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July 1, 2025 • 34 mins
Travis is back with the latest on the trade sending Jalen Ramsey and Jonnu Smith to the Steelers for Minkah Fitzpatrick, including a film review on Fitzpatrick's fits in the Anthony Weaver defense. Plus, Malik Washington, Ollie Gordon and Jason Marshall Jr. join Travis.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And for the second time,
I am recutting this intro because we have some major
news into the podcast in Dolphins Land. The Dolphins have
traded Jalen Ramsey and John new Smith to the Pittsburgh
Steelers for former Dolphins first round pick Minka Fitzpatrick. We'll

(00:29):
also get a twenty twenty seven fifth round pick in
exchange for a seventh round draft pick from Miami to
Pittsburgh in twenty seven as well. We also have an
interview with Malik Washington with Ollie Gordon and Jason Marshall
that was the original podcast scheduled. We're gonna go ahead
and talk about this trade though, and then get to
those interviews from the Baptist Hill Studios inside the Baptist
Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast. Maggie Daffe, sir,

(00:53):
and once again.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
We are not in the Baptist Hill Studios.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I am at home grinding tape right now because we
interrupt your regulars programming to bring you some different content
than we were going to do this summer. I cut
this episode a while ago. But things change in a
hurry in the National Football League, and now we have
a pretty big bombshell drop on you guys again. Jalen
Ramsey and John new Smith to Pittsburgh for Minka Fitzpatrick
are twenty eighteen first round draft pick reportedly headed back

(01:18):
to where his career began. So does that mean that
Chris Greer gets credit for a hit on draft pick here?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Again? How does that work? I'm curious?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But the additional trade compensation is that fifth rounder coming
back and a seventh rounder going out to Pittsburgh. So Ramsey,
Smith and a seventh rounder Minca and a fifth rounder
coming back. Let's go ahead and sort it out this way.
So Ramsey gets a third consecutive raise despite his play
declining last year a little bit in the last couple
of years. Quite frankly, now, I firmly believe he's still
a good player. There's a reason that he's getting this

(01:46):
type of recognition across the NFL wire on a late
June trade here, Let's not get that twist him. But
we did see what happened down the stretch last year,
and I think that home game versus the Jets is
a pretty good indicator of how this began to kind
of unfold. We remember ram Z being displeased in twenty
twenty three because that defense didn't require cornerbacks to travel.

(02:06):
And the Dolphins granted Ramsey that wish in twenty twenty four,
and we was flexible to really anything that he, you know,
would make the team, would make the defense better. But
you know what else, we were best when he wasn't traveling.
And I've harped on this for just about two years now.
This defense is more about communication, pattern matching, and being
flexible in its pre snap presentation. So you let Ramsey travel,

(02:28):
he gets destroyed by Garrett Wilson in that game, and
then he wants out, and so we got to grant
him that wish. So what do we do, though, We
find a player to get back in return who plays
in the post, plays in the box, and has played
on the perimeter and in the slot.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
And what do we talk about all the damn time?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Man, The most valuable aspect of the Ramsey Fuller Cohu
trio last year was the fact that they could all
play inside and outside and give you flexible matchups that way.
And now your big Nickel package which is something I've
been harping on for a couple of years as well.
Has a box presence in ifimlafon Wu a post presence,
and as Davis and Minka as a bit of a
rover who can do both really the same thing he

(03:03):
did at Alabama for years and in Pittsburgh until they
kind of posted him in the post permanently and asked
him to make, you know, touchdown saving tackles against Derek
Henry where he would get stiff armed into oblivion.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And let's be clear on that.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
That is the downside of his game and his bad
tape the last couple of years is as a tackler
in space, really the twenty yards down the field, and
I guess behind the line of scrimmage because he doesn't
really make a lot of tackles for loss. So I
don't imagine you'll see him coming down playing the run
from depth, at least not frequently. I think you do this,
you sign a Jack Jones or Asante Sam and maybe
Rasull Douglas, though he would be a little bit more

(03:37):
pigeonholed in terms of maximizing that versatility, and all of
a sudden you have the type of secondary that we've
been clamoring for here, so we'll see what happens on
the front. And I want to watch, you know, some
more Minca tape and get back to that. Let's go
ahead and cover this real quick. The John e New loss,
it's a hole in your offense. No one's going to
tell you otherwise. He was a very productive piece as
a checkdown option who could make safe plays go for explosives.

