February 20, 2025 • 41 mins
Lee and Simon are joined by Travis Wingfield from the Miami Dolphins to preview the upcoming Scouting Combine. Listen to find out which prospects he thinks might be of interest to the Dolphins!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, Dolphins. This is Travis Winfield and you're listening
to the Dolphin UK podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Jeep Steve very well, Hello and welcome to the Dolphin
(00:40):
UK Podcast. We are back after a week off for
the super Bowl. First of all, we've got a guest.
Before I introduced our guest, y, how is it to
be back?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, always nice to be back and talking Mammy Dolphins leave.
This should be a good show considering we've got a
really good guest on this week.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's it. We've moved on. We're pasted it and we're
fully into the off season. And if you were embracing
the off season properly, you are absolutely following Travis's Drive
time podcast and we are lucky enough to have the
man himself here. Travis. Welcome and thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm happy to be on, guys, and I always ask
these questions to overseas guests or when I do the
Overseas podcast. Do you guys watch the Super Bowl live?
That's got to be what an early morning kickoff for youall?
If it's the Dolphins, obviously you would, but when it's
two teams you don't care about, do you wake up
in the morning and catch the recorded version or do
you watch it live?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I watch it live. I have done every year. In fact,
funny story, very quickly, my very first Super Bowls that
I watched live was the Bears Patriots in eighteen wow
six and it was in the Superdome. And my son Danny,
who's thirteen, watched his first Super Bowl live a couple
of weeks back, and it was also in the Superdome
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in New Orleans and we were the same age as well.
So yeah, so he's now following in my footsteps. And
I've got a partner for life watching it every year
because I just tend to watch it on my own normally.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
That's great time as a flat circle, it truly is.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, I watch it live as well. Absolutely you have
to watch it live. Is our last live football of
the year. Might not be might not be the Dolphins,
but still well watch I don't necessarily watch all of
the late playoff games. I'll watch the earlier kickoffs and
then whenever I feel tired, go to sleep. But the
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Super Bowls is a must watch. I'll be honest. Some
of us are animals, and we'll also be staying up
to watch the Draft as well, and that's a whole
different that's a whole different animal. But we will get
onto some draft stuff very surely. But sorry, I know
you've got some questions for Travis, So should we kick
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off there before we get into it.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, we're going to talk about some prospects, aren't aren't
we going forward? But just before we do that, I
wanted to set the scene in terms of your going
to the Combine this year, and I know you've been
in previous years. Just wanted to know what the Combine
is like from your perspective in terms of the event itself,
the atmosphere, all the college plays, all certainly the major
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college players that are in attendance. What's it like being
at the Combine for you?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's very cold going up past the Mason Dixon line,
you know, out of the seventy degree temperature here in
South Florida in February up to what was ten degrees
when I checked it last. It's supposed to be in
the threes and fouries when we get up there. Luckily,
Indy is this awesome centralized city that has everything really
close together, and you can pretty much get anywhere without
leaving indoors because they have like this tunnel system that
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you can travel through. So I will bear the cold
as best as I can, but try to avoid it
as much as I can. As far as the event itself,
it's really for me more about access to people that
I normally wouldn't have easy access to, and that's obviously well,
I mean, coaching Chris Greer are different because I work
in the same building as them, but we will get
their press conferences and cover those and loop that around
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conversations with the likes of Daniel Jeremiah, you know, Jeff Darlington,
you know, Bucky Brooks, maybe Peter Schrager, guys of you know,
really big time names across the NFL media landscape, and
just get their kind of feel for what free agency holds,
what the draft class obviously holds, how the Dolphins might
approach all of those things, you know, changes and.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Reviews of the previous year.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It's just a good chance to get multiple expert voices
on the podcast because for the last month and a
half it's it's just me for the most part. I've
had guests here and there, but it's really just my
own perspective of my study, and it's nice to kind
of bring all the work of the last you know,
it's really it goes back into really twenty twenty four,
so I guess a few months and then measure it
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up or get my questions prepared for those guys, to
just give myself further knowledge of what this class offers
and what the off season might look like, which of course, starts,
you know, the minute back from India. It's like two weeks,
and then free agency starts and off we go into
twenty twenty five. So that's my main focus. You know,
players speak at the Risers. I'm there for like half
of those events, and I'll try to talk to some
of the players, but it's it's kind of hit or
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miss on who you might be able to get. Because
I'm doing interviews, I might have to step out, and
so it's kind of tricky to I don't really plan
to get anybody in particular, because you just don't know
how it's going to change and how it's going to evolve.
But it's really just trying to catch up with my
media cohorts, my close friends that work in the media,
the big time names getting a great stake of course,
and maybe some whiskey too.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It must be it's also great to get that outside
perspective because I'm sure your feeds and algorithms are is
polluted with just local beat writers and media content. It's possible,
which is great, but at some point it's great to
get that outside perspective and you know, people who are
looking at the entire league and looking in and let
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you say, speaking to the big names around the league
and kind of getting a less biased opinion of what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, it's funny because you know, I think what a
lot of football fans fall victim to maybe people to
even cover the team and it's impossible to follow all
three two. I am fully aware of that, but I
think that a lot of fans can fall into the
trap of like comparing the Dolphins currently to previous Dolphins teams,
and with that you lose sight of how league trends
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develop and.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Evolve and where the league is these days.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Like the big one you're hearing right now is dead cap, right,
But do you know who leads the league in dead
cap this year? It's the Philadelphia Eagles, the team that
just hoisted a Lombardi Trophy. And that's just kind of
how business is done. So I think that a lot
of times, you know, that national perspective to your point,
lead offers, you know, comparisons to the Dolphins, to the
New York Jets, or the Cleveland Browns or the Kansas
City Chiefs, not just the Dolphins of twenty fourteen and
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what they did ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I think there's a lot of value in that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
We're going to talk about the candidates in a minute, Travis,
but I just wanted to ask you what the process
is like for scouts, coaches and dms who are in attends.
How do they identify and interview potential draft candidates while
they're up there? Do they have a pre defined list
of those they want to speak to based on the
scouting reports or do it on the fly. What's what's
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that process like whilst they're up there?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, I mean, you get as much of your personnel
up there as you possibly can because all these teams,
and I can't speak for everybody, but for the most part,
teams are really well staffed in terms of their scouting departments,
you know, pro personnel as well as college scouts, and
you try to get as many guys up there as
you can just to kind of you know, I guess,
get first hand looks at these guys. It's really the
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last chance they're going to have all these people in
one centralized location.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
And to be totally honest with.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You, like, the main thing really is the medical Like
these guys get their medical checks, they're scheduled to go
you know, see a doctor and go through that process
and then you get you know, cleared or in the
case of some guys, like some guys have had their
lives saved by those medical checks because they were not
privy to you know, you know, medical situations they had
and they wound up getting treatment care for it that
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saved their life. So that's like the biggest thing that
the teams look at. And then also just getting you know,
touching the players, you know, being face to face with
them and getting to kind of know how they are
and how they click and how they operate, and you know,
that can be difficult in a ten minute meeting, but
it's better than a no minute meeting talking to a
player and kind of seeing what his personality is and
what's important to him and you know, why he loves
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football and all that stuff. So it's it's really just
about meeting the kids and then kind of from there
you can develop your list of visits and you know
who you want to hone in on in terms of
doing further research. And maybe there's a guy that had
great tape and you meet him and his character is like,
that was kind of fishy.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Maybe we should do some more some more deep dive
on that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Or maybe it's vice versa where it's like the tape
wasn't great, but I thought the kid was awesome, would
be a great culture fit for us. We can kind
of circle back and watch more tape and try to
see what where he might fit. So it's really just
furthering your education process for what is kind of an
unknown process right the draft is so, I mean, projecting
college tape to protape is tough enough. And then you
factor in what motivates you, what happens when you get money,
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what happens when you're on your own for the first time.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
It's just such a tricky process.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
It's just the next step in, you know, getting as
much information as you can on what's say, not a
blind crap shoot, but it's not. It's certainly not a
tried and true process. That's why there's so many you know,
I think a good batting urage for teams is like
four hundred in the draft.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Do you think there's ever a state where the draft
and free agency almost flip in terms of the timeline,
because you know, I'm thinking about it, then you know
everything you've just mentioned, and really every team has to
go there and evaluate as many players as possible, but
we all know that that's going to come into some
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much narrower focus once free agency hits, and actually your
time would be you'd be able to kind of allocate
your time better if you already knew some of that
stuff beforehand. Or do you think it's great that there's
an unknown going into it. I just think it's a
The timing is interesting to me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I've always thought it'd be best to flip them to
your point ly, just because I think free agency and
especially today with just with how just with how it
kind of goes every year, and I think, you know,
I've talked about in the podcast, like if you go
to the open market for a tackle, you're probably paying
more than what you're getting, which is obviously bad business. Right,
that's just the history of that position. Typically, that's a
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tough position to find. Teams don't let those good players
like that walk, and then ones that do there's a
deficiency there, but they get paid as if there's not
a deficiency. And I would say a wide receiver is
starting to kind of follow that similar mold as well
in the free agent market. And so I think that
when you're free agent shopping, you should be shopping more
specifically for need and that in that world than you
would in the draft, where you guys, know, I take
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the best player for your football team, because especially with
again modern NFL, there are so many one year contracts
and that the turnover is more than it's ever been
year to year. Drafting for a need, it's valuable for
four months, and then your needs change because an injury happens,
or you trade for somebody, or you know, it's just
as constantly evolving, Like you know, Mike McDaniel has talked
about that Cedric Wilson signing. When they signed him, they
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were kind of preparing him to be the number two,
and then Tyreek Hill shows up, and well, you're not
the number two anymore because Tyreek Hill is here. So
those needs constantly evolve and shift, and I think if
you go into the draft you would get well, I
think the Dolphins do do a good job of going
best player available, but I think that more teams might
kind of have that approach. Maybe that's ad a good
thing for the Dolphins, but I think that it would
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empower teams to take the best player for their program.
