July 11, 2024 • 41 mins
Our penultimate division preview takes of to the Eastern division of the other conference as we examine the Cowboys, Eagles, Commanders and Giants. Plus, International Pathway Program product Bayron Matos joins Travis to talk about his outstanding journey to the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To on the move, going Deep, Speedless past Hell. From
the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
He's got my hands in the playoffs? What is up Dolphins?
And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host,
Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, the penultimate divisional preview episode,
the last one before we get to our own division,
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and we go to the East on the other side
of the league in the NFC Crazy Division with a
very clear line of demarcation, although that might have been
moved up one team this offseason. We'll break down all
of that, what the Dolphins can learn from the Cowboys
and Eagles, and what's next for.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Washington and the dream Man. Plus one of.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
My favorite player chats from media Day from the International
Pathway Player program. Bayon Matos is here and what a
character he is. From the Baptist Hell Studios inside the
Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
This is.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The Draft Time Podcast. May you kick it off with
the division champion from a season to go? Although the
more you go over the Dallas Cowboys off season, it
sure feels like they shouldn't be in this perch. Atop
the NFC East. They were twelve and five last year,
one and done after winning the division. After a nice
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comeback in the NFC East, and this, I mean, quite
frankly is the NFC Dolphins, and everyone listening to this
show kind of gets that right. Elite offense directed by
a stellar quarterback and arguably the game's top wide receiver,
although we know our guy probably is the top one
depth across the skill groups, a damn good defense that
complements the offense, but just cannot get over that January hump.
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Now they did get over the divisional hump, leading most
to believe they'd finally capture that elusive playoff win and
progress through the NFC and perhaps to their first conference
title game since the Super Bowl runs of those mid
nineties teams that I grew up on. Five regular season losses,
all on the road at the Cardinals, one of the
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biggest upsets in the NFL last year, at the Niners
forty two to ten, at the Eagles at Buffalo thirty
one to ten, and then of course a Jason Sanders
buzzer beater down here, and then a home loss to
the Packers forty eight to thirty two. With that game
was actually forty eight to sixteen with like five minutes
to play in the fourth quarter, a total thrashing at
the hands of the Dallas Cowboys. Brian Schottenheimer is back,
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but there is massive turnover elsewhere, including at the defensive
coordinator position. In fact, I believe it's an upgrade with
Mike Zimmer and the personnel.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Upheaval has been fast.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Plus they've not been their usual busy self bringing in
prize gems and free agency or trades. So there's some
consternation in Big d around one of the best rosters
they've had since the des Caught It days or maybe
even I don't know that Romo's first days in Dallas.
It's been a long time, and so into a new
season we go, and speaking of not making any prized moves,
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I mean, this is the list of significant additions for
the Dallas Cowboys. Zeke Elliott, they just said goodbye to
him last year. Eric Kendricks, he's on his third team
in three years. And Tyler Geiton was probably a developmental
tackle taken in the first round out of Oklahoma on
the way out. Oh Buddy, Tony Pollard's gone. Michael Gallup
has gone, Tyron Smith after a Hall of Fame career
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in Dallas has gone, Tyler Baddish has gone, Dorence Armstrong,
Dante Fowler, Jonathan Hankins, Neville Gallamore, Stefan Gilmour, jy Ron Curse,
and Layton vander esh retired. That is a significant group
of names. So what does this team do well, Well,
it's tough to know when they have that much turnover,
but we do know the offensive corps is largely together
and they anticipate and throw on time footballs out of breaks.
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That marries up with their run action and action game
as well as anybody in the NFL, and Tua and
Tyreek are probably the only ones on the same level
or better I'd say better then Dak and CD on
these particular types of plays. They also have a diversity
of offensive weapons. Despite the losses, they still have Brandon Cooks,
who I think he got drafted in twenty fourteen. I
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think he might be the most underrated player or under
talked about player, and his being traded all over the
NFL doesn't help this case that we don't talk about
that much over the last decade in the NFL. I
think Jalen Tobert can play, Jake Ferguson's a total baller,
and Luke scoon Maker is coming along at tight end
as well. They do take away the football quite well,
and I don't think that will change with Mike zimmer
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into In fact, I think he could take them to
a different level with his ability to create pressures and
simulated pressures from fire zones and different games they want
to run up front. But it's tough to pinpoint what
this team does well with all this turnover outside of
that offensive core in that passing game. Because the running game,
I mean, that's where I start with the fatal flaw
of this run. Can the offense survive what to me
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looks like a completely lifeless running game, because I don't
think going back to Zeke, who is slow as hell
in this stage of his career and relying on a
scat back. Induce Vaughan, who I like for that role,
but he's more of like basically what Devon h Chan
was last year, like one hundred carries, right, I can't
give him more than that. I'm just not sure it
works the same, especially when you consider what's next in
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the fatal flawless no More. Tyron Smith no more, Tyler
Biadish and Beatis was okay, and Smith was often out
of the lineup, but again I thought Geiton was a
developmental tackle in the first round. Zach Martin's another year older,
but he's still a great player. But this team had
like the O line in the NFL for so long, right,
but it's kind of deteriorated now to where there's actual
question marks up and down that group. What else do
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they not do very well? And this was as much
schematically and like philosophically an issue as it was personnel
stuff last year. But they couldn't stop the run all
year long. I mentioned this in the Gallimore coverage this offseason.
They just seemed to put square pegs in round holes.
And again that the DC has changed, and in fact
that DC is now a head coach. But they so
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frequently played undersized in the box, and that's gonna have
to change. And Mike Zimmer's more of kind of that
old school big body like football is a physical game
type of coach, so I think that will change. But
they built this thing around that style with Demone Clark
is one of the top linebackers who was a safety.
I can't was at Marquise Bell, the guy they kept
bringing down from safety to play like a quasi linebacker role.
They're running like two hundred pound linebackers out there behind
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three hundred pound nose tackles. They're just giving up weight voluntarily.
In a game, it's all about size and mass and
moving people off the spot. So some interesting things about
this team are biggest story lines. It seems like every
year the head coach of the Cowboys is on the
hot seat, no matter what accomplishment or who it is.
But Mike McCarthy, pretty much since he was hired, it
was like, you need to go win playoff games or
else we're going to figure out something else. And last
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year's end of the season was not acceptable. You can't
lose at home in the playoffs. You can't lose at
home in the playoffs by essentially like four or five scores.
I know it got closer in the end with garbage time,
but what does he do, Like, what does Mike McCarthy
do well that sets him apart from the rest of
You know, they had the offensive change, and sure enough,
the Cowboys offense was good, but it was also good
under Kellen Moore of the year prior so I don't know.
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I feel like it's probably the last the last rodeo
unless they surprise people and make a deep run this year. Otherwise,
how the hell do they replace all the roster upheaval?
Like this is not a usual Dallas Cowboys offseason. Maybe
it's for the best in terms of not spending you know,
above board on free agents, but I think that's basically
a result of having to pay their own guys, which
that's the third storyline here. They haven't done that yet
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with Dak Prescott or Cdee Lamb, who they have to
bring back.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They absolutely have to.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'm sure it gets resolved before you play a game,
but it's on the list for now. My final roster
thoughts for the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty four. They're
still plenty of like here. The quarterback and the weapons
are very good, even if receiver is much thinner than
it has been in the past. But losing a couple
guys this offseason and the running back positions they total
wild card and saying wild card is probably just being
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nice because quite frankly, I think it's the worst room
in the National Football League. The line has legit questions
for the first time in a while, and nobody lost
more pass rushers than the Dallas Cowboys did. They do
still have Michael Parsons, who is the best football player
I've ever studied for a Dolphins game, Aaron Donald notwithstanding
back when we watched them in twenty twenty ahead of
Twoa's first career start, and DeMarcus Lawrence is still doing it.
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I don't think they really resolve their defensive tackle issue.
Is Mazzie Smith gonna kick back out to a three
technique where he's best ors he playing the nose tackle
again where he's kind of undersized. They get Trayvon Digs
back from the injury, but there's no way Deron Bland
can repeat a five pick six season again, right, So
it's like you kind of have to expect a regression
to the mean there with his individual performance and what
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else they have in that secondary actually is pretty damn good.
I like Molik Hooker a heck of a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
They brought back Jordan Lewis, which I thought was just
a massive move, one of the better slots in the
entire NFL. Donovan Wilson, Marquispell, gary On Conley, some players
that can factor in some playing time there and some
guys I like their game quite a lot. What can
they tell with the Miami Dolphins, Well, up until this offseason,
I thought you could basically hold up a mirror to
this team and see your own reflection on the other side.
I think this is one of the biggest regression candidates
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in the league. But despite all of that, it's funny
because regression typically comes when the quarterback gets hurt, or
they move on from the quarterback, or he falls off
into the abyss, and I don't think that's going to
happen with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But this team was.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Good last year, but you could see flaws, and I
think a lot of those flaws were picked apart even
further previously. You could chalk up, you know, how a
couple of bad bounces could drastically alter the narrative around
your football team, which I think happens all the time
in this league, and teams get misrepresented as a result
of that. And they were this close to knocking off
the Niners in the playoffs two years ago, after which
I think people forget. They did quell the narrative with
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a blowout win over the Tom Brady Bucks albeit a
very bad football team in that wild card round on
the road too, by the way, and the year before
that almost beat the Niners team at home, albeit that
the Shanahan and McDaniel Niners that they all beat but
lost because they couldn't get the ball clocked at the
end of the game. A team that has been a
consistent NF contender, and that's who they lost to two
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years ago as well, so or three years ago as well.
So they just they never did it, and now they
have to carry that baggage into a tough offseason. I
don't think it matters at all, but gosh, I would
love for us to get a couple of wins under
our belt to avoid this exact fate in terms of
how we're perceived across the National Football League. Second team
up today is a team that I'm gonna go ahead
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and spoil the ending for you all right now, that
I'm gonna pick to win the division. Not much of
a surprise here. I think it's the one really good
team the division, the Philadelphia Eagles, who finished eleven and
six last year, second in the division. They lost in
the wild card round thirty two to nine to the Buccaneers,
I remember texting my buddy JT, who worked here in
the video department, who has since left to Baltimore, best
of luck in the Queen City there, JT. But he's
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a diehard Eagles fan that I was texting him like,
I think you guys are gonna get a great break
here by the Rams pulling off the upset over the
Lions in Detroit, and then the Eagles beat the Bucks
on the road, and all of a sudden you have
a second round home playoff game against the Rams. And
of course neither of those worked out because I did
not foresee the Eagles collapse coming at all.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I don't think anybody did.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
First of all, from ten to one, from ten to
one to six losses in seven games, including games at
Seattle without Geno Smith and Drew Locke starting that football
game home for the five win Cardinals at the Tommy
DeVito Giants, and of course that was a rest game,
so I don't really put too much stock into it.