(03:58):
And I think he's a very good player who will
play well for Pittsburgh, but from a Dolphins perspective. And
I know this will not go over well with some
the ultimate Homer on the show here, right, but I
urge you to watch John Who's inline blocking reps last
year because it was not good. Like I don't want
to use the word disaster, but it was pretty bad.
But you know who's better at it and keeps your
personnel more flexible, Nick Westbrook Akine, he inserts, he leads,

(04:20):
he does all that stuff. And you know how I
feel about Pharaoh Brown in that role. I want you
to look at it like this. You lost a decent
chunk of receiving juice in your fourth option in the offense, right,
Tyrek Waddle Hn and then John Hu. That was the
pecking order, But now the tight end position as it's
currently stacked is essentially like an extra blocker. That's Julian
Hill's game, that's Pharaoh Brown's game. And I don't think

(04:43):
there this is a player you can count on, because
the injury history just tells you otherwise. But Tanner Connor
is effectively the same type of player that Johnny was,
the high end speed and tackle breaking ability. So I
think that becomes the look of your tight end room
if not. Jalen Conyer is the undrafted rookie out of
Texas Tech into that role. Don't think of this as
losing an eighty catch player. Think of it as a
redistribution of the football and the targets more to Waddle,

(05:06):
more to h and more to write, more to Nwi,
more to Malik Washington. We have the guns to offset that,
and we got a lot better in the short yard
situation because every time you ran John Who out in
eleven personnel, you were either tipping off a passing play
or just flat out sacrificing a quality blocker who got
beat across his face from defensive ends. Really all year long,
that's just the facts. Jack a quick primary back on

(05:26):
Minca because I'm pretty excited about his tape. Remember his
first year here, he was a slot corner and a
damn good one. Then he played some safety, then he
had to run outside at wide corner for a bit
in Pittsburgh's defense. He was a bit of a rover
who did settle into that free safety post role later
in his career, which I don't think suits his skill
set to the maximum, even though he's a freaking five
time All Pro bowler. Remember when he was the star

(05:48):
at Bama. That to me is what he does best.
Slot outside safety, blitz, pattern, match play, the hook, the curl, flat,
little bit of everything. Last year it was seven hundred
and ninety two snaps in the post, two hundred and
eighteen in the box, one four in the slot. He
also had thirty out wide, so still pretty versatile, just
a lot more in the post than in years past.
He got hurt in twenty twenty three, but it was
two seventy posts, one fifty seven bocks, one forty nine slot.

(06:11):
I feel like that's kind of the alignment you look
for from him, Like it's a kind of a thirty
thirty thirty deal. This is really going to help the
middle of the field defense from Miami. The way Minka
reads combinations, can peel back to the backside and just
move with urgency and coverage as he follows the quarterback's eyes.
To me, is the best part of his game. He
was the eraser for Pittsburgh back there, gosh. The part
that I like the most about his tape is.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
The way he baits.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
It reminds me of Tua and it's fit they played
together Alabama. Like he will open his hips from a
fifteen yard hook zone alignment, like he's gonna run to
the flag the corner route and then just peel back
down and crash to go buzz the crosser and arrive
with a pretty good strike on the ballcarrier. He doesn't
play a lot of downhill football, just eight career TFLs,
but I do think there's value there as a blitzer.
And we know that Weave likes to bring his defensive

(06:54):
backs from soft presentations just seventy three pass rush reps
in his career, twelve pressures on those reps, Well, you've
got Willie Gay, Jordan Brooks. If he cater Kohu, you
don't really need another blitzer. Again, not to say he
can't do it, just hasn't done a ton of it,
but man, I love his past coverage work. I took
a clip of this rep versus the Chargers where he
aligns split back backside or split safety backside, checks off

(07:17):
a one man route distribution to his side of the
field with the cornerback getting depth, then buzzes the front
side crosser and takes away that window and just stays
on track, getting downhill to a little mesh check down
concept to the running backs and the second tight end
and makes the tackle like it's three routes. Basically the
entire play he impacts and makes the tackle right at
the catch. He's still a baller. To me, it's pretty simple.

(07:37):
We've talked about the importance of being strong down the
middle of this defense. The additions of those guys if
the Ashton Grant, Phillips, Biggers Butler, three backers and JB
and Willie Gay and Tyrell Dotson last year, Minka fits
in line with all of that. He lives between the numbers.
He plays instinctual, quick twitch football and can get hands
on footballs. This is a guy that has twenty career picks,

(07:58):
four for touchdowns, five hum Ivery's five fumbles forced, fifty
four passes defense, three first team All pros, and five
Pro Bowls. He's played fifteen or more games in five
of the last six years. The Minca addition is a really,
really good one, and getting him back for a player
that was clearly going to be gone anyways, I think
that's good business. They're gonna have to offset the loss
of Johnavi Smith. But again, further ball distribution there with

