December 4, 2024 • 36 mins
Travis welcomes in Jets reporter Caroline Hendershot to the show to breakdown this week’s matchup. Plus a look at the Dolphins offseason of past, and what lies ahead.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To our Removedlin Deep Speedways, Peace do Hell. From the
Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my ad
hands in the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Drift Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
we are going to hear from Caroline Hendershot from the
Jets as she helps us get a first look at
the opponent this coming Sunday. But before that, we did
the Jekyl was Jeckell the good guy? I forget? We
did the Jeckyl Podcast yesterday taking a look at how
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the Dolphins can make it a December to remember. But
today is going to be the Hide episode where we
take some look at some ugly truths about where the
Dolphins are today and how we got to this point.
We'll talk about where the fixes are and we'll just
kind of give you guys a bridge into what to
look forward to when this season eventually does go belly up.
From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
This is the Drive Time Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Ye, So I think the best way to do this
is to first assess what happened this off season, and
I want to start with the hits and talk about
who has a future as part of the core of
this roster before we get into philosophical changes in how
to make things better in twenty twenty five. So, first off,
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I think the offense has two surefire offseason hits. They
are John Newsmith and Aaron Brewer. Aaron Brewer is the
perfect quintessential outside zone heavy Mike McDaniel offense center, and
they got him for three years. They got him for
relatively cheap. He was an upgrade on Connor Williams. The
snapping issue has been resolved, his ability to get out
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in space has been phenomenal. He's been good in pass pro.
He's a good unicator and leader. That is a five
star home run acquisition in Aaron Brewer. I would put
John Smith in the exact same category because of the
way he has maximized what this team wants to create
with all the space with Waddle and Tyreek, and his
ability to catch the ball, get upfield and be a
difficult tackle is exactly what Miami needed at that F position.
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Now the tight end the Y position, they need something
more there we'll get to that one second. Kalaias Campbell,
especially when you factor in the savings at the position
and who they had to replace there, I don't think
there's been much of a drop off. There's a definite
snapcount drop off going from Christian Wilkins to Kalaias Campbell,
but in terms of the production, at one twentieth of
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the cost has been a home run signing. He's still
a great player even at fifty sixty percent of the
snaps in a given game. I think Jordan Brooks is
going to fit the mold of we're going to talk
about later on the show in Temperature Changers.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
He's a tough dude.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
He brings a certain mentality, and he is the type
of guy that can lead your defense and be a
cornerstone for a long time. Good cover backer, good rangebacker,
all the things you need. In twenty twenty four, Kendall
Fuller has been fantastic the way he maximizes the flexibility
in the secondary, his cover skills, his instincts to play
not just his man, but the entire route concept. I
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think he's a very good defensive back who can do
it for a long time. Because of his position flexibility,
and then Chop Robinson's the one draft pick right now
that looks like a surefire home run in that first round.
I know the sack production hasn't been great, but he's
been building, he's getting better, he has the right makeup,
he's leaning on veterans and coaches. I think you're gonna
see a big, a big second year from Chop Robinson,
even if he doesn't finish up strong this year, which
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I think he'll do that as well. And then we'll
see on Jalen Wright and Lake Washington. But I do
feel very good about those guys, especially the former In
Jalen Wright. You had two massive misses, and they were
two spots where you kind of had to get better at.
And it's Jordan Poyer and Odell Beckham Junior who I
think it's safe to take the L there. I think
I'm gonna have to be the one that eats that
L because I was telling you guys how great of
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a pickup he was going to be and turn out
to be. John Smith was the guy that kind of
gave us what I was looking for from Odell Beckham
in terms of that next option. Beckham was supposed to
be the other guy that could stretch the field. He
has not been that for the Dolphins this year. And
the effort, the complaining, the body language, lack of celebrations
after big plays from his teammates, all of that just
don't love it. And I don't have to tell you
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guys about Jordan Poyer because you've seen it on film
every single week. I think you have a bunch of
future core pieces here at primary positions. Your quarterback is
locked in. In my opinion, I think Waddle is going
to be a Dolphin for life. I hope Devon a
Chan's in that group. He has shown you some bell
calibility despite some I think lapses in vision this year
that has cost him some potential big runs and even
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some grinded out yards. I would like to see him
be more of a quasi receiver and running back with
a lesser role in the core concept of your running
game and get more from that from Jalen Wright next year.
But we'll see how that plays out. And then I
put Johnny in the category. Even at his age, I
think he can play for two or three more years
as a core piece here. Brewers obviously in there. I
think Austin Jackson has shown you what his absence has
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meant at the right tackle position. I put one player
in here that doesn't match the rest of the players
because he's only played like fifty snaps in his career,
and as Patrick Paul, simply because he has to be.
You can ask to Ron Armstead back next year, but
you know what you're signing up for with that, so
we'll see what happens. But I think Patrick Paul has
to be part of that Zach Steeler, even at his age,
I consider him to be a guy that can do
this for a long long time. I mean guys like
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Brett Keesol and Cameron Hayward. Why not only talking about
Steelers here, but those guys played deep into their thirties
and at that position and played a really, really good
football for that long. Jordan Brooks talked about him Jalen
Phillips despite the injuries, which I understand you can't count
on that going forward because of two major season ending
surgeries the last two years, but I still think he's
a guy that can come back and be what he
was before. I have Chopp in this category as well.
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At defensive back, I have Jalen Ramsey, and I think
that he can be at Charles Woodson down the stretch
of his career. Now will he want to endure what
I'm going to propose here in one second? We will see.
But I do think he's part of that core. And
then I have cater Co who is part of that,
and I Kendall Fuller, I don't. I think the cliff
is closer for him than it is for Jalen Ramsey.
So I did not include him in that position there.
But I think that cater if you can get him
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on a cheap contract, is really good as number three
four cornerback on your roster to be part of that core.
So there's a lot there to work with. I mean
I talked about quarterback, receiver, tackle. I mean there's two
tackles in that list. I talked about two edge rushers
to two corners in that group. So we're talking about
some of the premier positions in the league that cost
the most, and you're well set up in those spots
despite the fact that you kind of have to pay
for a lot of those because you're already paying for
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Tua and waddle John who's got his contract, and you
know Phillip is going to have to get a contract
chopped down the road in four years. Ramsey has his money,
but you're pretty well set in terms of the players
you have at those core positions.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I think it's enough that I think that you can execute,
And this is the plan I'm kind of teasing out here.
You could execute a soft rebuild this offseason and put
yourself right back in the playoffs, while you also mount
a deeper core that can do what the Lions are
doing right now and what I thought we could accomplish
even just two or three years ago. Go and be
a team that is so deep at every position that
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you can withstand the highs and lows of the game.
You can withstand a poor performance from your quarterback or
from your defense, and you can win football games when
not all of your core pieces are working because you're
so deep and so well built.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I thought we were going to get towards that. We
are not that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But I think you have enough core pieces right here,
with enough draft picks and capital down the road to
put yourself in position on a soft rebuild to get
back into that position to be one of those teams
that you were in last year in terms of preseason.
Is this team with the Ravens and the Bills and
the Chiefs in terms of their ability to contend late
in the year. I think you can get back to
that with a soft rebuild, and let's go ahead and
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put a pin in that and come right back to that,
because look, you know, time for like a Meya Kolpa
kind of fall on my sword here a little bit.
I've been the biggest proponent of this is a good roster.
They built it properly. Then I thought things kind of
took a turn in basically twenty twenty two. And it
coincides with getting aggressive when they were on the cusp.
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You look at a team that last year was nine
to three with a two touchdown lead with three and
a half minutes to go against the Titans and games
coming up against the Jets and Cowboys at home with
one more win or two more wins from that position
from being yea, one more win from being division champions,
and you could say, like it was perfect. You were
in the position that you wanted to be in to
be a deep, you know, contender down the stretch into
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late January. But then we blow that game, we lose waddle.
A couple of weeks later with an already banged up Tyreek,
we lose Connor Williams, Rob Hunt's not been right the
entire year. Then Bradley Chubb goes down, then Andrew van
Ginkel on top of losing Jalen Phillips a few weeks earlier.
This is where the thread was lost, and it goes
back to the twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three
offseasons where you didn't re you know, you basically did
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not refill the hopper with quality, perspective talent. And while yes,
I agree that getting proven talent is great, especially for
a team that has some of the best drafts in
the league in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty one
and had a quarterback rookie contract, I think that was
a good approach. But then you stopped refilling the cupboard
and you missed basically on the entire draft in twenty
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twenty two. At this point, I don't I'm not so
sure that we obviously Tendall and Azukama where big misses
and you know, haven't been part of this team for
three years now, and then it's getting that way with
Cam Smith, where in twenty twenty three you didn't get
much outside devon a chance. So where it was good
to be aggressive, it was probably too aggressive. And it's
only too aggressive if you also miss on your picks.