And then you're like, Okay, here's what we got in
the draft. We can kind of, you know, if you
take a tight end in the first round, we don't
sign one this year now, and we can kind of,
you know, shift our model to go after needs in
free agency after the draft compared to how it is now.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
It's funny, isn't it, Because no general manager or head
coaches ever stood at the podium and said, I've just
got too much talent. And then do you know what
I mean? I just want to collect as much talent
as possible. If that's multiple players at the same position,
that's the best problem you could possibly have. I just
want to get one more thing from me before we
move on. And this is a bugbear I've had, and
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I know I might be in the minority, but around
draft time we get a lot of this is especially
with the O Lion. This guy has played tackle in college,
and he's played tackle in college. His entire life, and
then someone will come out and say he projects well
as a guard, and you're now, you know, as you said,
they there's a there's a huge element of risk to
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the draft as it is, but now not only projecting
him making the leap from college to the NFL, I'm
also making the assumption that he can change position, and
we've seen in the past that I don't know if
that necessarily is in the player's best interest. There's some
players who have been able to do it. I think,
you know, when Laramie tuns have played inside, like great
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Larry Tuns was also projected to be the number one
overall pick in the NFL. He is like the the outlier,
not the you know, not the average guy. And I
think we've seen some players that the Dolphins have drafted
move physician, and I don't know if that means you've
got the best out of them, and actually you should
probably just play them where they were and if you
didn't want them to taking someone else.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, I love that you mentioned Laramie Tunzel because I
always tell the story. One of my first interactions with
the player in a locker room was via the you know,
the fan weekend that you guys enjoy quite a lot
where you come down and get to watch a game
from the press conference and you get locker room access
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And I asked Laramie.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It was I can't remember what year it was, twenty eighteen,
probably he had probably just kicked out to tackle after
playing his rookie year two years at guard, and I
was like, what did the guard experience teach you about
playing tackle? And he said, it taught me that I
never want to do that again. So he didn't want
to play guard. He hated the idea. But then you
look at like the Eagles this year, who just again
won a championship. Their starting right guard was a first
round pick at tackle who flamed out for the Jets
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and never kicked inside. And now he goes to Philly
employees guard Makai Becton, and he was awesome all year
long at that guard spot. So you kind of have
to just I guess, you know, your constant projecting what
you think guys can and can't do, and the cross
training things is so you know, critical, and today the NFL,
especially in this offense, where it's a little more aligned
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in terms of like this is how we want to
play across the offensive line as a unit compared to
your five individuals. I think that the ability to cross
train when you can only address eight guys is imperative
because you're going to have guys that are maybe a tackle,
but if your guard goes down, you shift things across
the offensive line and maybe a tackle does go into
the guard spot. So I get where you're coming from
in terms of like, this is already such a hard process,
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But that's why they have these twenty thirty forty man
scouting staffs that get paid the big bucks to figure out,
like I like these skills, that skill translates to our
offense as a right guard compared to a right tackle. Like,
let's go forward with that. So there's given take to pay.
It's kind of like the entire draft process, right, It's
all give and take love it.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
So there's gonna be plenty of talent on show in
Indianapolis when you travel up there, Travis. From a dolphin's perspective,
who are the players that you're looking forward to seeing
that perhaps might fit a need. Who the players that
you're looking out for personally that we as fans should
also be keeping an eye on.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Was that. I'm sorry. That was for offense.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, offense. We'll do defense as well,
but yeah, how about on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yes, I wrote down I wrote down four names for
you guys, but I'm going to stick to three. So
the first one is the debate that you guys are
going to see, you know, across social media, and it's
already been out there, and to me, I think the
misunderstanding of this player just demonstrates a lack of knowledge
of what this offense does. And I'm talking, of course
about Tyler Warren, the Penn State tight end. I mean,
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I keep seeing like, we don't need a tight end,
we have John hu Smith. Like those are not the
same positions. Tyler Warren would not play the same position
as John new Smith, and it would give you something
I think this offense really lacked a year ago in
terms of a guy that I think would play ninety
percent of your snaps from day one, which is a
great value. And you know that's that's kind of how
the tight end position gets detegrated sometimes is the idea
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that doesn't play all time. But if you get a
guy of his caliber, of his skill set, you're talking
about a guy that will be your wide tight end
in eleven or twelve personnel packages. That's two tight ends
versus one tight end that can really seal the edge
and get drive off the edge, which is so so
critical in an outside zone based scheme. He can also
take snaps from a wildcat from under center and be
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a short yard conversion guy. And oh, by the way,
he's also a very crafty route runner who is an
absolute demon with the ball in his hands after the
catch a lah John Us Smith and so from if
you take a guy like him, all of a sudden,
your twelve personnel package becomes Johnnu and Tyler Warren, Rea
can waddle and Devon ah Chan find me a better
group of eligibles in the NFL than that. You can't
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do it, and it keeps me flexible to where I
could go, you know, add two gaps in the running
game with putting both my tight ends into the formation
and run the ball that way, or I can flex
them all out because John who's a great route runner,
and Warren's good enough as a receiver to be able
to run from the slot position. So I think the
flexibility that adds and just how imperative the edge blocking
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is in this offense and where I thought it came
up a little bit short last year. To me, Warren solves.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Your short yarded situation.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
He solves the paramount theme of your offense in the
outside zone running game. He offers values a receiver as
a big body and a trusted target that can separate
quickly enough, and he just creates ultimate flexibility in your offense.
And to me, it would allow you to play more
under center, play action game where I think two was
really deadly as well. So I think Tyler Warren is
to me, he checks every box and if he's there
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at thirteen, to me, it's almost I don't want to
say no brainer, because there's so many good options in
the draft, but I would have a really hard time
passing on him. The other two names I gave you
are receivers. I think that I wrote down a fourth name.
Jackson Slater from Sacramento State is a guard prospect that
I thought had a really good showing of the Senior Bowl.
And he can do some stuff where he gets out
in space and polls and scoot blocks and reaches three
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techniques and all that fun stuff. But I think the
real value on the offensive line on the interior offensive
line this year is via free agency, and I would
think that's that's where you kind of put your focus
on that position if you want to upgrade it. Where
I think the receiver position is better for the draft,
and we'll see what Miami needs. You know, this year,
we've talked about big body receivers. You know, I'm kind
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of going back to the same theme here of short
yardage and flexible players. There is a kid from TCU
and I'm not going to talk about Jack Besh because
he is also a very good possible fit here, but
his teammate, Saveon Williams, is a guy that kind of
reminds me of DK Metcalf a little bit coming out
in the sense that he's like two hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
He's six foot four.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I expect him run a four to four, you know,
next week in Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
He doesn't have like a.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Super polished route tree, which was a knock on Metcalf,
but he's good enough to separate. And he also had
like fifty carries as a wildcat quarterback, which again short yardage.
That type of breakaway speed. I really like his game.
The final one is the Stanford receiver Elick ale Manor
Ale Manor, I think that is how you say it.
He just his separation, or rather his release package off
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the last scrimmage. The kind of guy that I think
would really feast on what the Dolphins offense opens up
for that position in terms of getting one on one coverage.
He took Travis Hunter, the Colorado cornerback to school this
year in that game, and that's that's the best lockdown
cornerback in the draft. So I think that his route
running ability would really meshing with what the Dolphins do here.
So Tyler Warren the tight end, you have to take
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him at thirteen if you're gonna get him at all, and
then save you on Williams and Elick ayomanor the two
receivers probably somewhere on day two.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And how happy would oj b if you take a
tight tight end from Penn State at thirteen?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh, he's heard me talking about Warren for months now,
so he he loves the idea. Plus, hey put him
in eighty one. Juice is going to be flag of
about that too.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Love that.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
What about on the defensive side of the ball than
Travis Who are the who the players to keep an
eye for that could help the Dolphins on defense.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, this one was tougher for me to narrow down
because I just think that the draft is so deep
at defensive tackle, at cornerback, at linebacker, at all the
spots safety and edger deep too, So I had a
really hard time picking these ones. But I'll go with
three players that I think again fit specific needs for
the Miami Dolphins, and my first two guys are gonna
have to be first round picks. My second guy probably
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a second round pick, although he is my second rated
off ball linebacker behind Jahad Campbell from Alabama. So we'll
go ahead and start in the front with Michigan defensive
tackle Kenneth Grant. When I watch him, I see Dexter Lawrence.
He is gonna He's like three hundred and forty pounds.
