July 30, 2025 • 39 mins
We were on the field for our seventh practice and we heard from the Head Coach, Mike McDaniel and the quarterback, Tua Tagovailoa. Travis is talking about Tua’s progression, the cornerback position and all the practice notes from Wednesday’s work.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is up, dollphans, and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
it was day seven out on the grass we heard
from coach and Tua. So I have a whole segment
dedicated to QB one and what has been my least
amount of coverage of the quarterback in my six years
of doing this here at training camp, and I'll explain
to you why I've done that as well, Plus a
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really in depth look at the cornerbacks today after the
cater Coohu news that he will miss the entire season,
what it might look like in his absence. That and
all the practice notes from the Baptist Health studios inside
the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast.
My Daffy first, So I know I'm supposed to play
the hits off the top, but I wanted to start
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with just a little bit of a confession to you guys.
I suppose and I think this is more common on
Twitter that it has been in the past, and I've often,
you know, kind of contemplated the value of full transparency
on the podcast with regards to being critical and whether
or not my boss is like that or not, because
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the people that listen to the podcast have been You're
not the ones coming at me on social for you know,
cutting a paycheck from the team, And I keep getting
these replies and it's just not true. You daily ever,
you know diehards know that we've talked about the weaknesses
and the shortcomings last year and the bad can't practices
and all that stuff, like it's transparency on the show,
(01:36):
and yet I still.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Get those replies.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And if you're going to reply to me on social
and this is not applying to any of you, because again,
these people aren't listening to the podcast, I don't think
if the reply is like, I don't envy the job.
You have to spend this thing positive this season, you're
catching a block because one that's not factually true.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's a major.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Discredit to who I am, what I do and my
skills as a broadcaster, as a football you'vev and everything
across the board, and you're lying about the content.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
We're going to talk about some things on this show
that haven't gone well.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So I just want to put that out there up
off the top here, full transparency, critical stuff in the podcast.
You guys are here with me, get it. I'm not
gonna tweet about it, but I'll put it on the
show for you guys. Just wanted to get that across
off the top right away. So speaking of that, the
day began with some terrible news and first things first,
I want to play Coach McDaniel's comments on Cater COOHU
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because it's something that I echo, and I'll just start
with my experience first off the top of getting to
know Cater, who always has time for me when I
see him around the building. I got a chance to
watch a rookie mini camp practice with him a couple
of years ago, and that was really cool to just
kind of pick his brain on football and he asked
me how my day's going, asked me about my life,
and then just the respect I have for him and
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how he goes about his business as a player, because
he is all business.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
There's no frill with his game.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And for a guy that came from Texas A and
m commerce grinded his way onto the squad as a
UDFA put himself in position to potentially be a cornerback
one this year and you know, held down that third
spot with two really proven cornerbacks last year going into
a contract year. I am just heartbroken for the guy
that he will miss the entire season going on injury reserve.
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Here is coach McDaniel on what that meant to him
as a person that quite fancies Cater Koho himself.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Cater and I go back, and I've seen him come
into the league with nothing promised and earn earn his
spot within this team. And then this year in particular,
you know, I saw him ascend to a different level,
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trying to take the reins of his career and get
his game to an even higher level.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You know. So for for that and the timing of it, you.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Know, it was I've we were I was crushed until
I talked to Cater, And honestly, Cater made me feel
a little bit better about where he was at simply
by his mindset.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
You know, you don't you don't know the whys.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
All the time when things happen, and you know, I
get concerned for guys that get stuck in that in
that world of uh, you know, fixation of the opportunity lost.
Cater's mindset triggered like that where he was like, yeah,
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this is tough but I guarantee him to come back better.
That is the only way to approach really the game
of football and life and and quite honestly, you know,
I think it's one one thing that you know, talking
to the team and talking to Cater, you you're you're
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risking a ton of errors if you try to pretend
to know what you try to pretend to attach a
negative or a positive to to something that happens that catches.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You by surprise.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Down the road, Cater may look at this as the
best thing that ever happened. So he's focused on trying
to create that scenario one day at a time with
his teammate support.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And Ashton Davis's injury news was better than expected. McDaniel
said that Ashton is not a season ending injury. Here's
what he said verbatim, the non contact you're always prepared
for the worst. However, we were fortunate that it wasn't
the worst. That being said, it will take the next
couple of days to see how long that will be,
but for sure it wasn't the thing that keeps you
out for the whole season. So that's the you know,
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another injury here in this defensive backfield or you know
a couple of them. Rather seems to be the place
where all of the camp injuries are stacking up at
this point. And I always try to remind fans of
how things relate to the other thirty one teams. I
know a lot of football fans just watch their team
and so you don't have the you know, the context
across the rest of the league. But it just seems
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like right now, you know, it's been especially brutal this year,
like Christian Gonzalez and Maxwell Harriston both suffered what might
be significant injuries that keep them out for several weeks.
At Bill's and Pat's camp in our own division, it
looks like a moment there that Justin Field is going
to miss the entire year, But it was just like
a toe that he came back from the next day,
which was weird, but it's the unfortunate cost of doing
business for this sport. Catered to IR, We lost Ardi
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Burns to IR earlier, Ashton Davis going to miss some time.
B Jay Adams is down right now, Jason Matrie back in,
OTA's Dante Trader down right now. I think it's good
that we got Jack and Mike Hilton in here. As
quick as we did, so they can get their feet
wet in the system. And I imagine those guys are
going to play White a bit this year if they're healthy,
as I think they're two of the better players in
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that room right now. And I think Jack Jones was
the most talented cornerback on the roster when he signed here,
even when Cater was up for the three plays that
he played when Jack Jones was out there. And let
me make this perfectly clear, the Cater injury puts a
damper on my excitement that I've given you guys for
the last seven days. At least, you know now, I
think there's a chance that we could make a move,
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and we'll see what happens there over the coming days
and weeks. But as constructed, he was sort of the
lynchpin of that position, and that was going to make
the rest of it easier to deal with in terms
of a possible unproven playing across from him and Jack
Jones or Mike Hilton, whoever it might be that fills
in with a Storm Duck or a you know, Cam
Smith or Ethan Bonner, which we'll get to all those
guys here in just one second, but you know Cater
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and Jack as a two man corner group that I
thought was going to be your primary base with a
lot of big nickel packages.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And three safeties. That had me excited.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I didn't think it was a roster hole at all
with those two, but right now I think it is,
and we're going to have to find someone, whether it's
internal or the out coming in to fulfill that. Can
you be the Buffalo Bills in twenty twenty one or
two I think it was twenty two when Christian Benford
came from nowhere to be a really good, contributing rookie cornerback.
You kind of have to have that right now unless
you go elsewhere. Also, I saw one tweet that asked
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about who the slot might be and did not acknowledge
Mike Hilton as the answer for that, because that guy
has only played in the slot for the eight years
of his career for Good football team. So I have
no idea how you do not know that, but I digress.
And just a reminder of how much Cater was playing
on the perimeter last year. Also, I'm not sure how
we don't know this, but I digress once again, But
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I think that I don't think it was or is
as simple as just find a slot cornerback to replace Cater,
because Cater did a lot more than that. I think
you're trying to identify roles in particular, and one of
the themes of practice today was the way the zone
coverages work without going into full detail and breaking, you know,
reporting rules. There's a good synergy with those guys, and
I think a lot of that stems from good work
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from the safeties in line backers to help you know,
ease that and also a lot of confidence and trust
in the front and all the different things they can
do to create pressure to you know, allow you to
play confident for two and three seconds at a time.
I still contend that the best way to play defense
in today's NFL, which is vastly different. Right, it's not
really post safety anymore. It's like split safety. You have
to be able to do both things and come down
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and cover all that stuff, but it's to be multiple
in how you rush and play good zone coverage in
the back of that and match that front and coverage
together with one hundred percent execution within your rules and
not have busts and have the ability to throw your
man coverage in there as a bit of a changeup.
I mean, the league is on balance seventy five twenty
five in favor of zone coverage these days, give or take.