Like that's where things kind of get wonky, and where
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it worked for the Rams in the f M picks
model because they kept getting contributors on day two and
three of the draft, and that just hasn't happened enough
here to refill that hopper with prospective talent like the
great Kyle Krabs made a really good point to me
in one of our private text messages about how the
Vikings had that fugaisey of a thirteen and four year
right that was not a true thirteen win team, and
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we learned that by them getting beat by freaking Daniel
Jones on the wildcard round and rather than pushing it
with a roster that was kind of lucky to get
there and try to go the Mike tannenbaumb route and
just fill holes with names on a free agent list.
I think that's where we got off the rails a
little bit, because the push of the accelerator was the
move when it was probably time to kind of pull
it back a little bit and go status quo and
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refill the depth and youth of the roster. And I'll
tell you this, losing a first round and third round
draft pick sure as hell didn't help in that pursuit.
So the question is, now, what do you do? Travis.
It's back to what I think they can do to
make this all work. And I think about the options,
and the other one that makes the most sense to
me is a soft rebuild, and it pairs with the
philosophy shift and it's centered around the quarterback. And you
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might say, well, Travis, he's four and three this year,
and so what good is that going to do us.
He still hasn't had the signature win in his career,
and that's where I'd start to push back, because I mean,
I've been on this crusade for a while now, but
you know, to his maturity into the position where even
two years ago I didn't know he was capable of this,
the way he's taken ownership and the way he is
the one that gets everybody wrong in the right direction.
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He is the type of quarterback that I think you
can oversee bringing in younger parts of the roster, the
two can get in line. He can be kind of
the de facto principle of the group there with obviously
the head coach being the superintendent, but you have to
have that at the quarterback position. And I think it's
what can allow teams to go soft rebuild opposed to
full rebuild. But you can also back to the four
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and three record point. You can point to three losses
and just say like, well, yeah, the quarterback was gone.
Then you get him back, and there's two more losses
you know we took because of the defense. And like
in the Cardinals and Bills losses, if we have you know,
Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb and Zach Seeler, those games
are different dynamics and you know, oh weird they get
up on teams and can't close them out late. I wonder,
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I wonder how losing three of your best pass rushers
will do that. And I think that was my biggest
personal heir in assessing the roster this offseason was I
thought the edge group would be okay, but they haven't been.
They've they've been depleted by injury, right, But that also
doesn't take into account you know, Jordan Poyer hacking away
at JP's knees. Even just having him would be a
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game changer. You know, I thought we'd have Chubb by
the bye week. That obviously did not happen. I was
counting on Shaq Barrett, who had really good tap with
the Bucks last year. But all of that's gone, and
then you add a poke in the eye of your
best interior defensive linemen in practice to miss the two
most important games of the year at that point, Like,
I'm convinced we win those games with just Zack Seeler.
Imagine having JP and Chubb and Shaq Barrett like that
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would have helped you close those games out.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And you know, there's that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
There's the Chris Kaufman, the three Arts per Carry podcaster
had the great tweet about Fangio and the points that
he made and how in hindsight, Fangio was kind of
spot on, even though he was a grumpy old screwge
around the building. And luckily I trust Anthony Weaver. But
I think that we need to see more personal upheaval
on that side of the ball and the guys that
we've prioritized in Jordan Brooks in Anthony Walker to a
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much less degree, but he's been productive in his his role.
Kalaeis Campbell, like these guys have been hits. Chop Robinson's
been a hit, so I think that his input's quality
and valuable. But here's what I really want to talk
about is the offensive shift that I'm kind of pining for,
and about how the Chiefs a couple of years ago,
after winning championship, right, they moved on from Tyreek And
you always look back at that and say, well, of
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course he had two seventeen hune yard seasons. He's been
a big part of what this team has accomplished the
last couple of years. But an organization like the Chiefs,
you know, Brian Winhors, why would they do that? Why
would they move off Tyreek Hill? And this is where
it goes back to the quarterback position, because I think
what the Chiefs noticed in twenty twenty two was this
new trend of defenses refusing to give up the vertical
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passing game, defenses inviting more of the run game ie
Isaiah Pacheco, and of course the investment in the Clyde
Edwards lair that did not work out, and rounding out
that receiving corps with more ancillary short options and using
the resources you got from your game breaking receiver to
fill out the defense and the offensive line with draft
picks and the money you saved from that position, because
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teams are going to stay in those two high coverages
regardless of who you have these days. So I would
follow that mold, and I would move off the superstar
receiver and replace him with the rookie contract and spend
your new resources on a couple of things. I would
categorize it this way. Athletes guys that move different than
other people, especially on the defense side of the football,
where I feel like the Dolphins lack big time explosive athletes,
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and then temperature changers on defense. Your Derwin James types,
your Brian Branches, you'r Roquan Smith, you're Max Crosby's. You're
guys that don't take no ish off of nobody, like
the Jamaican Bob sled team on Cool Runnings. Right the
bathroom scene, like when he wants to punk the guy
in the bar. I see a bad mother effort who
don't take nothing off nobody. Let's adjust the offense though,
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to more suit the style. Play off the quarterback, because
what I look at here is a league trending in
the direction with all these two high shelves and all
these different coverage looks that can you know, force teams.
I would throw in the deep ball and it's all
gonna be played within ten yards of line of scrimmage
these days. Well, to me, like Tua's game translates to
the future of the league in that way more than
just about anybody, because he's so sharp at hitting those small,
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fine windows in the short passing game. So if I
can have a rookie, you know, I think like a
Tae Kwon Thornton from a couple of years ago, who's
been nothing in paige in New England, but a player
that has straight line speed, it can get vertical. Maybe
Xavier Worthy is a better choice for that. But if
I can replace the thirty million dollars a year guy
with that for three million bucks a year, that can
get the same impact, and I can round out the
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rest of the roster as a result and really lean
into my quarterback strengths where maybe it is time to
go run game, short passing game, offensive line protection, because
Tua does mitigate offensive line play in a lot of ways.
But you can also maybe say that like his ability
to play this way and get through progressions, you can
add to that by getting more upfront. I still think
that I would take the resource that you get from
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that and put it on defense and still continue the
way you do with the offensive line. In some sense,
I wouldn't neglect it entirely, but I think that you
don't go Chiefs level investment or our bucks level investment
on the offensive line because of what tua strengths are,
and you should lean into the fact that he can
help you mitigate some of that, not all of it,
but some of that. So adjust the offense to this
current model. And people always ask him why is they're
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not more short routes for wreaking Wadle. It's because they
want those guys running the intermediate and vertical stuff and
not put them in those shorter routes. And I think
you can get that from other guys as well, and
maybe you do have an adjustment where it's like, hey,
we are going to run stick with tyreek er or
waddle here and get more completions to those guys in
short areas. Build them into the game plan and get
them more confidence and get their stats going and all
that stuff that breeds more production from those guys. So
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adjust the offense to suit the modern style of football,
especially with how it coincides with the strength of your quarterback.
And invest in the running game, because when this offense
is really cranking, it's the running game. And the tackle
position has been a big fall off at right tackle
and the tight end position. We have to find our
Darnell Washington. Gosh, he was on the board for US
back in twenty twenty two. I wanted that or twenty
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twenty three. I wanted that guy so freaking bad. So
invest in the running game with an actual, y, classic
tight end, with maybe a little bit better investment in
the offensive line, maybe one more bigger type of back
that can run those cold weather days. And I think
Jalen Wright probably is that guy. In exchange a week
for a deeper, younger, cheaper slew of wide receivers. Does
that work for you, guys, Let's go ahead and take
a break right there, come back and I have more
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to get to on the other side, including my chat
with Caroline Hendershoot Hendershot rather from the Jets. That's next
Drive time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you
by Auto Nation. So that's the plan laid out, and
I want to just continue the same exact topic a
full two segment segment here in one segment and or
one segment in two segments.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And you know what all this w.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Affords you the opportunity to do when your quarterback is
your best player. And first, you know, and I know
this is a small fraction of Twitter that I need
to not generalize as the entire fan base, but I
see people suggesting blowing this whole thing up and offloading Tua. Like, guys,
if you're out there, well, first of all, we know
that you're not older than eighteen years old, because anybody
who's watched the Dolphins for a decade or more knows
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how long we waited for just competence at the quarterback position,
because without that, you are a non starter in terms
of competing in important football games, like we've had important
football games last five years because we've had a good
quarterback play.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You can't have one without the other. So we've got that.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And he's twenty six years old, and he gets better
every single year, and his skills are the type of
skills that increase with experience. And to put a bow
on the whole professional thing, this entire little segment here,
I think often about something I was told a while back,
and how this team operates, and there's like a certain
threshold of effort that gets hit where people hit that level,
and it's like, that's not my job, that's for somebody else.
