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December 13, 2024 36 mins
Travis is joined by Zach Sieler. They talk about everything from the mindset of the team, the confidence the team has in Tua with the ball in his hands late, fatherhood and Sieler’s Safe Haven, Zach’s foundation. Plus, the Week 15 NFL picks and Kyle Crabbs drops by to talk about Tua’s growth as a quarterback and the latest in the college scouting landscape.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do I remove Darlin Deep Speedways Peas Doll.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
From the Baptist Health Studio. This inside the Baptist Health
Training Complex. This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Please go my havans in the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
What is up?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am
your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, a jam
packed episode of fun. When we're gonna talk to Dolphins
offensive tackle Zach Seeler. I'm gonna welcome in Kyle Krabs
and we'll sandwich the week fifteen NFL picks between those
things from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health
Training Complex.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
This is the Draft Time Podcast. Hey Da, what's up, guys?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
And welcome into the Baptist Health Studios for another episode
of Dolphins HQ slash Drive Time.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
My guest today, No no, no? Then Sacks Seilers what I
call him? But Zach? What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Good? Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You guys doing not too bad? Man? So my first
question is Week fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Right, you've played a lot of snaps every year, really
up to this point of your career, you play was
it eighty percent of the snaps? Pretty much every single game.
What's that process like for you to go through a
week and get ready to play that workload every single
week at that position where it's so demanded.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, I mean it starts as soon as that last
games over. It starts right away. I mean, actually this
year we're fortunately we got cold Plunge in the house,
so we hit that every day as much as I
can hot tub and then just really kind of standing
on my what is underlooked I think, and we can
overlook nutrition. A lot of people will kind of go
with boots or this or that, all these different gadgets,

(01:40):
and sometimes it's as simple as just hey, sweets can
cause inflammation, stuff can cause like water and just eating
healthy and that's my biggest thing that's to focus on
during the weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So my nighttime ice cream is not doing me a favor.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'll tell you what though. That might be my weakness too.
Adding to chocolate chip cookies just too good. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
So the cold Plunch couldn't fit in the RV back
in the day that I'm guessing.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
No, no, no, no, I don't think I got some inflatable zone.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Now, yeah, you might be able to make that work.
So office, big win over the New York Jets. You
guys get some some late game really all three phase.
The defense pushes the Jets back for that field goal Malik,
the big kick return two, and the offense goes on
the field. What was that like for you guys in
a situation where you kind of had to have that
game to make all those big plays take us in
the kind of feeling of the team after that big win.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Man, it was great to be able to go through
those highs and lows to the entire game and then
to come at the end of the game with that
kind of momentum. I'm really starting with saying on that
punt we had from Jake Bailey and just just go
out there and just stop them right there, and then
the defense to go out and get the three and
out or whatever for one first down, and then the
offense to go drive the field. It was just awesome

(02:41):
to have that kind of just all three phases firing
all cylinders at the end of the game and ready
to roll that. We just got to make sure we
harness that and just emulate that every week from here
on out.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
What was your message to the guys on that drive,
because you get the you know, they have the big
completion Blazaard that gets them into field goal range. Then
you go TfL from Benito, you have the big sack,
and then Kendall makes the play where they get Adams
out of bounce, which I feelsn't got a bounce.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
We probably have a chance twenty seconds off the clock
correct at least.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Right What was the chat in that huddle before those plays,
because that's a spot where teams could like, you know, what,
was us, We're gonna lose another tight game.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
You guys stepped up and made plays right there.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, I think it's it's it's I mean, I talk
them with a walk. It was literally, it's, hey, look
we need three plays. We just need to make three plays.
They're in field goal range. We either try to knock
them out of it by getting some TFLs and get
some negative plays, or we can get this clock stopped.
And that's what we made sure we did, and we're
thankful we were able to make those plays and do that.
And even then the game wasn't over. I mean then
you had to go out there and do the kickoff
and then the offense had to go drive the field.