He has really good speed to the perimeter. He will
absorb double teams and stack up the nose, has really
good wiggles, a pass rusher and relentless motor. I think
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that if you put him next to Zach Seeler and
then you get you know, Jalen Phillips and Chop Robinson
off the edge, you are absolutely cooking with gas, with size, strength, speed,
everything you want from those four guys would be a
lot of fun to watch. And there's a lot of
defensive tackles in this class that can give you some
of that. I think Kenneth Grant is the best option
among guys that could be there. Mason Graham, his teammate,
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will be long gone by then, and then small ski
prospect Chavon Revel junior from East Carolina.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I am so enamored with his game.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He he tore his ACL in September in practice, so
he'll be coming back off of that, which I know
gives Dolphins fans kind of the.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
The shivers there.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
But he's a six foot three cornerback who has I'm
guessing he'll have the longest arms of any cornerback in
the draft just watching on tape, I have no idea
what the measurements are, but we'll get that in Indianapolis.
And he is just you want to talk about a
pressman corner who has versatility, who can play slot, who
can play off, who could maybe even play some you know,
safety role for you, I think about what you know.
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Anthony Weavers said about the value of Kendall Fuller and
Cater Kohu was their versatility because it allowed them to
be more versatile with Jalen Ramsey. I think Revel has
that in spades. I think that he is going to
be a lockdown corner in this league. And we just
saw what Quinnyon Mitchell did as a small school prospect
for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think he's the next guy
to do that stuff. And then in the second round,
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Jordan Brooks I think needs a running mate. We'll see
what they do with Tyrrell Dodson and with Anthony Walker
in free agency. But Carson Sweeshinger from UCLA kind of
reminds me of Peyton Wilson last year. If you guys
remember him as a prospect, he went to the Pittsburgh Steelers,
played a bunch of snaps, was an impact player for them.
He's only a one year starter, which is why I
think he's not projected to go in the top like
forty picks. But he is long, he's strong, he defeats
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blocks with real conviction. He can kind of recognize a
run to a gap before it happens and anticipate and
get himself in position. He's a pure tackler. He's a
special teams guy as well that blocks punts for the
Bruins last year. So Carson Sweeshinger is one of my
favorite players in the entire class, and I hope they
find a way to get him sometime on Day two.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Sorry, I was a little bit distracted day just because
I just saw a post pop up from Dan Groziano
from ESPN saying that the salary cap is going to
be up to the Sorry. The NFL has reportedly informed
teams that the Cup will be between twenty sorry two
hundred and seventy seven point five million and two hundred
and eighty one point five million, up about fifty three
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million over the last two seasons. That's quite the increase.
And again, as we were saying with the draft and
how everything changes with needs, this changes everything as well.
Like it it's an unknown when when we're at this
stage of the process.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's why teams are so willing to, you know, the
void years in contracts is this relatively new thing that
teams are willing to to, you know, push money down
the road because the money just grows because this league
is not slowing down.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Man, this train. We were playing a game of Madrid.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Did you think that was gonna happen, you know, in
the last ten years, like it just continues to grow
and find new new revenue stream. So I it's it's
gonna keep going that way for a while.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Man. Love that as you brought up Madrid, you're gonna
come to Madrid.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
So as you guys know, we'll have a oh gosh,
I gains probably what middle of the season, so that's
we're gonna have a five or six month all at
that time. So we'll see how how that works. But
my wife actually studied it in Madrid or no, was
she in Barcelona. She studied in the Spain somewhere in
college as well as in Germany, so she really wants
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to go back. We wanted to go to the Frankfurt game,
didn't quite work out. We're putting our hopes on this one,
so I hope.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So awesome, Yeah, very much looking forward to that trip.
In general, I know Lee and I are going to
do everything we can to get out there as well.
For I've already booked hotel accommodation across several weekends. Great
that it could possibly be, so that keen to get
a head start and because you know, The demand is
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going to be there, isn't it for not only for
game tickets, but from the UK you're going to have
a big demand on flight costs and then subsequently our
hotel accommodation as well. So anything to get a head
start on that can only be a good thing. I
think that brings us to halftime of the show, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Lee? Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
One position group that you haven't talked about so far
is the quarterbacks, Travis, and I know we all know
that this is a position certainly from QB two is
going to be addressed one way or the other throughout
the off season, into free agency and perhaps the draft.
But I just wanted to talk about some prospects that
will be likely in attendance at Indianapolis out the combine.
(25:16):
And we're not going to talk about the Wards or
the Sanders of this world, because they're clearly going to
go fairly early and will be not necessarily going to
be in focus for the Dolphins. But certainly there could
be a bunch of quarterbacks who might be in scope
for the Dolphins if they wish to pursue that avenue.
And I just wanted your thoughts on those guys and
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we're talking about the likes of quinn ew As from Texas,
jal Milroe from Alabama, Dylan Gabriel, who's another lefty from Oregon,
I believe, j Jackson Dart from Ole, miss and Cole
McCord from Syracuse. What's your thoughts on those guys and
are there any that you think would be a good
fit for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, there's two names you give me there that stand out,
and I'll give you t more as well from a
list of my own. But starting with Jalen Milrow. He
fascinates me so much because there was a point mid
season excuse me, where he was playing really good anticipatory ball,
you know, layering throws to the second level and then
using his escapability and like Lamar Jackson level legs to
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create with you know, the running game, and I was like,
this guy is going in the top ten the way
he's playing right now.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And then it kind of went the.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Other direction on him in terms of his production, his
ability to throw from the pocket, and then the Senior
Bowl happened and it was like, Oh, this guy might
be further way than we thought he's going to be.
And I still think he winds up getting drafted some
point on Day two just because of the physical skills
being so so darn enticing. But I think that you're
going to have to kind of accept a multiple year
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developmental track with him, I imagine, and maybe you can
use him in some you know, specialized packages as a
running quarterback. But for the most part, I think he's
a couple of years away. Even though his traits really
really intrigued me. He's the kind of guy that if
he goes in the first round, could you know, if
he plays early, could get a coach fired because of that.
But I think if he goes with the right system
in the program and develops and has a chance to learn,
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you know, I think he could really be a beneficial
asset a couple of years down the line. And then
you mentioned Kyle McCord from Syracuse. The anticipatory skill set
that he features is what attracts me the most to
his game. And that's why my next two guys I'll
talk about here I think are interesting in that regard
for one being really good at that and one for
needing a ways to go. And it's kind of like
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the same prism of do I want to draft who
I think has really rare physical traits that could develop
the rest of the game and become this, you know,
Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes type of quarterback. Or do I
focus more on the guy that can play the position
at a high level and you know, comes in with
a high floor and just gives us a quality backup
for a long time. And the guy that checks that
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first box is Tyler Shook from Louisville. He's got you know,
I talk about this all the time in the podcast.
He has that shortstop type of arm where he can
drop it down low and sling the thing and not
in the velocity and has a lot of good touch
and feel for how to place the football from those
arm slots. He can run a little bit, But I
worry that it's you know, he's he's bounced around college football.
He's gonna be the same age as like bow next
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next year, so he's you know, he's he's an old
rookie for sure. But I think that if you're going
to develop a guy and try to get him to
learn to play the position at the NFL level, those
types of skill sets make sense if you have the
patience and when it comes to a day three pick,
you know, put him on the practice squad al os
Kyler Thompson and kind of develop him that way. The
name that I think fits the system the most and
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how we play offense is Minnesota is Max Brosmer. He
is probably the best anticipatory thrower in the entire class.
I think Kyle McCord's right there with him, you know,
outside of cam Ward who is you know, you know
how I feel about cam Ward, But I think Brosmer
is a really good option on day three as a
guy that would fit in this offense, who could potentially,
with a good offseason, win the backup quarterback job. But
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to me, at worst, be that third quarterback on your
roster who gets a year of developmental you know, tutelage
from two from Tua and Daryl Bevill on the entire
offensive staff.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's interesting, like you say, the way you're breaking it
down here is, you know, do you take the risk
of you know, potentially a starting quarterback down the road
or someone who's kind of really in the role of
a backup. And it's the backup that I kind of
want to ask a question about. And it's more if
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you were trying to back up to us specifically, the
rather have someone with a similar trait or would you
rather just have the most talented quarterback? Because it feels
it fell to me a little bit last year like
a closer fit to tour would have given you better results
on offense rather than a guy who is maybe more
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talented than that backup player, not more talented than two.
Obviously that's a separate conversation. Is but do you know
what I mean? I don't think it's a case of, hey, like,
this guy's the most talented quarterback available, so he can
run the system. I don't think it played out that way.
So how you know, how would you find someone whose
game matches more to what two adults? Because it feels
like his traits are so elite that if you match
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that trait, you're probably not available as the backup.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Cool, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
The way you phrase that is perfect because I think
you know, I see that idea all the time, like
the raven should just get the next best running quarterback,
and it's like, okay, well, who is going to be
as good as Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Nobody?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And to your point, if he is, he's going in
the first round. And I think you have to view two.
A's skill set and his traits is the exact same way.
If you're trying to replicate Tua as a processor and
his accuracy and release, good luck, because he is one
of one. When it comes to those three categories put together,
you're just not going to find it. I mean, it's
if if you do, he's the fifth pick in the draft, like,
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it's that's how good you That's how how you go
when you're that good. So to me, I think the
best solution is, to your point, take the best quarterback
and then be amenable to his skill set and his
you know, his his traits that he offers. And that's
easier said than done, because you're that's not just you know,
a one player your impact. You're impacting the other fifty
two guys in the roster and your coaches as well.