But then also three blowouts Dallas, San Francisco and a
playoff game against the Buccaneers, Like really remember when they
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beat the Chiefs on Monday night football and that was
a big win for US. Because we were trying to
kind of pace with the Chiefs for a top seeding
at the time. Then that overtime thriller over Buffalo that
I felt was like what gave us the AFC East.
Of course, the Titans lost change that, but they get
back to back wins over the Chiefs and Bills to
climb the ten and one and back to back weeks
the Super Bowl seemed like the only outcome that was
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there for this team. Instead, it's one of the biggest
collapses in the history of the National Football League, and
nobody seemed to have any answers for it. Offense was broken,
they lost their surge in the running game, they lost
their edge on defense. Just a super, super strange departure
from what we knew about this team through Thanksgiving. I mean,
talk about December collapses.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
My god. They didn't win a game.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
After that except for the season finale against the or
No who they beat they beat, like I think they
beat the Giants in like Week fifteen is what it was.
Big moves coming in. Saquon Barkley is the biggest of
all of them, I think in terms of his ability,
but Bryce Huff is the one that I'm most excited
about they bring back Chauncey Gardner Johnson after a one
year hiatus in Detroit. Matt Hennessy was a former high
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pick of the Falcons. He's now in the middle there,
trying to replace Jason Kelsey forgot his name forero point
three seconds. Zach Bond another first round I used to
like a lot from the Saints. Devin White trying to
resurrect his career. So was Makai Becton, and then their
first two picks Quinn and Mitchell and Cooper dejen Man.
That's a nice haul of defensive backs on the way
out of Vante Max is a nice slot player for them.
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Kevin byered a trade deadline acquisition that did not work out.
Jack driscoll is here. Suwa Opetta went to the Bucks
the offensive lineman. They lost two running backs, DeAndre Swift
in Boston Scott and they also saw Marcus Mariota leave
in division like Donathan McNabb once upon time to the
team in Washington. What they do well they add hats
in the running game. And they can do that because
the quarterback can run the football. They can do that
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because they can add tight ends to the formation and
run the ball from heavy alignments, but also incorporate a
vertical game in the passing game. Off of that, the
mix of power run game and ability to get vertical
from any position from whether it's a nasty split in
close to the formation or a plus split out wide,
really defines the idea of forcing the defense into uncomfortable
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personnel groupings from which they have to defend the entire field,
which is really challenging, especially in today's NFL. They also
are a short yardage guarantee right that didn't go away.
The brotherly shove is still there. They have a quarterback
that can power a lift like six hundred pounds or
squad or whatever the hell you call it, and that
helps them in a big way. But can they do
it without Jason Kelsey being there. I'm curious to see
that they rush the quarterback. That never seems to change.
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They always have multiple Bowls's in the chamber there to
go after quarterbacks. I think they got even better with
Bryce Huff replacing Hassan Reddick, who is kind of like
on hiatus for the New York Jets. I think they
got way better down the middle with n Kobe Dean
coming back trying to kind of resurrect the career of
Devin White, which we'll see how that works out. Drafting
Jeremiah Trotter's boy junior as it were, and also bringing
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back CJGJ and by the way, corner was a big
issue for them, but I think now it's a strength
because they got my favorite corner the entire drafting, Quinian
Mitchell and rookies playing cornerback can be a dicey prospect,
but I think he has the best ability to do that.
And then Cooper Dejen who I think is a total
playmaker in the defense who can kind of help them
mix and match. Their defensive backfield is so dynamic now
with both he and Chauncey Gardner Johnson, who can really
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take that thing to the next level. What's the concern
or a fatal flaw on this football team? Their ability
to be on time and rhythm and short intermediate passing
games so weird because that was such a part of
what made me personally not love Galen Hurts his game
out of college, but he developed it and got better
at it because he's a I go hard worker who
just gets better. But we kind of saw revert back
last year and he had this pinch it to kind of,
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you know, bail on clean pockets. And if you don't
have the ability to stay on schedule with the short
intermediate passing game, then you can't build your vertical passing
game off that. You can't run the football off of that,
and the offense as a result became a shell of
its former self.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Can they bounce back from that?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
We'll find out also what is the offensive identity because
they kind of became Wanstead's Dolphins last year. Run run,
and then pass when you have to on third down,
which is why passing numbers were what they were back
in the you know, before the shift of NFL football
because every passing, every throw was basically third and eight
plus and quarterbacks it's tough to complete footballs into seven
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man coverages when they're playing, you know, off off the
line like that. You'll just never make a living in
the NFL playing run, run, pass. And then do they
have the fortitude to get over the ending of the
season or getting back to what made them great because
they became a shell of themselves. And I think that's
reflection of the head coach and the rest of the
entire program there, and it's all still in tact. Curious
to see about that. Now, interesting things about them. Our
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biggest storylines is Nick sirianni As is as accomplished as
they come from a head coaching standpoint, like he's basically
got that team into surprise playoff berth their first year.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They ran rough.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Shot over the league and route to a Super Bowl
loss two years ago, and then last year we're ten
to one and now they finally face their first bit
of adversity under him. And yet they have new coordinators
on either side, which I said that was more of
the same. I'm talking about the you know, the GM
head coach. They brought a new coordinator, so he kind
of has to deliver this year because even if if
it goes wrong, like do do you scapegoat the cornetors
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once again? And even though I disagree with that, that market's
going to roast him alive if they don't make the
postseason and a run on top of that. So Kellen
Moore is the new OC, and he went from head
coaching candidate to his third team in three years and
it hasn't really worked out for him. I am super
curious to see how he constructs his third new offense
with entirely different style of quarterback, like going from Dak
to Herbert, totally different. Right, One is a polished professional quarterback,
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one is a lively arm who's got talent but not
much else. And then the third is now this guy
that's you know, more running than he is passing at
this stage of his career, but an ultimate character and
leader as well. So just a really interesting dynamic there
with Kellen Moore coming over. And of course the final
thing I look at here is what does Vic Fangio
do to the defense. I hope he, you know, is
as conceded and kind of on his own, you know,
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personal mission as he was here with Philadelphia, but we'll
find out he has lots of talent to work with there.
With the Eagles final roster thoughts, look, I talked about
Jalen Hurts that are a little bit, but I'm still
a big fan of his. I think he needs for
the development from how he plays from the pocket. I
think that AJ Brown and DeVante Smith is the only
twosome I'd put close to Reek and Waddle, and then
adding Saquon Barkley is so special. Their special explosion to
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an offense that needs a weapon back there in the
worst way. They were always kind of like by committee.
I just I like the idea of having, you know,
a true talent back there next to a true talent
quarterback because it's kind like Lamar Jackson, where you get
the most of Lamar's running ability when you have a
running back that can threaten defense is in a similar way.
And then also, how do you not love Dallas Gotter
is another go to guy. Beyond that a little bit thin,
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I think the offensive line is still pretty good and
you just watched just you watch. They're gonna get Mackay
Beckton playing up to his draft stock here or draft
status here before you know it. I think this defense
is still crazy talented again. I expect Huff to make
a huge impact and help them get the most out
of both Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Inside.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Milton Williams one of the best defensive tackles you never
heard of. I think there's plenty of pass rush. We
discussed the secondary. It's an impressive roster. I've always been
a big fan of Howie Roseman, how he approaches things,
and he talked about this about how they didn't anticipate
this year's draft class being that great, and so they
went out and a signed a bunch of teams practice
squad players in the last year. They just have this
certain forethought that I think puts them ahead of the
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rest of the league in a lot of respects. What
can they tell us with the Miami Dolphins that one
stretch of games doesn't have to be what defines you
much less one game? Right?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
We talk about that every week in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'd be shocked if the Eagles are not right back
up atop this division, but also back on top of
the NFC in terms of biggest challengers to the Lions
and the Niners in the conference this year. Let's go
ahead and take our first break right there. Come back
on the other side, and welcome in my guest Bydon Matos,
the Dolphins offensive lineman from the International Pathway Program.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You don't want to miss that. He is a character
and a half.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That's next Draft Time Podcast to your host, Travis Wingfield,
brought to you by automation. What up Dolphins? Travis Wingfield
here on the Draft Time Podcast. My guest today is
new Dolphins tackle by On Mattos.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I get it. We good to go. Okay, we want
to start back over.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I was really worried about gett your name wrong there,
So thanks for hanging with me tough here. First of all,
how's it going, man? It's a kind of probably a
little bit of a tidal wave of just new stuff
for you here joining the Dolphins and getting innudated with everything.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
How's it been going?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Man? I thank you so much, you know, for I
mean here today anytime, and man, it's been great.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
It's been great.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Let you know, a great opportunity, you know, take advantage
of every moment that I hear in the building around
this great organization and great people.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Man, its been great.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So football is a little bit new, not super new,
but a little bit. I'm curious how much you were
exposed to football as a child growing up the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Zero?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I played football back back when
I'm from It was like baseball player and basketball players
most of the time. So man, zero zero back around
and food, But I never never know the sport, only
to see in movies and like TV shows back at home.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
But that's like nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So you're watching like the blind Side, Michael, or does
this work on those?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I mean so many baseball players come from there. Right,
So you mentioned that my favorite player, I am a
marriage fans of Julio Rodriguez go in that's my guy.
But you mentioned basketball too, and you played a lot
of hoop coming up to right when you start playing basketball?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well, I stopped playing basketball as I was a key,
so I played basketball and baseball together. And I had
an opportunity to come to the state to be able
to go to high school here when a high school
channel with Tinnessee. And after that I got opportunity to
go to the League one college to play to play basketball.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And then they got you on the football team too, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So yeah, I went to Unity of Mexican on my
first one year try for two, University of South Florida.