(03:36):
So it was just one third part of the the
finish of that game to will to take it to overtime.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Have you guys gotten to the point now where it's
like two has the ball weight you kind of feel
like we're in good hands right here.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
I mean, it's been great, man. It's just seeing that
offense click and how they're rolling, the technicality between him
and or just I guess the precision and are more
sos I'm looking forward him, the receivers, O line run
everybody Johnny and those It's just everyone's just clicking like
that at the end of the game. Is just awesome to.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
See that touchdown and two point conversion had to be
so tied, like it had to be perfectly timed up,
and they both were big plays in that game. So
I mentioned the sack that was your sixteenth of the
last two years, six this year, ten last year. Did
you know that you have the second most sacks among
defensive tackles in the leagues in the beginning of last year.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
I heard that this morning. I did not as of
last night or until I heard that this morning, And
I think it just honestly just a huge blessing God
being to gift me with be able to stay healthy.
I mean, we all know it's a huge part of
this game, and be able to be out there and
make those plays, it's just an awesome experience. Able to
do that for myself and the team and Bill make
those big plays in those last few minute drives and

(04:41):
really taken close out the game.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
It seems like whether maybe I'm on social media too much.
Mike wuld say that I am, But I always see like, oh,
Zack Sealer so underrated. It's like he has the second
most sacks, a monk like Chris Jones is behind you
in the stat Like the guy that everyone says is
the best defensive tackle in football has less sacks than
Zach Sealer. So I always see this comment wry about
how you're the most underrated player in the league, and
I was curious, do you hear that? Have you heard
that from obviously not friends and family, but have you

(05:07):
heard it from just the discourse, And what's your kind
of take on that.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Over the years, I've heard it, and honestly, early on
it was a chip on my shoulder. I'm like, you
know what, good, Okay, I can make that work and
I still love to have that there, and I still
love to think, Okay, hey, I still haven't done I
still have improved, and that's what I kind of helped
motivate myself, besides my name, besides doing it for the
family and doing it for the Dolphins. But honestly, i'd
love to think that now I'm kind of making that
statement where it's like, hey, look, it's not like that anymore.

(05:30):
And I know I'm a serious competitor in the league
and I can go out there and make those impactful
plays at the most meaningful moments.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, you're scoring playoff touchdowns. You're running over the Titans
quarterback on the goal line last year after a pick
like it's pretty hard to go too the radar when
you make that many splash plays. Speaking of splash players,
you play alongside of a guy who's done it for
sixteen seventeen years now in koalas Campbell, and he mentions
you all the time you talk about him and how
much you guys have helped each other. How did that
click so quickly for guys that got together in the
first year and all of a sudden, you guys play

(05:58):
off each.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Other so well.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
It's honestly, especially when they're playing in there like that,
it's it's a relationship. I mean, not to make it weird,
but like it's, hey man, how do you see the game?
It's taking that extra time, that extra tape and like
what are you thinking here? And then I'm like, this
is how I see it. I want to be able
to see it from your lens. That's something and Christian
had going four years in a row. Was hey, really

(06:20):
three years? At first you were kind of just figuring
things out ourselves, but once we kind of got that
rhythm going, it was like, Okay, this is how I
know he's gonna play it. I need to play it
like this now without talking, without that unspoken word out there.
And that's what kalayis and I with him being such
a veteran of me being more on that veteran side
of things nowadays, is being able to get that going

(06:40):
asap and not taking a year or two and be
able to make that happen right now.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
So you guys were able to build that within the
first season together.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Like, so you is that you said, it's not a
spoken bond, like you kind of just feel off of
each other.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
During the game, so you know, it's a it's a
ton of talking and sitting down and watching tape and
that Okay, hey they're doing this here. I think I'm
gonna do this. I'll probably play it like this. Okay, Yeah,
I can do this to help you out there or
help work off you here. But then when you're out there,
you're not sitting there talking like, hey, if this comes here,
you've already talked those talks and you already know what's
going to happen, and you can be proactive.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
It seems to really show up in the pass rush games.
You I call the stunts.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
You guys, ron Like, you got so much production off
those twists and those those pickstons, right, that's a pretty
big part of it too.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, we love doing that, and I think it helps
us up frontward. It makes a cleaner makes it cleaner
for us as rushers, and we can play off each
other very well. And having guys that are unselfless, because
you know, sometimes you're just a sacrificial lamb in those
games and sometimes you're the one that comes free. So
it's just how the chips fall.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, it's fun to watch the way you guys work
together and under coach Clark of course, the one that
kind of puts all together. You know, he's been here
since I got here, so he's kind of one of
my guys.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
And you as well.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Just tell us a little bit about coach Clark. What's
something maybe we don't know about him in terms of
how he leads and motivates. And I know he's a
little bit loud. You can hear h much training camp
in the practices, but yeah, tell us about coach Clark
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Became man, He's an amazing coach. He's really helped step
my game up over the years. And I'll tell anyone
coming in here. I tell all those guys you can
ask the new guys out here. A few weeks ago.
I'm like, look, he's gonna make you mad what he does.
He's gonna find what makes you mad. He's know what
to push that button, and he's gonna push it just
to make you more mad, to get you, to motivate you.
And when he's doing that, I'm like, it's like, hey,