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And to you know, tell Tyreek Kill and Jaylen Waddle, heye,
you're used to running these concepts and these routes and
having these side adjustments off of these shifts in motion.
Now we're going to change all that and you need
to play at the same speed with a different offense.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
So it's it's not easy to do.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
It's much easier said than done in both aspects, just
like the first part with replicating two was anticipation and accuracy.
So I think that the best way to do it
is to take the best quarterback and adjust accordingly. But
either way, I mean, it's it's tricky, man. There's a
reason why backup quarterbacks are backup quarterbacks and why you know,
there's not even three two teams that have a QB
one that they love. So I think that if you
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can find that, if you can develop that, it's a
great thing to have. That's why, like I was excited
about the idea of like an Andy Dalton because I
think that you know, you're thirty seven years old, he
has seen enough of the league to be able to
play at that level, not at two his level, but
he can anticipate and play, you know, that style of
quarterback play. If you're going after a young quarterback, it's
just not going to be on to his level in
any way. I mean, I mean, Jaden Daniels was a
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very rare case. But again, where'd he go in the draft?
Second overall? So you know, if you can find your
brock Prey in the seventh round, that's great, But those
guys also come along like once every twenty years. So
it's it's a really good question. There's not like an
answer for the question. Obviously I say here and stammer
over it for two minutes. But I think that both
things are way harder done than said.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Okay, now I'm gonna ask it in a way simpler way.
I'm going to go to Lamar Jackson route here. Would
you ever just entertain an entertaining going with a lefty
just to match you up? Does that make things easier
from a maybe a processing perspective for the other players
on your fence? Does that kind of like limit the change?
I don't know, I'm asking this is a complete layman,
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do you know I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Rather than that, Yeah, I got to me it wouldn't
impact anything that I did if I liked the player, sure,
I know, no problem with that, but it wouldn't impact
like it kind of reminds me we a little bit
of the well he never played under center. And then
Mike Leach had the great quote the old WSU coach
May he rest in peace, saying like, well, if you
can't teach a quarterback how to take a snap from
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nder center, you probably shouldn't be coaching, like that's that
is your job to get the player up to speed.
So if we can't figure out how to flip the
offense and flip you know, the strength and the weakness,
like that's on coaching. So like as a scout, I'm
saying tough stuff, you know, and I'm not saying stuff
tough ass as it were, and figured outs at your job.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Love it? No cool? So who with that? You said?
Shold we move on to an interview that came out
over the over social channels last week. It was on YouTube.
I watched it a couple of times, including the afternoon,
because I think it's a great interview. It's also great
(33:42):
to see two players that obviously haven't been in front
of the media for a long time, you know, based
on their injury, which is you know, is unfortunate, because
I think they are both great guys. They come across
really well, they engage, and they seem to give you
great thoughtful aren't. But what was it like talking with
jaman Phllips and Braxton Burius last week about the upcoming DCC.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, to your point, I mean, it's as an interviewer,
it is so nice to get people that just like
can take the torch and go with it, because you know,
you set those guys up for an answer and they
they wound up like there was a talking point we
had that we we had to get in the show.
It was about how all the all the funds do
go towards cancer research, and it was like, Travis, do
not forget to mention that? And then Braxton just rolls
(34:27):
it out like like no problem, like a true pro
that he is. So that part of it is is awesome.
It's always a joy to get players that are that
well like media trained and that good on camera and interviews,
and those guys both definitely fit that mold, which is
a big reason why they're in the position as on
the board of advisors there for the DCC because they
do represent the Dolphins very well in that regard. As
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far as like just the two guys man like to
your point, like they are just really down to earth individuals,
guys that I can you know, I'll talk to Braxton
about his golf game when I'm getting coffee, I'll talk
to Jp about anything.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
He's just like a guy that I I can wrap
about life with.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
He's He's that type of person, So talking to both
those guys, getting him on the show was a no brainer.
And then the way they delivered information about this event,
which is, you know, the greatest fundraiser event in the
National Football League, Like it's really special what this organization
does and the off the field pursuits and all the
things they're attached to. I think those two guys to
represent that as well as anybody else. And so to
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have him on the show, I wanted to ask him
about football, but we were trying to keep more to DCC.
Maybe next time I'll get some more football talking there.
But yeah, they were great subjects and just made my
job very, very easy.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So of course, the DCC event is this coming Saturday,
twenty second of February, I believe, and he plans for
the Wingfields to take part in the event as well.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Well.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Luckily, the Dolphins do a good job of making sure
I don't have to do any training or get my
body in any kind of shape because I do radio.
During the show, we have you know, like the we'll
have a doctor from Sylvester Ron, We'll have Liz Jenkins,
who's the head of the DCC board, you know, the
late wife of the great Jason Jenkins. I think JP
schedules start by as well, so we have all kinds
(36:04):
of stuff we're doing during the during the event that
will be broadcast in the radio, so I get a
pass on the physical exertion of the whole event.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Amazing, And of course that's coming up this Saturday. And
I think you mentioned that they've hit their target. Was
it fifteen million dollars raised these year? That is just incredible.
Let you say the impact that that has, so yeah,
I mean they deserve all the props for that. I
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don't know what to say, so I don't really know
where it was going off, So i'd be said, I
think that kind of brings us to a close. I
think I'm going to throw in a slight curveball and say, Travis,
is there any chance that we can talk to you
after free agency and revisit this conversation because they think
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that's going to narrow the focus quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, and I'll have two more months of college tape
in the uh in the arsenal as it were, so
i'd be happy.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
To How do you like to watch college tape? Sorry,
this is I always find if I'm watching college tape
that I don't get through enough because I have to
watch full games because I enjoy watching the the flow
of momentum that I find difficult to watch in maybe
in highlight films or strip down forty minute versions, like
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because you know, there's elements that are being taken out
and I really want to feel like, hey, if if
the game has swung in the other teams table rode,
what is the reaction of the players and and how
so how do you like to kind of consume that content.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So I'm going to give you an answer that is
not great for the listener because it's access that they
don't have. But I really like to watch cutups like
you can you can find cutups of a guy, all
of his pressures, all of his targets, all of his
you know, past attempts beyond ten yards. I like to
watch cutups of specific things I'm looking for and then
(38:00):
go watch like one or two four games. And to
your point, like, it's not a broadcast, it's on the tape,
so the situational thing is on you, the evaluator, to make.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Sure you get the clock.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
They'll show you the clock and the scoreboard before they
cut to the play. So it's on YouTube pick up
what the situation of the game is and score and
all that stuff. But yeah, I like to watch specific
cutups with like one or two games. They give me
a pretty good idea of how that player plays.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That's okay.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Just before we draw to a close, Travis just wanted
to see if you could share with the listeners any
plans you have for the Drive Time Show and Dolphins HQ.
What plans have you got coming up in the next
couple of months to cover like the combine and then
free agency and then the draft. Anything in the pipeline
that you're willing to share right now.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, definitely. It's one of my favorite times a year
as far as content goes. I always say events where
you can't lose a football game are the best because
you can just kind of be optimistic about it and
find wins, right, And that's what every player signing, every
draft pick is, as well as training camp. What you
guys know, I love that time of year too. But
we'll have the free agents, we'll roll through here and
(39:08):
we'll do the Draft Time podcast for a brief interview.
I'm sure we'll go ahead and repurpose a couple of
those for the HQ show as well. I'll do some
some film breakdowns of the free agents on HQ and
just kind of try to give fans a perspective of
what these players that we get in here offer for
the team, for the scheme, and just kind of how
they rolled in terms of who they are as people too.
So one of my favorite times a year getting to
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know a new crop of guys, develop new relationships, and
watch a lot of film man's that's the time of
year is in the film room, which is where I
am my best.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Love that. So I think with that being said, we're
going to draw this to a close somehow. We always
go into these shows thinking how are we going to
make a show out of the few questions written down?
But I think we always come to the conclusion that
once you get going, we could talk about a Dolphins
all night. If we had two, there'd be be the best.
So Joe, thank you so much for joining us. We
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really appreciate you giving up your time to join, as
we know it's not always easy with the time difference,
so we appreciate it. We love everything you do with
a drive time. And then might say I think Dolphin's
HQ has been an absolutely amazing. Addition to the content
that goes out, I'd like to be able to watch
it on TV at home, so you know, with a
smart TV, you get you on the full screen rather
than mobile content. And when I'm driving, I think it's
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a nice nice break from just the audio.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Yeah, I'm with you, man. My kids love it too.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Very time I put on the TV, it's like, oh,
there's Daddy and like sometimes because it's on CBS down
here in Miami, so when it pops up there, I'll
make sure to click on, like, hey, who's that and
they love it. So appreciate the kind words. Always happy
to do the show with you guys. I appreciate you
having me on and hopefully we'll see you in Madrid this.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Year, So I thank you for joining me again. Don't
forget to check out the Dolphins social channels across all
the normal social platforms. Obviously check out the Drivetime podcast
with Travis Dolphins HQ. Don't forget to check out Fish
Tank as well, and we will be back very
What's up, Dolphins. This is Travis Winfield and you're listening
to the Dolphin UK podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Jeep Steve very well, Hello and welcome to the Dolphin
(00:40):
UK Podcast. We are back after a week off for
the super Bowl. First of all, we've got a guest.
