Draft Season | AFC Draft Review

John Schmeelk and Tony Pauline discuss every team in the AFC’s draft classes, the biggest surprises, and the strongest position groups.

:00 - AFC West

9:00 - AFC North

27:17 - AFC South

35:32 - AFC East

44:25 - Draft superlatives

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's now officially open. This is Draft Season, Part two
of our draft review. John Schmelke, Tony Pauline with you.
We looked at the NFC on part one yesterday. Make
sure you're two days ago. Whatever it gets posted, I
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(00:24):
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dot com. A lot of interesting stuff in the AFC, Tony,
some quarterback controversy. We'll talk about all of that and
more right here in the Hackensack and Meridian Health podcast studio.
Keep getting better, all right, Tony. AFC West good place

(00:44):
to start. Absolutely, let's do it all right, Denver Broncos.
They have seven picks, Tony. I'm gonna list all the picks, folks.
Tony's gonna pick out some of the featured players in
the group that he thinks are important. That really makes
a statement about the draft class, all right. J Da Baron,
quarterback out of Texas at pick twenty. My guy R. J.
Harvey got into the second round pick sixty. Next Alvin

(01:08):
Kamara for Sean Payne right there. Look at Pat Bryant.
I thought that was a little bit early. At seventy
four out of Illinois. I thought some better wide receivers
stole on the board. I think they picked him over
Jalen Knowle, which I thought was crazy. Savion Jones, a
really good pass rusher on the defensive line, would pick
one on one. Ke Robinson, a super athletic edge player
that was a special team's ace at pick four. He

(01:29):
has some promise. Punter punters are people too, Jeremy kra
Crushaw out of Florida, and then tight end Caleb Lohner
out of Utah. Tony. I thought Denver got some really
good value early.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
This is probably my least favorite draft. Okay, why a
couple of reasons. Number one John Day Barron in round one. Okay,
but there were receivers available to him, and Omarion Hampton
was available to him, and they you know, I know
you like RJ.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
You don't need Omaron Hampton when you can get r J.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Harvey Tony know again, Harvey, I thought he would a
little bit early. I know you like him fast, He's explosive,
Pap Ryan, I would agree with you. Early Savvian Jones
was early a lot of earlier Hugh Robinson in the
fourth round. Hugh Robinson's production is awful. I mean, yeah,
he's a size, speed guy. He was mostly a special
teams player now without it because he could never produce

(02:18):
on the field. Right, I mean you heard that a
guy like that in the fourth round. Again, I can't
kill it, but I think they they selected guys two
to three rounds earlier than they should have been.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Hey, this is Sean Payton's modus operande. Right, he finds
guys that he likes. Be damn what the rest of
the leaf thinks about them?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh Knicks last year?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Right, Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong. We'll see what
this draft class looks like in a few years. All right,
let's go to the Kansas City Chiefs, Tony. This might
be my favorite draft class. I think it's just really strong.
They get Josh Simmons, who, if he's healthy, is probably
the best offensive tackle on the class. At pick thirty two.
Omar Norman lott Man put him with Chris Jones in

(02:55):
passing situations inside a defensive tackle who ast Ashton July
out of Louis. What we've talked about him a ton
is the defensive end. I think he'll go really well
in that system. Specepag No will love him. Noel Williams.
That was a third round pick. No Williams their second
third round. They're you're a big fan of his cornerback
out of cal long ball skills, Jalen Royals. A lot

(03:17):
of people had him as a second third round pick
out of Utah State in round number four. Jeffrey Bossa,
a smart former safety linebacker in around five, and then
one of my guys, Bershard Smith drops all the way
to around seven. The Chiefs loves to put receiving backs
and you know, look go back to Andy Reid when
he was with the Eagles back of the day, Charlie Gardner, right,

(03:40):
guys like that, you get him on the field these
pass catching you know, running backs on third downs. That's
what Burshard Smith is. So I thought the Chiefs had
an absolutely phenomenal draft.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think it's the problem with this yeft is the
same problem that the Eagles had too many talented players,
too few spots on the roster to the fifties.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Players, and that's the problem to have, by the way, and.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Simmons like, you know, he's not going to be playing
for a while. He may not play till November because
of the torn patella. I had him mocked for the
longest time to the Chiefs. In round one, I foolishly
took him out. The Chiefs prove me to be the fool.
So we'll see what happens. Omar Norman Lott one of
the best interior pass rushers in this draft. Quick explosive
guy Ashton Jilott fits their system, A smaller guy with

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an engine that never stops. I was a big fan
of Jeffrey Bossa in the fifth round. I mean, he
is a tough, athletic sideline to sideline linebacker. I'm surprised
he took this long to get off the.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Board, no question about it. And again, I just think
a really nice job by the Chiefs there. All right,
let's go to the Raiders. I believe I saw someone
say this is the largest draft class in Raiders history
with eleven picks. If it's not, I apologize Raider fans.
Ashton genty at sixth overall, he falls right into their laps. Guys, debt,
taxes and Pete Carroll picking running backs. Baby, he got

(04:54):
the best one in the draft to pick number six,
Jack Besh second round at fifty eight, Darian Porter, Caleb Rodgers,
the guard out of Texas Tech. It around three. He
had a nice he had a nice week at the
Senior Bowl down there in Mobile. Charles Grant, developmental offensive
tackle out of William and Mary too. Then you go
Dante Thorne, one of your guys, Tony in round for
the wide receiver, tomka Hemingway and upfield pass rusher at

(05:17):
South Carolina in a round four as well, JJ Pagie,
a fun player out of all missing round six, Tommy
Malowe out of Montana State, the wide receiver, Cam Miller
quarterback out of North Dakota State, just hanging out in
like the beautiful American West here. And then Cody Lindenbergh
got a Minnesota a linebacker. So a lot of players
in this group. Tony tried a narrow down for I.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Think they did a good job. I mean they've got
holes on the offensive line. They may have a problem
with Calton Miller. They take Caleb Rodgers, a college tackle,
pojected guard. Some people think he's gonna play center and
then Charles Grant, listed as an offensive tackle, needs some
work on his in the weight room. I should say,
is he a guard? Is he? Is he a tackle?
He's an athletic blocker with upside. Ashton Empty. We beat