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And that's how I kind of think this team is
outside of everybody except for number one, is what I
was told, And it reminds me of the story about Somebody, Anybody,
everybody and nobody. Do you guys remember that postgame after
the rams Ta mention that this he said, I would
say for us, it's sort of the it's not your
job mentality. I don't know if you guys have heard
the story about of the four people Everybody, anybody, somebody
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and nobody, And he says, well, I can't tell the stories.
I don't have the exact quote, but sort of it's
the mentality of it's not your job, and so let's
go ahead and cut off to us quote there, and
I'll read you guys the exact story.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So I found the story.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
This is a story about about four people named Everybody, Somebody, anybody,
and nobody, and there its an important job be done,
and everybody was sure that somebody would do it. Anybody
could have done it, but nobody did it. Somebody got
angry about that because it was everybody's job. Everybody thought
anybody could do it, but nobody realized that everybody wouldn't
do it. It ended up that everybody blamed somebody when
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nobody did what anybody could have. I think that's kind
of what you have here in terms of how this
whole thing shakes down. And look the injuries for Tua,
I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That's where you can push back and say you can't
go forward that and I would understand that.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I totally do. I shoot back when he got hurt.
I was like, we can't risk this again.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But I've bought back in because he's taken some hits
and he's hopefully never does that again where he drops
his head into a tackler. But he's what you've been
searching for for years, guys, and he's developed in the
type of quarterback that you can run things by, right,
like the kind of de facto GM alongside the head
coach and the GM. And if you ask Tua, I
think he'd agree with me. There's more of a clear
pivot you can make this offseason in the way McVeigh
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did with the Rams to kind of load up in
those areas and be less concerned about the deep vertical
passing game. You can maintain your core offense and you
can add to it to get potentially some addition by
subtraction in the locker room. Now you might have to
do it without the highest paid receiver in football and
just have one of those guys, and you will have
to hit on a cheap receiver who provides more value.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean, think about this.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
For what you're paying Tyreek, his net value is kind
of a negative for his production this year because he's
not producing that much. If I get his production at
three million bucks a year or whatever, you're paying a
high round rookie or a low level free agency receiver
that doesn't really exist anymore, then it becomes a boon
of value and I can divvy up those resources elsewhere.
So it starts with moving off of ten. We should
lean into to his new skill set. Replace Reek with
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a less polished burner, make Wallle the centerpiece of the
entire offense, keep pounding it with eight Chan and John
Hui Smith, and use those Reek resources to give you
a jolt on the defensive side. Of the football, further
develop Jylan Wright and Malik Washington a new number two receiver.
I want a true why. I think you get that
in the draft and invest in some mid round capital
on the offensive line, across the interior, do that with
the returning players and who help you with that continuity
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and let's get that pipeline turning. And then defensively, just
I want temperature changers dogs. When I look at free
agency and I see Buddha Baker available, a guy like that,
a Derwin James type of personality who comes in and
just rises all tides. What what do they do when
the pile gets stacked up on defense? How do they
arrive to piles? What motivates them? Do they run through
it and make the tackle or do they just kind
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of patty cake it on the back end? Is there
an edge to the player if emby When Trevor Lawrence
said that he doesn't really need football.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's just something he does.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Doesn't that kind of attract the way his career's gone,
Compare that to how two was obsessed with the game,
refuses to retire just by multiple like serious injuries. You know,
I was talking about this guy on social media but
Shamar Stewart from Texas A and M watch him play.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's the kind of guy I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Someone that physically violently goes out and attacks people and
gets mad when it goes wrong, and celebrates when it
goes right and chirps it guys when it goes right.
Edge dog a certain mentality, same exact thing, the way,
same one defense, the way, two obsesses over knowing every
coverage and rotation. I need somebody who has a screw loose,
whose only medicine is dishing out punishment to make guys
feel that effect. Quite frankly, it's a player like Deshan Elliott.
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Let's take our last break rate there, come back on
the other side and talk to Caroline Hendershot from Jets
dot com. That's next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
brought to you by Autoation. Welcome back into the Baptist
Hell Studios as we get ready for another Dolphins game
with the New York Jets in town. Time to go
across enemy lines here and welcome in Jets reporter Caroline Hendershot.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Caroline, welcome in and how was your holiday?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Thank you so much for having me so excited to
be here.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Holiday was good. It was very quick.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I feel like Thanksgiving came and went before we even realized.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And Christmas is ride around the corner.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
So I feel like this next chunk of games is
going to absolutely fly for everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, this time of year always seems to go
by fast, especially with little ones like my kids make
the Christmas season go by faster. I feel like, so
the games go by faster and the holiday season all
intertwined into this crazy time of year. And you know, Caroline,
I almost never go backwards on my show here, but
I have to do it here because I watched that Jets,
Jets and Seahawks game kind of in the corner of
my eye. It was one of those rare Sundays where
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you don't have your team playing, so you get to
watch the rest of the league. And it seemed like
every time I looked up at that you know, off
off screen Jets Seahawks game, when I looked up, something
crazy was happening. Can you tell me what it was
like to watch that roller coaster ryde go through those
highs and lows there at MetLife Stadium on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It was insane.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I feel like a lot of times when you're watching
an NFL game, the momentum switch that you can actually
feel is not that common, Like maybe there's one or
two a game where you can actually tell. Okay, this
was the point where the momentum really changed for the team.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It was back and forth.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
It was truly like a ping pong match for the
first half.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
It was crazy.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Everything that you thought could happen did happen, so all
the bases were covered. But yeah, it was definitely very
back and forth on who had the momentum in the
first half, and then of course the second half just finished,
finished the game out and the Seahawks took over. But yeah,
it was a crazy momentum swing.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
How do you feel like the Jets, I guess changed
or came out of the bye week, because it seems
like oftentimes, who was it that I saw earlier this
year someone came out for the bye week. It was
the Raiders playing the Dolphins, actually is what it was,
and they just had like a different approach, like everything
was different than what they showed on tape. How do
you think the Jets took the bye week and how
do you think they changed from that week off?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, I think the bye week. I feel like people
are always kind of like, oh, you know, it's the
perfect time.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
To self scout, but truly like it is.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And this was the first time that the Jets had
that opportunity all year because the schedule for them this
season has been insane. They played five games in October,
they only played two in November, but then September was
filled with prime time Sunday night football, Thursday night football,
so it has been pretty chaotic for them.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So I feel like the chance.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
To actually watch the tape catch their breath really helped them.
And one thing that coach Olbricks said going into or
coming out of the bye was that he wanted to
get special teams going. That was one area that he
noticed maybe wasn't giving enough pressure and maybe there were
some things that they could tweak. And I mean you
saw it with kinay one Wu. He just absolutely took
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off with that ninety nine yard kick return touchdown. And
special teams as a whole, I feel like had one
of their best games of the season.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Not to mention was that three Seahawks fumbles on kickoffs
and two the Jets got in that game. I just
I could every time I looked up, it was like,
what's going on in the metal lands right now?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Because that game is out of control?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And yeah, it's interesting to see how teams come out
of the bye week and despite you know, the record,
despite the loss, despite all the ups and downs of
that game. I felt, and to your point that you
just mentioned that, the Jets like showed you, you know,
as they have all year, these moments that kind of
validated some of the preseason hype they got this summer,
and that's obviously not been a consistent thing, but they've
shown that time. So I guess my question is, Caroline,
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from a ten thousand foot view, how would you describe
what happened and the difference between the expectations, you know,
a popular preseason Super Bowl pick to the reality of
three and nine. What's been the disconnect between those two
things being what was supposed to happen or you know,
predicted to happen versus what has happened.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I think it's so hard, but really what it comes
down to is so many little moments like those.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Just they say football is a game.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Of inches, right, and they were not lying when they
said that, because there were so many times in so
many games where if a ball bounced one way, or
there was a catch that was made or a tackle
that was made, the game would have gone completely differently
and the Jets would have come out as winners instead
of losers.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Or vice versa.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
So I just think that there have been a lot
of little moments for them that haven't been what that
like the standard that they would pride themselves on, and
they'll be the first to tell you that. But I
think one thing that every player has brought up has
definitely been penalties.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
That has been something that they have.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Been trying to correct and coach Ulbrick has been emphasizing.
But I think a lot of it has just been
these little little moments that then add to that add
up and then end up making the game go not
the way that they had hoped.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That's the beauty of this league, right I think I
saw a tweet earlier the eighty percent of the league's
games this year have been within eight points, So one
score contest for you know, four out of five games
that get played, and Dolphins fans can do the exact
same thing in the Cardinals game, the Bills game, the
Colts game. There are there's one play in each of
those games you can point to and say, if that
had just gone the other way, Dolphins have three more
wins right now, But that's not the reality of it.
