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August 19, 2025 • 37 mins
Training camp practice No. 18 was a light one, so Travis is spending some time breaking down tape of new outside linebacker Matthew Judon. Plus, what DC Anthony Weaver, OC Frank Smith, ST Coordinator Craig Auckerman said about their collective units so far, Minkah Fitzpatrick discusses the emergence of Jason Marshall Jr. inside the nickel, and a few practice notes that included a good day from that defensive backfield.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Drivetime with Travis wing Fias.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
What is up, golf fans, and welcome to the Draft
Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield. On today's show,
we have three more practices before the season gets underway
for real. We have one more game on Saturday, obviously
against the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're gonna be here on Thursday.
We also have practice tomorrow and today. We'll cover today's
practice in depth with practice notes. But we also have

(00:31):
a new addition here to the football team. Matthew Judon
is here. We'll talk about what he brings to the
team and the roster and what it means for the
edge group and the defense and everything.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Else, the ripple effect of that.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Matt Judon signing from the Baptist Hell Studios inside the
Baptist Health Training Complex.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
This is the Drift Time Podcast. Ye daffy, Sir.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Matthew Judah will go ahead and kick it off with
him here and get to the practice notes a little
bit later on. But he is a thirty three year
old edge rusher with a history of top tier per deduction.
But his last big season was twenty twenty two. He
was an exceptional scheme fit in that defense of Bill
Belichick that you recall from years of him getting pressure
and sacking to a tongue of Bai Loa as a

(01:11):
member of the New England Patriots that utilized his vast
skill set to create pass rush situations for him and
his teammates based upon that skill set, the same way
that Chop Robinson can move inside and outside. Judon possesses
that type of skill set at a different age. Maybe
a little bit slower at this stage of his career,
but that's what he has. He can play inside, he
can play outside. He was with the Ravens before the

(01:33):
Patriots where they utilized the exact same set of skills
Liam Neeson, He's not the same player he was then,
but it affords the Dolphins pass rush and versatility depth
to ensure that they don't have to change the way
they play should they lose any of these top three
edges in a game this year with Chop, Chubb and
JP and I would argue that his rundown production is far, far,

(01:56):
far superior right now to what Grace and Murphy and
Derek mclach and offer you, which you can still keep
those guys in the back end of your roster if
you choose to, I think you can now maybe move one,
maybe recoup an asset for one of those players for
a team that's looking for a more pass rush, and
get better at the position as you do so, because
I think both those guys iss run defense palette right
now is not anywhere near what Matthew Judons is, which

(02:19):
gives you a reserve option behind Chubb and Phillips right,
two guys that have missed a lot of games the
last two years, and if you lose one for a
game or two or four. I like the way Judon
can play the edge in the running game to set
up Chop Robinson to coming on third downs and kind
of spell him as a pass rusher and use him
in some different NASCAR packages as well. But if you
lose Chop, for instance, well then you can have a

(02:41):
guy that can roam and be a Willy Gabe, you know,
two point zero type of player that can mug the
a gap and snak down off the edge and rush
the quarterback that way. So I think that it's a
really nice depth piece to a group that you're banking
on to be the hallmark of your football team. Right
we know about the secondary right now, what it looks
like the Dolphins have to get pressure. They have to
be a dominant run defense and to win games. And

(03:02):
that's what they're going for here with Matthew Juddon being
the fourth player in this edge group in my opinion,
and I don't think that there's any mystery about that.
Like you know, it is gonna push one of the
two I just talked about, Murphy or mcclennon probably off
the roster. Can you get that draft pick back for him?
Can you get a player back for one of those guys?
I don't know, We'll see, but will that be you know,

(03:23):
the better rusher of those two, or will it be
the special teams ace like Quentin Bell. There's options now,
and it makes even another room that was probably already
difficult to decide on in terms of making the final
cuts a little bit harder. And that's a good thing.
That's what you want the same of year. Now, let's
again be very clear about this. To me, I watched
the tape and there's some juice in the legs that
is not there that used to be there. The twenty

(03:43):
twenty four production was down. But my question going into
my tape watch, was is this the same as Willy Gay?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Like a very good football player? That was used wrong?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And I came away from it thinking a little bit
because that was the case for Willy and New Orleans?
But was it for Matt Judah. We'll get to that
here in just one second. First, the raw data. Last
year he played six hundred and fifty five snaps for
the Falcons. He had twenty five pressures in five and
a half sacks. It was a ten percent pressure rate.
One of the lower marks of his career. Again, is
the jew still there? We'll find out. The year before

(04:14):
that he lost most of the season to a triceps injury.
One hundred and eighty four snaps, he had six run
stops and sixteen pressures. That was in four sacks, but
that was an eighteen percent pressure race. So he was
still doing it for the Patriots before he got hurt
in twenty three and the year before that was what
got him paid. I think maybe it was before that,
But twenty twenty two was eight hundred and fifty eight snaps,
thirty five run stops and sixty nine nice pressures fourteen