(08:20):
Reek Waddle, chan Wright, Nwi Malik, I think we're pretty
well set there.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
That's the latest on the Trailert's go ahead and get
back to your regularly with schedule programming here in my
three interviews, kicking it off here first with Dolphins wide
receiver Malik Washington. Joining me today is Dolphins wide receiver
Malik Washington. Malik, what's up man? How you doing good?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Man? I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think we had John last year, right of course,
running this back second time here? What's changed since then?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Man?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I know it's a full year.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
It feels like so much in life changes in three
hundred and sixty five days. But if you could best
describe for us how it's different this year for you
compared to last year.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
What would you say that is this?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, I mean I love gaining the experience last year,
being able to be out there as a rookie, you know,
get used to the NFL game, And so I think
this year coming in just a little bit more comfortable
with just a little bit more confident in my game
and myself and what my responsibilities are.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
So one of the things that coaches and players alike
in teammates really along with you is like kind of
your maturity and your approach to the process. Where does
that come from? When did you establish kind of your
mindset that you've brought to the NFL.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, I mean I think it starts when you're a kid.
You know, my parents did a great job raising me
in the right way and the right environment and stuff
like that, and then I was able to grow through
the people that were around me and seeing how they led,
seeing how they operated. You know, you just take bits
and pieces from those people and you formed into your own.
And then also I'm just led by Jesus Christ, and
I know he has a bigger plan for me. So

(09:36):
I try to follow that as best I can.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Very well said.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
And we have a new receivers coach this year and
coach Robert Prince. What's the early impression of him after
getting on him for a few months here.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, he's a dog man. He's a guy that's going
to get his hands dirt. Is a guy that's gonna
show up for us at each and every day. You know,
he's going to coach the whole room. He's going to
make sure everybody's taken care of. He's shown us great things,
you know, this early process, and I'm excited to go
to camp with them.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
You talk about that rookie season, you got a chance
play with multiple quarterbacks over the course of the season,
and that's kind of how this league works.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Man. It's like, you know, it's you.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
If you get through an entire season with the same roster,
you've had a pretty lucky season. So for you, what
was that like going through, you know, learning different quarterbacks
and different styles and approaches at that position.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely think it's tough because you're
at the same time, for me, I'm still learning the offense.
I'm still learning where I fit in and what my
responsibilities are for each and every week. As they may
change and then also adapt into a quarterback. But I think,
like you said, it comes with the game of football, man.
You got to adapt to the situation. And throughout the
season it's you know, you just get on the same
page with everybody. You practice with everybody, so it gets
easier and easier as we go.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
So you throughout the course of that rookie year, I
think December you kind of the numbers are going up.
It kind of seemed like after that kick return against
the Jets. Actually, let me back up real quick, because
I grew up a Dolphins family. Ly I despise the
Jets my entire life, and so when you had that
big return, that meant a lot to people like me
that love this team. Take us through that play. I
know it was a while ago, but what was that

(10:56):
moment like for you on that big kick return, they
kind of set us up for the game tire and
eventually the game winner.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
I think you go into it knowing like the implications
of a kick return right here, and of course they
don't want you to get a big return. They're trying
to kick it, you know, near out of bounds, let
it bounce and stuff, and you know, I kind of
know that going into it, so you know, you let
it get that one hop, and I knew, like in
my head, I'm gonna catch it off of this one
hop and I'm gonna see what happens and stuff. So
we're near the sideline and it's kind of just using
all the coaching, all the all the teaching that I've gotten,

(11:22):
and of course those guys up front block block their
tail off, so it was kind of easy for me
to make a one cute gig lose to then obviously
the kicker many just happened to.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Be in the way I wanted to go around him.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
I would love to score on that play, but that's
one of those plays that just happened in the moment
and I'm looking back at it, so it's so surreal
that you know, that was able to be my moment
in that in that scenario.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
That reminds me of the you ever seen the Major
League movies, the Baseball movies about the Cleveland Indians when
Jack Parkman runs over the cutcher get off the tracks,
the trains coming through their young blood. That was that
was a great moment for you and in great moment
and sinema history. So after that game. December was a
month where you and I broke out productive w production wise.
What do you think led to that? Was it just
more opportunity? Do you think maybe you were more ready

(12:05):
for the moment, Like why do you think the the
numbers kind of went up in December?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean, obviously it's the game of football, So some
guys are going to go down and then opportunities arise
for others, and so you just have to be ready
for your moment. You have to be dialed in whenever
that moment comes, because you never know when it'll come.
And so I mean I got the opportunity to start
a few a couple of games and just taking advantage
of that opportunity, you know, being reliable for the quarterback,
building or report building some trust within the within the