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At five and seven, trying to keep their playoff hopes
alive with the win over the Jets on Sunday. My
guest is Caroline Hendershot from the Jets reporter. I should say,
and I talked to coach McDaniel this week about the
connection between Rogers and DeVante Adams because they've he's you know,
coached in San Francisco for so long, he saw those
guys in the playoffs pretty much every single year, and
he really described kind of the chemistry between those two.
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But as you talk about those little moments, I'm wondering, like,
how far along has Rogers and Adams in the Jets
chapter of their story careers together come along Because as
much as they have that you know, built in synchronicity,
I kind of feel like, as you get there for
the trade deadline and you know, mid season, it's probably
tough to pick that up right away. How have you
noticed those guys this connection together and how? And then
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I guess the follow up to that would be, how
does Garrett Wilson factor into, you know, the receiving pecking
order with DeVante Adams arriving there in October, right, I.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Think you said it best, like people almost immediately assumed like, oh,
it's like.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Riding a bike.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
They're gonna pick up right where they left off in
Green Bay. But of course it takes a little bit
of time with anything to just get back to that level.
But I really feel like people saw it against the Seahawks.
They had a couple first downs that were made possible
because of that connection and that chemistry, like Rogers would
just find Avante and it would just click and he
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would catch the ball when he needed to, and there
were some really pivotal first downs that were made because
of that connection. I think the beauty of it is
that Garrett Wilson, the way that now you have to
view it as a defender is, Okay, we can't double
team both of them, so you kind of have to
pick your poison when you have both of them on
the field at the same time.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And that makes it even much that much more dangerous.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Because obviously Garrett Wilson has made insane catches in his career,
not just this year, but then you're kind of only
leaving him against one defender, and that just creates a
whole another slew of problem. So I do think that
it's only beneficial. I know people originally were trying to
kind of create a story that like, oh, he's going
to take away from all the other wide receivers on
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the team, But I don't think that that has been
the case at all. I think it's only enhanced the receivers.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's funny because you know, you see three and nine
on the record going into this game, You're like, Oh,
that should be a team that you should be able
to beat. But then you look at the roster and
it's like, I don't know, man, Like they have so
many guys that can still do it and can still
beat you in a moments.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Notice that's all it takes. To your point.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You know, one play here and there in games can
be the difference between winning and losing in this league.
So it's definitely a fun matchup for those reasons. And
I want to go back to the other side of
the BA the Jets defense here real quick for a
couple of questions, Caroline, because I was doing the math
on this, and the Dolphins have averaged one hundred and
forty yards on the ground against the Jets since McDaniel arrived,
or they find a way to get the ball off
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the edge and run the ball very successfully. And then
I got more intrigued by the matchup of this system
versus that defensive system. And I went back this year
and looked in the Niners and Texans, which is Kyle
Shanahan and Bobby Slowick two of the Shanahan offshoots or
one as the originator, and they had the two highest
rushing tolls against the Jets this year as well. So
I'm curious, how have you kind of taken or I
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guess evaluated the Jets run defense this year, and how
is it preparing to stop this Dolphins run game that
hasn't been great the last couple of weeks, but in
history has gotten lost success against the Jets run defense.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
I think the run defense has been something that the
entire defensive staff, all of the defensive players have been
emphasizing as something that they want to improve on and
really set the edges better and just contain those backs.
I think it's been something that they have emphasized, but
they also have been emphasizing their own like they want
to get the run game going for the Jets offense.
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So it's kind of twofold in that regard, But I
do think that something people were maybe saying was, Oh,
that's because CJ. Moseley isn't in there the linebacker and
a captain for the Jets, but Jamie and Sherwood has
really come into his own this year.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
He has taken that.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Role over as Mike linebacker for the Jets, and he
has been performing at a really high level and has
been getting the defense organized and doing the job to
really the highest standard in my opinion. So I think
that while they can continue to improve upon the run defense,
that it's definitely made strides throughout the season.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Sherwood's one of those guys that I remember watching Jets
back in the preseason being like, who is that guy?
Then here he is in the regular season making all
kinds of plays. So the Jets seem to always find
their off ball linebackers, that's for sure. And something else
they have plenty of two is good cornerback play, and
that's kind of the premier matchup in this game. And
how we'll close before our final question, which is how
the just can find a way to win this game
in Miami. But can you preview this Reek and Wattle
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versus Sauce and Reed and Michael Carter matchup because I'm curious.
I know that for Tyreek and Wattle, they look forward
to the challenge, you know, every year against these guys.
It's gotta be the same way for the Jess cornerbacks
against the Dolphins receivers.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I think these cornerbacks pride themselves on their level of play,
their physicality, and just what they are capable of doing
as a trio. And of course I think the nickel
cornerback always gets maybe a little overlooked. Michael Carter is
just he blows my mind. I think he is so smart,
he's so good at the position, and it's very underrated
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in my opinion. But yeah, Sauce and DJ, that combination
I feel like has been really aggressive this year. They
I think will be the first ones too to tell
you like, there's been some plays where maybe the communication
wasn't up to their standard, or things got away from them,
or there have been some penalties, but that doesn't mean
that they're not holding themselves to the high standard continuously.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
And excited for that challenge.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
I know that it almost feels weird that the Jets
and the Dolphins haven't faced each other yet already, and
it's already Week fourteen, like I feel like usually it's
comes earlier in the season, So I feel like this
has been long awaited for both the DB's and probably
the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Wide receivers as well.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
But yeah, I will say, obviously the quarterbacks are the
big discussion. But someone who has come on to the
scene for the Jets who has been making quite a
name for himself, safety Jalen Mills. He was part of
a goal line stop last week against the Seahawks that
was really really important, and so he too has been
playing at a really high level too, so that's been
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interesting as well.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Does Jalen have the green hair still? Yes, he does, Okay,
I remember for the Eagles he had that. Then I
think he went to the Patriots and he might have
gone with the red hair. If not mistaken, I know
he's always had his hair match the team colors.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah, No, he is fully has the green hair, and
I love it. It's a great addition to the uniforms.
So it brings out the green on the uniform quite nicely.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, he flies around and hits quite a lot. And
to your point about these matches being so late in
the year, I kind of feel like the you know,
the schedule makers were like Jets and Dolphins, the Bills
maybe kind of regresting a little bit. This could be
the division, you know, for the division down the stretch,
didn't work out that way. One team gonna play out
the string, the Dolphins hanging on to playoff hope still
with with you know, the last five games to go
and hopefully trying to find a way to win all
those games. But the Jets can put us off to
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that right here with this game on Sunday. How do
you think that the Jets can come up with a
victory on Sunday over the Dolphins, Caroline.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
So, I think for them it really just comes down
to limiting those self inflicted wounds and those self inflicted mistakes,
like the penalties. I think if they can limit those,
that will be a big aid for them. But then
also I really think the special teams plays a really
large role. I know that obviously the Seahawks Jets game
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was an anomaly, maybe with all of the special teams
action that happened but I I do think that because
they highlighted the special teams unit as something they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Get going, and then Knae one Wu came in and.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Really has just electrified the kick return. I think that
has played a big role. So I think that while
people might overlook that aspect of the game, I think
that could be a big factor in a Sunday's matchup
between the Dolphins and the Jets.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Looking forward to it one o'clock here from hard Rock Stadium,
Dolphins and Jets. It's one hundred and sixteen times in
the making here this arrivaly, so looking forward to the
renewal of that for the first time in twenty twenty four.
Caroline Hendershot Jets reporter at CG Hendy on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
All Right, that was a fun, fun podcast taking a
look at or using the extra days I should say
this week, to take a look at maybe the future.
And in the meantime, we are going to press forward
with Dolphins wins. Hopefully in each and every win pushes
us one step closer to run the table and getting
back into the posts. And that's the focus for now.
When we are eliminated, we'll start getting the draft prospects
and do all that stuff. I thought you guys deserved
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a little taste of it right there on today's episode.
So yesterday optimist, today pessimist. But in the end, it's
all gonna be okay, was the general message of these
two podcasts. In the meantime, you all please be sure
to subscribe, rate, review the podcast, Go ahead and follow
me on social at Wingfield NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
The team at Miami Dolphins check out.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
My guys, Seth and Juice. They had Tim Ruddy on
the fish Tank podcast this week. You don't want to
miss that. Also the YouTube channel for Dolphins, HQ, Media
Availabilities and much much more, and last but not least,
Miami Dolphins dot com. Until next time, Fins Up, Carolin
Kamran Daddy means coming.