(08:12):
look his technique. He knows what he's teaching, he knows
what he's doing. He's so almost overcoached to a point
where like you basically were not practicing to practice, you're
practicing until you can't do it wrong. And that's something
we really focus on every day with all of our
individual drills, with all our reps, and and he focuses
on and we don't. We don't ever fall fall back
or relent. It's like, hey, look like today, that's just

(08:33):
slow day. Let's take it. He's a not like we're
gonna get after it. Make sure we're doing this right.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
So he must, he must really kind of fall back
on you to be the conduit for the rest of
the room because you convey that message to the players, like, look,
he's doing this for your best interest.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah. Absolutely, he knows that. He knows like, look, if
you don't have your players on your side, they're not
gonna they're not gonna do as the coaches are saying,
and they're not going to do this. So it's a
two way street, and it's it's it's working with him
and us working together to make those practices meaningful.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
What's the mindset here coming up for a big game
and Houston got a road trip here ahead, a chance
to get back to five hundred for the first time
since Week two. What's your the teams team's mindset going
into this game?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Man it's one more game. It's one more game. It's playoffs.
For us, it's it's go out there, study the tape,
do extra get the extra body work, the clean eating,
all that stuff we kind of talked about before, and
the extra time in the tape room to really take it.
These are guys that we don't play often. Man. Well,
I guess we have the last couple of years, but
they're not typically on the schedule. And to be able
to take it to these guys and to adjust to

(09:28):
how they play the game and how they how we
can play and play them at best.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Looking forward to it should be a fun one. Two
more questions here for you real quick. First year as
a father playing in the league. How has that changed
your approach to football and life? Everything changes?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Ye, it does. Man, It's been such a blessing. He
is just as the little terror is the best way possible. Man.
I know, but you know, I've I started waking up
earlier to actually do the plunge and stuff in the mornings,
and I just had to do that that much earlier now.
But it's kind of cool with the time we come
in and able to he wakes up at like six
point thirty on them dot. So it's really special that

(10:01):
I can go in there. I'll wake him up, I'll
get him out of his crib, you know'll change him,
kind of play with him about ten minutes before coming in,
and it's just such a rejuvenating feeling, Like this just
shows you's like, hey, this is why I'm doing this,
like for him, for my family and everything really had
those moments with him were special. So it's been it's
been awesome.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's the stress reducers play with your kids. Yeah, it
takes with all the stress of life. Everything is just
good after that, absolutely right. It's great to hear one
more thing for you right here. We just had my
cause my CLEAs this past week. Sealer's Safe Haven was
the organization that you represented. Obviously your namesake there, tell
us about that little bit.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, no, it's uh, my wife and I started about
two years ago, three years ago when we first kind
of brought into in the light, and our biggest focus
is really trying to get kids outdoors. I think a
lot of times now we get so stuck inside, still
stuck on our phone, so stuck in all these different things,
and I mean, man, we were meant to be outside
so I think just getting kids outdoors and trying to
spark an interest with somebody where maybe they didn't have

(10:51):
that opportunity. Now, So we go outside, We go see
animals or birds, trees, whatever, go hiking, just enjoy God's nature.
I mean, how he built this earth is just it's
a really big passion of ours. So that's what the
Foundation focus on, is getting kids outdoors. We did some
stuff with the seminoles last year. We're doing some stuff
in Missouri now where my wife's from, and hopefully we
take some to Michigan and Tennessee as well, where we

(11:12):
just kind of keep spreading out and just really just
focus on getting another generation outside.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Oh man, I love that. My rule as a kid
was the street light comes on, you have to go inside.
So I was outside all day after school, every single day.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I love to hear that.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Zach great stuff, Zacxi their Dolphins defensive tackle six sacks
this year, sixteen sacks the last two years at second
the National Football League among defensive tackles.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Zachie Theer, appreciate your.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Time, Thank you, ck you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
He really is the man nicest guy you can possibly imagine.
Let's go ahead and take our first break right there.
Come back on the other side, do the week fifteen picks,
and we'll finish it out with Kyle Crabs and Segment
three Drive Time Podcast your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
you by Auto Nation. Important week in the National Football