And when I was at Florida, that's well, all the
MINIU start happened. The coaches to see me in like
in the team meeting room everywhere like that guy. Yeah,
usually play some foodball. Come on, man, let's give you
a try.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That's too funny.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I remember like in high school they would all the
coaches would always try to recruit, uh, you know, different
players in different sports. But like that's an obvious one like,
let's get that guy in some shoulder pads and see
what he can do. What was that like the first
time you threw on paths and went and tried to
block somebody had to have been tough man, like a
brand new sport.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So well, pretty much when I was when I was
played in hos Cap in college, I played defensive line,
so I played the end and special team. So I
remember my first time and my first day in the building.
I used if they put me past and harm first
day in I remember I put my my past like outside.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Like Southway, so and I remember the helmet.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I don't know how to take it off, so I
used to leave it on the whole practice. I never
think it was the moment I walked there to the
moment I need somebody to help me, said it was tough.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
That's too good man. You're just sitting there. But out
here you have to get it off so you can
get a little bit of aerror.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Oh yeah, needed some bread.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
In humidity, right, But you're I mean it's pretty warm.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I'm from Dominican. Probably I went to school in
time past. It's pretty much the same.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So you're used to it. I guess you kind of
get used to it, but maybe not really. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I think it's hot as hell all the time, but
maybe you just you just deal with it better. How So,
in in your basketball career and making that transition, I
always love to ask multi sport athletes is how do
you think basketball helped you and your football skill set?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It happened a lot of ways because I played system
like you know, it would have be able to move sideways,
you know, to move back like up and down with
the wrong you know, I would have moved your fee
to the transition live very good to football.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So that's great. But man, but food is a different sport.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Like you know, when you when you when you watch
it for the basketballs prepared to preparestor you'll be like,
oh yeah, I can't play football, but.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
The way around not so much.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You don't know, you're not inside, like the deep deep inside.
So a lot of basketball guys like even me, you know,
I can easy sport, but man, nothing around here.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Not quite. What was that first moment of like real
contact for you? Did you?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I mean, you're here, so you had to kind of
like it a little bit right, Like you probably gravitated
towards the contact of football, right.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, well the team was that. I remember the first
time real contact low. I remember I got here in
my block sign I blend deficient and then motioned the
tight end tight end by onto the other side.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I said, man, I love this. I love the moment.
I was the moment that I fell in love.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
With the game came out of basketball court.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, I said, I I love it. I have to
get up now, let's get it, let's do their game.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So I love it, I love I love.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They That's really cool to hear. So I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You know, the International Pathway Program has provided a lot
opportunities for players overseas, and we've seen some guys make,
you know, their debuts and even some guys turn into
massive contracts shortened my lot as a great example of that.
I'm curious how familiar you are with with those guys
and how important their ability to have this chance.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
How has that been important to.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
You men started off with these The IPP is just
something that means a lot to me, and something this
like I take it that would be hard, like it's home.
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
They give me an.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Opportunity to step in the NFL team stepping the you
know in the NFL field, this gray main see those
guys take it to that label even me everything I
thought to Jordan, he's my guy to be in the
phone a lot of times talking hanging out to Jordan
and be like Bir like this is amazing, Like I
see what you're doing, like I'm leaving it now and
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I and that it's not easy. So I see how
how deep you had you have to take it, like
take it And man's that drive me every day Like
I want to get to a level like that, like
I wanted to like it. It's the it's like it's awesome,
like they're feeling, you know, like you don't know nothing
too evil when you're learning and keep pushing and pushing
day by day.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Man, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That's really cool. Yeah, it's it's Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It seems to be a common theme from this team
as guys have a real desire to get better at
this game and try to do you know, do right
by the city of Miami and win a championship for
the team.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So it's really cool to have those types of personalities.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Has it given you any advice as far as like
the best ways to get in right away and kind
of make your mark. Like what he told you has
been a helpful advice for you.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, well he always say that'd be the first one
and the last one out.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
That would take a long way. But I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You're doing, but make sure you're doing something to take
you get into the next label. It's not to take
you get into the next label to help their organization,
not to help like why what so what are you
doing that can help the Miami Dolphins? And there's this's
that's all about, like what I'm doing everytime coming field,
what I'm doing to put myself in the best position
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to be successful and to put myself in the best
position to help my team and my teammates.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's a good organization wide mantra there. We're all trying
to make the best decisions for the Miami Dolphins, just
as you are. So one more question here for you
back on what do you hope to accomplished the season?
What would what would your first year in the NFL
a successful one look.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Like for you?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Mall loning mons from my guys, loaning for everybody in
my room, learning like and like to watch other people
do it, you know, like I like to watch the
bed and they actually amazing, you know, learning for them
so on the once that I came for with the
guys that stay around. Hey, man, I want to win
a super Bowl in the NFL. Man, that would be amazing,
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like Frest Stye in the NFL first time win the
super Bowl and person, no, go may I want to
start to step in the field at this one time
in the year, you know, I start stepping there and like,
get it. Field play in the NFL and the n
NFL game.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Go knock somebody on their ass.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Ro oh, yeah, let's get it. Be appreciate man, Thank
you so much, Thank you so much, appreciation And there
he goes. I told you he was fun. Let's go
ahead and take our last break right there, come back
on the other side and do our best to get
through the final two teams before we go back to
the Dolphins and the AFC East. On the next edition
of the Draft Time podcast, That's next DT your host
Travis Wingfield, brought to you by AutoNation. I sort of
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went through these next two teams quickly, expeditiously, if you will,
because I don't think there's a lot to talk about
for the new York Giants and the Washington Commands. We
start with the GM man six and eleven, third in
the NFC East and a regression to the mean. Were
a team, it was the twenty twenty three New York Giants,
an unlikely run in twenty twenty two to the postseason
(27:06):
with a win on the road against the Kirk Cousins
led Vikings comes back to earth where that I thought
they always kind of belonged. With a six win campaign
marred largely by an injury plugs He's into their quarterback,
and as we get the special look behind the scenes
from them in their off season pursuits on hard Knocks,
we see that Daniel Jones is still, for some reason.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
The priority there, even if it.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Cost him Saquon Barkley in the process. More on that
in a moment. They began the season two to eight
with wins over the Cardinals and Commanders, and talk about
flubbing it up down the stretch, like you could have
they picked six. They got Lake Neighbors, but they could
have been so much higher and maybe even had to
run at Kayleb Williams. But their third and fourth wins
were over the Commanders and Patriots. The latter being a
ten to seven barnbar that nobody wanted to win. This
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run included a forty point loss, an eighteen point loss
twenty one, fifteen, twenty four, and thirty two point losses.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
They were awful.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
They got a signature win over the Packers on Monday
Night football, the same damn night we lost the freaking Titans,
and they also lost three more before beating the Eagles
backups in the finale. A rough season for a team
that reflected that in their roster. I thought the last
two years really but we get the actual evidence of
who this team is and we'll see what they are
this year. With their big moves this offseason. They go
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get Brian Burns, and we saw some discussion behind, you know,
going up to get him in terms of trading draft
picks to go get the dynamic pass pressure from Carolina.
I think it's a good addition there for what they
have in that defensive front. Defense is kind of coming
together in some ways, especially upfront. They add Germaine Illuminor
to the offensive line. That was kind of the big move.
They're kind of expecting progress from somebody like Evan Neil,
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who's been horrendous his so far in his NFL career.
They get Drew Locke, they get Jalen Mill meals Jalen
Mills and the Patriots. Jordan Phillips, you guys know him.
He is now with the Giants, Alan Robinson and Devin Singletary, Like,
this is an offense that is trying to, you know,
basically not be the thirty second skill group in the NFL.
And those are the moves Robinson and Singletary. Now, don't
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get me wrong. Malik Neighbors is the big, big, big
ad here and he's fantastic, but it's gonna be basically
a rookie and Jalen Hyatt trying to get things going
for that passing game. Not to mention, Darren Waller has
now gone too, and so is Sakuon Barkley. He's out,
Ben Bredeson's out, Cam Brown's down here, Xavier McKinney has gone,
Throwing Shepherd's gone, Ashawn Robinson, Tyrod Taylor flipped to the
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team in the Green from the New York and then
Jihad Ward also exited stage left.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
What do they do well?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I have one thing in here because I think they
should be able to generate pass rush with four because
Burns is elite and requires multiple you know, four set
of eyes, two sets of eyes, four eyeballs on him,
matth Dexter Lawrence even better than that, and Kavon Thibodeau
is a guy that man, it's he's not Evan Neil.
For sure, He's more productive and been a better player,
but there's kind of like this roller coaster wave that
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he's on that he has to find a way to
get off and become. You know what I thought he
was as a freshman at Organ is the next great pass,
the next Miles Garrett in the NFL, and there is
great speed all over the side level that defense with
Bobby o'carake A Zizo Jilari, and then I think Boogie
bash him was a guy that could have a nice
little breakout year here for the Giants, what's the concern
or fatal flaw? I could tell you everything about this team,
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but they couldn't block anybody last year. They complained about
that in Hard Knocks. They have easily to me the
worst skill group player a group of skill players, especially
when you factor in Saquon Barkley's injuries, and then like,
we don't really have to go beyond this because it's
been five years and the quarterback hasn't had a good
year yet, so what are we doing? You know? And
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then the secondary struggled last year and got worse, losing
his Zabra McKinney. That guy's a freaking stud and now
he's gone too. So I just I don't know. I
don't see it interesting things about this team biggest storylines.
Just seems like such an obvious team candidate for a
massive overhaul next offseason. And even though I think Dave
Ball's a good football coach, head coaches don't usually survive that,
which is a shame because he never got to choose
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his own quarterback. Like, if it goes the way I
think it's gonna go this year, he goes down swinging
with three years of Daniel Owns, like, woo, you freaking do.
And then also there's a lot of talent in that
front seven, and Malik Neighbors is a guy that I
think you can build an offense around, and so if
it goes the way I think it will, they're not
gonna win a bunch of games. It could become and
it's the New York freaking Giants, right, and a very
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attractive destination for a head coach and perhaps a high
draft pick, But then which court you want? Carson Beck
cam Ward's the guy I would take. But if you
don't get the first overall pick, he probably don't get
an optional to the guy like that final roster thoughts.
