August 21, 2025 • 31 mins
The final practice of training camp 2025 bought in-state rival Jacksonville down for a joint session. Travis is taking you through the red hot day from the defense - led by a pair of Trevor Lawrence pick-sixes - and an early touchdown barrage by Tua-led Miami offense. Full notes, audio from Mike McDaniel, Tagovailoa, Aaron Brewer, Jason Marshall Jr., Ollie Gordon and Aaron Brewer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Drivetowntown, the Trap Swing Weave he Go feature
feature feature on the intro.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfold. On today's show, Camp
is a rap.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We made it. We made it here.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The Jags were in town today. Dolphins got after Trevor Lawrence.
The offense started hot, Jags Edges made some big plays,
but Miami bounces back late.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We'll do all of the notes.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We'll hear from Tua, from McDaniel, from Aaron Brewer, from
Ollie Gordon, from Jason Marshall Jr. From the Baptist Hill
Studios inside the Baptist Hell Training Complex.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
This is the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Today. We made it. Just like that, training camp has concluded.
I would say the Dolphins improved their joint practice record
to two and two. Will that be enough to get
into the postseason. We're gonna have to find out the
results from Seattle and Green Bay later on today.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm just kidding. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
But it was a dominant day for the defense and
a day of back and forth on the offensive side
that began with a bunch of chunk touchdowns from the
high red zone and sprinkled in some explosives in between.
Jags play blow ups, play deconstructions. I would say we're
gonna go ahead and jump right in here and start
with I guess the ominous news, if you want to
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call it that. Jalen Wright and aj Henning both exited
practice and went straight into the medical facility after their injuries,
and Jordan Brooks got nicked up late. I'm quite certain
that Jordan is fine. But like Diane Mayan, like what
is going on out here? Reek a Chan Austin, Jalen Wright,
Alex Madison, Darren Waller, Julian Hill's been off to the side,
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cater Coo who out for the year, The three offensive
Linemen where the Simpsons meme where Abe almost at Abe Lincoln,
where Abe Simpson walks into the restaurant, puts his hat
on the hook, does a little lap, comes right back
out and exits the door once again. All three of
those guys were here for less than a week before
they got hurt. Andrew my leam Mikenberg already burns. Jason
Matrie back in the spring, like Diariel, Myron is getting
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crazy out there. I did want to start with this
because to me. It felt instructive and I hope it's
a good news thing here for Devon a Chan And
I saw Austin Jackson moving around today pretty good as well.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But I want to start here because McDaniel talked.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
About a Chan and it's not that unlike Jalen Waddle
a couple of years ago when he missed like most
of training camp and we didn't know what you were
going to get in week one from him, and then
the first drive of the Chargers game he has that
thirty five yard catching around.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's like, oh, he's he's fine.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And that part kind of reminds me of a CHAN
where coach talked about Waddald that year having a great
spring and start of camp which afforded him the ability
to miss some time without being too impacted by those
lack of reps. Here's coach on Devon ah Chan and
this should be enough to get you excited about the
third year running backs prospects here heading into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The you know, unintended consequence or the opportunity in the
adversity of any of the players specifically, you know, uh,
a guy like Devon where he's out so other people
get ops. So there's you know, one thing that people
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don't really know about Devon is he has a complete
ownership of the playbook, absolute ownership. And what is important
about that, well, uh, all on all the plays that
you don't get the ball, are you contributing to the
success of the play So it's you know, force the
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group to uh, you know, hold that down. And there's
a lot of peer pressure within the team to execute
your job. So we're finding out how much guys will
be able to be used by how they It's not
not like, hey, that was a big run. We were
talking every day about Hey, identifying something to fix in
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your game and then watching people adjust or not adjust,
and that's how you earn your opportunities. That I think
what you're looking for. I think that the rooms looking
for and they're trying to earn right now in front
of their teammates so that you know, ultimately, dispersion of
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the football is the most powerful weapon you can you
can do against any defense. So whether that's using or
changing running backs and keeping them fresh, or or distributing
among all thought other four eligibles on each offensive play.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
That that's what we're looking for.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
We want a team not to know how we're going
to attack them and utilize their weaknesses to our strengths.
And so today's an important practice for everybody, including the
running backs.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And I just I think that would be a big
deal if Devon can kind of be even more in
tuned what the offense wants to accomplish from you know,
pass protection, from routes, inside adjustments, and you know, reading
the angles of his blocks and trusting the scheme to
develop things in a certain way. And if he goes
another step in that direction with a healthy season, like
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he's one of the most explosive players in the National
Football League. As for the day of production, I thought
the day was a lot like camp. Offensively, good start,
lack of production in the middle, good finished. Abram Brewer
talked about that after practice.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I feel like we started off as zech hew we
needed to. We had like a little bumps to we
have practice, but I feel like we got back on
trad close to the end.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And then I wanted to ask Toua because we got
him for probably the last time before coltsweak here this
week today, I should say, and I wanted to ask
him about the concept of camp where actually real quick
let's back up on that, because someone asked him what
I felt like was a better lead into that question
in the first answer here. So here's Tua on the
difference between training camp this year and his previous five
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seasons in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
It's really the process versus the result, I would say
in the previous ones is more so trying to find
the big plays, trying to get a result out of that,
if you will, versus going through the process. I think
as you go through the process, you're a little more
present than trying to think that this is going to
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be open and then try to make it open in
your mind. So just going through the process, seeing the defense,
throwing what's there, then moving on from it, and if
it comes back and they take it away, then you
continue to go through that process.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
But I think it keeps me present.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And then his answer to my question about the concept
of camp being about the training right, not about the
result and progressing to get yourself ready for the season,
how would you assess the twenty practices that they've had
you've had so far? In that answer coming immediately at
the conclusion of practice number twenty itself, here's quarterback one
talking about.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
That I think it made us as a team, you know,
a lot better focused on the right things, not focused
on the results of the play, but focused on their fundamentals,
their techniques, what they had done in individual and how
they transitioned that to team periods and.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
What that looked like.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
And if they transitioned that and it didn't work out, well,
then you can look at, Okay, what else are we doing?
What else are we not doing coaching wise and player
wise to get us in that position to where we
need to be offense and defensively. So I would say
it's a continued grind. It's not something that, Okay, we
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go through the process and this is where the process ends.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
It's an everyday thing.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And to a start of this day, red hot and
it began with the very first throw, an absolute dot
in one on ones to des Gridge had a half
step on the defense. I wanted to ask two with this,
but I couldn't quite get it in. And it kind
of harkens back to like the Ryan Tannehill days where
he could hit guys on these deep shots. But Mike
Wallace was never really one to get in sync with Tannehill.
And you know, I never thought Tannehill's strength was his
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ability to throw with touch. You could see that on
like little screens and you know, slow developing routes of
the perimeter. But with Tua, that's one of the best
aspects of his game, right, the way he can layer
and put touch on the football. But I was curious
about how his adjustment goes between throwing deep shots to
Reek and Waddle, you know noted sub four three forty guys,
and then getting deep looks to the rest of the
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receivers who are a tenth or maybe two tenths of
a second slower than that. It's a different football, right,
and I think it's great work for exactly what we
saw today. The biggest play opportunities in the passing game
today were missed one on one shots to the boundary,
which is the short side of the field where you
put your you know, your X receiver and your X
eraser on defense over to that side and you roll
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your safety help to the other side of.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
The field, the wide side.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And in this offense, if a team does that, you know,
you probably get a lot of opportunities to go vertical.