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Only one team last year played more man coverage than
zone and that was a team that was you know,
had twenty two injuries on defense in the Detroit Lions,
and they gave up a ton of points, especially down
the stretch. As far as the potential outside help, as
Sante Samuel is the best fit, I mean that that
seems pretty obvious to me, but we'll see if they,
you know, wind up circling back to him and probably
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actually the only one that tracks as a starter.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Of course, his.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Dad's comments would complicate things there, I think a little bit,
and that would make it to me, you know, if
he does, if he is an option for you, that
would be all three of your top cornerbacks in my opinion,
signing mid camp, which speaks to how the position was
previous and I'm not not naive to the fact that
it wasn't up to par. And I know I'm hyped
for this team and I still am. I still think
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this team has a lot of good ahead of it,
but this has stalled some of the ceiling of the
expectation just a little bit, because it's a problem and
I'm not going to act like it's not. My positive
outlook for this season still goes back to the offense
and the fact that I think they can score thirty
points a game again, then it won't really matter all
that much until right you get into the games that
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matter the most, which I know that's a big point
of contention for Dolphins fans and it should be in
any team in the NFL. The middle of January, when
you go to Buffalo and case in Baltimore, that's you know,
deep playoff runs. If we get to that point, then
I think, I think you guys will be happy.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I don't know, I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It feels like most of Dolphins twitters unhappy these days,
but you know, I think one playoff win and then
a trip to Casey or Buffalo in round two, I
think I think fans would take that right now. And
by that, like you know, at that point of the year,
there's injuries all over the place, so maybe you run
into the Chiefs with a banged up offensive line. Like
I don't know, but that's getting way ahead of the plot.
It just sucks. It sucks for us, it sucks for
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cater Someone stepped the f up, right, That's what it's
gonna have to be.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Cam.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Let's go show me something, Isaiah Johnson, Let's show me
that physical skill set and make it match what you
do on the field. Make a big leap. Ethan Bonner,
come on, let's go baby. Jason Marshall, let's go time.
You're a rookie, but we have lots of rookies that
are gonna contribute this year. I'm not speaking faith personally
to this, but that's what we need. It's tough, it sucks,
but that's the NFL, so figure it out. And this
had me watching the corners even closer today to try
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to figure out who that might be. I think the
name that has me most intrigued with his progression is
white Lightning his slate of skills and what I saw
on the field today with Ethan Bonner, first the notes,
he had two pass breakups and one on ones. He's
been trending that way for a little bit now, which
if you've ever been to practice, one on ones are
dominated by the wide receivers. It's a drill that favors
them in a big way, so PBUs and picks are
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pretty rare, but he carried it over to team work.
One rep, there's a blitz that gets it on Zach Wilson.
Immediately kJ Britt pulls up in front of Zach Wilson
for a would be sack, but the rep continues and
like Ethan doesn't know that the rep is over, so
he keeps covering his guy and he's manned up on
Tarik Black from the exposition. The boundary part of the
field pressed up and man coverage undercuts it and has
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a pick in his hands but can't squeeze the interception.
And Mike McDaniel was right behind the play in the
defensive backfield and he gets very excited about the rep.
He's slapping his play sheet on the grass, which I
have come to learn this year is what he does
when he's fired up, and that it was a dap
up with Ethan after the fact, which confirms my thought
I think. And then Cater his specialty was coming down
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and playing the run on the screen game right, and
Bonnard did that on a play against Hm where he
fits into the force defender and smacks him and put
him on his back in the backfield. So here's what
has me pondering the possibility of Bonner stepping up this year.
He did get the bump he was with the ones
to kick off practice. Do you guys remember that first
preseason game last year where he got targeted like six
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times and gave up one really long catch I think
it was, and like another short one and it kind
of ruined his box score. But on balance on tape,
the reps was like, Hey, he got asked a lot
right here to go play the X to the boundary
and one on one coverage without safety help, and I
thought he handled it pretty well. Remember the KC playoff
game in the freezing cold when he had some good
stuff on tape there, Like, we have so many guys
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that can cover the slot here, you know, whether it's
the safeties or Mike Hilton or you know whoever your
choice might be Jack Jones inside, Which just makes the
aforementioned tweet funniest hell to me, because like, how do
you not have a clue on how slot positions work? Pullback, Travis,
pull it back, And we've been over this, Minka Iffy,
the linebackers, Trader mc morris, I think they all have
you know, interior impact to their games. But I think
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you have this collection of guys that can be more
strict perimeter guys like I think the Isaiah Johnson's game
is that. I think Storm Ducks game is that. I
think Cam smith game, if it's gonna click, is that.
But I don't like the prospect of any of those
guys inside right now. I think Ethan is best outside,
but I do think his skill set is translatable to
the inside if he can, you know, muster all the
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information that comes from that. And I bring up that
preseason game last year because he was in the boundary
to that short side of the field where you play
that face up press up coverage to the X receiver
and it's a lot of man coverage over there, but
you can also play bill and cloud from there. You
can call your hybrid coverages from there. I think that's
I think that's Ethan's skill set because he's kind of
got that cater in him. The downhill, put my face
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in the fan mindset, and this is all building to
a crescendo. He has the long speed, which none of
that rest of that room does except for Cam Smith.
But there's also like instincts and feel that have to
happen there too, But you have to be able to
recover if you get beat off the line with long
speed in that role, and what do we hear all
the time?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Like Ethan Barr's the fastest guy the team.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I think that way that he and Jack can play
from press to zone and man recovery on the verticals
are the best in the room of my opinion. Speaking
of Jack Jones, he had a rep today where he
almost assisted Willy Gay on a near pick, but Willy
Gay dropped it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Again.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
He's got like double hands on footballs of anybody else
on defense, but he's got like four drop picks two.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You're up in the line of scrimmage, you can boild
to a zone drop and man, the way these guys
are communicating like so real quick if you're not familiar,
Like zone match is the new wave of football, and
it's basically zone where you play to your alignment pre
snap and then based on how the routes unfold post snap,
you have roles to adhere to, whether it's carrying a
vertical stem and passing off on his inside stem or
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you go with the first one and you're the one
to go last outside. It's this new age version of
like zone match, which is like man match, and old
zone was just playing one part of the field, so
it's a different version of zone coverage. But man, if
you just play connected that way, you can get the
job done, you know, as a collective. And I think
that's where Jack shines with his ability to play man
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on top of that, but I think Bonner can do
it too. I think Mike Hilton's the best slot on
the team, and we've got varied skills for matchup based
defense on the back end as they try to identify
the pecking order of who can stay within those rules.
We got off the rails there a little bit, but
I think that's kind of how you view the position
group today. And I think a lot's gonna change from
now until Week one in terms of what it looks
like because they got to find some stuff out back there.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
With Jack, he was in coverage on a long ball
to d Skridge that you saw on social media.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Buy now. That's kind of his tape A lot of good.
I love his tape.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I think he's physically a fantastic player, but he takes
some chances and he took the bait on a double
move and got torched for a touchdown. Ethan Robbinson a
really nice pass breakup and a one on one rep
against Erica Azukama. I've been impressed by Jason Marshall and
his man reps. He's shown that both in one on
ones and in team drills as well. Cam Smith's best
rep a camp to me was a play coming down
off the edge to put a shoulder into a running
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back in the running game. I thought Storm Duck had
a really nice day today. His length, in physicality and
his smarts, that's part of what kind of what tracks
the most with him to me.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
He really gets what we trying to do.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
He also had a rap where he fell into a
he sunk into the deep cloud on an over route
to Gilen Waddle and he races this window on a
two a throw to him. So that tracked with what
coach said, which was this a good way to put
a bow on this segment about that cornerback group.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
We have multiple variances of players.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
That we're working through that and then so you have
a starting point and you see how the progression goes.