I just don't know what the calling card is here
or the plan really. I mean, they say as much
and hard knocks that you don't pay a forty million
dollars quarterback to hand it off to a twelve million
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dollar running back. But the issue at that statement starts
with the production of the forty million dollar quarterback who's
throwing sixty two touchdowns forty picks. And let me go
ahead and get in close to the microphones for you
here forty six career fumbles. That is a potential for
eighty six giveaways compared to sixty two touchdowns over five years.
He's got a career six point three yards per attempt,
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eighty five point two passer rating. I remember when I
was doing lockdown coverage back in twenty nineteen, I was
fighting everybody online about how good Kyler Murray was and
how terrible Daniel Jones was.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
And Kyler's a good player. I think he's the top
twelve quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
He's not as good I thought he's gonna be so far,
and injuries and coaching and upheaval there has played a
factor in as well as his own shortcomings. But Daniel
Jones pretty spot on. Guy can't play football. I love
the league neighbors, and I think he can carry an offense.
But the number two, like who is it? It's is
Jalen Hyatt. I suppose Wandell Robinson. I love Andrew Thomas,
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but Evan Neil has been atrocious at right tackle. We
beat him to a drum last year. They haven't done
a lot Tequelda concerns about the interior offensive line just
like just seems like an offensive will have the exact
same issues to me. And then on Dee, I mentioned
all the names we love upfront, but I think Deontay
Banks is a hit at cornerback, Cordell flock and play
a little bit. I like Tyler Nuban in the safety
in the second round from Minnesota, but the depth beyond
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that it's questionable. So this is to me as a
candidate for a top five pick next year. What can
it tells about the Miami Dolphins. I think there was
a lot to glean from both Dallas and Philadelphia. Nothing
about the Giants or Commanders can inform us about your
Miami Dolphins. Speaking of the Commandos, let's go ahead and
do that real quick. Go ahead, and time to start
thinking about maybe beginning to you know, as everyone knows,
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go ahead and take command. If you haven't seen that video,
I referenced it all the time here on the show.
They when they first signed Carson Wentz a few years back.
You know how they do like the hype video like
we did with McDaniel when he wass on the plane
to Miami talking to TUA. They had Carson Wentz do
this like phone take where he tried to like do
their hashtag and that was like the best take they had. Like, hey,
(33:32):
reshoot it, do it in their take. Maybe don't do
it at all, because it was the worst hype video
I've ever seen in my entire life. So the Commandos
four and thirteen last in the NFC East, and honestly,
I thought they were a better team than the Giants
last year, and they're better than the record was, especially
before that final month of the season when things just
went off. The Rails entirely, and you know, they got
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rid of Jack del Rio, who's a total ding dong,
and then Ron Rivera replaced him as a play caller
on defense, which was like the lateral move. But somehow
I remember we hit that stretch last year for the
Dolphins of Raiders, Jets, Commanders, Titans, and I was saying,
like the Commanders of the one team this list that
I think can threaten us because of their explosiveness on
offense and a quarterback who can run a little bit
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and get hot and create some magic. But it was
actually the easiest game we played because we blew them
out more than anybody else. But they were also in
the midst of a downward spiral at that point. It
started earlier. They were actually four and five before a
narrow loss to Seattle, then sided losses as the Giants
and Cowboys, and the biggest one was to us, and
then they didn't win again the rest of the year.
So from four and five to four and thirteen nets
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and the second pick in the draft, a coaching change,
a brand new quarterback, and it is cool to see
Dan Quinn back in a head coaching position. My former
boss here, the late great Jason Jenkins loved him some DQ,
and he knew him well from working at various other
stops across the national Football lead with d Q, so
I just wanted to mention that every time I see
Dan Quinn, I always think about Jason Jenkins. Rest in peace,
big fellow, big moves here. They brought in Austin Eckler
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zach Ertz, like what year is a dog? They brought
into Tyler Bionis to play center, and Marcus Mariota is
a new backup quarterback there. I like the moves On
defense though, Dorince Armstrong Dante Fowler is a really nice
pass rush duo. Frankie Luvu Go Koogs is like the
perfect linebacker fit for this defense. Bobby Wagner, I think
is several years past his prime, but that's cool. Jeremy
Chin and Tyler Owens is a fun safety combo. And
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then of course, in the first round of the draft,
Jade and Daniels out of LSU by way of Arizona State,
which I watched a lot of those ASU games, and
I get, we developed, we grow, we progress, but there's
a lot of bad tape on this guy. On the
way out. A couple of quarterbacks Jacoby Brissett and Sam Howell.
I still think Sam Howe can play ball. Antonio Gibson
exits stage left of the Patriots. Curtis Samuel comes up
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to Buffalo to stay in the AFC East. Nick Gates
also exits Casey two Hill Kendall Fuller is a Miami Dolphin,
and Cameron curl also exits.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
That's a lot of talent leaving the building there as well.
What do they do well?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
It's always tough to know when you have this amount
of turnover, but the entire staff wholesale changes up and
down the roster. If we go off Dan Quinn in
Dallas and the import of so many cowboys like okay,
so it's I guess it's cover three, which is a
version of defense and only plays anymore. I think the
vision is to play the light boxes they played there
and be super athletic and be able to run on
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defense and play different coverages with different guys playing different
spots in those coverages, while also running the football and
controlling the game on offense. Does any of this apply
to twenty twenty four? I don't think so personally. Now
they do have a Playbecker quarterback who I think needs
to learn how to play the position at the NFL level,
which is a pretty big thing to have to learn
how to do. But with weapons they have, I think
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they'll be able to generate explosive plays down the field.
With the quarterback that can do that. What's the concern
or the fatal flaw? I mean the whole damn operation,
the obligatory quarterback. You know, Ricky quarterback mentioned goes here.
I do like the way Jade and Daniels approaches the game.
I think will get better and improve as he goes along.
It might take some years for this program to come together,
but I think he has kind of the right head
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on his shoulders. I think there could be some growing pains,
to put it nicely, with a new skin scheme that
is spearheaded by Cliff Kingsbury. He came back, okay, I
mean you know they couldn't. He couldn't figure out Kyler
Murray in Arizona. How's it going to be indifferent?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
The coverage in the back end was way way too
much to overcome last year to kind of negate what
was a decent pass rush despite trading off some key
parts and I don't think it got any better this offseason.
Some interesting things or storylines about them. I can't wait
to watch Daydon Daniels play. I've I've always thought they
had good playmakers. Even with Curtis Samuel Gone. I think
he matches what they have on offense, but I still
have a lot of questions about his game. Kingsbury's return
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it fascinates me. It wasn't good the first time around.
I don't expect to see why it changes. Dan Quinn
back in the head coaching chair, but is his you know,
kind of antiquated view on things, is that going to
be too much to overcome new ownership? Like Commander's fans
kind of had a moment last year where it's like, oh,
we got freaking Dan Steyer's finally gone. We got rid
of all this bad juju. But it's it kind of
looks like more of the same outside of being a
(37:53):
horrible human being, right, and then just a lot of
new things, Like It's that's always intriguing to me.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
So much.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
New sparks interest in the league. We get a chance
to watch the Commanders up close and personal down here
for joint practices. The week of August seventeenth is the
game final roster thoughts, I think the offseason kind of
got them up for you, like a baseline level roster
that was non competitive down the stretch by the additions
they did make, even though they lost so many guys.
I still do think Terry mclaurin's a top ten receiver
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despite kind of regression last year, and that Johan Dotson
Kimball and they have some nice pieces on the offensive
line with Lucas Paul who is Pat or sorry Lucas,
Cornelius Lucas and Patrick Paul's brother Chris Paul, as well
as Andrew Wiley on the offensive line. I like the
combination of Deron Payne and Jonathan Allen inside along with
Armstrong and Fowler outside. It does suck that Jerson Newton
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had another surgery because I thought he'd be a fun
ad early on. Frankie Luvu go Koog's exactly the defense needed.
I also love getting Jeremy Chin on the back end,
but who replaces Kendall Fuller Because he's a great player
and now he's here, they didn't really replace him. I
do think rookie Mike Sandrastill from Michigan can be one
of the best slot cornerbacks from the first day he
gets on the football field. But last year Manuel Forbes,
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a healthy, inactive down the stretch who looks like he
weighs one hundred and fifty pounds man like, he is tiny,
and he was a first round draft pick. Benjamin Saint
Juice is an okay player, but beyond that, it's kind
of like by low and hope to hit gold across
that room. That typically does not work at this level.
What can they tell us with the Miami Dolphins, Like
I said, the New York Giants, I don't think much
entirely different stages of their team building cycle. How about
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division predictions and superlatives. I just think this division is bad.
I think the Cowboys big regression makes it not a
very enticing one to watch. It was fun, and the
Eagles and Cowboys are going back and forth. You add
in the Giants a couple of years ago making a
surprise run. But just outside of all that, like, the
Eagles to me are a really good looking football team,
and then you have a kind of mediocre team who's
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carried by a great quarterback and receiver and the rest
of the roster's kind of bad. And coaching is kind
of bad. And then two rosters that are nowhere near
close and the superlatives are mostly Cowboys. The best quarterback
in the division is Dak Prescott. Best player on offense
it's not a quarterback is Cede Lamb. The best player
on defense is no question. Michah Parsons. I put Ryan
day Ball is the best coach, but I'm kind of
defaulting to nobody because I just don't really like it
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at all.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
In the division, my.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Favorite rookie is Cooper Degen fantasy sleeper like I wanted
to put Ben snott sonnat from the Commanders, the rookie
tied ends. I like his game, but I feel like
it's too much of a sleeper, and so I'm gonna
go with Terry McLaurin. Is that crazy to call him
a sleeper after his value appears to have been depressed
more than ever has. I think he's one of the
best route runs in the National Football League and having
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somewhat consistency and competency at quarterback could help him get
back to that.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Fun episode, and that is the end of the non
Dolphins divisional previews. On Thursday, Will prev the AFC East
and then we'll go ahead and come back. Sorry, this
is for Thursday. For Monday will prev the AFC East.
Thursday will be the Dolphins Offense Review, Monday the Dolphins
Defense Review. And then guess what. Training camp is back
and I'm back working six days a week all day long,
so break is almost over. Lots of golf ahead for
(40:52):
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This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
He's got my hands in the playoffs? What is up Dolphins?