Before I introduced our guest, y, how is it to
be back?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, always nice to be back and talking Mammy Dolphins leave.
This should be a good show considering we've got a
really good guest on this week.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's it. We've moved on. We're pasted it and we're
fully into the off season. And if you were embracing
the off season properly, you are absolutely following Travis's Drive
time podcast and we are lucky enough to have the
man himself here. Travis. Welcome and thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm happy to be on, guys, and I always ask
these questions to overseas guests or when I do the
Overseas podcast. Do you guys watch the Super Bowl live?
That's got to be what an early morning kickoff for youall?
If it's the Dolphins, obviously you would, but when it's
two teams you don't care about, do you wake up
in the morning and catch the recorded version or do
you watch it live?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I watch it live. I have done every year. In fact,
funny story, very quickly, my very first Super Bowls that
I watched live was the Bears Patriots in eighteen wow
six and it was in the Superdome. And my son Danny,
who's thirteen, watched his first Super Bowl live a couple
of weeks back, and it was also in the Superdome
(01:58):
in New Orleans and we were the same age as well.
So yeah, so he's now following in my footsteps. And
I've got a partner for life watching it every year
because I just tend to watch it on my own normally.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
That's great time as a flat circle, it truly is.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, I watch it live as well. Absolutely you have
to watch it live. Is our last live football of
the year. Might not be might not be the Dolphins,
but still well watch I don't necessarily watch all of
the late playoff games. I'll watch the earlier kickoffs and
then whenever I feel tired, go to sleep. But the
(02:34):
Super Bowls is a must watch. I'll be honest. Some
of us are animals, and we'll also be staying up
to watch the Draft as well, and that's a whole
different that's a whole different animal. But we will get
onto some draft stuff very surely. But sorry, I know
you've got some questions for Travis, So should we kick
(02:54):
off there before we get into it.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, we're going to talk about some prospects, aren't aren't
we going forward? But just before we do that, I
wanted to set the scene in terms of your going
to the Combine this year, and I know you've been
in previous years. Just wanted to know what the Combine
is like from your perspective in terms of the event itself,
the atmosphere, all the college plays, all certainly the major
(03:18):
college players that are in attendance. What's it like being
at the Combine for you?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's very cold going up past the Mason Dixon line,
you know, out of the seventy degree temperature here in
South Florida in February up to what was ten degrees
when I checked it last. It's supposed to be in
the threes and fouries when we get up there. Luckily,
Indy is this awesome centralized city that has everything really
close together, and you can pretty much get anywhere without
leaving indoors because they have like this tunnel system that
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you can travel through. So I will bear the cold
as best as I can, but try to avoid it
as much as I can. As far as the event itself,
it's really for me more about access to people that
I normally wouldn't have easy access to, and that's obviously well,
I mean, coaching Chris Greer are different because I work
in the same building as them, but we will get
their press conferences and cover those and loop that around
(04:07):
conversations with the likes of Daniel Jeremiah, you know, Jeff Darlington,
you know, Bucky Brooks, maybe Peter Schrager, guys of you know,
really big time names across the NFL media landscape, and
just get their kind of feel for what free agency holds,
what the draft class obviously holds, how the Dolphins might
approach all of those things, you know, changes and.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Reviews of the previous year.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It's just a good chance to get multiple expert voices
on the podcast because for the last month and a
half it's it's just me for the most part. I've
had guests here and there, but it's really just my
own perspective of my study, and it's nice to kind
of bring all the work of the last you know,
it's really it goes back into really twenty twenty four,
so I guess a few months and then measure it
(04:50):
up or get my questions prepared for those guys, to
just give myself further knowledge of what this class offers
and what the off season might look like, which of course, starts,
you know, the minute back from India. It's like two weeks,
and then free agency starts and off we go into
twenty twenty five. So that's my main focus. You know,
players speak at the Risers. I'm there for like half
of those events, and I'll try to talk to some
of the players, but it's it's kind of hit or
(05:11):
miss on who you might be able to get. Because
I'm doing interviews, I might have to step out, and
so it's kind of tricky to I don't really plan
to get anybody in particular, because you just don't know
how it's going to change and how it's going to evolve.
But it's really just trying to catch up with my
media cohorts, my close friends that work in the media,
the big time names getting a great stake of course,
and maybe some whiskey too.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It must be it's also great to get that outside
perspective because I'm sure your feeds and algorithms are is
polluted with just local beat writers and media content. It's possible,
which is great, but at some point it's great to
get that outside perspective and you know, people who are
looking at the entire league and looking in and let
(05:51):
you say, speaking to the big names around the league
and kind of getting a less biased opinion of what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, it's funny because you know, I think what a
lot of football fans fall victim to maybe people to
even cover the team and it's impossible to follow all
three two. I am fully aware of that, but I
think that a lot of fans can fall into the
trap of like comparing the Dolphins currently to previous Dolphins teams,
and with that you lose sight of how league trends
(06:22):
develop and.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Evolve and where the league is these days.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Like the big one you're hearing right now is dead cap, right,
But do you know who leads the league in dead
cap this year? It's the Philadelphia Eagles, the team that
just hoisted a Lombardi Trophy. And that's just kind of
how business is done. So I think that a lot
of times, you know, that national perspective to your point,
lead offers, you know, comparisons to the Dolphins, to the
New York Jets, or the Cleveland Browns or the Kansas
City Chiefs, not just the Dolphins of twenty fourteen and
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what they did ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I think there's a lot of value in that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
We're going to talk about the candidates in a minute, Travis,
but I just wanted to ask you what the process
is like for scouts, coaches and dms who are in attends.
How do they identify and interview potential draft candidates while
they're up there? Do they have a pre defined list
of those they want to speak to based on the
scouting reports or do it on the fly. What's what's
(07:13):
that process like whilst they're up there?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, I mean, you get as much of your personnel
up there as you possibly can because all these teams,
and I can't speak for everybody, but for the most part,
teams are really well staffed in terms of their scouting departments,
you know, pro personnel as well as college scouts, and
you try to get as many guys up there as
you can just to kind of you know, I guess,
get first hand looks at these guys. It's really the
(07:35):
last chance they're going to have all these people in
one centralized location.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
And to be totally honest with.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You, like, the main thing really is the medical Like
these guys get their medical checks, they're scheduled to go
you know, see a doctor and go through that process
and then you get you know, cleared or in the
case of some guys, like some guys have had their
lives saved by those medical checks because they were not
privy to you know, you know, medical situations they had
and they wound up getting treatment care for it that
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saved their life. So that's like the biggest thing that
the teams look at. And then also just getting you know,
touching the players, you know, being face to face with
them and getting to kind of know how they are
and how they click and how they operate, and you know,
that can be difficult in a ten minute meeting, but
it's better than a no minute meeting talking to a
player and kind of seeing what his personality is and
what's important to him and you know, why he loves
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football and all that stuff. So it's it's really just
about meeting the kids and then kind of from there
you can develop your list of visits and you know
who you want to hone in on in terms of
doing further research. And maybe there's a guy that had
great tape and you meet him and his character is like,
that was kind of fishy.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Maybe we should do some more some more deep dive
on that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Or maybe it's vice versa where it's like the tape
wasn't great, but I thought the kid was awesome, would
be a great culture fit for us. We can kind
of circle back and watch more tape and try to
see what where he might fit. So it's really just
furthering your education process for what is kind of an
unknown process right the draft is so, I mean, projecting
college tape to protape is tough enough. And then you
factor in what motivates you, what happens when you get money,
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what happens when you're on your own for the first time.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
It's just such a tricky process.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
It's just the next step in, you know, getting as
much information as you can on what's say, not a
blind crap shoot, but it's not. It's certainly not a
tried and true process. That's why there's so many you know,
I think a good batting urage for teams is like
four hundred in the draft.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Do you think there's ever a state where the draft
and free agency almost flip in terms of the timeline,
because you know, I'm thinking about it, then you know
everything you've just mentioned, and really every team has to
go there and evaluate as many players as possible, but
we all know that that's going to come into some
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much narrower focus once free agency hits, and actually your
time would be you'd be able to kind of allocate
your time better if you already knew some of that
stuff beforehand. Or do you think it's great that there's
an unknown going into it. I just think it's a
The timing is interesting to me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I've always thought it'd be best to flip them to
your point ly, just because I think free agency and
especially today with just with how just with how it
kind of goes every year, and I think, you know,
I've talked about in the podcast, like if you go
to the open market for a tackle, you're probably paying
more than what you're getting, which is obviously bad business. Right,
that's just the history of that position. Typically, that's a
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tough position to find. Teams don't let those good players
like that walk, and then ones that do there's a
deficiency there, but they get paid as if there's not
a deficiency. And I would say a wide receiver is
starting to kind of follow that similar mold as well
in the free agent market. And so I think that
when you're free agent shopping, you should be shopping more
specifically for need and that in that world than you
would in the draft, where you guys, know, I take
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the best player for your football team, because especially with
again modern NFL, there are so many one year contracts
and that the turnover is more than it's ever been
year to year. Drafting for a need, it's valuable for
four months, and then your needs change because an injury happens,
or you trade for somebody, or you know, it's just
as constantly evolving, Like you know, Mike McDaniel has talked
about that Cedric Wilson signing. When they signed him, they
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were kind of preparing him to be the number two,
and then Tyreek Hill shows up, and well, you're not
the number two anymore because Tyreek Hill is here. So
those needs constantly evolve and shift, and I think if
you go into the draft you would get well, I
think the Dolphins do do a good job of going
best player available, but I think that more teams might
kind of have that approach. Maybe that's ad a good
thing for the Dolphins, but I think that it would
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empower teams to take the best player for their program.