(04:37):
percent and fifteen and a half sacks. That twenty four
production would also suggest that maybe he was not right
coming off the triceps injury, because this guy is to
meet His best trait, aside from his lateral agility, is
the ability to long arm and hold guys at bay
and keep his chest clean, which is such a paramount
part of playing defensive line in this league. But that

(05:00):
triceps tear cost him twenty three and maybe had a
bit of an impact on the twenty four season. Pass
Rushers with a good arsenal can be productive into their
late thirties. Look at Kyle van Noy for the Ravens.
He's gone on record talking about the revitalization of his
career with the Ravens. You know, nine sacks, then twelve
and a half sacks last year in his age thirty
three and age thirty four seasons. I think Judon has
a similar skill set that Kyle van ney does and

(05:22):
is stepping into a defense that in Baltimore and Miami
is pretty similar. Now, that would be a lofty expectation,
no doubt about that, not one that I'd bestow upon Judon.
In fact, I think this is probably your fourth edge
at bestact at best is doing too much carrying there.
He is the fourth edge there's a clear line after
the first three to me, and a clear line after
Judon to me. I think it's some semblance of protection

(05:46):
to the injury issues you've incurred at this spot each
of the last two seasons. I mean, you had Bruce
Irvin and Justin Houston playing a playoff game for you.
You had Emmanuel Ogba here plays what seven hundred snaps
last year, and Judon is better than all those options
by a wide margin. And I love you, man, but
talk about lack of juice and pass rush last year,
like he was decent in the run game and there
wasn't much pass rush chops there for him. I bring

(06:08):
up Willye Gay because there's some bad effort on tape
I think with Judahon, which is obviously never great. But
I did hear Willie talk about this being pretty checked
out by week ten or so last year, and I
think you could see that being the same case for
Matt in Atlanta. The first thing I noticed off the
tape was that his wins typically come from these wide
alignments where they try to chip him, and he has
a really good ability to close and flatten after an

(06:30):
early dispatch, But otherwise he can play on the upfield,
shoulder and reset the tackle. Lots of these reps are
good rush lane integrity where he's not sacrificing an escape
patch for the quarterback as a fly by rusher. Like
I watch it, it's like, Oh, he's here to rush
and tackle Josh Allen It it makes pretty much, pretty sense,
pretty good sense to me.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
The scheme fits obvious.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
We're gonna slant our defensive tackles, whether that's Zach kg,
Jordan Phillips, a condensed Jalen Phillips, or a condensed Bradley Chubb,
and then he can loop inside off of that pick.
His upfield crossover back to the inside move is still
quick and can crash across a poorly communicated stunt pick
up from the offensive line. I think his ability to
keep our guys fresh early in the season will be helpful,

(07:09):
especially with Jalen Phillips missing a good chunk of training
camp here maybe needing some more conditioning time, and perhaps
the same with Chop who got banged up last week,
although didn't really miss any time from that. But if
you need to reduce anybody's snap count by five snaps
a game and do it for three guys, boom tough
act interacting. But there's Matt Jun't for fifteen snaps that
he can fill in for those guys, which is better
than anybody else in the roster is going to give you.

(07:30):
And all this said, I do think the legs are
not gone, but they're just not quite what they used
to be. The juice of the defensive Player of the
Year candidate he was once upon time is not there anymore,
but he is really I like the way he is
a rusher when it comes to mirror technique, Like there's
a rap against the Cowboys last year where he loops
in from a wide nine in the a gap and
the center matches and still makes him, but he keeps

(07:52):
eyes on the quarterback and can detach and go make
the plan on a scrambled drill, which is all Josh
Allen does right, force pressure off the edge, make him
step up, and here comes your leoper to kind of
close him down and make a tackle. I think the
veteran understanding of playing the edge in the running game
is plenty good enough for him to be a factor
there as well. That quality of his I mentioned with
the ability to play through the upfield shoulder also applies
directly to his run defense as well. It's the exact

