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August 2, 2025 • 37 mins
The Dolphins were back on the field Saturday and Travis covered all the action. He breaks down how this defense is playing connected through its rush and coverage, and making life tough on the offense. Plus, more big runs, all the practice notes and commentary from Patrick Paul, Jaylen Waddle and Minkah Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
What is up, Dolphans and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfield. On today's show, Practice
number nine on a hot, muggy Saturday morning from Miami
Gardens is in the books. We've got the notes for
you guys between a pressure filled team period, the one
on one notes, the standouts from practice, the best playoff

(00:32):
camp so far for my money, and audio from the
man who made it happen in Patrick Paul as well
as Jalen Waddell. We'll also hear from Minka Fitzpatrick on
our theme of the day, how the defense can marry
their coverage and their rush to be better than some
of the parts they.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Have on defense.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
All of that and more from the Baptist Health Studios
inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
The Draft Time Podcast, kicking.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Off with some news to start thinking here and an
injury scare was kind of I thought going to be
what all of us were thinking about for the next
twenty four hours, but luckily it was immediately quelled as
Jalen Phillips exited practice and he was checking out his
leg throughout the course of the practice and he tweets
after the fact that it was just a bruise because

(01:18):
it was a leg whip that he caught, and everybody
has to chill and he'll be just fine. But the
bigger concern is the fact that Austin Jackson, who left
practice early on Friday, will reportedly miss some time. Per
Cam Wolf of the NFL Network, the hope is that
he's back for Week.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
One, says Cam.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
And I had a chance to scan Twitter for a
moment after that came down, and it's the same panic
that I thought we'd get from the Jalen Phillips injury.
And I don't really feel like weighing in and kind
of refuting what I've seen out there, but I will
say this much kind of reminds me of the exact
same commentary.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'll never forget.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Somebody tweeted like his friends were making fun of him
because the Dolphins are gonna be terrible after toront Arms
had got injured in Houston ahead of twenty three season,
and all the Dolphins did was go on to set
the points record for the first like six weeks of
a season and scored thirty six points in the opener
and two of three for almost five hundred yards in
that game with Kendall Lamb at left tackle. So the
commentary I've seen is the exact same. And I will

(02:17):
say this comes on a day where I feel like
the swing tackle favorite or a favorite among the swing
tackle competition emerged.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
More on that in a moment.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I guess I will say this because it's tough to
count on guys that miss games with this much frequency,
which I mean, it's the to me, it's the last
debate left for the quarterback. I mean, you can go
on Twitter and find people that think there's more things
wrong with the quarterback than his injury history, but you
can't help the team if you're not out there, and
right now, with Austin Jackson being down, that's a potential

(02:47):
big loss if we can't get him for even Week one.
I still do think that Week one game is I'm
not gonna call it a tune up, but I think
it's one of the easier games on the schedule for
this Dolphins team, and I hope we.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Get back out there.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
But if it's Week two against the Patriots, I'd be
okay with that as well. So Phillips Austin Jackson on
the good news side. We saw Aaron Brewer back in
practice getting some work in today. He was up and
down a little bit, and Andrew Meyer continues to work
in his place as well. But I was excited about
the prospect of seeing this front five go to work
for the first time together since OTA's and it sounds

(03:22):
like we're not going to get a chance to see
that until maybe the regular season. We'll see about you know,
Austin's injury. It's more speculation right now than anything, but
I do want to see this front five get a
chance to work together and develop that all important chemistry.
But at least for now, you'll have four guys tethered
together with Daniels Brewer, Sevity Naya, and Patrick Paul, and
we'll see who is the favorite to kind of take

(03:43):
that right tackle position. I have my eyes on one
player again. We'll come back to that. Why don't we
go ahead and lead the day with the play of
the day, which comes on the other side of the
offensive line.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I think it was the play of all of training.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Camp from big Patrick Paul and I saw it live
and like it's so difficult to gauge, Like we talked
about this right like everyone jumped on the Patrick Paul
bandwagon after watching the one on one reps because they're
very tangible.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
There's nothing else to watch.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's mono mimano, and you can see pretty clearly who
wins as long as you know what to look for.
And even then those are kind of obscure reps where
it's like, you know, it's hard to tell who one
based upon technique and what you want to do with
your hands and you know, the amount of time you
have in the angles of the quarterback and all that stuff.
It's far more tangible than watching team period and trying
to you know, extract takes from the offensive lineman and

(04:30):
those situations, because I mean, it takes me three or
four rewatches on film to get a feel for two
or three players on the offensive line watching that thing back,
so doing it live is pretty difficult. But man, Patrick Paul,
this one was tangible, and what a behemoth of a
play he had. It's one of those misdirection plays. And