To our Removedlin Deep Speedways, Peace do Hell. From the
Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my ad
hands in the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Drift Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
we are going to hear from Caroline Hendershot from the
Jets as she helps us get a first look at
the opponent this coming Sunday. But before that, we did
the Jekyl was Jeckell the good guy? I forget? We
did the Jeckyl Podcast yesterday taking a look at how
(00:52):
the Dolphins can make it a December to remember. But
today is going to be the Hide episode where we
take some look at some ugly truths about where the
Dolphins are today and how we got to this point.
We'll talk about where the fixes are and we'll just
kind of give you guys a bridge into what to
look forward to when this season eventually does go belly up.
From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
This is the Drive Time Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Ye, So I think the best way to do this
is to first assess what happened this off season, and
I want to start with the hits and talk about
who has a future as part of the core of
this roster before we get into philosophical changes in how
to make things better in twenty twenty five. So, first off,
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I think the offense has two surefire offseason hits. They
are John Newsmith and Aaron Brewer. Aaron Brewer is the
perfect quintessential outside zone heavy Mike McDaniel offense center, and
they got him for three years. They got him for
relatively cheap. He was an upgrade on Connor Williams. The
snapping issue has been resolved, his ability to get out
(01:56):
in space has been phenomenal. He's been good in pass pro.
He's a good unicator and leader. That is a five
star home run acquisition in Aaron Brewer. I would put
John Smith in the exact same category because of the
way he has maximized what this team wants to create
with all the space with Waddle and Tyreek, and his
ability to catch the ball, get upfield and be a
difficult tackle is exactly what Miami needed at that F position.
(02:21):
Now the tight end the Y position, they need something
more there we'll get to that one second. Kalaias Campbell,
especially when you factor in the savings at the position
and who they had to replace there, I don't think
there's been much of a drop off. There's a definite
snapcount drop off going from Christian Wilkins to Kalaias Campbell,
but in terms of the production, at one twentieth of
(02:41):
the cost has been a home run signing. He's still
a great player even at fifty sixty percent of the
snaps in a given game. I think Jordan Brooks is
going to fit the mold of we're going to talk
about later on the show in Temperature Changers.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
He's a tough dude.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
He brings a certain mentality, and he is the type
of guy that can lead your defense and be a
cornerstone for a long time. Good cover backer, good rangebacker,
all the things you need. In twenty twenty four, Kendall
Fuller has been fantastic the way he maximizes the flexibility
in the secondary, his cover skills, his instincts to play
not just his man, but the entire route concept. I
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think he's a very good defensive back who can do
it for a long time. Because of his position flexibility,
and then Chop Robinson's the one draft pick right now
that looks like a surefire home run in that first round.
I know the sack production hasn't been great, but he's
been building, he's getting better, he has the right makeup,
he's leaning on veterans and coaches. I think you're gonna
see a big, a big second year from Chop Robinson,
even if he doesn't finish up strong this year, which
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I think he'll do that as well. And then we'll
see on Jalen Wright and Lake Washington. But I do
feel very good about those guys, especially the former In
Jalen Wright. You had two massive misses, and they were
two spots where you kind of had to get better at.
And it's Jordan Poyer and Odell Beckham Junior who I
think it's safe to take the L there. I think
I'm gonna have to be the one that eats that
L because I was telling you guys how great of
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a pickup he was going to be and turn out
to be. John Smith was the guy that kind of
gave us what I was looking for from Odell Beckham
in terms of that next option. Beckham was supposed to
be the other guy that could stretch the field. He
has not been that for the Dolphins this year. And
the effort, the complaining, the body language, lack of celebrations
after big plays from his teammates, all of that just
don't love it. And I don't have to tell you
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guys about Jordan Poyer because you've seen it on film
every single week. I think you have a bunch of
future core pieces here at primary positions. Your quarterback is
locked in. In my opinion, I think Waddle is going
to be a Dolphin for life. I hope Devon a
Chan's in that group. He has shown you some bell
calibility despite some I think lapses in vision this year
that has cost him some potential big runs and even
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some grinded out yards. I would like to see him
be more of a quasi receiver and running back with
a lesser role in the core concept of your running
game and get more from that from Jalen Wright next year.
But we'll see how that plays out. And then I
put Johnny in the category. Even at his age, I
think he can play for two or three more years
as a core piece here. Brewers obviously in there. I
think Austin Jackson has shown you what his absence has
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meant at the right tackle position. I put one player
in here that doesn't match the rest of the players
because he's only played like fifty snaps in his career,
and as Patrick Paul, simply because he has to be.
You can ask to Ron Armstead back next year, but
you know what you're signing up for with that, so
we'll see what happens. But I think Patrick Paul has
to be part of that Zach Steeler, even at his age,
I consider him to be a guy that can do
this for a long long time. I mean guys like
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Brett Keesol and Cameron Hayward. Why not only talking about
Steelers here, but those guys played deep into their thirties
and at that position and played a really, really good
football for that long. Jordan Brooks talked about him Jalen
Phillips despite the injuries, which I understand you can't count
on that going forward because of two major season ending
surgeries the last two years, but I still think he's
a guy that can come back and be what he
was before. I have Chopp in this category as well.
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At defensive back, I have Jalen Ramsey, and I think
that he can be at Charles Woodson down the stretch
of his career. Now will he want to endure what
I'm going to propose here in one second? We will see.
But I do think he's part of that core. And
then I have cater Co who is part of that,
and I Kendall Fuller, I don't. I think the cliff
is closer for him than it is for Jalen Ramsey.
So I did not include him in that position there.
But I think that cater if you can get him
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on a cheap contract, is really good as number three
four cornerback on your roster to be part of that core.
So there's a lot there to work with. I mean
I talked about quarterback, receiver, tackle. I mean there's two
tackles in that list. I talked about two edge rushers
to two corners in that group. So we're talking about
some of the premier positions in the league that cost
the most, and you're well set up in those spots
despite the fact that you kind of have to pay
for a lot of those because you're already paying for
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Tua and waddle John who's got his contract, and you
know Phillip is going to have to get a contract
chopped down the road in four years. Ramsey has his money,
but you're pretty well set in terms of the players
you have at those core positions.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I think it's enough that I think that you can execute,
And this is the plan I'm kind of teasing out here.
You could execute a soft rebuild this offseason and put
yourself right back in the playoffs, while you also mount
a deeper core that can do what the Lions are
doing right now and what I thought we could accomplish
even just two or three years ago. Go and be
a team that is so deep at every position that
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you can withstand the highs and lows of the game.
You can withstand a poor performance from your quarterback or
from your defense, and you can win football games when
not all of your core pieces are working because you're
so deep and so well built.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I thought we were going to get towards that. We
are not that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But I think you have enough core pieces right here,
with enough draft picks and capital down the road to
put yourself in position on a soft rebuild to get
back into that position to be one of those teams
that you were in last year in terms of preseason.
Is this team with the Ravens and the Bills and
the Chiefs in terms of their ability to contend late
in the year. I think you can get back to
that with a soft rebuild, and let's go ahead and
(07:39):
put a pin in that and come right back to that,
because look, you know, time for like a Meya Kolpa
kind of fall on my sword here a little bit.
I've been the biggest proponent of this is a good roster.
They built it properly. Then I thought things kind of
took a turn in basically twenty twenty two. And it
coincides with getting aggressive when they were on the cusp.
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You look at a team that last year was nine
to three with a two touchdown lead with three and
a half minutes to go against the Titans and games
coming up against the Jets and Cowboys at home with
one more win or two more wins from that position
from being yea, one more win from being division champions,
and you could say, like it was perfect. You were
in the position that you wanted to be in to
be a deep, you know, contender down the stretch into
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late January. But then we blow that game, we lose waddle.
A couple of weeks later with an already banged up Tyreek,
we lose Connor Williams, Rob Hunt's not been right the
entire year. Then Bradley Chubb goes down, then Andrew van
Ginkel on top of losing Jalen Phillips a few weeks earlier.
This is where the thread was lost, and it goes
back to the twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three
offseasons where you didn't re you know, you basically did
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not refill the hopper with quality, perspective talent. And while yes,
I agree that getting proven talent is great, especially for
a team that has some of the best drafts in
the league in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty one
and had a quarterback rookie contract, I think that was
a good approach. But then you stopped refilling the cupboard
and you missed basically on the entire draft in twenty
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twenty two. At this point, I don't I'm not so
sure that we obviously Tendall and Azukama where big misses
and you know, haven't been part of this team for
three years now, and then it's getting that way with
Cam Smith, where in twenty twenty three you didn't get
much outside devon a chance. So where it was good
to be aggressive, it was probably too aggressive. And it's
only too aggressive if you also miss on your picks.