(06:00):
that horse to death. You know why, terrific player. I
like the way it was a ying and yang with
the receivers that they took. Jack Beck is more your
tough contested catch guy. Dante Thornton has got tremendous upside.
I had him as a third round pick. They took
him in the fourth round. He keeps getting better and better.
Ran four to three at at six foot four at

(06:20):
the combine and Tonka Hemingway again with the they addressed
the interior of that defensive line position. As I mentioned
right before the draft, there's a problem with Christian Wilkins foot.
He may need another procedure. They added two potential pass
rushers on the inside there with Tonka Hemingway and JJ Pigee.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
All right, let's go to the Los Angeles Chargers. Tony
nine picks for them. O Marion Hampton falls right into
their lap in round one. Jim Harbaugh is gonna love
running that dude, and Naja Harris is there too. I'm
your deal though, what's that one year deal exactly? And
my guess is that it won't be long before Mario
and Hanton takes over the eighteen carrier game role from
Naja Harris. Good pick. If you guys are picking rookie

(07:02):
fantasy players this year, he should be your guy, right
after Ashton Genty. Trey Harris round two, pick fifty five,
kind of a bigger, bodied wide receiver. I thought he's
a good contrast to what they have a Ladd McConkie,
So it's a kind of a good combination of wide
receivers there. Jamari Caldwell, the big defensive tackle out of
Oregon who can actually move pretty well. I thought Kyle
Canarden round four to South Calina was a nice value pick.

(07:24):
Good football player. KeAndre Lambert Smith that of Auburn and
lower the run. They Gadsden at of Syracuse tight end
and wide receiver of round five. Branson Taylor Gord out
of Pittsburgh in round six with r J. Mickens safety
out of Clemson. He's also a bit of a slot
corner as well. And then you have Trick Wezy Bridges
or the Wiez trick Weeze. I'm sorry, Wow, you're correcting
me on a pronunciation. Tolly. How about that one? There's

(07:46):
never ceased. I was not familiar with the player. I'm
not gonna lie. Seventh round cornerback out of Florida.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Hampton will be their feature ball carrier moving forward. Fits
the Harboys system. Trey Harris, solid pass ketchup. Surprise you
went in the second round. KeAndre Lambert Smith I thought
was good value in round five. He's long, he's explosive,
he's fast, had a falling out in Penn State. Really
was kind of up and down at an Aubus system
last year. I think Arondy Gadson was great value in

(08:16):
round five. He can develop. He's your downfield threats at
the tight end position. I think he was a tremendous sleeper.
Trick Wize Bridges. I saw trick Weiz Bridges when he
played his first college game at Oregon against Ohio State
and he blew me away. He was playing safety for
the Oregon Ducks that day, had a great game against
the Ohio State Buckeys. He's been up and down since

(08:37):
they used him at corner last year at at the
Florida he showed flashes, but not a lot of consistency.
He's a size, speed guy that has shown ability. If
he doesn't make the active roster, he's a practice squad
guy with a lot of upside.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Absolutely, again, I think I think the AFC West had
had some nice drafts. And again I'm with you, Tony.
I think it was hard to find. And we talked
about as the star of our last show, hard to
find a jass. You're really Scratuated's like, I don't know
what that team was doing. There were so many good
players in this draft class, in those middle rounds, I
think it was hard to miss, and I think most
of the teams did a really nice job. All right,
let's go to the AFC No. R T talk about

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teams that always do a nice job in the draft.
Baltimore Ravens had eleven selections in this draft. Let's go
through him real quick, Tony, and then you can break
him down in the AFC North Malki starks at twenty seven,
he'll go with Kyle Hamilton. Mike Green dropped all the
way to the end of the second round. You know,
since the Ravens drafted him, he's gonna be sqeaky clean
now and he's gonna have a great NFL career. First
round talent Emery Jones in around three, the offensive tackle,

(09:35):
maybe guard, we'll see where he plays out of LSU.
Teddy Bchatten, the linebacker out of Garden. Round four, Carson Vincent,
who had a nice week at the Senior Ball when
we were down there out of Alabama, A and M.
In round five four round six selections thanked to a
bunch of comp picks. Balal Cone the Western Michigan corner,
Tyler Loop Kicker out of Arizona Lejonte Western, one of

(09:56):
those Colorado wide receivers. A Nias Peebles, a good defensive
tackle out of Virginia Tech. And then Roger Longerbeam a
cornerback of the Rutglers. What a nice week at the
Shrine Bowl and we were down there, fast guy, smart
guy too. And then Garrett Dellinger the guard out of
LSU in round seven.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Filled with a lot of holes here. I think Malachi
Starks will be a Week one starter as a rookie.
Terrific free safety. You go sideline to solid line. Mike Green,
I mean it was the off the field issues from
several years ago that pushed him down draft boards, but
he's an explosive edge rusher in the mole that the
Ravens like you go down. The two offensive linemen are

(10:31):
kind of different from each other. Emery Jones is a tough,
small area ligneman, while Vincent is more athletic. He's got
some upside. I like the Teddy Buchanan pick. I think
longer beam, as you mentioned, is going to be a
surprise with the sixth round, could be a dimeback. He's
got decent length. He's an exceptional athlete with speed.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
He's more.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
He's a diningback, special teams player with return potential.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
No question about it. All right, Let's jump over to
the Cincinnati Bengals. Tony just six picks for them, They
made all of them. Shamar Stewart in round one. You
talk about the Texas and players that played a little
bit heavier than they did, then maybe they should have.
He's one of them. We talked about that on the
NFC Show earlier in the week. I picked number seventeen.
They needed a pass rusher. They get one the Metrius Knight,

(11:16):
the older linebacker out of South Carolina, but a violent hitter,
good player, you get tell the Bengals really are trying
to help trenches on offense and then defense in general.
Doing Fairchriald, third round player out of Georgia. You're a
big fair trial guy, right. He goes in around three.
Barrck Carter, the linebacker, off ball guy at a Clemson
in round four, Jalen Rivers. I thought that's pretty good

(11:37):
value in round five for him as a guard tackle.
Probably more of a guard, but he played tackle in college.
And then Taj Brooks, who he just doesn't wow you.
He's good running back. Yeah, he's tough. He tested better
I think than people thought at a really good solid
running back for the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
In round six, Shamar Stewart. He's a boomer Bus type prospect.
As I've written about mentioned. You know, there's a lot
of comparisons to Vernon Goldston, who selected by the New
York Jets is what the six or eight pick whatever
it was, you know, great athlete, not a lot of
production on the football field. I like both linebackers that
they got. You mentioned Dimitrius Knight. He is a violent,