(04:51):
we have all those things in the playbook, right, the
fake screens and the fake tosses, and there's that little
you know, uh not ver a little like play action
fake flip to the weak side, that they do that.
It seems like it doesn't work that often, but when
it does work, it hits big, but it also creates
a lot of negative runs. It was similar to that
where the running backs going to the right and they
do a throwback screen to the left side. It's not

(05:12):
like State secrets. It's a pretty common concept. You want
to fake one side and screen the ball back to
the other side. And it got the defense. They overplayed
the original misdirection. They fall step one, you know, take
one false step, one false move, I'll break you down,
and the ball comes back over to Wattle. And because
of those false steps, it creates these really good blocking
angles for Patrick Paul and Jonas ofvit Naya out in

(05:35):
space and that's all that's there besides green Grass and
Kendall Sheffield and Mika Fitzpatrick. And Patrick Paul is the
one out in front of Wattle who did a fantastic
job staying behind the blocks. How often do you see
guys just like sprint out in front of their blockers
and waste them. That's not what Jalen did here. And
big Pat Paul gets his big Pat Paul pause, Pat
Paul pause. I think it might be trademarked on Kendall

(05:59):
Sheffield and shoves him out of the play entirely.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
He was like that meme, b D D dat to day,
d D dat to day. You guys what I'm talking about? Right?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
He threw him all the way over to Durral and
then he gets two pieces on Minca Fitzpatrick and takes
him out of the play and Minka kind of took
exception to it, and Pat was like, no, I'm gonna
celebrate with my teammates. I just made the playoff freaking
training camp. And it's Jalen Waddle on a Norwegian cruise
liner cruising into the end zone.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's not the one that had the poop cruise?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Right?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Who was the was it Carnival cruise had the poop cruise?
I don't cruises, man, you know, yeah, what's the deal
with cruises?

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Like?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Who wants to go sit on a boat with ten
thousand strangers and take a bath and a giant pool
of water that's you know, got twenty other.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
People per cubic foot. I'm off the rails now. I
don't like cruises. Don't like him.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Let's go ahead and here from Jalen Wattle on the
play of trading camp so far, I make myself laugh.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
At least it was good. It was good, It was
it was good Man Paul, great Black. He's a having
tremendous camp. So any time I got a big guy
like that in front of me, it definitely slows down defenders.
You know, you're getting behind him is a shield.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Go out there and make a play.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
And then from mister Patrick Paul's clause himself, Pat Paul
on that big play on the outside, hitting those key blocks.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Honestly, it was just fun, like getting down in space,
you know, working on the timing of it. But then
once you're out there, the play goes. I mean you're
just trying to take anything out, clear the path, clear
the way, and I mean then there's all touchdown, so
can't be can't comply.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
And man, he just continues to look the part. I'm
not gonna tell you that I've seen every one on
one rep through all of training camp, because they do
receivers and DB's at the same time, and you try
to be comprehensive. But I just hadn't really seen him
lost or lose even a rep of all the ones
I've seen. This includes going against Chubb and JP and Chop,
and Chop has a batting average of I don't know,

(07:51):
like me and Little League eight hundred or so. Seth
and Juice were like that one in these one on
one periods, and all of his losses have come against.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Big fifty two.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
But I saw Pat Lows today and it was a
rep that informed me a little bit on Bradley Chubb,
more so than like negating what Patrick Paul has done.
Because Chubb is twenty eight years old, which wouldn't you
think that Chubb was like thirty eight years old.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
It just feels like he's been in the league for
twenty years. At this point.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
He's coming off a second ACL surgery and he's actually
twenty months removed from that, so perhaps the explosion does
come back for him more so than a guy who's,
you know, nine months off of surgery. But I don't
think it's unfair to wonder what he looks like from
a movement and explosion standpoint. And on this rep, he
fires off the snap to Paul's outside post. He swipes

(08:34):
the hands inside and cross his face and beats Pat
back to the inside post. It was the most explosive
upfield move and firing back inside with that quick twitch
I've seen from him, and to me, that answers the
biggest question about Bradley Chubb coming back off that knee injury,
because as good as I think both JP and Chubb
have been out there, where they've really shined is setting

(08:54):
hard edges and folding up gaps in the running game,
making life easy on those linebackers to fit those runs,
scrape around the outside or fit inside. And we saw
Phillips flash some of the pass rush yesterday with that
sack on Austin Jackson, and now Bradley's out here showing
this stuff. It's all good signs, especially when you can
insert a third guy into the mix like Chop Robinson
and either give him a blow and have him come

(09:15):
into the game and take those guys off, or put
them all out there together and rush Chop over you know,
mugged up looks, or loop him back inside on some stunts,
and these guys can just wreck shop on third down
throughout the course of the game because of the rundown
defense they have off the edge with sack and with
KG inside. Now, Pat did bounce back in a big
way with the rep we talked about, but I thought
he had two wins against Chopp in the one on