(11:53):
League for your Miami Dolphins are going to have to
find a victory and they could possibly get some huge,
huge help this week weekend. Things are far from over again.
If the Dolphins find their way to four and oh,
they will find their way to the postseason most likely.
In fact, I would guarantee it. What was that Men's
warehouse commercial? You gotta like the way you look, I
guarantee it.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
You're gonna like the way you look? I guarantee it.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
All right, So let's go ahead and make our Week
fifteen picks ten and three and Week fourteen back on
the winning side of things. I also had a miscalculation
on my numbers. I had given myself three additional losses
compared to what I actually had, And that is why
I don't do live math on the air, because I
had to go back over my notepad that has all
my picks all season long for the last like five years,

(12:37):
and find out where the error was. It was back
in like week nine. Got that fixed. The record is
one forty nine and fifty nine. There are, let's see,
two hundred and eight games in the bag. We have
sixty four games left to go. It's a seventy one
point six percent win percentage.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Cue the music.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
We picked the Rams over the Niners on Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Did that game win? We don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
We'll find out last night. I guess you guys already
heard me. Take the Texans over the Dolphins. I just
have to see it before I believe it. In a
big game, in a big spot, the Chiefs over the Browns.
The Chiefs are gonna get picked off at some point.
It could be this week. If it's Jamis Winston, you
know good Jamis, they will do it. If it's bad Jamis,

(13:19):
it'll be absolutely blown up in the Chiefs favor there.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'll take the Bengals over the Titans.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Although the Bengals against the Cowboys did not inspire confidence
in my prediction they would run the table when they
were four and seven. Was stupid because they looked like
crap against the Cowboys after getting ran roughshot on the
Pittsburgh Dealers. A're gonna win this one though, over the
punchless Titans. I'll take the Commanders, excuse me, over the
Saints when they go back home to Jayden Daniel's stomping

(13:48):
grounds or last year stomping grounds at LSU.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'll take the Ravens over the Giants.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
These are some runaway games, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I'll take the Cowboys over the Panthers, even though I'm
pretty sure that's gonna be a popular pick for the
Panthers there. But just because the Panthers have come close
doesn't mean they know how to win yet. And Dallas,
as bad as they are, I think can fluster Bryce
Young and get a victory in that pointless game that
doesn't matter at all in the NFL landscape. I'll take
the Jets over the Jags. Just give me a couple
of Jets wins here in the next couple of weeks

(14:15):
to make that draft pick fall down a little bit,
and then, yeah, I kind of hope they do remove
Aaron Rodgers from the lineup in that Week eighteen game
if it matters for us. Otherwise, I couldn't care less.
I'll take the Colt over the Broncos. I'm gonna pick
Indianapolis here because I think that their game translates better
into poor weather. In fact, why don't we go ahead
and do what I like to do on the air
and go live weather report Denver on the weather app.

(14:37):
Is it going to be snowy? I mean, Richardson's going
to be scattershot either way. It's not going to be snowy,
but it's going to be very cold down in the twenties.
And actually, man, Denver weather's so weird. It has a
high of fifty four that day and a low of
twenty eight. I know that the low means nighttime temperature,
so just going to be cold, no precipitation there. But
I still like Anthony Richard sim in those elements to
be a better player than bow Knicks, who I still

(15:00):
nix is better than I thought he was gonna be.
But I think you've seen his ceiling and I think
he's gonna be one of those guys where you get
more tape on him, and I don't think there's like
a second curve ball for him to adjust and you know,
make an evolution in his career, because well that already
occurred because you played sixty games in college and you're
twenty five years old as a rookie, so I don't
think it's gonna happen for you in the NFL. I
think we've seen his peak already at the stage of

(15:20):
his career. I'll take the Bills over the Lions in
what is probably a Super Bowl preview at this point.
I know Buffalo couldn't get a stop against the Rams
last week, but that Rams offense is pretty dang good.
The Lions, I feel like if they're going to lose
a game to the rest of the way, it's probably
this one.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
So give me Buffalo in a huge huge.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Actually doesn't really matter, right, I mean, Buffalo actually needs
to win to stay tight with the Chiefs for that
first overall seed, because man, if the Chiefs go into
Week eight team and we have to have them beat
the Broncos, I don't want to see it be Blaine
Gabber in that game. I'll take the Cardinals over the Patriots,
although the Cardinals are tail spinning right now, nose diving
after a really good month of October into November. There,