Right now, I'm good with where we're at if if
there was a situation in a week where I didn't
feel that we're good, you know, Chris and I would
talk and we'd get something done there. But we feel
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good with where where our plan is and and the
various people were given opportunities to in a in a
very competitive defensive backfield.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
All right, let's go ahead and take our first break,
a deep first segment there, come back and talk a
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seven practices in to twenty twenty five and Tua tongue
of Bai Loa has not turned the ball over. He
hasn't even thrown a pass that should have been picked
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off Willie Gay style. If this were PFF, Tua's turnover
worthy play rate is zero on what ballparking two hundred
and fifty throws.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I don't know what the hell it is.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let's go ahead and hear from Mike McDaniel, who has
asked about this on Wednesday morning.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
All right, so you have an evolution of all right,
you're how can he be elite at timing in with
the primary and then then you're going through the Okay,
well you're developing the offense by all right, well, what
if the primary is not there, how do we get
completions in progressions? And that was kind of a focus
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last year.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
We're progressions and.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Having a non premiere play calls and still being able
to get a ball to an eligible and advance in
a productive fashion. I think what you're seeing now is
a culmination of that where he's you know, he's taking
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it's his team, he knows it, and each and every
day he is trying to dictate the terms by how
he does his job. He has a he's kind of
found his his specific cadence, not actual cadence, but his
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cadence for how he stays focused, locked in while also
being himself. His intensity each and every day has been
very consistent, which players are responding to. He has a
and with the because of that, I think the ownership
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and conviction of how he's playing the position is probably
responsible for for those for not having any interceptions. He's
not being passive, he's being aggressive, but I think you know,
the culmination of deliberate practice over over the you know,
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hours and hours and hours of work. He's his ownership
of the game and and his position within the offense
I think is evident every time we step out.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
On the field.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So we got to it today also when I wanted
to ask him about that and kind of follow ups
and say, like, you know, coach was talking about your
mastery of the offense and getting guys in the right
positions and and all of that stuff, like how do
you view that from your perspective?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Here's Tua.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, continuing to work on the things that I feel
I'm good at, but also trying to trying to get
better and trying to still master a lot of the
concepts in which they'll give me conflict with different coverages
or one look at a coverage pre snap to post snap.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
So it's still trying to work on that.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And I wanted to play my voice in the follow
up there, but you couldn't really hear it. So I
asked him, like, do you sometimes you know, ask Weave
or McDaniel to get an extra look or maybe change
the way the defense is constructed to you know, help
you get the looks that you need to really emphasize
the things you want to work on.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
How does that communication work here is to on that?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, No, I talked to the players more than I
talk to the coaches about certain things, and then if
I really do need something back again, then I'll go
mention that to Mike. I have conversations with Weave about
certain looks that they do, reasons as to why they
do it, and then why I think that's very helpful
for my game. So we go about it in that sense,
but just coming out not knowing what they're going to do,
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you know, I think that's the way to do it
in training camp, so that as you go out with
what your soundbites are, your footwork, what you should be
thinking of. If you go out there and you're thinking
about the right stuff, then we'll see it on film.
And if you're not, you know that too, will see
it on film, and you'll fear that as well.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I'm in practice.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I just thought that was a really cool perspective in
terms of, well, how practice goes and two what later
talk about you know, more about the process and how
he views these practices, which again you know, pointing to
the sign. The sign being the JJ Watt tweet about
practice stats and all of this just got me to
observe too a closer throughout the day in practice, and
normally you know, shoot, you guys know this with me,
Like I used to do full segments onto every other
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day on the show here, But we've hit this point
to me now where it's just not necessary. I don't
need to tell you about all the short throws that
were on time and on the money. That's the expectation,
that's the norm. So let's go ahead and evaluate other
spots of the roster that we don't know about yet.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I will detail the.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You know, the well thought out, finer details, the explosiveness
or the explosives rather, that's the that's like the stuff
that's worth talking about. But we just don't have to
assess these practices in a way that's pontificating if he's
the franchise quarterback like we did, you know, maybe four
or five years ago. So it got me watching him
closer throughout practice at various points when he's not even
under center, and just kind of how he approaches his
(23:08):
day speaking about those details in the lock in that
you know, coach talked about, and I watched him, you know,
taking reps as he deems necessary, making guys run routes
again if it's not to his standard, kicking the quarterback
out and saying I'm taking that rep again. You know,
during handoff drills, he would spend time with each of
the backs drilling additional detail. After the reps. These aren't
things to celebrate. I don't think it's the expectation, but
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I just wanted to listen out there for you year six,
second year, second contract, all that stuff, all the individual
accolades and numbers he's posted.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You expect this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So it's not like pom palm waving, rather just providing
the checklist that he's going through as a leader and
his development as the man here. You know, we go
as one goes, right, no matter what happens elsewhere. This
team is in games win Number one's under center, and
so let's see how he executes the daily monotony. Like
that's how it is for me. I have to, you know,
get ready in the morning, come in here and do
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the same thing every day for a training camp, and
then go home and get the kids ready for dinner
and for baths and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's a long process.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Also between periods, you know, reps, you'll see guys like
dancing and laughing and doing things together. Things you should
do during a football practice, you know, have fun. But
Tua is with BEV talking football. I see him like
motioning certain things in his technique and fundamentals all that stuff.
I see him go over to Dan Reno and talk
about talk with him for a little bit. Right before
a team period starts, they tap up and he goes
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out there and after a period where two went four
for four three chunk plays, he goes over to BEV
and gets more instruction. And this continued during the water
break and special teams period. Every second on the grass
is an opportunity to get better, and I think Tua
really kind of leans into that. To come back to
the process over results idea and the JJ Watt tweet,
I want to play this audio on tuists perspective on
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what camp should look like for him.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
I'm not thinking too much about it if I throw
an interception or if I don't throw an interception. In camp,
you just want to see how consistent you can be
with the plays that you're giving and a lot of
the times it's I'm just gonna try to see what
this is going to look like and what this is
going to play like, and if you want to try
to see if this fits in this window on a
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certain pass you try to see it. I mean we
did that today on one of the one of the
first plays maybe of camp today. So you know, I'm
not really basing it off of what the result is
or isn't. For myself in this training camp, I have
about two or three things, max, that I have for
myself that I'm focusing on for each practice that I
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go out there, and I can tell you, like two
of the three things I did not do really well today.
So that's what I'm saying, Like, it's not result oriented,
you know, because I know for myself what I wanted
to get done and I wasn't able to get that
done today.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That's for his practice notes. I mean, he was pretty
self critical for what he thought he did today. But
he had a period where he did have those four
consecutive plays for chunks and it was deep into the
progression finding Westbrook Akine on two shots over the middle.
Two of those were jammed in between the one and
the eight on his journey with zero point zero yards
of separation, like legitimately the cornerback is in contact with
Nick at the catch point. One of those was Cornell
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Armstrong on top of Nick and the ball had to
be fit through a pringles can and somehow Tua did it.
And on that note, with Nwi, I've talked a lot
about his work as a blocker and how I think
his tape in those areas is better than a lot
of the tight end reps we had last year on
tape with eighty one with number nine. But Nwi caught
two balls today that were exactly like John new catches
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were last year. And I watched that game against the
Patriots over the weekend, you know, as I'm like between
the Mayor's game and the PGA tournament, and he's like
posting up on these release valve routes where Reek and
Wattle take the top of the coverage off and create
space in the middle, and he just catches it and
gets up. Feel like, that's what I saw from Westbrook
a keen a today and that had me pretty encouraged.
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He also had a quarterback's best friend a screen that
scored from like fifty yards out. Maybe Wattle was in
the Orange Jersey catches a now throw kind of coming
back to the quarterback on a tunnel screen where nw
I and Pharaoh Brown lead the charge and have these
great angles for blocks down the field. Wattle runs right
through the mess untouched twenty five yards and if he
can make Minca mess an open space, which I tend
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to think he can, it's a fifty yard touchdown. So
Tua was sharp to the naked eye. He told us
those things he has to focus on, and you heard
it there at the end of the presser. But I
like my quarterback not being satisfied. And I'm pretty bullish
on Tua playing the best ball of his career this year.
But that's not a surprise because this guy, he gets
better every single year. Before our last break, a fun
moment at the end of practice, I'm sure you saw
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on my social Tua came over during his media or
before his media and pulled up right next to me,
and he jokingly said under his breath, like, how's too
we doing a break?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
How's tunguing about? Low looking?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And so I asked Quintin Bell, Hey, how's Tua look
so far at training camp?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Oos. I think he's having the great camp throwing dots.
You know, he's making tough throw that's that's even tougher
for us to pick off man, you know, So some
of the some of the throw. He's Megan, it is unbelievable,
you know what I mean. We're we got guys in repositions,
but the balls is a better, better ball, you know,
good defense, better offense man. So super Powder oos his
growth man. We need him this year.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So that's my dog last break right there.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Come back and do the rest of the practice notes,
and I have two soundbites from coach to close things up.