(08:14):
same principle. So yeah, this is Edge four, but Edge
four this year is better than Edge two was last year,
so I'm happy from that standpoint. I want to see
this defense with actual edge rushers because it's been three
years since we had that in twenty twenty two or
the beginning of twenty twenty three, and this team.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Was really good.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And get it, I get it. We need a cornerback,
but those two are not mutually exclusive. And I will
continue to say it's only August nineteenth, and there a
lot can happen between now and the start of the
season in terms of what the roster might look like.
Let's go ahead and get our first sound bite of
the day and hear from coach Weaver on the addition
of Matthew Judon.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
He's a guy with the skill set he has these
physical presence, can win on the edge with both power
hasn't mean like power, rip move, really good hand fighter.
So everything he's shown on film is what we look
for in our edges. So he's a great compliment to
all the guys that we have and thrill to have the.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, I think he's an impact player for your football
team this year. And you know that's speaks to how
many edges I think can make an impact on your team.
And this team right now has six, five, six, seven
guys that can serve a certain role and a certain
purpose in this group. And you know that front seven,
every position group, defensive tackle, off ball, linebacker, and the edge,
they're all four, five, six deep.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And that's not by accident.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right, Let's actually go ahead and stay here in this
first segment with Coach Weaver and finish up with his
press or highlights at the end. I was thinking about
saving these for a later podcast, but I just want
to get to a few of those. Well, it was
a light practice today, so that section is super light.
But my only real takeaway from that was secondary related
and more on that in one second.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
But I thought this was cool.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I talked about the banjo coverage on the storm Duck
Jordan Colbert touchdown allowed in Detroit on the Recap podcast
and got some confirmation from Weave on that today. But
I just love this answer because, well, it's concise, it's
to the point, there's no fat, there's accountability here. Just
another great press conference answer from Coach Weaver. Let's go
ahead and throw it to the Miami Dolphins defensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
We were in zero double rats. We were trying to
make pressure. Be honest, it was poor pressure designed by me,
so it didn't hit on time. So put those corners
in the corner and safety in that particular case, I
think it was Jordan Coolber in just a very difficult situation.
It is really a banjo beater, so hats off to them.
Quarterback found it made the play. I was just testing
his metal see if you could operated under pressure, and
the pressure didn't get there.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
And zero double rats means, well, you guys know what
zero coverage means, no safety help over the top. Although
there were two safeties in the formation that kind of
snuck down to these robber roles. But you also walk
players up to the line of scrimmage and it's basically
a sim pressure where you're gonna bring guys and you'll
see a couple of defensive linemen drop out into coverage
with vision on the hook zone, which is, you know,
directly over the football five to eight yards beyond the football,

(10:51):
and Kenneth Grant was one of those hook droppers. So
it's basically a way to try to heat up the
quarterback and put defenders in the hot routes possible if
you do get the pressure breaking through. But the lines
picked it up well, like coach mentioned there, and pretty
much stomped that out from from the jump. So I
just thought that answer, though, was cool from Weave that
he kind of fell on the sword, saying it was
his you know, his bad pressure design that caused the touchdown.

(11:13):
And you heard him talk about that banjo coverage in
the backside, which I thought was, you know, one of
the few busts we've seen so far this this month,
whether it's practice or in a game. And so I
asked Chop Robinson about that after the fact, because who
doesn't want to coach that will basically, you know, fall
on the grenade for a negative play on the defense
or either side of the football for that matter. But
I asked Chop about that, and he had a good answer,
talking about Weave's ability to connect with the players and such,

(11:36):
but also how it comes down to the players making
the play themselves out on that field.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
I mean, he's just a player, coach, you know, he'd
been in a game, he played in the game, so
he kind of understands it. Even though he puts the
blame on itself. We still take accountabilit because we're the
ones that's out.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
There on the field.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
So we love we we's a good coach for that,
but we understand it. That's at the end of the day,
you know.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I gotta tell you, guys, the difference in audio level
there bothers me too. That's as high as I can
get it. So I think once the season gets here,
we'll have a better feel for how that should sound.
You guys are probably going to turn your audio way
up and down based upon who's talking in these parts
in the podcast, and it's not effective. But if I
go any higher than that, it's going to be totally
totally boosted out and it's not going to make any sense.

(12:14):
So just want to get that off my chest here.
I think the ultimate takeaway here is if both parties,
the players and the play caller take accountability, that's your
best chance at rectification, pause at finding a solution. And
that's the point I'm trying to drive home here, Like
these guys love weave, ma'am, And it's not hard to
see why Coach McDaniel talked about it and some of

(12:34):
the stuff that endeared him to weave originally, you know,
must have been a week or two ago. And within
that he talked about the collaboration of the defensive staff
and the strides they've made in that area in year two.
And I suppose my larger point here is the one
I've been harping on all off season, is that it
can be easy to point out plot holes in an
ill contrived movie script, right, And when you're talking about that,

(12:56):
that's essentially what an off season and a football team
vision and what you build towards is it's like, can
we piece together the entire script and follow that same
script that we planned out that we mapped out as
our original plan back in January at exit interviews, and
can you stay to that? Well, if it's not ironclad
and consistent, you can you can be like, hey, that
doesn't match with what you said this time around. Like

