Draft Season | Eric Galko & Draft Order Discussions

John Schmeelk and Tony Pauline are joined by Eric Galko, Director of Players Ops at the Shrine Bowl. They discuss the top prospects at each position heading to the Shrine Bowl and talk about the NFL Draft order.

:00 - Quarterbacks

11:39 - Running backs

12:54 - Wide receivers

17:47 - Tight ends

20:19 - Offensive line

24:23 - Defensive line

25:33 - Linebackers

29:58 - Defensive backs

35:53 - NFL Draft order

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's now officially open. This is Draft season.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
John Shplt Tony Pauline with you. The NFL regular season
is over. Welcome to Draft Season, brought to you by Moody's,
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us today is the man who runs the show down
at the Shrine Bowl, the one and only friend of
the program, Eric Galco.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Eric, thanks for being with us today. Man, How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm doing great? Guys? How are you guys doing?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
We're great?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
So let's start here, second year of the process where
you don't have to be a senior, right, anybody can
go play in these games. How has it been trying
to get commitments? We're still on the zone here now.
This is gonna air on Wednesday this week. We're recording
on Monday. Guys can still kind of dip their fee
in the water and pull out with commitments.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
And stuff like that. How was the process gone this
year for you?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
No, it's awesome. I think I said last we talking
about this, and I've told the NFL League office this
and agents. Is that the benefit of this rule It's
not just so All Star Games can have juniors, but
that juniors and their agents and their teams can get
more information. Right, if a junior is like, hey, you
know what, you know our staff and our scouting team,
other All Star games and their scouting team, NFL feedback
is not saying this guy should be invited, or more importantly,

(01:15):
we can kind of convey the information as to why
they've not been invited. They can really help underclass to
make decisions. So I'm trying to be as big of
a player radvoc as I can be and giving players
information to advocate for them to make sure they know
what they're getting into if they come out for the
draft has been awesome. So we've got a bunch of
juniors that'll be at the trin And Bowl this year.
I'm sure they've All Star Games will as well. And
it's been great to kind of give information back.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
And how about the class in general? A lot of
people talking about this being an extremely deep class. Eric
Beans again, all the COVID year guys that all got
the bonus year and all that stuff, they're in the
class this year. Have you found this has been a
much deeper pool of talent to choose from when you're
trying to get guys that commit to your game.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, I think it's been at some positions, for sure.
I think some spots are a little bit leaner. And again,
for every time we have a COVID guy, we have
guys that can get a surprising year of villige ability
or now thanks to Diego Pave, a lot of guys
can go back because of that. So we'll always find
way to get guys who back to school, which is great.
These guys having options, you know, we forget so quickly.
Seven years ago, guys were declaring for the draft because
of a money need, and now that's not long in

(02:12):
the case, which is awesome. So it creates a lot
of headaches for people like myself in the All Star
Games space and NFL teams, but it's worth a headache
to have these guys have options. But I would say overall,
it's definitely deeper than last year. I think more so.
When I think of deeper, I don't think of number
of draftable players because that differs team the team, and
that's subjective. I think there's more guys NFL teams would
love to have in their camp, and that's kind of

(02:34):
makes it challenging for us to figure out who are
the best twenty fifty five guys in this draft class?
Is really difficult because there may be last year they
may have been three or fifty guys to choose from.
This year, there's five hundred guys to choose from to
fill those two fifty five spotsay.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Tony mc grek, Let's talk about the quarterbacks. You know,
I go back to the days when players like David
Carr and Joey Harrington played in the Shrine Bowl. You
got probably the top quarterback in the class this year,
ainshad Door Sanders. That's going to be at your game.
Why don't you talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
He's a good player. He's a good player. We're hoping
he's the first first overall pick quarterback from the Shrine
Bowls since John Elway. I think that's my history is
right there. But he's a he had an incredible college career,
and I think a couple of things on shure that
people maybe don't know. People know the player on the
field in the talent I think a little bit. Number one,
he is incredibly selfless. I got you to spend some
time at Colorado and with him a little bit with

(03:25):
the coaching staff, and to see him on the practice field.
I think every GM and scout that's been there sees
how he works with his receivers, works his backup quarterback,
how he prepares when he's on the field and off
the field. I think is really underappreciated about him. I
think his loyalty and confidence with his team is great.
Big reason why he was really excited to come to
the Shrine bul is that he's got other teammates going

(03:45):
to be there as well. Right, he really is about
family and about teammates, which a lot of guys say.
I think Shudder has done and shown right stay in
school a year ago, played in the bowl game, coming
to the Trianble with his teammates, I think it's really
says a lot about him. And I think if you're
a team looking for a franchise quarterback, we can debate
the on field stuff and that's all subjective, but you
can't question his toughness. You can't question as loyalty, you
can't question how the fact that he leads his teammates

(04:07):
and now he's done to his entire college career, he's
okay with being uncomfortable Jackson State dealing with pressure early
on at Colorado. Like maybe you know he's been very
public as he's been a well known person for four years.
But again he's someone that is beloved by his teammates
there and his coaches, not just his dad, but also
the entire coaching staff. I think people are going to
really fall in love with him the more they get
to meet him in the draft press starting at the Trinable.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Now, I'm curious, and you kind of answered this already, Aric,
but I want to dig into it a little bit
deeper because I think there are some people because he's
Dion's Sun and everything that goes along with that. Think
you know, there might be a lot of outside noise
that goes along with drafting Shad or Sanders, right, everything
that comes along with that. And I know you already
addressed some of this, but just dealing with him and
his dad in this process they get them to commit

(04:48):
and you know, including them and figuring out the participation
in the game. How has that process dealing with them
been like for you to get them to your game
and working with them to have them at.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Your game, It's been awesome because it's not like it
was a recruitment or anything either. I think they are. Again,
I know there's such a public family that it's very
easy to be like, oh, I think I know who
they are. And again, I've gone a chance to deal
with coach Sanders since even before the Shrine Bowl, and
I've always seen him as somebody who really cares about
his players and really cares about what matters. And it's
very thoughtful and very critical. And it was a discussion.

