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October 6, 2025 • 37 mins
Travis is back in the film room to break down what happened in the Dolphins 27-24 loss to the Panthers. He looks at various personnel groupings and their success, what happened on defense, assess the quarterback position and all the individual performances.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
The intro on the show just keeps getting shorter. What's up, Dolphins,
and Welcome into the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host,
Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, we're going over the
all twenty two tape from the Dolphins loss in Carolina
from the Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
This is the Draft Time Podcast. Julio Rodriguez saved my weekend,

(00:28):
I can tell you that much. Let's go ahead and
get into this tape right now and break it down
offensively and defensively the Carolina Panthers game. Dolphins fall twenty
seven to twenty four in Charlotte. Offensive general points and
really above all, the thing that I was most curious
to check on when I sat down and watched this
film was actually more of a research project in terms

(00:49):
of the numbers of things. It was the offensive groupings
and they are as follows. Miami ran eleven personnel twenty
three times one back, one tight end. That means receivers.
We gained thirty five yards from this grouping. That's one
point five yards per play. Twelve personnel ran that nine times,
the biggest of the season and top three in the

(01:11):
McDaniel era. That's one back and two tight ends with
two receivers. We ran thirteen personnel zero times. But that's
a bit of a farce because Miami gets to their
twenty two personnel grouping and puts Alec Ingold attached as
a why on a true tight end position. Because on
that Wattle touchdown, you've got Waller and hill as double

(01:31):
wise to one side of the formation, and on the
back side of the formation, Aleck is another why on
that part of the formation. So yes, Alec is a
running back full back, but he's playing tight end on
this snap. However, it was the grouping I thought was
most successful last week. They went to it nine consecutive
plays between twenty two and twenty one personnel after the

(01:52):
Tyreek kill injury. And what did twenty two personnel produce
this week? Six plays and it gained seventy eight yards
and it scored two touchdowns. That's good for thirteen yards
per play compared to one point five yards per play
in three receiver sets. And you scored touchdowns on thirty
three percent of those snaps. And the beautiful thing is

(02:12):
the Wattle touchdown. Again, Essentially thirteen personnel and it's hard
play action with the secondary and the entire defense for
that matter, reacting to your run action, which goes to
further show you you do not have to have success
in the run game to run effective play action one
of the biggest tropes in the entire National Football League.
It's a beautiful, esoteric sport that nobody that rules all

(02:36):
sports in America. Yet I feel like there is a
grand misunderstanding on so many of these little minute details,
just like this. You can run the ball for nineteen
yards in a game and still hit a go ahead
touchdown with five minutes to play on play action to
your best receiver. And in this play, it's not even complex,
is not even more complicated than that. Wattle just runs

(02:57):
past the coverage. That's all that happened. That's all it is.
When it comes to misdirection, play action, tendency breaking, you
can get guys on their heels.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's how you create explosives.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Doesn't have to be they're spamming this part of the field,
they're taking away this area. It doesn't have to be that.
You can dictate that yourself. You show one thing. You
sell the lie, which usually has like a pulling guard
or run action from the tight end, or maybe you
have a duo con whatever you do on the on
the keys on the offensive line, they have to sell
the lie, then you have to attack it from there.
They sole run action from a run formation. Bang, forty

(03:29):
six yard go ahead touchdown.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Go figure.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
If you put twelve and twenty two together, that's one
running back to two tight ends, and two running backs
and two tight ends. We ran fifteen plays from those
heavy groupings one hundred and twenty six yards two touchdowns.
That's eight point four yards per play on that Wattle touchdown.
Falling out of chronological order here, this is exactly what

(03:52):
I've been harping on with Wattle for years. First, the
way he comes out of the blocks on this route
is how he comes out of the blocks on every
single route full speed.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I'm gonna threaten you.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm gonna make you think about where I'm gonna go,
and I'm gonna gash you on every single snap. I'm
gonna get on your upfield shoulder and threaten you vertical,
whether I'm part of the progression or not. And look,
Tyreek Hill was all world here. I'm doing the Trump
hand things now.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
He was our world here.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I'm doing the accordion hands right now, like, but he
didn't do that every single snap. That's why I was
so excited about seventeen becoming the first guy in the progression.
And because of that consistency, he catches the corner completely
napping and flies right past him like I think Tyreka
had done more of that. Again, this is not to
bag on Tyreek at all. Tyreek's a phenomenal football player.