That's all next Draft Time podcast brought to you by
an Nation talk to talked a little bit of Waddle earlier,
and he continues to just beat all kinds of coverage
on all kinds of routes, from all kinds of alignments.
He's been the best playmaker him and Devon h and
all camp long. Tyreek was absent today with an excused
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absence for personal reasons, so it was cool to see
Wattle just continue to roll without Tyreek on the other side.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Out there.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Let's make a quick rip of the practice notes because
I have two more long McDaniel sound bites and we're
getting short on time already.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
D S.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Gridge made the play of the day that you saw
on social a long touchdown from Zach Wilson. He's had
a very nice camp so far in the back end
of that receiver's room. Man the preseason, I'm excited to
watch it for that and for many reasons with all
the young talent and these quarterbacks, and lots of reasons
to watch the exhibition season. This year, Taj Washington had
the biggest separation route in the one on ones. He's
had an impressive camp man. His feel for when to
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get back to the football and how to win contested
catches at his size impresses me.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I've defended Julian Hill more than most, I think.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But it's the way he fights the football is getting
it's hard to watch sometimes. He had another drop today
on the easiest ball to catch, a little flat route
out in this open space. He fought one on a
little hookup route yesterday too, and that's on the game tape. Like,
catching the ball is an absolute struggle and it doesn't
really matter how good you can be as a blocker.
And he's got to be better in that area too.
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If you're ineligible and you're not catching the football or
a threat to catch the ball, it's a big disadvantage
for the offense. We have to find a way to
get better there. Pharaoh Brown, speaking of tight ends, had
a big day hit a bowling ball catch and run
where he put Elijah Campbell on his back in open space,
and he had a big block on another long catch
and run from Waddell. He's been good off the edge
in the running game as advertised there, and so is
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Patrick Paul.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
He was a clean sheet.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Once again in the one on one drills and had
a good team period as well. He had a win
against Chopp, which I don't think anybody stopped chopping the
one on ones besides Pat. And speaking of Chop, he
had a one on one rep Austin Jackson where he
came from that wide nine alignment where he runs that
all the time right with an upfield move, a wicked
cross the face of the tackle and wins back inside.
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And I don't know that there's anybody on the planet
outside of like Lane Johnson that could have handled that move.
It's getting to and I'm gonna get some pushback on this,
but it's getting to me in the territory just in
the terms of how quick twitch that movement is for
Chop with the acceleration when he has a runway to
Micah Parsons, like I watched Parsons on film ahead of
that Cowboys game, was like, this dude is just different man.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
It's like Aaron Donald ESQ.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I think we're heading there with Chopp and his quickness
as a rusher that can just put like, you don't
have an answer, You're just gonna have to put two
guys out there all day long. Kenneth Grant had his
best day. He had a rep where he rode the
wave down the field or out wide and made the play.
He had another one where he stacked up Jonah with power,
shot the hands on the chest plate and just push
pulled him out of the rep for a disengage and
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a run.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He was very impactful in the one on ones and
Jonah had a nice sequence of reps. Him and Kenneth
Grant had a good battle, but he went up against
Zach Sealer.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You guys do know what a hump move is.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
A hump is where you rush upfield and you like,
if you're going to the right, you throw the left
arm under the armpit the right armpit of the offensive lineman,
and you put your right foot in the ground and
you throw that arm up to kind.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Of hook him.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's called a hump move, you toss him off to
the side. He did that to Jonahsavit Naya and after
a good initial set from Jonah, Sealer threw the hump
move and got him out of the way for a win.
And then he tried it a second time and Jonah
swats the hand down and repositions the hands and locks
Zach Sealer out to gain that leverage. So to see
him learn that quickly, I thought was pretty cool. I
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thought Andrew Meyer was really good today. I thought Daniel
Brunskill has just had a rough training camp so far,
and like it's got to get picked up if we're
gonna make the roster. Here to me and like we
need that, so let's get it go in there. Sixty four.
I liked all the running backs today. Madison continues to shine.
I thought Right had one of the best runs of
the day, an eight yard touchdown run where he just
got downhill with conviction and push it across the goal line.
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But Madison's had one of the best camps so far.
I thought Ollie Gordon ran the ball really hard today
and ran through some piles. Zeke Biggers had a nice
day with back to back run stops, but on one
of those, Allie Gordon did run through him for like
an extra three or four yards for a good display
of power. Mohammed Kamara had a fantastic rep keeping the
outside arm free against a kickout block and a wide run.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
He forces the play to bubble.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Help arrives and he gets back on his horse in
pursuit and finishes the play at the sideline right around
the line of scrimmage. Grayson Murphy had I think a
sack and maybe a second one. It's at least a
quarterback hit, but he was in there close a couple
of times, and I thought, Zach Wilson and Quinn you
were spun the ball well once again.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Today.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Been a pretty consistent camp for those two guys across
the board, and we've seen a lot of good football
out there.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Really for the entire squad.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm encouraged with what I've seen so far, despite some
of the injuries there on the back end. All right,
let's go ahead and finish with two soundbites.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Here.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Coach was asked we evaluate the first day of padded practice.
I thought this had a lot of good detail in it.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The first day of padded practice is super odd for
me because you're going out to practice and you're like,
I'm not looking for good I'm looking for the inevitable.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Like it's like, all right.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
You're.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
What if you were a a sports car and you're
driving without you know, or a NASCAR without some of
those resistance drag resistant things that they have, and then
all of a sudden you put a drag resistance on it.
You have pads on, so invariably everything is going to
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be incrementally more difficult simply by science and moving mass.
So trying you go to first day to pads and
in my mind, I'm never expecting it to be anything close.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
To my final vision of pads.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You've worked yourself up to a standard of practice up
until the point that you really like pads. Come on, guys,
are gonna be a hair more tired, jogging a little
slower back to the huddle.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
The pads are going to be high.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Invariably, it's the first time since January, so the first
day of pads is a necessary evil.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
For us.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I was it was kind of close to my expectation. Today,
I'm expecting practice that moves closer to a non padded practice,
and I'm expecting the guys that we've pointed out where
their pad level wasn't high enough or they weren't playing
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behind their pads.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
To improve that today.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Bottom line is first day pads, the meeting after practice,
and the stuff that you show players is like as
tailed is, you.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Know, with the position coaches and with the.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Groups as they are ever because you are expecting it
not to be exactly what you look like, what you
want it to look like, and then expecting improvement as
it comes the next day.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
So it was solid. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Kind of close to my expectations, but not where our
team wants it wants it to be. And that you
know in itself is you know this team a win
for this team, you know our expectations and standards are higher.
So yeah, this this day of practice, I would suggest
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you have your eyes open, guys.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
It'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And the last one here is just a cross check
on a thing I've been talking about a lot, the
update on how you would say the progress is going
with regards to building the culture through the draft and
this class and how they're approaching things.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
One more time to coach.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
The most important thing is you identify what you believe
to be the people placed in the building that should
be able to take advantage of the building while also
being what the veterans here just knowing the audience that
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it wasn't going to be a time where they were
going to really tolerate rookies that couldn't contribute to what
they're trying to do now. And so what I've seen
is the rookies understand that the rookies, and they're not
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trivializing that, and they understand that. I think the veterans
are doing a good job of letting them know in
as plain as day, Hey, we need you guys now.
So you know, uh, whether what we kind of knew
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going into the draft that we're gonna have to target
certain types of people, uh that would be predisposed of
two be football first, to do the the the the
hard long steps that have to be done in a
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rookie season to be able to be playing amongst the veterans.
And you know, I think collective that I'm very very
happy with the the class because they are delivering on
who we thought they were as people, and a lot
of that, you know is uh will be tested in
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the next coming days because the it doesn't it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
They can't. They have no understanding of.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
The the the event, how much scheme they're responsible for
based upon their previous previous lives. So h installs today,
install in the next coming days. Well we'll hopefully see
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them respond in the same way they've responded up until
this point.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
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Speaker 1 (38:46):
Until next time, fins up Caroline, Cameron and Willow. Daddy's
coming hopefully
This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is up, dollphans, and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
it was day seven out on the grass we heard
from coach and Tua. So I have a whole segment
dedicated to QB one and what has been my least
amount of coverage of the quarterback in my six years
of doing this here at training camp, and I'll explain
to you why I've done that as well, Plus a
(00:33):
really in depth look at the cornerbacks today after the
cater Coohu news that he will miss the entire season,
what it might look like in his absence. That and
all the practice notes from the Baptist Health studios inside
the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast.