(09:36):
one period as well, matching his speed around the yark
And you guys know how crazy that is if you
know anything about Chop Robinson's game. Like a three hundred
and twenty seven pound man at that height to be
able to get around the corner and kind of drop
the pads but keep your feet moving to keep up
with his speed, it's really impressive to cut off that
speed rush. Pat talked about what the one on one
drills have been like for him so far, and then

(09:57):
we have a follo up question for him about how
that translates the team period. First though, the one on
ones from Patrick Paul m.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Coach really well, you know my antark here and especially
when I've got here, and one on ones is always
my favorite thing because I mean it's a way to
work your craft in the pastor setting, and then just
a way to compete. So every rep I'm competing, I
can't let anyone get past me. That's the goal.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
And how do those translate into the team period. Here's
Patrick Paul.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Honestly is just working your craft. I mean if you
can stop someone in one on ones, I mean you
could definitely stop from the team period. So it's just
really working different sets and different angles, different techniques with
your hands. That's where you really get to try it
without all that pressure of like, oh yeah, I'm in
a team settings.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think the word honestly because I cut it out
of the second question or second answer. There is kind
of Patrick Paul's clutch. It's like crush. I should say
it's better than right, honestly, I just whatever. If that's
his only crush, I'm good with it. Let's go ahead
and stay on the offensive line there. Jonah Savit I
Naya and Kenneth Grant continue to have these really fun
battles that is like, it's like not geo, I just

(10:54):
need like David Attenborough to narrate it.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
On the stretches of the attic, these two Grizzly Bears
meet once again, awoken from the slumber.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Looking for food.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Food is scarce, and so a battle ensues between Kenneth
Grunt and Jonah Savity Naya.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Is that pretty good? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I would say Jonah kind of won the first week
in terms of these matchups, and then KG bounce back
and has gotten even better. The better of those two matchups,
I should say, but I just see two NFL starters
every time I watch these two Grizzly Bears thrown pause.
When Jonah with Jonah, he executed a move that you
typically only see from like longtime vets, the old snatch

(11:33):
and shrap move. That's a move that is most commonly
used to combat bull rushes, which is, you know, put
your head down and try to run through a guy's
chest or speed to power where you threaten the speed
move and then make a last second, you know, dart
across the face and you generate all that speed back
into power to try to run through the guy. If
a guy is flying out over his pads and out
of control, he's kind of counting on your mass to

(11:54):
even out his weight and the distribution of his weight
upon contact. But you watch some of the best like
Deon Dawkins up in Buffalo is really good at this,
or the goat of the snatching Trap, Trent Williams. They
snatch the punch, which is like your initial you know,
hand throw, and this can be like a one arm
move like a long arm as well, and they do
that by swatting the hands from top to down, so

(12:15):
you kind of take your hands around the outside, pull
up top, and then pull the hands down and it
removes their ability to balance out that weight distribution. And
then they'll go down because the balance has wiped out
in a heartbeat and they have nothing to lean on.
It's like taking out you know, if someone's leaning up
against the wall, like a chair or something, you kick
the chair out, they're gonna fall over quickly. So I
saw Jonah pull that move on Brinito Jones today, which

(12:36):
I didn't know Jonah had that in his bag. I
was pretty impressed by that. And KG did beat Jonah
with a quick move upfield on the outside post. And
I just continue to marvel at the way that Kenneth
Grant moves out there outcast at best. I like the
way he moves Ben. It's it's where that rare upside
with the traits comes from, right. We talked about this
in the podcast earlier this week about like and I've

(12:59):
been talking to about the twenty twenty four draft class
where Kyle's like, I kind of have my worst draft
that year because I was, you know, low on some
guys that are playing well and high on some guys
that haven't. And one of those players has been Mohammed Kamara,
who you know is experiencing some challenges with his lack
of length, I think in practice, and it's the answer

(13:19):
to the question, how does a guy with that kind
of sack production in college make it to the fifth round?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's it's the traits.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
It's what you can project when you go up against
a Patrick Paul because you're not facing you know, Travis
Wingfield at WSU. I wasn't playing tackle at WSU, But
I'm trying to make a point here like it's you're
facing grown ass men that have the requisite traits that
you know you have to be able to beat and
match as well. And you guys heard me rave all
draft process about Kenneth grantch traits and how he has

(13:46):
the most upside of the class and he if he
realizes that potential, He's got real dexter lawrence size and
movement combination to the point that where I thought he was,
you know, a higher upside than his his teammate and
classmate and Mason Graham who went fifth overall to the
c Eveland Browns. And I think we're seeing more of
that onion get peeled back each day here at practice.
There was a drill in the individual portion where the