(04:38):
He changed our lives as Dolphins fans for two years.
He gave us the best two years we've had in
the last twenty five. But in terms of getting the opportunities,
that's kind of on him for not, you know, treating
every single run rap and brotherhood route and take away route,
takeoff route like you treat it all the same.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Eventually you'll catch him napping. It's like a pass rusher.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
They can have fifty snaps, so they get nothing going
in a game, and that one big stack changes the game.
So they were in Cover three on this play against
a light box and they show a two high presentation,
which is two safeties, you know, twenty yards off the
ball gave or take, and most rotations out of this
formation is a cover one where the or cover three possibly,
but the one safety will step in the center field

(05:16):
position close the middle of the field, and one safety
steps down into the crossing routes. That's called the rubber
and the linebackers are completely influenced. And it was a
touchdown from the moment to it hit the top of
his drop. Just a perfect call against the right defense
in that moment at the right time, and a perfect
effort from Wattle and a good ball from Tua.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
We'll get back to Wattle.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Let's go back to the offense and how it operated
in a post Tyreek world. You look at the pocket
two it had on that play. The run action, that's
your bread and butter with regards to pass protection. The
horizontal wash takes the Panthers all the way out of
the play. You put this up next to a mirror
against like the third and ten on the next drive

(05:55):
that we couldn't get anything going on to it takes
a sack third and ten, true dropback situation, no thread
of ren action. They tee off and we're not built
to stop that type of pass rush. So that's where
you get this juxtaposition of how this offense needs to
function to be the best version of itself, and there
was nobody within ten yards of Tua from the time
of the snap to the time he cuts it loose.
And as we go through the review on the show,

(06:16):
you'll learn why that's going to be so important for
the quarterback that Tua is at this stage of his career.
Nine plays of eleven personnel during seventeen to nothing, fourteen
of them after. But during the entire course that entire stretch,
the first five plays in the game, there was a
twenty two personnel onslaught and it gave you three yards
from Olie Gordon, an incomplete pass to Julian Hill, but

(06:37):
then a ten yard touchdown passed it Devon eighth Chan,
a twenty one yard complation to Darren Waller Alli goes
for negative three. The next time we called it was
the Wattle touchdown. So you went from the seventeen to
nothing portion of the game at the beginning of the
second quarter was when that onslaught stopped to the Wattle
touchdown with five minutes to play in the game. So
there was what thirty I don't know math thirty five

(06:59):
minutes forty minutes of game time where you didn't go
back to that personnel grouping that was averaging what did
I say, thirteen fifteen yards per play, Like, you know,
that just seems like an opportunity to take advantage of
something that was working the entire game long. It was
similar from twelve personnel ran it five times in the
first quarter during the seventeen zero stretch for ten yards,

(07:22):
fourteen yards, a sack for minus ten two yards, and
twenty one yards. Then during the second and third quarters
we ran it four more times one yard, seven yards,
seventeen yards, and two yards. So I think we continue
the progression from Monday Night Football in the script of
the game and the moment Tyreek Hill got hurt and
the adjustment at that point of the game, because the
next nine plays in that game were twenty one, twelve

(07:43):
and twenty two personnel, right, and more of that success
carried over to the Panthers. We've run fourteen plays of
twenty two personnel this season. That's two tight ends, two backs,
one receiver. On those fourteen plays, four touchdowns, two other
pass plays that were explosives of twenty plus and one
more explos run play a fifteen plus, So seven of
the fourteen plays were touchdowns or explosive plays.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's half of them.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Half of those plays are game changing plays, and it
feels like that was kind of built into the script,
and then once the game flow begins, it's like a
golf swing seth Levitt, turn off your headset. He hates
when I compare stuff to golf here, But it's like
in your golf swing on the driving range, you can
have all these swing thoughts and you can get through
these swings with perfect intention, and the minute you get
to the te box on whole number one, all of

(08:28):
your old habits revert back and you become the less
lesser golfer. Like you have to find a way to
compartmentalize and stay with what works, stay with that into
out swing, and keep going throughout the course of the game.
For Posterity twenty one, personnel struggles a bit here. Seven
of the sixteen plays went for one yard or less
for no gains or losses.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Right on balance.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Fifty five yards on sixteen plays, three point five four
yards per play. That's well under where you want to be.
And while I think the numbers by formation are instructive,
you also just have to execute.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
That's most the game, and the coaches give the player
as an opportunity to execute, they have to go execute,
Like the Alec Ingle drop that was one of our
plays in this in the big the heavy grouping twenty
one personnel and it's a possible sixty yard touchdown if
you watch it if he catches it, but we just
drop it. I me he's not gonna score because they
would have caught up to him, but it was there
was nobody in space ahead of him on that play.
Nick Westbrook Akene is in a tight end type of role.