Like that's where things kind of get wonky, and where
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it worked for the Rams in the f M picks
model because they kept getting contributors on day two and
three of the draft, and that just hasn't happened enough
here to refill that hopper with prospective talent like the
great Kyle Krabs made a really good point to me
in one of our private text messages about how the
Vikings had that fugaisey of a thirteen and four year
right that was not a true thirteen win team, and
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we learned that by them getting beat by freaking Daniel
Jones on the wildcard round and rather than pushing it
with a roster that was kind of lucky to get
there and try to go the Mike tannenbaumb route and
just fill holes with names on a free agent list.
I think that's where we got off the rails a
little bit, because the push of the accelerator was the
move when it was probably time to kind of pull
it back a little bit and go status quo and
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refill the depth and youth of the roster. And I'll
tell you this, losing a first round and third round
draft pick sure as hell didn't help in that pursuit.
So the question is, now, what do you do? Travis.
It's back to what I think they can do to
make this all work. And I think about the options,
and the other one that makes the most sense to
me is a soft rebuild, and it pairs with the
philosophy shift and it's centered around the quarterback. And you
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might say, well, Travis, he's four and three this year,
and so what good is that going to do us.
He still hasn't had the signature win in his career,
and that's where I'd start to push back, because I mean,
I've been on this crusade for a while now, but
you know, to his maturity into the position where even
two years ago I didn't know he was capable of this,
the way he's taken ownership and the way he is
the one that gets everybody wrong in the right direction.
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He is the type of quarterback that I think you
can oversee bringing in younger parts of the roster, the
two can get in line. He can be kind of
the de facto principle of the group there with obviously
the head coach being the superintendent, but you have to
have that at the quarterback position. And I think it's
what can allow teams to go soft rebuild opposed to
full rebuild. But you can also back to the four
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and three record point. You can point to three losses
and just say like, well, yeah, the quarterback was gone.
Then you get him back, and there's two more losses
you know we took because of the defense. And like
in the Cardinals and Bills losses, if we have you know,
Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb and Zach Seeler, those games
are different dynamics and you know, oh weird they get
up on teams and can't close them out late. I wonder,
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I wonder how losing three of your best pass rushers
will do that. And I think that was my biggest
personal heir in assessing the roster this offseason was I
thought the edge group would be okay, but they haven't been.
They've they've been depleted by injury, right, But that also
doesn't take into account you know, Jordan Poyer hacking away
at JP's knees. Even just having him would be a
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game changer. You know, I thought we'd have Chubb by
the bye week. That obviously did not happen. I was
counting on Shaq Barrett, who had really good tap with
the Bucks last year. But all of that's gone, and
then you add a poke in the eye of your
best interior defensive linemen in practice to miss the two
most important games of the year at that point, Like,
I'm convinced we win those games with just Zack Seeler.
Imagine having JP and Chubb and Shaq Barrett like that
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would have helped you close those games out.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And you know, there's that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
There's the Chris Kaufman, the three Arts per Carry podcaster
had the great tweet about Fangio and the points that
he made and how in hindsight, Fangio was kind of
spot on, even though he was a grumpy old screwge
around the building. And luckily I trust Anthony Weaver. But
I think that we need to see more personal upheaval
on that side of the ball and the guys that
we've prioritized in Jordan Brooks in Anthony Walker to a
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much less degree, but he's been productive in his his role.
Kalaeis Campbell, like these guys have been hits. Chop Robinson's
been a hit, so I think that his input's quality
and valuable. But here's what I really want to talk
about is the offensive shift that I'm kind of pining for,
and about how the Chiefs a couple of years ago,
after winning championship, right, they moved on from Tyreek And
you always look back at that and say, well, of
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course he had two seventeen hune yard seasons. He's been
a big part of what this team has accomplished the
last couple of years. But an organization like the Chiefs,
you know, Brian Winhors, why would they do that? Why
would they move off Tyreek Hill? And this is where
it goes back to the quarterback position, because I think
what the Chiefs noticed in twenty twenty two was this
new trend of defenses refusing to give up the vertical
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passing game, defenses inviting more of the run game ie
Isaiah Pacheco, and of course the investment in the Clyde
Edwards lair that did not work out, and rounding out
that receiving corps with more ancillary short options and using
the resources you got from your game breaking receiver to
fill out the defense and the offensive line with draft
picks and the money you saved from that position, because
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teams are going to stay in those two high coverages
regardless of who you have these days. So I would
follow that mold, and I would move off the superstar
receiver and replace him with the rookie contract and spend
your new resources on a couple of things. I would
categorize it this way. Athletes guys that move different than
other people, especially on the defense side of the football,
where I feel like the Dolphins lack big time explosive athletes,
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and then temperature changers on defense. Your Derwin James types,
your Brian Branches, you'r Roquan Smith, you're Max Crosby's. You're
guys that don't take no ish off of nobody, like
the Jamaican Bob sled team on Cool Runnings. Right the
bathroom scene, like when he wants to punk the guy
in the bar. I see a bad mother effort who
don't take nothing off nobody. Let's adjust the offense though,
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to more suit the style. Play off the quarterback, because
what I look at here is a league trending in
the direction with all these two high shelves and all
these different coverage looks that can you know, force teams.
I would throw in the deep ball and it's all
gonna be played within ten yards of line of scrimmage
these days. Well, to me, like Tua's game translates to
the future of the league in that way more than
just about anybody, because he's so sharp at hitting those small,
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fine windows in the short passing game. So if I
can have a rookie, you know, I think like a
Tae Kwon Thornton from a couple of years ago, who's
been nothing in paige in New England, but a player
that has straight line speed, it can get vertical. Maybe
Xavier Worthy is a better choice for that. But if
I can replace the thirty million dollars a year guy
with that for three million bucks a year, that can
get the same impact, and I can round out the
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rest of the roster as a result and really lean
into my quarterback strengths where maybe it is time to
go run game, short passing game, offensive line protection, because
Tua does mitigate offensive line play in a lot of ways.
But you can also maybe say that like his ability
to play this way and get through progressions, you can
add to that by getting more upfront. I still think
that I would take the resource that you get from
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that and put it on defense and still continue the
way you do with the offensive line. In some sense,
I wouldn't neglect it entirely, but I think that you
don't go Chiefs level investment or our bucks level investment
on the offensive line because of what tua strengths are,
and you should lean into the fact that he can
help you mitigate some of that, not all of it,
but some of that. So adjust the offense to this
current model. And people always ask him why is they're
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not more short routes for wreaking Wadle. It's because they
want those guys running the intermediate and vertical stuff and
not put them in those shorter routes. And I think
you can get that from other guys as well, and
maybe you do have an adjustment where it's like, hey,
we are going to run stick with tyreek er or
waddle here and get more completions to those guys in
short areas. Build them into the game plan and get
them more confidence and get their stats going and all
that stuff that breeds more production from those guys. So
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adjust the offense to suit the modern style of football,
especially with how it coincides with the strength of your quarterback.
And invest in the running game, because when this offense
is really cranking, it's the running game. And the tackle
position has been a big fall off at right tackle
and the tight end position. We have to find our
Darnell Washington. Gosh, he was on the board for US
back in twenty twenty two. I wanted that or twenty
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twenty three. I wanted that guy so freaking bad. So
invest in the running game with an actual, y, classic
tight end, with maybe a little bit better investment in
the offensive line, maybe one more bigger type of back
that can run those cold weather days. And I think
Jalen Wright probably is that guy. In exchange a week
for a deeper, younger, cheaper slew of wide receivers. Does
that work for you, guys, Let's go ahead and take
a break right there, come back and I have more
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to get to on the other side, including my chat
with Caroline Hendershoot Hendershot rather from the Jets. That's next
Drive time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you
by Auto Nation. So that's the plan laid out, and
I want to just continue the same exact topic a
full two segment segment here in one segment and or
one segment in two segments.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And you know what all this w.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Affords you the opportunity to do when your quarterback is
your best player. And first, you know, and I know
this is a small fraction of Twitter that I need
to not generalize as the entire fan base, but I
see people suggesting blowing this whole thing up and offloading Tua. Like, guys,
if you're out there, well, first of all, we know
that you're not older than eighteen years old, because anybody
who's watched the Dolphins for a decade or more knows
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how long we waited for just competence at the quarterback position,
because without that, you are a non starter in terms
of competing in important football games, like we've had important
football games last five years because we've had a good
quarterback play.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You can't have one without the other. So we've got that.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And he's twenty six years old, and he gets better
every single year, and his skills are the type of
skills that increase with experience. And to put a bow
on the whole professional thing, this entire little segment here,
I think often about something I was told a while back,
and how this team operates, and there's like a certain
threshold of effort that gets hit where people hit that level,
and it's like, that's not my job, that's for somebody else.