My Daffy first, So I know I'm supposed to play
the hits off the top, but I wanted to start
(00:53):
with just a little bit of a confession to you guys.
I suppose and I think this is more common on
Twitter that it has been in the past, and I've often,
you know, kind of contemplated the value of full transparency
on the podcast with regards to being critical and whether
or not my boss is like that or not, because
(01:14):
the people that listen to the podcast have been You're
not the ones coming at me on social for you know,
cutting a paycheck from the team, And I keep getting
these replies and it's just not true. You daily ever,
you know diehards know that we've talked about the weaknesses
and the shortcomings last year and the bad can't practices
and all that stuff, like it's transparency on the show,
(01:36):
and yet I still.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Get those replies.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And if you're going to reply to me on social
and this is not applying to any of you, because again,
these people aren't listening to the podcast, I don't think
if the reply is like, I don't envy the job.
You have to spend this thing positive this season, you're
catching a block because one that's not factually true.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's a major.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Discredit to who I am, what I do and my
skills as a broadcaster, as a football you'vev and everything
across the board, and you're lying about the content.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
We're going to talk about some things on this show
that haven't gone well.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So I just want to put that out there up
off the top here, full transparency, critical stuff in the podcast.
You guys are here with me, get it. I'm not
gonna tweet about it, but I'll put it on the
show for you guys. Just wanted to get that across
off the top right away. So speaking of that, the
day began with some terrible news and first things first,
I want to play Coach McDaniel's comments on Cater COOHU
(02:27):
because it's something that I echo, and I'll just start
with my experience first off the top of getting to
know Cater, who always has time for me when I
see him around the building. I got a chance to
watch a rookie mini camp practice with him a couple
of years ago, and that was really cool to just
kind of pick his brain on football and he asked
me how my day's going, asked me about my life,
and then just the respect I have for him and
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how he goes about his business as a player, because
he is all business.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
There's no frill with his game.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And for a guy that came from Texas A and
m commerce grinded his way onto the squad as a
UDFA put himself in position to potentially be a cornerback
one this year and you know, held down that third
spot with two really proven cornerbacks last year going into
a contract year. I am just heartbroken for the guy
that he will miss the entire season going on injury reserve.
(03:14):
Here is coach McDaniel on what that meant to him
as a person that quite fancies Cater Koho himself.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Cater and I go back, and I've seen him come
into the league with nothing promised and earn earn his
spot within this team. And then this year in particular,
you know, I saw him ascend to a different level,
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trying to take the reins of his career and get
his game to an even higher level.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You know. So for for that and the timing of it, you.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Know, it was I've we were I was crushed until
I talked to Cater, And honestly, Cater made me feel
a little bit better about where he was at simply
by his mindset.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
You know, you don't you don't know the whys.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
All the time when things happen, and you know, I
get concerned for guys that get stuck in that in
that world of uh, you know, fixation of the opportunity lost.
Cater's mindset triggered like that where he was like, yeah,
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this is tough but I guarantee him to come back better.
That is the only way to approach really the game
of football and life and and quite honestly, you know,
I think it's one one thing that you know, talking
to the team and talking to Cater, you you're you're
(05:06):
risking a ton of errors if you try to pretend
to know what you try to pretend to attach a
negative or a positive to to something that happens that catches.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You by surprise.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Down the road, Cater may look at this as the
best thing that ever happened. So he's focused on trying
to create that scenario one day at a time with
his teammate support.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And Ashton Davis's injury news was better than expected. McDaniel
said that Ashton is not a season ending injury. Here's
what he said verbatim, the non contact you're always prepared
for the worst. However, we were fortunate that it wasn't
the worst. That being said, it will take the next
couple of days to see how long that will be,
but for sure it wasn't the thing that keeps you
out for the whole season. So that's the you know,
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another injury here in this defensive backfield or you know
a couple of them. Rather seems to be the place
where all of the camp injuries are stacking up at
this point. And I always try to remind fans of
how things relate to the other thirty one teams. I
know a lot of football fans just watch their team
and so you don't have the you know, the context
across the rest of the league. But it just seems
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like right now, you know, it's been especially brutal this year,
like Christian Gonzalez and Maxwell Harriston both suffered what might
be significant injuries that keep them out for several weeks.
At Bill's and Pat's camp in our own division, it
looks like a moment there that Justin Field is going
to miss the entire year, But it was just like
a toe that he came back from the next day,
which was weird, but it's the unfortunate cost of doing
business for this sport. Catered to IR, We lost Ardi
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Burns to IR earlier, Ashton Davis going to miss some time.
B Jay Adams is down right now, Jason Matrie back in,
OTA's Dante Trader down right now. I think it's good
that we got Jack and Mike Hilton in here. As
quick as we did, so they can get their feet
wet in the system. And I imagine those guys are
going to play White a bit this year if they're healthy,
as I think they're two of the better players in
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that room right now. And I think Jack Jones was
the most talented cornerback on the roster when he signed here,
even when Cater was up for the three plays that
he played when Jack Jones was out there. And let
me make this perfectly clear, the Cater injury puts a
damper on my excitement that I've given you guys for
the last seven days. At least, you know now, I
think there's a chance that we could make a move,
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and we'll see what happens there over the coming days
and weeks. But as constructed, he was sort of the
lynchpin of that position, and that was going to make
the rest of it easier to deal with in terms
of a possible unproven playing across from him and Jack
Jones or Mike Hilton, whoever it might be that fills
in with a Storm Duck or a you know, Cam
Smith or Ethan Bonner, which we'll get to all those
guys here in just one second, but you know Cater
(07:46):
and Jack as a two man corner group that I
thought was going to be your primary base with a
lot of big nickel packages.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And three safeties. That had me excited.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I didn't think it was a roster hole at all
with those two, but right now I think it is,
and we're going to have to find someone, whether it's
internal or the out coming in to fulfill that. Can
you be the Buffalo Bills in twenty twenty one or
two I think it was twenty two when Christian Benford
came from nowhere to be a really good, contributing rookie cornerback.
You kind of have to have that right now unless
you go elsewhere. Also, I saw one tweet that asked
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about who the slot might be and did not acknowledge
Mike Hilton as the answer for that, because that guy
has only played in the slot for the eight years
of his career for Good football team. So I have
no idea how you do not know that, but I digress.
And just a reminder of how much Cater was playing
on the perimeter last year. Also, I'm not sure how
we don't know this, but I digress once again, But
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I think that I don't think it was or is
as simple as just find a slot cornerback to replace Cater,
because Cater did a lot more than that. I think
you're trying to identify roles in particular, and one of
the themes of practice today was the way the zone
coverages work without going into full detail and breaking, you know,
reporting rules. There's a good synergy with those guys, and
I think a lot of that stems from good work
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from the safeties in line backers to help you know,
ease that and also a lot of confidence and trust
in the front and all the different things they can
do to create pressure to you know, allow you to
play confident for two and three seconds at a time.
I still contend that the best way to play defense
in today's NFL, which is vastly different. Right, it's not
really post safety anymore. It's like split safety. You have
to be able to do both things and come down
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and cover all that stuff, but it's to be multiple
in how you rush and play good zone coverage in
the back of that and match that front and coverage
together with one hundred percent execution within your rules and
not have busts and have the ability to throw your
man coverage in there as a bit of a changeup.
I mean, the league is on balance seventy five twenty
five in favor of zone coverage these days, give or take.