(12:12):
but smart and tough linebacker that goes sideline to sideline.
Barrett Carter went back for another season at Clemson after
receiving second round grades. Didn't play very well, falls into
the fourth round, but again, he's a smaller, one gap
type of linebacker. I agree with you that Dylan Jalen
Rivers was exceptional value in the fifth round. Could be

(12:34):
a starter at the very least an inexpensive swing offensive
lineman that can back up at tackle or guard.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
No question about it. I think some good players there
for the Bengals. Let's go to the Browns. Their fellow
Ohio wins Mason Graham after they trade out of the
second pick, and we should talk about that trade, Tony.
They get Mason Graham that picked number five. Corson Swesinger,
a linebacker at a UCLA pick thirty three, fun player
to watch. Three picks later. One of the picks they
acquired in that trade to go from two to five

(13:03):
quin Shawn Jenkins, who I think is a great Nick
Tubb replacement and nice, tough, gritty between the tackles type
of runner. Harold Fannon Junior at the top of round three.
I don't know how they can use him, been en
joking together. They're kind of similar to me, but maybe
the ad the tall personnel. We'll see Dylan Gabriel, the
quarterback out of Oregon in round number three, surprisingly ahead
of shad Or Sanders with that pick. Then Dylan Samson,

(13:27):
a great speedback. That's gonna be a one to two
punch with Judkins. I think that's gonna be more of
a fifty to fifty times here than a lot of
people think Samson's a good player. And then the brown
say let's go quarterback again. Then they select should Or
Sanders in the fifth round out of Colorado. Let's get
to the quarterback stuff second Tony, because there's a lot
to talk about with that. Let's start with the trade

(13:47):
the Browns designed to get out of Travis Hunter. Go
to two to five. They pick up a second round
pick this year and a first round pick in next
year's draft to make that move. I frankly, once you
got the I would have been on the phone with
the Bears, who tell me if I'm wrong. My understanding
is that they were hot and heavy, freshed, and genty.
I would have moved again and got even more picks

(14:10):
and then picked a really good player at ten. But
the Browns stuck at five, took Mason Graham. Your thoughts
on the Hunter trade.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, first thing is it was a hall by the Browns.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh, they did really well for a guy that.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
You know, I like Travis Hunter. He's my number two
rated player in the draft. But and he's going to
be an impactful player for the Jaguars, But I don't
know he's the type of impact player that you're giving
up all those sorts of picks for. As far as
you you're a comment that they should have traded down.
I think that the Bears are trying to trade up
on the cheap. They were trying to trade up, but
they didn't want to give away a lot, and the

(14:42):
Browns probably said, you know what, we got another early
second here, we got a first round next year. The
hell with it, Let's stay with the pick. We're not
going to give our selection away to move out of ten.
And they got one of the safer players in the draft,
Mason Graham. Now, they said that the Browns were looking
to improve their pass rush, and they just did. From
the interior of the defensive line, Carson Sweestsinger. I was
told he was potential late first round choice. He went

(15:04):
with the first pick a round two after jahadd Campbell.
The best off ball linebacker in this draft. The only
thing is Carson Swetzinger answers his rookie season without injury questions,
unlike Jahadd Campbell. You're parpe what you said about the
quin Shawn Jenkins Dylan Sampson one two punches right on.
I mean Quinshawn Jenkins, as we saw sparingly during the

(15:27):
regular season, but especially in the college football playoffs, is
a violent runner, sort of a camp Scataboo type, although
he's probably a little bit quicker than camp Scataboo. I
agree agree with you about Fannon. I thought Dylan Gabriel
in the third round, in my opinion, it was interesting.
It was way early for a guy that they want
as a backup quarterback because that's what he is. And

(15:50):
then Shador Sanders. We'll see what happens with that choice.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
All right, give me your perspective as someone that has
tracked Shador Sanders for multiple years now. Throughout the draft process,
You've seen how he's been talked about, what happened to
him on draft night. Break it down, Tony, give me
the inside scoop. You talk to more people than anyone.
How did this whole thing go down? Why did he
not get selected until the fifth pick in the draft.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
There's not one single reason, and I mean all these
conspiracy theories and you know that the the league wanted
to teach him a lesson. It was all absurd. It
was all absurd. You got to go back before the
season when scouts gave Shador Sanders a mid second round grade,
So coming into the season, he wasn't even viewed by

(16:33):
the league, by the scouting services that the teams rely
on as a first round prospect. He was a second
round prospect. Now, quarterbacks are or as we've seen time
and time again, overdrafted. Then you go through the twenty
twenty four season where it really wasn't that great for
Shador Sanders. It wasn't much better than it was in
twenty twenty three. We saw a lot of the same mistakes.

(16:54):
Throwing with poor fundamentals, holding the ball too long, and
taking bad sacks because he tried to improvise too much
running in reverse when he's being pressured, putting the ball
up for grabs with a arm that is nice. He
doesn't have a great arm, and sometimes that's tough to
coach out of a quarterback. The improvisation and the fundamentals,

(17:15):
and the fact is the way he tried to throw
himself out of trouble on Saturday, he can't do that
on Sunday, So that's another issue. His pre draft process,
as far as I'm concerned, was a disaster, and the
pre draft process is used by teams as a precursor
to what's going to happen moving forward. We saw the
debacle at the Shrineball. He's going to show up the

(17:36):
Shrine Ball. Everyone's excited. He comes out one day in street, closed,
walks across the field, does a press conference, and that's it.
Never threw a pass, never threw a pass, and never
never tested during the combine. At this point in time,
as we learned at the Shrine Bowl, cam Ward was
far and away the number one quarterback in the draft.