(13:17):
I remember when someone said that Dalvin Cook makes the
Dolphins a Super Bowl contender two years ago, and then
six weeks later before playing a game, so the Dolphins
have hole all over the roster, Like you got found
out because we pluked holes in your plot plan there.
But that's what desofsseason has been to me for the
Dolphins and their breasts. Is this consistent messaging to the
bigger picture. And that's what has me so excited about

(13:38):
this group this year because I feel like it's not
there's no lip service or you know, pulling the wool
over the eyes like they've They've been direct and they've
been all in that same direction, and everyone's pulling in
the same direction. I do want to come back to
coach weaver commentary a little bit later on. Let's go
ahead and hit our first break, come back and do
just a few practice notes and sprinkle in some audio
to support that.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
All of that.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Next Draft Time podcast brought to you by Auto Nation.
Not a lot today by way of practice notes, a
couple of red zone periods seven v seven and eleven
v eleven team drills. I'll get to that in one second.
Let's go ahead and hit a few of these just
practice notes or I guess news housekeeping notes. The transaction

(14:19):
has not been yet made official as of this taping,
but we did hear from Special Teams coordinator Craig Ackerman,
who addressed the media for a second time after practice.
He spoke to us before practice as well to talk
about the decision to go for with Jake Bailey and
the battle with Ryan Stonehouse some other housekeeping. Jalen Phillips
was back working today on the practice field, so was
alec Ingold and Mohammed Kamara, although both those players in

(14:42):
the red medical jerseys. Ashton Davis looks like he's ramped
up his rehab work, so it could be seeing him
hopefully sooner them later coming back to the field after
what looked like a pretty serious injury in the beginning
of training camp. We saw a bunch of guys getting
work off to the side as well, and it looks
like this large contingency of in players hopefully is coming
back here in the near future. Pharaoh Brown I thought

(15:04):
had a pretty good practice today and limited opportunities and
getting more opportunities Hayden Rouchie as well, So I thought
that was kind of an interesting thing to kind of
keep tabs on in this practice.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
And today was one of those days that.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
We went inside to start for practice, and that always
means that we get a up close look at the
offensive line for individual drills, and typically they're on the
far field on the corner of the end zone. The
exact opposite of where we sit when the media watches
practice and so you don't get a chance to watch
or hear anything and up close and personal, you get
to see your favorite coach and action and Butch Berry
and James Daniels within this portion of practice. This was

(15:41):
like my first note from training camp on day one
with Kyle Krabs on the endoor facility because it rained.
Our first day here. Half of the first practice was inside.
Was how good Jonas ofvit E Naya looked. And today
that was James Daniels to me, firing off the football,
connected in his assignments and combo blow and double teams.

(16:01):
It's been fun watching him work through where he was
back at OTAs to where he is now. He looks good, man,
he looks really good. We had him on the podcast
back in March and he talked about his process and
you can just clean the FBI, the Football IQ, the
football intelligence.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well you know his I think his position.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Coach agrees because the entire drill or the entire period
of individual, he's giving positive affirmations to James Daniels. That's
how you do it, that's how that's that's how we
teach you right there, Yeah, good, good like it's teach
shape we call it. And that's what James Daniels puts
on the tape to me when he's out there.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
There was almost nothing from a play by a play
standpoint perspective from today's practice. We had a tow a
tongue of by Lois scramble touchdown. I haven't seen that
in a while. Patrick Paul sealed the edge for him
on one of many plays that was well covered that
led to a broken, you know, off script type of play,
and he just kept on moving to his left, moving
to his left, and all of a sudden he was

(16:56):
in the end zone from ten yards out.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
So that was cool to see.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Over under on two a tongue of by low touchdown
rushes this year point five right, you're taking the over
the under on that. Aaron Shamklin caught a touchdown from
quinn yours. Jalen Wright also had a nice slashing touchdown
round from about five yards out. Both those plays where
I should say Jalen Wattle kind of touched down from
twa Tongua bay Lowa, but he also got covered up
really well, I would say, strapped even by Jack Jones

(17:19):
on a little pivot route that was shut down. They
shut down the entire play too. I had nowhere to
go after that, and that was sort of the story
of the day, if there was one from this practice,
a very light practice. And now we have two training
camp practices left, one by ourselves tomorrow, one on Thursday
with the Jacksonville Jaguars in a game, and then it's
time for the Colts, who, by the way, announced to
Daniel Jones as a starting quarterback today. And I was

(17:40):
already extremely bullish on that football game come September seventh,
way more now I think Anthony Richardson, there's lightning in
a bottle factor with Richardson, whereas Daniel Jones was like,
you know exactly what you're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
And the.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Was the calling card of the of the team last year,
I thought, with the offense struggling in two of being
in and out of the lineup, and you know, the
entire edge group being injured, and the quarnerback position being
up and down, the safeties playing some really bad football
all year, was coach Weaver's ability to find find ways
to confuse quarterbacks and good quarterbacks. But what was the
most consistent thing was the ability to confuse bad quarterbacks

