January 13, 2025 • 34 mins
The first round of the 2024 playoffs are in the books and Travis has some thoughts on the games and the lessons the Dolphins can take. Plus, some of the incumbent unproven players that could put their best foot forward to shore up needs in 2025 for Miami.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, well,
it was a fun weekend. Even though the Dolphins did
not play football over the weekend, we got to watch
plenty of football and I got lots of time with
the family. Hey, Sundays off in January in South Florida.
I know nobody wants to hear this, but they ain't
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all bad. We'll talk about which incumbents on the Dolphins
roster can stand to make this team better next year
that are not impact players right now, We'll talk about
the weekend that was in wild card weekend, and I'll
hit you guys with mock off season one point zero.
And this is like the crudest one we'll do because
I haven't even come close to completing my film study
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on all the prospects and freegans to be. So we'll
do that to kick off the off season here for
you guys, and I think Wednesday will get into the
position by a position review as we head into the
off season. From the Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist
Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
This is the Drive Time Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Ye so yeah again, the reason I mentioned how nice
it is to have a Sunday off this time of
year in South Florida. So a lot of you probably
are from here, a lot of you probably are not
from here. But we bear really like seven or maybe
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eight months of kind of hell, like the heat down here.
It's pretty pretty unenjoyable for most of the year. But
there's like a four month window where we have the
best weather on the planet where it's like sixty to
seventy degrees really all day every day, sometimes up to
seventy five eighty, maybe a little bit blowout in the
certain cold fronts. But took the kids to a world
of beer. We live like right across from this huge
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commercial complex full of restaurants, and it has like hewey magoos,
It has duck Donuts, it has Bubbakups, it has Zuru Ramen.
There's a dumpling panda in there. There's a flan Agains,
there's a five guys I get my haircut over there.
There's a casino Maderna. We walked over there before the
Broncos and Bill's game, and the kids were just happy
as can be. Daughter riding the scooter and got a
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brunch burger from World of Beer, which is one of
my favorite burgers there is in South Florida, which I
know World of Beer is a chain, but you know, hey,
I'm weak, but yeah, man, it was just a really
nice kind of dial things back. And that was despite
being sick too, So I hope your weekends were as
good as mine. And I didn't realize this as I
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was doing it. I always talk about the playoff games
here on the show, but I was taking notes pretty
heavily throughout each of those games and trying to find
ways to tie what you were seeing on the field
back to the Miami Dolphins, as we do this time
of year for every single playoff round, or I should
say every year this time of year. And you know,
the last couple of years, we had wild card games
of our own to recap and that would give us
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another week of content. But now I have the full
wild card slate for the first time since twenty twenty
one to break down and look at it through a
dolphin's lens. And I'm sitting there taking these extensive notes,
fighting some congestion and in between, you know, playing with
my daughter and my son. I taught my daughter this dap,
you know, the tap up where you go high low,
low high, then you pound it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Pretty excited about that development.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But as I'm doing all this, I'm like, man, I
have like a lot of freaking notes here. I just
kind of I kind of just wrote a podcast script.
So I want to talk about some of the takeaways
I have for you guys. And first, just off the
top four and one so far, we'll have the Rams
and Vikings tonight. I'm excited to watch that ball game
that brings us to one hundred and one or two
hundred and one wins this year, two hundred and one
and seventy six overall. We took the Texans, we took
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the Ravens, we took the Bills, We did take the
Packers wamp wamp and took the Commanders in that really
fun game that kind of save what was otherwise a
boring weekend. However, all of that said will be about
four minutes into the show here. All for a preamble
is to number one. First off the top, A man,
how great was that first game?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
How great was that?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Dude? I was like a pig inn s, if you
know what I'm saying, watching everybody's favorite quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Except for the Dolphins fans.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And look like I even told someone of this on
Twitter or whatever social media platform was. I forget, probably
probably Blue Sky about how I don't even think Herbert
is a bad quarterback. I probably sound like that because
I have basically made myself on that platform into the
counter to what people do with Tua, which I think
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is completely unfair. And that's why I go so hard
on the guy, and I do think he's vastly overrated.
I have clips on my Twitter from back when I
used to do this stuff where I would clip, you know,
watch every single college prospect every weekend and put clips
on Twitter. And that's kind of how I got popular
in the first place. And you know, trying to do
more of that on Blue Sky. But I would do
the clips of college quarterbacks, not twenty nineteen quarterback class
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or twenty twenty quarterback class, I should say. And I'll
never forget the Arizon State game when Justin Herbert had
big moment on top of big moment against the Herm
Edwards defense that clowned him. And that was kind of
what he was in all those big games. And that's
what he's been for the Chargers. No One seems to remember.
It was twenty twenty one. They were playing at the
Houston Texans. This is when the like the David Colvey
Houston Texans right, a team that won three or four
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games and was happy to win three or four games,
and he threw a stinker, had a bad pick six
in that game. I remember watching because I was on
the plane ride back from my hometown and we were
playing the Saints on Monday night the next night, and
the Dolphins needed a Chargers loss in that spot, and
the Patriots I think needed to lose a game and
they did to the Buffalo Bills. And it was a
really good plane ride watching those games transpire, and like,
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that's who he's been, and that's what he was in
this game.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
He doesn't see defense as well. You know, let's actually.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Go let's get into all this first, because I don't
want to just make this justin Herbert podcast, but Chargers
Texans to kick things off here. Look, my first takeaway
was that you can't not have weapons unless you're Patrick Mahomes,
Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, because Josh Allen just went
rough shot again in the wild card round without having
really any star talent around him in terms of skill players.
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Lamar Jackson just feasted on the freaking moribund Pittsburgh Steelers
without Jay Flowers and then Patrick Mahomes the last couple
of years has won super Bowls without you know, well,
he's got Travis Kelcey, but now he's got just the
corpse of Kelsey and nothing else much around him besides well,
I guess Rashid Rice was there, Hollywood Brown is now
there and Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But in the past he's done it right.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
He's proven that it's the old Tom Brady with Rashe
Caldwell and freaking you know, Troy Brown is a good player.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But you get the point.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
These elite, elite quarterbacks can survive not having weapons. C J.
Stroud and Justin Herbert cannot. That's the takeaway. And neither
could tow a tongue bai looa. This is what the
second tier quarterbacks look like without weapons. I mean, to
a people thought that he couldn't play the position because
when he had Isaiah Ford and DeVante Parker and Mike
Kasicki's his top weapons, it didn't look as good. I mean,
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you can separate the individual, and I always thought too
like made that offense, you know, basically at an FCS
offense functional, but especially in the case here with the Chargers,
where this quarterback has to see it in order to
throw it. I don't know who the hell's telling you people,
you people that this guy is like an elite processor
and anticipator.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I never have gotten that. That's why I didn't like
his game. You guys know how I roll. That's the
number one thing to me with quarterbacks. There's a reason
why I thought he was overrated. He threw two balls
in the first half where his arm was hit as
he threw. And that's another deficiency where he doesn't sense
or prepare or move or feel pressure like he's got.
He is really good when he does. It reminds me
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of Ryan Tannehill. It's he's when he can get out
and get on a straight line, it's very good.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He's very fast.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But when it comes to like quick movements in the
pocket and sensing things, he doesn't do that. And the
Texans had six passes defense in the first half, and
I'm sitting there thinking like this is gonna turn bad
for him because he keeps on throwing these balls into
these windows that are not there. The ball keeps getting
tipped up into the air and he's throwing them late,
and that's why he's getting these pds. I also note
the something you can take away from this game from
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a Dolphins perspective. You gotta have temperature changing defenders. Man
watch the way. And this might be too late, you know,
after the game's already occurred, but if you guys were
watching it with great detail, Kamari Lassiter and Kaylen Bullock
are dogs man, young players, hungry players coming off pile,
slapping their heads like Jalen Waddle does me he makes
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a big catch like this me just me absolute psycho pass.
You have to have that. And the Dolphins I thought
lacked that outside of like Jordan Brooks and Zach Seeler
and like don't I don't want to get into like
telling who was not a dog, but we don't. We
just didn't have enough, right because there's there are guys
in this team that are like that, but there just
wasn't enough. Like look at Derwin James, you know, or
Dayone Henley for the Chargers on the other side, same
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exact thing. The Chargers average three point seven yards per
play in the first half of that game.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
CJ. Stroud didn't look good for most of the game.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Nico Collins kind of came to life and he was
able to hit some of those inbreaking you know, rpo hits.