(09:21):
He was the slide option from an attached position, so
he's gonna come under the formation and that kind of
durham smythe that's been Julian Hill before John hus Smith
has run it. He comes under the formation and to
what kind of fakes the read inside on the zone
read and then pulls the ball out and can kind
of flip it to that slide option going horizontally to
the line of scrimmage. It feels like you could sprinkle

(09:42):
him in and this extra tight end type and really
mess with the defense's ability to match your groupings. And
like that's kind of my comeback to, like, you know,
being defiant against the options of groupings. There was a
lot of eleven personnel groupings with Nick Westbrook a keene
kind of being that secondary tight end. It just didn't
really work, and that's kind of on Nwi. I thought
he had a rough time executing in those positions. I

(10:04):
thought the Dolphins did a cool job of using different
matchings pairings rather to get to well matched route concepts
and combinations like Waller and Waddle to influence the coverage
for the other one. On Wattle's second and ten catch
on the first drive, Waller runs a flat route and
to the outside and he holds that flat corner and

(10:25):
you have to threaten to occupy that space otherwise that
cornerback is just going to get depth, sync back into
that secondary route and pick it off. But Waller held
him in that position. A few plays later, on the
thirty four yard play to Waller, there's a half field
safety on the numbers to that side of the formation
with both Wattle and Waller, and that safety chases Wattle,

(10:46):
who goes on a vertical up the perimeter and it
opens up that post back inside for Darren Waller, where
the other half field safety was playing under a crossing
route expecting Waller to flatten that route out, but he
runs the post, the skinny post. Wattle creates a space
from one safe and to it puts it on the money.
So good design, like really good construction of an offensive
game plan to take advantage of where they think your

(11:07):
strengths are. I think there's a bit of a catch
twenty two in the Running game right now.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Though.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
On one hand, some of the designs in this running game,
like when it works, like that's brilliant, man, all these
false keys, multiple polers, They got guys going in different
directions and you're just messing with the minds of the
linebackers and it sparks explosives.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know that you can pretty much create from the
game plan.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
But gosh, the other side of that coin is when
you look at the negative runs, there's usually some type
of combo or attachment or site adjustment on the fly
that just doesn't get made and it results in an
unblocked man. You'll see guys look at each other like
there was a play on the first drive where Nick
Westbrook Akine is a support player and he doesn't get
the block that he thinks he needs from Julian Hill
and he kind of looks at him like what was that?

(11:48):
And it's like that was your responsibility?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Brother? Was that you were me?

Speaker 1 (11:51):
So I wonder sometimes if you're better off just drawing
it up basic and trying to out execute them. Maybe
a middle ground. That's kind of how I feel, like
a little bit of both, right, get to the creative stuff,
but also have it in your back pocket, kind of
like you had against the Bills on the Ali Gordon
opening touchdown drive. Just run inside zone and double team
a couple guys at the point of attack and just
out physical them. Speaking of Ali, he had a run

(12:13):
in the second quarter where you just got drilled by
an unblocked man. That's kind of what I'm talking about here,
all this action running in different directions, and it feels
like you can point to a lot of the negative
plays over the last couple of years, and the Dolphins
have paced the league in that regard, and it's just
not being able to pick up every single option in
a complex scheme. And when you're talking about one to eleventh,
go look at my man. Eric Smith's breakdowns, the great

(12:34):
offensive line coach for the Dolphin for Dolphins Twitter like
he does a great job explaining offensive line responsibilities is
way better than I can. And he consistently tells you
about all these plays. They are just one play, one block,
one angle, one chip, one decision by the running back
away from exploding into a long touchdown run. And that's
I mean, it sounds like it's not a lot, but
it is because one eleventh is computations nine percent.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
It's under ten percent under that, but that's a pretty
big chunk of eleven, right, the nine percent of it,
Like that's if you run that ten plays Like that's geez,
I'm trying to do a math hero on the air
and not making a good point. But the idea is
you have to execute all eleven to hit those big plays,
and when you miss one, that's how it goes. And
it seems like that's the case a lot, Like on

(13:20):
the Malik Washington pop pass before the Devon eight chan touchdown,
the edge goes completely unblocked and Larry Boram doesn't have
a man to block. Is that because he just messed
it up or was it just a lot on his plate?
And the way the Panthers bumped the line of scrim
manager or slid the defensive line maybe it changed the
responsibilities and not everybody picked it up. It's a lot
to pick up in a blink of an eye, and
I think it contributes to a lot of the negative

(13:41):
runs you have in the offense. So I think there's
a lot to like, there's some stuff to clean up.
McDaniel said as much in his press conference on Monday.
And the last note I'll make is some of the
relationship synchronicity between route combinations. Once again, like I talked
about with w Waller and Wattle Wile on Waddle, there
was a nice dagger concept which is a the one
receiver runs a dig like an eighteen yard dig, and

(14:03):
the two receiver, the slot runs a vertical to clear
out that safety and then the one receiver runs that
dig off of the clear out route. It's called dagger concept.
That was a good combination of two speed receivers. We
had a wheel with Connor Tanner Connor as the vertical
or as the sorry the wheel with Nwi the vertical.
That's a big body type of combination there. That's more

(14:23):
of an inline tight end type of bodies. Like your
tendency breaking with prototypes in an effective way. There was
one where Alec Ingle was on the rail with NWI
on the slide early in the game. They came back
to it with Malik Washington on the slide and Taj
Washington on the rail. The slide is the under route
we talked about. The rail is just basically a takeoff
route on the outside, So lots of fun options there,
like this option to go ahead and take our first break.