(05:19):
That discussion said yep, he's gonna go, and we're gonna
be there and we're going to practice the Shrine Bowl.
And they weighed the pros and cons. It wasn't a recruitment,
it wasn't a persuasion. It was a here's the details,
what do we think? And I think they're again also
credit to Shader, very pragmatic, very thoughtful, which I think
is really rare for quarterbacks coming into the league. And
you talk about, you know, his dad being almost you know,
sometimes a negative like we forget that, like, hey, Steph

(05:40):
Curry is great because his dad was del Curry had
played in the league for a long time, like he
learned all these shortcuts before he got to the league.
And same thing for Shadur. He's gonna walk in day one.
He's going to have his dad in a huge role
attack as well as seeing it up close. Hey, how
should I handle teammates? Hey, I'm not playing with what
should I do? A lot of young quarterbacks we're seeing
guys this year, like Caleb had to figure that out
a little bit, and Dre May navigating being a backup

(06:01):
like Shadur can not only have seen it with his dad,
but all who ask people in the NFL that he
saw his dad play with so I got I think
the benefit of his dad being in the NFL was
almost underappreciated because of who his dad is. But Chare's
going to walk in with a huge advantage over anybody
else in this draft left because of his dad's experiences
and how he's learned from them.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
You know, everyone's gonna be talking about Shador Sanders, but
one quarterback I'm really excited to see play at the
shrineballs Kyle McCord. Yeah, who's coming off a tremendous year
at Syracuse. I mean, he struggled at twenty twenty three
at Ohio State and watched all those games, but he
really you know, He's got a lot of momentum going
in his direction after a terrific season with the Orange,

(06:39):
and it's just some incredible production.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, I don't know who is going to be in
this draft class entirely, yet a lot of guys still
make a decisions under classmen et cetera too. But you
know there's a scenario where Kyle is a discussion to
be third fourth quarterback off the board. I mean, that's
how teams really view him right now. Part that's because
the classes not have Cayleb Williams, Drake May, Jade and
Daniels in his class, but also because that he's got

(07:02):
all the physical traits you'd want. And again, similar to
what I've learned, especially in this job and seeing which
guys have success and which guys maybe be struggle in
the NFL, the guys who have been through adversity in college,
real adversity, Guys like brock Perty whose worst college season
was his senior season and he really struggled and he
able to learn from that and get better. Like those guys,
Kyle has already been through getting bench getting cut in

(07:23):
the NFL right or traded in the NFL, like he's
already been through that mental process and came out the
other side clean and really successful at Syracuse and had
a tough game early in the year against pitt and
bounced back in a great way and beat Miami when
accounted and they were down twenty one to nothing in
that game at halftime. I think it was right. So like,
he's already shown so much resilience. That's one of the
most important traits in a quarterback. His teammates love him

(07:44):
at SIRA because again, all the off field stuff really
does matter when you're Kyle mccorden. Have the athletic ability,
the mobility, the downfield touch, the ability to make play
from the pocket, the ability to be a gun slinger
and be aggressive, which he definitely is. Again, I'm a
big calm of Court fan. We invited him early. I
think I wanted the entire season. I believed in the
first couple of games at Syracuse. But I think to
your point, Tony, people maybe not talk about him in

(08:04):
the right light right now, is that I think there's
a really a world where teams say, hey, you know
what we're going to go. You know, we might take
Travis Hunter at one, two or three, and maybe Kyle's
our guy in round two, and hey, a year ago
at this time, Tony, you know as well as I do,
people weren't sure Bone Knicks or Michael Pennox were first
round picks. Some people thought they might be, but they didn't.
And this year we've got two consensus quarterbacks, a couple
other good ones, and we'll see who else rise in

(08:26):
the process.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, I want to follow up on your quarterback point
real quick, Eric, and then Antoni has two more quarterbacks
he wants to touch on. How much consensus do you
think there is on this year's quarterback class talking to
people around the league.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Do you feel like.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
There's going to be very diverse opinions, not even just
how they're stacked, but where they belong in terms of
round and great and stuff like that. Do you find
that there's a consensus on this group of quarterbacks? Do
you find it's very diverse going from team to team,
from evaluator to evaluator.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
It feels like the tiers are a little bit developed
and you can kind of jump up a tier, but
it feels like, hey, Cam and schaudor are kind of
in one tier together, right, and then maybe other guys
that maybe in this class joined them as well too.
But then the real question is I think going into
this process without these teams haven't talked to these quarterbacks
and really head coaches being involved in a big way,
which what happened to Sean Payton and bow Nicks where

(09:13):
I got involved was like, Wow, this guy checks a
lot of boxes. I like, like, that hasn't really happened yet.
And I think also there's not Last year there was
three guys that were going to go one two three
or one two four whatever else, and teams like Jajon
McCarthy coming in the process and then Bo and Michael
Pennix rose in the process. Right like this year, we
don't have four or five guys in that mix right
now to NFL teams, but more than two teams. The

(09:35):
quarterbacks in this draft class pretty bad. And that's what
I'm excited about seeing is that there's a lot of tears,
but I will see we will see one or two guys,
and McCord being one of those guys and kind of
that below Cam and Schador Tier that if he jumped
up wouldn't be shocking. Really. I know it's crazy to
sound like right now, but but when you have all
the physical traits, and you've overcome adversus like he has,
and you've got the talent. More than two teams eat quarterbacks.