If it's Molik, if it's d if it's you know,
Nick Westbrook, A Kine who has a little bit more
of an X receiver profile than those other guys, or
maybe Taj Washington, who runs closer to what reakan wattall
do more on him than just one second. So we've
we got the one on one deep shot to d
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and that was a completion, but he also just missed
Tua did in a team period one that I think
would have changed the perception of practice. Two of those
rather from the Dolphins like, oh, they won this practice,
to oh they dominated today against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Both
those passes were off the fingertips of D S Gridge,
em A Leak Washington, who again are four to five
guys right, probably more like two and a half two
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and a half tenths of a second slower than Recan Waddle,
which is a step or two right.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But Tua talked after practice about those guys and Tyreek
and Waddle being in and out of practice, with Wattle
having some days off here and there. Wattle was in
for some of the work but not his usual full workload.
So we'll go ahead and start here with Tua talking
about the chemistry between he and Malik Washington.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah, I would say his maturity in the offense, not
just his maturity understanding where he to be in the
timing of the offense.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I don't think that's talked about.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Enough for someone like Malik, very smart, very intuitive, just
knows where to be in the right spots. And I
would say it's it's very unique because last year it
kind of blows my mind that he was a rookie
like with with how he comprehends the scheme and how
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he's able to go about what we're asking of him offensively.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Go ahead and pick it right back up here with
Tuwa talking about the same exact question here with the
s Gridge.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
It's been really good.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I think the entire team has seen his development over
the years. And yeah, you know, i'd like to say
he's he's really been showing out.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He's really been showing out. So I'm very proud of him, very.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Happy for him. You know, we have this saying in
there anybody can do it once, so we're always looking
to stay as consistent as possible with our jobs and
what we do. And you know, I know he's excited
to get back out there and show you guys.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
What else he could do.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
A couple more soundbites here, one from two to one
from Mike McDaniel. Wanted to run this SoundBite because we've
seen games and joint practices and a lot of the
work here without Tyreek Hill, a lot of that without
Gileen Wattle as well. So let's ask two about what
those guys' absences can do to help the rest of
the room and the offense as a whole when they
do return to the offense come the regular season.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yeah, it, I would say, with Tyreek not being or yeah,
Tyreek being out, it does give us an opportunity to
work on, you know, more things with Wado, work on
more things with Malik. It also allows me the opportunity
to see which guys I can trust, which guys I
can depend on. When when guys like Tyreek or even
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you know, sometimes throughout the practice, you know, Jalen is
sat down by the trainers or or whatnot, it allows
me the opportunity to see who's in their playbook, who
knows where to be in what spots, and then play
within the timing of that play So that that that's
a cool opportunity for those guys. With Tyreek not being
in there. But you know, like like anything else, that
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takes practice, practice, practice, and we just got to continue
to work on being on the same page.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
We'll go ahead and go to Mike McDaniel, who has
asked the same question about the value of the absence
for guys to have more opportunities of Tyreek Hill and
of Jalen want Well.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I think there's a couple of things uh at Bay
that have been productive.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
You know, Tyreek just inherently brings energy and confidence to
your group. And then you know Tyreek as he's been
this entire offseason and how he has continued to be.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think you you probably saw.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Him on the field after every receiver made a play
last practice.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
That's a.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That's a good thing for the offense to have to
work through not having uh you know, that energy and
that that that extra bit of confidence that he naturally brings,
and that's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
To work through.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Particularly you go through three different teams of joint practices,
this being the third, and and go on a Midwest
trip you uh, you know, the the overall group had
to fight some battles and and in competitive situations, and
they had to be their own voice and I think
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that when you when you see that, then you see
Tyreek investing in his teammates in a way that I
that's above and beyond anything I've seen from him since
he's been here, uh you know, kind of you know.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
In in a unique way.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I think him being out has enabled his teammates to
see how invested he is in them. So all good
things to work through. And I think overall there's a
residual gain from that down the road. But that's assuming
that we continue a progression, you know, when he's not
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in there, so that when he is, he's jumping in
a huddle of a leveled up offense.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
As for the performance on the day itself from Tua Man,
that were some freaking dots and like I said, if
he hits those two long balls, we're talking about what
would translate to like a four hundred yard passing day
on a Sunday. He was cooking early in the red zone.
Really cool concept where they ran Jalen on this like
slant with a crosser over the top from a Leake
Washington and Jalen ran like a pivot back to the outside,
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which to me put too many bodies in the area,
which makes me think he kind of went off script
a little bit on his own in the wrong way.
But Tua puts an absolute perfect ball on the back
pylon to the Leake Washington for a touchdown. You can
find the video on the Dolphins social channel for fifteen yards.
Then Waddle does the wattle stuff, widens the corner across
his face, the balls on an absolute frozen rope from
between the on the seven, and some ding dong on
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Twitter made fun of me for calling it a fastball.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Like dul he does was throw lobs duh.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
But I'd love to see anyone who has that take
go catch one pass from Tuoa because you are so
out of touch with reality if you think every NFL
quarterback can't reach back and throw a fastball, just an
absolute rip between the one and the seven for a touchdown.
He had a similar throw on an inbreak to d
s Gridge and the end of game drill at the
end of practice where they ruled him down but after
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seventeen yards.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But like the guy that got the tackle was on
his back.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So I would love to see that play go out
live because to me, I think it was a walk
off touchdown.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But I digress.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Tua had a bunch of plays where it's play action
back to the defense, one hitch foot in the ground,
ball right out of the hands, on the on the
receiver out of the break. I sat with Oj McDuffie
today and he was talking about how tough that is
to throw that football. And there were some cool plays
that looked like or rather some plays that looked like
miscommunications that didn't work out, or maybe not miscommunications, but
just the nature of playing the way Tua does.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know JT. O.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Sullivan always talks about this on his channel when he
does the broad or to a tongue by Lowa evaluations,
And I've seen Kurt Wanner talk about this from his
own playing perspective, how the narrow misses for a quarterback
that plays with that much rhythm and anticipation can look
like big misses because the delicate nature of a timing offense.
If you're off by one step, it can lead to
some balls a really wide or behind. Now, there were
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some procedurals the Jags completely blew up two end of rounds.
On one of them, Josh heinz Allen was actually there
to intercept the little blind flip from Tua which I
think would be considered a fumble since he flipped it backwards,
but he dropped it and wound up landing on it anyway.
But a lot of good stuff, some stuff to iron
out for the offense. Let's go ahead and finish up
here with Tua on what he'd want to see on Saturday.
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As we learned that he and the ones we'll see
at least a little bit of time. Here's Tua on
the last preseason game here against the Jaguars.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Well, I want to work on timing with these guys.