(14:44):
At this point of the podcast, we'll come back and
talk about the quarterback play, the offensive standouts, everything else
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saw that PFF gave to a like ninety passing grade
in this game, and I think it's because he probably
threw a deep ball to Waddle like I'm gonna you're

(15:05):
gonna hear me talk about this here, and there's gonna
be ups and downs. But I thought two have played
a pretty good game for the most part. I think
that the last drive is what is gonna get fans
mad at him. Uh he that the miss throw on
the second down was like a game changing miss, which
is critical and a big spot. But the third down play,
you know, watching the tape, he had nowhere to go
with the football, which was the case on most the sacks.
But I thought he played pretty well to his best

(15:26):
ball though to me in this coincides with twenty two
personnel and how effective that option has been comes when
he plays under center, like, it's pretty clear to me
he was so comfortable on that play action shot to Wattle,
clean pocket to assess from makes him so dangerous because
his best trait placement and process when he's not having

(15:47):
to think about the rush. It's crystal clear he's one
of the best quarterbacks in the league when he gets that. Now,
that's an ideal circumstance, and I get that in this
league it's about playing in less than ideal circumstances. But
he cuts that thing loose before Wattle is even to
the defender, puts a lot of air under it. I
like the way too throws those deep balls. I saw
people complaining about it being underthrown. Shut up, man, Like,
I'm sorry for being for being crass about it. But

(16:09):
like complete the pass. If you overthrow him, you have
no chance. If you underthrow you have a chance for
dp AL. Get get to the guy and don't overthrow
them like I would way rather have that than an
overthrow bang touchdown. On the season when two was under center,
we averaged six point seven yards per play. When he's
in the gun or the pistol, four point nine yards
per play, So you know, like the proof is in

(16:31):
the pudding, the proof is in the numbers. But from
any look, I thought he was sharp as hell early
on that entire first three drives, super sharp. The play
to Alec Ingold that was dropped was a nice job
reading out that hook curl flat linebacker who was kind
of in conflict there. He motions with Alec that linebacker
does at the snap, but Tua holds him by pressing
him vertically opposed to getting the width he needed and

(16:51):
it creates that passing window. Tua takes him out of
the play, throws a strike to Alec, but he drops it,
and that could have been a sixty three yard touchdown
if he could outrun a linebacker there. And there were
a handful of plays where we had to This is
kind of like goes back to the thing I talked
about on the Sunday Night recap was there's just a
different level of restrictor plate on this car, like in

(17:12):
exactly street street legal, Steve, got you blew? You blew
that one? Going for a old school joke there didn't work.
Got my ic tea right here, though, Honey. There's a
handful of plays where the restrictions of the offense are notable,
like straight up throwaways with no real pressure on the quarterback,
and it's the timing of the play, like the progression's
out there, just get rid of it, and it's you know,

(17:33):
we wanted that for so long, but now it's like,
be careful what you wish for. There was a throwaway
on drive one. On drive three, waddle is wide open
on a dig, but two has only got eyes for short.
And again, this is one of those things where like
I probably need to know more about what they call
for in that quarterback room, but I just want to
tell you guys what the tape shows me. So like
it was, it became open down the field after he

(17:54):
had already checked it down with nobody in his face.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
So that was two.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Then the first play after the waller touched down start
of a new drive, he has all day to throw.
Wattle uncovers late on a twenty yard dig and it's
a touchdown because the backside safety had lost eyes on
a vertical route, and if he just takes one more
hitch up and drives the ball down the field, Wattle
is going to be running naked for fifty yards for
a sixty yard seventy yard touchdown. But the ball's already

(18:18):
out then the scramble short of the sticks. I don't
get the point of making the decision to run so early.
And I talked to Crabs about this and he's like,
I can't fault too for that, and I'm like, you're
probably right, but I just want to discuss it. He
was never going to get to the sticks on that play,
so like, my question is why not attack the line
of scrimmage horizontally and look for the pass because a
throwaway on third and ten is the exact same thing

(18:39):
as an eight yard run, right, Like, you're still putting
the ball the other way, and Waller uncovered right as
he got towards the line of scrimmage. My question is
flatten that thing out horizontally. And that might be unfair
because the defender did leave Waller to stop the run,
but they might do that anyway if you attack horizontally too.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Probably felt he could have got there.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I just think it's worth discussing I had had a
fourth one also where he made the right decision based
on his abilities, but again the limitation to get outside
of an edge who Tua had the advantage of the
corner on, but he had to pull up and throw
it away because the edge erased that space quickly. I
thought the first three series of the game, though, again
was pure comfort top of the drop on time in rhythm,
putting balls right on target. The ball to Waller on