(14:07):
defensive line was doing their classic stack peak shed, You
stack the you lock out the blocking sled, you peek
around the corner, you shed the block, and you get
into the gap and you fill your gap to make
a play in the running game. And they had an
extra player that was standing off to the side of
these guys hitting the bags and they had the manual
bag and they would kind of throw these punches into

(14:27):
the hips which simulates these combo blocks where you have
to absorb that hit to your side while you're engaged
to the man in front of you and drop the
anchor to be able to hold the point of attack
and two gap and allow your linebackers to play clean
and free and scrape off of your stack of that block.
Does that make sense? And so they're teaching how to
position your body to properly absorb this side blow from

(14:48):
that combination block without detaching from the man in front
of you and just the way that KG And then
Jordan Phillips too, who did you guys see the video
where we asked the players like do you ever wish
you were at athletic And they were like, what it's
a what kind of question is that Jordan Phillips popped
the shirt off in that video? Go ahead and look
at that thing and tell me you've ever seen a
three hundred and twenty pounds man that video, I should

(15:10):
say it looks like that.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
It is incredible.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
He is first off the bus material there and for
him to move the way he does and kind of
throw the hips to the side and contort their body
with the power they play at is a marvel to watch.
These guys just do not make sense. The pad level,
the handstrike, the wiggle, all of that looks the part
to me. And for KG to just continue to translate
this stuff over to team. It so often happens where

(15:35):
you get this young guy that flashes and has all
this production in college. Then they get here and the
power of the game can really overwhelm them. But for
Kenneth Grant, like he's protected from that because he's just
bigger than you like, and he could play at three
point forty. I don't think he's playing that high right now,
but he just has that power and strength and it's
really really tough to move him off the football. And

(15:56):
then in Jordan's case, the wrestling background and the balance
that comes from that, or the foundation that he's built
from being a sturdy bodybuilder, you know, for his entire life.
I feel like giving these two guys, you know, as
balls of clay to Austin Clark is a really safe bet,
as he has just churned out productive player after productive
player here and now he's got two extremely talented players

(16:16):
to do it with. And that's without mentioning Zeke Biggers,
who's flashing a big way back to it real quick here.
Matthew Butler had a nice day. He had a quick
win on Daniel Brunskill in the one on ones and
had a pressure later on team period. He did get
poked in the eye, but was back out there a
few reps later. I think Keon Smith spoiler alert, this
is my early emerging swing tackle pick right now had

(16:37):
one of the best days of anybody out there, and
it was cool to see him take one on ones
into the team period. Crabs and I have had this
discussion about how he's remade his body from year one
to now, and you see it in how light his
feet are, kind of the typewriter feet working like we've
talked about with Laramie Tunzel not saying he's that good,
but the feet are quick. He glides into his pass
sets and then today especially I just love the way

(16:57):
his hands and feet are hardwired together. His ability to
use his length and extension to strike guys and slow
the initial surge makes sinking into his set even easier
for him because there's less force being applied to him.
And he had a nice win against Quintin Bell in
that period and team. He had a really nice reach
block on a three technique which is to his right
and the play's moving to the right, so he has

(17:17):
to basically cut across a gap and a half to
cut this guy off, and he throws that long arm
out there and gets extension and gets contact and then
can start control on the rep and he turns his
man back out of the play. I think Keon Smith
is one of the main guys to watch this preseason,
especially now with his Austin Jackson news. I keep reading
about the offensive line depth and I don't know where
it's coming from. Again, I think this is true of

(17:39):
the thing I talked about with Patrick Paul, where I
didn't hear his name from other tweets and reports until
the one on ones happened the tangible stuff, because I
think that between Keon Smith and Andrew Meyer, those guys
have had really good camps. We're gonna see on Daniel Brunskill.
His Titans tape and Niner's tape especially is a lot
better than what I've seen so far out here. But
I think he'll get there because it takes time to

(17:59):
learn in this system. And I think if you're you know,
I saw a tweet that said that Chris Greer Whift
on the depth of the offensive line like brother, butch
Berry is still in his freaking one oh one class
right now, Like, let's give him some chance to develop
these guys and give him a chance to learn the
freaking system.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
And then with Leam Miikenberg.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
But to me, that's four guys that could play, you know,
as far as backups, and I think Larry Boram's a
work in progress there too. I'll say I do feel
good about the three, like three of the backups and
two pending, and I think that we'll get there by
the end of camp and it'll be just fine.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Let's go ahead and.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Hit pause right there a very long first segment here
on the show and come back in segment two and
get into our top theme of the day, the marriage
of front and coverage and the way this defense showed
its makeup through the scheme of Anthony Weaver via Minka
Fitzpatrick's press conference. That's next Draft Time podcast, brought to
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(18:48):
had David Attenborough impression. Can you tell that I'm on
antibiotics now with my science and infection that took me
out for about a month there, Start and turn the
corner here a little bit. I think as practice number
nine is in the books, and I think it's safe
to say that we are in the dog days of Summer.
And I read that sentence and my add brain says, hey,
seeing the boys of summer by the ataris I'm not