But by and large, these are two teams that the
doll they're not any better than the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And look, we were bad this year.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I thought there was too many new things that came
up for the Dolphins this year that we just were
not acceptable. And then the quarterback misses six games, which
is really the only difference between us being in this
game versus those two teams being in this game. But
this is a clear indicator. We'll get to the other
two AFC games here in just a second. There's three
teams in the AFC and then everybody else like that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's just how it is.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And we are in that everybody else category until we
prove otherwise. And last year we were near the top
of that everybody else category, I felt, but we still
were in the everybody else category. But that's why I
think this whole like, oh, you gotta tear it down
and start over it, Like no, that's how the conference
works right now? Man, are the Chargers gonna tear it
down and restart. No, they're not going to will the
Texans after they get shellacked next week by the Chiefs. No,
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they're not going to do that because you can either
be the Chiefs and the Chargers or the twenty twenty
three Dolphins, or you can be the Cleveland Browns or
the New York Jets or the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Which, by the way, something else.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That is sticking in my craw this weekend is all
like there is a huge faction of Dolphins fans on
social media who only tweet their misery.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, Mike Rabels in the AFC East, now we better
go cry, like what are you doing? Dude?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
They won four games last year. Your quarterback is seven
and zer against that team. I know Mike Rabel is
a good coach. I think he's a great coach. Actually,
I think he's gonna be do really well in New England.
I think Drake May has a chance to be pretty good.
But that's the worst roster in the NFL by far.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So what are we doing? Like, do something else? Man?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
If this just makes you miserable, I don't understand that.
And we're gonna be just fine, Like the Dolphins are
gonna be just fine. Now they're not gonna be Buffalo,
then why say you're just fine. I'm not talking about
like winning championship, but they're not gonna like fall back
into the basement. They have too good of a quarterback
for that situation to happen. So those are some takeaways there.
Justin Herbert four picks, his passer rating was less than
a half of what two was was. I guess the
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Houston Texans, So better start the segments talking about how
the Chargers have to change quarterbacks, right. Ravens and Steelers
game was was pretty one sided. The Steelers were always frauds.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We knew that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You knew that if you're a drive time fan. But man,
they were just going through the motions back there. They
had some you know some There was some unsavory comments
coming out during their losing streak from players talking about
effort level and who's in it and who's not. And that
was just a ship that was sinking very very fast.
And it reminds me of this debate about Mike Tomlin.
One of my my buddies, John Ledyard is he runs
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a Steelers podcast. He used to work for Peter Report
for the Buccaneers. He's one of the original Draft Network founders.
He is very adamant that Mike Tomlin is a very
overrated head coach. And I saw him debating some people,
some some you know, uh, who was it, Dan Orlovsky, No,
it was It was so many big at ESPN that
he was going back and forth with and they were like, yeah,
I kinda I kind of see it, are great Rosenthals,
he it was, and they were like, yeah, I kind
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of see it that way too. And it's just like
this elite mediocrity does that track for you guys, Like
they're a team that they're gonna be in that second
tech that tier of well I just talked about Chargers, Texans,
twenty twenty three Dolphins, but they're not at the top
of that tier and they're never going to break through
into the next category until they find themselves a big
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time quarterback. When they had a big time quarterback, it
was big Ben Roethlisberger, and they their last championship was
in two thousand and eight, and so you know, I
don't I would love to have a Mike Tomlin. I
think a program disciplinarian like that, a program center who
is a disciplinarian is a good thing to have in
your building. But this Steelers team, man, I'm glad we
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get them next year. I would like to to prove
that fraud fraudulentce is that word from the Miami Dolphins.
So that was the big takeaways. That game was never
going to be close.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
JT.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Santo saw a great videographer here who went to the
Ravens last season or this season. I was texting him
and he doesn't like it when I jinxed his teams
and I was like, you guys, go win that game
by three touchdowns. And I'm kind of mad that they
kneeled the ball inside of ten yard line under a
minute to go. That could have made it a three
touchdown game. But that's just for my own vanity purposes.
And then with the Ravens, like Lamar is just as
good as anybody. And remember, like I want everybody to
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remember right now, what the narrative is on Lamar Jackson.
Sixteen points per game in the playoffs, he six in
the six games, he's like two and four. Whatever the
record is, Just wait what he's twenty seven, twenty eight.
It's all gonna end this year and no one's gonna
care about that, and that's something I think everyone should
keep an eye on because we're gonna talk about Jordan
Love and we talked about Justin Herbert and obviously two
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was in that category. Now there's a lot of really
good quarterbacks that haven't had playoff success because guess what,
it's really really hard to win at this stage. It's
I mean, the wildcard round often comes down to your draw.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Who you got.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know, we got the Chiefs, we got the world
champs and minus twenty five degree with their last year,
you know, bad draw there and the Broncos and Bill's
game I have. This is where my notes kind of
got more extensive. The Broncos. I thought, actually, let's go
ahead and take our break right there, come back and
do the other games on the other side. That's next
Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you
by Auto Nation. So Broncos and Bill's turned into a laugher,
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weird surprise, Shocked, couldn't believe it. I did think it
was impressive how the Broncos stole that possession in the
first half with a fake punt against a team where
it's like fourth and medium at around midfield. Kind of
a house money game, and you weren't aware of like
a possible route from your gunner against a what you
call the jammer, the guys who play on the outside
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against those gunners. I thought that was kind of strange,
but I just noted that in this time of year,
you know, the margins get tighter, creating short fields, and
special teams plays can make the difference. And it got
me thinking about the Dolphins and like, in each of
our narrow losses to the Buffalo Bills, you're really just
one special teams play away, right, And go figure that
in two of those last three games they had against
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us where they narrowly beat us, what do they get
besides was it a ninety four yard Deontay Hardy punt
return touchdown when Cameron Good was in the gap to
make a play and then his leg blew up. Sorry,
you know, if you don't laugh, it's it's tragedy or
whatever they say.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And then how about the other one? Is a sixty
one yard field goal to win a game? You know?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Like it just if you can generate a splash play
on special teams, it can swing these these big games.
And for years, the Dolphins special teams have ranked bottom three,
four five of the league. And what was the last
you know, splash team we had a special team. But
the last time we had a splash play on special
teams was the Jets game, and you won that game
because you got that splash play. Most likely, if you
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get a splash play against the Cardinals, against the Bills,
against the Colts, you would have won those games and
you'd be playing right now, or maybe you would have
played this past weekend. So you know, the news that
came across that Danny Crossman and both Wes Welker were
let go. The Danny cross won. You know, I love coach,
he was a really really good dude, But that seemed
like it was long, long, long overdue. And I think
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the last big special teams play we made, you know,
I don't count a muff punt against the Titans last
year on Monday Night, was the blocked punt that Andrew
van ginkl Jalen Phillips block punt touchdown return against the
Bears in twenty twenty two. I think it was like,
you know, if you can get those in big games,
it could separate you in tight, close games. So I
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also noted that in these big time games, which playoff
games or you know, must win regular season games, teams
typically make mistakes early. To me, it's about managing those mistakes,
weathering the storm, and then capitalizing when the other team
makes the mistake because we in the first quarter of
those games put ourselves behind the eight ball and have
to play catch up the rest of the game. It
happened all year last year, in that Eagles game, in
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that Chiefs game, in the Bills game, they scored on
the opening their opening drive after to or through a pick.
You know, like it's just that same formula, and we
got to find a way to start faster and to
be prepared coming into the game rather than have to
take a quarter to quarter and a half two quarters
to settle into a football game. I think I think
to do that, I think Miami has to find a
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way to emulate difficult situations because the thing I just
talked about is an element of being a tough football team.
