November 25, 2025 • 46 mins
The guys talk about this past weekend’s college football games, preform a mock draft of the top 10 picks, and answer fan questions.
:00 - Arizona vs Baylor
4:55 - Ohio State vs Rutgers
6:15 - Arkansas vs Texas
7:00 - Top 10 Mock Draft
33:40 - Fan questions
42:45 - This weekend’s games
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's now officially open.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is Draft Season, brought to you by Moody's, a
proud sponsor of the New York Football Giants. I am
John Schmelck, joined as always by Tony Pauline, our resident
draft expert.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Tony. Happy Thanksgiving, my friend. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm okay, John. Happy Thanksgiving to you and all of
our viewers. It's a great time of year. Thanksgiving a
great holiday, four day weekend, it's nice, a lot of football,
a lot to eat, Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, It's gonna
be fun.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I got into a debate with Mark Melussis, who I
do the Saturday Morning Big Boo kick of Live show with,
and I said I think Thanksgiving is the best holiday.
And he was aghast that I thought it was a
better holiday than Christmas. And my argument was that, A
it's a very American holiday for one. Number two, you
also have, you know, the whole like being thankful what
you have thing. I think it's kind of like a
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really good message to be totally honest with you, especially
in this day and age. So I vote I love Christmas.
By the way, I have nothing against Chris this. I
vote Thanksgiving over Christmas. I gotta be honest with you, Tony.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
No, I go with Meluss. I mean, I love Thanksgiving.
Thank you. Thanksgiving's like the kickoffs, and Christmas in more
ways than one, is like balls season. I mean, since
I was a kid, I'm beag Christmas gutt But I
enjoyed the whole time, from literally the days before Thanksgiving
through Christmas and New Year's I just enjoy it all.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And by the way, I drive people nuts because the
day after Thanksgiving, I already have all my favorites set
up on my serious and on my web streams. I
basically have Christmas use of going in my office for
like most of the next month. So I drive the
people around me nuts. But yes, I am all about it.
I'm happy to kick off the season.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
All right, we better take it. We better take DNA test. John.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We may be we may be brothers from a different
mother or.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Something like that. You can't beat a baby. All right,
here we.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Go, busy show today, folks, We're gonna do a little
bit of a recap of the week in college football.
We'll look ahead as always at dead of the show,
and Antoni, I gotta kind of do a top ten
mock draft here of what we think this top ten
might look like, which, by the way, Tony, I had
some trouble with I was going through this for like
two hours trying to match players with teams because we
weren't doing any trades here. But we'll see what both
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of us came up with. He did it separately, and
we'll compare it our contrast. What our groups look like.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Should be fun, It.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Should be all right, Tony, you were pumped up about
the Arizona Baylor game over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
What'd you think once you watched it?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And it was a good game for three quarters And
there's actually one of those games where every player that
I mentioned I was looking forward to seeing play played well.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I mean, first of all, you start with Arizona who
won the game.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Genesis Smith, their safety, who I'm heard very likely is
a good chance he's going to enter the draft, had
a force fumble, had a fumble recovery. He's athletic, he
sells out, he's instinctive, he does a great job reading
and diagnosing plays. And I was texting a scout friend
during the game and they sent to me to said,
this kid's for real, and you got to keep an
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eye on him, because you know, Arizona's had a pretty
good year this season. No one really talks about Genesis
Smith and what looks like it's going to be a
very as usual average safety class except for the guy
at the top. Traydon Stokes is another cornerback you're talking
mid day three. Decent size, physical, really better facing the action.
But another defensive back from the Arizona Wildcats who reached
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the plays very well. Has a nice break to the ball.
He made a really important interception in the third quarter
as Baylor was going in to bring the score closer
that kind of blew the game open for Arizona. So
another guy to keep an eye on Sawyer Robertson, the
quarterback from Baylor. Day three guy. He's patient, he's deliberate,
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he's disciplined. Made one bad pass, but he's accurate. He
doesn't wow you, he's just very efficient. A Day three
guy that could be a number two QB. John Cameron
if you're looking for a bigger possession wide out six
two nineteen pounds, played well, tracks the ball in the air,
caught everything that was thrown to him. And Michael Trigg
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is gonna be one of the more interesting players as
we get closer to the draft. Sort of a tight
end h BAC type guy. He's big, he's an athletic,
he moves around the field well. He does have drops.
He's had drops in the pass. He caught everything on Saturday.
Gets a little melvy at times. He's seeing very chatty.
You rather have him focused on the football game. But
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he is a playmaker at that tight end position. He's
got these inside six three and a half two hundred
and fifty two pounds plays in the four sixes. He's
a guy that's gonna get a lot of There's gonna
be a lot of opinion on Michael Trigg. When he's good,
he's very good, but he'll break your heart at times
with some you know, out of the ordinary drops passes
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that go slipping through his hands.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And Antonio also has some background too.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
This is a third school, he left his previous school
and you know circumstances that lets some people some questions
about so so now we keep an eye on with
him as you go through the draft process. Ohio State's
been dealing with some injuries and wide receiver Cardinal Tates
been heard. Jeremiah Smith is playing through something they're very
vague with injuries when on't know zactly what's going on there.
But he gave their tight end, Max Claire tense to
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show out.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Last week he was terrific against Rutgers. Seven receptions, one
hundred and five yards, one TD. You know, it's funny
because we talked about Max Claire and we said on
the show, you know, with Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate,
you're only going to get so many opportunities. And on
the broadcast they were talking about him being a nice
safety valve. In that Ohio State passing game, he was
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the main guy because he had to be. And you
understand why scouts had him graded as a Day two
pick coming into the season because he moves incredibly well.
He's fluid in every direction on the field. He catches
the ball like a wide receiver. Blocke is not his forte.
He's more of a second level type of blocker that
needs a running start. But you see that, you see
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the abilities there and the football skills are there, and
you know, transfers to a house name from Purdue understandable
because Purdue has been a losing program.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
He's only going to get the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
See the ball so many times he made he really
cashed in on the opportunity Saturday. Let's see what happens
this past Saturdaygainst Rutgers. Let's see what happens is coming
Saturday against Michigan, depending on the health of those two receivers.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
No question about it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And then Tony, you like the matchup between Quincy Roads junior,
the edge rusher for Arkansas going against Trevor Guoseby, Texas
offensive tackle.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, I mean Gooseby got the best of Rhads when
they went head to head, and you can see the
upside in both players. But both guys really, in my opinion,
need to go back to school. And I was texting
with somebody familiar with the Texas program. They say, Gooseby
the left tackle for the Texas Lawnghorns. It's fifty to
fifty as to whether or not he's going to come out.
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He's athletic, but he does a lot of bending at
the waste. He over extends in the blocks, which will
get him killed on the next level. Rhodes is very athletic.
He shows good movement skills. He can rush the passer,
but he's got to get stronger and he's got to
develop more moves to get off blocks, because once he
gets locked up in the block, it's game over. I
like the upside of both of those guys. I like
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them as prospects, but they need a lot of work
on their game.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
All right, Tony, let's get to our mock draft here.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
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All right, so we'll need a little mock draft here.
Then we have them questions as well from the fans
out there. They have some good draft questions. We'll get
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to that. So Tony first overall here, and I'm going
to say this with the first two picks, this is
our draft order that me and Tony are working off of.
It's Titans, Giant, Saints, Jets, Raiders, Browns, Commanders, Bengals, Cardinals, Dolphins.
Those are our top ten here. This order is going
to change. So this is more figuring out what players,
the strength of the class, who's there, what team needs
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are very early in the process.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Obviously, with free agencies still on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We don't know what the coaches are gonna be for
some of these teams, we don't know what the needs
are gonna be exactly. But just to give you an
idea of what the conversation might be with these teams,
and I'll start here right now, the Titans and the
Giants are the first two picks. The reason the Giants
have the second overall pick is because they have not
had their buy yet. That's gonna happen next week once
they have their buy, and I think they'll probably win
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a couple of their last four games. The way they're playing,
I think they're gonna drop in the order. But as
it is now, Titans and Giants are the first two teams.
And both these teams and we're not doing trades here
will be on the phone looking the trade back for
a team looking for a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You know you would think so.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I mean, I remember when when the Bears had the
first pick of the draft and people were talking about
a team moving up to get Brys Young. I said,
I didn't think anybody who was gonna move up to
get to trade up and get Brys young Lo and behold,
here come the Carolina Panthers. They give away a ton
of picks. Hasn't worked out for them today. You would
expect both any team that's at the top looking to
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trade down. I know that's one of the questions we
have later on, which we'll get to it. It's just conscience.
Unless there is a Peyton Manning or Trevor Lawrence, although
he hasn't panned out. It as a way we thought,
unless there is that generational type of talent at the
top of the draft, you're always gonna that lock. Got
the player you proceed to be a lock, you're always
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gonna look to trade down. And there's no player like
that in this year's draft. And just before we start,
I didn't force quarterbacks into my top ten.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I say, well, this team.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Needs a quarterbacks, I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Gonna put my twentieth rank player there.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I tried to stay true to my board rather than
go with team needs.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And we'll talk about that as we go on.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I was more predictive, so we'll see how this goes in.
This will be interesting. All right, Let's start with the
Tennessee Titans. Here Tony and look, I think they would
love with this pick to try to build around cam
Ward on the offensive side out of the ball with
an offensive lineman or with a wide receiver. Here's the problem,
nobody's good enough to be selected first overall at those positions.
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The good news and also the bad news for the
Titans is that their defense is also not very good,
so they need players all over the place. So I
want the guy who I think is the best player
in this draft, and I gave them Marvel Reese. The linebackers,
last edge player out of Ohio State. You can play
them on the edge, you can play them a linebacker.
The Titans need help with both spots. So I went
Rvl Reese number one overall to the Titans.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I agree with you completely. I'd love to get a
big left tackle there. There's no one there, and there's
no left tackles there. Really in the first round. The receivers,
there's gonna be gonna be a lot of opinion about
the receivers. None of these guys pan out great. Out
of his top ten picks. For me, I stayed defense,
but I went with Ruben Bain. The reason I want
with Ruben Bain is, amongst other positions, The Titans have
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been in need of an edge rusher of somebody who
can get to the passer for the longest time.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Now I know they play at three to four.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
They drafted Iemi from Uclao, though he's on injured reserve
now in the second round. Like you said, a lot
depends on who the coaches and the defensive scheme that
they employed. I have my concerns about Ruby. Bain kind
of wears down. He's got to be quicker getting off blocks.
The production isn't there, but he's getting better on the
football field. He's got growth potential and he fits the
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need and he's one of the best players in this
year's draft.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
All right, Tony, let's go to number two. I'll let
you lead off here with the New York Football Giants.
Who do you have them selecting in your mock?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, you know again, I'd love to put a game
changing receiver here, but there's none on the board. I'd
love to have a big time cornerback here, but there's
no cornerback is really worth a top eight pick. I
wouldn't even mind having a big right tackle. All the
Giants offensive line is played well. Still, you know you
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can improve the offensive line, maybe you pushed the tackle
into guard. Came down the two players. For me, one
of them was Maiah Love because I thought, you know what,
you want to make Jackson Dart better, and Jackson Dart
has shown some incredible ability. You get a playmaker like
Jeremiah Love. If teams put seven to eight guys in
the box, they'll get beat by Jackson Dart. If they
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play a regular defense, Jeremiah Love will beat him. But
when you look at the Giants, the problem with the
Giants has been defense, especially stopping you run. So I
had them taking rvel Reese, who you have the Titans
taking with the first selection, because I think r vel
Rees indirectly will help Dexter Lawrence will help the run defense.