(12:30):
coaching staff to be wanting to get me the ball
and stuff like that. And so I'm hoping that that
can carry over into this year.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
One of the things we talked about with the different
quarterbacks was trying to learn the way they play and
earn that trust. What was important to you in terms
of like trying to get with Tua and be a
guy that you know that he knows that he can
count you, Like, how important was that and how did
you go about doing that?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:50):
I mean that's huge. She's our franchise quarterback man. He's
a great person. He does all the right things, and
so you want to be in his ear, you want
to be around him, and you want that guy in
your environment because you know he's gonna lead you the
right way. So for me, it's building that relationship with
him as best I can, whether it's on the field
off the field, having him know, like, all right, I
know Malik is gonna be where he's supposed to be

(13:10):
and I know he's gonna he's gonna make the play.
So just being that safety blanket for him, trying to
be the best weapon I can be for this team.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
And speaking of being reliable and being accountable, like part
of that is just your process, right, you're approaching how
you prepare. I asked a couple of other guys this question,
but I always love hearing from guys like yourself. What
does a week of preparation look like? For you? Don't
don't take me through like your breakfast and you know
your weight route, but like, like, what does what does
a week of prep look like for.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
You, Yeah, I think it's got to be tedious, especially
on the on the back half. But you know, you
come in Monday and that's kind of after a game.
You get that chance to watch the film and really
dial into what, you know, what you just put on tape.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I take that very seriously.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
So I take that that tape and I watch it
kind of that Monday Tuesday and.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
See, like what what what are the other guys seeing?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
So what is the other team, whether special teams are
a defense. I like to see what are other guys
seeing of me? What did I show last week that
I kept showing over and over and maybe it looks
like a tendency or different things like that. So I
really dial into my game that first half of the week,
and then as we move on, I start looking into
situational you know, situational downs. What are they like to
play on third down? How are they going to come
on first down? Last year I was a big part

(14:14):
of the blocking game, so I like to see how
are safeties, linebackers, how are they you know, destroying blocks
and stuff? What is their go to? I think you
just get a chance to see really personnel, watch what
the defense is doing. Maybe how is a corner play?
Is he more soft shoe? Is a more hardshoe? Seeing
that kind of throughout the week. So on Wednesday Thursday,
I kind of really take that into account. And then
obviously I have my coaches and stuff that are going

(14:35):
through the film. So I take that, you know, very
seriously as well. And I like to take notes. I'm
a big note taker. I'm not an iPad and iPad
pain like. I like to get a notebook and a
piece of paper and a pen and just go to
work and you know, make sure I'm keyed into everything.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
And then once we get to.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
That back half that Friday, that Saturday, That's when I'm
really keyed into, like the game plan and what, you know,
what plays are for me? What plays am I? You know,
I might get subd into, like to write out all
the plays once we get you know, we get a
little game plan sheet, write out all the plays. Make
sure I know everything, make sure I know maybe I
might be in this position, this position, really taking that
into account. And so when I'm waking up on Sunday morning,

(15:13):
there's no rush, there's no uh, there's no fog man.
I know my assignment, I know what I have to do,
and I know what the defense is going to give me.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
There's there's something about the pen connecting with the paper
that makes it stick in my brain more rather than
typing it out on a phone or even on a laptop.
Even it's there's a connection there. But yeah, that's really
interesting stuff because it seems like, you know, the the
mandatory film stuff you do is like game plan whatnot
and all the situational football, but it sounds like you
kind of have to take it upon yourself individually to

(15:39):
go get those extra little tendencies and things like that.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
I definitely think so, And I mean, I think the
biggest part of that is just watching yourself, like seeing
what you put on tape and stuff like that, because
I think we get so caught up on what the
other person is putting on tape that we forget like
we have tendencies as well.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
We're doing the same things as well.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Maybe we could be better with our first step, maybe
we're not cut the right way as much as we
think we are, because it always feels better than it
might look on tape. So you like to go back
and watch that tape and really key into yourself and.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
You get some time this time of year to really
kind of hone in on those fundamentals and technique, right
because it's not like they're getting ready for a game,
so you kind of take more time this time a
year to do that.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, I mean, this is the this is the time
of learning, you know, I think we get especially last year,
I got caught up in Ota is thinking like, oh man,
I got to prove myself this. I got to you know,
I gotta make the team. I got to make the team.
But this is really the situation of learning and learning yourself,
learning like how you could be better so that when
you get back in fall camp, when you get back
preparing for the season, you can put your best foot forward.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Last one for you here
at number six. Why the change the number six? Eighty three?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, I mean I didn't choose eighty three, so that
kind of got thrown on to me. Of course, it's
a great number in this organization, and I mean I
let the legends have what they have, So I love it.
Six for me though, I wore that in college. My
little brother wore when he used to play football as
a kid, and so you know, it's kind of always
stuck with me. It's always been a number of you know,
choice for me, and so be able to get it