(19:11):
gonna do it, But that's what I'm thinking. I mean, well,
the dog days of summer is that in reference to
like July when there's no other sports going on besides baseball,
Because it kind of feels like the dog is a
training camp, are right before that first week of the
preseason game.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
That's where we are right now.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
But the MLB trade deadline, like I don't know, I'm
so jacked on the Mariners right now. I think that's
why there's so many baseball references, because the Mariners have
like a really good team right now.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I think they might win the American.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
League this year, and if they get second place in
the regular season, I have to drink soup out of
a shoe, per my old tweet. Let's go ahead and
talk about practice number nine. Right now, we are just
three practices away until the trip to Chicago and we
get to play against somebody else. I cannot wait for that,
and I can't wait to watch that quarterback try to
deal with our defensive scheme. I don't think it'll go
well for him. But the real feel temperature today in

(20:02):
Miami Gardens was one hundred and one degrees and it
was a sharp, crisp two hours out on that grass
and real quick. You know, the tempo or the like
level of intensity of practice has been a conversational topic
around here for a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Right now, I get it.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
And they did a good job making it to the
season without a lot of major injuries in recent years,
and maybe they're getting more this year. But I'll tell
you guys, right now, these practices are longer there's been
more intensity in them. There's been more purpose to them,
and more reps and more strain and more situations that
I think replicate what you're gonna get in the season.
And I think that's what you have to do. I mean,

(20:41):
I think you're gonna have to to find a way
to grule through that and just take the lumps as
they come. And I think we're seeing that because, you know,
Brian Baldinger talked about how he felt the ball the
practice was very sharp and in that hit with Cam
Wolf and Tom Pellisero, and he made the point that
when you watch too a play, the football is rarely
on the ground. We've had nine practices, which I don't

(21:03):
know how many reps you get, like thirty or forty
reps in a practice, give or take.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I could be fifty, could be.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Twenty five, whatever it is, and you're talking about like
three hundred throws at this point. He hasn't turned the
damn ball over. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's
pretty damn good.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
And I was just thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
In the crispness of practice, it feels like one side
of the ball doesn't dominate ever, like the entire practice
like we had the defense get after it today, but
the offense responded and they had plenty of their own
wins too, And there were some reps where you're like, okay,
potential sack there, but the play continues and we get
this good throw against good coverage down the field or
whatever it might be. It's not just these constant blown

(21:41):
coverages or protections or drop balls or bad throws. Like
the plays are getting made because of good play, not
because of mistakes, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
And look at the Jets beat today.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Aaron Glenn stopped practice because the offense had like twelve
penalties and justin fields was like two for ten. So
that hasn't happened out here. And these are teams in
different stages of their program. So it's a tough comparison,
but I think you can compare yourself to previous practices,
and to me, it looks way sharper than it has
in the previous years. I would say that today was
probably the least productive day for TUA so far in

(22:12):
training camp, which is kind of funny to say, because
nine practices, no turnovers. He had some touchdown throws and
a handful of chunk gains, but I don't have a
lot more on Tua, I guess for the posterity of
his performance today.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Some notes on his plays.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
The first two plays were I thought like pretty much
quintessential Tua, where he drilled the first one to Delan
Waddle for fifteen yards and Aaron Brewer has a nice
little down block kind of creating some space off a
play action where he widens the middle of the field
and gives Tua a good line of sight to drive
the fastball. And it made me curious because Tua just
keeps on finding Wattle, especially on these third downs at practice.

(22:48):
And we did that deep dive on Waddle's third down
numbers back in the offseason and how effective he is
compared to the rest of the league. He was second
in third down success rate as a receiver and third
in man coverage win rate and how those banked reps
play into that. And since you've been throwing together since
literally twenty seventeen, together when you're eighteen to nineteen years old,

(23:09):
is there a point where that chemistry is kind of
capped and you can't get any more comfortable. Here's Waddle
on that exact topic.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
No, it's definitely a room to grow, But we do
got a lot of bank ribs. We you know, hang
out all the time off the field, so it's either
have a number of me and me and two have
you have been playing together so long, like it's like
another second nature thing.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
But he's always room to grow.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
But we do got a lot of bank ribs.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
And then his second throw of practice was a little
play action bootleg out to the right where he's moving
across the strength of his throwing arm, and he drives
one to Malik Washington who's coming along with him down
the field about ten yards and he puts the football
right on the chest. He also engineered a two minute
scoring drive, or a drive in a two minute scenario,
I should say. And I thought the drive was indicative

(23:56):
of where Tua's mastery is and why his game is
so misconstrued by the football GYNESCENTI because none of the
throws were going to make a highlight, but the defense
was complex and gave him these different presentations and different
rotations and blitzes and coverage matching on the back of
those blitzes, and Tua just calmly found quick completions. He