(17:57):
So you know that Door Sanders really should have have,
you know, been more open to basically doing what scouts
wanted him to do. Part of the problem is they
never hired an agent, so there was no agent there
to navigate him through the waters. He doesn't throw out
the combine, he doesn't test. He's on the side of.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
He also didn't play either of the All Star games.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
You know, he just walked across the field. And you
know when you look at it, every other quarterback selected
before Shador Sanders, not named cam Ward, competed in either
of the Combine, the Senior Ball, the Shrine Bowl, or
both in some in many instances, and here's Shador Sanders,
as I reported from the Combine with falling draftstock. He
chooses to do nothing. And the interviews, as we've learned,

(18:40):
has have rubbed people some teams the wrong way. I'm
not going to get into it because I wasn't at
those interviews, but we know it rubbed some people the
wrong way. And then you know, whether you want to
admit it or not. There was the don factor because,
as somebody said to me, when you draft Shador, you're
drafting his father. And his father is very outspoken, which
people don't like. Granted, he's standing up for his son.

(19:03):
I completely understand that.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
But yeah, I don't think Dion did anything wrong either,
to be honest with you. But but it's just as
mere presence there that that's the fact.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
That it's not it's not that he did anything wrong,
it's what's going to happen in the future. Babie pulpit
as the head coach of the Colorado Buffaloes, And you know,
inevitably reporters are gonna be sticking microphones in his face saying,
what did you think? What do you think about the
way they're handling your son? What do you think about
you know, should your son be playing shuit And Dion,
being as outspoken as he did, would be open to

(19:32):
quit criticizing teams, and teams didn't want to deal with
that stress, with with that potential, you know, because once
once Dion criticizes the way his son is being handled,
it's going to get back to the team and they're
gonna have the answer to it.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
And I think to Tony, the way the media talked
about it, and you know, we you know, we tuned
into draft coverage when we're done on Thursday night. I
watched Friday afternoon. I had to turn it off. Yeah,
because and this is I'm not this wasn't should or
Sanders's fault. I feel sorry for the kid that he
had to sit there and go through all this. I

(20:07):
hope the Browns are a good spot for him. I
hope he succeeds. He's a talented player. You had a
first round grade on him, right and even if he's
a second round player, you know those guys often get
pushed into the first round. So you know, I hope
it works out for him, But I think what teams
were worried about too. And we had a caller that
called up to one of our shows, James and George

(20:29):
is a good caller, and he said, well, you know
should stand. Why don't the Giants take him right with
like their fourth round pick or something like that. And
the point I made was that with him at the
quarterback position, one specifically, but then with should or specifically,
once he's in the building, he's gonna suck all the
oxygen out of the room. And it's not again, not
his fault, not his fault, but the media will make

(20:54):
him the bigger story and every time something goes wrong,
he's gonna have a huge press conference under his life.
As the backup quarterback, he's gonna have to be perfect
in what he says because the attention is gonna be there.
And while a team, and you made this point with
the Browns, they're very comfortable with Dylan Gabriel because of
his personality that he's gonna be a really good backup
quarterback for a long time. I think they're worried if

(21:16):
should or Sanders because of again the media attention that
he gets, which again is not his fault. It's not
his fault. He didn't do anything wrong with that in
that regard. They feel like the distraction part of it
is gonna be not worth what you're gonna get out
of a guy who maybe you either view as a
backup or I view as a guy that might develop.

(21:37):
If you're not gonna pick him as a starter once
you got past the second round, you're not really picking
guys of starting quarterbacks anymore. You're picking guys as developmental quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
The media coverage was just not the past three days.
I mean it was the past three months. I'm in
the gym every morning they have ESPN on and it
was constantly, well should or Sander's got or it was NonStop.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Wellsian is this cow? Lakers? Should or Sanders? And those
are the three topics every time.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
And the thing is, you know, the name is what
drew the media to the NonStop coverage. I had said
if his name was John Schmelch or Tony Pauline, they
wouldn't care. Charles Davis, who is one of my favorite
football analysts. I watched him on Sunday. I was like,
this guy should be a lead analyst in a primetime game.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Is and he is going to be in college football
starting in two years, which will be fun.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
He's one of the nicest guys in the world. We've
ever met him. You wish he was one of your relatives.
He basically echoed that on NFL Network, and he kind
of compared what happened to Shador Sanders to Sam Howell.
Sam Howell, the former North Carolina quarterback. At one point
in time, we all thought, coming off the twenty twenty season,
potential top ten pick did not play well in twenty

(22:49):
twenty one ended up people thought Day two pick. He
landed in the fifth round, and Charles Davis said, no
one paid attention to this percipit of shop down draft
boards because his name was Sam. Everybody paid attention to
it because it was Shadoor Sanders. And and here's the
thing with the here's the difference between you know, you
said everything's gonna be on all the folks gonna be

(23:11):
on shudor Sanders. Jackson Dart was a first round pick
by the New York Giants. The second first round pick.
No one will pay attention to Jackson Dart because they
don't expect them to play, and he was the second
first round pick. Everyone's gonna pay attention to have Bill Carter.
Even though Shadoor Sanders was a fifth round pick in
Cleveland and he was the second quarterback taken.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know, he'll get more attention than Jackson Dart.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Will you probably get more attention than the than the
Browns first round pick. Mason Graham.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's around ending and you're right, should Door Sanders They
made mistakes through the pre draft process. I think they
should have been more open to throwing at the shrine ball,
throwing at the combine and things like that. But like
I said, they didn't have an agent to help them
navigate the waters. That was their choice. But again, you know,
all all these media are just going to continually to

(24:02):
draw out to him. All these these conspiracies were absurd.
Someone told me earlier in the week, Hey, a source
the Giants are taking him at three. I was like,
that's ridiculous. Someone called me right before day three and
I heard, Hey, the league is gonna make an example
of him. They're gonna make a mister irrelevant. That was
equally absurd. We'll see what happens here. It's all in

(24:23):
his hands now. He's got talent. The one thing about Sanders,
you know, we picked a part of his game. The
league likes the fact that he is intelligent, he doesn't
throw bad intersections. Yeah, he processed tex very well. I
love the fact that, especially in twenty twenty three, when
Colorado needed a big drive late in the game, he

(24:44):
was able to deliver. Give him credit for that. So
there are a lot of good aspects that you can
build upon.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
No, he's absolutely a good player. If the Giants would
have traded up to twenty three and picked suit or Sanders,
I would have understood that pick. That would have been fine.
I thought that would have been fine value, the same
way it was for Jackson. I would have a zero
problem with that they decide to go with Jackson Darton instead.
He's a tough player, and I thought he I don't
know if he listened to Hurt any of his conference
call with the media after he got drafted with the Browns.