You know, we used to get that in training camp
with the weather. It was brutal. It was nobody wanted
to practice in Miami. And while I think that too,
a day's for twenty one straight days is a good
way to manufacture your own December swoons.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Right, those are only two thousands football teams.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We can do a hell of a lot more than
what we've been doing with all these you know, vet
rest days and hour and forty minute practices, where if
we do what we're supposed to do, we can get
out of the early like no, strain a little bit
and make it harder on yourself. That was my big
takeaway from how just these these little fine margins can
make a difference, not in this round so much because
there were so many mismatches, but you'll see that going
forward and the Ravens and Bills game friends, and they're
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gonna see plenty of that. I also noted that the
Broncos is a good job early and this is funny
to say this for a quarterback that had a perfect
passer rating their their cage concept. Rushing Josh was how
you have to do it. And basically your ends will
basically rush the upfield shoulder of the tackle and try
to close back in, but they're gonna they want to
be on the upfield shoulder of the quarterback, and you
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want your defensive tackles to push the pocket, but stay
and phase with with their rush, with their blocker, and
with the quarterback, and it's it basically is designed to
make that quarterback stay in the pocket and play from
that position. And there's I'm gonna start put more stuff
on bluees guy, think about educational stuff. And there's a
great article about what cage the cage concept is, like,
go ahead and throw up on blue Sky. But it
got me thinking about how each of the last three
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games he played against the Buffalo Bills, we didn't have
Chubb or Phillips and we didn't have Zach Seeler for
one of them. But the last time we did have
all three of them, we lost and s gave up
forty eight points. That was just really funny. My last
note here was you will not beat Josh Allen in
a defensive struggle. He may slump for a quarter two
if you're lucky, but you will not shut him out
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for sixty minutes. You have to do a lot more,
way more than what the Broncos offense saved. But rookie quarterback,
inexperienced team that was probably given Packers and Eagles. You know,
first off, Vic Fangio, I hate saying this, but he
was right. I mean he was right. It's a tough
pill to swallow about what he saw and what he
wanted to get away from here. And of course his
head was always in phillies, so I kind of hate
him for that. But he was right about his evaluations here,
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just about the personnel, but about the way, you know,
the way things were, you know, party boys and everything
he talked about was not a winning culture at least
what he observed. What he say this year play out
with you know, late to meetings and lack of accountability.
The coach and the GM told you as much. Now
they have a chance to change it, but they have
to take ownership of that. Now is back to this game.
Putting that quarterback in a blender was really impressive. Jordan
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Love was terrible in this game, and they had him confused.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I also noted that Tucker Craft ran two tight end sneaks.
We really got to find a way to make third
and one or less an auto convert. And I realize
that our quarterback limits our options in that sense. But
Durham Smith and the sneak a couple of years ago.
It's why I'm pro a Trey Lance or a Justin
Fields or a Jalen Milroe to develop their skill set
as a quarterback but also be a third and one
option off the bench in the running game. I just
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feel like you have to find a way to get
those conversions because these teams can do that. We really
struggle on those third and one situations. And I think
it's the quarterback more than anything else. It isn't just
the offensive line for the Eagles. And when you see
this too, because you're gonna see all these teams built
in the trenches. Like this year that might be the case,
but in years past, the Niners, the Bengals, you know,
teams with banged up, bad offensive lines have gone deep.
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So I hate when everyone's like this is what you
have to do to be a championship team. It changes
literally every single year. What the Eagles are. Yes, they
are a great offensive line. They're just a really good
team that can morph and beat you whatever kind of
game you want to play. They have enough winning plays
to beat you. And then I this is the last
two notes here, I'm gonna this is gonna, you know,
delve into the Bucks and Commander's game. I love what
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McVeigh and Matt Lafleura have done and the packers got
their butts handed to them. But what they've done to
add a power comp component to an offense that's very
similar to ours.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You know you have the vertical and horizontal stretch where
you run these vertical routes, you have deep crossing routes.
It's supposed to expand the defense in multiple ways, defend
every blade of grass. And wouldn't it make sense because
you're getting them running vertically, you're getting them running horizontally,
but also that vertical drop they're playing on their heel, right,
So what would pair better to that than having a
downhill freight tram like a Josh Jacobs or like a
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Kyne Williams or you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You know, Christian McCaffrey is definitely good enough to be
in that category. He can do whatever you want him
to do, But he's a unicorn in a back and
I don't expect you to get that type of talent.
But like a big, bruising, punishing back that can run
inside zone, that can run counter, that can run you know,
gap and power, I think it's I think it's very
very important that Dolphins make that punt that counter this
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year We'll talk more about that here in just the
next in the next Game.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I do want to do this on a future podcast.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I'm not gonna do it right NOWX don't have time
to get into it, but I'd be curious to see
the records of quarterbacks like age maybe twenty seven and
below in the playoffs, because Justin Herbert doesn't have a
playoff win yet, and Jordan Love is one and two
and just got his butt kicked butt kicked, and the
talking points around those players are gonna be probably harsher
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than they should be, which is just how I feel
about this stuff in general. Last game, Bucks and Commanders,
and this is the biggest point I wanted to make
of the entire thing that pairs off of that that
Lafleur and McVeigh comment. The Bucks went from last last
year and rushing yards per attempt and rushing yards per
game this year. They they were third and fourth in
the NFL in those categories, and the only changes were
at center, where they replaced Ryan Jensen, who was like
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not even not Hall of Fame, but he's all very good,
who was injured in the last couple of years. So
it wasn't necessarily Ryan Jensen, but they replaced him with
Graham Barton, a rookie. They took him the first round, which,
by the way, all these fans that think that they
know more than the team, like Chop Robinson's a better
draft pick than Graham Barton, bar nun so shut up
about that. And then a fifth round rookie running back
in Bucky Irving, who was the best rookie running back
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in the NFL. So that's kind of a slight to
him to call him that, but it is what he was.
The real change was incorporating counter to a wide zone scheme.
You heard Chris collins Worth talk about it all night long.
Liam Cohen, their offensive coordinator, said it was because the
offensive lineman they had were good at it, so they
incorporated it. And we're able to get to six seven
different versions of counter to go off of that wide
zone game, and you could see the way it creates
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leverage advantages and get that speed to the perimeter for
Bucky Irving, like, it's a beautiful way to do it.
And they have those different variations and they just kept
getting better at it as they worked at it and
went along. So the Dolphins have to find a way
to become a team that can do that, a team
that can be fungible in the running game, attack and
approach things differently when things are going your way. Also,
I just love the commander's fourth down approach in that game, like, Hey,
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if we get down here twice and we go for
it both times and miss once, that's seven points. That's
more than kicking two field goals. I like the math
on that as a notorious not a math guy. And
then my last point, Diami Brown was on my free
agent list of guys I'm interested in. After watching that game,
he vaults very high to the top of that list.
He fits the Crabs Moniker Young hungry. First contract didn't
go how you wanted it to. Now you have something
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to prove in the second contract. Diami Brown would make
a lot of sense, I think for a receiver. Here
for your Miami Dolphins last break right there, we're gonna
come back and talk about the incumbents and the guys,
the unproven players on the roster who could shore up
needs that you have. Will also do our first mock
off season all that next Draft Time podcast, your host
Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation. Oh boy,
(23:57):
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that as one of the best shows I've ever seen
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Speaker 2 (24:06):
Life, really really really good.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
All right, let's go ahead and close the podcast up here,
unproven players on the roster who could shore up needs.
I wanted to do this my biggest need, but man,
there are a lot of positions of need that don't
really have it. I mean, you know, I suppose this
is going to be contradictory, and it's always kind of
fascinating to me how a player arrives. We talk about,
you know, their work all spring, all summer, then they
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go on the practice squad for the entire year and
become completely forgotten about. Like my example is Andrew Meyer,
who's actually not even a practice squad guy. He's on
the roster. Does anybody remember that. I know, Chris greerminded
you of that. He's been an active all year, but
that obviously tells you something, right, They don't want to
open him up to the risk of becoming available on
the open market. And as much as I liked his
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camp and preseason tape, like this is a UTEP kid
who has zero NFL snaps? Are you really going to
take me seriously if I tell you that he's a
solution on the interior of the offensive line, No, you're not.
But if I give you Patrick McMorris, you probably think, well, yeah,
of course he was a draft pick and he had
tangible tape in the preseason. Spoiler, he's going to be
in this list. So let's look at the incumbents here.
You will get no greater boost to your roster than
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hitting on these guys. And look, I still think that
Greer has done a really good job with draft picks early.
He's done a good job getting free agents here. I
think he's done brilliantly in the execution of trades. Now,
where you can knock the lopsidness of this roster, you
can certainly drill the middle rounds that have been well
a dearth for you quite frankly really since the whole
thing began. Which is funny to me because you used
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to be able to set your watch to guys like
you know, Rashad Jones, the original fifth rounder, Bobby McCain,
Andrew van Ginkel. Hell, even brief contributors like Tony Lippett
and Jay a Jay, But I will agree that Cam Smith,
Channing Tyndall, Eric Azukama, those were major, major, major misses.