He's a three down linebacker. You can put him on
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the field and third and short to stop the run,
keep him on the field and third and five to
rush the passer, cover the pass, and he's just hitting
his stride. He's just gonna get better and better and better.
I have the Giants taking rvel Reese, and.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I assume what the Giants say, and you have him
as an off ball linebacker right because with Abdul Carter,
Brian Burns and Keevon Thibodeau. And this is gonna you know,
I'm I might as we'll go with the question here.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Frank Pafone.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
One part of his question later on is do you
see him as an edge or a linebacker prospect? And clearly,
if you're going to the Giants here, you see him
as an off ball linebacker.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I see him as an off ball linebacker who will be
effective on the blitz when you ask him the blitz.
I hate when they take these guys and they kind
of pigeonhole them or they corner him two. Well, he's
an EDG dresher, you know, is you're an off ball
linebacker or vel reason, in my opinion, can do it,
can do it all. I think he's better as an
off ball linebacker. But I think he's also a guy
that you can use in certain situations, maybe his own
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blitz and drop off gul carter back off the line
or k bon Fibodeau, and he's gonna do that job,
that sort of a job for you regardless. I absolutely think,
you know, third and five, he can cover space, he
can cover the tight end, he can cover the running
back out of the backfield.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
All right, Tony. This was tough because, like.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You said, I'm trying to get the Giants a wide
receiver here with their first round pick, and I think
eventually the Giants will be picking lower than this, and
I think they will have a chance to get one.
The wide receiver I'm looking to get because I think
he complements the league neighbor as well as Carnell Tape
as a taller guy that can get vertical, and he's six',
three he's a good rout Runner Ohio states. PEDIGREE i
think it's a safe. Pick that's the wide RECEIVER i
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would try to get for The. GIANTS i haven't finished
all my work on the wide receivers, yet but that's
WHERE i stand right. Now BUT i can't pick him second.
Overall he's just not good enough to be picked second.
Overall so for, me Arvrel reese is. Gone SO i
thought About Ruben, bain who you went first overall To.
Tennessee but The giants have three edge rushers, already AND
i don't Think bain is quite big enough to be
a full time defensive. Tackle So i'm, like all, right
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where DO i go? Now to your, POINT i couldn't
find a. Cornerback as much As Ben Short delane has
played great this, YEAR i can't pick this guy second.
OVERALL i just can't do. It So i'm going with
the guy who's a big upside. Pick and even though
he's listed as an, EDGE i think as he ages
gets older and, bigger he's gonna be a three technique
defensive tackle in The National Football. League i'm Going Keldric
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falk here out Of. Auburn he's already a good run.
Stopper he is to work on his pass. Rush you
Have Dexter lawrence as your nose. Tackle The giants run
defense has been awful again this. Year you get him
in there at the three. Technique you put him next
To decks and those two dens to g ed rushers
With Abdul, Carter Brian, Burns Caveon, thibodau however's on the,
field AND i think you got a really good defensive front. There,
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again maybe not the biggest position to, need but The
giants certainly have needed help on that defensive front to
stop the, run AND i Think Keldrick falk will do. That,
remember just twenty years, old he's six, six two eighty.
Five he can grow into that. Role So i'm Going Keldrick,
falk did you Give Jeremiah love any consideration at this?
PICK i can't do. It Camp scataboo was so. GOOD
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i know he's, hurt but when he, played he was so.
Good The giants have run the ball well With, Tyrone
tracy and Frankly. Tony i'm not, reliving relitigating A Saquon
barkley top five running back pick to The. Giants i've
lived that. LIFE i don't want to live that life.
Again so, NO i.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Didn't so your confident That scataboo will come back one
hundred percent because that was an the next, season that
was an ugly.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Injury. Yeah, Yeah, LOOK i don't. Know i'm not a.
DOCTOR i have no. IDEA i hope that he.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
DOES i can't justify where The giants are selecting a
running back in the top.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
FIVE i just can't do.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It all, right, Right i'll go pick number three to
The saints And Ruben bain's left on the, Board, tony
how COULD i not pick? HIM i Think Tyler shuk's
been pretty good for. THEM i thought about a quarterback,
here but The saints have not forced that, position and
this is not an overwhelming, Class SO i went With
Rubin bain. Here you, Know benson likes picking guys up
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front on the defensive.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Line their pass rush is not what it used to.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Be they need a pass. Rusher Ruben bain still. There
this was one of the easier ones for. Me If
ban was still on the, BOARD i gave him to
The saints offensive.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Line defensive line and defensive ends and offensive. TACKLES i,
mean that's them for The, saints right you said. Something
Tyler shunk has been pretty good for, them and we'll
have to see How Kyler schunk finishes out the. Season
but with the third, PICK i gave Them Fernando, mendoza
thinking That mendoza is going to be an upgrade Over Tyler,
shuck who played, well was great last season At, louisville
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had an up and down senior.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Career With, mendoza he was good At.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Cal he's been in much better this year At. INDIANA
i love the upside, trajectory which is SOMETHING i put
a priority on at the quarterback. Position but, again If Tyler,
shuck who has not been, banned really finishes out the
season with the, fileurry then The saints don't have to
take a quarterback with that first.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Pick as of right, NOW i have them Taking.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Mendoza all, Right, tony you're first in with Your jets
and number.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Four you, know when The jets Traded Mod gardner And
Quinton williams right before the, DEADLINE i thought it was
kind of, ridiculous to tell you the. TRUTH i, mean
they gave away two cornerstone players on, defense two guys
that play critical positions in their, prime guys that were
locked up in their. Contract they weren't imminent the free,
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agents although they was talked That williams wanted a better.
Deal you know what player doesn't want a better deal
in THE. Nfl and they got back a lot of
draft picks and two underachieving, Players so they got back
a lot of Unknown everybody, said, well you know they
did this because they need the. Quarterback, well, yeah they
need a, quarterback but now they also need a cornerback
and a defensive tackle because he traded away two outstanding.
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Players i'm not going to force a quarterback. HERE i
can't Take Ty. Sampson you, know he started nine games in.
COLLEGE i JUST i can't do it BECAUSE i understand
that it's easier to miss on an early pick this
year with the hardcap, said with the rookie hardcat salary,
cap and with the fact that quarterbacks these days are
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traded and cut like never, before and you get a reclamation.
Project but you, still if you have a top ten,
picks you want to hit it on that. Pick you
want to get a good. Player The jets secondary is
an absolute. MESS i mean it was a mess before
they Traded Almond. Gardner really Since week, one the receivers
are open all over the. FIELD i don't know if
it's a schematic. THING i don't know what it. Is
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the head coach is a Former Pro bowl defense. Cornerback
with the fourth pick of the, Draft i'm Taking Caleb.
Downs The jet safety spot has been a sore spot
for a long. Time downs is he doesn't have the
great stats this, year but he's being asked to do
different things and he's doing them very. Well and we've
seen in the past the guy is a. Playmaker was
a playmaker At. Alabama he was fenamenal last year At Ohio.
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State he's doing a good job with At Ohio. State
he's asking him to do this. Year he's more than
just a downhill. Safety he's got great, Range he's got
terrific ball. SKILLS i look At Aaron glen the defensive.
BACK i look At Caleb. DOWNS i look at the
need of The jets, secondary And Caleb downs is head
and shoulders a better prospect than any quarterback that's available
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on the. Board maybe The jets get a quarterback with
their second first round, Pick maybe they move up and
get a. QUARTERBACK i can't Take Ty simpson or The
oregon quarterback Over Caleb downs.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Here i'm Taking Caleb downs for The. Jets.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, LOOK i think he's the best non quarterback, left
AND i could argue he should have been picked earlier
than this, already to be honest with he just based
on quality of. Player so no argument from, There. Tony
but for, me For Nando mendozo was still on the,
board SO i gave him to The. Jets, now The
jets might choose to be patient. Here clearly they're taking
a law long term building outlook with the way they've.
Traded to your, point those players their stack, pick not
just in this year's, draft but next year's draft as.
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Well do they like next year's quarterback class? Better that's
a risky. Proposition you never know what the quarterback class
is going to look like at this time of, year
so you have a chance to Get. MENDOZA i gave
The Jets mendoza at number four because, frankly they need
a quarterback and they just can't go through another year
like this with just nothing at that. Spot then you
got to The raiders at number, Five, tony and this
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is one of the ONES i went back and forth
on a few different, times and, again they need an offensive,
lineman they need a wide. Receiver couldn't find one THAT
i thought was good enough to give him to him
at number.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
FIVE i just couldn't do.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
IT i know a lot of people With Jordan tyson this, High,
tony the guy can't stay. HEALTHY i can't pull the
trigger on a fifth overall, pick as much AS i
like the player On tyson so offensive, line same. Deal
you Know Spencer, fano now We, NOAH i can't get
myself sold on one of those guys at fifth. Overall
and THEN i got, thinking, well who Is Mark davis
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is number one advisor that he likes to listen To Tom,
brady AND i think when you watch Ty simpson play,
quarterback that's a quarterback That Tom brady is going to,
SAY i think this guy can be a really GOOD nfl.
Player and While Gino smith is still, good he's, old
he's in his, thirties he only has a couple of years.
Left it was a short term deal that they extended him.
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To So i'm going to Go Tye simpson here to The,
raiders AND i think if they do this, trade they
can then Trade Gino smith to maybe a team that's
a little bit quarterback, desperate that doesn't get their quarterback and.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
They want to kind of take a quick.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Jump i'm looking at You Minnesota, vikings who maybe DECIDE
jj McCarthy's not your, guy and they use that pick
then on a wide receiver and offensive. Lineman SO i
Think Tom brady falls in love with Ty simpson who comes,
out and that's who The raiders select to pick number.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Five definitely at a.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
QUARTERBACK i agree with you one hundred on the needed offensive,
line but they also have needs a defensive. Line AND
i know in your mock Draft Keldrick falk right now
is Wearing giant, blue but he's available to The. Raiders
they need a guy that can rush the. Edge they
play a four man. Line they need help on that defensive.
Line it's been a. Disaster it hasn't been good and
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started With Christian wilkins earlier this. Offseason So i'm gonna
go With Keldrick. FALK i think it checks a lot of.
Boxes they need a guy who can rush the. Passer
he can do. That you mentioned his size and the
ability to add growth to his frame and become a
better run.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Defender that.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Helps and you, know The raiders in the past have
gotten one with, big mean defensive, linemen big, productive athletic defensive.