(19:18):
fourth down could not have been handed any better on
an out route absolute dot. I don't know how the
progressions work to break this down properly, but Malik Washington
uncovered on a route from the backfield where he presses
up on the slot cornerback and runs a post where
he at the same time he breaks off to the
post that hook linebacker.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
The whole defender in the middle.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
He left that area and two is probably working the
man versone like the front side of the formation first,
and I get that, But Malik did uncover for a
what would have been a wide open touchdown on that
like fade route to Julian Hill. The next play was
maybe his best throw of the day. Next to the
fourth down throw to Waller, that triangle window throw to Waddle,
who kind of bobbled that catch coming out of the
break before the touchdown to a Chan has to settle

(20:00):
Wattle into a triangle of Panthers defenders with anticipation, and
he did it perfectly.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
That was like vintage Tua.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
The throw to eight Chan is a case of good coverage,
perfect pass that you can't beat, and a hell of
a catch too. Tua playing the best ball of the
season to this point of the game. Two passes to
Waller before the touchdown and then the touchdown itself was
elite anticipation and throwing around. The leverage of a robot
technique defender. Robot technique is when your back is turned
to the quarterback and you can only defend what your

(20:27):
body with is because you can't see and move based
upon the football. And he's got his back to the
quarterback and two throws it right underneath him. It kind
of seemed like it surprised the defender, but even if
they're covering the target, you can make a off frame
throw and he made it happen. He did it twice
on those plays with a high degree of success.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
So he was rolling and.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Between those throws, beating a blitz with a hot to Wattle.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
He was cooking man.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
There's another one of those, his best balls of the day,
a twenty yard dig to Wattle. He threw that thing
before Wattle sunk his hips, but Cole Strange got caught holding.
There was a scram throw it to Malik Washington late
in the third quarter where I thought he build on
a clean pocket and maybe could have stepped up and
drilled that thing, but winds up extending and then throwing
the ball out of bounds. Honestly, the lack of production

(21:11):
in the middle part of the game was a combination
of a few things.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I don't know that Tua could have done a lot more.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
He had Wattle on a deep ball on the drive
before we hit the deep ball, but a bad snap
did not let him get his feet set on that play.
The only part of the game where I felt really like, like, uh,
Tua probably wants that back is the second downplay on
the last drive, which was bad. He threw an out
to Wattle from the two leak was open as the
one on the first down play. Again, I'm not sure.

(21:37):
I don't know the calls, but just from the naked
eye like Malik was wide open and he threw to
a covered wattle, but the mist to waddle on the
next play, the second downplay. That's a throw that he's
probably hit two hundred times in this offense. But this
is indicative of a larger issue. I raised there's a
sign of pressure. It's a it's a te stunt and
Patrick Paul squeezes it and closes down a gap that
looked like it was open for the defensive tackle to

(21:58):
crash in on before the or the edge to crash
in on before the defensive tackle loops around that and
to us you can see him sense that, and he
rehitches and gets his feet in his base off wide
like to anticipate a hit to help himself, roll out
like the Judo style, rollout right to protect himself. And
because of that, the armslot drops and the ball sales.
And that's a critical miss in a part of the

(22:19):
game where you can't miss, because it puts you in
third and ten against pass rushers who know the pass
is coming, You're not gonna win. That's how this that's
how these late game drives progress. This way, you get
one miss or a drop pass, whether it was Tyreek
kill against the Bills a couple of years ago, or
Chase Claypool, whoever the hell drops the pass and then
Tua has to make a play on third down protection
breakdown and then we lose a game like it just

(22:40):
he couldn't get his feet set on that play and
winds up selling the throw to Waddle and it's just
a cavalcade of errors from there. There was nothing he
could have done on the sack though, and that's why
we got to hit the second downplay because again this
offense and the restrictions of it, with the limitations physically,
but also this like protects yourself mentality, It's just it
is what it is. That's what is at this point

(23:00):
of the game, of our current state. Here the sacks
before I get to the standouts here, the first one
was an immediate loss from Jonah Savit Naya, no chance
for the play to develop. The second one nothing open,
the tea stunt beats col Strange, no chance to develop there.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
The third one, same thing.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
The Panthers just overwhelm our pass protection and get the
two with nobody open at the top of the route.
So all three of the sacks I thought were on
the protection up front, the individual standouts. Jalen waddle Man,
You're gonna get sick of hearing me talk about this guy.
With the final twelve games, We're gonna do a breakdown
on HQ tomorrow or on Thursday that I'm very excited
about to show you guys. Everything about his route detail
is special, whether he's running a brotherhood route, which is

(23:37):
I'm not in the progression, but I'm going to clear space,
or he's the first read in the progression. If you're
a film head, just watch the way defenders are playing
pre snap. You can see where their coverage responsibility eventually becomes.
And then you see Wattle's release and the urgency to
change that thought from the cornerback, Like if they're thinking
I have to get into this cloud position, He's going
to threaten him deep and push him off the cloud,