I want to see the procedural aspect of it. How
we do with the pre snap deal's motion, motion landmarks,
lining up in the right spots, going out, playing fast,
everyone knowing where to be, knowing where to go.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's what I want to see for these guys.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Go ahead and get into our first break right there,
come back and talk about the other quarterbacks, the rest
of the offense.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We to defense in segment three.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
All of that ahead Draft Time podcast brought to you
by Auto Nation. So I kind of assumed this would
happen at some point, and it makes me wonder what
the playtime Saturday looks like for the other quarterbacks, but
it was mostly Tua and Zach getting reps today. Quinn
did get some work, but not a ton, which is
another sign to me that we're starting to see that
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pivot towards regular season work. The starter gets most of
the reps, the backup gets some of them, and the
third quarterback is pretty much just running the scout team.
I also saw today to canning plays, which is when
you see the quarterback in the entire offense point to
their helmet, check check, you know, can that play and
get to the second play in that first period when
they were red hot and he wasn't doing it later
on in practice. They didn't do it day one in Detroit,
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they did do it day two. And it does sound
awfully convenient for the production of those practices. And I
won't say for certain that that's the part of, you know,
running a play into a bad look on purpose versus
checking out of it and getting into the play that
you want, but I think it's worth noting, and we'll
find out when the season gets here if that's the
what we saw in these training camp practices during these
rolls offensively with Zach zach Man late, it's just freaking late. Man,
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and it's it's been that way all along, and he
was sacked a bunch. He continues to really struggle moving
to his left when he throws on the move, which
those the accuracy and the touch and the where the
ball goes seems like a mystery. It's kind of strange.
But the number two offense just looked absolutely brutal today.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
It was bad.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think that's probably where some of the negative tweets
came from, like a Pete Prisco saying like it was, oh,
these teams want to get out of camp. Like the
number two offense didn't do anything today. I have a
harder time giving him the benefit of the doubt. I
give two of because we'll watch their regular season tape.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's night and day.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But man, I think it's it's better than the last
two years the backup quarterback position, but it would have
been harder to get, would have been pretty hard to
get worse, right, much worse. But I do think losing
Tua could just possibly derail things. And if that happens,
I think that opens up a lot of questions that
you might have because how many times has this happened?
And now you invested a pretty good contract into a
guy and if it does go down that way, like
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you got to answer to that, and I'm concerned about it.
Zach's biggest player of the day was a hell mary
completion to Andrew Armstrong where he just kind of threw
up in the air and Armstrong made a hell of
a play. But other than that, quite a bit of
womp womps from the number two offense. As far as
receivers go, Waddle looks sharp when he's in there. We
covered Malik and d Nwi with sharp in the one
on ones, but couldn't quite get on the same page
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with two and the team drills. But Taj Washington continues
to be a guy that you know. Kyle Krasts makes
fun of me for being a falling into the honeypot
of speed receivers.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I kind of like him the most, man like.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
He feels like the wild card in that room in
terms of having speed and being a playmaker that can
help give you the other speed element outside of Tyreek
and Waddle. But I just see a damn football player here.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
He made a plan on one on ones that was
just like something I saw in Chicago and the practice
and the game where the corner is outside leveraging him
and he could easily run across the field and take
a wide open route in the one on ones, but
he commits to the out the route breaking to the outside.
Tua tries it and Taj stacks the defensive back on
a corner and he keeps his ground and is able
to kind of block out the space over the top.
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Then he elevates and goes and makes a play on
a contested catch. Like, if you're in the nosebleeds and
you're watching this guy play, I feel like you'd have
no idea. He's five foot ten, one hundred and seventy
four pounds, basically me if I ate ice cream every.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Day this week.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That's all he is. Like, He's not a big guy
at all, but he plays a lot bigger than that.
He made a nice catching teamwork and then he had
a really good release on punt team where he beat
the two jams and caused a fair catch on punt coverage.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I think he has a bunch of juice.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I was excited about the Faro Brown signing, but he's
had a rough camp, Like he had a catch in
a fumble that it just looked like whoa put it away.
Man had a nice bounce back rep on the very
next play where he drove the end ten yards down
the field, and I think that he is kind of
like your backup. Why at this point if he's you know,
if he makes the fifty three. But the lack of
suddenness all so jumps out to me when I watch
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him out here. The running backs Jalen Wright left and
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
We're gonna see, we'll get more information.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I don't like to speculate on what I think it was,
but he went to the medical facility and that she's
not a great sign, so we'll find out more about him.
He was running good before he left. Ollie Gordon, I
think continues to look like the second best back on
the team. Throughout the course of August. He caught the
ball smoothly, he inflicted some punishment, He had some chunk runs.
Then he finished two soundbites heer from Alie. I asked
him how he feels about his pass pro because if
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he gets that down, I feel like he is your
answer for a lot of the stuff the team. This
team has struggled with offensively for the last couple of years.
Short yardage, situational third down stuffrom the running back. If
he can run the way he does, if he can
catch the football the way he has, and he compare
that with good pass pro, which I think he does have.
We just don't have a lot of tape on that
from him so far. Then I think he's going to
be a big solution for the offense. Let's go ahead
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and hear from Ali about his pass pro work so far.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I see I'm getting better as we go on.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I feel like each.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Week I tend to focus on that more. You know,
I feel like that's one of my game. One of
my spots tell me you to focus on to get better.
So I would say that I.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Laugh at all these sound bites because his his energy
is just infectious. Now.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
He's a fun guy to be around.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
We had this comment from Aaron Brewer about the physical
running style of Ollie Gordon.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Physical is that what we just said?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Like, you're gonna feel him every time he run, and
you can visually see it every time he putting it
so and down. He gonna make every dB lineback whoever
that's trying to tack him, they gonna fit it every
down every time he touched the ball and.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I love it and all I was asked about that
comment from Aaron Brewer.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
You know, it's really when I get the ball, I
see think it's me or them, honestly, you know. And
I'd rather not get put on the highlight tape and
you know, make my line and blocks pay for it.
So you know, I'd rather just run behind them. You know,
they're gonna get a hat on the hat and he's
getting down here. You know, I feel like that's more
of my style than sideways. You know, I always get
to go north to south.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Your boy likes the mirror them comment on the offensive line,
Pat Paul doing his thing and the one on ones,
but I felt the Jags did a pretty good job
up and down in the one on one portion of
practice on both sides. I felt like our defensive line
dominated in teamwork, which is all that really matters. But
the Jags held up there in their defensive front and
against our against our pass rush in the one on ones.
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There were some wins where it was guys I think,
taking advantage of the space that you're afforded in the
one on ones, but there was also some protection breakdowns
and teamwork, especially from that second group on the offensive line.
And I gotta say this, guys like watching that practice
today and some of the preseason tape, I think he'll
get there. But I'm a little bit worried about Jonas
of I and I out of the gate only because
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there's one thing on his tape and then I see
at practice today that continues to pop up where he's extending,
you know, getting out over his his feet and over
his knees and over his hips, and then the feet
stop and the ability to get back on balance and
redirect and move the feet for a pass rush crossing face.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It's been getting the best of him.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He's got to work on that because he kind of
got the best. Guys got the best of him in
the one on one portions today. I thought it was
a tough day for Larry Boram, who's had a good
second half of camp here so far. Same with Keon Smith,
who has been one of the more surprising performances in
terms of going the wrong way based upon what I
thought from him last year before the injury. I'm not
quite sure what happened there. Just the entire second team
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offense was out of sorts. Like Daniel brunskill. I thought struggled.