Lineman this is kind of a throwback. Pick he's the
top rated player on my. Board it. Fits.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
INDEED i think it's a good pick for The.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Raiders and the REASON i trouble with The Raiders tony
is because they do have needs everywhere, defense offensive, line, wide.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Receiver you can go any direction.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Here but, again Since falk was gone for, ME i
couldn't find that that. Guy and you, KNOW i thought
ABOUT i Had caleb downs in the slot a few different,
times BUT i eventually decided to slide.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Him down a little. Bit all, right you're up with
The browns. Sixth, Overall.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Browns have done a good job on defense And they've
done almost an equally terrible job on, offense specifically on
the offensive, line, quarterback and they need some.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Receivers they done a good job at running. Back.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Uh you, know a couple of years, ago we looked
at The browns offensive line and we thought that it
was going to be a.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Strength they had some good players up.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
There they did From alabama and they Drafted willis has
really never panned. Out Jack conklin's in and out of
the lineup with. Injury you, know you look at their
offensive line. Now Cam, robinson the left, tackle is gonna
be a free agent after this. Season The browns have
it out On Jack, conkland so they have a really
good defensey with the signings in the off, Season Carson,
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SWETZINGER i think is gonna be Defensive rookie of The,
year as he will. Deserves you got to focus on,
offense and people will say, quarterback, quarterback. Quarterback i'm gonna
go with the offensive. Line my first offensive tackle comes
off the. Board i'm gonna With Spencer, fanell WHO i
project as a right. TACKLE i know people like him a,
guard BUT i think he's gonna be a right tackle
in THE. Nfl you, know got to do something to
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help that offensive. Line it's gonna help whatever quarterback you
have playing back. There it's also gonna Help Quinn Shawn,
jenkins who's played well when he's on the.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
FIELD i went Quarterback. TONY i think The brown quarterback carousel.
CONTINUES i gave Them Dante more From oregon the quarterback
if he comes out. Again we don't know If simpson
And more gonna come out this, year but, look The
browns need.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Somebody at the.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Position they've stockpiled picks as, well so we'll see what
they end up doing with. This look at The more
doesn't work, out then you pull the trigger again the following.
Year you just got to keep picking quarterbacks until you
find the right.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
One you're picking fifth here.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Again if you're sitting there and there's another you, know
quote unquote, General i'm.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Not gonna use the term.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Generational if you, look you see like a really true
blue chip prospect that's sitting there in another. Position, SURE
i wouldn't Pick Dante. More here here's the. PROBLEM i
don't think, GUY i don't think the guy's. This SO
i think at this, point giving you other, OPTIONS i
think it's worth rolling The dice in the, Quarterback SO
i Went Dante moore.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Here interesting to see what they do in the, offseason
to show watching still on the still on that, roster
see what they do at the collecting. POSITION i, mean
wouldn't be ironic if they somehow built Bring bill O'Brien
into the front, office who had incredible success with watching a.
Quarterback and we'll see what the rest of the year
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looks like For Shore sanders And Dylan gabriel as. Well
maybe that might change their minds too, well to see
how that, goes all, Right commanders at Seven, TONY.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I thought About Jeremiah love.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Here i'm not gonna, lie BUT i think they liked
To Corey krosky merit enough that they weren't going to
pull the trigger. There The commander's defense is no. Good
it's very, bad especially in the back. Half Caleb downs
is still sitting. There for, ME i had to give
Him Caleb downs. HERE i really wanted to get him
to The bengals at eight because The bengals just need
a defensive player so. BADLY i really wanted to Get
Caleb downs to The, bengals especially with out their safeties
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have played this. YEAR i couldn't get him past the commanders,
Here So caleb downs to the. Commanders he's a guy
that can really transform how you work your. Defense think
of where Dan quinn came from with The legion Of
boom With Earl thomas Cam. Chancellor he can use him
in that type of way as a weapon on that
defense to just make that commander defense a lot better
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than it. Is SO i Did Caleb downs to the commander's,
here and this, again it just a matter of how
high he. WENT i kept moving him to different teams
because he's such a good. Player But Caleb downs number
seven to the commanders for, me how about?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
You, yeah, Well downs is off the, board So i'm giving.
Him Jeremiah. Love, yeah they like a Crosskey, merritt BUT
i don't know that he's in every down back feature.
BACK i think With Jeremiah, love you add another piece
For Jaden daniels and go back to WHAT i said
about the, giants and then multiply it by two with the.
COMMANDERS i, mean if you try and stack the, box
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you're gonna get beat By Jaden. Daniels if you lay,
that you, know to protect Against, daniels Then Jeremiah love
is going is gonna beat, you and they've got a
decent offensive. LINE i think this could be the final
piece for their. OFFENSE i understand what you're saying about their,
defense but they also have a defensive minded coordinator WHO
i think is able, to you, know make a mountain
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out of a mole, hill and he'll get the most
out of the players on that side of the.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Ball ball spin it, Out, tony that side of the.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
BALL i just think With Jeremiah, love you help the
offense and you make Sure Jayden daniels that much more.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Effective.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
YEAH i really thought About love, Here. TONY i just
couldn't quite get. There all, right let's go to you,
First bengals at.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Eight bengals need help a lot of, areas especially on.
Defense Peter woods is sitting. THERE i Gave Peter woods
consideration with The jets, pick BUT i had Got Caleb
downs rated much. Higher you, know they need a lot
of help on the interior of that defensive. Line they
Took stewart From TEXAS a AND m with the first
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pick as their edge rusher of the. Future Trey, hendrickson
the other edge, rusher is probably on his way. Out
we had That Peter woods plays on the, inside which
is where they need a lot of. HELP i, Mean
woods is a guy that's got great. Upside production hasn't
been there this, year but as we've talked about on
the show numerous, times it's been a terrible season At.
CLEMSON i like his, UPSIDE i like his. Ability he's
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just got to take the game to the next level.
AGAIN i think it's a good, player one of the
best players on the, board that fits in need In.
Cincinnati SO i have The bengals Taking Peter.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
WOODS i thought About Peter woods, here BUT i think
That Trey hendricks And saga is gonna have to resolve
itself in one, way shape or for him this. Offseason
i'd be surprised if he's on The bengals again next,
year just considering how ugly it was last, offseason and
now there's even less time left on his contract they
can franchise.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Him SO i just don't think he's going to be.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
There and my next favorite defensive, player and this is
me predicting that this player is going to absolutely blow
up the combine and become the kind of soup d
jore and player du jour for all the draft people out.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
THERE i gave him.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Day David belly the pass rusher out Of Texas. Tech
The bengals need are going to need a pass rusher
If Trey henderson is not. THERE i know he's a little,
undersized but he's got a lot of juice so and
the production is gonna be, That, tony he might finish,
with you, know, twelve, thirteen fourteen to fifteen sacks this.
Year So i'm going With David, bailey edge rusher out
of the bed out Of Texas. TECH i know he's
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not this highly rated by most, people BUT i think
once we get to the, DRAFT i think he will be.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
No concern that they go edge rusher back to back.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Years him And belly And Schamar stewart are very different
types of edge. Rusher stewart's a lot, bigger SO i
think they can compliment each other on either side of the.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Line right.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Up, Now, Yeah i'm up now number nine for The,
cardinals a guy that you already selected The. Cardinals you, Know,
TONY i really wanted to give a wide receiver, again
BUT i didn't Think, AGAIN i can't get On Jordan
tyson as the top ten, pick AND i don't Think
cardinal take Compliments Marvin Harrison. Junior, WELL i think they're
very similar the size and stuff like, that SO i
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didn't want to go.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
THERE i thought about a defensive.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
TACKLE i thought About Peter woods, here BUT i just
had to Go spencer for the offensive. Tackle they need
help on the right. Side they Have Paris campbell left.
Tackle the right tackle is a bit of a. MESS
i Think Kelvin beacham's are started there right, now so
he's a.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Veteran he got to move on from him.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Eventually SO i Win Spencer fino here for The, cardinals
who need to get that offensive line a little bit
better for whatever their quarterback situation looks like next.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Year, YEAH i completely agree with. You And finel's off my.
BOARD i had The browns taking him at, Sixth SO
i have The cardinals Taken Francis mowega the offensive right
tackle For Miami Maui.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
NOAH i Think tony is aus Pronounced Maui.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
NOAH marioa, okay, RIGHT i should know that is real
the places for The. Jets but, ANYWAY i, mean he's an.
ATHLETE a lot of people project him the, guard BUT
i think he's an athletic right tackle and the.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Lane johnson sort of.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Mold he's fluid on the second, level he moves, well he's,
Strong he's got a lot of, Upside and like you,
SAY i mean they Started Paris johnson the first round
pick at the right a couple of years. Ago they
moved them to the left. Side they need a lot
of help on the right. Side kelvin beach, HIM i,
mean he's an undersized the left. Tackle it's trying to
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play on the strong. SIDE i think my ago really
helps that situation a.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Lot let's go to The DOLPHINS a. Ten, tony you're.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Up this is really my only.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
REACH i would have liked to put an offensive tackle,
there but both offensive tackles are off the. Board they
need help on the defensive. Line you, know this is
the one.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Pick THAT i.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Kind of went off my board, on kind of reached,
on AND i gave them one. Sword De, layne the
cornerback OF. LSU i Like delaye a, lot BUT i
like him more in the middle part of the first
round rather than the top. Ten he's a, big physical
corner that can play backed off the. Line he can
play in man. Coverage he's having a terrific. Season kind
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of reminiscent or fulfilling the promise that he showed two
years ago For Virginia. Tech we'll see how he runs
at the. Combine you, know he may not be forty,
fast but he is football fast and he's got excellent ball.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
SKILLS i Went Francis maunoa. Here he was still on
the line the. Board for, Me, tony The dolphins offensive
line has been a problem for. Years whether he's a
tackle or a, guard it shouldn't matter For. Miami they
need an offensive. TACKLE i went, there thought about a
wide receiver. Here With Tyreek kills, injury they want to
put someone across from Jaywen waddle decided Maw wenoa was
the better. Pick AND i guess my one disappointment Quick
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tony THAT i couldn't get into the top ten Was Jeremiah.
LOVE i just couldn't find a landing spot for. Him
LIKE i, said the car the commanders ended up going.
Downs in my, version at some POINT i had The
raiders taking downs and then only two quarterbacks going in
the top, ten and THEN i Had love going to the,
commanders AND i kind of went off of. That so
that was the only THING i couldn't FIND i Think
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love will be a top ten pick in this. DRAFT
i just couldn't get him onto a team here in my,
version any regrets when you look at, YOURS i.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Mean, no because it basically matched up with my TO
myo except for the tenth pick of the, draft AND
i feel that that pick The dolphins with a critical
need at.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Cornerback, now you, know that's what.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Happens when you force the quarterbacks into the top. Ten
you get good players who start falling out of the top,
ten and those teams that end up selecting, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen you, know are in the driver's seat because they
can either get The Jeremiah love or they can make
a big trade for a team that wants to move
up to get A Jeremiah. Love and you, KNOW i
understand your scenario because as we've seen in the past
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twenty five, years quarterbacks are always, overdrafted and it's probably
gonna happen in twenty twenty. SIX i just can't put
guy players that haven't even played a full season on
the college level in my top.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Ten i'm, SORRY i totally get, It.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Tony all, right let's roll through these questions remind their
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Submitted Rob, staton what has Made? Tony what have you
made Of kaden, McDonald defensive Tackle Ohio state his performances
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and you're hearing anything about the likely of from returning
pro after the.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Year you always have to.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Figure that it's more than fifty to fifty that a
top Rated Ohio state buck guy underclassman's going to enter the.