(24:00):
gets guys as a clayer to flip their hips to
get depth out of the zone that he wants to work.
It's high level, nuanced. You have to study it to
see it. He knows the coverage, he knows where the
man has to protect, how to threaten that and then
get them to over commit and then peel off it
is beautiful to watch. Typically, the guys that do that
have gaudy production, and that's how national names, that's how

(24:21):
they get on national radars, right because you can't miss
a guy posting fourteen hundred yards. And the last time
Waddle was in an offense that featured him in that way,
he went for fourteen hundred yards. Waddle could have had
two hundred yards in this game at his fingertips, if
we didn't have that cold, strange hold, if we didn't
miss that throw from two on the last drive, if
we didn't have the low snap on Brewer to the

(24:42):
deep ball before the deep ball happened because he beat
and stacked JC Horn on that play. I'm going to
show you guys that on the episode of HQ. He
was awesome in this game. Jalen Waddle really really good.
Patrick Paul's physical traits are on display every single week.
He is so good with his hands in pass protection.
He's quiet and confident in it. He's so deadly out
in space. But I think just the footwork and the

(25:02):
reads that he makes are so sharp every single week.
The way he sets up screens or getting out wide
on outside runs. He's so patient in a position where
he's it's very easy not to be like you can
kind of panic and get your technique wrong, but he
doesn't do it. He hit a wide block at full
speed on Mike Jackson, the cornerback where he starts inside
the hash and makes a block wide of the numbers.

(25:23):
That's just a twenty five yard run for a left
tackle and eight chan cuts off of his butt. That
is nice work by a left tackle. His pass pro
reps look like a breeze, like it's not even hard
for him. Some of the guys in this league can
win ugly. I think Austin Jackson's kind of an ugly
winner sometimes and strain their way through reps. Larry Boram
had some of that, but he hits the punch, absorbs
the shock, drops the anchor, and like no switt off
his brow.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I thought Aaron Brewer was good, not great in this game.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I don't have any specific notes, but just running off
angles wide, throwing guys at the ground when they try
to challenge him physically, good anchor and pass pro. He
had a couple of misses, but continues to look all
pro to me at that position, and the one low
snap have been costly because again Wadle had a step
and Tua could not set his feet.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Waller, this guy's pretty good, right.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
He kind of gets on guys in a way that
surprises them, like he can sink the weight and transfer
out of his brakes. Pretty good for a guy his size.
It's not crazy sudden, but it's subtle and effective. The
way he gets into the route from an attached position,
that why position. He squares his guy up and really
sells the run action like I'm gonna block you, then
releases into the route. It's adept. The way he caught
that back hit ball on the quick hit or the

(26:28):
tight end dump that two of three two him Ralph alone,
scrimmage for the big catch and run, just reach back,
pluck that thing, keep rolling.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Good player man.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
And by the way, watch the way he tilts the
coverage on the eight Chan touchdown. It's a two x
three look. Two of the guys growing with Waller, and
Chan gets one and beats him then like he catches
a dig on that drive that he would later score
on where he stacks J. C. Horn and trail technique
threatens the out widens Horn bends it back inside and
the balls right there a step a plus stuff from

(26:56):
him and Tua on that play. I thought Larry Boren
played really will his best game as adult, and he's
been pretty good through five games. I know there's a
couple of bad sacks that people like to point out
and say those three snaps out of the five hundred
are not good enough. For the three hundred, they're not
good enough, but he's been good front side. Wash held
his own in pass protection. He got a lot of
help in that regard, but he never got be outside

(27:16):
of one pass rush where TWOA got the ball in
the end zone to Julian Hill, or tried to, i
should say, but he's pretty adept at the jump set
cut off the edge and then the player tries to
widen that loop and run the arc and he just
stays in contact and kind of forces him to go
all the way out of the play.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Some individual misses here.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I thought, you know, Devon Hchen interesting game because that
catch was legit one of the best catches I've seen
from running back ever. His pass pro was really good,
but I felt like his tracks and decision making were
back to like twenty twenty four. Devon Chan after the
best of his career last week against the Jets. In
my opinion, jonahsavit Andya is really struggling. Mike mcdaland talked
about it as press conference today. Jamal Bush Rob broke

(27:52):
this down on the post game show where he throws
the two hands out and it just kind of gives
the pass rush a target to swipe and like, you
decline yourself so quickly, the guys can just deconstruct his
blocks from there. The feet stop like the first sack,
the jump set. That's how we play it. But you
got to come compact otherwise you're gonna overrun it. You're
gonna get overextended, especially against a veteran a pro like

(28:13):
Derek Brown. He had a miss combo on the eight
chan run for no yards in the second drive where
Bru gets a little bit off balance but recovers and
nicely repositions the center and then Jonah overruns the off
ball linebacker like across the board, just staying attached, getting
displacement pass pro. I think Jonah's gonna be okay at
some point, but to expect it to click this year,
it's gonna take some time, I think, and right now