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And that's how I kind of think this team is
outside of everybody except for number one, is what I
was told, And it reminds me of the story about Somebody, Anybody,
everybody and nobody. Do you guys remember that postgame after
the rams Ta mention that this he said, I would
say for us, it's sort of the it's not your
job mentality. I don't know if you guys have heard
the story about of the four people Everybody, anybody, somebody
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and nobody, And he says, well, I can't tell the stories.
I don't have the exact quote, but sort of it's
the mentality of it's not your job, and so let's
go ahead and cut off to us quote there, and
I'll read you guys the exact story.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So I found the story.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
This is a story about about four people named Everybody, Somebody, anybody,
and nobody, and there its an important job be done,
and everybody was sure that somebody would do it. Anybody
could have done it, but nobody did it. Somebody got
angry about that because it was everybody's job. Everybody thought
anybody could do it, but nobody realized that everybody wouldn't
do it. It ended up that everybody blamed somebody when
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nobody did what anybody could have. I think that's kind
of what you have here in terms of how this
whole thing shakes down. And look the injuries for Tua,
I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That's where you can push back and say you can't
go forward that and I would understand that.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I totally do. I shoot back when he got hurt.
I was like, we can't risk this again.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But I've bought back in because he's taken some hits
and he's hopefully never does that again where he drops
his head into a tackler. But he's what you've been
searching for for years, guys, and he's developed in the
type of quarterback that you can run things by, right,
like the kind of de facto GM alongside the head
coach and the GM. And if you ask Tua, I
think he'd agree with me. There's more of a clear
pivot you can make this offseason in the way McVeigh
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did with the Rams to kind of load up in
those areas and be less concerned about the deep vertical
passing game. You can maintain your core offense and you
can add to it to get potentially some addition by
subtraction in the locker room. Now you might have to
do it without the highest paid receiver in football and
just have one of those guys, and you will have
to hit on a cheap receiver who provides more value.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean, think about this.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
For what you're paying Tyreek, his net value is kind
of a negative for his production this year because he's
not producing that much. If I get his production at
three million bucks a year or whatever, you're paying a
high round rookie or a low level free agency receiver
that doesn't really exist anymore, then it becomes a boon
of value and I can divvy up those resources elsewhere.
So it starts with moving off of ten. We should
lean into to his new skill set. Replace Reek with
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a less polished burner, make Wallle the centerpiece of the
entire offense, keep pounding it with eight Chan and John
Hui Smith, and use those Reek resources to give you
a jolt on the defensive side. Of the football, further
develop Jylan Wright and Malik Washington a new number two receiver.
I want a true why. I think you get that
in the draft and invest in some mid round capital
on the offensive line, across the interior, do that with
the returning players and who help you with that continuity
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and let's get that pipeline turning. And then defensively, just
I want temperature changers dogs. When I look at free
agency and I see Buddha Baker available, a guy like that,
a Derwin James type of personality who comes in and
just rises all tides. What what do they do when
the pile gets stacked up on defense? How do they
arrive to piles? What motivates them? Do they run through
it and make the tackle or do they just kind
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of patty cake it on the back end? Is there
an edge to the player if emby When Trevor Lawrence
said that he doesn't really need football.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's just something he does.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Doesn't that kind of attract the way his career's gone,
Compare that to how two was obsessed with the game,
refuses to retire just by multiple like serious injuries. You know,
I was talking about this guy on social media but
Shamar Stewart from Texas A and M watch him play.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's the kind of guy I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Someone that physically violently goes out and attacks people and
gets mad when it goes wrong, and celebrates when it
goes right and chirps it guys when it goes right.
Edge dog a certain mentality, same exact thing, the way,
same one defense, the way, two obsesses over knowing every
coverage and rotation. I need somebody who has a screw loose,
whose only medicine is dishing out punishment to make guys
feel that effect. Quite frankly, it's a player like Deshan Elliott.
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Let's take our last break rate there, come back on
the other side and talk to Caroline Hendershot from Jets
dot com. That's next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
brought to you by Autoation. Welcome back into the Baptist
Hell Studios as we get ready for another Dolphins game
with the New York Jets in town. Time to go
across enemy lines here and welcome in Jets reporter Caroline Hendershot.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Caroline, welcome in and how was your holiday?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Thank you so much for having me so excited to
be here.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Holiday was good. It was very quick.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I feel like Thanksgiving came and went before we even realized.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And Christmas is ride around the corner.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
So I feel like this next chunk of games is
going to absolutely fly for everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, this time of year always seems to go
by fast, especially with little ones like my kids make
the Christmas season go by faster. I feel like, so
the games go by faster and the holiday season all
intertwined into this crazy time of year. And you know, Caroline,
I almost never go backwards on my show here, but
I have to do it here because I watched that Jets,
Jets and Seahawks game kind of in the corner of
my eye. It was one of those rare Sundays where
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you don't have your team playing, so you get to
watch the rest of the league. And it seemed like
every time I looked up at that you know, off
off screen Jets Seahawks game, when I looked up, something
crazy was happening. Can you tell me what it was
like to watch that roller coaster ryde go through those
highs and lows there at MetLife Stadium on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It was insane.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I feel like a lot of times when you're watching
an NFL game, the momentum switch that you can actually
feel is not that common, Like maybe there's one or
two a game where you can actually tell. Okay, this
was the point where the momentum really changed for the team.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It was back and forth.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
It was truly like a ping pong match for the
first half.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
It was crazy.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Everything that you thought could happen did happen, so all
the bases were covered. But yeah, it was definitely very
back and forth on who had the momentum in the
first half, and then of course the second half just finished,
finished the game out and the Seahawks took over. But yeah,
it was a crazy momentum swing.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
How do you feel like the Jets, I guess changed
or came out of the bye week, because it seems
like oftentimes, who was it that I saw earlier this
year someone came out for the bye week. It was
the Raiders playing the Dolphins, actually is what it was,
and they just had like a different approach, like everything
was different than what they showed on tape. How do
you think the Jets took the bye week and how
do you think they changed from that week off?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, I think the bye week. I feel like people
are always kind of like, oh, you know, it's the
perfect time.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
To self scout, but truly like it is.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And this was the first time that the Jets had
that opportunity all year because the schedule for them this
season has been insane. They played five games in October,
they only played two in November, but then September was
filled with prime time Sunday night football, Thursday night football,
so it has been pretty chaotic for them.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So I feel like the chance.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
To actually watch the tape catch their breath really helped them.
And one thing that coach Olbricks said going into or
coming out of the bye was that he wanted to
get special teams going. That was one area that he
noticed maybe wasn't giving enough pressure and maybe there were
some things that they could tweak. And I mean you
saw it with kinay one Wu. He just absolutely took
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off with that ninety nine yard kick return touchdown. And
special teams as a whole, I feel like had one
of their best games of the season.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Not to mention was that three Seahawks fumbles on kickoffs
and two the Jets got in that game. I just
I could every time I looked up, it was like,
what's going on in the metal lands right now?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Because that game is out of control?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And yeah, it's interesting to see how teams come out
of the bye week and despite you know, the record,
despite the loss, despite all the ups and downs of
that game. I felt, and to your point that you
just mentioned that, the Jets like showed you, you know,
as they have all year, these moments that kind of
validated some of the preseason hype they got this summer,
and that's obviously not been a consistent thing, but they've
shown that time. So I guess my question is, Caroline,
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from a ten thousand foot view, how would you describe
what happened and the difference between the expectations, you know,
a popular preseason Super Bowl pick to the reality of
three and nine. What's been the disconnect between those two
things being what was supposed to happen or you know,
predicted to happen versus what has happened.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I think it's so hard, but really what it comes
down to is so many little moments like those.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Just they say football is a game.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Of inches, right, and they were not lying when they
said that, because there were so many times in so
many games where if a ball bounced one way, or
there was a catch that was made or a tackle
that was made, the game would have gone completely differently
and the Jets would have come out as winners instead
of losers.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Or vice versa.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
So I just think that there have been a lot
of little moments for them that haven't been what that
like the standard that they would pride themselves on, and
they'll be the first to tell you that. But I
think one thing that every player has brought up has
definitely been penalties.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
That has been something that they have.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Been trying to correct and coach Ulbrick has been emphasizing.
But I think a lot of it has just been
these little little moments that then add to that add
up and then end up making the game go not
the way that they had hoped.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That's the beauty of this league, right I think I
saw a tweet earlier the eighty percent of the league's
games this year have been within eight points, So one
score contest for you know, four out of five games
that get played, and Dolphins fans can do the exact
same thing in the Cardinals game, the Bills game, the
Colts game. There are there's one play in each of
those games you can point to and say, if that
had just gone the other way, Dolphins have three more
wins right now, But that's not the reality of it.