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Only one team last year played more man coverage than
zone and that was a team that was you know,
had twenty two injuries on defense in the Detroit Lions,
and they gave up a ton of points, especially down
the stretch. As far as the potential outside help, as
Sante Samuel is the best fit, I mean that that
seems pretty obvious to me, but we'll see if they,
you know, wind up circling back to him and probably
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actually the only one that tracks as a starter.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Of course, his.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Dad's comments would complicate things there, I think a little bit,
and that would make it to me, you know, if
he does, if he is an option for you, that
would be all three of your top cornerbacks in my opinion,
signing mid camp, which speaks to how the position was
previous and I'm not not naive to the fact that
it wasn't up to par. And I know I'm hyped
for this team and I still am. I still think
(10:25):
this team has a lot of good ahead of it,
but this has stalled some of the ceiling of the
expectation just a little bit, because it's a problem and
I'm not going to act like it's not. My positive
outlook for this season still goes back to the offense
and the fact that I think they can score thirty
points a game again, then it won't really matter all
that much until right you get into the games that
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matter the most, which I know that's a big point
of contention for Dolphins fans and it should be in
any team in the NFL. The middle of January, when
you go to Buffalo and case in Baltimore, that's you know,
deep playoff runs. If we get to that point, then
I think, I think you guys will be happy.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I don't know, I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It feels like most of Dolphins twitters unhappy these days,
but you know, I think one playoff win and then
a trip to Casey or Buffalo in round two, I
think I think fans would take that right now. And
by that, like you know, at that point of the year,
there's injuries all over the place, so maybe you run
into the Chiefs with a banged up offensive line. Like
I don't know, but that's getting way ahead of the plot.
It just sucks. It sucks for us, it sucks for
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cater Someone stepped the f up, right, That's what it's
gonna have to be.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Cam.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Let's go show me something, Isaiah Johnson, Let's show me
that physical skill set and make it match what you
do on the field. Make a big leap. Ethan Bonner,
come on, let's go baby. Jason Marshall, let's go time.
You're a rookie, but we have lots of rookies that
are gonna contribute this year. I'm not speaking faith personally
to this, but that's what we need. It's tough, it sucks,
but that's the NFL, so figure it out. And this
had me watching the corners even closer today to try
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to figure out who that might be. I think the
name that has me most intrigued with his progression is
white Lightning his slate of skills and what I saw
on the field today with Ethan Bonner, first the notes,
he had two pass breakups and one on ones. He's
been trending that way for a little bit now, which
if you've ever been to practice, one on ones are
dominated by the wide receivers. It's a drill that favors
them in a big way, so PBUs and picks are
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pretty rare, but he carried it over to team work.
One rep, there's a blitz that gets it on Zach Wilson.
Immediately kJ Britt pulls up in front of Zach Wilson
for a would be sack, but the rep continues and
like Ethan doesn't know that the rep is over, so
he keeps covering his guy and he's manned up on
Tarik Black from the exposition. The boundary part of the
field pressed up and man coverage undercuts it and has
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a pick in his hands but can't squeeze the interception.
And Mike McDaniel was right behind the play in the
defensive backfield and he gets very excited about the rep.
He's slapping his play sheet on the grass, which I
have come to learn this year is what he does
when he's fired up, and that it was a dap
up with Ethan after the fact, which confirms my thought
I think. And then Cater his specialty was coming down
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and playing the run on the screen game right, and
Bonnard did that on a play against Hm where he
fits into the force defender and smacks him and put
him on his back in the backfield. So here's what
has me pondering the possibility of Bonner stepping up this year.
He did get the bump he was with the ones
to kick off practice. Do you guys remember that first
preseason game last year where he got targeted like six
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times and gave up one really long catch I think
it was, and like another short one and it kind
of ruined his box score. But on balance on tape,
the reps was like, Hey, he got asked a lot
right here to go play the X to the boundary
and one on one coverage without safety help, and I
thought he handled it pretty well. Remember the KC playoff
game in the freezing cold when he had some good
stuff on tape there, Like, we have so many guys
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that can cover the slot here, you know, whether it's
the safeties or Mike Hilton or you know whoever your
choice might be Jack Jones inside, Which just makes the
aforementioned tweet funniest hell to me, because like, how do
you not have a clue on how slot positions work? Pullback, Travis,
pull it back, And we've been over this, Minka Iffy,
the linebackers, Trader mc morris, I think they all have
you know, interior impact to their games. But I think
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you have this collection of guys that can be more
strict perimeter guys like I think the Isaiah Johnson's game
is that. I think Storm Ducks game is that. I
think Cam smith game, if it's gonna click, is that.
But I don't like the prospect of any of those
guys inside right now. I think Ethan is best outside,
but I do think his skill set is translatable to
the inside if he can, you know, muster all the
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information that comes from that. And I bring up that
preseason game last year because he was in the boundary
to that short side of the field where you play
that face up press up coverage to the X receiver
and it's a lot of man coverage over there, but
you can also play bill and cloud from there. You
can call your hybrid coverages from there. I think that's
I think that's Ethan's skill set because he's kind of
got that cater in him. The downhill, put my face
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in the fan mindset, and this is all building to
a crescendo. He has the long speed, which none of
that rest of that room does except for Cam Smith.
But there's also like instincts and feel that have to
happen there too, But you have to be able to
recover if you get beat off the line with long
speed in that role, and what do we hear all
the time?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Like Ethan Barr's the fastest guy the team.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I think that way that he and Jack can play
from press to zone and man recovery on the verticals
are the best in the room of my opinion. Speaking
of Jack Jones, he had a rep today where he
almost assisted Willy Gay on a near pick, but Willy
Gay dropped it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Again.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
He's got like double hands on footballs of anybody else
on defense, but he's got like four drop picks two.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You're up in the line of scrimmage, you can boild
to a zone drop and man, the way these guys
are communicating like so real quick if you're not familiar,
Like zone match is the new wave of football, and
it's basically zone where you play to your alignment pre
snap and then based on how the routes unfold post snap,
you have roles to adhere to, whether it's carrying a
vertical stem and passing off on his inside stem or
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you go with the first one and you're the one
to go last outside. It's this new age version of
like zone match, which is like man match, and old
zone was just playing one part of the field, so
it's a different version of zone coverage. But man, if
you just play connected that way, you can get the
job done, you know, as a collective. And I think
that's where Jack shines with his ability to play man
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on top of that, but I think Bonner can do
it too. I think Mike Hilton's the best slot on
the team, and we've got varied skills for matchup based
defense on the back end as they try to identify
the pecking order of who can stay within those rules.
We got off the rails there a little bit, but
I think that's kind of how you view the position
group today. And I think a lot's gonna change from
now until Week one in terms of what it looks
like because they got to find some stuff out back there.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
With Jack, he was in coverage on a long ball
to d Skridge that you saw on social media.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Buy now. That's kind of his tape A lot of good.
I love his tape.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I think he's physically a fantastic player, but he takes
some chances and he took the bait on a double
move and got torched for a touchdown. Ethan Robbinson a
really nice pass breakup and a one on one rep
against Erica Azukama. I've been impressed by Jason Marshall and
his man reps. He's shown that both in one on
ones and in team drills as well. Cam Smith's best
rep a camp to me was a play coming down
off the edge to put a shoulder into a running
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back in the running game. I thought Storm Duck had
a really nice day today. His length, in physicality and
his smarts, that's part of what kind of what tracks
the most with him to me.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
He really gets what we trying to do.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
He also had a rap where he fell into a
he sunk into the deep cloud on an over route
to Gilen Waddle and he races this window on a
two a throw to him. So that tracked with what
coach said, which was this a good way to put
a bow on this segment about that cornerback group.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
We have multiple variances of players.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
That we're working through that and then so you have
a starting point and you see how the progression goes.