(24:16):
had three to Tanner Connor two to devon eight chan
of one to Gilen Waddle and he moved the ball
forty yards and fifty seconds for a Jason Sanders field goal.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
So that's effective.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
And then you compare that to Zach Wilson who checks
into the game, and look, Zach has shown to me
exponential growth in practices here from his Jets tape and
even from OTA's up until now, Like there's been growth there.
And I don't really care about what he looks like today.
I care about the final product come September, because there's

(24:45):
twenty more practices they have to go through, and that's
you're not trying to get there all today. You're trying to,
you know, stack days and build confidence and build concepts
and wrinkles off of those concepts. And I think that
he is building towards that. But in the same period,
it was a disaster. The defense completely fooled him and
the offense and it looked like have you guys seen

(25:05):
that video where it's like a high school game, and
like one of the teams has like grown men and
the other team has like guys that are built like me,
and the one kid keeps lining up and getting chucked
into outer space.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
It kind of looked like that.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
It was two sacks and a ball that Zach had
to turf as the pressure collapsed around him and his
feet got stuck. If you ever want to see how
a quarterback's like processing and how comfortable they are, just
watch the feet. The commer they usually are, the more
comfortable they are. And we'll get to how Tua got
this a little bit later on as well. But you
could tell that they just got him with those three
looks and he was completely perplexed. There was a cover

(25:39):
zero rep where the heat was there and he had
no chance whatsoever. And they rush and buzz your hot outlets,
and if you double clutch, you're gonna be sacked. If
you try to throw it into one of those spots,
you're asking for a turnover. So it looked more like
jets Zach, But I think there's a little bit of
that to it, but probably more of a tip of
the cap to Anthony Weaver and how this defense blwed.

(26:00):
And I think that you can get these looks to
heat up quarterbacks that you know, and you sign a
guy like Jack Jones, you trade for a guy like
Minka Fitzpatrick, who have nine career defensive touchdowns comby them
between the two of them. It's because you've got these
springy athletes who prep in a way that put themselves
in positions to capitalize on your tendencies and make those
game changing plays. And even outside of that period, Zach

(26:23):
got some heat, and I liked his solution more so
than running backwards or you know, taking a sack or
trying to force a short throw where he would just
basically chuck it down the field and give whichever wide
receiver was down there a fifty to fifty chance to
make a catch. But none of those balls got completed
because it's it's not fifty to fifty, it's more like
ninety ten. But it told me about this defense man.

(26:43):
Those guys storm ducks, pure physicality on the outside, how
Mike Hilton plays. I think it would behoove us as
fans to step away from this thought of like Madden
lineup and depth chart in the individual and what they
rank in terms of how I perceive their skills and
think about what they're trying to accomplish as a team
and how they scheme things up as a team and
who they protect within the scheme, and viewing the acquisitions

(27:06):
through that lens of what coach Weaver wants, because we
heard from Mika Fitzpatrick today and I asked him like,
what about this defense stands out from a pressure menu standpoint,
When you can get to all these different you know,
concepts and blitz packages with the coverage off the backside
of it, how does that suit your skill set?

Speaker 3 (27:23):
And how do you think it looks so far? You know,
nine days in the camp.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
The fact that he sends pressure in so many different forms.
Some places they send two or two or three the
same guys. Here it could be literally anybody, and it
all comes from a similar look. So I think offenses
are on lining up and they see us, they know
that it could come from any direction, and I think

(27:46):
that gives them a little bit of anks and has
them play a little bit more on their huge.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Are the quarterbacks kind of communicating to you guys, how
difficult that's been for them to pick.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Up out here, most so more so with disguises that
that we throw at them. Let's so that's that's so uh,
you know, the offensive line and stuff like that. So
more so more so.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
About let's stick with Minca one more time. I told
Chris Perkins after practice, like that was a great question.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Great question. He's like, I don't get told that enough.
I was like, yeah, man, got you.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
But he asked him this question about a lot of
times in practice we see you with the edge rushers
or in special teams. You're doing stuff with other guys
and trying to sharpen your skills in different areas from
the safety group. Where does that start and where is
the payoff do you think on the field for that
was the question? Here's Minka Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Honestly, it started for me when I was in college
because in college I played every single position on the
back end and cocluding linebacker sometimes and that involves setting,
setting or taking on a guard or a tackle in
the box. Sometimes that means I'm rushing off the airs
and I got to work against the tackle. And I'm
not doing those things every single player every day. But