(16:01):
I'll take the Bucks over the Chargers. This is the
hardest game to pick for me this week. The Chargers
aren't a good team like they You can't have Lad
McConkie be your number one receiver with Quinton Johnston and
Josh Palmer. They're all like decent players, right, But it's
just like you're not going to compete against teams that
have Mike Evans and guys that can you know, Bucky

(16:22):
Irvin although I think he's hurt, but either way, will shoot.
Josh JK. Dobbins went down. Their whole offense went down too.
I mean, the only way they scored in that KC
game was to run the football. I just think that
the Bucks can score enough points even on a good
Chargers defense. They need Baker to play clean and you know,
and basically prevent the Chargers from getting their takeaway because

(16:42):
its a long way they can really beat teams is
that they went on defense. I'll take the Bucks on
the road in Los Angeles. Give me the Packers over
the Seahawks. I think the Seahawks have been kind of
on a magic carpet ride, and the Packers, I think
are going to do what they did last year and
get red hot and win a bunch of games down
the stretch. They've already begun that with wins over the Niners, Bears,
and your Miami Dolphins. I'll take And what the hell
are these primetime games? What are we doing Bears and Vikings?

(17:04):
Why why Flores is gonna tear Kayler Williams's head off
in that game. I'll take the Falcons over the Raiders
on Monday Night. What's the point of doing flex scheduling
if you're gonna keep Falcons and Raiders on Monday Night
one week after you kept Bengals and Cowboys. We're gonna
look back at week fourteen and fifteen in like early

(17:24):
April and be like, I wish we had those Monday
night games back. I didn't watch the game on Monday,
did you. I don't care about Cowboys and Bengals. I'd
there's so much content out there. I'm not gonna watch
pointless football on primetime football. So that's my rant, Falcons
over the Raiders in that one. Those are the Week
fifteen picks to take our last break right there. Come
back on the other side and welcome to Kyle Krabs.

(17:45):
That's an ext Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
brought to you by AutoNation. We do not have college
football this weekend outside of Army and Navy, which is
a fun game to watch. But that does not mean
we will not have Kyle krabs Well coming into the
show as we do every single Friday. Kyle, my friend,
how are you And what is your Army Navy tradition

(18:06):
if you have one?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
So I wish I made it a tradition, but I
went one year, very very cool. It was maybe twenty
to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen Army Navy, which everyone was
in Philadelphia and it went to like the last play
of the game on a Hail Mary, and somebody in
the box was like, man, I hope it doesn't go
to overtime so I can go home. And I just
can't imagine being in the box hoping for not watching

(18:30):
more football, not watching overtime football. And when the college
football season is done the way that it is here,
I try to make it a habit to appreciate every
opportunity to watch football. So my Army Navy tradition is
to watch the game enthusiastically despite the fact that it
doesn't have a lot, a bunch of pro prospects or
anything like that.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Does that answer surprise anybody from our great Kyle Krabs here.
It shouldn't, Kyle. I want to get into college stuff
here with you real quick. But first, you know, you
inspired me to ask a question to both Mike and
Tua on Wednesday from your film review, and I saw
it too, but I like the way you broke it down, obviously,
and so I brought it up to Tua, and I
really liked the way he answered the question. But it

(19:09):
was basically, you know, the way he was able to
change the launch point on the touchdown pass to Tyreek
Hill against what was a six man pressure, and Tua
had talked about in his answer how they saw that
same rep in practice and they took the outside guy
and let the inside go go free, which obviously produces
more a sack in those situations most likely.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
And it just kind of got.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Me thinking about you know, you've i feel like you've
always been very fair with Tua with how you've evaluated
his game, But lately I've I've noticed a lot more
conviction in belief in him from you, and I'm curious
where that comes from. How much this growth has I
suppose maybe changed not just your opinion of Tua's maybe ceiling,

(19:51):
but the way everyone looks at this guy around the league,
Cause I feel like right now, man, all the talk
that's you know, used to be out there about Tua
that was still negative, it's it's kind of going a
I mean, there's the same accounts are doing it that
you know, maybe for attention or for for clicks, but
it's hard to find guys that don't see it with
this guy anymore.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, I think the the most common theme amongst successful,
highly successful NFL quarterbacks is confidence. It's not a physical trade.
It's it's not arm strength. It's not ability to shrug
off two edge rushers who got free runs in the
pocket and then throw the ball fifty yards. It's not