(09:55):
I would say the over runner is probably three and
a half on quarterbacks in this first round this year.
And I'm not sure who number three and umber four are.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
You know one guy we won't be seeing at least
on the field. And I'm a bit disappointed. Who had
a great year, which Curtis Charker of Indiana, I mean,
really helped lead that team comes out. He's got he
played with a torn torn knee ligament. And you also
have Mark Gronkowski on the roster. Is Gronkowski going to participate?
Has there been any final decision made yet?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
You know, I'll start with Gronowski. I don't know as
of just taping right when this comes down on Wednesday,
maybe we know more. Mark's a great player and he's
won a heck of a lot of games. In South
Goota State, we've been a big fan of Mark for
a long time. One of his good friends is Mabson McCormick.
When the Trim Bowl year goes, we've bought about Mark
for the last thirteen fourteen months, I think if he's
in this year's draft class, he's a slam dunk draft

(10:44):
pick and a guy teams will say, hey, this guy can,
at worse be a great backup for us and has
all the traits that develop into more. But the benefit
of NIL now is you can go to school, go
back to school and do well financially, but also you know,
maybe do one or two more things and get better too.
So Mark, I talked to Mark about this, and I've
given my opinion. I want what's best for him. He'll
be at the Trin Bowl next year if not this year,

(11:04):
right so, but I think he has a lot of
decisions to make here soon too. But he's he's a
heck of a player, and I think he'll be a
great NFL player this year, on next year, and then
on Curtis Rourke. Huge disappointment, abutment. I talked to his
agent and Curtis the night before kind of the news broke,
and really tough what he's kind of going through now,
and expectations he'll be ready to go for training camp.
So any team drafting him, hey, he may miss Mini camp,

(11:25):
but he'll be good to go when they get there
in July. Which is most important. And you know, I
think Curtis had a really good chance to be kind
of in that like, could he jump some tears up?
A lot of similarities to Aidan O'Connell as a player,
but the fact that he played the full season with
the torn needland as you mentioned, and didn't really realize
it or kind of played through it again shows the toughness,
but also the fact that he was willing to play

(11:46):
for his team despite all of that. And I think
he has a really good chance to be drafted.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Still, there are downbacks. You know, you were deciding before
the show began whether to put you Delaware head on,
and I had Markis charms down because I wanted to
speak about him and coming into this, coming into the
across over the summer, you know, I looked at this guy, said,
this guy is just a sensational third down back, situational
ball carry, whatever you want to call him. I know

(12:09):
he saw he struggled with some injuries this year. Is
he fully healthy and what are you expecting from him
in a couple of weeks?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, fully healthy. And one of the challenges of being
a guy at a smaller school like that is that
he was a big part of the offense, so every
team was still trying to kind of keep him under
control during the season at Delaware, and of course the
injuries kind of made a little bit difficult to be
one hundred percent the whole week long. But I think
you're absolutely right, Tony. He is viewed by NFL teams
as one of the best pass catching running backs in
this year's draft. Lass he's going to test hopefully in

(12:35):
the fourth threes. Knock on wood that he can get there.
They'll be at the combine. Of course, he's shown the
ability to catch out of the backfield on swing routes.
I think he can line up in the slot. We
get the trinbal with well the show teams can be
really versatile. But no doubt he's one of the best guys.
And I will say as a Delaware alum, you know,
I want to have a good process and talk with
our staff, but I was really hoping we get the
Marcus Yarns, And when he was our guy our staff approved,
I was like, let's go. So heck of a player

(12:56):
and we've got two blue ends on the office this
year at Marcus has a great chance and I want
to be a draft pick, but be one of those
early contributors as a third down player in the NFL.
In this rookie running back class, all.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Right, I I was gonna say when I looked at
the invitations accepted invitation so far, I looked at the
receiver class and I said, Wow, this is one.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
This is, in my opinion, probably the best position group
at the Shrine ball. I mean, you guy, you got
some outstanding players, uh you know, not top end of
round one guys, but players that are going to be
Day two, day three picks and make a roster. And
I want to start with the Colorado guys because you
talk about Colorado receivers. Everybody says Travis Hunter and they
don't know about anyone else. But you got Jhontay Webster,

(13:35):
who's the speechter. You got Will Sheppard, terrific possession receiver
who came over from Vanderbilt. I mean he is a
guy who just consistently wins out for the contested pass.
Jimmy Horn a smaller guy but very quick, does a
little bit of everything. Well. I mean, these three guys
are legitimate next level talent that few people talk about
because everyone's focused on Travis Hunter.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
One hundred percent, and I think it's It's been one
of the deepest receiver rooms in the country this year,
and it's a credit to Dear kind of spreading the
ball around. But I'll work backwards. Jimmy Horn Junior will
challenge been one of the fast guys of the combine
this year. I mean one of three or four guys
who can absolutely crack four two. I think he has
a good chance to do that. I know he pretested
a training facility in the four threes. That's without enough training.

(14:15):
He's already in the four to threes, So getting to
four to us receivers pretty rare. Will Sheppard great position
guy at Vanderbilt. I think he can play outside. He
could play a big slot role. What he grew the
most at Colorado. He is an outstanding run blocker and
after the catch blocker as well too. So with Wester
running these bubble screens or Jimmy Horn un reverses or
having run back on the backfield, Shepherd's gonna be guy

(14:36):
can block at a high level. And then Western is
one of the most talented kind of individual matchup receivers
this entire draft class out of the slot, and I
think He's one of the hardest to tackle receivers in
this class. I know teams with top hundred raids on
him because they know, hey, this guy's in your offense.
He's going to make so many guys miss on jet sweeps,
on quick throws, on deeper vertical plays as well too.
Not to mention that of that receiver of Colorado along

(14:57):
with Travis, he was really the leader to You're getting galvanizing,
big personality leader who can really make a lot of plays.
I think all three of those guys, as well as
Travis Hunter will be draft picks this year, and all
of those guys should play well with the shrine Bol
this year.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
What you'd do or two receivers at Tony and I
were very excited heading into the year are on your
list Trey Harrison, Sam Brown that we thought could be
really talented and have a chance to challenge to be
high draft picks.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
What have you seen from them on tape.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
This year and what's the excitement love you gotten from
teams and expectations for those two guys shrine Bol week.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, Sam Brown had a slower start. He got he
was a little hurt and had to navigate being a
transfer at Miami and kind of Solick came on as
the year went along, but Big Long really athletic. He's
going to be an a special teams player for NFL
teams and really really developed this year at Miami and
being more of a complete outside guy in Miami, probably
along with Colorado, two of the deepest receiver rooms in
the country. I think Sam Brown alone as a special

(15:47):
teams guy is a slam dung draft pick an NFL player.
Betting the Shrine Bowlwick will show a lot more that
he can play on the outside consistently and be a
full time guy. I think he's not only a draft pick,
but he might test his way into being a top three,
top four round player. And who else you mentioned, I
know Trey Harris. Trey Harris one of the better receivers
in this year's raft class in my opinion. He's the