You're never going to bat a thousand, But imagine if
those picks, who are all in the range of guys
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you expect to contribute right, second, third, fourth round, if
they worked out, we would have had a solid backup
in a position that has endured plenty of injuries. With
the wide receiver room and Eric Azuokama. Lord knows we
needed the number two linebacker for a while now. Channing
Tyndall and Cam Smith sure would have been nice to
have the contributor out there with all the games that
Kendall Fuller missed this year. But that's where this team
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has missed development of mid round picks and late rounders alike.
To give you cheap depth, we've had to sign depth
at the cost of Saran Neil. I mean, Jordan Poyer
is a starter OBJ at receiver. For depth, I think
you get what I'm getting at here. So ahead of
a bunch of draft picks on Day two and Day three,
you have this year, which by the way, you have
one in the first round, one the second round, you're
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gonna have one in the third round. You're gonna have
two in the fourth round because the Christian Wilkins compick
is gonna drop back to the fourth round because he
didn't play twenty five percent of the of his snaps
this year. What a dumb rule. They still get him,
We still lost him. Why does that matter? I hate
that rule? And then two picks in the fifth round,
no picks in the sixth round, and then three picks
in the seventh round.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Is that right? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So you look at that and I kind of hope
they can find a way to add a couple more.
I think they need to go into this draft with
a lot of picks to execute a successful draft while
batting four hundred, because that's a reasonable expectation. And if
you go seven hundred, that's awesome, that's even better, obviously,
But I'd like to protect myself with multiple picks, and
that's probably the best executed by going back in round
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one and getting more picks. That's getting further into the weeds.
Before that, we will have guys that will have been
in the program that you have that you hope can
take a year two or year three jump the way
Austin Jackson did versus what Leam Mikenberg didn't do right.
But see that there is emblematic of the issue this
roster building resume has had. We get it from early picks,
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but mid and later round picks just have not. You
literally have one contributor from the twenty three to twenty
four classes.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's Devon ah Chan.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
You know, Cam Good, valuable special teams guy, and shoot,
maybe he's even in this list. He's the best option
over Cam Smith. Elijah Higgins would have been that, but
he that was my guy back when we drafted him.
Ryan Hayes, I don't think so ee. I think it's
over there. Skyler Long long gone. But I mean your
third rounders and beyond twenty twenty one were Hunter Long,
Larnel Coleman, Jared Doakes. Twenty twenty it was Brandon Jones,
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Solomon Kinley, Jason Strobridge, Curtis Weaver, Blake Ferguson, Malcolm Perry.
You need to start getting something from some of these
guys at some point. And I thought, while this team
was winning eleven games and putting six players in the
Pro Bowl, it was fine. But now for a team
that gets depleted down the stretch, each of the last
three years. Look no further than that for why you've
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been in the position to sign Justin Houston and Bruce Irvin,
or to start Jackson Carmen, or to play Duke Riley
in a big spot. With a massive preamble out of
the way, here are the players at each position that
I think could help you reduce your level of needs.
Patrick McMorris, the way he plays instinctually and the physicality
of how he plays. He has what I was talking
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about earlier with that dogged mentality, come off a pile
and slap your helmet like you cannot contain you're excitement
for the play that you just made, for the physicality
that you just issued. I think Patrick McMorris special Teams
eight for sure, possibly dime safety, a depth piece that
is you know, can come off the bench in a
pinch and play for you on the interior offensive line.
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I thought Andrew Meyer was a possible backup center for
the Dolphins this year had something happened to Aaron Brewer.
Luckily he played every single step and didn't have to
do that. But Andrew Meyer, I thought was a player
that in the preseason had some good movement skills. He
seemed to understand the communication of pass protection when it
came to his job in the middle of the offensive line.
So I think he has a chance to kind of
maybe solidify the back end of your interior offensive line.
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Maybe he can make Liam Eichenberg expendable. And I like
Liam for the for an eighth ninth offensive lineman as
a guy that can play all five positions and will
play hurt no questions asked. Tight End Julian Hill doesn't
really belong here, but I think there's a lot more
to come with this player. I still love him as
your third wide tight end on the roster. That's why
I hope he becomes this year. We'll talk more about
that receiver d s Gridge, the fact that they trusted
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him to play snaps in Seattle over the league, Washington
said a lot. I know Maleiku was coming off an injury,
but Deed had just gotten here and he kind of
fits the mold of what you want in terms of
physical good ball carrier can block on the edge, and
then Grant Dubos and Taj Washington are other options. Taj
is an interesting player because of how well he can
get vertically, and we didn't see him basically beyond like
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OTA's last year.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
But the pickens there are kind of slam. Those are
your options at receiver an offensive tackle. I think Kean
Smith is going to be a fit here and maybe
a death piece for you for some time. I really
like his game in terms of how he fits in
the system. He's come a long way in the last
couple of years. Braiden and he was also a guy
they wanted to convert to guard last year and didn't
do that, but they were doing that before he got hurt.
I thought he's an option in that position. And then
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Braiden Daniels, the guy they added off the practice squad
a couple weeks back, is a possible option there off
the edge, Cam Good Grayson Murphy's the guy that I
really want to focus on. I think that his pass
rush skill, the ability to run games. I think he's
a great fit in this defense, and he was popping
off all through camp early on. Gets hurt, doesn't get
a chance to come back and play this year. Keep
an eye on Grace and Murphy next year. Obviously, Mohammed
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Kamara is a player that didn't get a lot of
playing time.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I think he has a ways to go.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And then Tyas Bowser doesn't belong in this group, but
I think that he is a really good fit as
like your fifth or sixth edge off the end there
that can play some rundowns and give your pass which
was a break. And then at cornerback Ethan Bonner and
Storm Duck doesn't belong the same way because he's played.
But if we can get one of those guys up
to like NFL caliber player like that, that would be
a huge boon. As they're both undrafted guys in the
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left outs tight end. I'm not put in Tanner, Connor
and here because you can't develop if you can't stay healthy.
We'll see you about Hayden, Rucie Jackson, Carmen no I
said Ryan Hayes, no Neil Ferrell defensive tackle. No. I
didn't like it this year Channing and Eric Azukama at
linebacker receiver also respectively. No I did a mock off
season once Blue Sky, We're gonna run through it real quick.
I signed left guard Tevin Jenkins, a physical tone center
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from the Chicago Bears who I think is a great
fit in the system. Trey Lance, I want to do
like a multiple year contract for a developmental backup quarterback
like Trey Lance, and get him in the program, get
him learning, get him feeling comfortable. You're the backup to
two up. You're gonna play. We need you, We're gonna
develop you. You're gonna be our short yard solution in
the running game as well. Free set Darius Washington from
the Ravens. Did you watch that game? The way he hits,
the way he flies, the way he moves, That's the
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guy I want in the post for us next year.
Nick Westbrook a keene a six foot three receiver. I
think we need that. He was a touchdown maker for
a horrible Titans offense this year. And then Derek Nandi,
the rotational piece inside for the Chiefs. And I do
think Kalais will come back. So that said my third
defensive tackle in there. And then I drafted Tyler Warren,
the Penn State tight end. I took Shamar Stewart, the
defensive lineman from Texas A and M even though I
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know he's not going to go that late, but just
for the fun of it, he's a hell of a player.
Tes Johnson in the second round for a trade that
I got for Tyreek Hill, Lathan Ransom, the safety from
Ohio State that I love, and then an Ohio State
offensive guard Donovan Jackson. So I get Tua and lance
A chan and right, and my running backs Waddle, Nick
westbrook A, Keene tes Johnson, Malik Washington, my receivers, John
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news Smith, Tyler Warren, Julian Hill. What a great tight
end room that is. My tackles are Patrick Paul, Austin
Jackson and key On Smith. My interior offensive line is
Tevin Jenkins, Aarn Brewer, Isaiah Win, Donovan Jackson, Liam Eichenberg
and Andrew Mayer. I keep saying Mayor Meyer and then
Kalais and Zach Steeler with Shamar Stewart who can play
defensive tackle and edge of two ninety Deshan Han, Benito Jones.
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I get JP back, I get chopped or chubb back.
I've got chop Bowser, Quentin Bell, Mohammed Kamara, linebackers Jordan
Brooks and Tyrrel Dotson, corners Ramsey Fuller, Cohu.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
The same room.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And then my safeties are our Darius Washington and Leathan Ransom.
I don't love the tackle position. I gotta get deeper there.
I probably need a vet there. I don't love my
linebacker room either, but it's a good start there for
the off season. All right, let's go ahead and get
the heck out of here. We'll see you guys on Wednesday.