(20:29):
any of the physical attributes. We've seen quarterbacks of every shape, size,
and skill set that have come into the league and
been highly successful quarterbacks. And the common theme is confidence.
And I just feel like watching Tua Tongue aloa this
year with the amount of confidence that he exudes. And

(20:50):
you've kind of heard like those that have been in
the building alluding to that the last couple of years
as being where he's continued to take steps forward, forward, forward, forward.
I think you're seeing it in the public eye more
the way that he broke down the question that you
asked him about exactly what happened, and the recall of
this happened, and this happened in practice with we had

(21:12):
this protection and the way that they sorted it out
and the coverage that we got. And you see so
much of that in the public eye. You see it
at the line of scrimmage. You see it with the
way he quickly gets to the right reads and eliminates
certain progressions to be in the right spot to start
with his eyes in the right place based on the
coverage shell that you're getting. What the content thing that

(21:34):
he just did with Keith Lee this week, I thought
was another great example of that, him talking about all
the things you have to manage and process and that's
part of the maturation of a quarterback in the NFL.
And I think you've seen the fruits of that bore
this year for Tua in a way that makes it
really hard unless you're just gonna be unabashedly biased for

(21:58):
whatever personal reason you have to be that to sit
here and continue to cast out about who he is
as a player.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Well, a blue check mark on X does come with
monetization rewards. If you get enough engagement, and he is
certainly a lightning rod for that. And to your point
about the Keith Lee video, if I was good enough
at doing this type of stuff I would have so
many of these cooked up already. When he comes down
the slide with the styrofoam like takeaway container full of
the two Prime drinks whatever that whatever drinks were in

(22:27):
their Gator raye twitch, there are so many opportunities there
for like another two touchdowns he opens up the case.
I don't know, there's so many things you can do
with that Dolphins win as a w comes out of
the styrofoam container. I'd love to see somebody more talented
than me in that regard cook some of that stuff up. Kyle,
how do you think, because we've had this discussion before too,
I think even before, like you know, this concussion this

(22:48):
season and the comeback where that's when to me like
he took his game to a different level starting with
that Arizona Buffalo game, the two losses. But how do
you feel like his skill set, you know, is maybe
even more valuable in a landscape that the NFL just
does not want teams going deep anymore. They want to
put the roof on the top of the defense, and

(23:08):
this guy is so adept in the quick game and
the processing. I kind of feel like the way the
game is transitioning more towards that he might be even
more valuab valuable because of where he does thrive in
the short and quick game.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, I think the cycles of the NFL, it's certainly
in a lot of too high presentation. I think this
is the highest amount of Cover two that has been
called in a season by all NFL teams since at
least twenty twenty. I think Cover three is at the

(23:45):
lowest point it's been since at least twenty nineteen. So
I mean that one high versus two high shell. And look,
maybe the Dolphins are single handedly responsible for this, because
if you look at individual opponent frequency of cover two
called the Dolphins, I think they have like three of
the top six individual games this season of highest percentage
of Cover two that's been called against him this season.

(24:06):
So you put out on tape for two years the
explosive playability with the speed, and you have to adapt
or die, and you've seen the offense stylistically adapt with
more complimentary players, and he's at the point now where
I feel like if you want to live in the
world where you're going to give him two high shelves

(24:26):
and a lot of Cover two and a lot of
Tampa two which you've seen a lot of, and a
lot of Drop eight trying to flood zones and force
him make quick decisions. He'll make quick decisions if you
want to pressure him. You know, that's where I think
you see the still see the ability to hit guys
against main coverage and pressure situation on time and move
the launch point in the process like he did on
the touchdown pass and they got I had a situational

(24:48):
fourth down in the low red zone. So it's all
part of just like building out your skill set. And
I think that's really where he's at and the strengths
of it. So long as he makes good decisions to
protect him himself, I think you're going to play well
in any number of situations or whatever the coverage trends
are across the league and hopefully for a long long time.

(25:09):
And you know, back to the detractor comment real quick,
like the thing I see now is all he's a
screen marcher. He threw two screens on the game winning drive.
It's like did we just forget what happened last year
like we always did, was throw the ball last two
Like the last two years, he was like number one
and twenty plus yard area or throws for like completion
percentage over expectation and passer rating at just just yeah.