(18:18):
like I mean, shoot, you got Geno Smith in Leak three,
that's a good quarterback. The Titans didn't do much until
the end when it got ugly that Patriots game, the
Colts game, seeing Richardson himself, you know, they scored sixteen
points in that game despite two Dolphins fumbles and I
think three total giveaways in that game. Kyler Murray, Josh
Allen had good games with then Matthew Stafford the Raiders
quarterback wouldn't put in that category. They got Drake May,

(18:38):
Jordan Love had a nice game, Aaron Rodgers had a
nice game.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
But then CJ.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Stroud struggled and Brock Prody struggled. So like there was
games right against good quarterbacks where that was like a
big part of the story. But all the bad quarterbacks
they faced really struggled. And Daniel Jones prove me wrong.
But right now, you're a bad quarterback. And so I
think that's going to really play into the Dolphins' ability
to keep the Colts off the scoreboard, Like less than
twenty points in this game. Can you score twenty points

(19:03):
against the Colts, You're gonna win that football game in
my opinion, and given the fact that the Colts' top
four cornerbacks have been injured for the most of training camp,
I feel pretty good about that. So that's a probably
one of my favorite games on the entire schedule this year.
Week once, that's pretty awesome to see. So that's a different,
you know, portion of that. But what I saw in
this practice today was three quarterbacks that had to either

(19:23):
just take a dead play, throw the football away, or
take a sack. And I was particularly affixed to the
coverage after the first two and it just kept looking
very well connected and solid to me. Now, that's an
area where it's tough to get open because it's condensed
and you don't have the vertical aspect of the route concepts,
but there's also a lot of rules busts that you
can have in those short spaces, and they seemed absolutely

(19:44):
dialed in on that to me. And it makes me wonder, like,
at what stage of camp do we get this this
flip switch where it's like going from you know, not
necessarily playing to our strengths and trying to test limits
and see what we can do versus actually you know,
getting yourself ready for the for the season and doing
stuff that makes you comfortable. In fact, let's go ahead

(20:05):
and play more weave audio here about Jack Jones because
this tracks with what I talked about all week in Detroit.
Go follow Aman Ross Saint Brown for the entire practice
without help and see how that goes for you. Here's
what coach said about what they've been doing with Jack
Jones this entire training camp.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Jack to me, is a juice guy, right. He's a
guy that feeds and plays well off of energy. So
when he makes the play, your your defense is going
to feed off that and the other the opponents are
going to hear it too. But the one thing I
love about Jack is is some of the things we're
asking him to do are kind of foreign to him
or really just aren't in his wheelhouse. We know what

(20:39):
he does best. We're just asking them to trust us
and trying to trying to build and add some tools
to his toolbox. But I thrilled where jack'sat and just
know he's gonna he's gonna make plays for us this season.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Thrilled with where he is and we just know he's
going to make plays this season. A little bit of
confirmation for me on my entire camp evaluation. To me,
Jack Jones looks like the best cornerback out here, and
that sounded pretty telling if he asked me. So, Yeah,
a big day for the secondary in a short amount
of time out there in practice. And I want to
conclude on this topic before we get into the cornerback

(21:12):
room playing together, or before we get to Jason Marshall
with this idea of the cornerback room playing together, and
we was asked this question about you know, the fans
and the media are all concerned about your cornerback position.
What is it that makes you able to sleep at
night about this room? And I thought his answer here
was really good.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
We don't play baseball and basketball, right, we play an
eleven man sport. So we have the utmost confidence of
those guys that go out there and do a jobs
because we see it repeatedly through daily action. But they
also have to understand they're not alone, right. We have
guys up front who are going to do work and
going to create problems for the quarterbacks, going to make
it hard to get balls to those receivers. So I
have the utmost faith in those guys just in how

(21:49):
they work and how they compete, and I think we've
seen that throughout the game so far, and even in
the joint practice when they've been facing against a tougher competition,
yet maybe not in a one on one drill, God blessed,
Like who can win that off?

Speaker 5 (22:00):
The quarterbacks is sitting there forever?