(28:34):
he's kind of going through it. Cole Strange is so
frequently stuck in his place with his man winding around
half of his body and he just can't. It's why
he gets caught for holding a couple times in this game,
the sack on the stunt. The next drive, he raises
a twenty yard pass to Wattle, getting beat across his face.
I thought Nwi had some miss blocks in the running
game jet motion in the red zone, missed the next

(28:55):
block he had as well his route on the wall
or fourth down conversion though, to kind of up and
force coverage off of him.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
That was nice.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
And then I thought Julian Hill struggle to stay attached
to his mat at the point of attack. I had
him with four misses as a point of attack in
the run game. Snap counts two and the offensive line
go the distance fifty five snaps across the board. There
Wattle forty nine, Nwi thirty nine, Mo League Washington thirty two,
and then Taj and D three and two eighthm plays
forty eight snaps all, he plays fourteen, Alec plays sixteen,

(29:23):
Waller thirty two, Julian Hill twenty nine, and Tanner Connor eleven.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I'm curious see how how they adapt next week maybe
gets even more of that twenty two and heavy personnel.
Let's take our last break, come back and watch a
tough defensive tape. That's next Draft Time podcast, brought to
you by Auto Nation and the Dolphins Defense. And this
is something Jermon bush Rod pointed out. Second mention for
Jamal Who's gonna be on HQ and Draft Time this week.

(29:50):
He pointed throughout the post game show that I think
you'll see the juxtaposition of it if you watch this
back in the first two snaps. The first play, they
run duo two double teams at the point of attack,
and Jordan Phillips stacks it up well, and we're gonna
talk about Jordan Phillips here in one second. But Seeler
gets washed out. But you see the players more anticipation,
almost inviting contact into our chest, into our bodies, and

(30:12):
it's letting the offensive line dictate the terms. And then
we have to disengage from a displaced position and try
to get off the block and make the play three
yards down the field. But you look at the second
play of the game, the screen that we blew up
and Bryce Young throws it off of his own offensive
Lineman's helmet, Zach one gaps, he grips and rips and
just blows through the offensive line. I think that's instructive
throughout this tape about how this front could probably benefit

(30:34):
from more one gap penetration style opposed to two gap,
read and disengage, which is what has been for a
long time. But that's the style of the defense, but
it just has been more effective when they've been one gapping.
We'll see what happens, but that's what the tape tells me.
There's just too much of that of letting the offensive
line dictate the terms and then it's got a funny

(30:55):
tech sorry, and then not playing connected on the back end.
Right now, in coverage the first two plays of the game,
you totally shut it down. It creates a third and eight.
Then we get we don't get depth from the curl
flat defender and cover too the cloud corner and there
wasn't a flat route there to hold him, like, so
what are we doing just covering grass to cover grass?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Like That's kind of my question there.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
They cover on the broadcast saying that kind of thing
cannot happen from Rasull Douglas and it does right here.
The first turnover of the game was a good job
by Bradley Chubb. He made the right play, But that
fumble was just Bryce Young. You know, the the meme
of the dog the jiff where he's peeing all over
the floor. That's kind of what Bryce Young did right though.
But hey, you put yourself in the right position consistently,
good things will happen. I thought they did a good

(31:34):
job another funny text. I thought they did a good
job of pushing the pocket on the Bryce interception. Benito
got the most surge. But if you look across the board,
like it's kind of pattykcking across, Like, you know, matt
Judnt has a one on one, Matthew Butler has a
one on one, Benito has a one on one, Zach
Seedler has the double team, and there's not a lot
of push outside of Benito Jones getting some surge. There
something else with the structure of things. I think it

(31:56):
works when you are stout against the run, but the
soft and off combo with the run defense being where
it is, that's to me the crux of why this
side of the ball is struggling. Like, truthfully, you don't
really have to go beyond the run game stuff, because
when you get knocked off the football by three yards
and you average seven yards after contact like that entire thing.

(32:18):
You can't win games in the NFL doing that, but
the pairing together makes it even tougher. I thought they
did a good job getting tired in the second half,
so we'll see if they can adjust that as we
go forward here. But it's been so strange to watch
Zach Sieler getting taken out of games like they're double
teaming him. He's getting complete displacement, his cleets aren't digging
into the ground. He's not got a lot of opportunities
to make plays. I do think he's would be better

(32:39):
off again more like one gap upfield rush scheme, but
he's execution and scheme wise, it's just not there for
him right now. I thought there was some good design
from a rush perspective where we just got out executed,
like the fourth down play by Bryce Young to kind
of keep them in the game down seventeen. I don't
even know what that front was called. Basically, it's a
one technique which is off the outside shoulder of the center,

(33:00):
and a two I, which is off the outside shoulder
of the guard and then Phillips is a six technique
and from that position, Zach crosses face of the center
and Kenny pushes up in the B gap to basically
widen that gap for Phillips to stunt inside and kind
of curl inside of that opening gap. And it works
for Phillips. But what you need is Kenneth Grant to