And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host,
Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, the penultimate divisional preview episode,
the last one before we get to our own division,
(00:39):
and we go to the East on the other side
of the league in the NFC Crazy Division with a
very clear line of demarcation, although that might have been
moved up one team this offseason. We'll break down all
of that, what the Dolphins can learn from the Cowboys
and Eagles, and what's next for.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Washington and the dream Man. Plus one of.
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Speaker 2 (01:10):
This is.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The Draft Time Podcast. May you kick it off with
the division champion from a season to go? Although the
more you go over the Dallas Cowboys off season, it
sure feels like they shouldn't be in this perch. Atop
the NFC East. They were twelve and five last year,
one and done after winning the division. After a nice
(01:33):
comeback in the NFC East, and this, I mean, quite
frankly is the NFC Dolphins, and everyone listening to this
show kind of gets that right. Elite offense directed by
a stellar quarterback and arguably the game's top wide receiver,
although we know our guy probably is the top one
depth across the skill groups, a damn good defense that
complements the offense, but just cannot get over that January hump.
(01:56):
Now they did get over the divisional hump, leading most
to believe they'd finally capture that elusive playoff win and
progress through the NFC and perhaps to their first conference
title game since the Super Bowl runs of those mid
nineties teams that I grew up on. Five regular season losses,
all on the road at the Cardinals, one of the
(02:17):
biggest upsets in the NFL last year, at the Niners
forty two to ten, at the Eagles at Buffalo thirty
one to ten, and then of course a Jason Sanders
buzzer beater down here, and then a home loss to
the Packers forty eight to thirty two. With that game
was actually forty eight to sixteen with like five minutes
to play in the fourth quarter, a total thrashing at
the hands of the Dallas Cowboys. Brian Schottenheimer is back,
(02:39):
but there is massive turnover elsewhere, including at the defensive
coordinator position. In fact, I believe it's an upgrade with
Mike Zimmer and the personnel.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Upheaval has been fast.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Plus they've not been their usual busy self bringing in
prize gems and free agency or trades. So there's some
consternation in Big d around one of the best rosters
they've had since the des Caught It days or maybe
even I don't know that Romo's first days in Dallas.
It's been a long time, and so into a new
season we go, and speaking of not making any prized moves,
(03:12):
I mean, this is the list of significant additions for
the Dallas Cowboys. Zeke Elliott, they just said goodbye to
him last year. Eric Kendricks, he's on his third team
in three years. And Tyler Geiton was probably a developmental
tackle taken in the first round out of Oklahoma on
the way out. Oh Buddy, Tony Pollard's gone. Michael Gallup
has gone, Tyron Smith after a Hall of Fame career
(03:34):
in Dallas has gone, Tyler Baddish has gone, Dorence Armstrong,
Dante Fowler, Jonathan Hankins, Neville Gallamore, Stefan Gilmour, jy Ron Curse,
and Layton vander esh retired. That is a significant group
of names. So what does this team do well, Well,
it's tough to know when they have that much turnover,
but we do know the offensive corps is largely together
and they anticipate and throw on time footballs out of breaks.
(03:57):
That marries up with their run action and action game
as well as anybody in the NFL, and Tua and
Tyreek are probably the only ones on the same level
or better I'd say better then Dak and CD on
these particular types of plays. They also have a diversity
of offensive weapons. Despite the losses, they still have Brandon Cooks,
who I think he got drafted in twenty fourteen. I
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think he might be the most underrated player or under
talked about player, and his being traded all over the
NFL doesn't help this case that we don't talk about
that much over the last decade in the NFL. I
think Jalen Tobert can play, Jake Ferguson's a total baller,
and Luke scoon Maker is coming along at tight end
as well. They do take away the football quite well,
and I don't think that will change with Mike zimmer
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into In fact, I think he could take them to
a different level with his ability to create pressures and
simulated pressures from fire zones and different games they want
to run up front. But it's tough to pinpoint what
this team does well with all this turnover outside of
that offensive core in that passing game. Because the running game,
I mean, that's where I start with the fatal flaw
of this run. Can the offense survive what to me
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looks like a completely lifeless running game, because I don't
think going back to Zeke, who is slow as hell
in this stage of his career and relying on a
scat back. Induce Vaughan, who I like for that role,
but he's more of like basically what Devon h Chan
was last year, like one hundred carries, right, I can't
give him more than that. I'm just not sure it
works the same, especially when you consider what's next in
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the fatal flawless no More. Tyron Smith no more, Tyler
Biadish and Beatis was okay, and Smith was often out
of the lineup, but again I thought Geiton was a
developmental tackle in the first round. Zach Martin's another year older,
but he's still a great player. But this team had
like the O line in the NFL for so long, right,
but it's kind of deteriorated now to where there's actual
question marks up and down that group. What else do
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they not do very well? And this was as much
schematically and like philosophically an issue as it was personnel
stuff last year. But they couldn't stop the run all
year long. I mentioned this in the Gallimore coverage this offseason.
They just seemed to put square pegs in round holes.
And again that the DC has changed, and in fact
that DC is now a head coach. But they so
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frequently played undersized in the box, and that's gonna have
to change. And Mike Zimmer's more of kind of that
old school big body like football is a physical game
type of coach, so I think that will change. But
they built this thing around that style with Demone Clark
is one of the top linebackers who was a safety.
I can't was at Marquise Bell, the guy they kept
bringing down from safety to play like a quasi linebacker role.
They're running like two hundred pound linebackers out there behind
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three hundred pound nose tackles. They're just giving up weight voluntarily.
In a game, it's all about size and mass and
moving people off the spot. So some interesting things about
this team are biggest story lines. It seems like every
year the head coach of the Cowboys is on the
hot seat, no matter what accomplishment or who it is.
But Mike McCarthy, pretty much since he was hired, it
was like, you need to go win playoff games or
else we're going to figure out something else. And last
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year's end of the season was not acceptable. You can't
lose at home in the playoffs. You can't lose at
home in the playoffs by essentially like four or five scores.
I know it got closer in the end with garbage time,
but what does he do, Like, what does Mike McCarthy
do well that sets him apart from the rest of
You know, they had the offensive change, and sure enough,
the Cowboys offense was good, but it was also good
under Kellen Moore of the year prior so I don't know.
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I feel like it's probably the last the last rodeo
unless they surprise people and make a deep run this year. Otherwise,
how the hell do they replace all the roster upheaval?
Like this is not a usual Dallas Cowboys offseason. Maybe
it's for the best in terms of not spending you know,
above board on free agents, but I think that's basically
a result of having to pay their own guys, which
that's the third storyline here. They haven't done that yet
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with Dak Prescott or Cdee Lamb, who they have to
bring back.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They absolutely have to.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'm sure it gets resolved before you play a game,
but it's on the list for now. My final roster
thoughts for the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty four. They're
still plenty of like here. The quarterback and the weapons
are very good, even if receiver is much thinner than
it has been in the past. But losing a couple
guys this offseason and the running back positions they total
wild card and saying wild card is probably just being
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nice because quite frankly, I think it's the worst room
in the National Football League. The line has legit questions
for the first time in a while, and nobody lost
more pass rushers than the Dallas Cowboys did. They do
still have Michael Parsons, who is the best football player
I've ever studied for a Dolphins game, Aaron Donald notwithstanding
back when we watched them in twenty twenty ahead of
Twoa's first career start, and DeMarcus Lawrence is still doing it.
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I don't think they really resolve their defensive tackle issue.
Is Mazzie Smith gonna kick back out to a three
technique where he's best ors he playing the nose tackle
again where he's kind of undersized. They get Trayvon Digs
back from the injury, but there's no way Deron Bland
can repeat a five pick six season again, right, So
it's like you kind of have to expect a regression
to the mean there with his individual performance and what
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else they have in that secondary actually is pretty damn good.
I like Molik Hooker a heck of a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
They brought back Jordan Lewis, which I thought was just
a massive move, one of the better slots in the
entire NFL. Donovan Wilson, Marquispell, gary On Conley, some players
that can factor in some playing time there and some
guys I like their game quite a lot. What can
they tell with the Miami Dolphins, Well, up until this offseason,
I thought you could basically hold up a mirror to
this team and see your own reflection on the other side.
I think this is one of the biggest regression candidates
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in the league. But despite all of that, it's funny
because regression typically comes when the quarterback gets hurt, or
they move on from the quarterback, or he falls off
into the abyss, and I don't think that's going to
happen with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But this team was.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Good last year, but you could see flaws, and I
think a lot of those flaws were picked apart even
further previously. You could chalk up, you know, how a
couple of bad bounces could drastically alter the narrative around
your football team, which I think happens all the time
in this league, and teams get misrepresented as a result
of that. And they were this close to knocking off
the Niners in the playoffs two years ago, after which
I think people forget. They did quell the narrative with
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a blowout win over the Tom Brady Bucks albeit a
very bad football team in that wild card round on
the road too, by the way, and the year before
that almost beat the Niners team at home, albeit that
the Shanahan and McDaniel Niners that they all beat but
lost because they couldn't get the ball clocked at the
end of the game. A team that has been a
consistent NF contender, and that's who they lost to two
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years ago as well, so or three years ago as well.
So they just they never did it, and now they
have to carry that baggage into a tough offseason. I
don't think it matters at all, but gosh, I would
love for us to get a couple of wins under
our belt to avoid this exact fate in terms of
how we're perceived across the National Football League. Second team
up today is a team that I'm gonna go ahead
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and spoil the ending for you all right now, that
I'm gonna pick to win the division. Not much of
a surprise here. I think it's the one really good
team the division, the Philadelphia Eagles, who finished eleven and
six last year, second in the division. They lost in
the wild card round thirty two to nine to the Buccaneers,
I remember texting my buddy JT, who worked here in
the video department, who has since left to Baltimore, best
of luck in the Queen City there, JT. But he's
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a diehard Eagles fan that I was texting him like,
I think you guys are gonna get a great break
here by the Rams pulling off the upset over the
Lions in Detroit, and then the Eagles beat the Bucks
on the road, and all of a sudden you have
a second round home playoff game against the Rams. And
of course neither of those worked out because I did
not foresee the Eagles collapse coming at all.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I don't think anybody did.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
First of all, from ten to one, from ten to
one to six losses in seven games, including games at
Seattle without Geno Smith and Drew Locke starting that football
game home for the five win Cardinals at the Tommy
DeVito Giants, and of course that was a rest game,
so I don't really put too much stock into it.