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Okay, But when we're on eleven on eleven football, those
guys have shown up and done what they we needed
them to do, and we expect them in regular season.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
As well too.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I guess my point I'm trying to ultimately drive across
to you guys right now is like, and I've done
this on the preview shows about talking about other teams,
and I was upfront about it when the Jets were
bad the last two years, despite being picked to go
to the championship by everyone on ESPN because of Aaron
Rodgers and all these name talents they brought in. But
I was like telling you about the coaching staff, telling
me about the offensive corner, the guy playing calling the place

(22:32):
is he good?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is he good?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Because if he's not, it's not gonna work. And look
what happened. Like, these coaches are so important, man. Coaches
are so important in this game. And when I hear
coach Weaver talk when I watch him deploy his defense,
when I watched what he did last year. To me,
he has unilateral trust and he should have that from you.
He's got it from me. He should have that from
you because he knows what the hell he's doing and
he's gonna be a head coach very soon this year,

(22:55):
by next year probably, like I would be surprised if
that's not the case. And so when he talks like that,
I trust him. I think that he knows what's what
he's got and what he can work with and what
he needs to do. And look, we did the same
thing last year on the interior offensive line. So I
get your apprehension. I get that you might be skeptical
about Travis State media, which if you still think that,
tell me why you think that, because you're not listening

(23:15):
to the podcast if that's the case. But I just
think it's very important to remember these guys spend hundreds
of hours a week putting all this together. And maybe
it is all coaches speak and they drop a new
cornerback in there tomorrow. I don't know, and it makes
all this irrelevant, But please just listen to the way
we describes that and how consistent he's been with that
message really all off season long. Let's go ahead and

(23:35):
pivot here and talk about a couple of things. First,
if Emila Fama had a nice dry on an outbreaking
route undercutting waddle and Tua overthrew him intentionally a throw
away ball, but that was kind of the entire period.
And Jason Marshall Junior also had a play where he
disrupted a corner route from the slot by ds Gridge,
And he's a guy you're gonna hear a lot about

(23:55):
right now because he was one of the guys that
has continued strong play from practices last week carried over
to a preseason game. And I feel like when you're
looking at these players, especially rookies, you're trying to find out,
like what can they do to help the football team.
And my buddy Kevin Dern, who does some Dolphins content
as well, longtime friend of the show and has done
podcasts with me and the pastor he was my first
podcast co host, talked about the similarities in the prototype

(24:19):
that are Jason Marshall Junior and Jalen Ramsey. Pause the
show right there, I'm not saying that He's going to
be the Hall of Fame cornerback that Jaalen Ramsey has
been in his career. But the prototype, as far as
they're build and movement skills and overall like skill set
of just athletic traits, it's similar. And it's big, Like
he's a big dude who can get in there and
disrupt and reroute. And I talked about that coming out

(24:39):
of Florida. His ability to play man coverage and get
in your face I thought was a big part of that.
I didn't think it was going to be something that
could transition into the slot.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
But for the last week, it's looked really good.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
It looked good today and he was out there with
the group of Mike Hilton and Cornell Armstrong and Ethan
Robinson with the other cornerbacks being a different group, and
he was out there with defending Tua and that first team.
So I want to play some audio here on Jason
Marshall because we've talked about him and the Minka Fitzpatrick
follow up. Let's go ahead and go first to the
Dolphins DC on Jason Marshall Junior and his chops for

(25:10):
the slot.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, I think you hit it on the head, bigger body, corner.
You know, you look at him sometimes you think, oh man,
this guy could be a linebacker, but he has the
movement skills of a dB. So I think there jason
skill set gets you an opportunity not only to play
him outside but inside as well. And then his physicality
again that we weren't really sure about until we put
him in the game. We saw him make that TfL

(25:32):
the on the nickel nickel pressure and I was like, Okay,
it's in there now, let's see. Let's see if you
continue to grow there, I honestly would sit out.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
The most was that that was his first time doing
it and he played it at as such a high level.
You know, I think Nicholas is probably one of the
hardest spots to play on the field. You're asked to do.
You're asked to do a lot, you have to see
a lot, you gotta make a lot of communication. Uh,
you gotta tackle, you gotta cover, you got you could
be in the half one played, you could be blitzing
the next play. Uh. And so there's not many positions

(25:59):
on feel that that does that. And so for a
young guy who never played it before to go in
and I think he had like two tackles for loss. Yeah,
he played great in coverage, made all the right communications,
you know what I'm saying. It was it was really
cool to see him step up in that role. And
it was also cool because in practice he made a
couple of mistakes and corrected it in the game and
played lights out. So seeing a guy take, you know,

(26:23):
the lessons that he learned and practice and apply in
the game and play at a high level was really impressive.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Quick sidebar real quick.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Really enjoying the level of like scheme talk we're getting
from coaches and players.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's right up my alley.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Let's go ahead and pause right there before I do
that though, So the Dolphins will be adding officially today.
This podcast comes out after the move's official with Matthew Judon.
They're also going to add cornerback Cameron Danceler. They will
cut Ryan Stonehouse and Tarik Black.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Updates on the roster as of four o'clock on Tuesday afternoon.
Let's go ahead and take our last break right there,
come back and finish help with some more sound bites
on the other side. Draft Time Podcast brought to you Autoation.
We could legit do an entire podcast on Anthony Weaver
Press for coverage, and I strongly encourage all of y'all
to check it out when it goes up on YouTube.