(25:10):
He sounded like a kid that had been humbled a
little bit, you know, But he's look all Once I
walked out of here on after round one on Thursday night,
and then on Friday night. I you know, so I
wasn't picked in the second round at that point, I
just wanted an opportunity and I want to play football.
I want to get on the grass with these guys
and I want to compete and earn what I can get.

(25:31):
And he's gonna have the opportunity now with the Browns
in a fairly wide open quarterback room. There's a lot
of guys in there, but there's no one that's in
there where you're like, all right, well, this is our
starter for X number of games or whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
He was gonna have the chancelack Go was there for
a year. Deshaun Watson's on his way out so.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
And it's the last year of pickets rookie contract too, right.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
I don't think Picket's a factor. I think Pickett was
a necessity to fill a hole. I don't think people
really expect too much on Picket. So really, moving forward,
all he's got to do is beat Dylan Gabriel. And
he has all the tools to beat Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yep. So we'll see if he can do it, and
I hope he succeeds. All right, let's go to the
Pittsburgh Steelers. They had seven picks in this draft. Tony
a very Steelers. He draft Derek Harmon at the great
value at twenty one, defensive tackle, Caleb Johnson, he'll be
a nice combination with Warren and running back. And third
round picking eighty three, I thought that was good value

(26:21):
for him. Jack Sawyer, a very STEELERSZ player, linebacker out
of Ohio State. I thought round four was very good
value for Jack Sawyer. I thought he was a better
player than that. Yeah, y'all black of some work to do,
but very big, physical, athletic defensive tackle Will Howard in
the sixth round of Ohio State at Carson Brunner and
Dante Kent linebacker and corner in round seven.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Real good value. I believe in each round. Derek Harmon
fell because of injuries. And it's not one injury. It's
a lot of little things that led to his fall.
People thought he was a top fifteen pick. Fits that
three man line. Caleb Johnson definitely a Steelers type of back.
Jack Sawyer definitely a Steelers type of player who goes NonStop.
Not the greatest athlete in the world but makes plays.

(27:03):
Yah y'all black has got tremendous upside. He's just never
really hit his stride and it's just shown flashes. Will Howard,
I think was very telling. With the Shudor Sanders issue
that we just talked about. They take Will Howard over
Shador Sanders and then Carson Brunner. I was shocked he
went this late. I would be shocked if he doesn't
make the Steelers roster a tremendous off ball linebacker.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
No question about it. All right, let's jump now to
the AFC South. We'll pick up the pace. We had
to spend a lot of time on the quarterback thing, guys,
so we had to do it. I know it's a
big story. I wanted to get all of Tony's great
info on it. So we'll put the pedal to the
metal here on the last four on the last two
divisions at eight teams. All right, let's go to the
AFC South. Tony Texans nine picks. They traded out of

(27:48):
the first as I mentioned, for the Giants to select
Jackson Dart Jayden Higgins at picked thirty four ariante URSII,
their second second round pick at forty eight. I thought
that was good, you know, pretty good value for both
those guys. Love Jalen Nolan picks seventy nine. I had
him ranked higher than that. I think that was the
right the zone you had him in Tony in round three.
Jalen Smith, cornerback usc It picked ninety seven Wood he

(28:10):
marks his teammate the running back in one sixteen in
the fourth round, and then in the six two sixth
round picks. Two seventh round picks safety Jalen Reed, Penn
State quarterback Graham Mertz, Florida Keyonty Hamblton defensive tackle rutgers
In Luke Lache tight end out of Iowa with the
second seventh round pick.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
The first three picks made this drift for me. Jayden
Higgins a big bodied possession, a contested catch receiver who
ran faster than expected. They just got to teach him
to play to that speed.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Talk about the size with him and Nico Collins outside together.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Then Jalen Nole, the smaller guy. He needs space to work.
He struggles and contested throw situations, but if you get
him in space, he's lethal. Erseri had fallen because of
a They said he wasn't the hardest worker. He didn't
follow through. He's got tremendous upside and they need an
offensive lineman there. I also like Luke Lache in the

(29:00):
seventh round. He's a guy who off of the twenty
twenty two film, we thought, Wow, this is gonna be
the next great tight end to come out of Iowa
was injured in twenty twenty three spent most of the
year on the sidelines. If they get him back to
where he was previously, it was a home run selection.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Okay, let's jump over to the Indianapolis Colts. Tyler Warren
falls with them at fourteen. Tony the tight end out
of Penn State, j T. Tumalo. I think one of
the safer picks in this draft is gonna be a
really good edge player, strong player, big long arms. Justin Wally,
cornerback out of Minnesota. In around three Jalen Travis and
those are the two when I talk about quarnerbacks setting
pushed up. Jalen Smith and Justin Waller were two of
the quarterbacks I was thinking about at the back of

(29:37):
round three because it was just a very shallow group
in my opinion. At least round four, Jalen Travis offensive tackle,
Iowa State developmental guy. He might have move inside round five.
I love the DJ Gidden's pick. I think that's really
good value for them. As a backup running back out
of Kansas State, Riley Leonard the quarterback had a Notre
Dame very much in that Richardson Daniel Jones mole where

(29:58):
big bodied and can run a little bit. I thought
that was interesting. Tim Smith, solid defensive tackle of Alabama
and then Hunter Wooler out of Wisconsin the linebackerun around seven.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Riley Leonard and that Richardson Molden that he's probably you
could say he's a better athlete than he is a quarterback,
and he's allowed to go learn to become a passer.
Tyler Warren fills the need at tight end. They were
going tight end a round one, whichever one was there.
Tam Moloa is a terrific edge rusher. Keep an eye
on the fourth round pick, Jalen Travis. They wanted to
come out of here with an offensive lineman. Jalen Travis

(30:26):
of Iowa State by way of Princeton, played left tackle
last year at Iowa State. He's a tall guy who
can bend his knees. He blocks with leverage. I project
him to the right side, which I think is where
he'll going to be. Don't be surprised. By the end
of the twenty twenty five season, Jalen Travis is the
cult starting right tackle.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oo. I like that. All right, let's go to the Jaguars.
Tony here nine picks for them. We talked about the
trade up for Travis Hunter second round pick and one
next year to move up three spots, and they say
they're gonna use him, maybe not full time, but significantly
on both sides of the ball. Then they have two
third round picks back to back eighty eight eighty nine
Caleb Ranza out of Tulane. That was a little bit