(25:32):
And you know who else is a little a dot
Patrick Mahomes yeahs of all time could not bring myself
to care less about super efficient passing offenses and being
able to move the ball and score a lot of points.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, whoa, whoa? What was me right? You have a
great offense.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Let's let's go ahead and get back into the college
game here, because that's why I always have you on
the show here every single Friday. But we don't have
any games this week besides the aforementioned Army and Navy game.
Let's go ahead and start with this, Kyle, because for
as long as I can remember, it was always Shrine
Bowl was ahead of the Senior Bowl. They would play
it at the Tropicana Field, and I loved the aesthetic
of that game and that that dump of a building,

(26:09):
and you would kind of get like a graduation portion
of that game to the Senior Bowl from guys that
perform really well, but now the game is out in
Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
If I'm not mistaken, it's the.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Same thing in Arlington now, oh it moved yeah, okay, yeah, Texas,
all right, so that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
And then if it's the same weekend as Senior bull.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Or yeah, so the game, the Senior Bowl game is
on the Saturday, the last Saturday, and the Shrine Game
is like three days beforehand, on that Thursday, two days
beforehand on that Thursday. So they're right on top of
each other. So they want to compete. The Shrine Bowl
wants to compete with the Senior Bowl.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm curious how you think that could impact All Star
weekend and how scouting absorbs All Star weekend because we've
already seen basically the entire Colorado Buffalo draft contingency is
going to the Shrine Bowl.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, the competition is good for everyone. I think that's
the first thing. I think the intensity of having it
be a good thing to have more exposure and more
time on task. And now the fact that they're starting
to open up some of these All Star events to

(27:20):
non graduated players with diplomas, like you can be an
underclassman or not have your degree. And now start to
participate in some of these games as well. The best
thing that you can do is a player from a
pre draft process standpoint is have as much exposure as
you possibly can to NFL personnel and decision makers and

(27:41):
scouts and those who are responsible for putting evaluation on
you to get you in the league in the right
spot to give you the best chance to be successful.
So the increased I think profile of that is a
good thing. And you know how Jim and Eric, who
run those two events effectively put together their teams. You

(28:03):
know that they've got great people around them. I know
people want staffs for both of those events, and I
am here for all competition that forces you as an
event to be better because I know there's focus on
like player quality of experience. And it used to be
just like the Combine where we'd sit here and we'd

(28:24):
run you through the meat grinder with six am to
ten pm with meetings and workouts and bench press and
we do that for four days and then you got
to go out and do your on field testing and
we want to see if we could break you. And
it's less about that more and it's more there's more
player resources that are forwarded to the players at these events,
and you still get some of that at the combine,

(28:46):
but you don't get it double dipped with some of
the craziness that you used to. I think one of
the best things that's come out of all of this
is both events that have kind of done away with
like public weigh ins, which you know, and that could
be a very young, comfortable thing for a player to
walk up on stage and look out into the audience
and you see all these eyes looking at you, and

(29:06):
you're wearing some spandex bottom half and that's it to
step one and get your height and weight taken and
your ring span take Like it's this kind of ridiculous stuff.
So doing away with things like that, making it a
better experience for the players, that more exposure, I think
that's where the biggest win happens.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, you sold me, man, I don't No one needs
that meat market. I mean it's ridiculous. That's a great point.
Never need to see that for anybody, And I feel
bad for anybody that had to experience doing that. How
about this draft, man, because as we put a bow
on the regular season in college football, you know, I
think the quarterback, how you feel about the quarterback position
kind of, I suppose projects how people view this draft class.

(29:45):
I'm curious where you think this class stands up from
years past, where you think the strongest positions are, and
just kind of I guess give us the lay of
the land of what this draft looks like to you
as we sit here on December thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, I think some of the best positions in this
class or positions that maybe aren't necessarily your most stereotypical
premium positions. I really like this safety class a lot.
I like Malachi Starks from Georgia. I'll have two other
players at safety in the top thirty two, and that's

(30:17):
Xavier Wats from Notre Dame. He's got twelve interceptions the
last two years. And that's Kamari Ramsey from USC who's
a retort sophomore transferred over from UCLA. You get your
eyes on those players and it's very easy to like
the skill sets that they bring to the table. I
think this is a loaded group of pass rushers, guys
on the edge, some guys they can play on the interior.
I think the defensive interior is not quite as deep

(30:39):
as what the edge group is, but the defensive front
has a lot of good quality options. I don't think
it's a great quarterback class. I don't think it's a
great wide receiver class. I think it's a really compelling
running back and tight end class. Like all of the
non traditional premium positions are where I think there's above
average to significantly above average quality options in this class,

