they
should do the barbed Wire Capital of the World.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Actually, barbed Wire Capital of the World.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Barbed Wire Capital of the World. You know the book Boys,
which was the New York Times bestseller written about Smith Center. Yeah,
when the run with the nation's longest winning streak, one
of the key games was against Lacrosse. Lacrosse had a
running back that was recruited to play at Oklahoma, and
one of the key pieces in that book we're talking
about mini series here was Smith Center against Lacrosse with
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that great running back.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Interesting, okay, well, uh, it's funny you bring that up
because they mentioned that they had five boys all played
football and they remember some long drives to go play
Smith Center. So there we go. Linda was listening from Cincinnati.
Love Choose fans in Cincinnati please represent.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Hang on there.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Randy is listening from Omaha. They were at the game
on Sunday. We've got another janet from Jasper, Missouri, home
of the.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Oh Gosh, I should know. And I'm we're gonna get
these south southwest Missouri towns that's near je of Hopplin too.
Probably Tigers. That's the easy one to go with, but.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
It's not well, it is one of the kind of
generic ones. Don't love it.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
This week it's the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, I'm sorry, come up with something better. I don't
know who came up.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I mean, yeah, not a lot of eagles flying around Jasper, Missouri.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Now, but the bald flying around my house. I'll tell
you that right now. Yeah, it's like it's found its home.
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Not not this week, though generally yes, not this week.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Terry is representing the Kingdom down Under in Queensland, Australia.
Got to make it to Australia. Tamara is in Oklahoma.
Logan is in Austin, Texas. He's a coach at West
Lake High School and loves to travel the country and
his custom Chiefs painted car cool.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Austin Westlake is big time. Yeah, look at all well
players they've pumped out.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So is that where Chase Daniel went?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I think so yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Just a machine. Then lastly we have David from Cork, Ireland.
I've been a fans in twenty twelve. This is kind
of funny. So him and his friends back in twenty
twelve used they're playing Madden and basically they did like
a random team generator and they all decided whoever they
were assigned would be their team for life, and they
just follow it. It's like if you and I were
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doing like, you know, European League of Professional Football or
something like, oh I love the Studie gart Surge. Well
he got the Chiefs. Keep in mind it was in
twenty twelve. Okay, not the easiest year to follow the Chiefs,
but it's stuck with us ever since and now David
is reaping the benefits. So shout out to you, David.
That's all I got today.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well done, David, Well done, because now your team that
you got randomly selected for has a chance to make
history and to get these opportunity went back to back
to back Super Bowls We'll start there, Matt, because I
think you and I will both claim this plot as
the main one as we know, and as I said,
it's got a seventy two Dolphins feel to it. But
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here we are going to a neo or lunch to
play the Eagles, or a chance to do something that's
never been done, which we'll set the twenty twenty four
Chiefs if they do this by themselves in NFL.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
History, yeah, and we're living it to think that the
Chiefs already have made history by winning against the Bills
to make it back to the Super Bowl. Nine teams
have won back to back Super Bowls. The Chiefs are
the first ever to have a chance to win three
in a row. None of those previous eight teams made
it to this point, and only three teams in NFL history,
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I think have or four teams now including the Chiefs,
have made it to three straight Super Bowls. And of
course those other iterations had not won back to back
before the third, so it's truly incredible. And how about
Patrick Mahomes. So Patrick Mahomes is one of my storylines here.
He's now seventeen and three as a starting quarterback in
the postseason passing Joe Montana for sole possession of the
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second most in NFL history. Only Tom Brady with thirty five,
owns more. But Patrick's coming, I mean, seventeen postseason wins
in seven years as a starter is just ridiculous. Against
the Bills, he led his sixth career fourth quarter postseason
comeback that also passed Montana for the second most all time.
Only Brady with nine has more. Mahomes is also now
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twenty seven and twenty six in his career in games
in the regular and postseason that he trailed in the
fourth quarter. So I'm gonna say that one more time.