(31:05):
early for me, and then Wyatt Milam out of West Virginia.
I though it's a really good pick at eighty nine.
I like that selection. Bachhell Tune. In round four, Trevor
Aten's getting to the end of his rookie deal. They
have Tank Bisbee Tooton certainly gives them some big playability
with some speed. Jack Kaiser in the fourth round, A
had a Notre Dame good linebacker, Jaylem mcleoud linebacker out
of Auburn. Round six with Rayon Lane out of Navy

(31:27):
the safety, and then Jode Manheim the center out of
USC undersize player in round seven with Quinn Allen, your guy,
the running back out of Syracuse.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Interesting draft. I mean, we talk about Travis Hunter all day.
The price they paid for him was steep. He'd better
pan out because that's trade is the one that if
it doesn't pan out, general managers and coaches get fired fired.
I agree with your Caleb Resnor is a size speed guy.
Is he nickelback? Is he dined back? Is he a safety?
He's got upside, but you got to develop him.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Not very big either. Smaller player Wyatt.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Millim College projects to guard. He was terrific at guard
at the senior ball. I think that was good to
solidify the interior of that offensive line. I agree with
you about Touton and Leaquin Allen kind of play off
etach other Allen is a stronger pounder on the inside
who is an exceptional Hals catcher out of the backfield.
Touton has got tremendous speed and he can turn the perimeter.

(32:20):
One other guy I want to talk about here, Jack Kaiser.
Jack Kaiser. I think you know Jack Kaiser is a
smart guy. He's instinctive and then he ran much faster
than we thought of that and he was good at
the Senior Bowl Man, and I mean he's a three
down guy. To get him in the fourth round, you know,
it's interesting they got some good players. Everyone's going to
be focusing on that trade and Travis Hunter, but they

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otherwise they filled some need with solid play.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
And Kaiser is one of those guys that, you know what,
like five days after the National title game, he's in
Mobile playing the Senior Bowl, which was great. And you
get the sense, Tony that the Jaguars and Liam Collen
wants to remake that running back room a little bit.
With atn and Bigsby already there and they've been good
players for them, but adding Tunan Allen to your point,

(33:05):
they do compliment each other, well, I almost feel like
they're trying to remake that room. I want to be surprised.
You talk about like Dallas needing a running back. There's
another team you mentioned that he needed a running back. I
wouldn't be surprised if Atm or Bigsby at some point
might get moved With the additions of those two rookie ess.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I'm surprised they didn't add a tight end because as
the reporting was, when they lost Evan Ingram, that's right
when they cut them, right when it looked like the
Jaguars were gonna take Ashton Genty with that fifth pick.
I had said the game plan was to go in
and just add weapons for Trevor Lawrence, and that's exactly
what they did. They also got up some help on

(33:42):
the offensive line, so I was more surprised that they
didn't look at the tight end position, especially later in
the draft, when guys like Roonda Yatson were available.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
All right, let's go to the Titans. Here nine picks
for them. Tony cam Ward first overall, your guy, Olofemi
Oladjo in round number two. I thought he might get
the round three, but he's so much physical, physical traits
are off the charts. Well, yeah, smart kid, exactly. He
goes in round two. Kevin Winston Junior, the big physical
safety at a Penn State. In round three. Hit in
ACL this year. Tremair Dike, the wide receiver out of Florida,

(34:11):
big size, big speed guy. Tested really well. Gunner Helm.
I thought, that's a nice pick. The tight end out
of Texas at picked one in the fourth round. And
then Elik I am an or Tony the Stanford wide
receiver pick thirty six. I thought those are some really
good value selections there with weapons for cam Ward Jackson
Slater Sacramento State won sixty seven. And then you have

(34:32):
Marcus Harris and Khalim Mullings the Calla and Michigan players,
but they.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Did a good jubb away through. I thought Dyke was
selected a little bit earlier. He does Wisconsin transfer to
play to Flower last year, does have some return skills.
Femiolo Daju one of my favorites. I mean, a guy
who you know was an inside linebacker UCLA, moved the
outside linebacker, just destroyed everybody at the senior ball. A
smart guy, just an interesting guy to speak with at

(34:58):
dinner with him, I texted after he was selected. He's
a really good guy and easy guy to root for.
I am Monora. A Monora I think is a Titans
type of receiver, big bodied, contested catch guy who's just
got to improve his route runner or expand his route running.
And Jackson Slater guard can play also play center. I
thought that was good value.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
In round five, you turned him into a Banora. That
was pretty good alright's right, alright, know exactly? Oh to
him for sure. After getting drafted. I thought that was
a nice I thought it was a nice draft by
the Titans. Yeah. And then the word is, by the way,
we'll get to the best undrafted players in a second.
I think I saw last night that Zavi ostrepo Is
is going there as an undrafted guy to repair with camboard.

(35:41):
That makes sense. Let's go to the AFC East. The Bills,
well Tony, they wanted to fix their defense. They certainly
had enough players to try and do it. First five
picks on the defensive side of the ball. Maxwell Harrison,
the speedster corner out of Kentucky. TJ. Sanders, defensive tackle
out of South Carolina. Landon Jackson are kinsaw edge player,

(36:01):
Dion Walker, the gigantic interior defensive tackle. Jordan Hancock, cornerback
out of Ohio State in round five. Jackson Hall is
a blocking tight end. I don't know how many tight
ends the Bills think they need. With kin Kaida Knox
already there, He's in round five as well. Dorian Strong
I thought that was pretty good value for him. The
corner in around six out of Virginia Tech, Chase lunp

(36:23):
the Yukon offensive tackle in round six, and then Kden Prather,
the wide receiver out of Maryland in around seven.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
A lot of good potential defensive players here. I like TJ.
Sanders a lot. And then we said, well, maybe they
want to get help for at Oliver, but he's a
lot might get Oliver. I mean, not the biggest guy
in the world, but very explosive. He's very similar to
at Oliver one hundred percent. I'm with you, Yeah, So
I don't see if they wanted to get help for him,
why they draft the same type of guy. Although they
did come back with Dion Walker in the fourth round,

(36:51):
and if Dion Walker really can get his game back
to where it was in twenty twenty three and get
to the level where people think he should be, then
they hit a home run and they got to help
for Ed Oliver. I thought Landon Jackson in the third
round was phenomenal, phenomenal value who definitely fits that system.
I like the Hairston pick. I like the Dorrian Schwank pick.