Right now, I'm good with where we're at if if
there was a situation in a week where I didn't
feel that we're good, you know, Chris and I would
talk and we'd get something done there. But we feel
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good with where where our plan is and and the
various people were given opportunities to in a in a
very competitive defensive backfield.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
All right, let's go ahead and take our first break,
a deep first segment there, come back and talk a
little bit to a tongue of i Looa. That's Next
Draft Time podcast, brought to you by AutoNation. We are
seven practices in to twenty twenty five and Tua tongue
of Bai Loa has not turned the ball over. He
hasn't even thrown a pass that should have been picked
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off Willie Gay style. If this were PFF, Tua's turnover
worthy play rate is zero on what ballparking two hundred
and fifty throws.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I don't know what the hell it is.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let's go ahead and hear from Mike McDaniel, who has
asked about this on Wednesday morning.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
All right, so you have an evolution of all right,
you're how can he be elite at timing in with
the primary and then then you're going through the Okay,
well you're developing the offense by all right, well, what
if the primary is not there, how do we get
completions in progressions? And that was kind of a focus
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last year.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
We're progressions and.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Having a non premiere play calls and still being able
to get a ball to an eligible and advance in
a productive fashion. I think what you're seeing now is
a culmination of that where he's you know, he's taking
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it's his team, he knows it, and each and every
day he is trying to dictate the terms by how
he does his job. He has a he's kind of
found his his specific cadence, not actual cadence, but his
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cadence for how he stays focused, locked in while also
being himself. His intensity each and every day has been
very consistent, which players are responding to. He has a
and with the because of that, I think the ownership
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and conviction of how he's playing the position is probably
responsible for for those for not having any interceptions. He's
not being passive, he's being aggressive, but I think you know,
the culmination of deliberate practice over over the you know,
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hours and hours and hours of work. He's his ownership
of the game and and his position within the offense
I think is evident every time we step out.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
On the field.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So we got to it today also when I wanted
to ask him about that and kind of follow ups
and say, like, you know, coach was talking about your
mastery of the offense and getting guys in the right
positions and and all of that stuff, like how do
you view that from your perspective?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Here's Tua.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, continuing to work on the things that I feel
I'm good at, but also trying to trying to get
better and trying to still master a lot of the
concepts in which they'll give me conflict with different coverages
or one look at a coverage pre snap to post snap.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
So it's still trying to work on that.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And I wanted to play my voice in the follow
up there, but you couldn't really hear it. So I
asked him, like, do you sometimes you know, ask Weave
or McDaniel to get an extra look or maybe change
the way the defense is constructed to you know, help
you get the looks that you need to really emphasize
the things you want to work on.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
How does that communication work here is to on that?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, No, I talked to the players more than I
talk to the coaches about certain things, and then if
I really do need something back again, then I'll go
mention that to Mike. I have conversations with Weave about
certain looks that they do, reasons as to why they
do it, and then why I think that's very helpful
for my game. So we go about it in that sense,
but just coming out not knowing what they're going to do,
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you know, I think that's the way to do it
in training camp, so that as you go out with
what your soundbites are, your footwork, what you should be
thinking of. If you go out there and you're thinking
about the right stuff, then we'll see it on film.
And if you're not, you know that too, will see
it on film, and you'll fear that as well.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I'm in practice.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I just thought that was a really cool perspective in
terms of, well, how practice goes and two what later
talk about you know, more about the process and how
he views these practices, which again you know, pointing to
the sign. The sign being the JJ Watt tweet about
practice stats and all of this just got me to
observe too a closer throughout the day in practice, and
normally you know, shoot, you guys know this with me,
Like I used to do full segments onto every other
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day on the show here, But we've hit this point
to me now where it's just not necessary. I don't
need to tell you about all the short throws that
were on time and on the money. That's the expectation,
that's the norm. So let's go ahead and evaluate other
spots of the roster that we don't know about yet.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I will detail the.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You know, the well thought out, finer details, the explosiveness
or the explosives rather, that's the that's like the stuff
that's worth talking about. But we just don't have to
assess these practices in a way that's pontificating if he's
the franchise quarterback like we did, you know, maybe four
or five years ago. So it got me watching him
closer throughout practice at various points when he's not even
under center, and just kind of how he approaches his
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day speaking about those details in the lock in that
you know, coach talked about, and I watched him, you know,
taking reps as he deems necessary, making guys run routes
again if it's not to his standard, kicking the quarterback
out and saying I'm taking that rep again. You know,
during handoff drills, he would spend time with each of
the backs drilling additional detail. After the reps. These aren't
things to celebrate. I don't think it's the expectation, but
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I just wanted to listen out there for you year six,
second year, second contract, all that stuff, all the individual
accolades and numbers he's posted.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You expect this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So it's not like pom palm waving, rather just providing
the checklist that he's going through as a leader and
his development as the man here. You know, we go
as one goes, right, no matter what happens elsewhere. This
team is in games win Number one's under center, and
so let's see how he executes the daily monotony. Like
that's how it is for me. I have to, you know,
get ready in the morning, come in here and do
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the same thing every day for a training camp, and
then go home and get the kids ready for dinner
and for baths and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's a long process.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Also between periods, you know, reps, you'll see guys like
dancing and laughing and doing things together. Things you should
do during a football practice, you know, have fun. But
Tua is with BEV talking football. I see him like
motioning certain things in his technique and fundamentals all that stuff.
I see him go over to Dan Reno and talk
about talk with him for a little bit. Right before
a team period starts, they tap up and he goes
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out there and after a period where two went four
for four three chunk plays, he goes over to BEV
and gets more instruction. And this continued during the water
break and special teams period. Every second on the grass
is an opportunity to get better, and I think Tua
really kind of leans into that. To come back to
the process over results idea and the JJ Watt tweet,
I want to play this audio on tuists perspective on
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what camp should look like for him.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
I'm not thinking too much about it if I throw
an interception or if I don't throw an interception. In camp,
you just want to see how consistent you can be
with the plays that you're giving and a lot of
the times it's I'm just gonna try to see what
this is going to look like and what this is
going to play like, and if you want to try
to see if this fits in this window on a
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certain pass you try to see it. I mean we
did that today on one of the one of the
first plays maybe of camp today. So you know, I'm
not really basing it off of what the result is
or isn't. For myself in this training camp, I have
about two or three things, max, that I have for
myself that I'm focusing on for each practice that I
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go out there, and I can tell you, like two
of the three things I did not do really well today.
So that's what I'm saying, Like, it's not result oriented,
you know, because I know for myself what I wanted
to get done and I wasn't able to get that
done today.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That's for his practice notes. I mean, he was pretty
self critical for what he thought he did today. But
he had a period where he did have those four
consecutive plays for chunks and it was deep into the
progression finding Westbrook Akine on two shots over the middle.
Two of those were jammed in between the one and
the eight on his journey with zero point zero yards
of separation, like legitimately the cornerback is in contact with
Nick at the catch point. One of those was Cornell
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Armstrong on top of Nick and the ball had to
be fit through a pringles can and somehow Tua did it.
And on that note, with Nwi, I've talked a lot
about his work as a blocker and how I think
his tape in those areas is better than a lot
of the tight end reps we had last year on
tape with eighty one with number nine. But Nwi caught
two balls today that were exactly like John new catches
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were last year. And I watched that game against the
Patriots over the weekend, you know, as I'm like between
the Mayor's game and the PGA tournament, and he's like
posting up on these release valve routes where Reek and
Wattle take the top of the coverage off and create
space in the middle, and he just catches it and
gets up. Feel like, that's what I saw from Westbrook
a keen a today and that had me pretty encouraged.
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He also had a quarterback's best friend a screen that
scored from like fifty yards out. Maybe Wattle was in
the Orange Jersey catches a now throw kind of coming
back to the quarterback on a tunnel screen where nw
I and Pharaoh Brown lead the charge and have these
great angles for blocks down the field. Wattle runs right
through the mess untouched twenty five yards and if he
can make Minca mess an open space, which I tend
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to think he can, it's a fifty yard touchdown. So
Tua was sharp to the naked eye. He told us
those things he has to focus on, and you heard
it there at the end of the presser. But I
like my quarterback not being satisfied. And I'm pretty bullish
on Tua playing the best ball of his career this year.
But that's not a surprise because this guy, he gets
better every single year. Before our last break, a fun
moment at the end of practice, I'm sure you saw
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on my social Tua came over during his media or
before his media and pulled up right next to me,
and he jokingly said under his breath, like, how's too
we doing a break?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
How's tunguing about? Low looking?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And so I asked Quintin Bell, Hey, how's Tua look
so far at training camp?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Oos. I think he's having the great camp throwing dots.
You know, he's making tough throw that's that's even tougher
for us to pick off man, you know, So some
of the some of the throw. He's Megan, it is unbelievable,
you know what I mean. We're we got guys in repositions,
but the balls is a better, better ball, you know,
good defense, better offense man. So super Powder oos his
growth man. We need him this year.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So that's my dog last break right there.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Come back and do the rest of the practice notes,
and I have two soundbites from coach to close things up.
That's all next Draft Time podcast brought to you by
an Nation talk to talked a little bit of Waddle earlier,
and he continues to just beat all kinds of coverage
on all kinds of routes, from all kinds of alignments.