(16:07):
vertical ability has been documented. He's got such great laid
hands and finishing poll on the sidelines and the red zone,
and I think he could be a complete downfield guy.
He's in that test, but people maybe expect as well too.
And I think he's a chance to be a starting
level X or Z receiver in the NFL tomorrow. So
you mentioned Tony may not be a first round pick.
I would say Trey Harris is going to have a
lot opportunity to be there in this raft process because
he's so smart and well liked by NFL personnel coming

(16:29):
in the process, and he's as safe a receiver as
or is in this year's raft class.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
And he has good size too, by the way, which
I know teams value too.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Final receiver I want to talk about, and a guy
that I'm a static he's going to be at the shrineball,
Nick Nash of San Jose State. I mean, the guy
whose production was just off the charts, showed a lot
of development in his game. Not the fastest guy, but
someone who knows how to separate, someone who knows how
to get open and catches everything that's thrown in his direction.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
The Triple Crown winner. Yeah, production, it's hard to argue with.
And I know some debate about that in terms of
you know, as that matter. I think you know, every
Bolittannikov finalist has been drafted by US two in the
last twenty years. For what it's worth. When NFL teams
are maybe can be locked in on trades sometimes when
the guy produces that much in the way he's done it.
To keep mind, he's a former quarterbacks. He's not like
been playing receiver for you know, ten years. He's adjusted

(17:16):
the position and within two or three years he led
the country and receiving yards and receptions and touchdowns. So
I think his his size is undeniable. They abible to
win the red zones, really impressive. The ball skills are there,
but I think people kind of lose track of little
but is that he's still getting better as a receiver.
He is not a maxed out six year player at receiver.
He is still as sending as a talent. I think
if and when he tests well at the NFL combine,

(17:38):
he's going to go from being a fun, productive late
round pick to a guy team for saying, well, why
can't he be Phuku Nakuwa, Like why are we waiting
on this guy? He's produced, he's big, he's strong, he's
going to test pretty well, Like, okay, why is this
guy not going much much earlier? Too? So I think
despite him producing as much as he did, I thank
people are still sleeping on Nick Nash. I'm glad you're
not Tony. That's why you're one of the.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Best of his are you?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
You talked about guys having options, right, I think one
of those guys is tied to Eli Stowers, who seems
to be contemplating a potential big and an IL deal
from Vanderbilt. He's on your list. Do you have anything
with the latest on him? Is he decides how he
wants to navigate his NFL future?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
No news? I mean, hey, one thing's unsurprising is he's
a smart guy right at Vanderbilt. He knows what he's
doing and he wants to think by the process pretty
close to as well to Eli was going to be
I think a top Hunter pick this year if he
comes out. He's one of the better athletes. He has
a lot of similarities honestly to David Njoku. So I'm
not sure what his ceiling is going to be too.
But he's weighing a lot of things. I won't try
all the detail, super he's weighing a lot of things
that make a lot of sense. I think everyone knew

(18:34):
kind of what I think if everyone knew what these
guys were really thinking about from an ANIL perspective, not
just dollars, but what's going on in their lives and
other things are looking to do after football or during
football makes a lot more sense to so Eli's a
heck of a tied time. We love to have miser
at the shrine Bolt, but I think he make decisions
here pretty soon.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Two tight ends that we're going to see, both coming
off of injury. One guy thought took a massive improvement
this year, Rondi Goatson of Syrahcuse and then Liche of Iowa,
which has been a tight end producing factory for the
NFL for more than a decade.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, Luke's gotten a little bit forgotten about because I
think two years ago in last year, he was like, oh,
it's got gonna be an obvious top tight end in
the draft class. And I think the injury kind of
limit him a little bit and coming back from it,
but I think he's fully back and I think he
is a guy that's going to be a plug and
play white tight end. Maybe not Sam Laporta, but you're
telling me that Luke Lache is a starting tight end
for somebody week five, week six in the NFL. I
won't be surprised. He's a plug and play smart, can

(19:27):
block well, can play in space, can be a vertical
receiver who works in the perimeter too. When now that
he's back to one hundred percent, he's a heck of
a player, Tony, And that's a great called by you.
I think Gaston early on it was kind of like
is he a tight end or is he just kind
of just playing there a little bit? But he's really
taken an effort, especially the second half of this year,
to be a great blocker, And I think the second
half of the year he's given really a great effort

(19:48):
as a blocker, both that receiver and playing more in line.
He can add the weight to be a tight end,
for sure, but man, the second half of when Syracuse
needed a big play or a red zone target, like
they just said, Aronde go out there plays. I think
if you watch the second half of the season for
Erande gas and at Syracuse, and then you watch Mikeyasiki
this year how the Bengals use them, it's the same thing,

(20:08):
right they are saying, Hey, Mike, go one a one
on one matchup. You're bigger, stronger, and still fluid at
the catchpoint to make it play in the red zone
or on third down. I think there's a lot of
similarities there too, And again, as long as Gatston tests
well wait the way he should, I think people will
help be underrating how early in the draft he can go,
because if he truly isn't Mike AA Sicky type of player,
every NFL team's gonna want that matchup guy at tight
end slash receiver in the red zone this season.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Jump to the offensive line. Two small school guys, Thomas
Perry of Middlebury who was on Bruce Felbin's Freak Freaseless
before the season, and Gareth Warren from Lindenwood, who I'm
told is an athletic freak himself. Six ' five and
change three hundred and thirty pounds could run in the
four nine to forty what weeks Beck From both of
these guys.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, Thomas Perry is physically strong and really impressive in
that way. He's streaming with Duke many Weather has for
last year, and I think you can talk to Duke
as well too and say, hey, Duke's not shy about it.
He believes Thomas Perry is going to be a very
similar to like an Alien Marpette type player. And we're
bullish on Thomas. He made huge drides, you know, One
of that matters a lot and watching small school players
is not only do they dominate the film, but when