(31:05):
and I think that will be really fascinating to see.
Every year the league kind of tells you something they
think about that with how they choose to spend in
free agency, right, Like, look at all the teams last
year that spent crazy on guards in free agency, and
you know there was some tackles, but into your offensive line.
You look at a lot of the guys that got
drafted on Day two early Day three, the vast majority

(31:28):
of those guys like didn't win starting jobs this year
across the league. So really fascinating to see. How Like,
I don't think it's a great tackle class. I think
most of the tackles that are up at the top
of the class either have questions. Whether that's Will Campbell,
who I think is a guard, whether that's Josh Simmons
at Ohio State who's coming off of a torn acl

(31:49):
whether that's Cameron Williams who's a super young and inexperienced player.
There's just a lot of holes and resumes at that
spot that has med a little apprehensive to buy all
the way in on that.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
That's interesting because I remember Chris Greer a couple of
years back talking about like having a two year snapshot
of the draft and being privy to what's coming down
the pipeline, and that almost kind of tracks to the
Patrick Paul selection when we didn't need a left tackle
last year, but you get him in the pipeline, you
get him developed to take over for Toron Armstead in
the future where there's maybe a bit of a weaker

(32:21):
interior offensive line class to come back this year, maybe
it's better this time around. So I think that kind
of tracks too, which the positions you rattle off and
like you to your point, we'll see you know, so
much can change between now in March and then to
April off the draft, but it seems like those are
some positions Miami could be needing when the season comes
to an end. Here, So really interesting stuff there. Let's
go ahead and close with this, Kyle. We have the
college football Playoff It's been much bandied about. I would

(32:44):
love to have seen Alabama and Miami in the playoff.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
We will now get that.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
I want to see Cam Warden, Jayaln Milroll play a
big important football games, but it's not gonna happen. Which
matchups in the first round for you are most intriguing
from a scouting perspective, Kyle.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Can I can I go off the board and go
with a couple of non playoff.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Are they gonna play?

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Though?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Well, we know the pop Tar Bowl? All the Kynes
guys are gonna play. They are they already? Yeah? Cam
Cam came out and said he was gonna play. All
the Colorado guys said that they were gonna playp Tar Bowl.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Is that what's called?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Though?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I thought that was just like the like the pop
like you know the pop Tark. There is something like
pop Tart Bowl. Yes, they have the best mascot in
all football. I mean, well, I don't know if you
saw it with the pop talk that that went down
in the toaster for the halftime show.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Who's the best part about the whole Bull season?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
The UH South Carolina Illinois matchup in the Citrus Bowl
on New Year's Eve is one that I really like.
There's some young talent that's not draft eligible. South Carolina
has a quarterback, Leonora Sellers, who is a freak athlete.
He's got some Anthony Richardson jeans to him as a

(33:54):
player that they also South Carolina has the Bronco ne
Girsky Award winner this year, a Canard, another one of
those edge rushers who are impressive in this draft class.
They also have Dylan Stewart, the freshman phenom that they
have there. So that's a group of talent that if

(34:15):
they play, and not all of them will play, but
if they do play and they make the decision to play,
that's a bowl matchup that I find particularly compelling. I
don't think we can thumb our nose at Alabama Michigan
and the rely Quest Bowl. You'll get some showcase of
talent in that group. Obviously, Michigan from a defensive standpoint,

(34:37):
you've already had Mason Graham who's declared for the draft.
But Alabama from trench guys and guys that have been
long tenured guys there, maybe they're looking to end their
tenure on a high note and get a win against Michigan.
That's a new year's Eve Bowl as well. I think
there's some really interesting matchups with teams that have a
lot of talent that you probably won't get all of them,

(34:59):
but I'd be so prized if everybody opted out.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, looking forward to that. I think we'll have you
on next time around. We'll do the we'll do the
playoff games. We'll circle back to that and get into
those when they get closer. That's going to be next
weekend to the game, start this weekend the bowl games.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Imagine me not knowing anything other than the Dolphins play
the Texans.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
He is at Kyle Krabs on social. Gotta remember that
new at at Kyle Krabs, host of the Lockdown Dolphins
podcast and Lockdown NFL Scouting offer, author of Touchdown Miami substack,
and he is the NFL Draft lead for the thirty
third team. Kyle, you said it all once again, Thank
you as always, and we will see you next week.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Thanks Travis.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
And there he goes, and there we go on a
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