It was just bad up and down. Let's go ahead
and take our last break right there, come back and
finish up with the best part of the entire day,
the defense. That's next Draft Time podcast, brought to you
by Auto Nation. What does the pass to a championship
look like for the Miami Dolphins. Go ahead and laugh
it up all you want, but that's what you have
(24:29):
to think about when you're in this league. You're trying
to win championships, and if they put it all together,
to me, it would be the return of the twenty
twenty three offense with run game and balance and the
explosive plays in the offense coming back, and then defensively,
the pressure up front paired with more playmakers in the
back end that you've had previously. So score a lot
of points and take it away. That's a good recipe.
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A lot of teams have ridden that formula to championships
in the past, and it's you might not be the
best defense in the league, but if you can stop
the run and then create k when the team has
to drop back to pass, when the opponent has to
go back to pass, I feel like that's how this
team can make their impact and not just surprise people
will make the playoffs, which to me wouldn't be a surprise,
but go into January and win football games. And I
kind of assumed that, you know, that was kind of
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the making of this defense, and on today's practice we
saw a lot of that. I think, you know, that's
the best version of this team, right being opportunistic, and
that's why you go out and you get a Minka
Fitzpatrick who has a lot of ball production and scores
the ball after he takes it away. Or Jack Jones,
you know, four scores and seven years ago, now four
scores in three years as a you know, off seven picks.
(25:35):
It's pretty impressive. Both those guys had pick sixes today.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
They picked off.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Trevor Lawrence took it back for six, and I saw
somebody tweet there wasn't very many big plays. I think
pick six is are pretty big plays. You score on defense,
you probably win that football game most of the time,
like that's usually how it goes in this league, unless
it's just a complete blowout the other direction. But both
plays were throws over the middle, guys dropping into zones
coverage and reading the eyes of the quarterback, cutting off
the receiver right in front, making a big play going
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back the other way, and Jack Jones was getting in guys' faces.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
He was challenging them.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It was kind of the opposite to the Detroit practice
where he was challenging guys and getting beat and getting
made fun of by the Lion staff. I think he
was getting the Jags rough up today because of how
he played with physical and aggression in good football. Lawrence
and the Jags offense was basically Brian Thomas junior and
nothing else. They couldn't run the ball, They couldn't complete
the ball if they weren't going to him. He had
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a touchdown on Storm Duck in the red zone. Work
had another long catch on Jack. He made some plays.
He's a really good player, but that was about it.
The ball was on the ground all day on the
Jags field. Offensively, the run game could not get surged.
They had a couple of like four or five yard
runs up the middle, but we had constant pressure on
Trevor Lawrence. It was the most dominant practice I've seen
from the Dolphins defense, I think all training camp long now.
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Jones and Minka were just awesome. I think those are
your kind of calling cards in the back end of
this defense. I thought Isaiah Johnson had a really nice
day as well. On the on the second team defense,
Jason Marshall Junior had a pass breakup covering Brian Thomas,
So it wasn't all BTJ, some some JMJ as well,
and I just continue to see some good stuff from him.
I am so excited to watch him play on Saturday
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where I can just watch him live from my perch
in the press box. Can't wait to go back and
watch a Dolphins game live. Man, it's been a long time.
Last game was the Niners game. Holy moly. I was
like Christmas, wasn't it? My goodness, We're gonna go ahead
and watch him. He's on my top five players of
guys to watch in this game. We heard from him
after practice here he is talking about the transition to
the slot and why he thinks that position suits his skill.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Set honestly, just you know, I'm able to move around
more freely, getting you know, tackling. That was a big
question in my game coming into you know, the NFL,
things like that. And then just like I said, just
being more physical. I could be more physical in that position,
especially with my sauce.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And Minka Fitzpatrick makes a bunch of plays for this team.
He was all over the field.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
He had a big tackle for loss, he had a
pass breakup, he had the pick six, and he talked
about Jason Marshall and his last press conference for the
impressive work he did in the slot in that game
up in Detroit. And I just keep seeing Minka like
being a guy that players go to and talk to,
and he has that leadership quality about him.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
He really knows this game.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I mean, Nick Saban's son, right the whole conversation back
at Alabama. And you might have your feelings about him
from the Flora stuff, and I certainly did, but I've
definitely come around on that because of what I've seen
from this guy. And here's a big reason for that.
Talk to Jason Marshall about the impact of Minka Fitzpatrick
helping him in that slot position.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Definitely, I look at him as a mentor. You know,
he a season veteran, he played that position also the safety,
So just getting tips from him, you know, on what
to do, how to show a different coverage or something
like that, is to help my game.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So Zach Steeler was dominant. They couldn't block him.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
He stacked up runs, got surge on one plate and
rejected a pass back in the face of Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
In the end of game period.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
The Dolphins closed that drill with a combined sack from
Bradley Chubb and Jordan Brooks, converging on Trevor Lawrence for
that sack, and that came after three straight incompletions. The
third one was negated because we jumped off side, but
that bubble was also bad down by Bradley Chubb. But
it was four dominant reps from the defense. They couldn't
move the football all day long. They couldn't really block
Jordan Brooks, but who can. Willie Gay was all over
the field, all over the quarterback. I saw a play
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where Jordan Phillips took Patrick McCary two yards behind the
line of scrimmage and then t Dot cleaned up the play.
Quinton Bell had a tackle for loss followed by a
sack and teamwork. Jalen Phillips had a sack and teamwork.
Ta Kwan Jackson blocked a punt. That's to this camp
that I've seen Cam goodback in Chicago. I don't think
I had seen that ever previously, and I've seen it
twice here in practic. Maybe not paying a close enough
(29:31):
attention to punt team if he Melafalma had a really
good practice. He had a big hit fit in the
run from depth where he came downhill and threded up
the running back Ethan Robinson had a pass breakup on
the goal line down in the red zone. You guys
should see that on our social media account today. I
think that's about it. That's training camp.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Man. It feels good to be over. I gotta be
honest with you guys.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's a lot of work and I'm glad to be
done with that and pivot off to the next thing here,
which is pre regular season content. We'll have plenty of
that for you guys. This week's schedule. No podcast tomorrow.
Saturday game recap will be early morning hours on Sunday
for you guys. I'll have the film review podcast up
on a similar timeline, probably Monday morning. We'll see about that.
(30:09):
Then we'll have some cutdown day coverage. Chris Greer and
Mike mcdalil are gonna talk to us, I think next
Wednesday or something like that. We'll have coverage on that.
I'll do a mailbag podcast. I'm gonna do a Camp
takeaways podcast. We'll have the annual Season Predictions podcast talking
about every team.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Around the league.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
And camp is over and the season is a couple
weeks away, but the content does not slow down until January,
maybe February, but I guess the bye week as well.
But until then, until Sunday Jags Recap. That's gonna be
my time. You all, please be sure subscribe, rate, review
the show, Follow me on social at Winkfold NFL. Follow
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next time, Finn's Up. Caroline Cameron Willow Daddys Coming Home.
