October 24, 2025 • 34 mins
On this episode of the Giants Huddle podcast, John Schmeelk sits down with Giants tight end, Daniel Bellinger, and offensive lineman, Jon Runyan Jr, to talk about the Giants offense, John chats with Eagles Insider, Dave Spadaro, about the matchup with Philadelphia, and Bob Papa has his weekly sit down with Giants Head Coach, Brian Daboll.
:00 - Daniel Bellinger
11:05 - Dave Spadaro
22:45 - Jon Runyan Jr.
26:10 - Brian Daboll
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time to get inside the Giants Hut.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Let's go, Giants Out the Giants bull give me some job.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's roll.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought
to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants
from the Hackensackerpreney Health podcast Studio. Keep getting Better. I
am John Schmelk. Thank you so much for being with
us today. Everybody, we have our normal Friday interview slash
preview podcast. I'm going to talk to Giants tight end
Daniel Bellinger. Also going to talk to Giants offensive lineman
John Runyon Jr. We're going to have Bob Poppa with
(00:31):
the head coach of the New York Football Giants, Brian Dable,
and Zach Berman, who covers the Eagles for the Athletic,
will join us to preview Philadelphia. All right, let's start
off with my long interview with Giants tight end Daniel Bellinger.
Very happy this week to be joined by Giants tight
end Daniel Bellinger. Belly, what's up man?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Thanks for having me man, Happy to be with you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Let's start here. Four catches idiot yards to you. Last
week career high touchdown. What went well for you last
week that allows you to put up that type of production.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah, I mean, you know with guys going down, myself,
THEO and tight end group as a whole lot to
step up make some plays, and I felt like we
did that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You guys have leaned into tight end stuff the last
three weeks. Over forty twelve personnel last three games, the
six most in the NFL. How has these personnel changes
you think to help the offense? And how have you
seen it maybe impact how defenses are approaching you with
having two tight ends on the field.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Well, yeah, I mean it gives our offense a lot
of versatility, allows us to do a lot of different
things in the run game and the pass game. It
helps having tight ends that can do both, and it
just keeps the defense on their toes. You know, they
have to either put in nickel defense or base defense
to kind of switch things up, and they're not sure
what we're going to do, and that gives our offense
and edge.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You think two tight ends, you generally think under center stuff.
But you guys still been doing largely a lot of
shotgun with the two tight ends. Is there a difference
for you guys with two tight ends, whether it's shotgun
or on their center.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Oh, not too much.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
You know helps Jackson, you know, get his keys and
read the defense a little bit better in the shotgun,
but it doesn't change too much for.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
The tight ends.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
How have you seen teams? Have you seen them lean
into more base? Have you seen them either maybe put
more guys at the line of scrimmage? Have you seen
them just how they're approaching you using two tight ends one?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, typically you know they'll add guys in the box
and go more base defense. But you know when they
do that, you know, catch Calf and Jackson and they
make they have to call us and make the play
and adjust the defense.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Now, we've also seen Camp Scattaboo kind of emerge over
the past few weeks, and it's more of a power
style running game. I would say, does that just lean
into the impact of twelve personnel even more, having a
guy that's always going to fall forward, get those tough
between the tackle yards.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
You know Scat's a special guy and he's gonna run
through somebody's face no matter what.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So defense has to count for that.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
And you know when you have a guy like Scott
that can do that, you know, opens it up for
the tight ends as well.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You say he's a special guy. What look, I think
fans have their impression of him. I see what I see.
But as a teammate in the huddle that plays with him,
what makes him a special guy?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
One word, it'd have to be energy. The guy just
brings so much energy to the huddle, to the offense,
and just on the field, and he plays with his
hair on fire, and that, you know, makes us want
to play just as much as just as much hair
on fire as him, and you know, it's a lot
of fun to have him out there.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
All right, Take me behind the scenes a little bit,
because in the offseason and even last year, you guys
are a very heavy three wide receiver, eleven personnel team,
that's what you practiced a lot of in the summer.
Now you have twelve personal packages and all that stuff.
Did you have to transform some of those eleven personnel
plays into two tight end plays or did you have
to actually install new stuff given how much you lead
(03:22):
me into the double tight end stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, I mean somewhat of both. You know, with the
two tight end stuff, we got to implement new things.