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you watch the year before to the next year, are
they ascending in a really like exponential way. And you
watch his junior stuff versus senior stuff, and you see
Thomas Ferry is getting way better every year. I think
between the fact that he's athletic, super strong, has the
length to play guard and center, and in fact he's
gotten better every year, I think he's a draft pick
and also a guy teams are saying, we don't want
to mess with the next Alany Marpett. I think for

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Gareth Warren, I won't real kind of what the numbers are,
but I saw some of his numbers when he got
to training early on because they're seen in early and
I had to verify with like three other people to
make sure that this was right and these numbers were correct.
I think he is going to be as a chance
to be one of the most athletic offensive tackles in
the last couple of years, and I think I know
can't leave Platt at relative athletics wo or Ras like

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I would be surprised if Gareth Warren is not a
ninety nine percent tile offensive line this year's draft class.
That's why we invite him. We believe me athletic trades. Again,
he's getting better as well too, So good call by
Tony And again I think Warren, based on some of
the stuff he's on so far, testing wise, if it
went at the NFL combine, he's going to really be
one of the biggest naps to learn in late February
early March.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know, so you talk about athletic linemen who have improved,
and I'll set it up like this, last year, CJ.
Hansen had a real good week of practice at your game.
He's now on the active roster for the Chiefs. His
former teammate at holy Cross Luke Newman, transferred to Michigan State.
And I mean you talk about a zone blocking guard,
you talk about a guy that can get out on
a second level pull across the line of scrimmage. I

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mean Newman to me, showed improvement this year at a
much higher level of competition.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, I mean he's a great mover. I think I
took up the holy Cross on when he played left
tackle that he can really move in space at a
high level, can work laterally left him too is right
as well too, and I think he's shown that at
Michigan State playing obviously more inside the fact that he
can move at a really special level as a zone blocker.
I think early on at Michigan State. Keep mind, he
had a kind of got there finishing up the spring
season and spring degree at holy Cross kind of got

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to Michigan State a little bit. But again, the second
half of the season with most of these transfers, really
what you want to look at. And I think for
Luke Newman showed the ability to win with power but
also continue to win in space. I think for zone
blocking teams and teams want to get him out in
space a little bit more. He's going to be a
really really covered offensive lineman. And again I think I
have looked at too many people in the media and
kind of where they have players as well too. But
don't be surprised if Luke Newman is one of the

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higher ranked guards by a lot of NFL teams coming
into the draft process because he's going to test well.
But the movements there on film that's really really hard
to find for our guard, slash tackle, slash center. He
could play all three well.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
One last offensive lineman for me. In contrast to newman
Nash Jones of Texas State, who really wasn't on the
roster on the scouting radar before the season, I wasn't
spoken about. I mean, here's a guy who looks like
in an NFL offensive line, a big, thick lower body.
I mean, just dominates opponents at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I guess talk about Nash Jones. I'll credit our director
of College down and Shane Coughlin, because a year ago
we invited Nash Jones a year ago before anybe else
real knew aboutim, but we were bullished on him as a
player a year ago. He's made great rides but physically imposing,
physically impressive high football IQ. Talking to as head coach GJ. Kenny,
the last two years he's made strides there. If he
can't play center, that's okay. He can really be a

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high football IQ guard, tackle, convert, but really really impressive.
I think short area movement, really tackle a handle defensive
tackles that are much bigger than him, guys that are
three sixty three seventy at the NFL level. He'll handle
with pretty good control. And also we can get out
in space as he's played tackleles Kylaker as well too,
So we've been a fan of Mashones for two years
now and again grand to our skuting staff are being
bullish on a Texas State guy a year for NFL

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teams know about him, but no doubt he's activate player.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
We'll move to the defensive side of the ball. You've
got to zero technique those tackle types. If you'd like
Jordan Phillips Maryland, who I believe is a red shirt sophomore,
and CJ. West, the Kent State transfer who played in
Indiana this year and had a terrific season. I mean,
both of these guys are just nasty, punch in the face,
do the little things right type of defensive tackles.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, I think both those guys have a great chance
to be top hundred picks. It's hard to find guys
that are big as that that can move, that have
had successful productive seasons, you know, not necessarily sacks, but
also pressures and just generating impact on the quarterback. But
also talking to both those guys really really high character
and really smart guys, like you can tell pretty quickly
finding guys that big, who can move that well, who

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can process the way they can. I think both those
guys will rise to the top hundred picks, and no
doubt they have some similarities. I think cj can be
a little more effective as a penetrator. I think Jordan
eats up space at a really, really high level for
a guy that big. But both those guys are highly,
highly viewed by NFL teams and they'll be hotly fought
after on draft weekend because I think after a good
Shrine Bowl week and then again at the NFL combine,
I think both those guys have a great chance and

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only be top hundred picks, but guys that are coveted
quite a bit when the second third round comes around.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Everybody loves the small edge rushers, and when you talk
about draft Twitter world, they talk and talk about small
edge rushers, to talk about Donovan Ezekie Ruka of Boston
College and Kyle Kinnard of South Carolina. Yet somehow Antoine
Ryland Powell is often left out of the conversation. This
is a guy with twenty sixteen sacks and twenty tackles

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for the loss, and when you put on the Virginia
Tech tape, all this guy does is recavoc behind the
opponent's line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, he's a classic example of the use of bullet
of china shop like. He is always active in the backfield,
making I think his offensive line in front of him
really uncomftable the entire time. And sometimes when guys have
a lot of production, and you know your scouts or
meilss not not a huge fan of him, you wonder,
all right, some of those sacks kind of empty sacks, right, Hey,
do he kind of just clean up five or six
of those? Maybe one or two, but all those are

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really earned to your point, And there's a world where
he's got twenty sacks. The way he gets pressure on
the quarterback and wave forced quarterback to make plays and
decisions early too, when we kind of forget sometimes that, hey,
a sack only comes when a guy is not throwing
the ball away or getting the ball out quicker too.
And I think if you look at his pressures, him
and Elijah Roberts, other player of the trine ball this
year too leave the country and pressure is forced. So
I think overall, more activity in the backfield is going