When the Chiefs have trailed in the fourth quarter under
Patrick Mahomes, they're twenty seven and twenty six. He has
a winning record in the fourth quarter when he's a
trailingue in his career. That's easily the best winning percentage
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of any quarterback in NFL history. He's the only one
above five hundred. The next closest is Darryl Lamonica at
a three eighty six winning percentage.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Auto Graham, well.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Look at those others, because I love this stat. Brady
is on the stat that's that's stunning. Or we're paid
on this stat.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, so Brady is three seventy two winning percentage, Montana
is three eighty four. Mahomes is above five hundred. He
has a winning record when the Chiefs are losing in
the fourth quarter. I mean, it's just crazy. And it's
because the games were always close, so he always has
an opportunity to go down and win it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But it's just it's nuts.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Hopefully we're winning the entire Super Bowl and don't need
another fourth quarter comeback, but he is the best of
all time at doing that. And lastly, I could go
for like three hours and all these Mahome stats, but
this is one of my favorite fits the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I don't want to fire them up, but his comeback
trailing by what ten or more at halftime? It's two
and twenty seven. The other one was in Super bowls
if you're trailing by ten or more halftime the teams
from two and twenty seven Super Bowl fifth of seven
was one of those against the Eagles. The other one
was a great comeback by Brady against Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean just incredible and trailed by ten points and
all three of the Super Bowl wins the problem came back.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
He's about to start his fifth Super Bowl. Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
The only other quarterbacks in NFL history to start five
Super Bowls Tom Brady obviously he started ten, and John
Elway started five. But here's what's cool about it. So
Brady was thirty four when he started his fifth Super Bowl.
I think people kind of forget there was a long
gap for Brady. He won the first three and then
there was a long gap before he won again.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Eleven season gap. Man, that's eleven seasons four to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
He really had two great stages of his career, right,
and we look back on it like it all kind
of happened boom boom boom, But there was a long gap.
He was thirty four when he started his fifth Super Bowl.
Elway was thirty eight when he started super Bowl number five.
Mahomes is twenty nine. Okay, Mahomes has been a starter
for seven years and he's starting his fifth super Bowl
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before he turns thirty. We have never seen something like
this in NFL history. It's never happened before, not even Brady.
And that's the point I'm trying to make that no
player has ever ripped off this kind of immediate success
in the history of the NFL, and we're living.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
In so amazing. So I'm counting on my fingers. Nine
years he went without winning a Super Bowl, and he
had the one undefeated season that's bags beat him, but
still almost a decade where he went without a Super
Bowl victory, when he had the three Big Gap three
with the Patriots and then beating us in Super Bowl
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fifty five. One of my four because we were saying
we're going to pick four each year of our storylines
that when Ted Lesser's writers would be cranking it out
would be also involving pat The fact that he now
has two hundred and eighty eight consecutive passing attempts without
an interception. That is the longest of any streak of
a quarterback entering a Super Bowl. And if you go
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back and look, this is right, he said the D
D hop demarcation line he started out pat did this
year with six TD passes and eight interceptions. That's where
I think the narrative started. But that that's where the
narrative like, they don't look at what's happened. And even
when since Teahawk came in, the fact that he now
it's twenty one touchdowns and only three picks, but the
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fact that he has already set history and since Week eleven,
that last kind of desperate interception against the Bills in Buffalo,
he hasn't thrown one since that's the longest streak going
into any Super Bowl by any quarterback without a pick.
So I've got a Patrick once too, So I'll take
the next one and it'll be And this is the
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most obvious one of all of them, but it does
a little more dive into this because it's Andy versus
the Eagles. You can't make this up. Ted Lastra's writers
could not have written this where Andy the only coach
who's been the winningest coach for two different franchises with
the Eagles and Chiefs, but also to have over one
hundred wins with both franchises. But one thing I like
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about this is still to make the Eagles fans man.
He was fourteen years with Philadelphia and with Philadelphia had
one hundred and thirty wins, and he was ten and
nine in the playoffs. He had ten wins in phillip
In Kansas City in two years less he has thirteen
more wins one hundred and forty three in the regular season,
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and of course, his playoff record now overall is twenty
eight playoff wins, just three behind. But he's got Bill Belichick.
But he has eighteen playoff wins in Kansas City. He
had the one in twenty fifteen before Patrick started his role. So, yes,
fourteen years with the Eagles were awesome, but his twelve
years with Kansas City has actually surpassed that. But here
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he is meeting them again for the second time in
three years in a Super Bowl with the team that
he basically turned around as well. And he didn't win
the big Game, he was close. And I remember the
day he ended his fourteen years, there was this kind
of a sad day. I'm thinking, Man, this guy's left
such a footprint, but can we get him? We got him.