And kind of different nuances to the offense, but overall,
you know, it's a similar offense. We're just kind of
finding different ways to use the tight end instead of
receivers on certain routes. But at the same time, you know,
me and THEO can run some of these receiver routes,
so keeping it consistent and helping Jackson with it as
much as possible.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And we've seen a lot of i'll call it fullback
stuff out of shotgun. We're cams and pistol and either
you were THEO or next to the quarterback kind of
in a stagger at fullback type of role. How is
that different for you and what do you like about
having that as part of your job now?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, I mean I feel comfortable with it. I've been
doing it for a few years, so definitely definitely the comfortable,
comfortable spot for myself and THEO. But it just again
brings versatility to our offense, allows us to do different
things out of the backfield. You know, allows us to
be the fullback role, traditional role leading up through the
A gap, and it also allows us to kind of
slip past the linebackers and so again just kind of
giving the defense different looks and kind of different things
(04:21):
to keep them on their toes.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I was gonna ask you one route that I know
that or one play that I've seen you guys run
a lock going back even the last year, maybe the
year before, where your line up as a full back,
you play action, you was the lead blocker. Then guys
are worried about the run and you release and it's
not even like dump off. You're running like deep flag
routes and stuff like that. Does that type of stuff
and is that kind of an example of the type
of matchup advantages these this type of style can give
(04:44):
a team.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
You know, I think the coach you do a good
job of trying to find these different mismatches, and you know,
it's tough. It's tough for a linebacker when you know
you have two three times where we're leading up as
a fullback, hitting them in the mouth, and then two
plays later it's slipping the right pass and for a
wheel route or something like that. So you know, just
keeping them guessing helps us a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Talk about how well the offensive line has played over
the last three four weeks since Andrew's come back. I
talked to John Running about this the other day, and
I asked him if he thought it was like maybe
the best three game Stretcher's seen from the group. And
he didn't say no. He didn't say yes, but he
didn't say no. What have you seen from this offensive
line group since Andrew's come back? And just frankly, how
well they're playing? Is I feel like it's flowing on
the radar a little bit, to be honest with you, And.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
You know some of this comes from from the younger
guys too, but just that energy and you know, the
old lines just they're rising to the level of it,
and you know they're playing gritty, they're playing tough, and
you know they're they're a veteran group that we can
lean on.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Do you find that you guys are being asked to
chip a little bit less now that you have Andrew
Thomas a left tackle.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Dred percent him and him Andrew Maine.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know they's playing great.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah, they're both playing. They're doing great jobs on the edges.
So again it allows us to kind of open up
more and not how to do so much chip help?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
How does that impact you if you have to chip
or not chip and you're trying to get into a route.
Does that change the type of routes you can even run?
How does that impact you?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Yeah, I mean it changes our timing a lot. You know,
when you chip, you got to make sure you get
the d on the right angle to help the tackle
because you don't want to, you know, push him up
the field or you don't want to jam inside and
kind of help them with their games. So definitely definitely
changes up our timing on different things in terms of
route running and stuff like that. And so it allows
us to kind of get out and get into the
route faster instead of having a jam and then get
(06:17):
into the route.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I feel like this hasn't impacted you guys at all
this year, but I've seen with other teams if there's
not good continuity between tight end and the offensive tackle,
sometimes the chip actually can be detrimental to the tackle
if you guys are not on the same page. So
how often do you guys work on that? And how
do you do you communicate pre snap how you're gonna chip?
How does that work?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Oh? Yeah, I mean one hundred percent. Because you know a
lot of these guys now and nowadays, they get off
so quick on the ball, especially when you're on the road,
you can't hear the snap count and everything, and so
we work on it pretty consistently, just kind of getting
different angles, making sure we get the right angle to
help the tackle, and making sure the tackle knows like, hey,
we'll give We'll give him my heads up, usually in
the huddle or as we're going to the line, like hey,
(06:55):
you're gonna get a chip here. That way he knows
he can get a different PAS set when he has
a chip, in a different pass it when he doesn't
have a chip.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Asked you about Scataboo. I gotta ask you about Dart.
Talk about in the locker room. You know, rookie, he's
you know, he's rocking the chain. He's got some swag
to him. Give me like the locker room, Like what
makes Jackson Dart the guy?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, I mean, one word for him is just moxie.
You know, he's got that moxie to kind of in
that swager going in the locker room and he he
you know, you wouldn't think he's a rookie, you know
what I mean, the way he kind of leads us,
the way he kind of understands the offense, can read
a defense and put the ball where it needs to go.