(33:22):
continue pushing that guard upfield to cut off Bryce Young's
escape hatch to the right. But he can't do it
because the guard anchors and stops kg. You want the
interior pressure to run Young into Grant, but they anchor
on him. He gets out wide and Dante Trader comes
down and brackets Ted McMillan and does a good job
on that. But then he extends and makes a great play.
We overrun the quarterback with two guys. It's just like

(33:44):
you know Murphy's life. Everything that can go wrong does
go wrong. There's not a lot to break down like
it's just from a structure a standpoint. They just got
out physical that's got to change, right. I thought there
was three guys that got in my notes for standout.
Jalen Phillips with regards to the two gap stuff and
scheme stuff. I think he's been the best of the
bunch in that regard, and a lot of it's playing
like four technique, head up over the tackle, like he'll

(34:05):
condense inside and play some of the best football where
he can win in a foam booth. Had that really
good pass rush rep where he won inside the Taylor
Moten one of the best tackles in the league as well.
He's shown some chops there. He's coming along. I think
Phillips is kind of on the verge of kind of
stacking some numbers here, Jordan Phillips. There's a big disconnect
on this guy's game this week, But I don't see
the negative. Like I thought he played really well, just
only played twenty one snaps, could play some more playing time.

(34:28):
But like watch the guys that block him. They get
knocked back every time. It's it's like on repeat. Their
heads pop up. They're getting stood up straight. They had
a big run on the third drive where they came
off of his gap, but Tyrol Dotson run overruns the
play completely. Chop Robinson had two nice run stops, and
I thought did a good job playing flat against those
kickouts and pulling guards that were trying to like widen
him out of the formation, but he too only played

(34:51):
twenty one snaps. As far as the misses go, like
I mean Ashton Davis, he's a c and then go guy.
That's the best way I can describe him. There's not
a lot of anticipatory anticipat before he thought slow down.
Kenneth Grant has just been on skates. He's playing high
out of his stand, so it's tough to watch at times.
I think he'll get there, but it's a work in
progress right now. Jack Jones had a snowball of a game.

(35:12):
The bad Hole early got lost in coverage a couple
of times. The effort on the explosive runs is where
he lost me, quite frankly, his angles against the run.
It's a tough watch man. This was the Lion's practice
over again, and I just kept getting more. Like he
takes the bait on a screen, they throw it behind him.
How many times am I going to say?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Like?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
That was a tough one? Like the first run on
the second half, he totally turns it down. It doesn't
want anything to do with it. Then the response to
that was to come back and peanut punch the next time.
And neither of those work. They were two long plays
that like thirty yards on Both those runs were had
because Jack Jones didn't step up and make a play.
Tyrrel Dotson the first explosive run just felt like he
was guessing. And it was more of the same from
his year so far. I even thought Jordan Brooks got

(35:51):
caught in the wrong gap a few times. Matthew Butler
if e Mela fun We was still Douglas Cornel Armstrong
like I don't want to belaevor it. It just wasn't good
across the board snap counts. Minka played win the Dozzant
seventy and then Brooks, Jack Jones, and Rasoul played sixty
nine snaps. T dot played forty five snaps and got injured.
kJ Britt filling for twenty two of those snaps. Willie
Gay gets just three again in this game. Zach Seeler

(36:13):
fifty six snaps. Kenneth Grant had a reduction down to
thirty and that gave more snaps to Butler, who had
twenty nine. Bonito played twenty. Jordan Phillips played twenty three
in the game. Jalen Phillips had fifty three Bradley Chubb
had fifty two, Judon had twenty. Chubb had twenty one,
and the other defensive backs, Cornell Armstrong played twenty three snaps.
We were now on our fifth string Nickel, right, who
is it going to be? I mean it has to

(36:35):
be safeties because Armstrong's gonna miss some time. Marshall Junior
is on the IR cater COO who's out for the
season obviously, and then we cut Mike Hilton, So yeah,
fifth slot cornerback if he played twenty five snaps. Trader
played twelve. Ashon Davis played fifty eight. My top five tapes,
they were all on the offense side of the football.
Jaalen Waddle is the number one tape. He was awesome.

(36:55):
Darren Waller was number two, Patrick Paul was number three,
to a tongue of Bi Loa number four, and Larry
Borham number five. That's my film review from the Panthers game.
We're never gonna talk about it again. Let's go ahead
and call it a podcast. We'll be back on Wednesday
with Matt money Smith from the Chargers play by play booth.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
We'll do that.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
We'll have the Thursday preview and Friday We'll have Jermon
bush Rod on the show. Plenty to come away this
week on the Drive Time Podcast. In the meantime, please
be sure to subscribe, rate, review the show, follow me
on social at winkfod NFL, the team at Miami Dolphins
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Dolphins dot com. Until next time, Caroline Cameron and Willow Daddy,

(37:33):
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