(17:00):
back for my college years and you know, be back
in the six.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
It means a lot to me.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
And also being able to represent my brother when he
also played football. So I think for me, it's just
makes me feel a little slimmer, it makes me feel
a little faster, you know. Yeah, everything in between. But
you know, I just I love the number six.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
And when you come to camp, you'll see another Washington
in eighty three. That is Taj That is not Maleak,
but Leak is number six this year. So make sure
you know that when you get out here. Dolphins by
receivering b Leake Washington, appreciate your time today, man, Thank you,
thank you. There he goes hot. Change for a quick break.
Let's go ahead and get to a pair of rookies.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Next.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
One of the biggest personalities on the team already, Allie Gordon,
the Second, joins me. That's next Draft Time podcast, brought
to you by Auto Nation. Joining us today is new
Dolphins running back Allie Gordon. Ollie, what's up man?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
How you doing man?

Speaker 6 (17:45):
I'm doing good. I'm glad to be in the building
here with everybody. So, hey, what can I say? I'm
doing great.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'm excited to have the fans get to know you
here a little bit, because your personality jumps off the
way your game jumps off the tape. A cheesy comparison there,
but I'll make it on my own show. But man,
I feel like maybe you're kind of developing a little
bit of a reputation as kind of a the personality
the jokes are among the rookies. Is that an accurate
thing to say?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
You think?

Speaker 6 (18:09):
I mean, so far, I've heard from all of them
that I am the jokes here of the group, but like,
don't let it fool you, they are too. You know,
I feel like we all just compliment each other very well.
But you know, I take I take the cram on
this one.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
You do you watch like comedy or do you into
like stand up or anything type of actor comedic actor
that you have as a favorite.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
No, not really, you know.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
I mean, if I see it on TikTok, I might
sit there and watch it for a little bit, but
you know, it's just not I'm like, oh I gotta
watch this today, I gotta watch it now.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
So then like that just just a natural born joke teller, I.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Guess, Oh yeah, yes, sir, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
But also a really damn good football player.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
And so I wanted to to talk to you about
that here a little bit because I think that my
favorite thing about sports is the way it reflects real life.
Right Like in any sport you can you can tie
over the lessons you learned from that. And your college
career was was really unique in a sense that you
had that awesome junior year, right, sophomore year, sophomore year, Okay,
then the junior year was last year where and you've
talked about this and media availabilities about how it didn't

(19:02):
go with the way you wanted to, but you were
there for your teammates and everything. I'm just curious, like
what you learned from that entire experience in college and
the ups and downs, and how you're thinking might prepare
you for the professional game.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
I would say, just going through that whole process. You know,
it's just coming from sophomore to junior year. You know,
sophomore year's a year everybody dreams of, like, oh yeah,
I want this, I want everything great. But junior you know,
that's the year that people tend to like, you know,
shy away from or not talk about. And I feel
like with me being able to do that, I feel
like it's huge that, you know, I could take it
up front and be like, Okay, you know it was
on me, it was on us, you know, us as

(19:33):
a team. And I just feel like, you know, the
NFL coaches and just teams and gms and owners and
stuff like that. It shows accountability and just the fact
of just because you had a great year before and
then you don't have a good year, are you just
gonna up and leave on us or give up on
us or shut down?

Speaker 5 (19:49):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
And I just feel like, you know, for me to
show that I wouldn't do any of those actually helped
me get my foot in the door a little better
than what it would have been.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
So yeah, I think it's probably a bigger reason why
you're in this position, why the Dolph and kind of
fell in love with you a little bit. And speaking
of the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel, are you familiar with
like coach's track record of scouting running backs. Has that
come across.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Your your h Nah? Not really, Nah.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
So he's he's got a history of doing this where
he finds guys and they they've turned out to be
pretty damn good pros. And I have to imagine you
were part of that same thought from him. But what
was it like kind of talking to coach at first?
And I think I think you mentioned working out at
your pro day with him, or maybe there was some
type of connection where you and coach got to know
each other, or maybe I'm wrong on that.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I don't know, but you can tell.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
Me, you know it was. It was Honestly, it was
great meeting coach Mike. You know, the first time I
met him. I met him here on the visit. I
can't want to visit, it's my last visit. And you know,
once I got to him, just like like this is
me and coaching for him, Like you just tell the
way he acts, you know, he always cracking jougs. He
just he keeps it real with you. And that's one
thing I like, you know, and I feel like that's
huge to me that we could build a relationship and