I think the quarterback portion of the previews is going
to kick.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Off on Wednesday. We'll see in the meantime.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
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What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, well,
it was a fun weekend. Even though the Dolphins did
not play football over the weekend, we got to watch
plenty of football and I got lots of time with
the family. Hey, Sundays off in January in South Florida.
I know nobody wants to hear this, but they ain't
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all bad. We'll talk about which incumbents on the Dolphins
roster can stand to make this team better next year
that are not impact players right now, We'll talk about
the weekend that was in wild card weekend, and I'll
hit you guys with mock off season one point zero.
And this is like the crudest one we'll do because
I haven't even come close to completing my film study
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on all the prospects and freegans to be. So we'll
do that to kick off the off season here for
you guys, and I think Wednesday will get into the
position by a position review as we head into the
off season. From the Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist
Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
This is the Drive Time Podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Ye so yeah again, the reason I mentioned how nice
it is to have a Sunday off this time of
year in South Florida. So a lot of you probably
are from here, a lot of you probably are not
from here. But we bear really like seven or maybe
(01:28):
eight months of kind of hell, like the heat down here.
It's pretty pretty unenjoyable for most of the year. But
there's like a four month window where we have the
best weather on the planet where it's like sixty to
seventy degrees really all day every day, sometimes up to
seventy five eighty, maybe a little bit blowout in the
certain cold fronts. But took the kids to a world
of beer. We live like right across from this huge
(01:52):
commercial complex full of restaurants, and it has like hewey magoos,
It has duck Donuts, it has Bubbakups, it has Zuru Ramen.
There's a dumpling panda in there. There's a flan Agains,
there's a five guys I get my haircut over there.
There's a casino Maderna. We walked over there before the
Broncos and Bill's game, and the kids were just happy
as can be. Daughter riding the scooter and got a
(02:14):
brunch burger from World of Beer, which is one of
my favorite burgers there is in South Florida, which I
know World of Beer is a chain, but you know, hey,
I'm weak, but yeah, man, it was just a really
nice kind of dial things back. And that was despite
being sick too, So I hope your weekends were as
good as mine. And I didn't realize this as I
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was doing it. I always talk about the playoff games
here on the show, but I was taking notes pretty
heavily throughout each of those games and trying to find
ways to tie what you were seeing on the field
back to the Miami Dolphins, as we do this time
of year for every single playoff round, or I should
say every year this time of year. And you know,
the last couple of years, we had wild card games
of our own to recap and that would give us
(02:57):
another week of content. But now I have the full
wild card slate for the first time since twenty twenty
one to break down and look at it through a
dolphin's lens. And I'm sitting there taking these extensive notes,
fighting some congestion and in between, you know, playing with
my daughter and my son. I taught my daughter this dap,
you know, the tap up where you go high low,
low high, then you pound it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Pretty excited about that development.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But as I'm doing all this, I'm like, man, I
have like a lot of freaking notes here. I just
kind of I kind of just wrote a podcast script.
So I want to talk about some of the takeaways
I have for you guys. And first, just off the
top four and one so far, we'll have the Rams
and Vikings tonight. I'm excited to watch that ball game
that brings us to one hundred and one or two
hundred and one wins this year, two hundred and one
and seventy six overall. We took the Texans, we took
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the Ravens, we took the Bills, We did take the
Packers wamp wamp and took the Commanders in that really
fun game that kind of save what was otherwise a
boring weekend. However, all of that said will be about
four minutes into the show here. All for a preamble
is to number one. First off the top, A man,
how great was that first game?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
How great was that?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Dude? I was like a pig inn s, if you
know what I'm saying, watching everybody's favorite quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Except for the Dolphins fans.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And look like I even told someone of this on
Twitter or whatever social media platform was. I forget, probably
probably Blue Sky about how I don't even think Herbert
is a bad quarterback. I probably sound like that because
I have basically made myself on that platform into the
counter to what people do with Tua, which I think
(04:35):
is completely unfair. And that's why I go so hard
on the guy, and I do think he's vastly overrated.
I have clips on my Twitter from back when I
used to do this stuff where I would clip, you know,
watch every single college prospect every weekend and put clips
on Twitter. And that's kind of how I got popular
in the first place. And you know, trying to do
more of that on Blue Sky. But I would do
the clips of college quarterbacks, not twenty nineteen quarterback class
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or twenty twenty quarterback class, I should say. And I'll
never forget the Arizon State game when Justin Herbert had
big moment on top of big moment against the Herm
Edwards defense that clowned him. And that was kind of
what he was in all those big games. And that's
what he's been for the Chargers. No One seems to remember.
It was twenty twenty one. They were playing at the
Houston Texans. This is when the like the David Colvey
Houston Texans right, a team that won three or four
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games and was happy to win three or four games,
and he threw a stinker, had a bad pick six
in that game. I remember watching because I was on
the plane ride back from my hometown and we were
playing the Saints on Monday night the next night, and
the Dolphins needed a Chargers loss in that spot, and
the Patriots I think needed to lose a game and
they did to the Buffalo Bills. And it was a
really good plane ride watching those games transpire, and like,
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that's who he's been, and that's what he was in
this game.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
He doesn't see defense as well. You know, let's actually.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Go let's get into all this first, because I don't
want to just make this justin Herbert podcast, but Chargers
Texans to kick things off here. Look, my first takeaway
was that you can't not have weapons unless you're Patrick Mahomes,
Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, because Josh Allen just went
rough shot again in the wild card round without having
really any star talent around him in terms of skill players.
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Lamar Jackson just feasted on the freaking moribund Pittsburgh Steelers
without Jay Flowers and then Patrick Mahomes the last couple
of years has won super Bowls without you know, well,
he's got Travis Kelcey, but now he's got just the
corpse of Kelsey and nothing else much around him besides well,
I guess Rashid Rice was there, Hollywood Brown is now
there and Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But in the past he's done it right.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
He's proven that it's the old Tom Brady with Rashe
Caldwell and freaking you know, Troy Brown is a good player.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But you get the point.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
These elite, elite quarterbacks can survive not having weapons. C J.
Stroud and Justin Herbert cannot. That's the takeaway. And neither
could tow a tongue bai looa. This is what the
second tier quarterbacks look like without weapons. I mean, to
a people thought that he couldn't play the position because
when he had Isaiah Ford and DeVante Parker and Mike
Kasicki's his top weapons, it didn't look as good. I mean,
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you can separate the individual, and I always thought too
like made that offense, you know, basically at an FCS
offense functional, but especially in the case here with the Chargers,
where this quarterback has to see it in order to
throw it. I don't know who the hell's telling you people,
you people that this guy is like an elite processor
and anticipator.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I never have gotten that. That's why I didn't like
his game. You guys know how I roll. That's the
number one thing to me with quarterbacks. There's a reason
why I thought he was overrated. He threw two balls
in the first half where his arm was hit as
he threw. And that's another deficiency where he doesn't sense
or prepare or move or feel pressure like he's got.
He is really good when he does. It reminds me
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of Ryan Tannehill. It's he's when he can get out
and get on a straight line, it's very good.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He's very fast.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But when it comes to like quick movements in the
pocket and sensing things, he doesn't do that. And the
Texans had six passes defense in the first half, and
I'm sitting there thinking like this is gonna turn bad
for him because he keeps on throwing these balls into
these windows that are not there. The ball keeps getting
tipped up into the air and he's throwing them late,
and that's why he's getting these pds. I also note
the something you can take away from this game from
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a Dolphins perspective. You gotta have temperature changing defenders. Man
watch the way. And this might be too late, you know,
after the game's already occurred, but if you guys were
watching it with great detail, Kamari Lassiter and Kaylen Bullock
are dogs man, young players, hungry players coming off pile,
slapping their heads like Jalen Waddle does me he makes
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a big catch like this me just me absolute psycho pass.
You have to have that. And the Dolphins I thought
lacked that outside of like Jordan Brooks and Zach Seeler
and like don't I don't want to get into like
telling who was not a dog, but we don't. We
just didn't have enough, right because there's there are guys
in this team that are like that, but there just
wasn't enough. Like look at Derwin James, you know, or
Dayone Henley for the Chargers on the other side, same
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exact thing. The Chargers average three point seven yards per
play in the first half of that game.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
CJ. Stroud didn't look good for most of the game.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Nico Collins kind of came to life and he was
able to hit some of those inbreaking you know, rpo hits.