But then also three blowouts Dallas, San Francisco and a
playoff game against the Buccaneers, Like really remember when they
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beat the Chiefs on Monday night football and that was
a big win for US. Because we were trying to
kind of pace with the Chiefs for a top seeding
at the time. Then that overtime thriller over Buffalo that
I felt was like what gave us the AFC East.
Of course, the Titans lost change that, but they get
back to back wins over the Chiefs and Bills to
climb the ten and one and back to back weeks
the Super Bowl seemed like the only outcome that was
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there for this team. Instead, it's one of the biggest
collapses in the history of the National Football League, and
nobody seemed to have any answers for it. Offense was broken,
they lost their surge in the running game, they lost
their edge on defense. Just a super, super strange departure
from what we knew about this team through Thanksgiving. I mean,
talk about December collapses.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
My god. They didn't win a game.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
After that except for the season finale against the or
No who they beat they beat, like I think they
beat the Giants in like Week fifteen is what it was.
Big moves coming in. Saquon Barkley is the biggest of
all of them, I think in terms of his ability,
but Bryce Huff is the one that I'm most excited
about they bring back Chauncey Gardner Johnson after a one
year hiatus in Detroit. Matt Hennessy was a former high
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pick of the Falcons. He's now in the middle there,
trying to replace Jason Kelsey forgot his name forero point
three seconds. Zach Bond another first round I used to
like a lot from the Saints. Devin White trying to
resurrect his career. So was Makai Becton, and then their
first two picks Quinn and Mitchell and Cooper dejen Man.
That's a nice haul of defensive backs on the way
out of Vante Max is a nice slot player for them.
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Kevin byered a trade deadline acquisition that did not work out.
Jack driscoll is here. Suwa Opetta went to the Bucks
the offensive lineman. They lost two running backs, DeAndre Swift
in Boston Scott and they also saw Marcus Mariota leave
in division like Donathan McNabb once upon time to the
team in Washington. What they do well they add hats
in the running game. And they can do that because
the quarterback can run the football. They can do that
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because they can add tight ends to the formation and
run the ball from heavy alignments, but also incorporate a
vertical game in the passing game. Off of that, the
mix of power run game and ability to get vertical
from any position from whether it's a nasty split in
close to the formation or a plus split out wide,
really defines the idea of forcing the defense into uncomfortable
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personnel groupings from which they have to defend the entire field,
which is really challenging, especially in today's NFL. They also
are a short yardage guarantee right that didn't go away.
The brotherly shove is still there. They have a quarterback
that can power a lift like six hundred pounds or
squad or whatever the hell you call it, and that
helps them in a big way. But can they do
it without Jason Kelsey being there. I'm curious to see
that they rush the quarterback. That never seems to change.
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They always have multiple Bowls's in the chamber there to
go after quarterbacks. I think they got even better with
Bryce Huff replacing Hassan Reddick, who is kind of like
on hiatus for the New York Jets. I think they
got way better down the middle with n Kobe Dean
coming back trying to kind of resurrect the career of
Devin White, which we'll see how that works out. Drafting
Jeremiah Trotter's boy junior as it were, and also bringing
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back CJGJ and by the way, corner was a big
issue for them, but I think now it's a strength
because they got my favorite corner the entire drafting, Quinian
Mitchell and rookies playing cornerback can be a dicey prospect,
but I think he has the best ability to do that.
And then Cooper Dejen who I think is a total
playmaker in the defense who can kind of help them
mix and match. Their defensive backfield is so dynamic now
with both he and Chauncey Gardner Johnson, who can really
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take that thing to the next level. What's the concern
or a fatal flaw on this football team? Their ability
to be on time and rhythm and short intermediate passing
games so weird because that was such a part of
what made me personally not love Galen Hurts his game
out of college, but he developed it and got better
at it because he's a I go hard worker who
just gets better. But we kind of saw revert back
last year and he had this pinch it to kind of,
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you know, bail on clean pockets. And if you don't
have the ability to stay on schedule with the short
intermediate passing game, then you can't build your vertical passing
game off that. You can't run the football off of that,
and the offense as a result became a shell of
its former self.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Can they bounce back from that?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
We'll find out also what is the offensive identity because
they kind of became Wanstead's Dolphins last year. Run run,
and then pass when you have to on third down,
which is why passing numbers were what they were back
in the you know, before the shift of NFL football
because every passing, every throw was basically third and eight
plus and quarterbacks it's tough to complete footballs into seven
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man coverages when they're playing, you know, off off the
line like that. You'll just never make a living in
the NFL playing run, run, pass. And then do they
have the fortitude to get over the ending of the
season or getting back to what made them great because
they became a shell of themselves. And I think that's
reflection of the head coach and the rest of the
entire program there, and it's all still in tact. Curious
to see about that. Now, interesting things about them. Our
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biggest storylines is Nick sirianni As is as accomplished as
they come from a head coaching standpoint, like he's basically
got that team into surprise playoff berth their first year.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They ran rough.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Shot over the league and route to a Super Bowl
loss two years ago, and then last year we're ten
to one and now they finally face their first bit
of adversity under him. And yet they have new coordinators
on either side, which I said that was more of
the same. I'm talking about the you know, the GM
head coach. They brought a new coordinator, so he kind
of has to deliver this year because even if if
it goes wrong, like do do you scapegoat the cornetors
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once again? And even though I disagree with that, that market's
going to roast him alive if they don't make the
postseason and a run on top of that. So Kellen
Moore is the new OC, and he went from head
coaching candidate to his third team in three years and
it hasn't really worked out for him. I am super
curious to see how he constructs his third new offense
with entirely different style of quarterback, like going from Dak
to Herbert, totally different. Right, One is a polished professional quarterback,
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one is a lively arm who's got talent but not
much else. And then the third is now this guy
that's you know, more running than he is passing at
this stage of his career, but an ultimate character and
leader as well. So just a really interesting dynamic there
with Kellen Moore coming over. And of course the final
thing I look at here is what does Vic Fangio
do to the defense. I hope he, you know, is
as conceded and kind of on his own, you know,
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personal mission as he was here with Philadelphia, but we'll
find out he has lots of talent to work with there.
With the Eagles final roster thoughts, look, I talked about
Jalen Hurts that are a little bit, but I'm still
a big fan of his. I think he needs for
the development from how he plays from the pocket. I
think that AJ Brown and DeVante Smith is the only
twosome I'd put close to Reek and Waddle, and then
adding Saquon Barkley is so special. Their special explosion to
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an offense that needs a weapon back there in the
worst way. They were always kind of like by committee.
I just I like the idea of having, you know,
a true talent back there next to a true talent
quarterback because it's kind like Lamar Jackson, where you get
the most of Lamar's running ability when you have a
running back that can threaten defense is in a similar way.
And then also, how do you not love Dallas Gotter
is another go to guy. Beyond that a little bit thin,
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I think the offensive line is still pretty good and
you just watched just you watch. They're gonna get Mackay
Beckton playing up to his draft stock here or draft
status here before you know it. I think this defense
is still crazy talented again. I expect Huff to make
a huge impact and help them get the most out
of both Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Inside.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Milton Williams one of the best defensive tackles you never
heard of. I think there's plenty of pass rush. We
discussed the secondary. It's an impressive roster. I've always been
a big fan of Howie Roseman, how he approaches things,
and he talked about this about how they didn't anticipate
this year's draft class being that great, and so they
went out and a signed a bunch of teams practice
squad players in the last year. They just have this
certain forethought that I think puts them ahead of the
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rest of the league in a lot of respects. What
can they tell us with the Miami Dolphins that one
stretch of games doesn't have to be what defines you
much less one game? Right?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
We talk about that every week in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'd be shocked if the Eagles are not right back
up atop this division, but also back on top of
the NFC in terms of biggest challengers to the Lions
and the Niners in the conference this year. Let's go
ahead and take our first break right there. Come back
on the other side, and welcome in my guest Bydon Matos,
the Dolphins offensive lineman from the International Pathway Program.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You don't want to miss that. He is a character
and a half.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That's next Draft Time Podcast to your host, Travis Wingfield,
brought to you by automation. What up Dolphins? Travis Wingfield
here on the Draft Time Podcast. My guest today is
new Dolphins tackle by On Mattos.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I get it. We good to go. Okay, we want
to start back over.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I was really worried about gett your name wrong there,
So thanks for hanging with me tough here. First of all,
how's it going, man? It's a kind of probably a
little bit of a tidal wave of just new stuff
for you here joining the Dolphins and getting innudated with everything.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
How's it been going?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Man? I thank you so much, you know, for I
mean here today anytime, and man, it's been great.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
It's been great.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Let you know, a great opportunity, you know, take advantage
of every moment that I hear in the building around
this great organization and great people.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Man, its been great.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So football is a little bit new, not super new,
but a little bit. I'm curious how much you were
exposed to football as a child growing up the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Zero?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I played football back back when
I'm from It was like baseball player and basketball players
most of the time. So man, zero zero back around
and food, But I never never know the sport, only
to see in movies and like TV shows back at home.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
But that's like nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So you're watching like the blind Side, Michael, or does
this work on those?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I mean so many baseball players come from there. Right,
So you mentioned that my favorite player, I am a
marriage fans of Julio Rodriguez go in that's my guy.
But you mentioned basketball too, and you played a lot
of hoop coming up to right when you start playing basketball?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well, I stopped playing basketball as I was a key,
so I played basketball and baseball together. And I had
an opportunity to come to the state to be able
to go to high school here when a high school
channel with Tinnessee. And after that I got opportunity to
go to the League one college to play to play basketball.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And then they got you on the football team too, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So yeah, I went to Unity of Mexican on my
first one year try for two, University of South Florida.
And when I was at Florida, that's well, all the
MINIU start happened. The coaches to see me in like
in the team meeting room everywhere like that guy. Yeah,
usually play some foodball. Come on, man, let's give you
a try.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That's too funny.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I remember like in high school they would all the
coaches would always try to recruit, uh, you know, different
players in different sports. But like that's an obvious one like,
let's get that guy in some shoulder pads and see
what he can do. What was that like the first
time you threw on paths and went and tried to
block somebody had to have been tough man, like a
brand new sport.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So well, pretty much when I was when I was
played in hos Cap in college, I played defensive line,
so I played the end and special team. So I
remember my first time and my first day in the building.