(20:49):
keep it one hundred with each other and you know,
not lit behind, not lied to each other, you know,
and not tell each other what we want to hear,
but tell the truth. So I feel like that creates
a bigger bond than anything does.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Because that ability to of like be personable and joke
around also leads to better professional communication, right like towards Yeah, yeah,
it makes a lot of sense. And that's that's something
that you know, I think we we've heard from plenty
of guys that like, coaches got your back, right Like,
that's kind of the sense you get from him.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, by far. You know, I won't even think twice
about it.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I know you got my back for sure, no doubt
about that. How would you explain your running style? Because
watching you on tape, like, I'm like, okay, he's big
runs runs guys over. Oh there's a hurdle, Okay, I know.
So I don't know who to compare you to because
there's so much like going on there. How would you
explain your running style?

Speaker 6 (21:30):
You know, I like to just keep it a surprise,
you know, let's call it like a little toolbox honestly,
you know, like you said, i'll get down here, I'll
run you over, or I'll jump over you.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Honestly, you know, I just.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
Like to keep those little tips and chicks in the bag,
you know, Because Kay had to defend to know every
move you let them know your next move might as
well surprised.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
That's right, That's right.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
So you come down here and you play in this
this offense that you know runs a lot of outside
zone but has a lot of variety to as well.
How do you think this offense suits your skill set?

Speaker 6 (21:55):
I feel like it suits me well just because you know,
to put me in predicaments where I'm one on one
with defensive players, you know, and I feel like when
I'm one on one with somebody, it's one hundred percentle
go my way, you know, or you know it can
lead to that, honestly, or at least give me a
chance to make a play. So I just feel like
this offense is great for me, and you know, learning it,
he's been great and fun.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
So you come into a room that has some accomplished
players as well. Obviously Devon a Channa a couple of
big years. I'll raise a pro Jealen right in the
room as well. Alex Madison, what have you taken from
those guys? And how do you see like kind of
the way there? I guess for Devon's you know, Jalen
was here last year, but Devon has the big bulk
of tape for the Dolphins. When you watch him, like
what stands out about what he does that makes him

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go in this offense?

Speaker 6 (22:36):
You know, it's just his breakaway speed, honestly, and his
vision is great. Honestly, he gets downhill, makes one miss.
You know, he'll run you over too. That's the good
thing about it. You know, that's the crazy part because
you know you look at him, you're like, okay, but
he will ring you over or he'll make you miss.
So it's just just seeing that on tape, it's like, Okay.
You know he has some versatility to him, and majority
of the running backs here in this offense have versatility

(22:56):
to him.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
So I feel like that's huge.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know, three down guys, Right, if you were going
to tell Dolphins fans what they need to know about
Alli Gordon, what would that be?

Speaker 6 (23:04):
That's all getting a very excited, happy young man to
the team.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
No more, there's more. There's more.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
It's a lot more, a lot more. Just know, everything
gonna be good. We're gonna be fine all together, man.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
We're gonna have a great team chemistry, just all of
us together and everything gonna be cool.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
What's something you're looking forward to getting to do here.
I know, because you guys get here, you know may
or whatever. It just from from rookie Minnie camp. But
it's all ball all the time. Right when we talked
to Jordan and Donte, they're talking about all the Saturday
workout you guys have been having the rookie class here.
But what's something that you can't wait when you get
a little bit of time to yourself to go do
in South Florida.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
Uh, that's a great question. I might just you know,
want to hit the beach. Honestly, I ain't hit the
beach since been here. Like you said, we've been working
since we got here, So probably just kickback and relax
on the beach for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Have you been to the beach in Southford at all?
Not once?

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Actually, yeah, and like two spring breaks ago in college.
So yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Because the water is like warmer than it is outside,
it's it's a trip. Yeah, it's it's weird to get
used to, but it's it's also nice because you can
just bob out there for for hours.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
I'm cool with warm water.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
I don't like that cold water though, But yeah, I
think the beach is the beach to move might have
to get on the jet ski.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Honestly, now you're talking, now, you're talking good stuff. The
new Dolphins running back Allie Gordon all, I appreciate your
time today, man, thanks Sre, thank you, and off he goes.
As we move from the offense the defensive side of
the ball in the rookie classes, go ahead and conclude
with Jason Marshall Junior. That's next on the other side.
Draft Time Podcast brought to you by Auto Nation. What's up, Dolphins?