But by and large, these are two teams that the
doll they're not any better than the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And look, we were bad this year.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I thought there was too many new things that came
up for the Dolphins this year that we just were
not acceptable. And then the quarterback misses six games, which
is really the only difference between us being in this
game versus those two teams being in this game. But
this is a clear indicator. We'll get to the other
two AFC games here in just a second. There's three
teams in the AFC and then everybody else like that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's just how it is.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And we are in that everybody else category until we
prove otherwise. And last year we were near the top
of that everybody else category, I felt, but we still
were in the everybody else category. But that's why I
think this whole like, oh, you gotta tear it down
and start over it, Like no, that's how the conference
works right now? Man, are the Chargers gonna tear it
down and restart. No, they're not going to will the
Texans after they get shellacked next week by the Chiefs. No,
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they're not going to do that because you can either
be the Chiefs and the Chargers or the twenty twenty
three Dolphins, or you can be the Cleveland Browns or
the New York Jets or the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Which, by the way, something else.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That is sticking in my craw this weekend is all
like there is a huge faction of Dolphins fans on
social media who only tweet their misery.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, Mike Rabels in the AFC East, now we better
go cry, like what are you doing? Dude?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
They won four games last year. Your quarterback is seven
and zer against that team. I know Mike Rabel is
a good coach. I think he's a great coach. Actually,
I think he's gonna be do really well in New England.
I think Drake May has a chance to be pretty good.
But that's the worst roster in the NFL by far.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So what are we doing? Like, do something else? Man?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
If this just makes you miserable, I don't understand that.
And we're gonna be just fine, Like the Dolphins are
gonna be just fine. Now they're not gonna be Buffalo,
then why say you're just fine. I'm not talking about
like winning championship, but they're not gonna like fall back
into the basement. They have too good of a quarterback
for that situation to happen. So those are some takeaways there.
Justin Herbert four picks, his passer rating was less than
a half of what two was was. I guess the
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Houston Texans, So better start the segments talking about how
the Chargers have to change quarterbacks, right. Ravens and Steelers
game was was pretty one sided. The Steelers were always frauds.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We knew that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You knew that if you're a drive time fan. But man,
they were just going through the motions back there. They
had some you know some There was some unsavory comments
coming out during their losing streak from players talking about
effort level and who's in it and who's not. And that
was just a ship that was sinking very very fast.
And it reminds me of this debate about Mike Tomlin.
One of my my buddies, John Ledyard is he runs
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a Steelers podcast. He used to work for Peter Report
for the Buccaneers. He's one of the original Draft Network founders.
He is very adamant that Mike Tomlin is a very
overrated head coach. And I saw him debating some people,
some some you know, uh, who was it, Dan Orlovsky, No,
it was It was so many big at ESPN that
he was going back and forth with and they were like, yeah,
I kinda I kind of see it, are great Rosenthals,
he it was, and they were like, yeah, I kind
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of see it that way too. And it's just like
this elite mediocrity does that track for you guys, Like
they're a team that they're gonna be in that second
tech that tier of well I just talked about Chargers, Texans,
twenty twenty three Dolphins, but they're not at the top
of that tier and they're never going to break through
into the next category until they find themselves a big
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time quarterback. When they had a big time quarterback, it
was big Ben Roethlisberger, and they their last championship was
in two thousand and eight, and so you know, I
don't I would love to have a Mike Tomlin. I
think a program disciplinarian like that, a program center who
is a disciplinarian is a good thing to have in
your building. But this Steelers team, man, I'm glad we
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get them next year. I would like to to prove
that fraud fraudulentce is that word from the Miami Dolphins.
So that was the big takeaways. That game was never
going to be close.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
JT.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Santo saw a great videographer here who went to the
Ravens last season or this season. I was texting him
and he doesn't like it when I jinxed his teams
and I was like, you guys, go win that game
by three touchdowns. And I'm kind of mad that they
kneeled the ball inside of ten yard line under a
minute to go. That could have made it a three
touchdown game. But that's just for my own vanity purposes.
And then with the Ravens, like Lamar is just as
good as anybody. And remember, like I want everybody to
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remember right now, what the narrative is on Lamar Jackson.
Sixteen points per game in the playoffs, he six in
the six games, he's like two and four. Whatever the
record is, Just wait what he's twenty seven, twenty eight.
It's all gonna end this year and no one's gonna
care about that, and that's something I think everyone should
keep an eye on because we're gonna talk about Jordan
Love and we talked about Justin Herbert and obviously two
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was in that category. Now there's a lot of really
good quarterbacks that haven't had playoff success because guess what,
it's really really hard to win at this stage. It's
I mean, the wildcard round often comes down to your draw.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Who you got.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know, we got the Chiefs, we got the world
champs and minus twenty five degree with their last year,
you know, bad draw there and the Broncos and Bill's
game I have. This is where my notes kind of
got more extensive. The Broncos. I thought, actually, let's go
ahead and take our break right there, come back and
do the other games on the other side. That's next
Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you
by Auto Nation. So Broncos and Bill's turned into a laugher,
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weird surprise, Shocked, couldn't believe it. I did think it
was impressive how the Broncos stole that possession in the
first half with a fake punt against a team where
it's like fourth and medium at around midfield. Kind of
a house money game, and you weren't aware of like
a possible route from your gunner against a what you
call the jammer, the guys who play on the outside
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against those gunners. I thought that was kind of strange,
but I just noted that in this time of year,
you know, the margins get tighter, creating short fields, and
special teams plays can make the difference. And it got
me thinking about the Dolphins and like, in each of
our narrow losses to the Buffalo Bills, you're really just
one special teams play away, right, And go figure that
in two of those last three games they had against
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us where they narrowly beat us, what do they get
besides was it a ninety four yard Deontay Hardy punt
return touchdown when Cameron Good was in the gap to
make a play and then his leg blew up. Sorry,
you know, if you don't laugh, it's it's tragedy or
whatever they say.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And then how about the other one? Is a sixty
one yard field goal to win a game? You know?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Like it just if you can generate a splash play
on special teams, it can swing these these big games.
And for years, the Dolphins special teams have ranked bottom three,
four five of the league. And what was the last
you know, splash team we had a special team. But
the last time we had a splash play on special
teams was the Jets game, and you won that game
because you got that splash play. Most likely, if you
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get a splash play against the Cardinals, against the Bills,
against the Colts, you would have won those games and
you'd be playing right now, or maybe you would have
played this past weekend. So you know, the news that
came across that Danny Crossman and both Wes Welker were
let go. The Danny cross won. You know, I love coach,
he was a really really good dude, But that seemed
like it was long, long, long overdue. And I think
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the last big special teams play we made, you know,
I don't count a muff punt against the Titans last
year on Monday Night, was the blocked punt that Andrew
van ginkl Jalen Phillips block punt touchdown return against the
Bears in twenty twenty two. I think it was like,
you know, if you can get those in big games,
it could separate you in tight, close games. So I
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also noted that in these big time games, which playoff
games or you know, must win regular season games, teams
typically make mistakes early. To me, it's about managing those mistakes,
weathering the storm, and then capitalizing when the other team
makes the mistake because we in the first quarter of
those games put ourselves behind the eight ball and have
to play catch up the rest of the game. It
happened all year last year, in that Eagles game, in
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that Chiefs game, in the Bills game, they scored on
the opening their opening drive after to or through a pick.
You know, like it's just that same formula, and we
got to find a way to start faster and to
be prepared coming into the game rather than have to
take a quarter to quarter and a half two quarters
to settle into a football game. I think I think
to do that, I think Miami has to find a
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way to emulate difficult situations because the thing I just
talked about is an element of being a tough football team.