(27:11):
I mean, it was a quote bonanza, like he was
asked about Zach Steeler and a clip from his early
days that they were showing I think in a film
room session. I didn't hear the exact thing, kind of
tuned out for a little bit there, but where he
was like pass rushing and going nowhere, getting stalemated at
the line of scrimmage and some of those quote unquote
bad reps versus like his reps now where you can't
really block him. And he said, repetition is the mother

(27:33):
of all skilled and I'm like, you're damn right, it is,
except for my current golf slump because I'm trying to
swing my way through and I've had about a thousand
swings and still can't stop coming over the top of
my damn golf swing. But he is right, and that's
just kind of you know, how the whole presser was
banger after banger. Speaking of bangers, Tyrrel Dotson is a
very interesting person. Like the way he speaks, I think

(27:54):
He referenced Bruce Lee at one point, and I just
really loved hearing him talk about their mission on the
trip to the west, and then we'll have a follow
up on that about what that mission was. So he
talks about accomplishing their mission on that trip, and then
he'll describe to us what that mission was, back to
back right here here we go.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
But we needed that, you know, tends eleven days, you know,
away kind of trying to get comfortable being uncomfortable, and
I think we accomplished a mission that.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
We went there to accomplish.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
And I'm so proud of.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
All the guys how they came out and how they
endured through that, throughout that you know, eleven days.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
The mission was just become one man.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
This move as one, like Bruce Lee said, like move
as water doesn't matter, like you put water in the bottle,
becomes a water bottle. Just being adapted, like adapt to anything,
like chameleon. So it doesn't matter where you are, you
just adapt to it and you thrive in those situations
no matter where you are.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
My God, I love our linebacker room. It's just so good.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean, Bruce Lee man, Yeah, be Bruce Lee, be
like water all right, what else another weavism effort is
a choice. He talked about that and a lot more
regarding kennth Grant and the amazing hawk down clip we
saw in Detroit doing the exact same thing he did
against Penn State, hawking down the running back from behind,
that one that went viral that you saw when they
drafted him on espnnf on network, wherever you watched the

(29:09):
draft at. But here's the full sound bite of we
were talking about that play, Kenny's effort and what it
means to the football team, and the kind of impact
that type of effort can have on your entire team.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I think effort ultimately is a choice. Right, that's a
battle between you and you. Now we're expecting uncommon and
elite effort from everybody. I think it sends a particular
message to the rest of the team and opponents when
that guy is three hundred and forty and doing that.
I think he is seventeen to nine on the catapult
was what was reported. I didn't know he could move
that fast, but I think it's just a credit to

(29:39):
everything we've seen on tape, and Dolphins fans should get
excited when people with that mass are moving that way.
He impacts the game sometimes without even hitting the stat sheet.
There was a play where a guy was running speedo.
Tit End was running Speedo, got away from our Nickel
Stasi and it was a slot Nickel kind of trip.
Fell off was wide open. That ball sailed because Kenneth

(29:59):
Grant was pushing the pocket right and got a hand up.
So there's times I've seen it multiple times with Justin
Mattabek when I was in Baltimore. There's times he affected
the play without making the play. And you're gonna see
a lot of that from Keneth Grant too.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I'm just telling you guys right now, they know what
they hit on here with with Kenneth Grant. Let's go ahead,
and I've got four more soundbites. Let's go ahead and
hear from Minka Fitzpatrick on the scheme of Anthony Weaver
and how it benefits a player like him with his versatility, the.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Way that he runs his defenses. It allows me to
maximize my versatility. And I guess, because I'm doing it more,
it's gonna be a little bit more challenging, a little
bit more present. They're gonna ask me to do more
than just one job. So you know, I think his
defense in the secondary is based off of versatility, and
that's kind of the reason why they brought me here.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I mean, I loved all the moves as team made
on the front seven this offseason, but Minka was like,
that was kind of the cherry on top. If we
can get the cornerback position sorted out, the defense is
gonna be is really going to fly the show.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm excited about that.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Let's go ahead and finish up with soundbites from Craig
Ackerman and Frank Smith. Let's go ahead and hear from
coach Ackerman, who fantastic press conference, really really refreshing special
teams coordinator press conferences.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Here.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Let's go ahead and hear from him on the ability
of this team through two preseason games to jam the
gunners because it's been impressive. They've had all this room
to return kicks. I asked him about it on Tuesday morning.
Here's Coach Ackerman.