(24:29):
Welcome back into the Draft Time Podcast. My guest today
is Dolphins rookie cornerback Jason Marshall Junior.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Jason, what's up? How you doing it?

Speaker 7 (24:36):
Doing good? Doing good?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's good to see you in here. I know it's
early morning. We got a bunch of stuff going on today,
but just take us through your early experience here in
south Ford. It's been a couple of months now, what's
it been like for you kind of getting the feel
the lay of the land out here.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
Honestly, it's been a surreal moment, you know, just being
able to walk through, you know, the Dolphins facility, being
a kid going to a lot of Dolphins games and
you know, now I'm basically playing for the Dolphins Now
it's a real moment. And then also just being from
you know, three or five, being able to you know,
put on from my hometown.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
So walking down this hallway seeing like pats Er Tan
Sam Madison, is that kind of like does that hit
you different because you are a South Florida kid?

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (25:17):
Yes it does.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
You know, there's plenty of people that that's from South
Florida that played here. Also Jason Taylor, he's up on
the wall as well. You know, just guys that's that's
on the wall and you look up, you look at that,
and that's inspiration.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
So yeah, that was those were the guys I grew
up watching. Was like once you just talked about right there.
So it's a good company to be in. This This
team has had good defenses for a long time and
good cornerbacks for a long time, like yourself. So that's
that's obviously a big like draw for you. But I'm
curious you mentioned going to games. Is there a game
that you maybe remember above all the other ones, like
did you see a game winning touchdown or like a

(25:52):
crazy game?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Like does there one is there one that stands out
to you?

Speaker 8 (25:55):
Honestly? There's not one that stands out. Uh just you
know when you when you're kid, just going to the game.
You didn't remember anything but going to the game, you know,
just being able to cheur on with the crowd, you know,
celebrate when the team scores a touchdown, so that, you know,
that was pretty much the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I used to wear a full baseball uniform. I was,
I'm from Seattle to Seattle Mayra's games and where the
cleats and everything to the game as a kid. So
and to your point, I don't remember any of the games.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
What I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I know if you probably hit a home run most
games because he always did, But yeah, you don't remember
what happened in the game. Okay, so you are originally
from here, you go up to Gainesville, back to Miami.
What's the biggest difference between Gainsville and Miami.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
Honestly, Miami is you know, pretty much a bigger city,
totally bigger.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
Gainesville is more.

Speaker 8 (26:38):
Uh college oriented, so everything is surrounding the college. But
you know, just being back here is great, you know,
and honestly, I love Gainesville. It was a different environment.
It taught me a lot of things I had to
adapt as well. But it's a great environment. Both of
them are great environment to be in.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
College town shout out in Washington, Washington State, go coo.
So I'm with you on that in terms of college
challens versus like you know, colleges that play big towns. Right,
you went up there, right, you had offers from the
entire country, including Miami, but you wanted to get away, right,
and you wanted to go somewhere else?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Like why what went into that decision?

Speaker 8 (27:15):
Honestly, like you said, you know, just getting away Obviously,
like I just mentioned, Miami is a big city, so
there's a lot of things that go on here in Gainsville,
I felt was the perfect fit. You know, it's not
too big, not too small. And then everything, like I said,
community oriented. So you go to the store, it's a
Gator fan in there and they want to take a
picture with you. So that was that was you know,

(27:38):
the biggest thing for me.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
You get a practice against obviously some of the best
receivers in the country every single day up there. You
get to play against some on Saturdays in the SEC.
How did that experience you think prepare you for the
NFL playing against guys that you're going to see at
this level.

Speaker 8 (27:50):
It prepared me tremendously. Well, I'm actually happy that, you know,
I had the opportunity to play in the SEC. And
like they say, you know, the SEC is like this
all the smaller league. You know, everybody that plays in
the SEC is you know, top tier ready.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
You have to go in every week and be ready.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
So who is the toughest matchup you saw in college?

Speaker 8 (28:14):
I'll go with Bama my freshman year, Jamis Willimson, he
was a receiver also, him and Mechi. Those guys are
nice elite neighbors also. But like I said, you know,
the SEC, you plan a top tier receiver every week,
so you know you have to go in with your
a game. You know, those are the big names, but
it's also you know, smaller name receivers that you know

(28:37):
I had to face up every week.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Is that kind of where your physicality comes from? Because
like I love watching you play up and press, like
it's it seems like you you better go challenge those guys,
right otherwise they're gonna get on top.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
Of you right right.

Speaker 8 (28:47):
And then obviously my size, you know, just using my
size as an advantage.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, the length you have that that inside hand jam
works pretty well for it. Like watching that movie quite
a lot. What's it been like getting to know the
coaching staff here? I know obviously coach Weaver, everyone seems to,
you know, just say the best things about him.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
What's it been like getting to know him?

Speaker 8 (29:04):
Honestly, it's been great. Coach We've you know, he just
keeps it real. And not only him, but all the
other defensive coaches. You know, they just keep it real
with you. They're they're you know, enjoying my progress, enjoying
getting to know them.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
So it's been pretty good.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Have you found that one thing about coach of Rujo,
like the like, what's the what's the like the path
to his heart?

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Like how do you how do you get like, you know,
how do you get him?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Like not on your side because like obviously it's on
your side, but like, what's the what would be the
one thing that you'd be like, I'm gonna do this
for Coach Rugio and uh, he's gonna really like that.

Speaker 8 (29:36):
Just coming in every day with hot energy. You know,
he's a young guy, so just coming in with hot energy. Uh,
he's obviously going to come in with hot energy. So
just matching his energy and you know that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
What's it been like melting into that locker room, into
that cornerback room. Have you kind of made some friends already?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Like, what's it? What's the process of getting to know
the guys?

Speaker 8 (29:54):
Honestly, that wasn't hard. You know, came in uh day one,
didn't really know too many people. But as time progressed,
you know, uh, pretty much got to know everybody. We
had our little rookie thing where you know, we introduced
ourselves and things like that. So I honestly feel like
it was it was great, you know, pretty much talking

(30:16):
to everybody. Now have a relationship with everybody, so you have.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Like sing a fight song or something like that, and
the rookie the rookie deal.

Speaker 7 (30:22):
Honestly, not yet.

Speaker 8 (30:24):
We do have our rookie skit coming up, so that
would be the embarrassing part.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
But and not meeting though.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Do you do you have any experience on stage or
doing any type of acting or anything like that?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Okay, but you.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Never don't you in the mix there? What's something you've
taken away from OTAs and your your short amount of
time on the field that maybe not that you didn't
have it before. But like, what's been the biggest learning
experience so far your short amount of time.

Speaker 8 (30:50):
And honestly not taking anything for granted. That's the biggest thing,
you know, just coming in ready to work, with that mindset,
ready to work, coming in, learning to playbook, and you know,
just be on your p's and q's. You know, I
heard plenty of times that you know, the league is
basically a business, so you know, just coming in head straight,

(31:10):
you know, and about my business.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
So that's a good way to approach it, especially for
a first year player. Last one for you here, Jason Marshall,
junior Dolphins cornerback. You come home after you know, three
years in Gainesville, four years in Gainsville. Okay, family had
to have been pumped up, man when they when they
like realized that you were going to be back here
and maybe like I don't know if you like moved
your stuff back down, like what that was like? But
what was the moment like when the family is like
Jason's coming home for good?

Speaker 7 (31:33):
It was great?

Speaker 8 (31:34):
Uh, you know, I had a few family members at
Airbnb that I had, you know, during the draft, and
it was great. When I got that call from you know,
Chris and coach McDaniel.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
It was great, definitely great.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
And you know every weekend I've been back home since
you know, I've been down here. You know, just been
in time with them. Obviously being up in Gainesville for
four years. Uh, you don't really see your family like
that unless it is the season. So just you know,
spending time with them and enjoining them.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
The smile on your face as it all.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Dolphins cornerback Jason Marshall Junior, Jason, appreciate your time today, man,
and have a good rest to day.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
I appreciate it. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
And there he goes and we will follow suit. And
it is the most wonderful time of year.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
That's right, Miami Dolphins training camp right around the corner,
and you can reserve your tickets right now. The Dolphins
are back on the field for Back Together Weekend on
July twenty sixth, a Saturday, first Dolphins practice open to
the fans in the public. The Dolphins will take Sunday
off and be back on the field for a Monday
practice on the twenty eighth, as well as the twenty

(32:39):
ninth and thirtieth, all open to the fans. After a
Thursday day off on the thirty first, Miami's right back
to work for the first, second and third of August.
All those practices open to fans as well. The next
practice available to the fans August the sixth, and then
a pretty good gap there with the joint practices up
in Detroit and Chicago. Miami's back for three month more

(33:00):
practices in front of the fans here at the Baptist
Hill Training Complex August eighteenth, August twentieth, and August twenty first.
That twenty first date is a joint practice against the
Jacksonville Jaguars. So July twenty sixth, July twenty eighth, twenty ninth, thirtieth,
August first, second and third August sixth, August nineteenth, August twentieth,
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