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to lead to a lot more success in the NFL.
And I know Paul Ryland is not the biggest guy,
but again to your point, Tony, no doubt he's going
to get drap to no doubt playing the NFL in summersfects.
But again, don't be surprised if he's a fourth fifth
round pick that's playing in a rotation early on its
NFL career.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Three linebackers will talk about it, and they're all different
in their styles. Aaron Smith of South Carolina State, a
smaller one gap running chase pursuit minebacker who just he
may be small in stature, but he plays with a
nasty attitude.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Super tough, can play in the box at really high level.
It's gotten better as a coverage guy vertically and on
the perimeer, which I think is really really important too.
But he'll be a guy that can handle the green
dot the NFL level. NFL teams want to know that
at the Trine Bowl, in our interview process and during practice.
But I think if he can prove, which I'm sure
he will, it is the NFL teams he can be
that Mike linebacker and where that green dot and has
the range to play in space and vertically to be

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one of the higher HBCU players draft, not just this year,
but in the last couple of years. And I think
as right now he's our only HBCU college player so far,
but he's seen the represent it well and he'll be
not only a draft pick, but a guy NFL teams
are covering on draft weekend, if not Day two, early
Day three, because like you said, Tony, he's he's a guy.
NFL team still want it. They can be long into
play in space, but really be a thumper on the inside.
Those guys are harder.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I know.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Yeah, guy transferred from Georgia to Kentucky, Jamis Dumas Johnson,
who I thought, if he entered the draft last year,
would have been a top one hundred pick. I mean,
he's bigger, he's stouter, he's toughest.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Nails didn't get worse, right, guys don't get worse usually.
I think you're absolutely right, Tony. He's a guy that
is a plug and play I think in a three
four defense inside linebacker he plays tomorrow. He could do
more than that, but I think he's a plug and
play starter in the NFL, and NFL teams are devaluing linebackers,
maybe more aggressively than running backs. In the draft process
the last couple of years, and especially guys that are
more considered first second down guys early on their career.

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Doomus Johnson can do more than that, but I think
right now, short term, that's what he's best at. But
to your point, Tony, you want an NFL starter as
a linebacker, inside guy in a three to four or
maybe a mic a four to three. He's gonna start
for you tomorrow in the NFL. I think no doubt
about that win a year ago. He's only gotten better
at Kentucky and he's gonna be a kip A player.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
And another guy who kind of is very often not
mentioned at all, Jay Higgins of Iaiowa. Not the biggest guy,
not the fastest guy, but I mean his instincts, he's
thinking white years ahead of everyone else on the field.
Well does it have mental lapses? And he's always willing
to throw his body into the affraid to make the tackle.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah ninety nine on n see Football twenty twenty five.
I've been to one of the highest ranked players in
the game, backs to where those scouts. I like those scouts.
They do a great job. But talk about a green
doc guy talking to Ja a couple of times, and
personality is going to be affusive for NFL teams and
seeing what he's like. But again, in terms of football,
IQ Tony like he is. It's cliche to say quarterback
of the defense, but I think a lot of our

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guys can be green dock guys to the trin Bol
this year. I think NFL teams will leave the process
saying I am positive Jay Higgins can lead our defense
tomorrow in the NFL. So I think some teams are
a little bit lower because you're like, well some of
the in space stuff for the athletic stuff. I think
he'll prove those things wrong. But I think at the
end of the day, whether he's a first round pick,
a third round pick, or a seventh round pick against
Jay's going to be a guy the NFL team to

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come on to start briarly on the NFL career. I
know two years ago we had a guy Nate Lambman
from Colorado who was the best run defender I've seen
the last couple draft classes still, and he went on
draft because he's the first second down guy only, but
he was smart, physical, tough, and he's sorry for the
Falcons ever since as a UDFA, I think Jay Higgins
has a notch above him, and I think similar career.
LI likes Fan Jays is going to play a long
time in the NFL and be a starting linebacker for

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a lot of NFL teams.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I want to ask you about Shannon Rebel at defensive
back real quick, Eric. He heard his knee early in
the year. He was a small school guy. A lot
of people projected him as a first round pick. Is
he going to be a participate at all? Where is
he in terms of his recovery?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
No. Our process is if you were invited to the
Shrine Bowl and you have a season ending injury that season,
we of course still honor your ability to come to
the trine Ball and take himut of interview process. Our
interview process is, you know, I'm proud of It's great.
We've got eighteen hours of time with NFL teams, meaning
all of our players can knock out a lot of
their interviews from the combine process. And for a lot
of these guys, the interviews are way more important on
the field stuff. And I think for a guy like

(30:42):
Shavon who is not going to benefit from that if
he wasn't able to do that I think is super important.
He's a great personality. He likes to talk, he likes
to hear about a story, he likes to share where
he's come from and where he's going. I think for
NFL teams they'll want to leave the Shrine Bull saying, Okay,
he may have helped with the combine, but we feel
good about the character in person and who he is.
I think for Shavin because he won't be able to
work on the combine maybe pre draft, hopefully he will

(31:05):
the interviews what's really gonna matter for him and him
talking NFL teams, the whole draft process at the Shrine
Bol is going to be really really important. I think
he's going to crush those interviews. And I'll say it
right now, shavan Or will be a first round pick
despite maybe not doing any combine or protesting, because he's
that specially a player and a person.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
And the thing is, you know, people say, well, chevon
Rabel only had five interviews at the Combine, but yeah,
at the Shrine Ball he interviewed with all thirty two teams.
So the importance of the interviews that the Shrine Bowl
can't be you know, can't be over state.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
One thing we'll say is that every team can have
at least twenty to thirty minutes minimum with every player
on our roster. And that's more than the NFL Combine
gives to guys, right, And I guess that's what I'm
really proud of it. It takes a lot to do that,
and our schedule is tough to do that. But I
got like Shavon is going to leave. I remember Dave
Flowers had very few Combine interviews. Are our second interview
being in charge of the shrinebol because he didn't follow