You know, we used to get that in training camp
with the weather. It was brutal. It was nobody wanted
to practice in Miami. And while I think that too,
a day's for twenty one straight days is a good
way to manufacture your own December swoons.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Right, those are only two thousands football teams.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We can do a hell of a lot more than
what we've been doing with all these you know, vet
rest days and hour and forty minute practices, where if
we do what we're supposed to do, we can get
out of the early like no, strain a little bit
and make it harder on yourself. That was my big
takeaway from how just these these little fine margins can
make a difference, not in this round so much because
there were so many mismatches, but you'll see that going
forward and the Ravens and Bills game friends, and they're
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gonna see plenty of that. I also noted that the
Broncos is a good job early and this is funny
to say this for a quarterback that had a perfect
passer rating their their cage concept. Rushing Josh was how
you have to do it. And basically your ends will
basically rush the upfield shoulder of the tackle and try
to close back in, but they're gonna they want to
be on the upfield shoulder of the quarterback, and you
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want your defensive tackles to push the pocket, but stay
and phase with with their rush, with their blocker, and
with the quarterback, and it's it basically is designed to
make that quarterback stay in the pocket and play from
that position. And there's I'm gonna start put more stuff
on bluees guy, think about educational stuff. And there's a
great article about what cage the cage concept is, like,
go ahead and throw up on blue Sky. But it
got me thinking about how each of the last three
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games he played against the Buffalo Bills, we didn't have
Chubb or Phillips and we didn't have Zach Seeler for
one of them. But the last time we did have
all three of them, we lost and s gave up
forty eight points. That was just really funny. My last
note here was you will not beat Josh Allen in
a defensive struggle. He may slump for a quarter two
if you're lucky, but you will not shut him out
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for sixty minutes. You have to do a lot more,
way more than what the Broncos offense saved. But rookie quarterback,
inexperienced team that was probably given Packers and Eagles. You know,
first off, Vic Fangio, I hate saying this, but he
was right. I mean he was right. It's a tough
pill to swallow about what he saw and what he
wanted to get away from here. And of course his
head was always in phillies, so I kind of hate
him for that. But he was right about his evaluations here,
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just about the personnel, but about the way, you know,
the way things were, you know, party boys and everything
he talked about was not a winning culture at least
what he observed. What he say this year play out
with you know, late to meetings and lack of accountability.
The coach and the GM told you as much. Now
they have a chance to change it, but they have
to take ownership of that. Now is back to this game.
Putting that quarterback in a blender was really impressive. Jordan
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Love was terrible in this game, and they had him confused.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I also noted that Tucker Craft ran two tight end sneaks.
We really got to find a way to make third
and one or less an auto convert. And I realize
that our quarterback limits our options in that sense. But
Durham Smith and the sneak a couple of years ago.
It's why I'm pro a Trey Lance or a Justin
Fields or a Jalen Milroe to develop their skill set
as a quarterback but also be a third and one
option off the bench in the running game. I just
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feel like you have to find a way to get
those conversions because these teams can do that. We really
struggle on those third and one situations. And I think
it's the quarterback more than anything else. It isn't just
the offensive line for the Eagles. And when you see
this too, because you're gonna see all these teams built
in the trenches. Like this year that might be the case,
but in years past, the Niners, the Bengals, you know,
teams with banged up, bad offensive lines have gone deep.
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So I hate when everyone's like this is what you
have to do to be a championship team. It changes
literally every single year. What the Eagles are. Yes, they
are a great offensive line. They're just a really good
team that can morph and beat you whatever kind of
game you want to play. They have enough winning plays
to beat you. And then I this is the last
two notes here, I'm gonna this is gonna, you know,
delve into the Bucks and Commander's game. I love what
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McVeigh and Matt Lafleura have done and the packers got
their butts handed to them. But what they've done to
add a power comp component to an offense that's very
similar to ours.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You know you have the vertical and horizontal stretch where
you run these vertical routes, you have deep crossing routes.
It's supposed to expand the defense in multiple ways, defend
every blade of grass. And wouldn't it make sense because
you're getting them running vertically, you're getting them running horizontally,
but also that vertical drop they're playing on their heel, right,
So what would pair better to that than having a
downhill freight tram like a Josh Jacobs or like a
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Kyne Williams or you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You know, Christian McCaffrey is definitely good enough to be
in that category. He can do whatever you want him
to do, But he's a unicorn in a back and
I don't expect you to get that type of talent.
But like a big, bruising, punishing back that can run
inside zone, that can run counter, that can run you know,
gap and power, I think it's I think it's very
very important that Dolphins make that punt that counter this
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year We'll talk more about that here in just the
next in the next Game.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I do want to do this on a future podcast.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I'm not gonna do it right NOWX don't have time
to get into it, but I'd be curious to see
the records of quarterbacks like age maybe twenty seven and
below in the playoffs, because Justin Herbert doesn't have a
playoff win yet, and Jordan Love is one and two
and just got his butt kicked butt kicked, and the
talking points around those players are gonna be probably harsher
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than they should be, which is just how I feel
about this stuff in general. Last game, Bucks and Commanders,
and this is the biggest point I wanted to make
of the entire thing that pairs off of that that
Lafleur and McVeigh comment. The Bucks went from last last
year and rushing yards per attempt and rushing yards per
game this year. They they were third and fourth in
the NFL in those categories, and the only changes were
at center, where they replaced Ryan Jensen, who was like
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not even not Hall of Fame, but he's all very good,
who was injured in the last couple of years. So
it wasn't necessarily Ryan Jensen, but they replaced him with
Graham Barton, a rookie. They took him the first round, which,
by the way, all these fans that think that they
know more than the team, like Chop Robinson's a better
draft pick than Graham Barton, bar nun so shut up
about that. And then a fifth round rookie running back
in Bucky Irving, who was the best rookie running back
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in the NFL. So that's kind of a slight to
him to call him that, but it is what he was.
The real change was incorporating counter to a wide zone scheme.
You heard Chris collins Worth talk about it all night long.
Liam Cohen, their offensive coordinator, said it was because the
offensive lineman they had were good at it, so they
incorporated it. And we're able to get to six seven
different versions of counter to go off of that wide
zone game, and you could see the way it creates
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leverage advantages and get that speed to the perimeter for
Bucky Irving, like, it's a beautiful way to do it.
And they have those different variations and they just kept
getting better at it as they worked at it and
went along. So the Dolphins have to find a way
to become a team that can do that, a team
that can be fungible in the running game, attack and
approach things differently when things are going your way. Also,
I just love the commander's fourth down approach in that game, like, Hey,
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if we get down here twice and we go for
it both times and miss once, that's seven points. That's
more than kicking two field goals. I like the math
on that as a notorious not a math guy. And
then my last point, Diami Brown was on my free
agent list of guys I'm interested in. After watching that game,
he vaults very high to the top of that list.
He fits the Crabs Moniker Young hungry. First contract didn't
go how you wanted it to. Now you have something
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to prove in the second contract. Diami Brown would make
a lot of sense, I think for a receiver. Here
for your Miami Dolphins last break right there, we're gonna
come back and talk about the incumbents and the guys,
the unproven players on the roster who could shore up
needs that you have. Will also do our first mock
off season all that next Draft Time podcast, your host
Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation. Oh boy,
(23:57):
anybody watch Severance on Apple TV mayhan. Season two starts
on a Friday. As a I rewatched the first season
that as one of the best shows I've ever seen
in my entire.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Life, really really really good.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
All right, let's go ahead and close the podcast up here,
unproven players on the roster who could shore up needs.
I wanted to do this my biggest need, but man,
there are a lot of positions of need that don't
really have it. I mean, you know, I suppose this
is going to be contradictory, and it's always kind of
fascinating to me how a player arrives. We talk about,
you know, their work all spring, all summer, then they
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go on the practice squad for the entire year and
become completely forgotten about. Like my example is Andrew Meyer,
who's actually not even a practice squad guy. He's on
the roster. Does anybody remember that. I know, Chris greerminded
you of that. He's been an active all year, but
that obviously tells you something, right, They don't want to
open him up to the risk of becoming available on
the open market. And as much as I liked his
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camp and preseason tape, like this is a UTEP kid
who has zero NFL snaps? Are you really going to
take me seriously if I tell you that he's a
solution on the interior of the offensive line, No, you're not.
But if I give you Patrick McMorris, you probably think, well, yeah,
of course he was a draft pick and he had
tangible tape in the preseason. Spoiler, he's going to be
in this list. So let's look at the incumbents here.
You will get no greater boost to your roster than
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hitting on these guys. And look, I still think that
Greer has done a really good job with draft picks early.
He's done a good job getting free agents here. I
think he's done brilliantly in the execution of trades. Now,
where you can knock the lopsidness of this roster, you
can certainly drill the middle rounds that have been well
a dearth for you quite frankly really since the whole
thing began. Which is funny to me because you used
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to be able to set your watch to guys like
you know, Rashad Jones, the original fifth rounder, Bobby McCain,
Andrew van Ginkel. Hell, even brief contributors like Tony Lippett
and Jay a Jay, But I will agree that Cam Smith,
Channing Tyndall, Eric Azukama, those were major, major, major misses.