This is Drivetowntown, the Trap Swing Weave he Go feature
feature feature on the intro.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfold. On today's show, Camp
is a rap.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We made it. We made it here.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The Jags were in town today. Dolphins got after Trevor Lawrence.
The offense started hot, Jags Edges made some big plays,
but Miami bounces back late.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We'll do all of the notes.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We'll hear from Tua, from McDaniel, from Aaron Brewer, from
Ollie Gordon, from Jason Marshall Jr. From the Baptist Hill
Studios inside the Baptist Hell Training Complex.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
This is the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Today. We made it. Just like that, training camp has concluded.
I would say the Dolphins improved their joint practice record
to two and two. Will that be enough to get
into the postseason. We're gonna have to find out the
results from Seattle and Green Bay later on today.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm just kidding. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
But it was a dominant day for the defense and
a day of back and forth on the offensive side
that began with a bunch of chunk touchdowns from the
high red zone and sprinkled in some explosives in between.
Jags play blow ups, play deconstructions. I would say we're
gonna go ahead and jump right in here and start
with I guess the ominous news, if you want to
(01:20):
call it that. Jalen Wright and aj Henning both exited
practice and went straight into the medical facility after their injuries,
and Jordan Brooks got nicked up late. I'm quite certain
that Jordan is fine. But like Diane Mayan, like what
is going on out here? Reek a Chan Austin, Jalen Wright,
Alex Madison, Darren Waller, Julian Hill's been off to the side,
(01:42):
cater Coo who out for the year, The three offensive
Linemen where the Simpsons meme where Abe almost at Abe Lincoln,
where Abe Simpson walks into the restaurant, puts his hat
on the hook, does a little lap, comes right back
out and exits the door once again. All three of
those guys were here for less than a week before
they got hurt. Andrew my leam Mikenberg already burns. Jason
Matrie back in the spring, like Diariel, Myron is getting
(02:04):
crazy out there. I did want to start with this
because to me. It felt instructive and I hope it's
a good news thing here for Devon a Chan And
I saw Austin Jackson moving around today pretty good as well.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But I want to start here because McDaniel talked.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
About a Chan and it's not that unlike Jalen Waddle
a couple of years ago when he missed like most
of training camp and we didn't know what you were
going to get in week one from him, and then
the first drive of the Chargers game he has that
thirty five yard catching around.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's like, oh, he's he's fine.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And that part kind of reminds me of a CHAN
where coach talked about Waddald that year having a great
spring and start of camp which afforded him the ability
to miss some time without being too impacted by those
lack of reps. Here's coach on Devon ah Chan and
this should be enough to get you excited about the
third year running backs prospects here heading into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The you know, unintended consequence or the opportunity in the
adversity of any of the players specifically, you know, uh,
a guy like Devon where he's out so other people
get ops. So there's you know, one thing that people
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don't really know about Devon is he has a complete
ownership of the playbook, absolute ownership. And what is important
about that, well, uh, all on all the plays that
you don't get the ball, are you contributing to the
success of the play So it's you know, force the
(03:37):
group to uh, you know, hold that down. And there's
a lot of peer pressure within the team to execute
your job. So we're finding out how much guys will
be able to be used by how they It's not
not like, hey, that was a big run. We were
talking every day about Hey, identifying something to fix in
(04:01):
your game and then watching people adjust or not adjust,
and that's how you earn your opportunities. That I think
what you're looking for. I think that the rooms looking
for and they're trying to earn right now in front
of their teammates so that you know, ultimately, dispersion of
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the football is the most powerful weapon you can you
can do against any defense. So whether that's using or
changing running backs and keeping them fresh, or or distributing
among all thought other four eligibles on each offensive play.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
That that's what we're looking for.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
We want a team not to know how we're going
to attack them and utilize their weaknesses to our strengths.
And so today's an important practice for everybody, including the
running backs.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And I just I think that would be a big
deal if Devon can kind of be even more in
tuned what the offense wants to accomplish from you know,
pass protection, from routes, inside adjustments, and you know, reading
the angles of his blocks and trusting the scheme to
develop things in a certain way. And if he goes
another step in that direction with a healthy season, like
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he's one of the most explosive players in the National
Football League. As for the day of production, I thought
the day was a lot like camp. Offensively, good start,
lack of production in the middle, good finished. Abram Brewer
talked about that after practice.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I feel like we started off as zech hew we
needed to. We had like a little bumps to we
have practice, but I feel like we got back on
trad close to the end.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And then I wanted to ask Toua because we got
him for probably the last time before coltsweak here this
week today, I should say, and I wanted to ask
him about the concept of camp where actually real quick
let's back up on that, because someone asked him what
I felt like was a better lead into that question
in the first answer here. So here's Tua on the
difference between training camp this year and his previous five
(06:03):
seasons in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
It's really the process versus the result, I would say
in the previous ones is more so trying to find
the big plays, trying to get a result out of that,
if you will, versus going through the process. I think
as you go through the process, you're a little more
present than trying to think that this is going to
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be open and then try to make it open in
your mind. So just going through the process, seeing the defense,
throwing what's there, then moving on from it, and if
it comes back and they take it away, then you
continue to go through that process.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
But I think it keeps me present.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And then his answer to my question about the concept
of camp being about the training right, not about the
result and progressing to get yourself ready for the season,
how would you assess the twenty practices that they've had
you've had so far? In that answer coming immediately at
the conclusion of practice number twenty itself, here's quarterback one
talking about.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
That I think it made us as a team, you know,
a lot better focused on the right things, not focused
on the results of the play, but focused on their fundamentals,
their techniques, what they had done in individual and how
they transitioned that to team periods and.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
What that looked like.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
And if they transitioned that and it didn't work out, well,
then you can look at, Okay, what else are we doing?
What else are we not doing coaching wise and player
wise to get us in that position to where we
need to be offense and defensively. So I would say
it's a continued grind. It's not something that, Okay, we
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go through the process and this is where the process ends.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
It's an everyday thing.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And to a start of this day, red hot and
it began with the very first throw, an absolute dot
in one on ones to des Gridge had a half
step on the defense. I wanted to ask two with this,
but I couldn't quite get it in. And it kind
of harkens back to like the Ryan Tannehill days where
he could hit guys on these deep shots. But Mike
Wallace was never really one to get in sync with Tannehill.
And you know, I never thought Tannehill's strength was his
(08:04):
ability to throw with touch. You could see that on
like little screens and you know, slow developing routes of
the perimeter. But with Tua, that's one of the best
aspects of his game, right, the way he can layer
and put touch on the football. But I was curious
about how his adjustment goes between throwing deep shots to
Reek and Waddle, you know noted sub four three forty guys,
and then getting deep looks to the rest of the
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receivers who are a tenth or maybe two tenths of
a second slower than that. It's a different football, right,
and I think it's great work for exactly what we
saw today. The biggest play opportunities in the passing game
today were missed one on one shots to the boundary,
which is the short side of the field where you
put your you know, your X receiver and your X
eraser on defense over to that side and you roll
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your safety help to the other side of.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
The field, the wide side.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And in this offense, if a team does that, you know,
you probably get a lot of opportunities to go vertical.