And then you're like, Okay, here's what we got in
the draft. We can kind of, you know, if you
take a tight end in the first round, we don't
sign one this year now, and we can kind of,
you know, shift our model to go after needs in
free agency after the draft compared to how it is now.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
It's funny, isn't it, Because no general manager or head
coaches ever stood at the podium and said, I've just
got too much talent. And then do you know what
I mean? I just want to collect as much talent
as possible. If that's multiple players at the same position,
that's the best problem you could possibly have. I just
want to get one more thing from me before we
move on. And this is a bugbear I've had, and
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I know I might be in the minority, but around
draft time we get a lot of this is especially
with the O Lion. This guy has played tackle in college,
and he's played tackle in college. His entire life, and
then someone will come out and say he projects well
as a guard, and you're now, you know, as you said,
they there's a there's a huge element of risk to
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the draft as it is, but now not only projecting
him making the leap from college to the NFL, I'm
also making the assumption that he can change position, and
we've seen in the past that I don't know if
that necessarily is in the player's best interest. There's some
players who have been able to do it. I think,
you know, when Laramie tuns have played inside, like great
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Larry Tuns was also projected to be the number one
overall pick in the NFL. He is like the the outlier,
not the you know, not the average guy. And I
think we've seen some players that the Dolphins have drafted
move physician, and I don't know if that means you've
got the best out of them, and actually you should
probably just play them where they were and if you
didn't want them to taking someone else.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, I love that you mentioned Laramie Tunzel because I
always tell the story. One of my first interactions with
the player in a locker room was via the you know,
the fan weekend that you guys enjoy quite a lot
where you come down and get to watch a game
from the press conference and you get locker room access
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And I asked Laramie.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It was I can't remember what year it was, twenty eighteen,
probably he had probably just kicked out to tackle after
playing his rookie year two years at guard, and I
was like, what did the guard experience teach you about
playing tackle? And he said, it taught me that I
never want to do that again. So he didn't want
to play guard. He hated the idea. But then you
look at like the Eagles this year, who just again
won a championship. Their starting right guard was a first
round pick at tackle who flamed out for the Jets
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and never kicked inside. And now he goes to Philly
employees guard Makai Becton, and he was awesome all year
long at that guard spot. So you kind of have
to just I guess, you know, your constant projecting what
you think guys can and can't do, and the cross
training things is so you know, critical, and today the NFL,
especially in this offense, where it's a little more aligned
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in terms of like this is how we want to
play across the offensive line as a unit compared to
your five individuals. I think that the ability to cross
train when you can only address eight guys is imperative
because you're going to have guys that are maybe a tackle,
but if your guard goes down, you shift things across
the offensive line and maybe a tackle does go into
the guard spot. So I get where you're coming from
in terms of like, this is already such a hard process,
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But that's why they have these twenty thirty forty man
scouting staffs that get paid the big bucks to figure out,
like I like these skills, that skill translates to our
offense as a right guard compared to a right tackle. Like,
let's go forward with that. So there's given take to pay.
It's kind of like the entire draft process, right, It's
all give and take love it.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
So there's gonna be plenty of talent on show in
Indianapolis when you travel up there, Travis. From a dolphin's perspective,
who are the players that you're looking forward to seeing
that perhaps might fit a need. Who the players that
you're looking out for personally that we as fans should
also be keeping an eye on.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Was that. I'm sorry. That was for offense.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, offense. We'll do defense as well,
but yeah, how about on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yes, I wrote down I wrote down four names for
you guys, but I'm going to stick to three. So
the first one is the debate that you guys are
going to see, you know, across social media, and it's
already been out there, and to me, I think the
misunderstanding of this player just demonstrates a lack of knowledge
of what this offense does. And I'm talking, of course
about Tyler Warren, the Penn State tight end. I mean,
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I keep seeing like, we don't need a tight end,
we have John hu Smith. Like those are not the
same positions. Tyler Warren would not play the same position
as John new Smith, and it would give you something
I think this offense really lacked a year ago in
terms of a guy that I think would play ninety
percent of your snaps from day one, which is a
great value. And you know that's that's kind of how
the tight end position gets detegrated sometimes is the idea
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that doesn't play all time. But if you get a
guy of his caliber, of his skill set, you're talking
about a guy that will be your wide tight end
in eleven or twelve personnel packages. That's two tight ends
versus one tight end that can really seal the edge
and get drive off the edge, which is so so
critical in an outside zone based scheme. He can also
take snaps from a wildcat from under center and be
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a short yard conversion guy. And oh, by the way,
he's also a very crafty route runner who is an
absolute demon with the ball in his hands after the
catch a lah John Us Smith and so from if
you take a guy like him, all of a sudden,
your twelve personnel package becomes Johnnu and Tyler Warren, Rea
can waddle and Devon ah Chan find me a better
group of eligibles in the NFL than that. You can't
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do it, and it keeps me flexible to where I
could go, you know, add two gaps in the running
game with putting both my tight ends into the formation
and run the ball that way, or I can flex
them all out because John who's a great route runner,
and Warren's good enough as a receiver to be able
to run from the slot position. So I think the
flexibility that adds and just how imperative the edge blocking
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is in this offense and where I thought it came
up a little bit short last year. To me, Warren solves.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Your short yarded situation.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
He solves the paramount theme of your offense in the
outside zone running game. He offers values a receiver as
a big body and a trusted target that can separate
quickly enough, and he just creates ultimate flexibility in your offense.
And to me, it would allow you to play more
under center, play action game where I think two was
really deadly as well. So I think Tyler Warren is
to me, he checks every box and if he's there
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at thirteen, to me, it's almost I don't want to
say no brainer, because there's so many good options in
the draft, but I would have a really hard time
passing on him. The other two names I gave you
are receivers. I think that I wrote down a fourth name.
Jackson Slater from Sacramento State is a guard prospect that
I thought had a really good showing of the Senior Bowl.
And he can do some stuff where he gets out
in space and polls and scoot blocks and reaches three
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techniques and all that fun stuff. But I think the
real value on the offensive line on the interior offensive
line this year is via free agency, and I would
think that's that's where you kind of put your focus
on that position if you want to upgrade it. Where
I think the receiver position is better for the draft,
and we'll see what Miami needs. You know, this year,
we've talked about big body receivers. You know, I'm kind
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of going back to the same theme here of short
yardage and flexible players. There is a kid from TCU
and I'm not going to talk about Jack Besh because
he is also a very good possible fit here, but
his teammate, Saveon Williams, is a guy that kind of
reminds me of DK Metcalf a little bit coming out
in the sense that he's like two hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
He's six foot four.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I expect him run a four to four, you know,
next week in Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
He doesn't have like a.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Super polished route tree, which was a knock on Metcalf,
but he's good enough to separate. And he also had
like fifty carries as a wildcat quarterback, which again short yardage.
That type of breakaway speed. I really like his game.
The final one is the Stanford receiver Elick ale Manor
Ale Manor, I think that is how you say it.
He just his separation, or rather his release package off
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the last scrimmage. The kind of guy that I think
would really feast on what the Dolphins offense opens up
for that position in terms of getting one on one coverage.
He took Travis Hunter, the Colorado cornerback to school this
year in that game, and that's that's the best lockdown
cornerback in the draft. So I think that his route
running ability would really meshing with what the Dolphins do here.
So Tyler Warren the tight end, you have to take
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him at thirteen if you're gonna get him at all, and
then save you on Williams and Elick ayomanor the two
receivers probably somewhere on day two.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And how happy would oj b if you take a
tight tight end from Penn State at thirteen?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh, he's heard me talking about Warren for months now,
so he he loves the idea. Plus, hey put him
in eighty one. Juice is going to be flag of
about that too.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Love that.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
What about on the defensive side of the ball than
Travis Who are the who the players to keep an
eye for that could help the Dolphins on defense.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, this one was tougher for me to narrow down
because I just think that the draft is so deep
at defensive tackle, at cornerback, at linebacker, at all the
spots safety and edger deep too, So I had a
really hard time picking these ones. But I'll go with
three players that I think again fit specific needs for
the Miami Dolphins, and my first two guys are gonna
have to be first round picks. My second guy probably
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a second round pick, although he is my second rated
off ball linebacker behind Jahad Campbell from Alabama. So we'll
go ahead and start in the front with Michigan defensive
tackle Kenneth Grant. When I watch him, I see Dexter Lawrence.
He is gonna He's like three hundred and forty pounds.