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the Srine Ball and it made his draft cross a
lot easier too. Is able to focus on the right
kind of things, focus on training was it will be
healthier the entire process long too. So it's an honor
chance to work with Shavan and help him with interview
prep and be honest team the rest of the way too.
And again NFL teams and media will be able to
see Shavon revel at the Shrine Bowl all week long
for interviews.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
I'm gonna ask you about two more defense backs and
we'll let you get out of here, go back to
the CAAA. Isaiah Waxter, I mean a bigger tough, shutdown corner.
I think he's going to be a safety at the
next level. What do you think about Waxter? What are
we going to see from Waxter?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, he'll play a lot of corner, play some safety
as well too, because I think teams agree with that
he could play safety as well too. I think he's
going to be one of the best athletic testers of
the six to one plus corners in this draft class.
I think he's going to be a plug and play
gunner for NFL teams and usually about four or five
I'll call him gunner. First prospects get drafted on Day three.
Guys that are gunners, we'll see where they're at afterwards.
Guy like bub Means Yer ago Right was drafted to

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be a gunner, but also played receiver for the Saints
as a rookie pretty early on too, And I think
that's how Waxter not only makes the team that makes
an impact as a rookie, but his junior film was outstanding.
If you watch the game against Maryland this year when
he faced against Kayden Prather among others at Maryland, played
really well on the red zone, vertically down the field too,
and tell its injury stuff this year a little bit
to kind of overcome that, but no doubt he's one

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of the more physically impressive corners in this year's draft class. Again,
he'll be a draft pick for NFL teams about saying, hey,
can he be a special teams guy early on, which
will show at the Trian Bull as well as athletic
testing wise. And then no doubt showed that a corner
and safetyd in the tribal week of practice.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, I'm going to segue right into Maryland because the
last guy want to speak about is Glendon Miller, a
guy who the last two years has really impressed me.
He often plays over the slot receiver but can be
moved all over the field, terrific ball skills. He's also physical.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, we see now the rise of bigger slot receivers
being more and more common with NFL teams or tight ends.
And no longer do you only mean Nickel, who's a
five eight, twitchy, quick guy. My guy like Bedia Bishop
like those guys are really important to have as an
every one in the NFL. But sometimes you want a
bigger corner or bigger safety to play inside, and Glennon
Miller is going to be able to be a guy
that can guard the Pukunakus of the world, the Mica
Sikis as well as hang at safety, and Berro was

(33:53):
successful in the run game as well too, So he's
a lot to appreciated right now. NFL teams liked him
a lot going into the season. That Maryland defense had
some struggles team, but overall, Glenn is as I think
well liked by a lot of scouts who know him well,
and I've seen the last two years and again I
think to your point, Tony, he's going to be coveted
as that Nickel first prospect. You can do a lot
more at safety, maybe even corner as well. During Shrine
Bowl week.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I'm going to ask you one last question and I'll
shut up for the rest of this shows.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
A third one last question. I love it? Is it?
There you go?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
The Shrine Ball going back forever has always had a
history of bringing Canadian prospects to their game. And last
year you hit a home run with quantest stickers. I
know it's from Tennessee, but he played in the CFL
and when the Jets put him on the field, he
was terrific. You're gonna be able to pull a rabbit
out of the hout from Canada this year or someone
who played in Canada.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, I'm not sure it's a good question. I mean,
I could probably squint and say a guy was born
in Canada and it's playing the Shrine Bowl either. But
we've liked that that tradition of having Canadian players take
advantage of the Trine Bowl process as well too. But
at the same time, we're want to put a great
product on the field for NFL teams, and having one
hundred and thirty really talent NFL players is most important
versus kind of of having you know, not gimmick but
kind of other players from different areas for no reason

(35:04):
or different reasons. So we'd love to We love that tradition.
There's been a lot of great players from a Keeym
Hicks to now Quantest Stiggers that played in the Shrine
Bowl that came from Canada. But I'm not sure if
will this year too. But we still have three weeks left,
so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Eric, can't wait to see you down in First Go,
can't wait to hang out talk to you again. As
we get things starts start seeing these guys on the
field awesome. I know this is a busy time. We
appreciate you giving us some of your valuable time to
talk about the players heading down to the Shrining game
and anything else you want to tell the fans about.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
The game of the floor is yours.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
No, it works on it man at and T Stadium
for our one hundredth anniversary at the East West Shrine
bol It's incredible, one hundred games we've played in this event.
We've got some great Hall of famers, former Shrine Bowl
Hall of Famers, NFL Hall of Famer is going to
be there as well too, and a really special event.
We're again hopefully going to have an increase in draft
picks this issue and do our job on the football side.
We're really looking at having a great event for our players,
NFL teams, media, as well as all the great historical

(35:55):
players have played the Trine Bowl over the years too,
so we're excited to have our hundred year aniversary too,
and appreciate us be on and we'll see you down there.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, I can't wait to see the Shrine bull. Eric,
thanks so much. Thanks guys, that's Eric Galco. Great job
from him, friend of ours.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Front of the program from the Shrine Bowl, and we
can't wait to see him down there in Frisco.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
And he does a great job giving the media access.
We'll player interviews down there.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Tony and I will be obviously at practice the first
few days and breaking down everything we see right here
on draft season, and I'll be on the Giants Little
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Speaker 1 (36:37):
Tony real quick before we say goodbye.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
We'll have more time to obviously break all this Dan
as we get closer to the draft, and you know,
we see what team's doing for agency which will impact
team needs and all that stuff. But we do know
who the first eighteen teams will be selecting and what
order in the NFL draft until we get to the playoffs. Here,
I'll rattle off very quickly, and then I want to
go through just a couple bullet points here. Believe it
or not, there were ten teams that finished with five

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or few were wins this year, which is a lot
for any NFL season. So the Titans, the Browns, and
the Giants were the only teams finishing with just three wins.
That's the order, Titans and one, Browns at two, Giants
at three. Let's go through those teams first. The Titans
and Browns and Giants certainly all are in need of
a quarterback in one way, shape or form. Curious to

(37:20):
see how that shakes out given the just Shaan Watson
situation in Cleveland and Tennessee doesn't look like Will Levis
is their guy, and the Giants I really don't have
a quarterback on the roster at all except for Tommy DeVito,
so I'll be curious to see how those teams handle
this draft in terms of the quarterback position with Sanders
Ward and then, of course, the consensus seems to be