If it's Molik, if it's d if it's you know,
Nick Westbrook, A Kine who has a little bit more
of an X receiver profile than those other guys, or
maybe Taj Washington, who runs closer to what reakan wattall
do more on him than just one second. So we've
we got the one on one deep shot to d
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and that was a completion, but he also just missed
Tua did in a team period one that I think
would have changed the perception of practice. Two of those
rather from the Dolphins like, oh, they won this practice,
to oh they dominated today against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Both
those passes were off the fingertips of D S Gridge,
em A Leak Washington, who again are four to five
guys right, probably more like two and a half two
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and a half tenths of a second slower than Recan Waddle,
which is a step or two right.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But Tua talked after practice about those guys and Tyreek
and Waddle being in and out of practice, with Wattle
having some days off here and there. Wattle was in
for some of the work but not his usual full workload.
So we'll go ahead and start here with Tua talking
about the chemistry between he and Malik Washington.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah, I would say his maturity in the offense, not
just his maturity understanding where he to be in the
timing of the offense.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I don't think that's talked about.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Enough for someone like Malik, very smart, very intuitive, just
knows where to be in the right spots. And I
would say it's it's very unique because last year it
kind of blows my mind that he was a rookie
like with with how he comprehends the scheme and how
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he's able to go about what we're asking of him offensively.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Go ahead and pick it right back up here with
Tuwa talking about the same exact question here with the
s Gridge.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
It's been really good.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I think the entire team has seen his development over
the years. And yeah, you know, i'd like to say
he's he's really been showing out.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He's really been showing out. So I'm very proud of him, very.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Happy for him. You know, we have this saying in
there anybody can do it once, so we're always looking
to stay as consistent as possible with our jobs and
what we do. And you know, I know he's excited
to get back out there and show you guys.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
What else he could do.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
A couple more soundbites here, one from two to one
from Mike McDaniel. Wanted to run this SoundBite because we've
seen games and joint practices and a lot of the
work here without Tyreek Hill, a lot of that without
Gileen Wattle as well. So let's ask two about what
those guys' absences can do to help the rest of
the room and the offense as a whole when they
do return to the offense come the regular season.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yeah, it, I would say, with Tyreek not being or yeah,
Tyreek being out, it does give us an opportunity to
work on, you know, more things with Wado, work on
more things with Malik. It also allows me the opportunity
to see which guys I can trust, which guys I
can depend on. When when guys like Tyreek or even
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you know, sometimes throughout the practice, you know, Jalen is
sat down by the trainers or or whatnot, it allows
me the opportunity to see who's in their playbook, who
knows where to be in what spots, and then play
within the timing of that play So that that that's
a cool opportunity for those guys. With Tyreek not being
in there. But you know, like like anything else, that
(12:09):
takes practice, practice, practice, and we just got to continue
to work on being on the same page.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
We'll go ahead and go to Mike McDaniel, who has
asked the same question about the value of the absence
for guys to have more opportunities of Tyreek Hill and
of Jalen want Well.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I think there's a couple of things uh at Bay
that have been productive.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
You know, Tyreek just inherently brings energy and confidence to
your group. And then you know Tyreek as he's been
this entire offseason and how he has continued to be.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think you you probably saw.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Him on the field after every receiver made a play
last practice.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
That's a.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That's a good thing for the offense to have to
work through not having uh you know, that energy and
that that that extra bit of confidence that he naturally brings,
and that's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
To work through.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Particularly you go through three different teams of joint practices,
this being the third, and and go on a Midwest
trip you uh, you know, the the overall group had
to fight some battles and and in competitive situations, and
they had to be their own voice and I think
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that when you when you see that, then you see
Tyreek investing in his teammates in a way that I
that's above and beyond anything I've seen from him since
he's been here, uh you know, kind of you know.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
In in a unique way.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I think him being out has enabled his teammates to
see how invested he is in them. So all good
things to work through. And I think overall there's a
residual gain from that down the road. But that's assuming
that we continue a progression, you know, when he's not
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in there, so that when he is, he's jumping in
a huddle of a leveled up offense.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
As for the performance on the day itself from Tua Man,
that were some freaking dots and like I said, if
he hits those two long balls, we're talking about what
would translate to like a four hundred yard passing day
on a Sunday. He was cooking early in the red zone.
Really cool concept where they ran Jalen on this like
slant with a crosser over the top from a Leake
Washington and Jalen ran like a pivot back to the outside,
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which to me put too many bodies in the area,
which makes me think he kind of went off script
a little bit on his own in the wrong way.
But Tua puts an absolute perfect ball on the back
pylon to the Leake Washington for a touchdown. You can
find the video on the Dolphins social channel for fifteen yards.
Then Waddle does the wattle stuff, widens the corner across
his face, the balls on an absolute frozen rope from
between the on the seven, and some ding dong on
(15:02):
Twitter made fun of me for calling it a fastball.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Like dul he does was throw lobs duh.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
But I'd love to see anyone who has that take
go catch one pass from Tuoa because you are so
out of touch with reality if you think every NFL
quarterback can't reach back and throw a fastball, just an
absolute rip between the one and the seven for a touchdown.
He had a similar throw on an inbreak to d
s Gridge and the end of game drill at the
end of practice where they ruled him down but after
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seventeen yards.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But like the guy that got the tackle was on
his back.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So I would love to see that play go out
live because to me, I think it was a walk
off touchdown.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But I digress.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Tua had a bunch of plays where it's play action
back to the defense, one hitch foot in the ground,
ball right out of the hands, on the on the
receiver out of the break. I sat with Oj McDuffie
today and he was talking about how tough that is
to throw that football. And there were some cool plays
that looked like or rather some plays that looked like
miscommunications that didn't work out, or maybe not miscommunications, but
just the nature of playing the way Tua does.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know JT. O.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Sullivan always talks about this on his channel when he
does the broad or to a tongue by Lowa evaluations,
And I've seen Kurt Wanner talk about this from his
own playing perspective, how the narrow misses for a quarterback
that plays with that much rhythm and anticipation can look
like big misses because the delicate nature of a timing offense.
If you're off by one step, it can lead to
some balls a really wide or behind. Now, there were
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some procedurals the Jags completely blew up two end of rounds.
On one of them, Josh heinz Allen was actually there
to intercept the little blind flip from Tua which I
think would be considered a fumble since he flipped it backwards,
but he dropped it and wound up landing on it anyway.
But a lot of good stuff, some stuff to iron
out for the offense. Let's go ahead and finish up
here with Tua on what he'd want to see on Saturday.
(16:41):
As we learned that he and the ones we'll see
at least a little bit of time. Here's Tua on
the last preseason game here against the Jaguars.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Well, I want to work on timing with these guys.
I want to see the procedural aspect of it. How
we do with the pre snap deal's motion, motion landmarks,
lining up in the right spots, going out, playing fast,
everyone knowing where to be, knowing where to go.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's what I want to see for these guys.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Go ahead and get into our first break right there,
come back and talk about the other quarterbacks, the rest
of the offense.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We to defense in segment three.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
All of that ahead Draft Time podcast brought to you
by Auto Nation. So I kind of assumed this would
happen at some point, and it makes me wonder what
the playtime Saturday looks like for the other quarterbacks, but
it was mostly Tua and Zach getting reps today. Quinn
did get some work, but not a ton, which is
another sign to me that we're starting to see that
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pivot towards regular season work. The starter gets most of
the reps, the backup gets some of them, and the
third quarterback is pretty much just running the scout team.