He's been the best playmaker him and Devon h and
all camp long. Tyreek was absent today with an excused
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absence for personal reasons, so it was cool to see
Wattle just continue to roll without Tyreek on the other side.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Out there.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Let's make a quick rip of the practice notes because
I have two more long McDaniel sound bites and we're
getting short on time already.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
D S.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Gridge made the play of the day that you saw
on social a long touchdown from Zach Wilson. He's had
a very nice camp so far in the back end
of that receiver's room. Man the preseason, I'm excited to
watch it for that and for many reasons with all
the young talent and these quarterbacks, and lots of reasons
to watch the exhibition season. This year, Taj Washington had
the biggest separation route in the one on ones. He's
had an impressive camp man. His feel for when to
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get back to the football and how to win contested
catches at his size impresses me.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I've defended Julian Hill more than most, I think.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But it's the way he fights the football is getting
it's hard to watch sometimes. He had another drop today
on the easiest ball to catch, a little flat route
out in this open space. He fought one on a
little hookup route yesterday too, and that's on the game tape. Like,
catching the ball is an absolute struggle and it doesn't
really matter how good you can be as a blocker.
And he's got to be better in that area too.
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If you're ineligible and you're not catching the football or
a threat to catch the ball, it's a big disadvantage
for the offense. We have to find a way to
get better there. Pharaoh Brown, speaking of tight ends, had
a big day hit a bowling ball catch and run
where he put Elijah Campbell on his back in open space,
and he had a big block on another long catch
and run from Waddell. He's been good off the edge
in the running game as advertised there, and so is
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Patrick Paul.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
He was a clean sheet.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Once again in the one on one drills and had
a good team period as well. He had a win
against Chopp, which I don't think anybody stopped chopping the
one on ones besides Pat. And speaking of Chop, he
had a one on one rep Austin Jackson where he
came from that wide nine alignment where he runs that
all the time right with an upfield move, a wicked
cross the face of the tackle and wins back inside.
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And I don't know that there's anybody on the planet
outside of like Lane Johnson that could have handled that move.
It's getting to and I'm gonna get some pushback on this,
but it's getting to me in the territory just in
the terms of how quick twitch that movement is for
Chop with the acceleration when he has a runway to
Micah Parsons, like I watched Parsons on film ahead of
that Cowboys game, was like, this dude is just different man.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
It's like Aaron Donald ESQ.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I think we're heading there with Chopp and his quickness
as a rusher that can just put like, you don't
have an answer, You're just gonna have to put two
guys out there all day long. Kenneth Grant had his
best day. He had a rep where he rode the
wave down the field or out wide and made the play.
He had another one where he stacked up Jonah with power,
shot the hands on the chest plate and just push
pulled him out of the rep for a disengage and
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a run.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He was very impactful in the one on ones and
Jonah had a nice sequence of reps. Him and Kenneth
Grant had a good battle, but he went up against
Zach Sealer.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You guys do know what a hump move is.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
A hump is where you rush upfield and you like,
if you're going to the right, you throw the left
arm under the armpit the right armpit of the offensive lineman,
and you put your right foot in the ground and
you throw that arm up to kind.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Of hook him.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's called a hump move, you toss him off to
the side. He did that to Jonahsavit Naya and after
a good initial set from Jonah, Sealer threw the hump
move and got him out of the way for a win.
And then he tried it a second time and Jonah
swats the hand down and repositions the hands and locks
Zach Sealer out to gain that leverage. So to see
him learn that quickly, I thought was pretty cool. I
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thought Andrew Meyer was really good today. I thought Daniel
Brunskill has just had a rough training camp so far,
and like it's got to get picked up if we're
gonna make the roster. Here to me and like we
need that, so let's get it go in there. Sixty four.
I liked all the running backs today. Madison continues to shine.
I thought Right had one of the best runs of
the day, an eight yard touchdown run where he just
got downhill with conviction and push it across the goal line.
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But Madison's had one of the best camps so far.
I thought Ollie Gordon ran the ball really hard today
and ran through some piles. Zeke Biggers had a nice
day with back to back run stops, but on one
of those, Allie Gordon did run through him for like
an extra three or four yards for a good display
of power. Mohammed Kamara had a fantastic rep keeping the
outside arm free against a kickout block and a wide run.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
He forces the play to bubble.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Help arrives and he gets back on his horse in
pursuit and finishes the play at the sideline right around
the line of scrimmage. Grayson Murphy had I think a
sack and maybe a second one. It's at least a
quarterback hit, but he was in there close a couple
of times, and I thought, Zach Wilson and Quinn you
were spun the ball well once again.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Today.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Been a pretty consistent camp for those two guys across
the board, and we've seen a lot of good football
out there.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Really for the entire squad.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm encouraged with what I've seen so far, despite some
of the injuries there on the back end. All right,
let's go ahead and finish with two soundbites.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Here.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Coach was asked we evaluate the first day of padded practice.
I thought this had a lot of good detail in it.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The first day of padded practice is super odd for
me because you're going out to practice and you're like,
I'm not looking for good I'm looking for the inevitable.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Like it's like, all right.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
You're.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
What if you were a a sports car and you're
driving without you know, or a NASCAR without some of
those resistance drag resistant things that they have, and then
all of a sudden you put a drag resistance on it.
You have pads on, so invariably everything is going to
(33:36):
be incrementally more difficult simply by science and moving mass.
So trying you go to first day to pads and
in my mind, I'm never expecting it to be anything close.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
To my final vision of pads.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You've worked yourself up to a standard of practice up
until the point that you really like pads. Come on, guys,
are gonna be a hair more tired, jogging a little
slower back to the huddle.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
The pads are going to be high.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Invariably, it's the first time since January, so the first
day of pads is a necessary evil.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
For us.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I was it was kind of close to my expectation. Today,
I'm expecting practice that moves closer to a non padded practice,
and I'm expecting the guys that we've pointed out where
their pad level wasn't high enough or they weren't playing
(34:45):
behind their pads.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
To improve that today.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Bottom line is first day pads, the meeting after practice,
and the stuff that you show players is like as
tailed is, you.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Know, with the position coaches and with the.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Groups as they are ever because you are expecting it
not to be exactly what you look like, what you
want it to look like, and then expecting improvement as
it comes the next day.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
So it was solid. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Kind of close to my expectations, but not where our
team wants it wants it to be. And that you
know in itself is you know this team a win
for this team, you know our expectations and standards are higher.
So yeah, this this day of practice, I would suggest
(35:43):
you have your eyes open, guys.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
It'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And the last one here is just a cross check
on a thing I've been talking about a lot, the
update on how you would say the progress is going
with regards to building the culture through the draft and
this class and how they're approaching things.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
One more time to coach.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
The most important thing is you identify what you believe
to be the people placed in the building that should
be able to take advantage of the building while also
being what the veterans here just knowing the audience that
(36:20):
it wasn't going to be a time where they were
going to really tolerate rookies that couldn't contribute to what
they're trying to do now. And so what I've seen
is the rookies understand that the rookies, and they're not
(36:44):
trivializing that, and they understand that. I think the veterans
are doing a good job of letting them know in
as plain as day, Hey, we need you guys now.
So you know, uh, whether what we kind of knew
(37:04):
going into the draft that we're gonna have to target
certain types of people, uh that would be predisposed of
two be football first, to do the the the the
hard long steps that have to be done in a
(37:27):
rookie season to be able to be playing amongst the veterans.
And you know, I think collective that I'm very very
happy with the the class because they are delivering on
who we thought they were as people, and a lot
of that, you know is uh will be tested in
(37:50):
the next coming days because the it doesn't it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
They can't. They have no understanding of.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
The the the event, how much scheme they're responsible for
based upon their previous previous lives. So h installs today,
install in the next coming days. Well we'll hopefully see
(38:22):
them respond in the same way they've responded up until
this point.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
We are off tomorrow, so no podcast. We'll do it
again Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, so a weekend full of coverage.
But until then, you all please be sure subscribe, rate,
review the show, follow me on social at NKLE NFL,
the team at Miami Dolphins, check out the YouTube channel
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much more, and last button not least, Miami Dolphins dot com.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Until next time, fins up Caroline, Cameron and Willow. Daddy's
coming hopefully
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