He's left two feet here in Kansas City. So it's
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just been awesome to see the way Andy, who needed
also he and Tammy need to replant their life. They'd
gone through a very difficult twenty twelve season like we had,
and of course lost their son here, right, but he
had to Andy and the look, where am I going
to go next? Where am I going to go? And
he found potting saw here in the Chiefs Kingdom and
he has developed the biggest, best crop ever and now
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there's a chance to make full time NFL history. So
that's an obvious storyline, but that's my second.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, it's a great one. I think.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
What's kind of interesting about that is in fifty years,
coachrit will be remembered as the Chiefs head coach. And
if I told you that back in twenty thirteen, he'd
be like, I mean, he had this amazing run with
the Eagles, and that's true, an incredible success with Philadelphia,
and football historians will always remember that. But the casual
fan fifty years from now is going to remember him
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as the Chief's head coach because of all this immense success.
And he's going to have an opportunity here to go
down as the greatest coach of all time. You and
I are think he is, but like it's going to
be a fact. If the Chiefs can pull this off
against the Eagles and be the first team in NFL
history to win three consecutive Super Bowls, that'll be what
four super bowls for coach. He'll have six Super Bowl
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appearances already ties Shula for the second most all time.
And again, like I said earlier, Mahomes is twenty nine.
This train is not slowing down. So anyway, not only
will he go down as the Chiefs head coach, he's
going to go down as I think the greatest to
ever do it. And one of the reasons he's so
great is how he gets the best out of his players.
And that leads to another storyline. For me, it's Joe Toney,
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Joe Tuney. I get he plays on the offensive line,
doesn't score touchdowns all that. If the Chiefs win the
Super Bowl, it needs to go down as one of
the great single season storylines in NFL history, because, you know,
I was trying to think earlier. Someone asked me, Hey,
what was the turning point for this season? Because last
year it was obvious it was the Christmas Day game. Well,
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when you go fifteen and two, it's kind of hard
to be like, what was this the turning point? The
team was obviously really good and got the ones seed,
won the division with time to spare.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But I thought more about it.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
You know, the turning point might have been the Cleveland
game because even though the team was winning, there were
protection issues up front, and I think there was a
fair conversation about can this team sustain success in the
postseason if they can't protect, and putting Joe Toney out
at left tackle was a bit of a gamble. He
had done it some, as we talked about before, but
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he's an All Pro guard. He hadn't played week after
week at left tackle really since what college, but Coachy
puts him out there against Cleveland, Houston twice, Pittsburgh and Buffalo.
We're talking about some of the best pass rushes, best
defensive lines, best overall pass rushers in the league, Guys
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like Miles Garrett, Daniel Hunter, Will Anderson, TJ. Watt, Greg
Russeau Von Miller, really really really good edge rushers, and
all Joe has done specifically over his last three games
so against Pittsburgh, Houston, and Buffalo, two of those being
playoff games, and the Pittsburgh game being a quasi playoff
game because that locked up the one seed. He's allowed
a total of three pressures on one hundred and fifteen
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pass blocking snaps. That's crazy. Those are like full time
best tackle in the NFL kind of numbers, And for
Joe to be doing this is nothing short of remarkable.
It's a testament to who he is as a player,
his technique, his reliance on what he's learned over the
years and his ability to take on that challenge. It
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is not easy. It's not as simple as hey, you're
a really good guard, you can bounce out and play tackle.
It's really hard. There's a reason most guys can't do it.
For him to not only accept that challenge, but to
thrive to excel and to allow this offense to look
the best it's looked all year long and the biggest
moments is really cool. So hopefully that Chiefs pulled this
thing off in a couple weeks, and we're going to
talk all about Mahomes and Kelsey and Chris Jones and
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coach Red deservingly so. But I do not want Joe
Tunny to be lost in the narrative of all this
because I think if we win the Super Bowl, Joe
is a huge reason why.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, and that's a ex It's an excellent choice by you,
and again a subplot. If you had a Ted Lasso episode,
it would be Joe who was a story. The fact
that he was the only NFL player to play in
Super Bowls his first three years. Remember he played in
the loss to the Eagles with the Patriots, then the
victory over the Rams and he came here. I get
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those years right, But anyway, the fact that Joe then
moves out to left tackle premium position and has played
against this all star cast and has done so well,
that's an excellent choice. My third one is Kareem's second chance.
If we were watching an anthology series here and all
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of a sudden, the premier back that the rookie back
of the year basically in twenty seventeen just took the
world by storm Toledo and became an awesome player, great
for this offense, and then be dismissed from the team
in twenty eighteen. Before all of this hoopla started, the
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Chiefs only had the one playoff victory the wild card
went over in fifteen, going all the way back to
nineteen ninety three beat the Colts in eighteen. Kareem wasn't here.