Speaker 8 (31:26):
You know, we talk about that all the time. Hey,
it starts with the guys on the outside. You know,
if we can do a great job on their gunners,
that'll be big for us because that's going to provide
our returner a bunch of room for them to get
vertical or if we run, you know, a stretch play
out to the wide side of the field. Anytime that
we can handle gunners is going to help out us
getting explosive plays. And I think they've done a really

(31:47):
good job with the technique wise and being violent.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
I think heick.

Speaker 8 (31:53):
In the Detroit game, we watched one of the players,
Storm Duck, end up throwing a guy about five six
seven yards and knocking down about that. He looked like
a bowling pin knocked down a bunch of guys. But
that being said, we got a little too aggressive on
our last one where a guy ends up being aggressive
and hitting a guy five six yards. We can't have

(32:14):
that and we will continue to coach that up. Hey,
we can be aggressive, just not reckless because we don't
can't afford penalties on special teams.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Man, there was so much in all these press conferences,
so again check out the YouTube channel for full I
believe full versions of those. Let's go ahead and finish
up here with two soundbites from Frank Smith. First, he
talked about Darren Waller and the last sentence here he says,
is the most important part to me.

Speaker 9 (32:36):
My experience with him, the mental side is of an
extreme strength of his so knowing where he needs to
be terminology that that for him is always just something
that comes very natural to him because he's used to
having to line.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Up everywhere, especially at the Raiders.

Speaker 9 (32:53):
So for him, really coming back is just making sure
that we're getting him physically ready.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Considering head the year on.

Speaker 9 (33:00):
So when it comes to him, just my experience with him,
I'm not really worried about the mental aspects for the
game because he is and probably will ever be one
of the smartest players ever coached.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
And here's Frank talking about the backup offensive tackle position
in particular the part that I wanted to run the
comment on Larry Borum. Here's Dolphins OCU Frank Smith.

Speaker 9 (33:20):
Yeah, so guys, that really, I mean, the trip on
the road was really good for us. I mean, I
think ultimately when you go on the road and you
have a kind of a slate that is you don't
know what's going to happen, Like we're going into looks,
we're going to situations that.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Aren't scripted.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
So that's where you get to learn a lot about
the guys, and especially when you are hit with things
that maybe in the season you're going to build into
part of your preparation, you're going to build into this
is a look, we don't want to do this into.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
But then yet we're going to put ourselves in that
situation so we can learn.

Speaker 9 (33:58):
So we can learn stress points protections, we can learn
stress points of runs and the case in point, you know,
the first play of the Detroit Joint practice. That's something
in the season that we would be a pressure wise
that we would make sure that we have an answer for,
because when you got six on the ball, you're gonna
put stress in your protection. So overall, the travel really

(34:20):
provided us an opportunity to go against unscottered looks and
be able to work through things. So when it came
to the tackles, I think they did a great job.
We saw growth and technique and fundamentals. Keon did I
mean in the run game he shows us power at
the point, you know, ability to reach an outside his
own game like he did a really good job. And

(34:41):
the one thing he improvises that versatility, you know, his
ability to play across the line is something that as
you guys know, we really find valuable, especially in our
second wave of guys, and you know, he had a
really good this last week at Detroit as it got
into the game. And then I think Larry's done a
great job for us. We thought in the evaluation process

(35:03):
of him and free agency, we saw a guy whose
skill set really fit kind of our system, but yet
he didn't play in that system. But you saw the
glimmers of kind of what we were looking for. And
you know, he's really doing a good job and taking
to the techniques because a lot of it is very different.
Where we're going to be aggressive and how we want

(35:23):
to set and how we want to run block, and
I think he's really taken to it, and you're seeing
him being able to challenge the edge of the pocket
and all of a sudden the run game being really
quick and able to fit up and control the point
of attack, so the backup tackles. You know, it's never
going to be perfect, especially with on line. The growth
and the process comes from learning and the hardest thing,

(35:44):
or sometimes you know from as you guys look at it,
you learn the most through failure or you learn through
tough looks because you have to learn where the stress
points of things are.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Once you learn the stress points you go.

Speaker 9 (35:58):
Oh, and then as the season comes, we can control
things with scheme and making sure that we're into the.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Looks appropriate that we want to hit. So it was
a good work for good ten days for especially the line,
especially those two guys.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
All right, there you go.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
What was supposed to be a short podcast turned into
almost a forty five minute episode. So we're gonna go
ahead and get out of here tomorrow full practice by ourselves,
last one on training camp before the Jags get here
on Thursday. We'll have coverage on both those practices, both
open to the public, so we'll have live tweets for
you guys on those in the game on Saturday, and
we're gonna have a whole new week worth of podcasts
next week outside of training camp. We are almost home

(36:32):
to the football season. In the meantime, you all please
be sure subscribe, rate, review the show, go ahead and
follow me on social at Winkle NFL. Follow the team
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Don't miss that on the team YouTube channel. You can
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Speaker 1 (36:51):
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