I used if they put me past and harm first
day in I remember I put my my past like outside.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Like Southway, so and I remember the helmet.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I don't know how to take it off, so I
used to leave it on the whole practice. I never
think it was the moment I walked there to the
moment I need somebody to help me, said it was tough.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
That's too good man. You're just sitting there. But out
here you have to get it off so you can
get a little bit of aerror.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Oh yeah, needed some bread.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
In humidity, right, But you're I mean it's pretty warm.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I'm from Dominican. Probably I went to school in
time past. It's pretty much the same.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So you're used to it. I guess you kind of
get used to it, but maybe not really. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I think it's hot as hell all the time, but
maybe you just you just deal with it better. How So,
in in your basketball career and making that transition, I
always love to ask multi sport athletes is how do
you think basketball helped you and your football skill set?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It happened a lot of ways because I played system
like you know, it would have be able to move sideways,
you know, to move back like up and down with
the wrong you know, I would have moved your fee
to the transition live very good to football.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So that's great. But man, but food is a different sport.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Like you know, when you when you when you watch
it for the basketballs prepared to preparestor you'll be like,
oh yeah, I can't play football, but.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
The way around not so much.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You don't know, you're not inside, like the deep deep inside.
So a lot of basketball guys like even me, you know,
I can easy sport, but man, nothing around here.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Not quite. What was that first moment of like real
contact for you? Did you?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I mean, you're here, so you had to kind of
like it a little bit right, Like you probably gravitated
towards the contact of football, right.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, well the team was that. I remember the first
time real contact low. I remember I got here in
my block sign I blend deficient and then motioned the
tight end tight end by onto the other side.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I said, man, I love this. I love the moment.
I was the moment that I fell in love.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
With the game came out of basketball court.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, I said, I I love it. I have to
get up now, let's get it, let's do their game.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So I love it, I love I love.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They That's really cool to hear. So I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You know, the International Pathway Program has provided a lot
opportunities for players overseas, and we've seen some guys make,
you know, their debuts and even some guys turn into
massive contracts shortened my lot as a great example of that.
I'm curious how familiar you are with with those guys
and how important their ability to have this chance.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
How has that been important to.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
You men started off with these The IPP is just
something that means a lot to me, and something this
like I take it that would be hard, like it's home.
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
They give me an.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Opportunity to step in the NFL team stepping the you
know in the NFL field, this gray main see those
guys take it to that label even me everything I
thought to Jordan, he's my guy to be in the
phone a lot of times talking hanging out to Jordan
and be like Bir like this is amazing, Like I
see what you're doing, like I'm leaving it now and
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I and that it's not easy. So I see how
how deep you had you have to take it, like
take it And man's that drive me every day Like
I want to get to a level like that, like
I wanted to like it. It's the it's like it's awesome,
like they're feeling, you know, like you don't know nothing
too evil when you're learning and keep pushing and pushing
day by day.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Man, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That's really cool. Yeah, it's it's Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It seems to be a common theme from this team
as guys have a real desire to get better at
this game and try to do you know, do right
by the city of Miami and win a championship for
the team.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So it's really cool to have those types of personalities.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Has it given you any advice as far as like
the best ways to get in right away and kind
of make your mark. Like what he told you has
been a helpful advice for you.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, well he always say that'd be the first one
and the last one out.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
That would take a long way. But I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You're doing, but make sure you're doing something to take
you get into the next label. It's not to take
you get into the next label to help their organization,
not to help like why what so what are you
doing that can help the Miami Dolphins? And there's this's
that's all about, like what I'm doing everytime coming field,
what I'm doing to put myself in the best position
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to be successful and to put myself in the best
position to help my team and my teammates.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's a good organization wide mantra there. We're all trying
to make the best decisions for the Miami Dolphins, just
as you are. So one more question here for you
back on what do you hope to accomplished the season?
What would what would your first year in the NFL
a successful one look.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Like for you?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Mall loning mons from my guys, loaning for everybody in
my room, learning like and like to watch other people
do it, you know, like I like to watch the
bed and they actually amazing, you know, learning for them
so on the once that I came for with the
guys that stay around. Hey, man, I want to win
a super Bowl in the NFL. Man, that would be amazing,
(26:09):
like Frest Stye in the NFL first time win the
super Bowl and person, no, go may I want to
start to step in the field at this one time
in the year, you know, I start stepping there and like,
get it. Field play in the NFL and the n
NFL game.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Go knock somebody on their ass.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Ro oh, yeah, let's get it. Be appreciate man, Thank
you so much, Thank you so much, appreciation And there
he goes. I told you he was fun. Let's go
ahead and take our last break right there, come back
on the other side and do our best to get
through the final two teams before we go back to
the Dolphins and the AFC East. On the next edition
of the Draft Time podcast, That's next DT your host
Travis Wingfield, brought to you by AutoNation. I sort of
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went through these next two teams quickly, expeditiously, if you will,
because I don't think there's a lot to talk about
for the new York Giants and the Washington Commands. We
start with the GM man six and eleven, third in
the NFC East and a regression to the mean. Were
a team, it was the twenty twenty three New York Giants,
an unlikely run in twenty twenty two to the postseason
(27:06):
with a win on the road against the Kirk Cousins
led Vikings comes back to earth where that I thought
they always kind of belonged. With a six win campaign
marred largely by an injury plugs He's into their quarterback,
and as we get the special look behind the scenes
from them in their off season pursuits on hard Knocks,
we see that Daniel Jones is still, for some reason.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
The priority there, even if it.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Cost him Saquon Barkley in the process. More on that
in a moment. They began the season two to eight
with wins over the Cardinals and Commanders, and talk about
flubbing it up down the stretch, like you could have
they picked six. They got Lake Neighbors, but they could
have been so much higher and maybe even had to
run at Kayleb Williams. But their third and fourth wins
were over the Commanders and Patriots. The latter being a
ten to seven barnbar that nobody wanted to win. This
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run included a forty point loss, an eighteen point loss
twenty one, fifteen, twenty four, and thirty two point losses.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
They were awful.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
They got a signature win over the Packers on Monday
Night football, the same damn night we lost the freaking Titans,
and they also lost three more before beating the Eagles
backups in the finale. A rough season for a team
that reflected that in their roster. I thought the last
two years really but we get the actual evidence of
who this team is and we'll see what they are
this year. With their big moves this offseason. They go
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get Brian Burns, and we saw some discussion behind, you know,
going up to get him in terms of trading draft
picks to go get the dynamic pass pressure from Carolina.
I think it's a good addition there for what they
have in that defensive front. Defense is kind of coming
together in some ways, especially upfront. They add Germaine Illuminor
to the offensive line. That was kind of the big move.
They're kind of expecting progress from somebody like Evan Neil,
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who's been horrendous his so far in his NFL career.
They get Drew Locke, they get Jalen Mill meals Jalen
Mills and the Patriots. Jordan Phillips, you guys know him.
He is now with the Giants, Alan Robinson and Devin Singletary, Like,
this is an offense that is trying to, you know,
basically not be the thirty second skill group in the NFL.
And those are the moves Robinson and Singletary. Now, don't
(29:02):
get me wrong. Malik Neighbors is the big, big, big
ad here and he's fantastic, but it's gonna be basically
a rookie and Jalen Hyatt trying to get things going
for that passing game. Not to mention, Darren Waller has
now gone too, and so is Sakuon Barkley. He's out,
Ben Bredeson's out, Cam Brown's down here, Xavier McKinney has gone,
Throwing Shepherd's gone, Ashawn Robinson, Tyrod Taylor flipped to the
(29:23):
team in the Green from the New York and then
Jihad Ward also exited stage left.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
What do they do well?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I have one thing in here because I think they
should be able to generate pass rush with four because
Burns is elite and requires multiple you know, four set
of eyes, two sets of eyes, four eyeballs on him,
matth Dexter Lawrence even better than that, and Kavon Thibodeau
is a guy that man, it's he's not Evan Neil.
For sure, He's more productive and been a better player,
but there's kind of like this roller coaster wave that
(29:49):
he's on that he has to find a way to
get off and become. You know what I thought he
was as a freshman at Organ is the next great pass,
the next Miles Garrett in the NFL, and there is
great speed all over the side level that defense with
Bobby o'carake A Zizo Jilari, and then I think Boogie
bash him was a guy that could have a nice
little breakout year here for the Giants, what's the concern
or fatal flaw? I could tell you everything about this team,
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but they couldn't block anybody last year. They complained about
that in Hard Knocks. They have easily to me the
worst skill group player a group of skill players, especially
when you factor in Saquon Barkley's injuries, and then like,
we don't really have to go beyond this because it's
been five years and the quarterback hasn't had a good
year yet, so what are we doing? You know? And
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then the secondary struggled last year and got worse, losing
his Zabra McKinney. That guy's a freaking stud and now
he's gone too. So I just I don't know. I
don't see it interesting things about this team biggest storylines.
Just seems like such an obvious team candidate for a
massive overhaul next offseason. And even though I think Dave
Ball's a good football coach, head coaches don't usually survive that,
which is a shame because he never got to choose
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his own quarterback. Like, if it goes the way I
think it's gonna go this year, he goes down swinging
with three years of Daniel Owns, like, woo, you freaking do.
And then also there's a lot of talent in that
front seven, and Malik Neighbors is a guy that I
think you can build an offense around, and so if
it goes the way I think it will, they're not
gonna win a bunch of games. It could become and
it's the New York freaking Giants, right, and a very
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attractive destination for a head coach and perhaps a high
draft pick, But then which court you want? Carson Beck
cam Ward's the guy I would take. But if you
don't get the first overall pick, he probably don't get
an optional to the guy like that final roster thoughts.
I just don't know what the calling card is here
or the plan really. I mean, they say as much
and hard knocks that you don't pay a forty million
dollars quarterback to hand it off to a twelve million
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dollar running back. But the issue at that statement starts
with the production of the forty million dollar quarterback who's
throwing sixty two touchdowns forty picks. And let me go
ahead and get in close to the microphones for you
here forty six career fumbles. That is a potential for
eighty six giveaways compared to sixty two touchdowns over five years.