Kareem Hunt dismissed from the team and for a good reason,
we all know that, but he kept his career going,
trying to turn his life around in Cleveland and then
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to get the chance to come back. First of all,
Brett Beach has done his best job yet. Maybe the
twenty two draft class would be one you could argue
against it, or for him to add DeAndre Hopkins, Samah
jp Ryan. People have seen the reels of me saying
I love Sama JP Ryan, I love you JP Ryan.
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But Kareem Hunt's story. The Chiefs wouldn't be here without
Kareem Hunt and the fact that when you dive in
to a guy that had never wanted a visional playoff game,
he had watched from back. Patrick was in his draft class,
so he's watching all this happen. He and I had
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two good visits about that, and one was public, one
was private. But he was not jealous. It'd be easy
to be jealous, to go, man, I missed out on that,
or to feel he felt remorseful. But there was always
hope with Kareem, the hope that maybe, just maybe there's
an infinititional chance, but I'll get a chance to do
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it with those guys. And here he is a perfect
plot for some series. It is the prodigal sun coming
home essentially. But who has saved this team in many
cases to give them short yardage, runner with a burst,
give favorable down in distance, be a red zone machine.
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There's what people made not realize. He has played in
six playoff games. Counting his time with Cleveland, Kareem Hunt
has eight playoff touchdowns in six games. He has seven
rushing sessions. He was really productive with the Browns in
the postseason before with US, and keep in mind he
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played one game in seventeen in the playoffs for US.
That's it. And so the fact that he has been
so good in the playoffs is a Damian Williams redo
the Runda immortality in Super Bowl fifty four. But even
more so, Kareem has taking this up a notch ahead
of Damian Williams. And now he's got a chance. But
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his chance gave us a chance. And it's like Andy Reid.
Andy Reid needed another place to go. Andy Reid's second
chance gave us this immense chance. And so there's a
plot within a plot here, but to me, it's really intriguing.
And if Kareem Hunt can win this Super Bowl and
help the Chiefs make history, then he'll become one of
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the great stories within a story of this team.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
You see him walking around on the field after the
trophy presentation, like long after people had cleared out, he
was still just kind of wandering around. There's an element
that you can tell that he just can't believe that
this is real. I mean, he looked back to twenty seventeen,
led the league in rushing. He was going to be
the next big thing, and the Chiefs were going to
be the next big thing, and he was going to
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be right in the middle of it. Obviously didn't work
out that way. But now for him to be back
all these years later contributing, helping the Chiefs get to
the Super Bowl, I mean, it's such a cool story,
and you're right, we wouldn't be here without him. He
led this team in scrimmage yards this season, and when
we lost Pacheco after Week two, that was concerning, right,
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because you lose your belcow, what are you going to do?
I mean, you can't just put all the weight on
the passing game, particularly after Rashi got hurt. Well, Kareem
comes in and saves this team and kind of changed
how we approach things offensively, and you could just tell
the way that he was running against Buffalo, he's not
wasting his opportunity. Speaking of guys who came back, kind
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of on a smaller scale, but similar idea, Jalen Watson
is a storyline for me and Jalen is an interesting
one because we lose him in Week seven and he
was having an awesome year up until that point. And
I think you and I are in agreement here. We
didn't think he was coming back this season. Like I know,
there was like some chatter out there that, oh, maybe
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he's coming back. You and I are like, nah, I
don't think he's coming back. Just doesn't seem realistic. He
can't count on that. Well, it's a credit to him
and probably some luck as well that he's back now
and he's not just like on the roster, he's contributing.
Look at what he did against Buffalo. He was on
the field for thirty covered snaps, He was targeted three
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times and allowed two catches for nine yards. I mean
that's a big, big deal against the number two scoring
offense in the NFL, and Josh Allen, he was awesome.
And you throw a player like that back into this defense,
it just changes everything because it allows Spags to truly
go into his bag of tricks. Think about up that
final incredible play on fourth down. Well, you can't do
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exotic blitzes like that if you don't have confidence in
your corners to cover man on man on an island
on the back end, those guys aren't getting much help.