(37:41):
that Travis Hunter is the top non quarterback player in
this draft class, so we'll see how it shakes out
between those three teams.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
What will be interesting to see is does the fact
that Tennessee and Cleveland two teams that will likely, if
not almost definitely go quarterback if that helps Jyley Milroe.
And what I mean by the is you know Schidor
Sanders and Camboarder are gonna go, you know, one to
two in some order or another. Does that push Jalen
Milroe up? I mean a year ago, a year ago

(38:09):
at this time, did you think Michael Pennix was going
to be a first round pick? Did you think bon
Nicks was going to be a first round pick? And
look where they went. You know, people will discuss and
debate the Jalen Milroe back and forth. I'm a big
fan of his. I think that Tennessee and Cleveland being
selected one to two really impacts in a positive way.
Jalen Milroe.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, you could push them off the board. You're right.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Next set of teams Patriots at four they win their
final game with the Bills resting everyone at four and
thirteen Jaguars they loose. The Colts they picked fifth, Raiders sixth,
Jets seventh, Panthers eight, Saints nine, and Bears tenth to
round out the top ten. Tony and in that group,
the Raiders certainly have a quarterback need the Jets potentially,

(38:53):
and I mean, look, even if Aaron Rodgers is back,
that's not a long term answer there, right, So they
have a quarterback need as well. The Saints very well
could have a quarterback needed and them or nine depending
on what they do with Derek Carr. So a lot
of teams need quarterbacks. And this ain't last year's class,
but there's gonna be a lot of quarterbacks to fill
those needs for all those teams.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Well, the Raiders really wanted to move up and get
you know, Jayden Daniels last year. I'm sure you know,
if the right package is offered to a team like
the Grounds, they may you know, foot flop with the Raiders.
So the Raiders can get up and get their quarterback.
And I mean, how ironic is it? Two months ago
we're talking about Carolina having the first pick of the

(39:31):
draft Bryce Young. His career is over Carolina. Yet things
have kind of changed and now it looks like they're
going to stay with Brychs Young because he played relatively
well in the final two months of the season. Credit
to him, and obviously they're out of the quarterback range.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, ironically, after a year one where people like, how
could you be so dumb selecting Bryce Young over CJ Straud,
then the final half of their second seasons.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Bryce Young played better then c J.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Stroud, So it's almost like you should have made determinations
and how good players are after just their rookie year.
It's funny how that goes, but you know, that's that's
the NFL. And then let's go through eleven to eighteen.
You got the forty nine ers, who I can't believe
they're picking at eleventh in this draft, you know, because
they need more opportunities to get good players. In San Francisco,
Dallas at twelve, Miami at thirteen. Three teams that I
think you would qualify as teams fans thought could be

(40:24):
playoff teams this year, but all disappointed, whether it's because
of injury or something else. Then you have Indianapolis, who
were bringing back both their general manager and their head coach,
and Trent balk and Shane Steiken. I'm sorry, Trent Balki
is a part of me in Jacksville, but they're bringing
back their entire team in Indianapolis, Atlanta, Arizona, the Bengals

(40:45):
at seventeen, and then the Seahawks round things out at
pick number eighteen.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
You know, you look at San Francisco at eleven, you
look at Miami. Thirteen teams that had injuries, especially in
Miami at the quarterback position. I mean, this may be
this is an opportunity for them to add that final piece,
so in the first round, early in the in the
following rounds to maybe push them over the edge. Dallas.
Who knows what's gonna happen in that organization. Indianapolis. I

(41:10):
mean they're gonna roll with Anthony Richardson, and I like
what Chris Ballad has done with his team's minus the
quarterback position, which he never seems to get right. So
that is an interesting situation.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, Krek, Chris baward the GM in Indianapolis, thank you,
though he had a brain freeze there for a second.
But yeah, we'll see what these teams decide to do
as we head into the drafts and obviously as we
get a better idea for team needs. You know, there
could be Tony in this draft. Maybe fifteen guys with
true first round grades. It's not gonna be a large number.
Last year, I was close to twenty four. It was

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a lot, and I think it's gonna be much much
less this year. So trying to get a real impact
player for these teams picking even around you know, thirteen
or fourteen, depending on how they have these guys graded,
could end up being tough. So it'll be fun to
kind of digest this middle of the first round where
I think we could see some movement given you know
how short the first round grade list might be in

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this particular class.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
And we still got a wed on the underclass But
I mean, is Derek Harmon at Oregon has he is
he can officially you know, enter the draft. So many
guys you know playing in the final four, and those
those underclassmen get extra time. Remember January fifteenth used to
be the hard date. Now that date has been pushed
back to the end of January.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
No question about it, Tony, good stuff, my friend.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Our next episode, we're going to be reacting to the
semi finals of the college football playoffs. Those games will
take place on Thursday and Friday. Tony and I we
were recording the following Monday morning, so we'll react to that.
We'll look forward to the college football Finals the following weekend.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Is it a Monday night again, the National championship game?

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I'm assuming it's the Monday Monday night, and then.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
We will record the day after that game.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Reacting to that and then believe it or not, that's
basically our Shrine Bowl preview show as well, because and
Senior Balls will be off on that Friday to first
go and then mobile for those two games. So there's
really no break this year, right, you know in past
years we've done this, you kind of have two weeks
in January, there's not a whole lot going on, and
you know you're trying to figure out how to do content.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Well, not this year.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
We are rolling and then we get back, we'll review
the Senior Bowl and then just three weeks after that
we're off to the Combine. So a lot of stuff
going on, Tony. It should be a fun next couple
of months.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Gonna be very busy and listen, draft, draft, draft, that's
what some of us live for.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
What do you have on sports? Key to coming up?

Speaker 4 (43:29):
We've got divisional team mocks as far as the divisions
are concerned, I think with the NFC North just went
up today, go five rounds deep for each team in
each division, and later on this week I'll have a
full first round.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Mack can't wait to see it. We'll talk about that
on next week's show as well. For Tony poline from
sports Keta. I'm John Schmulk. This has been Draft Season,
presented by Moodies. Thanks for being with us. We'll see
you next time.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Everybody