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At five and seven, trying to keep their playoff hopes
alive with the win over the Jets on Sunday. My
guest is Caroline Hendershot from the Jets reporter. I should say,
and I talked to coach McDaniel this week about the
connection between Rogers and DeVante Adams because they've he's you know,
coached in San Francisco for so long, he saw those
guys in the playoffs pretty much every single year, and
he really described kind of the chemistry between those two.
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But as you talk about those little moments, I'm wondering, like,
how far along has Rogers and Adams in the Jets
chapter of their story careers together come along Because as
much as they have that you know, built in synchronicity,
I kind of feel like, as you get there for
the trade deadline and you know, mid season, it's probably
tough to pick that up right away. How have you
noticed those guys this connection together and how? And then
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I guess the follow up to that would be, how
does Garrett Wilson factor into, you know, the receiving pecking
order with DeVante Adams arriving there in October, right, I.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Think you said it best, like people almost immediately assumed like, oh,
it's like.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Riding a bike.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
They're gonna pick up right where they left off in
Green Bay. But of course it takes a little bit
of time with anything to just get back to that level.
But I really feel like people saw it against the Seahawks.
They had a couple first downs that were made possible
because of that connection and that chemistry, like Rogers would
just find Avante and it would just click and he
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would catch the ball when he needed to, and there
were some really pivotal first downs that were made because
of that connection. I think the beauty of it is
that Garrett Wilson, the way that now you have to
view it as a defender is, Okay, we can't double
team both of them, so you kind of have to
pick your poison when you have both of them on
the field at the same time.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And that makes it even much that much more dangerous.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Because obviously Garrett Wilson has made insane catches in his career,
not just this year, but then you're kind of only
leaving him against one defender, and that just creates a
whole another slew of problem. So I do think that
it's only beneficial. I know people originally were trying to
kind of create a story that like, oh, he's going
to take away from all the other wide receivers on
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the team, But I don't think that that has been
the case at all. I think it's only enhanced the receivers.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's funny because you know, you see three and nine
on the record going into this game, You're like, Oh,
that should be a team that you should be able
to beat. But then you look at the roster and
it's like, I don't know, man, Like they have so
many guys that can still do it and can still
beat you in a moments.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Notice that's all it takes. To your point.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You know, one play here and there in games can
be the difference between winning and losing in this league.
So it's definitely a fun matchup for those reasons. And
I want to go back to the other side of
the BA the Jets defense here real quick for a
couple of questions, Caroline, because I was doing the math
on this, and the Dolphins have averaged one hundred and
forty yards on the ground against the Jets since McDaniel arrived,
or they find a way to get the ball off
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the edge and run the ball very successfully. And then
I got more intrigued by the matchup of this system
versus that defensive system. And I went back this year
and looked in the Niners and Texans, which is Kyle
Shanahan and Bobby Slowick two of the Shanahan offshoots or
one as the originator, and they had the two highest
rushing tolls against the Jets this year as well. So
I'm curious, how have you kind of taken or I
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guess evaluated the Jets run defense this year, and how
is it preparing to stop this Dolphins run game that
hasn't been great the last couple of weeks, but in
history has gotten lost success against the Jets run defense.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
I think the run defense has been something that the
entire defensive staff, all of the defensive players have been
emphasizing as something that they want to improve on and
really set the edges better and just contain those backs.
I think it's been something that they have emphasized, but
they also have been emphasizing their own like they want
to get the run game going for the Jets offense.
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So it's kind of twofold in that regard, But I
do think that something people were maybe saying was, Oh,
that's because CJ. Moseley isn't in there the linebacker and
a captain for the Jets, but Jamie and Sherwood has
really come into his own this year.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
He has taken that.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Role over as Mike linebacker for the Jets, and he
has been performing at a really high level and has
been getting the defense organized and doing the job to
really the highest standard in my opinion. So I think
that while they can continue to improve upon the run defense,
that it's definitely made strides throughout the season.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Sherwood's one of those guys that I remember watching Jets
back in the preseason being like, who is that guy?
Then here he is in the regular season making all
kinds of plays. So the Jets seem to always find
their off ball linebackers, that's for sure. And something else
they have plenty of two is good cornerback play, and
that's kind of the premier matchup in this game. And
how we'll close before our final question, which is how
the just can find a way to win this game
in Miami. But can you preview this Reek and Wattle
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versus Sauce and Reed and Michael Carter matchup because I'm curious.
I know that for Tyreek and Wattle, they look forward
to the challenge, you know, every year against these guys.
It's gotta be the same way for the Jess cornerbacks
against the Dolphins receivers.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I think these cornerbacks pride themselves on their level of play,
their physicality, and just what they are capable of doing
as a trio. And of course I think the nickel
cornerback always gets maybe a little overlooked. Michael Carter is
just he blows my mind. I think he is so smart,
he's so good at the position, and it's very underrated
(32:39):
in my opinion. But yeah, Sauce and DJ, that combination
I feel like has been really aggressive this year. They
I think will be the first ones too to tell
you like, there's been some plays where maybe the communication
wasn't up to their standard, or things got away from them,
or there have been some penalties, but that doesn't mean
that they're not holding themselves to the high standard continuously.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
And excited for that challenge.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
I know that it almost feels weird that the Jets
and the Dolphins haven't faced each other yet already, and
it's already Week fourteen, like I feel like usually it's
comes earlier in the season, So I feel like this
has been long awaited for both the DB's and probably
the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Wide receivers as well.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
But yeah, I will say, obviously the quarterbacks are the
big discussion. But someone who has come on to the
scene for the Jets who has been making quite a
name for himself, safety Jalen Mills. He was part of
a goal line stop last week against the Seahawks that
was really really important, and so he too has been
playing at a really high level too, so that's been
(33:43):
interesting as well.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Does Jalen have the green hair still? Yes, he does, Okay,
I remember for the Eagles he had that. Then I
think he went to the Patriots and he might have
gone with the red hair. If not mistaken, I know
he's always had his hair match the team colors.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah, No, he is fully has the green hair, and
I love it. It's a great addition to the uniforms.
So it brings out the green on the uniform quite nicely.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, he flies around and hits quite a lot. And
to your point about these matches being so late in
the year, I kind of feel like the you know,
the schedule makers were like Jets and Dolphins, the Bills
maybe kind of regresting a little bit. This could be
the division, you know, for the division down the stretch,
didn't work out that way. One team gonna play out
the string, the Dolphins hanging on to playoff hope still
with with you know, the last five games to go
and hopefully trying to find a way to win all
those games. But the Jets can put us off to
(34:26):
that right here with this game on Sunday. How do
you think that the Jets can come up with a
victory on Sunday over the Dolphins, Caroline.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
So, I think for them it really just comes down
to limiting those self inflicted wounds and those self inflicted mistakes,
like the penalties. I think if they can limit those,
that will be a big aid for them. But then
also I really think the special teams plays a really
large role. I know that obviously the Seahawks Jets game
(34:55):
was an anomaly, maybe with all of the special teams
action that happened but I I do think that because
they highlighted the special teams unit as something they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Get going, and then Knae one Wu came in and.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Really has just electrified the kick return. I think that
has played a big role. So I think that while
people might overlook that aspect of the game, I think
that could be a big factor in a Sunday's matchup
between the Dolphins and the Jets.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Looking forward to it one o'clock here from hard Rock Stadium,
Dolphins and Jets. It's one hundred and sixteen times in
the making here this arrivaly, so looking forward to the
renewal of that for the first time in twenty twenty four.
Caroline Hendershot Jets reporter at CG Hendy on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
All Right, that was a fun, fun podcast taking a
look at or using the extra days I should say
this week, to take a look at maybe the future.
And in the meantime, we are going to press forward
with Dolphins wins. Hopefully in each and every win pushes
us one step closer to run the table and getting
back into the posts. And that's the focus for now.
When we are eliminated, we'll start getting the draft prospects
and do all that stuff. I thought you guys deserved
(35:58):
a little taste of it right there on today's episode.
So yesterday optimist, today pessimist. But in the end, it's
all gonna be okay, was the general message of these
two podcasts. In the meantime, you all please be sure
to subscribe, rate, review the podcast, Go ahead and follow
me on social at Wingfield NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
The team at Miami Dolphins check out.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
My guys, Seth and Juice. They had Tim Ruddy on
the fish Tank podcast this week. You don't want to
miss that. Also the YouTube channel for Dolphins, HQ, Media
Availabilities and much much more, and last but not least,
Miami Dolphins dot com. Until next time, Fins Up, Carolin
Kamran Daddy means coming.
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