He has really good speed to the perimeter. He will
absorb double teams and stack up the nose, has really
good wiggles, a pass rusher and relentless motor. I think
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that if you put him next to Zach Seeler and
then you get you know, Jalen Phillips and Chop Robinson
off the edge, you are absolutely cooking with gas, with size, strength, speed,
everything you want from those four guys would be a
lot of fun to watch. And there's a lot of
defensive tackles in this class that can give you some
of that. I think Kenneth Grant is the best option
among guys that could be there. Mason Graham, his teammate,
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will be long gone by then, and then small ski
prospect Chavon Revel junior from East Carolina.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I am so enamored with his game.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He he tore his ACL in September in practice, so
he'll be coming back off of that, which I know
gives Dolphins fans kind of the.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
The shivers there.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
But he's a six foot three cornerback who has I'm
guessing he'll have the longest arms of any cornerback in
the draft just watching on tape, I have no idea
what the measurements are, but we'll get that in Indianapolis.
And he is just you want to talk about a
pressman corner who has versatility, who can play slot, who
can play off, who could maybe even play some you know,
safety role for you, I think about what you know.
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Anthony Weavers said about the value of Kendall Fuller and
Cater Kohu was their versatility because it allowed them to
be more versatile with Jalen Ramsey. I think Revel has
that in spades. I think that he is going to
be a lockdown corner in this league. And we just
saw what Quinnyon Mitchell did as a small school prospect
for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think he's the next guy
to do that stuff. And then in the second round,
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Jordan Brooks I think needs a running mate. We'll see
what they do with Tyrrell Dodson and with Anthony Walker
in free agency. But Carson Sweeshinger from UCLA kind of
reminds me of Peyton Wilson last year. If you guys
remember him as a prospect, he went to the Pittsburgh Steelers,
played a bunch of snaps, was an impact player for them.
He's only a one year starter, which is why I
think he's not projected to go in the top like
forty picks. But he is long, he's strong, he defeats
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blocks with real conviction. He can kind of recognize a
run to a gap before it happens and anticipate and
get himself in position. He's a pure tackler. He's a
special teams guy as well that blocks punts for the
Bruins last year. So Carson Sweeshinger is one of my
favorite players in the entire class, and I hope they
find a way to get him sometime on Day two.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Sorry, I was a little bit distracted day just because
I just saw a post pop up from Dan Groziano
from ESPN saying that the salary cap is going to
be up to the Sorry. The NFL has reportedly informed
teams that the Cup will be between twenty sorry two
hundred and seventy seven point five million and two hundred
and eighty one point five million, up about fifty three
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million over the last two seasons. That's quite the increase.
And again, as we were saying with the draft and
how everything changes with needs, this changes everything as well.
Like it it's an unknown when when we're at this
stage of the process.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's why teams are so willing to, you know, the
void years in contracts is this relatively new thing that
teams are willing to to, you know, push money down
the road because the money just grows because this league
is not slowing down.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Man, this train. We were playing a game of Madrid.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Did you think that was gonna happen, you know, in
the last ten years, like it just continues to grow
and find new new revenue stream. So I it's it's
gonna keep going that way for a while.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Man. Love that as you brought up Madrid, you're gonna
come to Madrid.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I hope.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
So as you guys know, we'll have a oh gosh,
I gains probably what middle of the season, so that's
we're gonna have a five or six month all at
that time. So we'll see how how that works. But
my wife actually studied it in Madrid or no, was
she in Barcelona. She studied in the Spain somewhere in
college as well as in Germany, so she really wants
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to go back. We wanted to go to the Frankfurt game,
didn't quite work out. We're putting our hopes on this one,
so I hope.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So awesome, Yeah, very much looking forward to that trip.
In general, I know Lee and I are going to
do everything we can to get out there as well.
For I've already booked hotel accommodation across several weekends. Great
that it could possibly be, so that keen to get
a head start and because you know, The demand is
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going to be there, isn't it for not only for
game tickets, but from the UK you're going to have
a big demand on flight costs and then subsequently our
hotel accommodation as well. So anything to get a head
start on that can only be a good thing. I
think that brings us to halftime of the show, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Lee? Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
One position group that you haven't talked about so far
is the quarterbacks, Travis, and I know we all know
that this is a position certainly from QB two is
going to be addressed one way or the other throughout
the off season, into free agency and perhaps the draft.
But I just wanted to talk about some prospects that
will be likely in attendance at Indianapolis out the combine.
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And we're not going to talk about the Wards or
the Sanders of this world, because they're clearly going to
go fairly early and will be not necessarily going to
be in focus for the Dolphins. But certainly there could
be a bunch of quarterbacks who might be in scope
for the Dolphins if they wish to pursue that avenue.
And I just wanted your thoughts on those guys and
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we're talking about the likes of quinn ew As from Texas,
jal Milroe from Alabama, Dylan Gabriel, who's another lefty from Oregon,
I believe, j Jackson Dart from Ole, miss and Cole
McCord from Syracuse. What's your thoughts on those guys and
are there any that you think would be a good
fit for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, there's two names you give me there that stand out,
and I'll give you t more as well from a
list of my own. But starting with Jalen Milrow. He
fascinates me so much because there was a point mid
season excuse me, where he was playing really good anticipatory ball,
you know, layering throws to the second level and then
using his escapability and like Lamar Jackson level legs to
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create with you know, the running game, and I was like,
this guy is going in the top ten the way
he's playing right now.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And then it kind of went the.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Other direction on him in terms of his production, his
ability to throw from the pocket, and then the Senior
Bowl happened and it was like, Oh, this guy might
be further way than we thought he's going to be.
And I still think he winds up getting drafted some
point on Day two just because of the physical skills
being so so darn enticing. But I think that you're
going to have to kind of accept a multiple year
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developmental track with him, I imagine, and maybe you can
use him in some you know, specialized packages as a
running quarterback. But for the most part, I think he's
a couple of years away. Even though his traits really
really intrigued me. He's the kind of guy that if
he goes in the first round, could you know, if
he plays early, could get a coach fired because of that.
But I think if he goes with the right system
in the program and develops and has a chance to learn,
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you know, I think he could really be a beneficial
asset a couple of years down the line. And then
you mentioned Kyle McCord from Syracuse. The anticipatory skill set
that he features is what attracts me the most to
his game. And that's why my next two guys I'll
talk about here I think are interesting in that regard
for one being really good at that and one for
needing a ways to go. And it's kind of like
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the same prism of do I want to draft who
I think has really rare physical traits that could develop
the rest of the game and become this, you know,
Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes type of quarterback. Or do I
focus more on the guy that can play the position
at a high level and you know, comes in with
a high floor and just gives us a quality backup
for a long time. And the guy that checks that
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first box is Tyler Shook from Louisville. He's got you know,
I talk about this all the time in the podcast.
He has that shortstop type of arm where he can
drop it down low and sling the thing and not
in the velocity and has a lot of good touch
and feel for how to place the football from those
arm slots. He can run a little bit, But I
worry that it's you know, he's he's bounced around college football.
He's gonna be the same age as like bow next
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next year, so he's you know, he's he's an old
rookie for sure. But I think that if you're going
to develop a guy and try to get him to
learn to play the position at the NFL level, those
types of skill sets make sense if you have the
patience and when it comes to a day three pick,
you know, put him on the practice squad al os
Kyler Thompson and kind of develop him that way. The
name that I think fits the system the most and
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how we play offense is Minnesota is Max Brosmer. He
is probably the best anticipatory thrower in the entire class.
I think Kyle McCord's right there with him, you know,
outside of cam Ward who is you know, you know
how I feel about cam Ward, But I think Brosmer
is a really good option on day three as a
guy that would fit in this offense, who could potentially,
with a good offseason, win the backup quarterback job. But
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to me, at worst, be that third quarterback on your
roster who gets a year of developmental you know, tutelage
from two from Tua and Daryl Bevill on the entire
offensive staff.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's interesting, like you say, the way you're breaking it
down here is, you know, do you take the risk
of you know, potentially a starting quarterback down the road
or someone who's kind of really in the role of
a backup. And it's the backup that I kind of
want to ask a question about. And it's more if
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you were trying to back up to us specifically, the
rather have someone with a similar trait or would you
rather just have the most talented quarterback? Because it feels
it fell to me a little bit last year like
a closer fit to tour would have given you better results
on offense rather than a guy who is maybe more
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talented than that backup player, not more talented than two.
Obviously that's a separate conversation. Is but do you know
what I mean? I don't think it's a case of, hey, like,
this guy's the most talented quarterback available, so he can
run the system. I don't think it played out that way.
So how you know, how would you find someone whose
game matches more to what two adults? Because it feels
like his traits are so elite that if you match
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that trait, you're probably not available as the backup.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Cool, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
The way you phrase that is perfect because I think
you know, I see that idea all the time, like
the raven should just get the next best running quarterback,
and it's like, okay, well, who is going to be
as good as Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Nobody?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And to your point, if he is, he's going in
the first round. And I think you have to view two.
A's skill set and his traits is the exact same way.
If you're trying to replicate Tua as a processor and
his accuracy and release, good luck, because he is one
of one. When it comes to those three categories put together,
you're just not going to find it. I mean, it's
if if you do, he's the fifth pick in the draft, like,
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it's that's how good you That's how how you go
when you're that good. So to me, I think the
best solution is, to your point, take the best quarterback
and then be amenable to his skill set and his
you know, his his traits that he offers. And that's
easier said than done, because you're that's not just you know,
a one player your impact. You're impacting the other fifty
two guys in the roster and your coaches as well.