I also saw today to canning plays, which is when
you see the quarterback in the entire offense point to
their helmet, check check, you know, can that play and
get to the second play in that first period when
they were red hot and he wasn't doing it later
on in practice. They didn't do it day one in Detroit,
(17:53):
they did do it day two. And it does sound
awfully convenient for the production of those practices. And I
won't say for certain that that's the part of, you know,
running a play into a bad look on purpose versus
checking out of it and getting into the play that
you want, but I think it's worth noting, and we'll
find out when the season gets here if that's the
what we saw in these training camp practices during these
rolls offensively with Zach zach Man late, it's just freaking late. Man,
(18:20):
and it's it's been that way all along, and he
was sacked a bunch. He continues to really struggle moving
to his left when he throws on the move, which
those the accuracy and the touch and the where the
ball goes seems like a mystery. It's kind of strange.
But the number two offense just looked absolutely brutal today.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
It was bad.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think that's probably where some of the negative tweets
came from, like a Pete Prisco saying like it was, oh,
these teams want to get out of camp. Like the
number two offense didn't do anything today. I have a
harder time giving him the benefit of the doubt. I
give two of because we'll watch their regular season tape.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's night and day.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But man, I think it's it's better than the last
two years the backup quarterback position, but it would have
been harder to get, would have been pretty hard to
get worse, right, much worse. But I do think losing
Tua could just possibly derail things. And if that happens,
I think that opens up a lot of questions that
you might have because how many times has this happened?
And now you invested a pretty good contract into a
guy and if it does go down that way, like
(19:12):
you got to answer to that, and I'm concerned about it.
Zach's biggest player of the day was a hell mary
completion to Andrew Armstrong where he just kind of threw
up in the air and Armstrong made a hell of
a play. But other than that, quite a bit of
womp womps from the number two offense. As far as
receivers go, Waddle looks sharp when he's in there. We
covered Malik and d Nwi with sharp in the one
on ones, but couldn't quite get on the same page
(19:33):
with two and the team drills. But Taj Washington continues
to be a guy that you know. Kyle Krasts makes
fun of me for being a falling into the honeypot
of speed receivers.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I kind of like him the most, man like.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
He feels like the wild card in that room in
terms of having speed and being a playmaker that can
help give you the other speed element outside of Tyreek
and Waddle. But I just see a damn football player here.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
He made a plan on one on ones that was
just like something I saw in Chicago and the practice
and the game where the corner is outside leveraging him
and he could easily run across the field and take
a wide open route in the one on ones, but
he commits to the out the route breaking to the outside.
Tua tries it and Taj stacks the defensive back on
a corner and he keeps his ground and is able
to kind of block out the space over the top.
(20:16):
Then he elevates and goes and makes a play on
a contested catch. Like, if you're in the nosebleeds and
you're watching this guy play, I feel like you'd have
no idea. He's five foot ten, one hundred and seventy
four pounds, basically me if I ate ice cream every.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Day this week.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That's all he is. Like, He's not a big guy
at all, but he plays a lot bigger than that.
He made a nice catching teamwork and then he had
a really good release on punt team where he beat
the two jams and caused a fair catch on punt coverage.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I think he has a bunch of juice.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I was excited about the Faro Brown signing, but he's
had a rough camp, Like he had a catch in
a fumble that it just looked like whoa put it away.
Man had a nice bounce back rep on the very
next play where he drove the end ten yards down
the field, and I think that he is kind of
like your backup. Why at this point if he's you know,
if he makes the fifty three. But the lack of
suddenness all so jumps out to me when I watch
(21:02):
him out here. The running backs Jalen Wright left and
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
We're gonna see, we'll get more information.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I don't like to speculate on what I think it was,
but he went to the medical facility and that she's
not a great sign, so we'll find out more about him.
He was running good before he left. Ollie Gordon, I
think continues to look like the second best back on
the team. Throughout the course of August. He caught the
ball smoothly, he inflicted some punishment, He had some chunk runs.
Then he finished two soundbites heer from Alie. I asked
him how he feels about his pass pro because if
(21:30):
he gets that down, I feel like he is your
answer for a lot of the stuff the team. This
team has struggled with offensively for the last couple of years.
Short yardage, situational third down stuffrom the running back. If
he can run the way he does, if he can
catch the football the way he has, and he compare
that with good pass pro, which I think he does have.
We just don't have a lot of tape on that
from him so far. Then I think he's going to
be a big solution for the offense. Let's go ahead
(21:50):
and hear from Ali about his pass pro work so far.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I see I'm getting better as we go on.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I feel like each.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Week I tend to focus on that more. You know,
I feel like that's one of my game. One of
my spots tell me you to focus on to get better.
So I would say that I.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Laugh at all these sound bites because his his energy
is just infectious. Now.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
He's a fun guy to be around.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
We had this comment from Aaron Brewer about the physical
running style of Ollie Gordon.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Physical is that what we just said?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Like, you're gonna feel him every time he run, and
you can visually see it every time he putting it
so and down. He gonna make every dB lineback whoever
that's trying to tack him, they gonna fit it every
down every time he touched the ball and.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I love it and all I was asked about that
comment from Aaron Brewer.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
You know, it's really when I get the ball, I
see think it's me or them, honestly, you know. And
I'd rather not get put on the highlight tape and
you know, make my line and blocks pay for it.
So you know, I'd rather just run behind them. You know,
they're gonna get a hat on the hat and he's
getting down here. You know, I feel like that's more
of my style than sideways. You know, I always get
to go north to south.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Your boy likes the mirror them comment on the offensive line,
Pat Paul doing his thing and the one on ones,
but I felt the Jags did a pretty good job
up and down in the one on one portion of
practice on both sides. I felt like our defensive line
dominated in teamwork, which is all that really matters. But
the Jags held up there in their defensive front and
against our against our pass rush in the one on ones.
(23:08):
There were some wins where it was guys I think,
taking advantage of the space that you're afforded in the
one on ones, but there was also some protection breakdowns
and teamwork, especially from that second group on the offensive line.
And I gotta say this, guys like watching that practice
today and some of the preseason tape, I think he'll
get there. But I'm a little bit worried about Jonas
of I and I out of the gate only because
(23:29):
there's one thing on his tape and then I see
at practice today that continues to pop up where he's extending,
you know, getting out over his his feet and over
his knees and over his hips, and then the feet
stop and the ability to get back on balance and
redirect and move the feet for a pass rush crossing face.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It's been getting the best of him.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He's got to work on that because he kind of
got the best. Guys got the best of him in
the one on one portions today. I thought it was
a tough day for Larry Boram, who's had a good
second half of camp here so far. Same with Keon Smith,
who has been one of the more surprising performances in
terms of going the wrong way based upon what I
thought from him last year before the injury. I'm not
quite sure what happened there. Just the entire second team
(24:08):
offense was out of sorts. Like Daniel brunskill. I thought struggled.