Draft that's been the, history especially a guy that's already
won a national championship and is on the number one
team in the nation right. Now now when we talk
About Ohio, state everybody talks about wide receivers coming out
Of Ohio, state whether it Be Marvin, Harrison Garrett, Wilson Chris,
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Olave Jeremiah, smith And Mecha. Abuka but if you look
at the program's, history they've also had some sensational a
defensive lineman on a consistent. Basis you, know you go
back To Dan, wilkinson a guy by the name Of Vernon.
Golston some of those guys didn't pan out the bows
of brothers and with, McDonald remember there were two guys
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on the interior That Ohio state defensive, Line Tyleek williams
who was drafted in the first round by The lions
And Ty hamilton who was drafted in the fifth round
by The, rams which meant that McDonald wasn't getting playing.
Time But Ohio state has always had strong defensive linemen
that playing in THE. Nfl so AM i surprised by
his pure? Dominance, yes based off of the fact that
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he really didn't play too much in twenty twenty, four
but they didn't need him to. Play he's been a terrific.
PLAYER i, MEAN i think he's playing probably at a
higher level than High Leak, williams which if he you,
know which is something that will have to enter into
the equation as far as him entering the.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Draft absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Alight question number, two aiden, Think, tony what are your
thoughts on Training dad in this year's, Draft so a
team in need of a quarterback can move up and
do you think specifically The giants would consider going that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Route i'll answer that question. First, yes.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Absolutely if jackson are continues to play well and they
decide they don't need a quarterback and they're picking that.
High and Again i'm not sure they will be picking that,
high but if they, ARE i think this is At
tony where every day that ends at a.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Y you're gonna try to trade down in this year's.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Draft, yeah and.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
You, know like we said at the, top you, know
unless there is a generational type talent or that impact
type of player at the top of the, draft you're
gonna be working in the. PHONES i, mean last year
you had the quarterback at the top with Cam. Ward
then you had two outstanding players And Abdill carter And Travis.
Hunter you had some good players after, That Mason, Graham, Armond.
Membo you, know so there really Wasn't you were gonna
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have to pay a premium to get up and get
one of those. Selections the cost this year may not
be as, much but who is a team going to
trade up. For you have to factor that in and
what would they be willing to give away to move
up and get a, Player.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
No question about all?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Right statement number, three and, again a team has to
be wanting to move up to get that.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Guy having the partners really the.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Trick justin wants to know what, year in your, Opinion,
tony the WORST nfl draft class of this century both
in lack of Blue chips in depth and well the
twenty twenty six class blow that one at the water
with its.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Ineptitude, WELL i mean that remains to be. Seen AND
i didn't go back the entire. CENTURY i went back
to twenty thirteen and you look at the two thousand thirteen.
Draft first pick Was Eric, fisher second pick With Luke
joker that was pick to third pick Was Deon Jordan Lane.
Johnson the fourth pick really, good but you go on and,
on it was bust after. Bust you Had Sheldon, richardson
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who was a solid player. There and coming out of that,
draft you Know Eric, reid who's had a long. CAREER
i don't know that it's been it's been a distinguished.
Career BUT i mean the two thoy thirteen draft compared
to what people thought it was going to be like on,
PAPER i, mean it was a complete gut.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
AND i think people knew that at the top of
that draft that those picks weren't your normal Blue chippers
at the. Time but, yeah it certainly did not did
not Hit John, latini thinking The giants and a good
linebacker in the middle Rounds, tony any sleepers That giant
fans can try to look for in terms of an
inside off ball linebacker in the middle rounds of the.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Draft you, KNOW i Like David, widgate who's going to
be an Early day three pick if he enters the.
Draft he's a junior out Of. Maryland ALTHOUGH i hear The.
Terps the Terra pins are working hard to keep, them
which may be easier now since they've already announced that
their their coach is coming. Back jayshawn borrow them out Of,
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michigan sort of like a Miniature Avrol, reese an off
ball linebacker who can also rush the. Passer Lander barton
Of utah has kind of fallen off a. Bit two years.
Ago he was great as A day two. Pick he's
now A day three. Selection but he's shown that ability
in the past to play in. SPACE a guy that
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we've mentioned here a couple. Times we talked about him
at length When Mike grenner was On caleb Ellhams or FROM,
TCU a smaller guy h six' one two and, thirty
pounds but a great pursuit sideline to sideline linebacker that
can cover. The pass he can get to the sidelines
and shut the corners off from the. Running backs as we,
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talked about this is gonna be a terrific year for off.
Ball linebackers so If the giants don't get a crack
At An rville reese early in, the draft or they
even pass, on them there'll be guys there in THE
second I know i have a, third round the second
round And early day THREE that i believe can play
early in their.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Rookie Seasons, so tony Then then i'll just follow up
with the second Part Of frank baffone's question. From before
you think this is PROBABLY and i think it is
one of the best off ball linebacker classes we've seen
in a.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
LONG time i love.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
The off ball.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
LINEBACKER class i think the problem linebacker linebackers these days
is everybody automatically judges them on.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Can they rush?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
The passer are the air rushers and. It's not we've
seen this and the results of. The draft, you know
those that four to three week side linebacker has, been devalued,
you know because a lot of times they stick them
on the inside of.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
A, three four and they let them run to.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
The ball but with these guys not only a great pursuing,
to run but they can.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Also cover, all.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Right let's go to our final.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Two questions these ones come, from Upstairs Big ohio State Fan,
dan salomon one of, Our. Riders tony have you ever
seen a college have three top ten potential, draft picks
but while they're two best players on, their rosters still
are not. Draft ELIGIBLE and i think he's Referring To
julian Saying And jeremiah smith with those, two players by, the,
way yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Other things He's Think sonny styles is going to be
a top. Ten pick i'm not of that. Same MIND
and I, LIKE styles i just don't think he's a top.
Ten pick and we Are Our ohio state family because
my daughter Graduated From ohio State, in may so and
she'll be down the City this Saturday At Ohio state
bar watching.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
The game.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
You?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Know what and what was the two.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Thousand and five two thousand And six auburn actually had,
three picks three players.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Looked like in the.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Top Nine ronnie brown with the second pick of the
draft Of, The Dolphins cadillac williams with the fifth pick
of the draft To the Buccaneers And carlos rogers with
the ninth pick of the draft to The Then, Washington
redskins so that has. Happened before but then the next
year their, First player ankor was the. Second rounder, so
no there's not been the depth. OF talent i think in.
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Some cases obviously the transfer portal and nil has. Helped
This But ohio state always regularly has guys not only
in the top not in the, first round but in the.
Top fifteen and when you win the, national championships it's
easier to track those types of players.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Are there We Got, matthew sittak who Was a. VANDERBILT
alumni i want to know just how high of a
Ceiling Does eli. Stowers have he doesn't have the, biggest
frame but he does the modern big slot.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Tight end who IN the nfl does he remind You Of, tony.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Okay you're gonna have to help me out with the.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Name here he's as far as, his ability the kid
that played For The New Orleans sate saints all those.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Years Ago, jimmy graham there, you go.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
THAT'S exactly, i mean a guy who can, get downfield
make the. Big reception he's tough to cover because even
though he doesn't have the, biggest frame he's still going
to outsize the, defensive backs the safeties in. The secondary
he's still fast enough to. Outrun linebackers he is your
traditional move. TIGHT end i think what happens is In
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that vanderbilt offense With The diego pava and, everything else
he kind of gets lost. In it if he was
on an offense that, you know wasn't so dynamic and wasn't,
so diverse his production may be even better than what it.
Is now and it's pretty good now with fifty seven
receptions seven hundred and. Five, Catches Listen eli stowers has
been a good player since he was a Sophomore At New.
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Mexico state and the fact Is is vanderbilt made the
right choice by giving him a large nil deal to,
come back and we're seeing the fruition not only in,
his production But the vanderbilt offense And the. VANDERBILT record
i think stours maybe a day A late day, two
pick depending on how he, works out no later in the.
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Fourth round but in the, right system he's going to
be a REAL good nfl.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Tight end, All, right tony let's. Wrap here we got
three quick matchups. This weekend you want to, Touch on
we'll be Talking the arizona secondary to open. The show
They Get jordan Tyson In arizona state.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
This week that should.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Be fun that's Gonna Be and tyson had a return.
LAST week i think he had two receptions for sixty yards.
Or something so he's on. The men that's gonna be, a,
big big big, big challenge, a big big Opportunity For,
genesis smith the Safety from Arizona And. Treadon dukes see
how that works out, for him.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
All right Other Matchup rubin Bain against pittsburgh Offensive Tackle
ryan bear six seven three. TWENTY five i think we've
talked about him briefly on a, previous show but this
is a big test. For him and by, THE way
i want To See rube mainstore getting a little bit More.
Production tony he only has three sacks, and look he's
been great. This year rubin's gonna be a, good Player
but i'd like to see the production start to kick
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up a little.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Bit, here rubin let's go.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Come on coming into, this season a lot, of people,
including myself Thought that bear could be a first. Round
pick he's been up. And down he is a bigger athletic.
Right tackle the thing to watch here is when they're
pitted up at once against. Each Other once bear gets
his hands On ruby bain is being able to get.
Off blocks is he able to defeat the blocks or
is a situation Where When, ryan behar the right Tackle,
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in pittsburgh gets his Hands on ban. Game over it'll
be interesting. To watch remember this is a big Game
because Pittsburgh Beat georgia tech. Last week miami's in a
driver's so this is a big game for. Both teams
as far as who's gonna play IN the acc.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Title, Game yeah miami right on the fringe of the college,
football playoffs so they need to win every single game
the rest of. The, way remember there are some questions
about What rubyen bain's arm length is going to be
when that gets measured at, the combine how he handles
a long offensive Tackle, LIKE bear i think we'll Be,
telling finally another edge rusher offensive.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Tackle matchup this one of the.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Big Ten Tony Northwestern, caleb tiernan who we've talked about
a lot this year Against gab jakis Out. Of illinois
disappointing Year, for illinois but he's been very productive, nine
sacks three.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Fource, fumbles yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
He's explosive Tiern in it plays Left. TACKLE northwestern i
think he's gonna be a right tackle at the, next
level maybe.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Even guard he doesn't show that.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Great lateralge jockas, is quick, he's mobile he can rush,
the edge he quickly gets up. The fields is this
is the type of Matchup that jockis can exploit.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
If you watch.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
The film or on the, other hand This is kiernan
has an opportunity to prove doubters like myself that he
deserves to play left Tackle.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
On sunday, all right And, then tony that's all, we,
Got man it. Was fun have A. Happy thanksgiving my
friend will be back. Next week still working on what
our topic is going, to be trying to get a couple.
Of guests we'll see how. That goes but we're gonna
have a lot of games to review and look.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Forward to we got.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Rivalry weekend we'd even Touch On Michigan, ohio state which
is another game coming up this weekend that should, be
exciting and then we have the conference championship games to look.
Forward to so a lot next week on. Draft season
tony Enjoy. Your thanksgiving, my Friend, thanks.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
John she say to you and, YOUR family a lot
of our.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Viewers, of course absolutely everybody. Out There.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
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Have happy thanksgiving
It's now officially open.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is Draft Season, brought to you by Moody's, a
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Tony. Happy Thanksgiving, my friend. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm okay, John. Happy Thanksgiving to you and all of
our viewers. It's a great time of year. Thanksgiving a
great holiday, four day weekend, it's nice, a lot of football,
a lot to eat, Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, It's gonna
be fun.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I got into a debate with Mark Melussis, who I
do the Saturday Morning Big Boo kick of Live show with,
and I said I think Thanksgiving is the best holiday.
And he was aghast that I thought it was a
better holiday than Christmas. And my argument was that, A
it's a very American holiday for one. Number two, you
also have, you know, the whole like being thankful what
you have thing. I think it's kind of like a
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really good message to be totally honest with you, especially
in this day and age. So I vote I love Christmas.
By the way, I have nothing against Chris this. I
vote Thanksgiving over Christmas. I gotta be honest with you, Tony.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
No, I go with Meluss. I mean, I love Thanksgiving.
Thank you. Thanksgiving's like the kickoffs, and Christmas in more
ways than one, is like balls season. I mean, since
I was a kid, I'm beag Christmas gutt But I
enjoyed the whole time, from literally the days before Thanksgiving
through Christmas and New Year's I just enjoy it all.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And by the way, I drive people nuts because the
day after Thanksgiving, I already have all my favorites set
up on my serious and on my web streams. I
basically have Christmas use of going in my office for
like most of the next month. So I drive the
people around me nuts. But yes, I am all about it.
I'm happy to kick off the season.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
All right, we better take it. We better take DNA test. John.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We may be we may be brothers from a different
mother or.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Something like that. You can't beat a baby. All right,
here we.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Go, busy show today, folks, We're gonna do a little
bit of a recap of the week in college football.
We'll look ahead as always at dead of the show,
and Antoni, I gotta kind of do a top ten
mock draft here of what we think this top ten
might look like, which, by the way, Tony, I had
some trouble with I was going through this for like
two hours trying to match players with teams because we
weren't doing any trades here. But we'll see what both
(02:12):
of us came up with. He did it separately, and
we'll compare it our contrast. What our groups look like.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Should be fun, It.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Should be all right, Tony, you were pumped up about
the Arizona Baylor game over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
What'd you think once you watched it?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And it was a good game for three quarters And
there's actually one of those games where every player that
I mentioned I was looking forward to seeing play played well.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I mean, first of all, you start with Arizona who
won the game.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Genesis Smith, their safety, who I'm heard very likely is
a good chance he's going to enter the draft, had
a force fumble, had a fumble recovery. He's athletic, he
sells out, he's instinctive, he does a great job reading
and diagnosing plays. And I was texting a scout friend
during the game and they sent to me to said,
this kid's for real, and you got to keep an
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eye on him, because you know, Arizona's had a pretty
good year this season. No one really talks about Genesis
Smith and what looks like it's going to be a
very as usual average safety class except for the guy
at the top. Traydon Stokes is another cornerback you're talking
mid day three. Decent size, physical, really better facing the action.
But another defensive back from the Arizona Wildcats who reached
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the plays very well. Has a nice break to the ball.
He made a really important interception in the third quarter
as Baylor was going in to bring the score closer
that kind of blew the game open for Arizona. So
another guy to keep an eye on Sawyer Robertson, the
quarterback from Baylor. Day three guy. He's patient, he's deliberate,
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he's disciplined. Made one bad pass, but he's accurate. He
doesn't wow you, he's just very efficient. A Day three
guy that could be a number two QB. John Cameron
if you're looking for a bigger possession wide out six
two nineteen pounds, played well, tracks the ball in the air,
caught everything that was thrown to him. And Michael Trigg
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is gonna be one of the more interesting players as
we get closer to the draft. Sort of a tight
end h BAC type guy. He's big, he's an athletic,
he moves around the field well. He does have drops.
He's had drops in the pass. He caught everything on Saturday.
Gets a little melvy at times. He's seeing very chatty.
You rather have him focused on the football game. But
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he is a playmaker at that tight end position. He's
got these inside six three and a half two hundred
and fifty two pounds plays in the four sixes. He's
a guy that's gonna get a lot of There's gonna
be a lot of opinion on Michael Trigg. When he's good,
he's very good, but he'll break your heart at times
with some you know, out of the ordinary drops passes
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that go slipping through his hands.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And Antonio also has some background too.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
This is a third school, he left his previous school
and you know circumstances that lets some people some questions
about so so now we keep an eye on with
him as you go through the draft process. Ohio State's
been dealing with some injuries and wide receiver Cardinal Tates
been heard. Jeremiah Smith is playing through something they're very
vague with injuries when on't know zactly what's going on there.
But he gave their tight end, Max Claire tense to
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show out.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Last week he was terrific against Rutgers. Seven receptions, one
hundred and five yards, one TD. You know, it's funny
because we talked about Max Claire and we said on
the show, you know, with Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate,
you're only going to get so many opportunities. And on
the broadcast they were talking about him being a nice
safety valve. In that Ohio State passing game, he was
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the main guy because he had to be. And you
understand why scouts had him graded as a Day two
pick coming into the season because he moves incredibly well.
He's fluid in every direction on the field. He catches
the ball like a wide receiver. Blocke is not his forte.
He's more of a second level type of blocker that
needs a running start. But you see that, you see
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the abilities there and the football skills are there, and
you know, transfers to a house name from Purdue understandable
because Purdue has been a losing program.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
He's only going to get the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
See the ball so many times he made he really
cashed in on the opportunity Saturday. Let's see what happens
this past Saturdaygainst Rutgers. Let's see what happens is coming
Saturday against Michigan, depending on the health of those two receivers.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
No question about it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And then Tony, you like the matchup between Quincy Roads junior,
the edge rusher for Arkansas going against Trevor Guoseby, Texas
offensive tackle.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, I mean Gooseby got the best of Rhads when
they went head to head, and you can see the
upside in both players. But both guys really, in my opinion,
need to go back to school. And I was texting
with somebody familiar with the Texas program. They say, Gooseby
the left tackle for the Texas Lawnghorns. It's fifty to
fifty as to whether or not he's going to come out.
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He's athletic, but he does a lot of bending at
the waste. He over extends in the blocks, which will
get him killed on the next level. Rhodes is very athletic.
He shows good movement skills. He can rush the passer,
but he's got to get stronger and he's got to
develop more moves to get off blocks, because once he
gets locked up in the block, it's game over. I
like the upside of both of those guys. I like
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them as prospects, but they need a lot of work
on their game.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
All right, Tony, let's get to our mock draft here.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
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All right, so we'll need a little mock draft here.
Then we have them questions as well from the fans
out there. They have some good draft questions. We'll get
(07:40):
to that. So Tony first overall here, and I'm going
to say this with the first two picks, this is
our draft order that me and Tony are working off of.
It's Titans, Giant, Saints, Jets, Raiders, Browns, Commanders, Bengals, Cardinals, Dolphins.
Those are our top ten here. This order is going
to change. So this is more figuring out what players,
the strength of the class, who's there, what team needs
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are very early in the process.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Obviously, with free agencies still on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We don't know what the coaches are gonna be for
some of these teams, we don't know what the needs
are gonna be exactly. But just to give you an
idea of what the conversation might be with these teams,
and I'll start here right now, the Titans and the
Giants are the first two picks. The reason the Giants
have the second overall pick is because they have not
had their buy yet. That's gonna happen next week once
they have their buy, and I think they'll probably win
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a couple of their last four games. The way they're playing,
I think they're gonna drop in the order. But as
it is now, Titans and Giants are the first two teams.
And both these teams and we're not doing trades here
will be on the phone looking the trade back for
a team looking for a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You know you would think so.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I mean, I remember when when the Bears had the
first pick of the draft and people were talking about
a team moving up to get Brys Young. I said,
I didn't think anybody who was gonna move up to
get to trade up and get Brys young Lo and behold,
here come the Carolina Panthers. They give away a ton
of picks. Hasn't worked out for them today. You would
expect both any team that's at the top looking to
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trade down. I know that's one of the questions we
have later on, which we'll get to it. It's just conscience.
Unless there is a Peyton Manning or Trevor Lawrence, although
he hasn't panned out. It as a way we thought,
unless there is that generational type of talent at the
top of the draft, you're always gonna that lock. Got
the player you proceed to be a lock, you're always
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gonna look to trade down. And there's no player like
that in this year's draft. And just before we start,
I didn't force quarterbacks into my top ten.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I say, well, this team.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Needs a quarterbacks, I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Gonna put my twentieth rank player there.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I tried to stay true to my board rather than
go with team needs.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And we'll talk about that as we go on.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I was more predictive, so we'll see how this goes in.
This will be interesting. All right, Let's start with the
Tennessee Titans. Here Tony and look, I think they would
love with this pick to try to build around cam
Ward on the offensive side out of the ball with
an offensive lineman or with a wide receiver. Here's the problem,
nobody's good enough to be selected first overall at those positions.
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The good news and also the bad news for the
Titans is that their defense is also not very good,
so they need players all over the place. So I
want the guy who I think is the best player
in this draft, and I gave them Marvel Reese. The linebackers,
last edge player out of Ohio State. You can play
them on the edge, you can play them a linebacker.
The Titans need help with both spots. So I went
Rvl Reese number one overall to the Titans.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I agree with you completely. I'd love to get a
big left tackle there. There's no one there, and there's
no left tackles there. Really in the first round. The receivers,
there's gonna be gonna be a lot of opinion about
the receivers. None of these guys pan out great. Out
of his top ten picks. For me, I stayed defense,
but I went with Ruben Bain. The reason I want
with Ruben Bain is, amongst other positions, The Titans have
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been in need of an edge rusher of somebody who
can get to the passer for the longest time.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Now I know they play at three to four.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
They drafted Iemi from Uclao, though he's on injured reserve
now in the second round. Like you said, a lot
depends on who the coaches and the defensive scheme that
they employed. I have my concerns about Ruby. Bain kind
of wears down. He's got to be quicker getting off blocks.
The production isn't there, but he's getting better on the
football field. He's got growth potential and he fits the
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need and he's one of the best players in this
year's draft.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
All right, Tony, let's go to number two. I'll let
you lead off here with the New York Football Giants.
Who do you have them selecting in your mock?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, you know again, I'd love to put a game
changing receiver here, but there's none on the board. I'd
love to have a big time cornerback here, but there's
no cornerback is really worth a top eight pick. I
wouldn't even mind having a big right tackle. All the
Giants offensive line is played well. Still, you know you
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can improve the offensive line, maybe you pushed the tackle
into guard. Came down the two players. For me, one
of them was Maiah Love because I thought, you know what,
you want to make Jackson Dart better, and Jackson Dart
has shown some incredible ability. You get a playmaker like
Jeremiah Love. If teams put seven to eight guys in
the box, they'll get beat by Jackson Dart. If they
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play a regular defense, Jeremiah Love will beat him. But
when you look at the Giants, the problem with the
Giants has been defense, especially stopping you run. So I
had them taking rvel Reese, who you have the Titans
taking with the first selection, because I think r vel
Rees indirectly will help Dexter Lawrence will help the run defense.
He's a three down linebacker. You can put him on
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the field and third and short to stop the run,
keep him on the field and third and five to
rush the passer, cover the pass, and he's just hitting
his stride. He's just gonna get better and better and better.
I have the Giants taking rvel Reese, and.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I assume what the Giants say, and you have him
as an off ball linebacker right because with Abdul Carter,
Brian Burns and Keevon Thibodeau. And this is gonna you know,
I'm I might as we'll go with the question here.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Frank Pafone.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
One part of his question later on is do you
see him as an edge or a linebacker prospect? And clearly,
if you're going to the Giants here, you see him
as an off ball linebacker.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I see him as an off ball linebacker who will be
effective on the blitz when you ask him the blitz.
I hate when they take these guys and they kind
of pigeonhole them or they corner him two. Well, he's
an EDG dresher, you know, is you're an off ball
linebacker or vel reason, in my opinion, can do it,
can do it all. I think he's better as an
off ball linebacker. But I think he's also a guy
that you can use in certain situations, maybe his own
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blitz and drop off gul carter back off the line
or k bon Fibodeau, and he's gonna do that job,
that sort of a job for you regardless. I absolutely think,
you know, third and five, he can cover space, he
can cover the tight end, he can cover the running
back out of the backfield.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
All right, Tony. This was tough because, like.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You said, I'm trying to get the Giants a wide
receiver here with their first round pick, and I think
eventually the Giants will be picking lower than this, and
I think they will have a chance to get one.
The wide receiver I'm looking to get because I think
he complements the league neighbor as well as Carnell Tape
as a taller guy that can get vertical, and he's six',
three he's a good rout Runner Ohio states. PEDIGREE i
think it's a safe. Pick that's the wide RECEIVER i
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would try to get for The. GIANTS i haven't finished
all my work on the wide receivers, yet but that's
WHERE i stand right. Now BUT i can't pick him second.
Overall he's just not good enough to be picked second.
Overall so for, me Arvrel reese is. Gone SO i
thought About Ruben, bain who you went first overall To.
Tennessee but The giants have three edge rushers, already AND
i don't Think bain is quite big enough to be
a full time defensive. Tackle So i'm, like all, right
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where DO i go? Now to your, POINT i couldn't
find a. Cornerback as much As Ben Short delane has
played great this, YEAR i can't pick this guy second.
OVERALL i just can't do. It So i'm going with
the guy who's a big upside. Pick and even though
he's listed as an, EDGE i think as he ages
gets older and, bigger he's gonna be a three technique
defensive tackle in The National Football. League i'm Going Keldric
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falk here out Of. Auburn he's already a good run.
Stopper he is to work on his pass. Rush you
Have Dexter lawrence as your nose. Tackle The giants run
defense has been awful again this. Year you get him
in there at the three. Technique you put him next
To decks and those two dens to g ed rushers
With Abdul, Carter Brian, Burns Caveon, thibodau however's on the,
field AND i think you got a really good defensive front. There,
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again maybe not the biggest position to, need but The
giants certainly have needed help on that defensive front to
stop the, run AND i Think Keldrick falk will do. That,
remember just twenty years, old he's six, six two eighty.
Five he can grow into that. Role So i'm Going Keldrick,
falk did you Give Jeremiah love any consideration at this?
PICK i can't do. It Camp scataboo was so. GOOD
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i know he's, hurt but when he, played he was so.
Good The giants have run the ball well With, Tyrone
tracy and Frankly. Tony i'm not, reliving relitigating A Saquon
barkley top five running back pick to The. Giants i've
lived that. LIFE i don't want to live that life.
Again so, NO i.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Didn't so your confident That scataboo will come back one
hundred percent because that was an the next, season that
was an ugly.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Injury. Yeah, Yeah, LOOK i don't. Know i'm not a.
DOCTOR i have no. IDEA i hope that he.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
DOES i can't justify where The giants are selecting a
running back in the top.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
FIVE i just can't do.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It all, right, Right i'll go pick number three to
The saints And Ruben bain's left on the, Board, tony
how COULD i not pick? HIM i Think Tyler shuk's
been pretty good for. THEM i thought about a quarterback,
here but The saints have not forced that, position and
this is not an overwhelming, Class SO i went With
Rubin bain. Here you, Know benson likes picking guys up
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front on the defensive.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Line their pass rush is not what it used to.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Be they need a pass. Rusher Ruben bain still. There
this was one of the easier ones for. Me If
ban was still on the, BOARD i gave him to
The saints offensive.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Line defensive line and defensive ends and offensive. TACKLES i,
mean that's them for The, saints right you said. Something
Tyler shunk has been pretty good for, them and we'll
have to see How Kyler schunk finishes out the. Season
but with the third, PICK i gave Them Fernando, mendoza
thinking That mendoza is going to be an upgrade Over Tyler,
shuck who played, well was great last season At, louisville
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had an up and down senior.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Career With, mendoza he was good At.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Cal he's been in much better this year At. INDIANA
i love the upside, trajectory which is SOMETHING i put
a priority on at the quarterback. Position but, again If Tyler,
shuck who has not been, banned really finishes out the
season with the, fileurry then The saints don't have to
take a quarterback with that first.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Pick as of right, NOW i have them Taking.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Mendoza all, Right, tony you're first in with Your jets
and number.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Four you, know when The jets Traded Mod gardner And
Quinton williams right before the, DEADLINE i thought it was
kind of, ridiculous to tell you the. TRUTH i, mean
they gave away two cornerstone players on, defense two guys
that play critical positions in their, prime guys that were
locked up in their. Contract they weren't imminent the free,
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agents although they was talked That williams wanted a better.
Deal you know what player doesn't want a better deal
in THE. Nfl and they got back a lot of
draft picks and two underachieving, Players so they got back
a lot of Unknown everybody, said, well you know they
did this because they need the. Quarterback, well, yeah they
need a, quarterback but now they also need a cornerback
and a defensive tackle because he traded away two outstanding.
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Players i'm not going to force a quarterback. HERE i
can't Take Ty. Sampson you, know he started nine games in.
COLLEGE i JUST i can't do it BECAUSE i understand
that it's easier to miss on an early pick this
year with the hardcap, said with the rookie hardcat salary,
cap and with the fact that quarterbacks these days are
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traded and cut like never, before and you get a reclamation.
Project but you, still if you have a top ten,
picks you want to hit it on that. Pick you
want to get a good. Player The jets secondary is
an absolute. MESS i mean it was a mess before
they Traded Almond. Gardner really Since week, one the receivers
are open all over the. FIELD i don't know if
it's a schematic. THING i don't know what it. Is
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the head coach is a Former Pro bowl defense. Cornerback
with the fourth pick of the, Draft i'm Taking Caleb.
Downs The jet safety spot has been a sore spot
for a long. Time downs is he doesn't have the
great stats this, year but he's being asked to do
different things and he's doing them very. Well and we've
seen in the past the guy is a. Playmaker was
a playmaker At. Alabama he was fenamenal last year At Ohio.
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State he's doing a good job with At Ohio. State
he's asking him to do this. Year he's more than
just a downhill. Safety he's got great, Range he's got
terrific ball. SKILLS i look At Aaron glen the defensive.
BACK i look At Caleb. DOWNS i look at the
need of The jets, secondary And Caleb downs is head
and shoulders a better prospect than any quarterback that's available
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on the. Board maybe The jets get a quarterback with
their second first round, Pick maybe they move up and
get a. QUARTERBACK i can't Take Ty simpson or The
oregon quarterback Over Caleb downs.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Here i'm Taking Caleb downs for The. Jets.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, LOOK i think he's the best non quarterback, left
AND i could argue he should have been picked earlier
than this, already to be honest with he just based
on quality of. Player so no argument from, There. Tony
but for, me For Nando mendozo was still on the,
board SO i gave him to The. Jets, now The
jets might choose to be patient. Here clearly they're taking
a law long term building outlook with the way they've.
Traded to your, point those players their stack, pick not
just in this year's, draft but next year's draft as.
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Well do they like next year's quarterback class? Better that's
a risky. Proposition you never know what the quarterback class
is going to look like at this time of, year
so you have a chance to Get. MENDOZA i gave
The Jets mendoza at number four because, frankly they need
a quarterback and they just can't go through another year
like this with just nothing at that. Spot then you
got to The raiders at number, Five, tony and this
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is one of the ONES i went back and forth
on a few different, times and, again they need an offensive,
lineman they need a wide. Receiver couldn't find one THAT
i thought was good enough to give him to him
at number.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
FIVE i just couldn't do.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
IT i know a lot of people With Jordan tyson this, High,
tony the guy can't stay. HEALTHY i can't pull the
trigger on a fifth overall, pick as much AS i
like the player On tyson so offensive, line same. Deal
you Know Spencer, fano now We, NOAH i can't get
myself sold on one of those guys at fifth. Overall
and THEN i got, thinking, well who Is Mark davis
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is number one advisor that he likes to listen To Tom,
brady AND i think when you watch Ty simpson play,
quarterback that's a quarterback That Tom brady is going to,
SAY i think this guy can be a really GOOD nfl.
Player and While Gino smith is still, good he's, old
he's in his, thirties he only has a couple of years.
Left it was a short term deal that they extended him.
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To So i'm going to Go Tye simpson here to The,
raiders AND i think if they do this, trade they
can then Trade Gino smith to maybe a team that's
a little bit quarterback, desperate that doesn't get their quarterback and.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
They want to kind of take a quick.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Jump i'm looking at You Minnesota, vikings who maybe DECIDE
jj McCarthy's not your, guy and they use that pick
then on a wide receiver and offensive. Lineman SO i
Think Tom brady falls in love with Ty simpson who comes,
out and that's who The raiders select to pick number.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Five definitely at a.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
QUARTERBACK i agree with you one hundred on the needed offensive,
line but they also have needs a defensive. Line AND
i know in your mock Draft Keldrick falk right now
is Wearing giant, blue but he's available to The. Raiders
they need a guy that can rush the. Edge they
play a four man. Line they need help on that defensive.
Line it's been a. Disaster it hasn't been good and
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started With Christian wilkins earlier this. Offseason So i'm gonna
go With Keldrick. FALK i think it checks a lot of.
Boxes they need a guy who can rush the. Passer
he can do. That you mentioned his size and the
ability to add growth to his frame and become a
better run.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Defender that.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Helps and you, know The raiders in the past have
gotten one with, big mean defensive, linemen big, productive athletic defensive.
Lineman this is kind of a throwback. Pick he's the
top rated player on my. Board it. Fits.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
INDEED i think it's a good pick for The.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Raiders and the REASON i trouble with The Raiders tony
is because they do have needs everywhere, defense offensive, line, wide.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Receiver you can go any direction.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Here but, again Since falk was gone for, ME i
couldn't find that that. Guy and you, KNOW i thought
ABOUT i Had caleb downs in the slot a few different,
times BUT i eventually decided to slide.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Him down a little. Bit all, right you're up with
The browns. Sixth, Overall.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Browns have done a good job on defense And they've
done almost an equally terrible job on, offense specifically on
the offensive, line, quarterback and they need some.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Receivers they done a good job at running. Back.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Uh you, know a couple of years, ago we looked
at The browns offensive line and we thought that it
was going to be a.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Strength they had some good players up.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
There they did From alabama and they Drafted willis has
really never panned. Out Jack conklin's in and out of
the lineup with. Injury you, know you look at their
offensive line. Now Cam, robinson the left, tackle is gonna
be a free agent after this. Season The browns have
it out On Jack, conkland so they have a really
good defensey with the signings in the off, Season Carson,
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SWETZINGER i think is gonna be Defensive rookie of The,
year as he will. Deserves you got to focus on,
offense and people will say, quarterback, quarterback. Quarterback i'm gonna
go with the offensive. Line my first offensive tackle comes
off the. Board i'm gonna With Spencer, fanell WHO i
project as a right. TACKLE i know people like him a,
guard BUT i think he's gonna be a right tackle
in THE. Nfl you, know got to do something to
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help that offensive. Line it's gonna help whatever quarterback you
have playing back. There it's also gonna Help Quinn Shawn,
jenkins who's played well when he's on the.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
FIELD i went Quarterback. TONY i think The brown quarterback carousel.
CONTINUES i gave Them Dante more From oregon the quarterback
if he comes out. Again we don't know If simpson
And more gonna come out this, year but, look The
browns need.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Somebody at the.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Position they've stockpiled picks as, well so we'll see what
they end up doing with. This look at The more
doesn't work, out then you pull the trigger again the following.
Year you just got to keep picking quarterbacks until you
find the right.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
One you're picking fifth here.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Again if you're sitting there and there's another you, know
quote unquote, General i'm.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Not gonna use the term.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Generational if you, look you see like a really true
blue chip prospect that's sitting there in another. Position, SURE
i wouldn't Pick Dante. More here here's the. PROBLEM i
don't think, GUY i don't think the guy's. This SO
i think at this, point giving you other, OPTIONS i
think it's worth rolling The dice in the, Quarterback SO
i Went Dante moore.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Here interesting to see what they do in the, offseason
to show watching still on the still on that, roster
see what they do at the collecting. POSITION i, mean
wouldn't be ironic if they somehow built Bring bill O'Brien
into the front, office who had incredible success with watching a.
Quarterback and we'll see what the rest of the year
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looks like For Shore sanders And Dylan gabriel as. Well
maybe that might change their minds too, well to see
how that, goes all, Right commanders at Seven, TONY.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I thought About Jeremiah love.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Here i'm not gonna, lie BUT i think they liked
To Corey krosky merit enough that they weren't going to
pull the trigger. There The commander's defense is no. Good
it's very, bad especially in the back. Half Caleb downs
is still sitting. There for, ME i had to give
Him Caleb downs. HERE i really wanted to get him
to The bengals at eight because The bengals just need
a defensive player so. BADLY i really wanted to Get
Caleb downs to The, bengals especially with out their safeties
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have played this. YEAR i couldn't get him past the commanders,
Here So caleb downs to the. Commanders he's a guy
that can really transform how you work your. Defense think
of where Dan quinn came from with The legion Of
boom With Earl thomas Cam. Chancellor he can use him
in that type of way as a weapon on that
defense to just make that commander defense a lot better
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than it. Is SO i Did Caleb downs to the commander's,
here and this, again it just a matter of how
high he. WENT i kept moving him to different teams
because he's such a good. Player But Caleb downs number
seven to the commanders for, me how about?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
You, yeah, Well downs is off the, board So i'm giving.
Him Jeremiah. Love, yeah they like a Crosskey, merritt BUT
i don't know that he's in every down back feature.
BACK i think With Jeremiah, love you add another piece
For Jaden daniels and go back to WHAT i said
about the, giants and then multiply it by two with the.
COMMANDERS i, mean if you try and stack the, box
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you're gonna get beat By Jaden. Daniels if you lay,
that you, know to protect Against, daniels Then Jeremiah love
is going is gonna beat, you and they've got a
decent offensive. LINE i think this could be the final
piece for their. OFFENSE i understand what you're saying about their,
defense but they also have a defensive minded coordinator WHO
i think is able, to you, know make a mountain
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out of a mole, hill and he'll get the most
out of the players on that side of the.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Ball ball spin it, Out, tony that side of the.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
BALL i just think With Jeremiah, love you help the
offense and you make Sure Jayden daniels that much more.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Effective.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
YEAH i really thought About love, Here. TONY i just
couldn't quite get. There all, right let's go to you,
First bengals at.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Eight bengals need help a lot of, areas especially on.
Defense Peter woods is sitting. THERE i Gave Peter woods
consideration with The jets, pick BUT i had Got Caleb
downs rated much. Higher you, know they need a lot
of help on the interior of that defensive. Line they
Took stewart From TEXAS a AND m with the first
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pick as their edge rusher of the. Future Trey, hendrickson
the other edge, rusher is probably on his way. Out
we had That Peter woods plays on the, inside which
is where they need a lot of. HELP i, Mean
woods is a guy that's got great. Upside production hasn't
been there this, year but as we've talked about on
the show numerous, times it's been a terrible season At.
CLEMSON i like his, UPSIDE i like his. Ability he's
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just got to take the game to the next level.
AGAIN i think it's a good, player one of the
best players on the, board that fits in need In.
Cincinnati SO i have The bengals Taking Peter.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
WOODS i thought About Peter woods, here BUT i think
That Trey hendricks And saga is gonna have to resolve
itself in one, way shape or for him this. Offseason
i'd be surprised if he's on The bengals again next,
year just considering how ugly it was last, offseason and
now there's even less time left on his contract they
can franchise.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Him SO i just don't think he's going to be.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
There and my next favorite defensive, player and this is
me predicting that this player is going to absolutely blow
up the combine and become the kind of soup d
jore and player du jour for all the draft people out.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
THERE i gave him.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Day David belly the pass rusher out Of Texas. Tech
The bengals need are going to need a pass rusher
If Trey henderson is not. THERE i know he's a little,
undersized but he's got a lot of juice so and
the production is gonna be, That, tony he might finish,
with you, know, twelve, thirteen fourteen to fifteen sacks this.
Year So i'm going With David, bailey edge rusher out
of the bed out Of Texas. TECH i know he's
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not this highly rated by most, people BUT i think
once we get to the, DRAFT i think he will be.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
No concern that they go edge rusher back to back.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Years him And belly And Schamar stewart are very different
types of edge. Rusher stewart's a lot, bigger SO i
think they can compliment each other on either side of the.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Line right.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Up, Now, Yeah i'm up now number nine for The,
cardinals a guy that you already selected The. Cardinals you, Know,
TONY i really wanted to give a wide receiver, again
BUT i didn't Think, AGAIN i can't get On Jordan
tyson as the top ten, pick AND i don't Think
cardinal take Compliments Marvin Harrison. Junior, WELL i think they're
very similar the size and stuff like, that SO i
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didn't want to go.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
THERE i thought about a defensive.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
TACKLE i thought About Peter woods, here BUT i just
had to Go spencer for the offensive. Tackle they need
help on the right. Side they Have Paris campbell left.
Tackle the right tackle is a bit of a. MESS
i Think Kelvin beacham's are started there right, now so
he's a.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Veteran he got to move on from him.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Eventually SO i Win Spencer fino here for The, cardinals
who need to get that offensive line a little bit
better for whatever their quarterback situation looks like next.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Year, YEAH i completely agree with. You And finel's off my.
BOARD i had The browns taking him at, Sixth SO
i have The cardinals Taken Francis mowega the offensive right
tackle For Miami Maui.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
NOAH i Think tony is aus Pronounced Maui.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
NOAH marioa, okay, RIGHT i should know that is real
the places for The. Jets but, ANYWAY i, mean he's an.
ATHLETE a lot of people project him the, guard BUT
i think he's an athletic right tackle and the.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Lane johnson sort of.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Mold he's fluid on the second, level he moves, well he's,
Strong he's got a lot of, Upside and like you,
SAY i mean they Started Paris johnson the first round
pick at the right a couple of years. Ago they
moved them to the left. Side they need a lot
of help on the right. Side kelvin beach, HIM i,
mean he's an undersized the left. Tackle it's trying to
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play on the strong. SIDE i think my ago really
helps that situation a.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Lot let's go to The DOLPHINS a. Ten, tony you're.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Up this is really my only.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
REACH i would have liked to put an offensive tackle,
there but both offensive tackles are off the. Board they
need help on the defensive. Line you, know this is
the one.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Pick THAT i.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Kind of went off my board, on kind of reached,
on AND i gave them one. Sword De, layne the
cornerback OF. LSU i Like delaye a, lot BUT i
like him more in the middle part of the first
round rather than the top. Ten he's a, big physical
corner that can play backed off the. Line he can
play in man. Coverage he's having a terrific. Season kind
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of reminiscent or fulfilling the promise that he showed two
years ago For Virginia. Tech we'll see how he runs
at the. Combine you, know he may not be forty,
fast but he is football fast and he's got excellent ball.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
SKILLS i Went Francis maunoa. Here he was still on
the line the. Board for, Me, tony The dolphins offensive
line has been a problem for. Years whether he's a
tackle or a, guard it shouldn't matter For. Miami they
need an offensive. TACKLE i went, there thought about a
wide receiver. Here With Tyreek kills, injury they want to
put someone across from Jaywen waddle decided Maw wenoa was
the better. Pick AND i guess my one disappointment Quick
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tony THAT i couldn't get into the top ten Was Jeremiah.
LOVE i just couldn't find a landing spot for. Him
LIKE i, said the car the commanders ended up going.
Downs in my, version at some POINT i had The
raiders taking downs and then only two quarterbacks going in
the top, ten and THEN i Had love going to the,
commanders AND i kind of went off of. That so
that was the only THING i couldn't FIND i Think
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love will be a top ten pick in this. DRAFT
i just couldn't get him onto a team here in my,
version any regrets when you look at, YOURS i.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Mean, no because it basically matched up with my TO
myo except for the tenth pick of the, draft AND
i feel that that pick The dolphins with a critical
need at.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Cornerback, now you, know that's what.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Happens when you force the quarterbacks into the top. Ten
you get good players who start falling out of the top,
ten and those teams that end up selecting, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen you, know are in the driver's seat because they
can either get The Jeremiah love or they can make
a big trade for a team that wants to move
up to get A Jeremiah. Love and you, KNOW i
understand your scenario because as we've seen in the past
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twenty five, years quarterbacks are always, overdrafted and it's probably
gonna happen in twenty twenty. SIX i just can't put
guy players that haven't even played a full season on
the college level in my top.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Ten i'm, SORRY i totally get, It.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Tony all, right let's roll through these questions remind their
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Submitted Rob, staton what has Made? Tony what have you
made Of kaden, McDonald defensive Tackle Ohio state his performances
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and you're hearing anything about the likely of from returning
pro after the.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Year you always have to.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Figure that it's more than fifty to fifty that a
top Rated Ohio state buck guy underclassman's going to enter the.
Draft that's been the, history especially a guy that's already
won a national championship and is on the number one
team in the nation right. Now now when we talk
About Ohio, state everybody talks about wide receivers coming out
Of Ohio, state whether it Be Marvin, Harrison Garrett, Wilson Chris,
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Olave Jeremiah, smith And Mecha. Abuka but if you look
at the program's, history they've also had some sensational a
defensive lineman on a consistent. Basis you, know you go
back To Dan, wilkinson a guy by the name Of Vernon.
Golston some of those guys didn't pan out the bows
of brothers and with, McDonald remember there were two guys
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on the interior That Ohio state defensive, Line Tyleek williams
who was drafted in the first round by The lions
And Ty hamilton who was drafted in the fifth round
by The, rams which meant that McDonald wasn't getting playing.
Time But Ohio state has always had strong defensive linemen
that playing in THE. Nfl so AM i surprised by
his pure? Dominance, yes based off of the fact that
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he really didn't play too much in twenty twenty, four
but they didn't need him to. Play he's been a terrific.
PLAYER i, MEAN i think he's playing probably at a
higher level than High Leak, williams which if he you,
know which is something that will have to enter into
the equation as far as him entering the.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Draft absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Alight question number, two aiden, Think, tony what are your
thoughts on Training dad in this year's, Draft so a
team in need of a quarterback can move up and
do you think specifically The giants would consider going that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Route i'll answer that question. First, yes.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Absolutely if jackson are continues to play well and they
decide they don't need a quarterback and they're picking that.
High and Again i'm not sure they will be picking that,
high but if they, ARE i think this is At
tony where every day that ends at a.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Y you're gonna try to trade down in this year's.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Draft, yeah and.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
You, know like we said at the, top you, know
unless there is a generational type talent or that impact
type of player at the top of the, draft you're
gonna be working in the. PHONES i, mean last year
you had the quarterback at the top with Cam. Ward
then you had two outstanding players And Abdill carter And Travis.
Hunter you had some good players after, That Mason, Graham, Armond.
Membo you, know so there really Wasn't you were gonna
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have to pay a premium to get up and get
one of those. Selections the cost this year may not
be as, much but who is a team going to
trade up. For you have to factor that in and
what would they be willing to give away to move
up and get a, Player.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
No question about all?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Right statement number, three and, again a team has to
be wanting to move up to get that.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Guy having the partners really the.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Trick justin wants to know what, year in your, Opinion,
tony the WORST nfl draft class of this century both
in lack of Blue chips in depth and well the
twenty twenty six class blow that one at the water
with its.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Ineptitude, WELL i mean that remains to be. Seen AND
i didn't go back the entire. CENTURY i went back
to twenty thirteen and you look at the two thousand thirteen.
Draft first pick Was Eric, fisher second pick With Luke
joker that was pick to third pick Was Deon Jordan Lane.
Johnson the fourth pick really, good but you go on and,
on it was bust after. Bust you Had Sheldon, richardson
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who was a solid player. There and coming out of that,
draft you Know Eric, reid who's had a long. CAREER
i don't know that it's been it's been a distinguished.
Career BUT i mean the two thoy thirteen draft compared
to what people thought it was going to be like on,
PAPER i, mean it was a complete gut.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
AND i think people knew that at the top of
that draft that those picks weren't your normal Blue chippers
at the. Time but, yeah it certainly did not did
not Hit John, latini thinking The giants and a good
linebacker in the middle Rounds, tony any sleepers That giant
fans can try to look for in terms of an
inside off ball linebacker in the middle rounds of the.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Draft you, KNOW i Like David, widgate who's going to
be an Early day three pick if he enters the.
Draft he's a junior out Of. Maryland ALTHOUGH i hear The.
Terps the Terra pins are working hard to keep, them
which may be easier now since they've already announced that
their their coach is coming. Back jayshawn borrow them out Of,
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michigan sort of like a Miniature Avrol, reese an off
ball linebacker who can also rush the. Passer Lander barton
Of utah has kind of fallen off a. Bit two years.
Ago he was great as A day two. Pick he's
now A day three. Selection but he's shown that ability
in the past to play in. SPACE a guy that
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we've mentioned here a couple. Times we talked about him
at length When Mike grenner was On caleb Ellhams or FROM,
TCU a smaller guy h six' one two and, thirty
pounds but a great pursuit sideline to sideline linebacker that
can cover. The pass he can get to the sidelines
and shut the corners off from the. Running backs as we,
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talked about this is gonna be a terrific year for off.
Ball linebackers so If the giants don't get a crack
At An rville reese early in, the draft or they
even pass, on them there'll be guys there in THE
second I know i have a, third round the second
round And early day THREE that i believe can play
early in their.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Rookie Seasons, so tony Then then i'll just follow up
with the second Part Of frank baffone's question. From before
you think this is PROBABLY and i think it is
one of the best off ball linebacker classes we've seen
in a.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
LONG time i love.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
The off ball.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
LINEBACKER class i think the problem linebacker linebackers these days
is everybody automatically judges them on.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Can they rush?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
The passer are the air rushers and. It's not we've
seen this and the results of. The draft, you know
those that four to three week side linebacker has, been devalued,
you know because a lot of times they stick them
on the inside of.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
A, three four and they let them run to.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
The ball but with these guys not only a great pursuing,
to run but they can.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Also cover, all.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Right let's go to our final.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Two questions these ones come, from Upstairs Big ohio State Fan,
dan salomon one of, Our. Riders tony have you ever
seen a college have three top ten potential, draft picks
but while they're two best players on, their rosters still
are not. Draft ELIGIBLE and i think he's Referring To
julian Saying And jeremiah smith with those, two players by, the,
way yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Other things He's Think sonny styles is going to be
a top. Ten pick i'm not of that. Same MIND
and I, LIKE styles i just don't think he's a top.
Ten pick and we Are Our ohio state family because
my daughter Graduated From ohio State, in may so and
she'll be down the City this Saturday At Ohio state
bar watching.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
The game.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
You?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Know what and what was the two.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Thousand and five two thousand And six auburn actually had,
three picks three players.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Looked like in the.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Top Nine ronnie brown with the second pick of the
draft Of, The Dolphins cadillac williams with the fifth pick
of the draft To the Buccaneers And carlos rogers with
the ninth pick of the draft to The Then, Washington
redskins so that has. Happened before but then the next
year their, First player ankor was the. Second rounder, so
no there's not been the depth. OF talent i think in.
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Some cases obviously the transfer portal and nil has. Helped
This But ohio state always regularly has guys not only
in the top not in the, first round but in the.
Top fifteen and when you win the, national championships it's
easier to track those types of players.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Are there We Got, matthew sittak who Was a. VANDERBILT
alumni i want to know just how high of a
Ceiling Does eli. Stowers have he doesn't have the, biggest
frame but he does the modern big slot.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Tight end who IN the nfl does he remind You Of, tony.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Okay you're gonna have to help me out with the.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Name here he's as far as, his ability the kid
that played For The New Orleans sate saints all those.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Years Ago, jimmy graham there, you go.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
THAT'S exactly, i mean a guy who can, get downfield
make the. Big reception he's tough to cover because even
though he doesn't have the, biggest frame he's still going
to outsize the, defensive backs the safeties in. The secondary
he's still fast enough to. Outrun linebackers he is your
traditional move. TIGHT end i think what happens is In
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that vanderbilt offense With The diego pava and, everything else
he kind of gets lost. In it if he was
on an offense that, you know wasn't so dynamic and wasn't,
so diverse his production may be even better than what it.
Is now and it's pretty good now with fifty seven
receptions seven hundred and. Five, Catches Listen eli stowers has
been a good player since he was a Sophomore At New.
(42:31):
Mexico state and the fact Is is vanderbilt made the
right choice by giving him a large nil deal to,
come back and we're seeing the fruition not only in,
his production But the vanderbilt offense And the. VANDERBILT record
i think stours maybe a day A late day, two
pick depending on how he, works out no later in the.
(42:51):
Fourth round but in the, right system he's going to
be a REAL good nfl.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Tight end, All, right tony let's. Wrap here we got
three quick matchups. This weekend you want to, Touch on
we'll be Talking the arizona secondary to open. The show
They Get jordan Tyson In arizona state.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
This week that should.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Be fun that's Gonna Be and tyson had a return.
LAST week i think he had two receptions for sixty yards.
Or something so he's on. The men that's gonna be, a,
big big big, big challenge, a big big Opportunity For,
genesis smith the Safety from Arizona And. Treadon dukes see
how that works out, for him.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
All right Other Matchup rubin Bain against pittsburgh Offensive Tackle
ryan bear six seven three. TWENTY five i think we've
talked about him briefly on a, previous show but this
is a big test. For him and by, THE way
i want To See rube mainstore getting a little bit More.
Production tony he only has three sacks, and look he's
been great. This year rubin's gonna be a, good Player
but i'd like to see the production start to kick
(43:44):
up a little.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Bit, here rubin let's go.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Come on coming into, this season a lot, of people,
including myself Thought that bear could be a first. Round
pick he's been up. And down he is a bigger athletic.
Right tackle the thing to watch here is when they're
pitted up at once against. Each Other once bear gets
his hands On ruby bain is being able to get.
Off blocks is he able to defeat the blocks or
is a situation Where When, ryan behar the right Tackle,
(44:07):
in pittsburgh gets his Hands on ban. Game over it'll
be interesting. To watch remember this is a big Game
because Pittsburgh Beat georgia tech. Last week miami's in a
driver's so this is a big game for. Both teams
as far as who's gonna play IN the acc.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Title, Game yeah miami right on the fringe of the college,
football playoffs so they need to win every single game
the rest of. The, way remember there are some questions
about What rubyen bain's arm length is going to be
when that gets measured at, the combine how he handles
a long offensive Tackle, LIKE bear i think we'll Be,
telling finally another edge rusher offensive.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Tackle matchup this one of the.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Big Ten Tony Northwestern, caleb tiernan who we've talked about
a lot this year Against gab jakis Out. Of illinois
disappointing Year, for illinois but he's been very productive, nine
sacks three.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Fource, fumbles yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
He's explosive Tiern in it plays Left. TACKLE northwestern i
think he's gonna be a right tackle at the, next
level maybe.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Even guard he doesn't show that.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Great lateralge jockas, is quick, he's mobile he can rush,
the edge he quickly gets up. The fields is this
is the type of Matchup that jockis can exploit.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
If you watch.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
The film or on the, other hand This is kiernan
has an opportunity to prove doubters like myself that he
deserves to play left Tackle.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
On sunday, all right And, then tony that's all, we,
Got man it. Was fun have A. Happy thanksgiving my
friend will be back. Next week still working on what
our topic is going, to be trying to get a couple.
Of guests we'll see how. That goes but we're gonna
have a lot of games to review and look.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Forward to we got.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Rivalry weekend we'd even Touch On Michigan, ohio state which
is another game coming up this weekend that should, be
exciting and then we have the conference championship games to look.
Forward to so a lot next week on. Draft season
tony Enjoy. Your thanksgiving, my Friend, thanks.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
John she say to you and, YOUR family a lot
of our.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Viewers, of course absolutely everybody. Out There.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Happy thanksgiving you Can Find draft season on your favorite.
Podcast Platform prease subscribe has his. Own feed it's also
On the giants official podcast, network feed and you can
find them In the giants, YouTube panel, giants app and
everywhere you find. Your Podcast For, Tony Pouline I'm. John
schwelt we'll see you next Time On. Draft, season everybody
Have happy thanksgiving
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