(28:50):
you know, when I'm called to do those things, I
want to be able to do them at a high
level and not heavy excuse of on the dB I
shouldn't win this, you know what I'm saying. Every everything
I do, I want to do at a high So
when there's five minutes every day working with the some
elite dgeresses. I'm gonna do that, he as.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, and again, I've made this point so many times.
We saw it last year. Right, You're down Phillips and
Chubb Chopp is getting his feet wet as a rookie.
You lost Steeler for two games. You're you're getting the
most out Klay as Cambell you possibly can. Both those
guys are spending more time outside as heavy ends when
the you know that position was wiped out, and it
gets you deep into a defensive tackle rotation that didn't

(29:26):
have the bodies to sustain that type of depth and rotation.
You lose David Long, you lose Anthony Walker, you get
t dot in here mid season, Kendall Fullard miss his games,
Jalen Ramsey's up and down. The safety play is what
it was. All of that in your fourth and defense
and all agree with the sentiment that the corner roster
isn't as impressive on paper, But every other single position

(29:46):
to me looks better than it.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Was last year.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Are the edges better, yeah, Are the defensive tackles better, yeah,
Are the linebackers better?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah? The safety is by a mile.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
And I also think it's vastly more in with how
this defense wants to play.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I mean, it was all day.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
You know, we're not going to report on exach schemes
in this podcast because that's against the rules, but Minka said,
you know what Minka said was on tape last year.
You're seeing Chop and Chubb and JP and Zach and
KG get their wins one on ones. Willie Gay is
getting in there, Jordan Brooks, Terrel Dotson had one today.
Mike Hilton had a sack today. I've seen Kendall Sheffield
and Ethan Bonner get quarterback pressures. The way they can
win one on ones, call their fire zones off that

(30:26):
call man with rush games, the way they can bring
defensive backs or linebackers, whoever the hell it might be.
They might bring me out of the damn stands. It's
a vast it's a lot to deal with, and it's how
you can perplex these quarterbacks. I think it showed up
so far in practice. That's the part that makes me
most excited about Anthony Weaver. I think getting Weave back
this year was the single best move that this team
could have made.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I talked to Mike about that.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
McDaniel back at the Combine in Indy and he said
something similar. And of course we want to see Weave
get his chance, and I think it's just a matter
of time before he does. But for now, I cannot
wait to watch him coach a defense I think is
vastly more in line with how he wants to call
this year than it was a year ago. We'll go
ahead and get back into the defensive notes, But first,
quinn Ewers had himself a really good day and he

(31:07):
didn't have the two minute period that Tua and Zach did.
They cut it after that, but he did see some
of the same pressure packages, not all, and he got
his share of my feet are stuck right here as
we saw with Tua and Zach. But it's not hard
to see why fans are pretty excited about they've seen
so far in training camp.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
He's got that big arm.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
He can drop the arm, slot down and whip that
thing like a shortstop. It's actually the first thing I
asked him back at his first media availability. You played baseball,
didn't you which position? But it was shortstop?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Sure was.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
He had this little throwback where he rolls to his
left and then turns back and chucks the ball forty
yards down the field, across the field to the other
side of the hash marks to Tann O'Connor for a
big completion. He also had another one where he had
to clear the hips and drop the arm slot down,
moving to his left and flip that thing out there
to Theio Wize coming across the formation on an over route,
and he hits that one as well. He's been pretty impressive,

(31:54):
but I think his best throw of the day was
playing in rhythm off the top of the drop, hitch
up and rip a fast ball to Mona Ray Baldwin
who put a wick and move on the safety to
go in for six from about twenty five yards out.
So good stuff all around, Iron sharpening iron. As they say,
let's go ahead and pause and get to the rest
of the individual notes here in segment three Lawn Podcast Today,
we're gonna get through all of it drive Time brought

(32:15):
to you by Auto Nation. We are what thirty two
plus minutes into the show. We're at the second break,
so we gotta pick it up here. I want to
get into the individual defensive players, but that seg ran long,
so we'll cover it here. Willie Gay just continues to
go off He did get his pick six today, but
it was a drop by Tanner Connor that popped straight

(32:36):
up into the air. Big day for Connor, but a
bad mistake here. But that's fitting because I've lost count
of it. It is at least five and I'm not
even exaggerating when I say that, at least five times
where Willy Gay has played the curl flat and jumped
in front of a pass in the five to seven
yard range and cut it off and could have made
a pick six, but he drops it like four of
the times.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
But he keeps dropping him and he had one today.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
He also had a sack, a tackle for loss, and
a pass breakup. So I'll go with him for the
Orange Jersey tomorrow. We're trying to make it three straight
with Jordan Brooks and Jalen Phillips last couple of days.
I think Patrick Paul is my secondary pick. He's been
there a lot. I feel like one is coming for him.
But Willie Gay and Patrick Paul are going to get
one soon. We'll go with both those guys for tomorrow.
Gay was nice today, man, I had chopped with another sack.