You're never going to bat a thousand, But imagine if
those picks, who are all in the range of guys
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you expect to contribute right, second, third, fourth round, if
they worked out, we would have had a solid backup
in a position that has endured plenty of injuries. With
the wide receiver room and Eric Azuokama. Lord knows we
needed the number two linebacker for a while now. Channing
Tyndall and Cam Smith sure would have been nice to
have the contributor out there with all the games that
Kendall Fuller missed this year. But that's where this team
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has missed development of mid round picks and late rounders alike.
To give you cheap depth, we've had to sign depth
at the cost of Saran Neil. I mean, Jordan Poyer
is a starter OBJ at receiver. For depth, I think
you get what I'm getting at here. So ahead of
a bunch of draft picks on Day two and Day three,
you have this year, which by the way, you have
one in the first round, one the second round, you're
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gonna have one in the third round. You're gonna have
two in the fourth round because the Christian Wilkins compick
is gonna drop back to the fourth round because he
didn't play twenty five percent of the of his snaps
this year. What a dumb rule. They still get him,
We still lost him. Why does that matter? I hate
that rule? And then two picks in the fifth round,
no picks in the sixth round, and then three picks
in the seventh round.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Is that right? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So you look at that and I kind of hope
they can find a way to add a couple more.
I think they need to go into this draft with
a lot of picks to execute a successful draft while
batting four hundred, because that's a reasonable expectation. And if
you go seven hundred, that's awesome, that's even better, obviously,
But I'd like to protect myself with multiple picks, and
that's probably the best executed by going back in round
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one and getting more picks. That's getting further into the weeds.
Before that, we will have guys that will have been
in the program that you have that you hope can
take a year two or year three jump the way
Austin Jackson did versus what Leam Mikenberg didn't do right.
But see that there is emblematic of the issue this
roster building resume has had. We get it from early picks,
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but mid and later round picks just have not. You
literally have one contributor from the twenty three to twenty
four classes.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's Devon ah Chan.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
You know, Cam Good, valuable special teams guy, and shoot,
maybe he's even in this list. He's the best option
over Cam Smith. Elijah Higgins would have been that, but
he that was my guy back when we drafted him.
Ryan Hayes, I don't think so ee. I think it's
over there. Skyler Long long gone. But I mean your
third rounders and beyond twenty twenty one were Hunter Long,
Larnel Coleman, Jared Doakes. Twenty twenty it was Brandon Jones,
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Solomon Kinley, Jason Strobridge, Curtis Weaver, Blake Ferguson, Malcolm Perry.
You need to start getting something from some of these
guys at some point. And I thought, while this team
was winning eleven games and putting six players in the
Pro Bowl, it was fine. But now for a team
that gets depleted down the stretch, each of the last
three years. Look no further than that for why you've
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been in the position to sign Justin Houston and Bruce Irvin,
or to start Jackson Carmen, or to play Duke Riley
in a big spot. With a massive preamble out of
the way, here are the players at each position that
I think could help you reduce your level of needs.
Patrick McMorris, the way he plays instinctually and the physicality
of how he plays. He has what I was talking
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about earlier with that dogged mentality, come off a pile
and slap your helmet like you cannot contain you're excitement
for the play that you just made, for the physicality
that you just issued. I think Patrick McMorris special Teams
eight for sure, possibly dime safety, a depth piece that
is you know, can come off the bench in a
pinch and play for you on the interior offensive line.
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I thought Andrew Meyer was a possible backup center for
the Dolphins this year had something happened to Aaron Brewer.
Luckily he played every single step and didn't have to
do that. But Andrew Meyer, I thought was a player
that in the preseason had some good movement skills. He
seemed to understand the communication of pass protection when it
came to his job in the middle of the offensive line.
So I think he has a chance to kind of
maybe solidify the back end of your interior offensive line.
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Maybe he can make Liam Eichenberg expendable. And I like
Liam for the for an eighth ninth offensive lineman as
a guy that can play all five positions and will
play hurt no questions asked. Tight End Julian Hill doesn't
really belong here, but I think there's a lot more
to come with this player. I still love him as
your third wide tight end on the roster. That's why
I hope he becomes this year. We'll talk more about
that receiver d s Gridge, the fact that they trusted
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him to play snaps in Seattle over the league, Washington
said a lot. I know Maleiku was coming off an injury,
but Deed had just gotten here and he kind of
fits the mold of what you want in terms of
physical good ball carrier can block on the edge, and
then Grant Dubos and Taj Washington are other options. Taj
is an interesting player because of how well he can
get vertically, and we didn't see him basically beyond like
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OTA's last year.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
But the pickens there are kind of slam. Those are
your options at receiver an offensive tackle. I think Kean
Smith is going to be a fit here and maybe
a death piece for you for some time. I really
like his game in terms of how he fits in
the system. He's come a long way in the last
couple of years. Braiden and he was also a guy
they wanted to convert to guard last year and didn't
do that, but they were doing that before he got hurt.
I thought he's an option in that position. And then
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Braiden Daniels, the guy they added off the practice squad
a couple weeks back, is a possible option there off
the edge, Cam Good Grayson Murphy's the guy that I
really want to focus on. I think that his pass
rush skill, the ability to run games. I think he's
a great fit in this defense, and he was popping
off all through camp early on. Gets hurt, doesn't get
a chance to come back and play this year. Keep
an eye on Grace and Murphy next year. Obviously, Mohammed
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Kamara is a player that didn't get a lot of
playing time.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I think he has a ways to go.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And then Tyas Bowser doesn't belong in this group, but
I think that he is a really good fit as
like your fifth or sixth edge off the end there
that can play some rundowns and give your pass which
was a break. And then at cornerback Ethan Bonner and
Storm Duck doesn't belong the same way because he's played.
But if we can get one of those guys up
to like NFL caliber player like that, that would be
a huge boon. As they're both undrafted guys in the
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left outs tight end. I'm not put in Tanner, Connor
and here because you can't develop if you can't stay healthy.
We'll see you about Hayden, Rucie Jackson, Carmen no I
said Ryan Hayes, no Neil Ferrell defensive tackle. No. I
didn't like it this year Channing and Eric Azukama at
linebacker receiver also respectively. No I did a mock off
season once Blue Sky, We're gonna run through it real quick.
I signed left guard Tevin Jenkins, a physical tone center
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from the Chicago Bears who I think is a great
fit in the system. Trey Lance, I want to do
like a multiple year contract for a developmental backup quarterback
like Trey Lance, and get him in the program, get
him learning, get him feeling comfortable. You're the backup to
two up. You're gonna play. We need you, We're gonna
develop you. You're gonna be our short yard solution in
the running game as well. Free set Darius Washington from
the Ravens. Did you watch that game? The way he hits,
the way he flies, the way he moves, That's the
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guy I want in the post for us next year.
Nick Westbrook a keene a six foot three receiver. I
think we need that. He was a touchdown maker for
a horrible Titans offense this year. And then Derek Nandi,
the rotational piece inside for the Chiefs. And I do
think Kalais will come back. So that said my third
defensive tackle in there. And then I drafted Tyler Warren,
the Penn State tight end. I took Shamar Stewart, the
defensive lineman from Texas A and M even though I
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know he's not going to go that late, but just
for the fun of it, he's a hell of a player.
Tes Johnson in the second round for a trade that
I got for Tyreek Hill, Lathan Ransom, the safety from
Ohio State that I love, and then an Ohio State
offensive guard Donovan Jackson. So I get Tua and lance
A chan and right, and my running backs Waddle, Nick
westbrook A, Keene tes Johnson, Malik Washington, my receivers, John
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news Smith, Tyler Warren, Julian Hill. What a great tight
end room that is. My tackles are Patrick Paul, Austin
Jackson and key On Smith. My interior offensive line is
Tevin Jenkins, Aarn Brewer, Isaiah Win, Donovan Jackson, Liam Eichenberg
and Andrew Mayer. I keep saying Mayor Meyer and then
Kalais and Zach Steeler with Shamar Stewart who can play
defensive tackle and edge of two ninety Deshan Han, Benito Jones.
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I get JP back, I get chopped or chubb back.
I've got chop Bowser, Quentin Bell, Mohammed Kamara, linebackers Jordan
Brooks and Tyrrel Dotson, corners Ramsey Fuller, Cohu.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
The same room.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And then my safeties are our Darius Washington and Leathan Ransom.
I don't love the tackle position. I gotta get deeper there.
I probably need a vet there. I don't love my
linebacker room either, but it's a good start there for
the off season. All right, let's go ahead and get
the heck out of here. We'll see you guys on Wednesday.
I think the quarterback portion of the previews is going
to kick.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Off on Wednesday. We'll see in the meantime.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
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