He's got a career six point three yards per attempt,
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eighty five point two passer rating. I remember when I
was doing lockdown coverage back in twenty nineteen, I was
fighting everybody online about how good Kyler Murray was and
how terrible Daniel Jones was.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
And Kyler's a good player. I think he's the top
twelve quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
He's not as good I thought he's gonna be so far,
and injuries and coaching and upheaval there has played a
factor in as well as his own shortcomings. But Daniel
Jones pretty spot on. Guy can't play football. I love
the league neighbors, and I think he can carry an offense.
But the number two, like who is it? It's is
Jalen Hyatt. I suppose Wandell Robinson. I love Andrew Thomas,
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but Evan Neil has been atrocious at right tackle. We
beat him to a drum last year. They haven't done
a lot Tequelda concerns about the interior offensive line just
like just seems like an offensive will have the exact
same issues to me. And then on Dee, I mentioned
all the names we love upfront, but I think Deontay
Banks is a hit at cornerback, Cordell flock and play
a little bit. I like Tyler Nuban in the safety
in the second round from Minnesota, but the depth beyond
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that it's questionable. So this is to me as a
candidate for a top five pick next year. What can
it tells about the Miami Dolphins. I think there was
a lot to glean from both Dallas and Philadelphia. Nothing
about the Giants or Commanders can inform us about your
Miami Dolphins. Speaking of the Commandos, let's go ahead and
do that real quick. Go ahead, and time to start
thinking about maybe beginning to you know, as everyone knows,
(33:11):
go ahead and take command. If you haven't seen that video,
I referenced it all the time here on the show.
They when they first signed Carson Wentz a few years back.
You know how they do like the hype video like
we did with McDaniel when he wass on the plane
to Miami talking to TUA. They had Carson Wentz do
this like phone take where he tried to like do
their hashtag and that was like the best take they had. Like, hey,
(33:32):
reshoot it, do it in their take. Maybe don't do
it at all, because it was the worst hype video
I've ever seen in my entire life. So the Commandos
four and thirteen last in the NFC East, and honestly,
I thought they were a better team than the Giants
last year, and they're better than the record was, especially
before that final month of the season when things just
went off. The Rails entirely, and you know, they got
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rid of Jack del Rio, who's a total ding dong,
and then Ron Rivera replaced him as a play caller
on defense, which was like the lateral move. But somehow
I remember we hit that stretch last year for the
Dolphins of Raiders, Jets, Commanders, Titans, and I was saying,
like the Commanders of the one team this list that
I think can threaten us because of their explosiveness on
offense and a quarterback who can run a little bit
(34:12):
and get hot and create some magic. But it was
actually the easiest game we played because we blew them
out more than anybody else. But they were also in
the midst of a downward spiral at that point. It
started earlier. They were actually four and five before a
narrow loss to Seattle, then sided losses as the Giants
and Cowboys, and the biggest one was to us, and
then they didn't win again the rest of the year.
So from four and five to four and thirteen nets
(34:33):
and the second pick in the draft, a coaching change,
a brand new quarterback, and it is cool to see
Dan Quinn back in a head coaching position. My former
boss here, the late great Jason Jenkins loved him some DQ,
and he knew him well from working at various other
stops across the national Football lead with d Q, so
I just wanted to mention that every time I see
Dan Quinn, I always think about Jason Jenkins. Rest in peace,
big fellow, big moves here. They brought in Austin Eckler
(34:57):
zach Ertz, like what year is a dog? They brought
into Tyler Bionis to play center, and Marcus Mariota is
a new backup quarterback there. I like the moves On
defense though, Dorince Armstrong Dante Fowler is a really nice
pass rush duo. Frankie Luvu Go Koogs is like the
perfect linebacker fit for this defense. Bobby Wagner, I think
is several years past his prime, but that's cool. Jeremy
Chin and Tyler Owens is a fun safety combo. And
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then of course, in the first round of the draft,
Jade and Daniels out of LSU by way of Arizona State,
which I watched a lot of those ASU games, and
I get, we developed, we grow, we progress, but there's
a lot of bad tape on this guy. On the
way out. A couple of quarterbacks Jacoby Brissett and Sam Howell.
I still think Sam Howe can play ball. Antonio Gibson
exits stage left of the Patriots. Curtis Samuel comes up
(35:39):
to Buffalo to stay in the AFC East. Nick Gates
also exits Casey two Hill Kendall Fuller is a Miami Dolphin,
and Cameron curl also exits.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
That's a lot of talent leaving the building there as well.
What do they do well?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
It's always tough to know when you have this amount
of turnover, but the entire staff wholesale changes up and
down the roster. If we go off Dan Quinn in
Dallas and the import of so many cowboys like okay,
so it's I guess it's cover three, which is a
version of defense and only plays anymore. I think the
vision is to play the light boxes they played there
and be super athletic and be able to run on
(36:11):
defense and play different coverages with different guys playing different
spots in those coverages, while also running the football and
controlling the game on offense. Does any of this apply
to twenty twenty four? I don't think so personally. Now
they do have a Playbecker quarterback who I think needs
to learn how to play the position at the NFL level,
which is a pretty big thing to have to learn
how to do. But with weapons they have, I think
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they'll be able to generate explosive plays down the field.
With the quarterback that can do that. What's the concern
or the fatal flaw? I mean the whole damn operation,
the obligatory quarterback. You know, Ricky quarterback mentioned goes here.
I do like the way Jade and Daniels approaches the game.
I think will get better and improve as he goes along.
It might take some years for this program to come together,
but I think he has kind of the right head
(36:52):
on his shoulders. I think there could be some growing pains,
to put it nicely, with a new skin scheme that
is spearheaded by Cliff Kingsbury. He came back, okay, I
mean you know they couldn't. He couldn't figure out Kyler
Murray in Arizona. How's it going to be indifferent?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
The coverage in the back end was way way too
much to overcome last year to kind of negate what
was a decent pass rush despite trading off some key
parts and I don't think it got any better this offseason.
Some interesting things or storylines about them. I can't wait
to watch Daydon Daniels play. I've I've always thought they
had good playmakers. Even with Curtis Samuel Gone. I think
he matches what they have on offense, but I still
have a lot of questions about his game. Kingsbury's return
(37:32):
it fascinates me. It wasn't good the first time around.
I don't expect to see why it changes. Dan Quinn
back in the head coaching chair, but is his you know,
kind of antiquated view on things, is that going to
be too much to overcome new ownership? Like Commander's fans
kind of had a moment last year where it's like, oh,
we got freaking Dan Steyer's finally gone. We got rid
of all this bad juju. But it's it kind of
looks like more of the same outside of being a
(37:53):
horrible human being, right, and then just a lot of
new things, Like It's that's always intriguing to me.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
So much.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
New sparks interest in the league. We get a chance
to watch the Commanders up close and personal down here
for joint practices. The week of August seventeenth is the
game final roster thoughts, I think the offseason kind of
got them up for you, like a baseline level roster
that was non competitive down the stretch by the additions
they did make, even though they lost so many guys.
I still do think Terry mclaurin's a top ten receiver
(38:18):
despite kind of regression last year, and that Johan Dotson
Kimball and they have some nice pieces on the offensive
line with Lucas Paul who is Pat or sorry Lucas,
Cornelius Lucas and Patrick Paul's brother Chris Paul, as well
as Andrew Wiley on the offensive line. I like the
combination of Deron Payne and Jonathan Allen inside along with
Armstrong and Fowler outside. It does suck that Jerson Newton
(38:39):
had another surgery because I thought he'd be a fun
ad early on. Frankie Luvu go Koog's exactly the defense needed.
I also love getting Jeremy Chin on the back end,
but who replaces Kendall Fuller Because he's a great player
and now he's here, they didn't really replace him. I
do think rookie Mike Sandrastill from Michigan can be one
of the best slot cornerbacks from the first day he
gets on the football field. But last year Manuel Forbes,
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a healthy, inactive down the stretch who looks like he
weighs one hundred and fifty pounds man like, he is tiny,
and he was a first round draft pick. Benjamin Saint
Juice is an okay player, but beyond that, it's kind
of like by low and hope to hit gold across
that room. That typically does not work at this level.
What can they tell us with the Miami Dolphins, Like
I said, the New York Giants, I don't think much
entirely different stages of their team building cycle. How about
(39:22):
division predictions and superlatives. I just think this division is bad.
I think the Cowboys big regression makes it not a
very enticing one to watch. It was fun, and the
Eagles and Cowboys are going back and forth. You add
in the Giants a couple of years ago making a
surprise run. But just outside of all that, like, the
Eagles to me are a really good looking football team,
and then you have a kind of mediocre team who's
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carried by a great quarterback and receiver and the rest
of the roster's kind of bad. And coaching is kind
of bad. And then two rosters that are nowhere near
close and the superlatives are mostly Cowboys. The best quarterback
in the division is Dak Prescott. Best player on offense
it's not a quarterback is Cede Lamb. The best player
on defense is no question. Michah Parsons. I put Ryan
day Ball is the best coach, but I'm kind of
defaulting to nobody because I just don't really like it
(40:04):
at all.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
In the division, my.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Favorite rookie is Cooper Degen fantasy sleeper like I wanted
to put Ben snott sonnat from the Commanders, the rookie
tied ends. I like his game, but I feel like
it's too much of a sleeper, and so I'm gonna
go with Terry McLaurin. Is that crazy to call him
a sleeper after his value appears to have been depressed
more than ever has. I think he's one of the
best route runs in the National Football League and having
(40:26):
somewhat consistency and competency at quarterback could help him get
back to that.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Fun episode, and that is the end of the non
Dolphins divisional previews. On Thursday, Will prev the AFC East
and then we'll go ahead and come back. Sorry, this
is for Thursday. For Monday will prev the AFC East.
Thursday will be the Dolphins Offense Review, Monday the Dolphins
Defense Review. And then guess what. Training camp is back
and I'm back working six days a week all day long,
so break is almost over. Lots of golf ahead for
(40:52):
me this week. Go ahead and check me on Instagram
if you want to check out my golf swinging my
progress there. In the meantime, you all please be sure
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Dolphins Today, media availabilities, draft time content, and so much more,
(41:14):
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Until next time. Finn's up, camel On Cameron Daddy, He's
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