(33:17):
There hasn't been a day where Chopp didn't get a
second team period. That's nine days for counting. And we
know about his speed, but I've seen him really develop
that speed to power, which is we talked about that earlier.
And I think that with his ability to cross face
and win inside, like you're talking about a three way
go and that's a lot to process against a pass
rusher who is essentially sitting back and reaching to one
hundred miles an hour in his fastball for like five

(33:40):
innings straight. And isn't it crazy how many pitchers can
throw one hundred miles an hour now and consistently. Again, Sorry,
my mentors are really good, and I got a lot
of baseball on the mind lately. I thought kJ Britt
was awesome today. He was reading the flow of the
running game and just like his tape, there's no false steps.
He wins to the spot and then tease up his
shot with good technique to square up a ball carrier
and put a good clean lick on them or slip

(34:00):
a block and create a chance for somebody else in
the running game. Tyrell Dowson had a sack where the
offense sent this man an exit motion that we've seen before.
They bump it, which is where you kind of slide
guys over to account for the gaps in the running
game that are changed, and also how you cover it
on the backside. And it looked like an alert to
a blitz where it's like, Okay, now all of a sudden,
my man's not here or I don't have a gap

(34:21):
to fit in the running game, so I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go after the quarterback and blitz and it
got Terrell Dotson into the B gap for a free run,
and it was so smooth and crisp, like it's the
same thing you know as two was game not making
sense to a casual football fan, like he doesn't throw
it super hard, he's not running for forty yard touchdowns
like Lamar Jackson does, so why the hell is he good?
It's because he's smart and you see things before you do.

(34:43):
That's kind of where this defense can take off. And
it's why every year I think there's surprises and letdowns
in the league for predictions, because coaching matters and people
just grade the rosters on paper.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
And I think this matters for this defense.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
And I keep going back to Weaves comments about as
long as we play connected, we're gonna play good defense
no matter who is out, and I believe him. He's
we're just gonna play guys that play connected. And that's
probably why Kendall Sheffield keeps getting run and keeps on
performing in practice because he and Storm Duck I thought
had really good days and largely playing to that concept
of pressure is getting there where you have to reroute

(35:15):
and jump their first moves, and Duck has been making
a habit of this. I saw a lot of that
from Sheffield today as well. Jack Jones had a good
day again. I think his one on one period was
you know, I saw that me and Isaiah Small's had
dissenting opinions on his.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
One on one period.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I don't care if you give up catches in that,
but I want to see how you move and how
you react and how you challenge guys.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I think it does a great job of that.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
And I did not see him get targeted but once
in coverage in team period, and that was an incomplete pass.
Grayson Murphy had a nice win inside on Keon Smith.
I thought that was one of Keon's worst reps of
the day for an otherwise good day for a quarterback.
Hit maybe a sack. Jordan Colbert had a sack on
a blitz. I think I mentioned Mike hilton sack earlier,
and I think that just about covers the defense because

(35:56):
it wasn't all defense. Alexander Madison had another big run
where he pressed play side and cut it back and
got on the track at full acceleration because of this
backside collapse of Faroll.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Brown and Ryan Hayes.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Farrell Brown keeps on, you know, doing stuff with this
why tight end making moves, and I'm gonna say he
got hawked after a gain of forty five yards down
to the ten yard line. And I feel like Ollie
Gordon's vision and patience and the way he explodes once
he kind of lets the play develop and stays end
tight to the formation and condenses the defense to the
inflection point. And then once he hits the inflection point,

(36:27):
like he can open it up and win the speed
or win the race with speed.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I should say.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I think that both he and Madison have had really
good camps and are kind of making it interesting in
that running back room where Jalen Wright has two fumbles
in the last two days. In terms of the touches
and the roles these guys want to fulfill here in
this offense. A lot of these runs came because of
combination blocks. Farrell Brown again as advertised as a y
tight end, he gets edged ceiling blocks every single day.
James Daniels had some good second level attachments where if

(36:54):
he doesn't get those, these are tough blocks, it's a
three yard run, but he does hit him and they
become ten yard runs. I thought Larry Borum had some
nice blocks out in space, and I think it was
a vintage alec ingold day where he had two blocks
outside the numbers to spring big a Chan runs for explosives.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
So that's about it. Long podcast.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I'm going to get out of here and hopefully get
some more antibiotics in me and field even better for tomorrow.
We're on the field on Sunday. I'm an the recap
pod and notebook for you guys, then off on Monday.
Back at it again Tuesday. But until all of them,
you all please be sure to subscribe, rate review the show,
follow me on social at Winkle NFL, the team at
Miami Dolphins. Check out the YouTube channel for Dolphins, HQ

(37:32):
media availabilities, drivetime content and so much more. And last
button not least Miami Dolphins dot com Until next time.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Fin's up. Caroline Cameron and Willow Daddy

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Come on.
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