It was just bad up and down. Let's go ahead
and take our last break right there, come back and
finish up with the best part of the entire day,
the defense. That's next Draft Time podcast, brought to you
by Auto Nation. What does the pass to a championship
look like for the Miami Dolphins. Go ahead and laugh
it up all you want, but that's what you have
(24:29):
to think about when you're in this league. You're trying
to win championships, and if they put it all together,
to me, it would be the return of the twenty
twenty three offense with run game and balance and the
explosive plays in the offense coming back, and then defensively,
the pressure up front paired with more playmakers in the
back end that you've had previously. So score a lot
of points and take it away. That's a good recipe.
(24:51):
A lot of teams have ridden that formula to championships
in the past, and it's you might not be the
best defense in the league, but if you can stop
the run and then create k when the team has
to drop back to pass, when the opponent has to
go back to pass, I feel like that's how this
team can make their impact and not just surprise people
will make the playoffs, which to me wouldn't be a surprise,
but go into January and win football games. And I
kind of assumed that, you know, that was kind of
(25:14):
the making of this defense, and on today's practice we
saw a lot of that. I think, you know, that's
the best version of this team, right being opportunistic, and
that's why you go out and you get a Minka
Fitzpatrick who has a lot of ball production and scores
the ball after he takes it away. Or Jack Jones,
you know, four scores and seven years ago, now four
scores in three years as a you know, off seven picks.
(25:35):
It's pretty impressive. Both those guys had pick sixes today.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
They picked off.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Trevor Lawrence took it back for six, and I saw
somebody tweet there wasn't very many big plays. I think
pick six is are pretty big plays. You score on defense,
you probably win that football game most of the time,
like that's usually how it goes in this league, unless
it's just a complete blowout the other direction. But both
plays were throws over the middle, guys dropping into zones
coverage and reading the eyes of the quarterback, cutting off
the receiver right in front, making a big play going
(26:00):
back the other way, and Jack Jones was getting in guys' faces.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
He was challenging them.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It was kind of the opposite to the Detroit practice
where he was challenging guys and getting beat and getting
made fun of by the Lion staff. I think he
was getting the Jags rough up today because of how
he played with physical and aggression in good football. Lawrence
and the Jags offense was basically Brian Thomas junior and
nothing else. They couldn't run the ball, They couldn't complete
the ball if they weren't going to him. He had
(26:24):
a touchdown on Storm Duck in the red zone. Work
had another long catch on Jack. He made some plays.
He's a really good player, but that was about it.
The ball was on the ground all day on the
Jags field. Offensively, the run game could not get surged.
They had a couple of like four or five yard
runs up the middle, but we had constant pressure on
Trevor Lawrence. It was the most dominant practice I've seen
from the Dolphins defense, I think all training camp long now.
(26:47):
Jones and Minka were just awesome. I think those are
your kind of calling cards in the back end of
this defense. I thought Isaiah Johnson had a really nice
day as well. On the on the second team defense,
Jason Marshall Junior had a pass breakup covering Brian Thomas,
So it wasn't all BTJ, some some JMJ as well,
and I just continue to see some good stuff from him.
I am so excited to watch him play on Saturday
(27:08):
where I can just watch him live from my perch
in the press box. Can't wait to go back and
watch a Dolphins game live. Man, it's been a long time.
Last game was the Niners game. Holy moly. I was
like Christmas, wasn't it? My goodness, We're gonna go ahead
and watch him. He's on my top five players of
guys to watch in this game. We heard from him
after practice here he is talking about the transition to
the slot and why he thinks that position suits his skill.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Set honestly, just you know, I'm able to move around
more freely, getting you know, tackling. That was a big
question in my game coming into you know, the NFL,
things like that. And then just like I said, just
being more physical. I could be more physical in that position,
especially with my sauce.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And Minka Fitzpatrick makes a bunch of plays for this team.
He was all over the field.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
He had a big tackle for loss, he had a
pass breakup, he had the pick six, and he talked
about Jason Marshall and his last press conference for the
impressive work he did in the slot in that game
up in Detroit. And I just keep seeing Minka like
being a guy that players go to and talk to,
and he has that leadership quality about him.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
He really knows this game.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I mean, Nick Saban's son, right the whole conversation back
at Alabama. And you might have your feelings about him
from the Flora stuff, and I certainly did, but I've
definitely come around on that because of what I've seen
from this guy. And here's a big reason for that.
Talk to Jason Marshall about the impact of Minka Fitzpatrick
helping him in that slot position.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Definitely, I look at him as a mentor. You know,
he a season veteran, he played that position also the safety,
So just getting tips from him, you know, on what
to do, how to show a different coverage or something
like that, is to help my game.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So Zach Steeler was dominant. They couldn't block him.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
He stacked up runs, got surge on one plate and
rejected a pass back in the face of Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
In the end of game period.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
The Dolphins closed that drill with a combined sack from
Bradley Chubb and Jordan Brooks, converging on Trevor Lawrence for
that sack, and that came after three straight incompletions. The
third one was negated because we jumped off side, but
that bubble was also bad down by Bradley Chubb. But
it was four dominant reps from the defense. They couldn't
move the football all day long. They couldn't really block
Jordan Brooks, but who can. Willie Gay was all over
the field, all over the quarterback. I saw a play
(29:11):
where Jordan Phillips took Patrick McCary two yards behind the
line of scrimmage and then t Dot cleaned up the play.
Quinton Bell had a tackle for loss followed by a
sack and teamwork. Jalen Phillips had a sack and teamwork.
Ta Kwan Jackson blocked a punt. That's to this camp
that I've seen Cam goodback in Chicago. I don't think
I had seen that ever previously, and I've seen it
twice here in practic. Maybe not paying a close enough
(29:31):
attention to punt team if he Melafalma had a really
good practice. He had a big hit fit in the
run from depth where he came downhill and threded up
the running back Ethan Robinson had a pass breakup on
the goal line down in the red zone. You guys
should see that on our social media account today. I
think that's about it. That's training camp.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Man. It feels good to be over. I gotta be
honest with you guys.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's a lot of work and I'm glad to be
done with that and pivot off to the next thing here,
which is pre regular season content. We'll have plenty of
that for you guys. This week's schedule. No podcast tomorrow.
Saturday game recap will be early morning hours on Sunday
for you guys. I'll have the film review podcast up
on a similar timeline, probably Monday morning. We'll see about that.
(30:09):
Then we'll have some cutdown day coverage. Chris Greer and
Mike mcdalil are gonna talk to us, I think next
Wednesday or something like that. We'll have coverage on that.
I'll do a mailbag podcast. I'm gonna do a Camp
takeaways podcast. We'll have the annual Season Predictions podcast talking
about every team.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Around the league.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
And camp is over and the season is a couple
weeks away, but the content does not slow down until January,
maybe February, but I guess the bye week as well.
But until then, until Sunday Jags Recap. That's gonna be
my time. You all, please be sure subscribe, rate, review
the show, Follow me on social at Winkfold NFL. Follow
the team at Miami Dolphins. Check out the YouTube channel
(30:46):
for Dolphins HQ, Media availabilities, drivetime content, and so much more,
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