(37:12):
As you also pointed out, a bigger, bigger cornerback who
really fits the mold of what the the type of
defense the Bills play.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Hey, look, we talked about the Chiefs, right, but these
better teams like the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Bills, part
of me, the Eagles. These are good teams. You're not
gonna have premium picks. You have to re sign your
own players. You're not gonna have a ton of money
to spend it fore agency. You gotta hit your draft picks.
And I thought some of those teams on the top
of the league did a really nice job with the

(37:41):
picks that they had trying to reinforce their rosters this year.
All right, let's go to the Dolphins. I'm sure Giant
fans don't want to hear that. I'm sorry, folks, but
it's it's It's true. Giants did really well too. But
so to the Eagles, all right, And I thought the
other NFC tam NFC teams actually had pretty good drafts
as well. All right, let's go to the Dolphins. Eight picks,
thirteenth overall. Kenneth Grant defense, tackle out of Michigan, thirty

(38:02):
seventh overall in the second round, Jonas savanea out of Arizona,
played tackle. There probably going to be a guard. I
like the Jordan Phillips value in round five. A really
good interior defensive lineman. Not a lot of pass rush
production in college, but he has the juice and he's
good against the run. Jason Marshall, cornerback out of Florida.
Dante Trader, junior safety out of Maryland. He had a

(38:22):
nice senior Bowl when we were down there. Oli Gordon
very udolphin zy like running back. You know they have
the two speed guys, but I think he really compliments
what they have well. Loved the Quinn yours picking around
seven Tony where he can sit behind to a learn
behind with a good offensive coach and Mike McDaniels. And
we know two had some injury issues, so he might
get into a game this year. And then Zeke Bigger

(38:44):
is the defensive tackle out of Georgia Tech.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
The only pick A selection I question here is Jason Marshall,
Florida in the fifth round. I mean he was more
bark than bite. He's got the size and speed, but
the production wasn't there and he was up and down.
Kenneth Grant I had him going to the Dolphins early
in my earlie mock drafts. I think him and Jordan
Phillips that's two terrific guys that fill in the center
of that defensive line that's been hurting since they lost

(39:09):
Christian Wilkins two years ago. Savanaa is a terrific, punching
him out type of lineman. I like Dante Trader. Dante
Trader is a great football player. He's a terrific athlete
who was an outstanding Alcross player. He just doesn't test
all that well, which is why he fell. And then
quin Youwers, who could be one of the biggest bargains

(39:30):
of the draft when he went in the seventh round.
I kept saying sixth round, but seventh round.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I guess yeah, I agree. I think good good players there,
all right. Patriots Tony eleven picks a lot of picks
for New England. Three in the seventh round. Let's go
through him real quick. Patriots Will Campbell fourth overall. Cheveon
Henderson good value with thirty eight. Him and Rondre Stevens
and are going to be a nice thunder un lightning
combination at running back. Kyle Williams. They finally get their
wide receiver at sixty nine. I think he'll be a

(39:55):
good player for them mid wide receiver with Stefan Diggs,
Jared Wilson, potential future starting center. So you get a
left tackle, you get a center in the same draft
out of Georgia. A couple fourth round picks Craig Woodson
at a cow good ball production, good player, Joshua Farmer,
good defensive tackle out of Florida State, Braden Swinston. I thought,
fifth round, that's good value out of LSU, good football
player as an edge Andres Borgalis out of Miami the kicker.

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And in sixth round and the seventh round picks tackle
Marcus Bryant, long snapper, Julian Ashby, and then Kobe Minor
at the cornerback out of Memphis.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
This was my favorite draft. I like it. They got
good players and they filled a lot of holes. Will
Campbell was probably the most pure left tackle, pass blocking
left tackle in this year's draft. John and I talked
about him at nauseum during the early during the season.
You know, if you get to Will Campbell late in
the second half of the LSU season, you have a

(40:48):
Pro Bowl type of left tackle or Pro Bowl tackle
type of tackle in the making. You mentioned it with
Treveon Henderson. Taking him in the second round works well.
With Ramadri Stevenson, home run hitting type of ball carrier.
Kyle Williams great route runner, polished. You know, the Patriots
have a history of drafting receivers that go nowhere. Hopefully

(41:10):
Kyle Williams breaks that curse. Jared Wilson potential starter down
the road. I think he's better athlete than he is
a football player, but he's got some upside. Craig Woodson,
a hard hitting safety, and Joshua Farmer in the fourth round.
I had him going in the third round of my
mock draft, surprisington the New York Giants. He fell in
the fourth to the fourth round because of injury concerns.

(41:30):
But he's got size, he's explosive, he's starting to hit
his stride so again. And even Braden Swinston, you've got
a situational pass rusher. So I think with one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven picks, the first seven picks and even even the
kicker eight picks. I mean, these are guys that are
not only going to be on the Patriots roster in
twenty twenty five, but playing big roles.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Throwing the long snapper who I'm sure you go there,
you goh, multiple special teams impact players there all right,
final team here Tony the New York Jets, armand Membo
at seventh over they right tackle him and Olu fashion
now can be bookends for a long time. Mason Taylor
at forty two, that's right where I think most people
had him. Maybe a little bit later. Some people had
him into the first round. Good all around tight end,

(42:12):
no wow me skills, but he's better than averaging good
at everything that he does. Az aar A Thomas, the
big bump and rum cornerback that dropped all the way
at seventy three. Some people had him as a late one,
so I think the Jets should be happy to get
him at the start of the third round. Two fourth
round picks Arian Smith the speedster that has trouble catching
the ball out of Georgia, Malchai Moore out of Alabama

(42:33):
the safety, and then two fifth round picks Francisco myaga,
did you have any other pronounce that?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
One? MAUI goa sure, and then uh, it's Maui and
goa right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Okay, yeah, I guess it kind of is. And then
in pick one seventy six, Tyler Barn the defensive end
out of Miami breakdown the Jets for me tone I knew.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
For a month. I said, amm Memble was the player
that they wanted. I love him. I think he could
be the best offensive lineman to come from this draft.
He's a terrific, dominant right tackle prospect who's an outstanding athlete.
The combiners great, the tape was even better in the
past two years. Doesn't have the great length that you
maybe want in a right tackle, but the playing style