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And to you know, tell Tyreek Kill and Jaylen Waddle, heye,
you're used to running these concepts and these routes and
having these side adjustments off of these shifts in motion.
Now we're going to change all that and you need
to play at the same speed with a different offense.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
So it's it's not easy to do.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
It's much easier said than done in both aspects, just
like the first part with replicating two was anticipation and accuracy.
So I think that the best way to do it
is to take the best quarterback and adjust accordingly. But
either way, I mean, it's it's tricky, man. There's a
reason why backup quarterbacks are backup quarterbacks and why you know,
there's not even three two teams that have a QB
one that they love. So I think that if you
(31:39):
can find that, if you can develop that, it's a
great thing to have. That's why, like I was excited
about the idea of like an Andy Dalton because I
think that you know, you're thirty seven years old, he
has seen enough of the league to be able to
play at that level, not at two his level, but
he can anticipate and play, you know, that style of
quarterback play. If you're going after a young quarterback, it's
just not going to be on to his level in
any way. I mean, I mean, Jaden Daniels was a
(32:02):
very rare case. But again, where'd he go in the draft?
Second overall? So you know, if you can find your
brock Prey in the seventh round, that's great, But those
guys also come along like once every twenty years. So
it's it's a really good question. There's not like an
answer for the question. Obviously I say here and stammer
over it for two minutes. But I think that both
things are way harder done than said.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Okay, now I'm gonna ask it in a way simpler way.
I'm going to go to Lamar Jackson route here. Would
you ever just entertain an entertaining going with a lefty
just to match you up? Does that make things easier
from a maybe a processing perspective for the other players
on your fence? Does that kind of like limit the change?
I don't know, I'm asking this is a complete layman,
(32:41):
do you know I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Rather than that, Yeah, I got to me it wouldn't
impact anything that I did if I liked the player, sure,
I know, no problem with that, but it wouldn't impact
like it kind of reminds me we a little bit
of the well he never played under center. And then
Mike Leach had the great quote the old WSU coach
May he rest in peace, saying like, well, if you
can't teach a quarterback how to take a snap from
(33:02):
nder center, you probably shouldn't be coaching, like that's that
is your job to get the player up to speed.
So if we can't figure out how to flip the
offense and flip you know, the strength and the weakness,
like that's on coaching. So like as a scout, I'm
saying tough stuff, you know, and I'm not saying stuff
tough ass as it were, and figured outs at your job.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Love it? No cool? So who with that? You said?
Shold we move on to an interview that came out
over the over social channels last week. It was on YouTube.
I watched it a couple of times, including the afternoon,
because I think it's a great interview. It's also great
(33:42):
to see two players that obviously haven't been in front
of the media for a long time, you know, based
on their injury, which is you know, is unfortunate, because
I think they are both great guys. They come across
really well, they engage, and they seem to give you
great thoughtful aren't. But what was it like talking with
jaman Phllips and Braxton Burius last week about the upcoming DCC.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, to your point, I mean, it's as an interviewer,
it is so nice to get people that just like
can take the torch and go with it, because you know,
you set those guys up for an answer and they
they wound up like there was a talking point we
had that we we had to get in the show.
It was about how all the all the funds do
go towards cancer research, and it was like, Travis, do
not forget to mention that? And then Braxton just rolls
(34:27):
it out like like no problem, like a true pro
that he is. So that part of it is is awesome.
It's always a joy to get players that are that
well like media trained and that good on camera and interviews,
and those guys both definitely fit that mold, which is
a big reason why they're in the position as on
the board of advisors there for the DCC because they
do represent the Dolphins very well in that regard. As
(34:47):
far as like just the two guys man like to
your point, like they are just really down to earth individuals,
guys that I can you know, I'll talk to Braxton
about his golf game when I'm getting coffee, I'll talk
to Jp about anything.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
He's just like a guy that I I can wrap
about life with.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
He's He's that type of person, So talking to both
those guys, getting him on the show was a no brainer.
And then the way they delivered information about this event,
which is, you know, the greatest fundraiser event in the
National Football League, Like it's really special what this organization
does and the off the field pursuits and all the
things they're attached to. I think those two guys to
represent that as well as anybody else. And so to
(35:22):
have him on the show, I wanted to ask him
about football, but we were trying to keep more to DCC.
Maybe next time I'll get some more football talking there.
But yeah, they were great subjects and just made my
job very, very easy.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So of course, the DCC event is this coming Saturday,
twenty second of February, I believe, and he plans for
the Wingfields to take part in the event as well.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Well.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Luckily, the Dolphins do a good job of making sure
I don't have to do any training or get my
body in any kind of shape because I do radio.
During the show, we have you know, like the we'll
have a doctor from Sylvester Ron, We'll have Liz Jenkins,
who's the head of the DCC board, you know, the
late wife of the great Jason Jenkins. I think JP
schedules start by as well, so we have all kinds
(36:04):
of stuff we're doing during the during the event that
will be broadcast in the radio, so I get a
pass on the physical exertion of the whole event.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Amazing, And of course that's coming up this Saturday. And
I think you mentioned that they've hit their target. Was
it fifteen million dollars raised these year? That is just incredible.
Let you say the impact that that has, so yeah,
I mean they deserve all the props for that. I
(36:35):
don't know what to say, so I don't really know
where it was going off, So i'd be said, I
think that kind of brings us to a close. I
think I'm going to throw in a slight curveball and say, Travis,
is there any chance that we can talk to you
after free agency and revisit this conversation because they think
(36:56):
that's going to narrow the focus quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, and I'll have two more months of college tape
in the uh in the arsenal as it were, so
i'd be happy.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
To How do you like to watch college tape? Sorry,
this is I always find if I'm watching college tape
that I don't get through enough because I have to
watch full games because I enjoy watching the the flow
of momentum that I find difficult to watch in maybe
in highlight films or strip down forty minute versions, like
(37:26):
because you know, there's elements that are being taken out
and I really want to feel like, hey, if if
the game has swung in the other teams table rode,
what is the reaction of the players and and how
so how do you like to kind of consume that content.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So I'm going to give you an answer that is
not great for the listener because it's access that they
don't have. But I really like to watch cutups like
you can you can find cutups of a guy, all
of his pressures, all of his targets, all of his
you know, past attempts beyond ten yards. I like to
watch cutups of specific things I'm looking for and then
(38:00):
go watch like one or two four games. And to
your point, like, it's not a broadcast, it's on the tape,
so the situational thing is on you, the evaluator, to make.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Sure you get the clock.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
They'll show you the clock and the scoreboard before they
cut to the play. So it's on YouTube pick up
what the situation of the game is and score and
all that stuff. But yeah, I like to watch specific
cutups with like one or two games. They give me
a pretty good idea of how that player plays.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That's okay.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Just before we draw to a close, Travis just wanted
to see if you could share with the listeners any
plans you have for the Drive Time Show and Dolphins HQ.
What plans have you got coming up in the next
couple of months to cover like the combine and then
free agency and then the draft. Anything in the pipeline
that you're willing to share right now.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, definitely. It's one of my favorite times a year
as far as content goes. I always say events where
you can't lose a football game are the best because
you can just kind of be optimistic about it and
find wins, right, And that's what every player signing, every
draft pick is, as well as training camp. What you
guys know, I love that time of year too. But
we'll have the free agents, we'll roll through here and
(39:08):
we'll do the Draft Time podcast for a brief interview.
I'm sure we'll go ahead and repurpose a couple of
those for the HQ show as well. I'll do some
some film breakdowns of the free agents on HQ and
just kind of try to give fans a perspective of
what these players that we get in here offer for
the team, for the scheme, and just kind of how
they rolled in terms of who they are as people too.
So one of my favorite times a year getting to
(39:29):
know a new crop of guys, develop new relationships, and
watch a lot of film man's that's the time of
year is in the film room, which is where I
am my best.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Love that. So I think with that being said, we're
going to draw this to a close somehow. We always
go into these shows thinking how are we going to
make a show out of the few questions written down?
But I think we always come to the conclusion that
once you get going, we could talk about a Dolphins
all night. If we had two, there'd be be the best.
So Joe, thank you so much for joining us. We
(39:58):
really appreciate you giving up your time to join, as
we know it's not always easy with the time difference,
so we appreciate it. We love everything you do with
a drive time. And then might say I think Dolphin's
HQ has been an absolutely amazing. Addition to the content
that goes out, I'd like to be able to watch
it on TV at home, so you know, with a
smart TV, you get you on the full screen rather
than mobile content. And when I'm driving, I think it's
(40:20):
a nice nice break from just the audio.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Yeah, I'm with you, man. My kids love it too.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Very time I put on the TV, it's like, oh,
there's Daddy and like sometimes because it's on CBS down
here in Miami, so when it pops up there, I'll
make sure to click on, like, hey, who's that and
they love it. So appreciate the kind words. Always happy
to do the show with you guys. I appreciate you
having me on and hopefully we'll see you in Madrid this.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Year, So I thank you for joining me again. Don't
forget to check out the Dolphins social channels across all
the normal social platforms. Obviously check out the Drivetime podcast
with Travis Dolphins HQ. Don't forget to check out Fish
Tank as well, and we will be back very
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