With Watson, you can count on him to go out
there and to handle his assignment. He's big, he's long,
he can cover receivers like aj Brown who have a
size advantage over smaller players. It's just a big, big
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deal having Jalen back and I love seeing him not
just back, but making an impact like he did against
the Bills.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I'm with you all the way. The other thing it
did is it put guys, whether it's Nazie Johnson or
Joshua Williams or Christian Roland Wallace, and it's your Spags
bag of tricks. Now all of a sudden, Spags can
put those guys in roles. I'm not playing a rook
and a bishop's role. Yeah, playing bush a bishop and
a queen's role. If we're playing chess, I have all
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my pieces in the area they need to be with
their strength set what they're strengths are, and it allows
Spags at So it's a full compliment of dudes. And
I like that one. Was that all you had, because
I'm going to close it out with this one unless
you got another one.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I have one more mel hit on real quick before
this one.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, go ahead, Well.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
It's other side of the ball. It's Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And for those that listen on a weekly basis, we've
kind of talked about Xavier like every week for a
while now, and deservingly so. Xader Worthy as a rookie
just had his best game as a pro against Buffalo,
career best eighty five receiving yards and the biggest game
of his life. Also toped one hundred yards and scrimmage
for the first time. And the thing with Xavier is
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it's the consistency. So every game that he's played in
and we're throwing out the Week eighteen game. That game
is a little frustrating because I think he was on
the field for like one or two snaps, so technically
it's like logged like in his game of Logs, but
he didn't play. So we're throwing that out. Since Week eleven,
and every game he actually played in he's recorded at
least forty receiving yards. It's nine straight games, and it's
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not just stuff for he's schemed open. I think that's
kind of the misconception about him, like, oh, he has
this great speed and he's not very big, so he
schemed open. He's like one of the best contested catch
receivers in the league right now. You can't argue that
that catch that he had to set up a touchdown
before halftime against Buffalo was unbelievable and the strength that
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he showed, and he had one against Houston as well
where he just went up there and got it. When
you have a player who runs a sub four to
three and he can go up with the strength to
making tested catches. I don't want to get too far
ahead of myself because we got to go win this
game in a couple of weeks. But Xavier is going
to be a star in this league. Like imagine what
he and Rashi are going to do next year together.
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So I'm super excited for Xavier. He's one of those
players that clearly, over the course of the year really
figured it out and he's helping this team win. We
are not to this point now without Xavier Worthy, and
it's kind of cool because he had to grow up
quickly with Rashi getting hurt, but now with Hollywood healthy,
with DeAndre Hopkins in the fold, and with Jujus ms
Schuster kind of having an impact now as well. He
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doesn't have to do everything. He can just go out
there and be exavier and it makes us often so
dynamic and dangerous, so excited to see what he's going
to do in his first career Super Bowl. But Xavier
does his growth over the course of the year and
a chance to finish his rookie year of the Super
Bowl championship as my final storyline awesome.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And I'll just tag it with two things. One and
it is just a little about kak Rosstie last year.
He's reaching this crescendo in the playoffs. He's doing it
when it counts the most, and more often than not
it's the other way. Great regular season by a rookie,
but where are they in the playoffs? And they not
only stay, they diminish. He's a sending. The second thing
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is coming out of Texas with that four to two
one speed people kind of I think miscast him is
just a go route guy. He's just got to run
go routes or stutters and goes and run nine routes.
He has become an excellent route runner, whether it's crosses
or double moves, arrows or and I told you my
favorite route with him is now that slice route which
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he's kind of a delay and it's not a crosser.
It's not a shadow or a medium crosser. It's basically
in an angle and it's not an over route. You
slice it. And so he's become awesome at that. The
other thing, Matt, I'll tag it with it the nose
for the end zone. Yeah, these nine touchdowns as a
rookie now put him right there with Roschi Rice last year.
And the fact that he knew where that pylon was
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the other day when he took off. He knows. So
to develop that sense as a receiver to be a
route runner. Work with Pat. I'm with you. I am
so excited about his future. We'll close this way because
you can't make it up if Ted Lasser's riders came
up with this. The fact that the Kansas City Chiefs
and as I mentioned at the end of the broadcast,
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are now past Pluto, We're beyond the we are beyond
the normal NFL solar system. Because there's a chance to
do something that's never ever ever been done. The Chiefs
had the chance to do that where they won Super
Bowl four. The Chiefs have a chance. They will work
out on the same field or near the same field
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where they won Super Bowl four at Tulane University. That's
our workout facility, and that and of itself like, oh,
come on, guys, that's a little too corner here. That's
you know, Nope, that's where we're going. And the fact
that we will be there. Which was the last American
Football League team to play because the Chiefs represented the
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afllen beating the Minnesota Vikings on that game, the first
franchise Super Bowl victory, and to do so as the
last AFL team. The other thing that I think is
fun this is Super Bowl fifty nine. Lamar Hunt founded
the American Football League in nineteen fifty nine, So it's
just too much fun to look at all of these
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subplots and realize and if you're one of Ted Lasso's
writers and you follow us on defending the Kingdom and
you're gone, and they got us on this one. None
of this is fiction. It's all fact.