He's definitely ahead of his years and he's an exciting player.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I think from the outside everyone kind of waits the
rookie quarterback he's going to have that one game where
everything is just to see stuff he hasn't seen before
and things that just fall apart. I mean, there hasn't
even been like a quarter like that. I don't think,
why do you think he's been able to be so
able to adjust to all the new things that these
he's played Some of the best coordinators in the league too,
(07:51):
have thrown at him over the past four weeks.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I mean it's a testament to him. You know, he's
done the film study. You know, obviously it's a testament
to Russ and Jamis in the quarterback room to help
him get ready, but you know, he does a lot
of stuff on his own, a lot of studying, watching
the film, and then at the same time we're there
for him to lean on in case he needs us,
whether it's a call on offense or if it's something
that he sees.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
He does a good job.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Of coming to us on the sideline and throughout the
week kind of telling us what he sees on the
defense and what he wants from us, and then he
does a great job of executing it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And we've even seeing some checks too pre snap now
more and more on the two deep plays there was
I don't know what the calls are, what's going on,
but he's you know, tapping his head between before the
two big plays. To you, he made a check on
the on the Tracy run that winning for a touchdown.
Do you see that confidence in him translating what he's
seeing pre snap to then making the adjustments to get
(08:40):
you guys in the right position to settee?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I mean for him to be able to read a
defense like that, especially as a rookie, is a hard
thing to do.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
But he's done a great job of that.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And give credit to the coaches as well in Kafka
helping him kind of understand that and making those checks
in those reads. But you know he's in a great
job of executing and reading it.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
All right, let's get to the Eagles very quick. We
don't have to go through the whole team you guys
played with the recent all right, So what's the challenge
first and foremost of having to play a team like that?
Twice in three weeks that you're already very familiar with
to be in with, right.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I mean, one, they're a good team. They're very good teams,
so we got to be ready for them. But like
you said, we just played them. So we got to
find different ways to kind of dress up what we
did two weeks ago and get ready for it again
and making sure that they don't have an idea of
what we're gonna do, and make sure we switch it up,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You can't switch up too much though, either, right, you can't.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Switch it up too much, but different different kind of
motions and shifts to kind of get them guessing and
kind of get ready for that.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Can you look at stuff that you showed them in
the last game and then develop counters. Okay, well, this
play is gonna look the same. It's gonna look like this,
but oh but now we're gonna run play action off
at something like that.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
It's it's like a chess game because it's like, obviously
we want to run what we ran that worked, but
at the same time they're looking at the same places
like Okay, how can we stop this? And so we
got to have a counter to that. And then again,
if they show us something completely different, we gotta have
a reaction out as well.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Two more things on the defense, they're gonna have Jalen
quarterback in there and Quinny and Mitchell, who missed a
lot of that game two weeks ago it was gonna
be playing. What kind of impact does the presence of
those two players have on their defense and how they're
gonna approach you and how you're going to approach them.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, two great players.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
You know, we're fully aware of how good they are,
and so we definitely have a good game plan going
in against them. We just got to be aware and
understand that. Listen, if they make a play, we have
to make adjustments to it, and we have to understand
what they're going to try to do and make sure
we press the gas to make sure that they're on
their toes and not sitting back ready to fight.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Finally, you kind of mentioned this when I talked about
the twelve personnel stuff in general, but Nikobe Dean it
was his first game back, the first time you guys
played the Eagle, So we not kind of all the
way back now we is, and they have him John Campbell,
the rookie, he was very good and Zach Bond, who
was an All Pro linebacker. Do you think you might
see some more base defense from them this week? Given
all three of those guys are healthy and quite frankly,
how will you guys ran the ball them a couple
(10:41):
weeks ago, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
You know, obviously towards the end of that game, we
did a good job executing and running the ball. So
I think they're going to be ready for that. We
just got to be ready to counter off it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Belly, best luck, appreciate the time.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Houddle up, get in here.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the
middle with at the score? Great? How do we make
that happen?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Bud?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Citizens does makes sense of your money with Citizens Official
Bank of Eli Manning.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Great stuff from Belly. Just a reminder enter for your
chance to watch a Giant's road game in MetLife Stadium
with a special appearance by Eli Manning courtesy of Citizens,
the Official Bank of Eli Manning and the New York Giants.
For details and to enter, visit away Game watchparty dot
com by November first. All right, now, let's turn our
attention to the Giants opponent. This week, the Giants take
(11:27):
on the Eagles for the second time in three weeks.
I talked to Zach Berman from The Athletic about everything
that's new about the Eagles, what's different and what's the same,
and who might be on the field that wasn't the
last time these two teams played, all right, and now
we turn our attention to the Giants' opponent. We welcome in.
See your NFL rider for the Athletic also covers the Eagles.
He is Zach Berman and former New York Giant beat rider. Zach,
(11:48):
what's going on, man? How are you?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I am doing great. Always good to speak with you.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Absolutely, man, good to talk to you too. So this
these two teams played two weeks ago. What are the
Eagles saying about the dynamic of playing it so close,
especially when you have a rookie quarterback you're now seeing
for the second time in three weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, it certainly abnormal.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Interestingly, it's something that happened with Eagles and Giants two
years ago. Today to end the season, they played two
of the last three games. And I think that, I mean,
certainly the Giants have Eagles attention with the way the
Giants beat the Eagles two weeks ago, and I think that,
more than anything else is what jumps out here. Not
as much the timing of it, but if there was
five weeks in between games.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
The fact that the Giants played.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Eagles the way they did has Eagles on high alert
this week and I think is a real big part
of the Eagles mindset going into this game.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, So what's been the reaction to Dart, Jackson Dart,
what he's done, what he did to the Eagles a
couple of weeks ago, putting up those five touchdowns or
helping the Giants put up five touchdowns, and maybe what
kind of adjustments we might see trying to guard against
what he does well this week.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, a lot of respect for Jackson Dart in the
building and it really I mean, you hear from Vic
Fangio and and frankly, Vic Fangio has said it before
the Eagles Giants game, then the and then the Eagles
saw it up close in that game, and you've you've
heard it from uh Jalen hurts On on throughout the team.
And I think it's the quarterback run game that is
really getting their attention and should because the Eagles have
(13:18):
frankly struggled against the quarterback run game.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
This year, and you saw that with the way Jackson
Dart ran against the Eagles. Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And then the other thing too, is is the Giants
frankly were the more physical team in that game, and
that's not something you typically say against the Eagles, just
with the way the Eagles are built on the lines
of scrimmage and kind of the competitive toughness that they
have with a lot of the players there, the way
the Giants out physicaled them, to use that term, was abnormal,
(13:47):
And so I think that from a pride perspective, that's
that that's a big point of emphasis this week.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah. I got to imagine too, the Eagles will be
looking forward to having two of their best defensive players,
one of which you didn't play it all Agains the Giants
two weeks ago, another one that left in the first quarter,
Jill and Carter and and Quinea and Mitchell. What kind
of impact is gonna having those two guys back on
the field gonna make And how does that change everything
the Eagles do defensively having those two guys on the
field for the game.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeahjalen Carter in particular, he's he's the best player on
that defense. And uh, just when you talk about the
line of scrimmage, what what he brings, the presence he brings,
the the attention that he commands.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And that you start there.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Even when he's he's not getting to the quarterback or
he's not making a tackle.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I mean he has you know, four arms on him
most plays.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
But then when he's able to penetrate there, you you
see the impact that he makes. Eagles had to pick
six last week against the Vikings. If you're just watching
on TV, you seex return the interception. If you're watching
the game though, you see what was all caused by
by by Jalen Carter having that hit so and and
and the way he got to the quarterback on on
(14:56):
the play.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So Jalen Carter so disruptive.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Quinnon Mitchell is their top cornerback, no doubt about it,
and they missed him when he was gone. Now I
mean that I don't think the Giants wide receivers are
you know, like like the top combination in the league
if you will, but you you certainly want to have
your best cornerback on the field.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, And it's I think even though before he got
hurt in that first game, Zach. When these two teams
played a couple of weeks ago, the Giants weren't even
throwing his way. They basically said, all right, where's Kile
Ringo lined up? All right, that's what we're gonna throw
the football. And I think that's a plan. A lot
of the teams that have faced the Eagles have had
this year target Ringo, targeted Dorry Jackson. Where have the
Eagles gotten to with their second cornerback spot? And then
(15:36):
how do you expect them to handle that this week
against the Giants?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, you're spot on there, because it's been a weakness
for lack of a better term, or or has has
has underperformed relative expectations. A Dori Jacksons as a concussion
right now, he's in the protocol, didn't practice yesterday, so
you know, I don't know if he's if he's if
he's gonna be out there to play his his former
team on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So it could be he Ringo again.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Now, when we talk about the Eagles second cornerback spot,
the interesting thing is it's not the second best cornerback
on the Eagles, right like Cooper the Jean is one of.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
The best players on the Eagles. Eagles choose to keep
him in the slot.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I'm always curious to see if, if if they change
Cooper to Jean's usage and put someone else in the slot,
just because you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Know, Cooper's so good wherever he plays.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But if they stick the form, you'll see Keeley Ringo
out there opposite Quinyon Mitchell. Eagles could also play more
base defense, which is something that they can consider doing
now that in Ni Kobe Dean's back from injury.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And by the way the Giants have leaned, and that's
actually a good, good, good direction to go here. The
Giants have really leaned into twelve personnel two tight ends
over the past couple of weeks. Do you think we
might see more of that twelve personnel if the Giants
do roll out sixty seventy percent twelve personnel like we've
seen the last couple of weeks, where then you would
have Cooper Dejan shift outside in those more traditional base packages.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You saw that against the Vikings last week, and I
think it's actually a way that the Eagles like to play,
especially compared to last year.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
They you know, last year they wanted to be in Nickel.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You want to have Cooper the gene on the field
this year when you just look at the combination of
players that they have, and especially the strength that they
have at linebacker, and then some different things. If Nikobe
Dean's on the field and you can put your Jah
hot Camp on the edge and base, there's different ways
around it. So I do think the Eagles will play
(17:29):
more bass so long as the Giants for in twelve personnel.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
All right, I want to jump to the offensive side
of the ball here now, Zach. I watched the Eagles
offense on the All twenty two last week against the Vikings.
Tell me if my impression is right or wrong. The
offense looked largely the same, except they happened to hit
some really big plays that got the ball in the
end zone. Was that the main difference to you? Or
were there more fundamental things that you think were different
(17:52):
or better for the Eagles offense when they kind of
blew up against the Vikings last week.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, the end result was was different, But fundamentally or structurally, uh,
they they were under center more than they've been at
any point this season, and I think that opened things up,
especially when you look at you know, the the big
touchdown to Devonte Smith that came with the under center
play action and that was, you know, really the second
time they ran under center play action all season. It's
(18:19):
not something you typically see. And so uh they were
they were under center more. I think that that forced
the defense to uh to play them differently and then
Eagles were able to connect the two. You know, their
their best players downfield, and so you know, Jalen Hurts
had a perfect passer rating when the best.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Games he's played.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We know a J Brown DeVante Smith might be the
best you know, a wide receiver combination in the league.
Eagles haven't been able to get them going, and they
were able to get them going there and and it's
it's still the.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Running game is lagging behind.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But when they were under center, with the respect that
the running game gets, uh and I think you can
do some things out of play action there that really
open things up downfield.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
How do they get this running game going? It doesn't
look like Cam Jurgens is gonna play. You can correct
me if you have different information on that, but I
think to me, everything that has defined the Eagles struggles
this year, especially with the run game but even some
in the past game towards the pass pro has just
been the offensive line has not played to the same level. Zach,
Why do you think that is and do you think
that's frankly gonna change at some point.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, it's a great question. I think it's something they're
trying to figure out in.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
The building here, and I agree the offensive line hasn't
played to the level it's played in the past. I
do think though a lot of it's a numbers game.
Is you know, defenses are so are so focused in
on stopping the run against the Eagles this year, and
you know, the passing game hasn't necessarily taken advantage of
it the way they they needed to until last week,
(19:48):
of course, but the Eagles bread and butter always always
needs to be the running game when you have that
offensive line and you have Saquon Barkley. Now you mentioned
Cam Jurgens. Yeah, I mean Cam Jurgens wasn't at practice
on Wednesday. The Eagles practice in a few minutes here.
We'll see if he's out there today and then what
Eagles do if he's not out there, Because it wouldn't
surprise me if Landon Dickerson, who was their left guard.
(20:11):
You know, he actually didn't play in that first game
against the Giants, but is their Pro Bowl left guard.
They can slide him over to center. I think he's
a better center than Brett Toath, who replaced Cam Jurgens
last week. There's a few different combinations that they might
need to look at there, but the reality is it
starts up front and then you know Saquon is and
I don't need to tell you or your listeners, reviewers.
(20:31):
I mean, he's one of the best players in the league.
He hasn't been able to get those home run runs
this year, and that's that's kind of what's missing.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And so when you look at the yards per carry,
I think.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's really those explosive gains that change everything, and he
hasn't been able to get those off this year.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, seventeen rushes of twenty more yards last year. Doesn't
have one yet this year, which is just amazing when
you think about all right, final question, an you got
to get the practice zac anything that we missed that
I did not to ask you about that has been
kind of focused of the media down there. The questions
you guys are asking the coaches and players or that
the fans have kind of really attached themselves to as
they try to kind of and it's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
What's wrong with the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Was they're five and two and they're in first place,
but trying to get them play into their peak level.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean, I think as far as improving them,
it's it's it's getting the offense going. But as far
as a big story out of Philly this week, and
it's it is relevant to to to this game, is
you know, Brandon Graham comes out of retirement rejoins the Eagles,
and I mean from a like leadership perspective, that's a
big deal. But but from a football perspective, Eagles are
thin on the edge rusher spot. Azizo Jilari, the former Giant,
(21:39):
I don't think he's gonna play this with this this week.
So the Eagles have three healthy edge rushers, not including
Brandon Graham. So Brandon Graham, who's who's been golfing and
been on his couch, have been in you know, in
the media for the past you know, seven weeks, he
could very well.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Be active for this game.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Uh, it wouldn't surprise me given the fact that now
that you know the Eagles aren't. Aren't saying that that's
the case, and they could call someone up from the
practice squad. But if they don't activate Graham, they only
have three healthy edge rushers.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't think that's the way they want to go
into a game.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Tell the folks, I think you'll find all your great words, Zach.
This is awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
The athletic you know, I cover the team there, so
hope you subscribe. And I have a new book out
now called Leap Year, which takes fans behind the scenes
of legal Super Bowl season.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
That should be awesome. Z that good stuff, man. I'll
SIMI regards down to Philadelphia for you and hope you
catch up soon.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Buddy, look forward to it.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
If you want to know how to manage two minutes
of crunch time football, I'm your man.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan,
you should.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Talk to Citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'd like to learn about Annliar routine.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yes, I knew I could help make sense of your
money with Citizens. Great stuff from Zach there, Folks, don't
forget the Giants Foundational host Day five k racing and
kids are represented by Quest this Sunday, October twenty sixth,
nine am met Life Stadium, and their proceeds will benefit
the Giants Foundation. It's the cool event, guys. You can run,
you finish the race in the stadium so you can
check on Bett Live Stadium get inside of it as well.
All participants who're CV commemorative T shirt and after the
(23:05):
race stayed for a post race festival with appearances by
Giants legends and a live DJ. Register now with Giants
dot Com slash five k. The Giants Foundation is a
five to one C three nonprofit corporation. Thanks to Zach
awesome stuff from him. Now, let's talk to Giants offensive
lineman John Runyon Junior about the Giants offensive line play
(23:25):
and whether or not this last three game stretches one
of the best stretches he thinks this Giants offensive line
has had since he's been here.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
I think slowly, we've been getting better and better each
week and it's really starting to, you know, come to
you know, this culmination. I feel like we've been playing
really well, really consistent, and we're still getting better and
I still think we have so much more space to
continue to grow and is really encouraging, and that's what.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
We kind of wanted to going into the season.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
We were really better in offensive line, and it's about
time restart trying to take over games.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And I know it's not just Andrew coming back and
it clicks into Warks. I think it kind of just coincided.
But what is it? A bit about his return and
becoming looking more like himself that's gonna helped the whole
group played together as a unit.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, I have him coming back.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
He's he's the leader of offense, of offensive line, especially
up front, and getting him back there, you know that
the the blind side is going to be completely locked down. Uh,
you don't really have to worry about that, so we
can afford help on certain plays elsewhere. And I have
to worry about now that Andrew's gonna get his job done.
And you know he helps everybody out in the run game,
man past game and getting everything communicated as well. So
(24:31):
he's just been a you know, a great great having
him back.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Tyler Tracy is a good runner, like Skataboo is a
different style runner. Right, He's always falling forward, He's getting
an extra couple of yards in every play. How does
it change for you guys blocking from o of a
downholl runner like him, who's more of a power guy.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Yeah, you know, you just gotta kind of get in
front of guys and uh cover him up. And the
plays never over because, like you said, he's gonna hit somebody,
he's gonna fall forward. So when you're black ruth himing there,
you got to keep the feet running, watch out for
your elbows because he will run into them as well.
And you give him a little space and hit it
(25:06):
downhill for sure, So he's gonna hit the first hole
that he sees. And you know it's a good thing.
We're always getting your positive yards with him.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And then finally, when you have a guy like Jackson
who sometimes gets the ball all quick but other times
will feel pressure kind of slide in the pocket, the
play's never dead. How does that affect how you guys
kind of go about your business and pass pro.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah, we kinda just talked about we have to get
the black to infinity. You never know, you never know
what's gonna, you know, happen when he's got the ball
back there. Like you said, he plays on time a lot.
But you know, another really good part about his games
is either way he extends it. He's really slippery out
of the pocket. So you know when you feel the
(25:46):
d lineman stop and then n accelerat again, you know
he's back there dancing. So you know, it's a it's
kind of a mindset, does offensive lineman you're blocking verse
six seven, maybe eight seconds, He's moving around the field
and you just got to stay alive. I've been trying
to try to help them out, let them push them
down the field because as you see, you know that's
a lot where the big plays coming to a cow
when he's stepping out of the pocket and throwing it
(26:08):
down the field.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
John appreciate him.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
A thank you, jer thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Good stuff from John Ronyan Junior. Don't forget to interfer
your chance to watch the Giants road game met Life
Stadium with a special appearance by Eli Manning courtesy of Citizens,
the official make of Eli Manning and the New York Giants.
For details and to enter, visit Away Game Watchparty dot
com by November first. All right, as we do every week,
the voice of the Giants, Bob Papa, talk to the
head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
It's always we're joined by the head coach of the
New York Giants, Brian Dable. Giants take on the Philadelphia
Eagles and coach how difficult is it when you're playing
a team this close to when you last played them
or is it difficult?
Speaker 8 (26:45):
No, it's not difficult in terms of your preparations. I
mean it was a different week obviously, the first game
we played them. Short week, you don't have as many
things in you know, you spend a lot of time
in a short amount of time to get a lot
of stuff. You know, they have one game, You've already
looked at all the other games, They've looked at all
your other games. You know, you played one game in between,
(27:07):
and it's kind of business as usual.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
One of the things in their win last week that
was impressive was the fact that they held Minnesota to
one for six in the red zone, just when you
think about trying to attack them and deal with what
they have defense, and they have carter back in this
game that they didn't have in the game that you
played against them. What made them so good last week
(27:33):
in their red zone defense?
Speaker 8 (27:36):
Well, it goes down to number one players and number two.
You know, Vic does a good job with his scheme
down there. They're technically sound. You know, when they do
play man, they play tight, and then when they play zone,
they have a very good understanding of how to match
things and push coverage. And you know that'll be a
big part of this game, is the red zone on
(27:56):
both sides of the ball. They're pretty productive at it
on offense as well.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yeah, I mean, let's talk about the offensive leak because
last week the quarterback had a perfect rating. They were
able to get Smith going, Brown made big plays. You
mentioned the red zone. They're fourteen touchdowns and seventeen trips
goal to goal thirteen touchdowns and fourteen trips. In fact,
their only stop was the Cordell flot pick in that
Thursday night game. What makes them so difficult to deal with,
(28:24):
especially when they get inside the twenty, Well, they.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Have a good offensive line and good backs. They have
a quarterback that I think plays at a high level,
can beat you both ways, and then they have you know,
perimeter guys that are tough matchups. So they execute it well.
You know, they've been very productive with it. They got
a good scheme and we're gonna have to do a
(28:49):
good job down there.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
You know, for the fans listening, they don't necessarily understand
and sometimes they don't believe it, like the twenty four
hour rule. When you suffer a disappointment like you guys
had last week, fans kind of carry it throughout the
course of the week and they don't realize like that
everybody really once Wednesday comes, you're just like locked into
(29:13):
the next week's preparation. Have you noticed that the focus
has been pretty good all things considered what happened last week.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
You got to be consistent with your with your approach, coaching, playing,
and whether you have a big win or you have
a tough loss or you have a bad loss, you
have to move on to the next week. And you know,
you only have a certain amount of days to get
ready for a team, whether it's your film preparation, your practices,
your extra meetings, how you take care of your body,
(29:41):
and all that matters leading up to the next week.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Obviously, Philadelphia is the defending Super Bowl champions and we
all know what it's like when you go down to
Philadelphia in the hostile environment. Jackson Dart, Yeah, last week,
that's a hostile environment. That's a super loud place. New
Orleans is a super loud place. Does the fact that
(30:06):
he played in the SEC help him prepare a little
bit more for these adverse situations than maybe a quarterback
that didn't come from that conference and from a program
that plays in a conference like that.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
Yeah, I'd say there's some truth to that. You know,
I was down in the SEC for a year, and
you know, it's it's loud. It's Philly's going to be loud.
It's like you said, Denver was loud. And I mean
the biggest thing is being able to communicate and you know,
operate at a high level when the surrounding conditions, the noise,
(30:45):
you know, can affect the communication. And you know he's
done it, you know, at a high level. I'd say
in college had a lot of loud places, you know,
certainly ones that I've been down to and you can't
hear yourself. And you know, last week that like that,
and this week we'll be like that as well.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Let's talk a little about the running game. Obviously, Scataboo
has given the team a lot of energy. I've been
maintaining that. You know, if you can get Tyrone Tracy
going along with the veteran steady hand, that singletary brings
to the table. You know, it really helps you guys
maybe open up a little bit even more offensively about
(31:24):
what you could be and how good you can be.
How important was it to get him, you know, going
a little bit last week to create those combinations that
you can use.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
Yeah, I think anytime you get the ball in any
one of our skilled players hands, it's important. You know,
the run game is important. It takes things off the quarterback.
But you know it's also run game has also been
better because of the quarterback, So it's a combination of things.
You know, it was good to see Tracy, you know
hit that play was into blitz zero. You know it
(31:57):
was blocked very well and he did a good job
with his track and you know wasn't touched, So you
know it's important for for him to play well. Motor
Scatt Jackson offensive line. You know, the run gay helps
everybody coach.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Finally, you know, playing a team twice in three weeks,
are there are there a lot of wrinkles that either
side can put in or is it kind of like, okay,
we have a general idea of what they want to do,
they have a general idea what we what we do well.
There'll be some wrinkles in here, but at the end
of the day, like we know them, they know us.
(32:34):
It's who makes the block or who makes the catch,
or who makes the tackle, who makes the right read
at the right time. That's really going to be what
decides this game.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Yeah, I think you said it. You said it best
right there. It's going to come down to fundamental execution.
You can only do so many things. You're kind of
in the you know, mid part of the season if
you will, and you know, you watch a lot of
film of all the games they've played. They do the
same to us, and ultimately it's going to come down to,
(33:04):
you know, making a contested catch or breaking up a
contested throw, or getting off a block to make a tackle,
or making the right read, or turning the ball over
on defense, taking care of it on offense, doing a
good job in the kicking game. I mean, those are
the things. Playing well in the red zone, playing good
on third down, you know, that's what's going to matter
(33:25):
the most.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Coach, We appreciate a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Thanks Pop, great stuff from Daves. We also thank John Runyon,
Daniel Bellinger, and Zach Berman for joining us on this
Friday preview edition of The Giants Total Podcast, brought to
you by Citizens, the official Bank of the Giants. For
everyone that joined us, we thank them. I am John Schmelke.
It's the Giants and Eagles folks. Just reminder, Big Book.
Kick Off five of the special Saturday edition comes away
seven am on WFA with Mark Lusis and I and
(33:49):
then of course you have our pregame show on WFAN
Tiki Barber and I get you ready for the game
at eleven am on Sunday morning. Thanks for being with us.
We'll see you next time on The Giants Total Podcast.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
Yest
It's time to get inside the Giants Hut.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Let's go, Giants Out the Giants bull give me some job.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's roll.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought
to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants
from the Hackensackerpreney Health podcast Studio. Keep getting Better. I
am John Schmelk. Thank you so much for being with
us today. Everybody, we have our normal Friday interview slash
preview podcast. I'm going to talk to Giants tight end
Daniel Bellinger. Also going to talk to Giants offensive lineman
John Runyon Jr. We're going to have Bob Poppa with
(00:31):
the head coach of the New York Football Giants, Brian Dable,
and Zach Berman, who covers the Eagles for the Athletic,
will join us to preview Philadelphia. All right, let's start
off with my long interview with Giants tight end Daniel Bellinger.
Very happy this week to be joined by Giants tight
end Daniel Bellinger. Belly, what's up man?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Thanks for having me man, