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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Slash Giants for a week four rapid reaction. Mattelenburg here
with the Super Bowl champ Howard Cross, the Giants hosting
the Los Angeles Chargers coming away with the twenty one
to eighteen win in the rookie Jackson Dart's first career
NFL start at quarterback, and Howard, we got to start
with how this game started. Giants opening drive on offense,
Jackson Dart leads the team down the field in a
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very balanced drive. It felt like that ended up with
a fifteen yard rushing touchdown from the rookie quarterback.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You know, that's the scripted plays of the Giants. We
probably put up the first fifteen they did a good
job of executing them. They did someone no huddle, which
helped out a lot, keeping the Chargers on the field,
making sure that they couldn't change personnel, and it really
worked out for him as a way did the uptempo stuff,
they were able to get more plays off, put the
Chargers on their heels a little bit, able to complete
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it all the way down to the red zone and
punch the ball in.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Of the nine plays on that opening drive, seven were
running plays. We talk about this weekend and week out
how important it is to establish the run. But what
did you see from the run game?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Early in this one, I saw a little person named
Scatta but running the ball. I thought it was really
amazing when you watch him on the field to see
what's actually happening. As the line starts to engage the
defensive lineman, they'll be like a pocket or a hole
or something. He will hop over the leg of the
lineman and step under his arm and then start his
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leg drop thing. So by the time the defensive linemen
are able to see him or get come in contact
to him, he's in their waist, already running forward, and
then he's able to spind and turn and lean if
it's open space, he's even more dangerous. But that is
to me how you get those no yard runs. He's
changing those into like three yard runs and four yard
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runs and people can't figure out why. I'm like, he's
like literally hopping into the middle of the pile and
starting to push with the lineman. It's very funny.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, we see the physicality cam scad but clearly not
afraid to take contact there. Talking about the balance though,
Brian Dable talked about after the game just how much
confidence he has in the rookie quarterback and how tough
he saw Jackson Dart. We know he injured his hamstring
in the first half, but he did get back out
there was still running in the second half, played through,
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powered through it. When you have a head coach that
just believes in you that much as a young player,
how much does that help you elevate your game?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It means a lot to a player. When someone believes
in you mean that you're going to go out and
execute the plays. Means that your teammates are looking at
you because the coach is talking highly of you and
making you feel like you're not just quote unquote player,
but in some cases a leader and nothing Dart's going
to be in that role of leader because that's what
quarterbacks usually did. He was very impressive running the the RPOs.
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I thought he did a good job of that. When
a freak iuy was coming, you know, the back would
be able to take him and he would run the
ball up field and get a lot of yards and
on boar with his legs. Then it turned into the
passing later on in the game. He got the ball
out on perfect time and I think probably one of
the most fascinating plays he had is that he had
to throw a side on him because a free rusher
came right into his face and he threw it around
the guy's body to THEO Johnson in the middle of
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the field, which was like pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, in talking about Theo Johnson too, we heard Jackson
talking about this after the game, and even Davill talking
about how Jackson THEO Johnson talked this week about when
they were watching film, Hey if we get this look,
I want you to sit on it right here, kind
of evaluating thinking about how to potentially attack a potential
defensive look. It came up today they saw that they
executed that. When you're a young quarterback and you're taking
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control in that situation and in that way and communicating
with your teammates. I mean as a tight end. That's
got to be helpful.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's very helpful. But I think, you know, we need
to think about what Day Balls doing. Dave Balls known
this kid for a long time. Wasn't just like he
just drafted him. He've known him before that. He said,
He's had a lot of confidence in him and knows
what he's going to do and how the kid thinks.
That's why they drafted him. And he's able to communicate
with him in a way that he can actually communicate
with the players that he's playing with. That helps him
out tremendously in the aspect of advancing week to week,
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you know, game to game. It'll be interesting to see
how he develops, you know, when defense has changed so quickly,
and now that people have got a little look at him,
some of the things they did last this week will
not be the same thing.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
They'll be available to him next week. How to get
in here? If you're lined up here, you got to
go over the middle with at the score right, How
do we make that happen?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't know, But does it makes sense of your
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course another storyline on the offensive side of the ball
in the Leak Neighbors went down early on in the
game with an apparent knee injury. We don't know the
specifics of the injury just yet. He was carted off
the field. Briandable after the game said he hadn't spoken
with the medical staff just yet to know the specifics,
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but I'm sure later this week we'll get more details
and wishing the Leak Neighbors e speedy recovery from that.
But the offense aside, I mean the credible performance from
the rookie quarterback in his debut, The defense was imperative.
You don't get a win like this without the performance
that this defense put on two interceptions Drew Phillips gets
one in the second half, brings down inside the fourth.
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Dexter Lawrence bat's a ball down, comes away with it.
We were very close, Howard, to seeing a thick six
in this game. Dexter Lawrence was actually tackled inside the
five by Justin Herbert. Yes, that did just happen, but
a play like that not only is imperative to give
your offense the ball in great position, but also just
ignite a spark.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's a good thing when you get turnovers. Turnovers are big.
They've made a couple other turnoves that were called back,
so you know, they could have had four turnovers in
this game, all interceptions, by the way, which is really cool.
So I think it's really good because the more times
you have to offense the ball, the more times they
get a chance to score it, no matter if it's
three points or six points. But you got to give
him more opportunities, more more cracks at it. That's what
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gives the offense more confidence too. Even though they might
be having a rough time and from time to time,
if they keep getting the ball, something's going to break.
Something good is going to happen. And they got.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Three touchdowns and they you know, unfortunately some of those
plays with Dexter Lawrence they had to settle for a
field goal, but they did get points on the board.
And you know, credit to Jude Mcatamney coming in for
the injured Graham Gondo. Jude a second year player. They
brought in young way Ku as a competition this week,
and Jude earned the spot and was able to kick
some field goals and connect in that regard today talking
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about though the defense as well, they were able to
get a lot of pressure on Justin Herbert. They were
able to make him uncomfortable early in the game. The
Chargers left tackled Joe All did leave the game with
an injury. He didn't return. And yes, losing your left
tackle is a big plot point when you're talking about
pass rush, but that aside, still lots of credit to
this Giant's defense and this Giant's pass rush who were
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able to get Herbert uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, you know, they didn't just lose All. They've lost
their other right tackle, they lost their guard. I think
when of their centers is a backup center, so they've
they've kind of played like the bingo with the offensive line,
kind of like the Giants have done for.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Years and years.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And now you can see how it affects like good quarterbacks.
I've always said, when you when you have that kind
of setup, you have that kind of bad luck with
your line, a lot of injuries and stuff, no matter
who's your quarterback, as great as Herbert is. You see
how the defense got after them and they did took
to total advantage if you're not supposed to be in
there because you're not the starter. There's a big drop
off between the starter and you think exposed that Burns
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had a great, great day.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Thibodeaux had a great day.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You talked about Dexter, he was having even Carter got
in and made some plays. So you're having guys like
really really getting after guys. I think that. And what
was more impressive than that is that it was really
warm today, so you expect guys to wear down really
quickly and to be tired and not be able to
and they were able to steal. Keep putting pressure on them.
Everybody who rotated them was putting pressure on them. That's
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what that's what you want to see.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, it was eighty eighty five degrees, bright, sunny day
on the fields. I'm sure it felt a lot warmer
than that out there, And like you mentioned, especially when
it comes to defense, you see kind of the tired
legs catching up to you when you're in that batting heat.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, there's not a lot of hands on the waist,
which I thought was pretty good, and that that that's
the users to indicated. Everybody's got their hands in the ways.
Even late in the game, guys was still ready to go.
Dexter caught a lot of reps today with a lot
more in hands. Is kind of getting themselves back and
play in shape. I thought, after that run down the field,
maybe he'll be tired, but he came right back in
the next series. Thibodeau, of course, is looking good. Burns
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looks incredible so fast. You look at the guy and
you don't look at him as a waye like he's
not that big. He's like he's tall, but he's not
that big. And he's still able to put the pressure
on the on the tackles and get by them and
push them in the backfield. So he's a good player,
and Carters kind of coming into his own. He did
have the won't won't give up the fact that he
jumped off side in a critical moment in the game,
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Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, Dual Carter, it was fourced down. The Chargers were
trying to draw the Giants off side. They do so
successfully if Dual Carter gets a call. The very next play,
Herbert connects on a thirty six year passing touchdown, and
what could have been a turnover on downs ends up
being a touchdown for the Chargers. But despite that, Carter
talked about this afterwards. He said, Yeah, you know what
I'm gonna learn from that, I'm gonna grow from that.
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It's they call it a rookie mistake for a reason.
Chargers did get some points on the board in this one,
but they did never lead. The Giants held a lead
from that opening drive seven to nothing and never looked back.
How to lead the entire game? And when you have
a performance like that, you know, here Dable talk about
just how important it was for this team, these players,
this coaching staff. You got a three to zero Chargers
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team coming in with a top five defense, a number
six offense in the NFL, not an easy opponent. You
give them their first loss, you get your first when
that's got instilled some confidence in this group that's been
struggling to start the season.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Well, it does, and you did it at home, so
that that kind of made it an even bigger And
I think that the things that I said before the
game and there was like people have been asked me
all weeks since they've made the announcement darts is gonna start.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What do you think is the key thing? Is that
the others.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm like, all the other players have to play at
their best the entire time to help this kid out.
It has nothing to do with is he ready to
play orf he's not ready to play. They have to
do their job. They're doing their job. His job becomes
a lot easier. If they're not doing their job, then
it becomes very hard for him to play. The others
played very well that they did. When the neighbors goes down,
the other receivers step up. The tight ends played well.
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The offensive line this fight, they're you know, giving up
a few sacks, like they were four sacks, and it
wasn't like they were giving them up because they were
doing something right or wrong. They were just cutting the
guy free. There was four guys rushing. They're letting guy go.
So a four is not I five is not blocking four.
Something's wrong. So that that was a problem. They'll work
on that and see that they shouldn't happen again. But
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outside of that that, that was great for the offense.
And then we got to mention Scata but who had
an incredible day running the ball, able to pick the
pick up the blitz. Yeah, he does every like lead
blocking when when Dart's running, So that that's Those are
things that are great defensively from the secondary, which is
a little juckling high. I got to give them some
of that, but they did get They had four interceptions,
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two of them actually counted, but definitely known they had
three interceptions because Dexter had one of those interceptions. They
did well. The linebackers played pretty strong through the entire game,
so everything was really working. The kicking game was working
that which is like you don't really think about special
teams being a factor, but it was. It was a
factor of today. So I was really happy with all
parts participating at the same time.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, it's great to see the Giants getting a win.
Twenty one to eighteen is the final score. Getting a
win at home, Howard, I know when you talk to
this team. During training camp, you emphasize the importance of
winning a game, winning your games at home at MetLife Stadium.
But next week, Week five, they're taking the show on
the road. Chins are headed to New Orleans to take
on the Saints. The Saints have yet to get a
win this season. They just fell to the Bills on
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Sunday in Week four. Any National Football League team, though,
whether they've got no wins or four going into Week five,
is still a tough opponent. How do you assess what
do you need to see from this group going into
that one?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Just growth, you know, that's that's the biggest thing. Now.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Now you're kind of starting to establish your run game.
That's going to drive teams while Uh, and if you
establish a run game, then your play action game is
going to really pick up the defense. Outside of a
couple of loose, loose on leverage sides, they had a
pretty good game. Now, they didn't have as many penalties.
I think they had three or four penalties at best,
and that made a big difference in the game as well. Uh,
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you got a rookie quarterback about just playing in New Orleans,
They're going to give him grief. The secondary is gonna givehimrief.
What all the looks he's going to get, uh, you know,
having having burns coming off one side, typical coming off
the other side. And you can't even see around Dexter
in the middle as it could be a problem. So
I expect the Giants are really good after New Orleans.
You know, it's to get right game for the Giants.
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They got right against the hut writings because Chargers now
they should get better, even better against the Saints.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
We'll see if the Giants can grow and build off
a week four win. Giants get their first win of
the season. Twenty one to eighteen is the final score
over the visiting Los Angeles Chargers. And that's a wrap
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