(43:13):
is there. Mason Taylor, if you follow me on Twitter,
I said a couple hours before the draft, this was
the guy that they were targeting around to. There was
some question as to whether or not he was going
to be there. He fell to them. As John said,
he's good in all areas. He's not spectacular. He's not
a down the field type of receiver like Arroy Is.
He's not a Jacksonhawes type of blocker, but he's good

(43:33):
in all aries. He's got great bloodlines, of course, with
his father, the Jason Taylor Azariah Thomas. The reason he
fell was because he ran four or five a to
pro day, and he couldn't run fast. But he's someone
who showed consistent development in his game. I thought he
was terrific at the senior ball.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, it's funny we saw the lack of speed at
the senior ball when he goted Tess Johnson, who also
ran for.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Malachi more Small, but smart and instinctive, the type of
defensive back that Aaron Glenn had success with in Detroit.
But Bryan Branch, Yeah, Malachai Moore is not the same,
but he's the same same type of athlete or at
that level. But he's the same type of player. Tyler
Barron in the fifth round could be a steal for

(44:21):
the Jets. He is an outstanding defensive end, a terrific
pass rusher. He tested off the charts. The problem is
the motor isn't always running. So if they're able to
get Tyler Baron to play the way he's capable of
each and every down, they hit a home run in
the fifth round.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
All right, Tony, let's do a couple of superlosives. Sierra,
Let's do who are your favorite value picks in the
draft this year, and then we'll hit your favorite players
that you have left. Who are your favorite value picks
in the draft.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Well, let's talk about I mean the two quarterbacks Quen
you were going to the seventh round. Should Door Sanders
going in the fifth round? Those were those were outstanding there.
I thought Marcus bow of the Giants going in the
fifth round was a great value. Ty Robinson one of
my personal favorites going to the Eagles in round four.
I thought it was an outstanding selection. Damien Martinez in

(45:07):
the seventh round by the Seattle Seahawks, Sorry about that,
losing my voice was great value. I mentioned a Manor
to the Titans in the fourth round, Danny Stutsman to
the Saints in round four, a Rendez Gatson to the
Charges in the fifth round. I had Gatson rated higher
than most the former receiver who moved to tight end
John and I saw him at the Shrine Bowl at

(45:29):
two hundred and forty seven pounds and he didn't miss
a beat. He was easily moving about the field. He's
a great pass catcher. And then Dorian Strong, as I
mentioned earlier, in the sixth round by the Buffalo Bills,
fits the physical prototype that they want. He's a decent athlete.
He shows terrific ball skills. How in the heck he
felt of the sixth round is beyond me. But I

(45:50):
think the Bill's got a terrific cornerback there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
And then Demian Martinez you mentioned around seven. I think
that's just great value to and he's behind a couple
of good young running backs there, but they'll figure out
what to get him on the field. He's a he's
a really really good player, all right. And then finally
Tony of the undrafted folks. So we better wrap up
here before your you know, Larynce falls out of your throat. Here,
who are your favorite undrafted guys and we'll see where
it becomes official. Of these guys sign over the next

(46:15):
couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Two cornerbacks Kobe Bryant from Kansas who we saw at
the at the Shrine.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
He was great.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
He was great, but he wouldn't shut up, so that
might be an issue. I mean, he's a terrific cornerback.
He's very feisty, may have turned some people off. Zia Alexander,
not the fastest guy.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
In the world.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Came from a small school. I thought he played terrific
last year at LSU. Joshua Simon, I'm shocked did he
get drafted. Joshua Simon's one of those move tight ends,
get down the field, catch the ball. Needs work on
his game, but a developmental prospect. Jamon Dumas. Johnson had
some off the field character was if you want to
say that turn people off, but still sixty pounds. He's

(46:52):
a tough, punch in the face linebacker. We saw him
at the Trimble made some nice plays in coverage.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I talked to him down there too. A really nice kid.
Yes kids, I.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Think I think people have the wrong perception of him.
One of the first things he did when he got
his nil money was by his mom a home. But
he came from a tough background. He came from a
tough place, and it just maybe the perception was wrong.
I love Andrew Armstrong. Isaac Tesla went in the third round.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I couldn't believe Andrew Armstrong didn't get especially if he
ran four four to five. I know, I couldn't believe.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
It in the production. Chared Ivy of Mississippi. Justin Barren,
who signed with I wrote it out, tweeted out last
night I forgot.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
And I think Andrew Armstrong son with the Dolphins, or
at least that's what the reporter is, which would be
a nice spot for him and Clay Webb.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I mean he's a guy who did very well in
the lead up to the draft.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Fields stuff with him.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, exactly. Got to keep the lid on it there, Clay.
I mean, he's got some upside. He did really well
at the senior balls. We saw he did and he
had a decent combine.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, so a lot of good names that out there
for this UDFA class. Tony, this was it's fun. We're
gonna have one more podcast next week. Appreciate it and
next week, Tony, you better start working on it. He's
gonna have his watch well, we'll call it. I'm just
gonna call it his watch list for for twenty twenty six.
So if people out there like me need to do
some summer scouting, I'll walk off. Tony's want to do

(48:16):
thirty You can give me thirty guys. Can you get me?
All right? Give me everybody you want to give me.
So break that down you want to do it.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I know we're gonna talk about a lot about the quarterbacks,
because yeah, sure, what a great quarterback classes agree, and
we'll get into that.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
I think they have some work to do before it's
a quarterback, I would agree with you. So we'll see
how that goes. We'll talk about the other positions as well.
Break it down however you want. You want to bring
it down altogether, do position by position however you want
to do. With Tony, we are a slave to your
draft genius.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
All right, that's all the time we have here on
draft season, on part two of our Draft review, looking
at the AFC and some of our drafts deplorids as well.
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We loved having Tony in the Hackensack Meridian Health podcast studio.

(49:04):
Keep getting better and now he goes away into his hole.
We're not gonna see him in person again for a year. Enjoy,
thank you, and we'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Tom I'm actually going to the city tomorrow to walk around,
just to get out of my office.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I like it very good, and I'm gonna i'm lawn
today and we were recording this on Sunday. I'm gonna
go watch the Knicks hopefully beat the Pistons in Game four.
Of their playoff series for Tony Paulid. I've jod smelt
we'll see it next week for one more draft season
before we take three months off and enjoy life a
little bit until then.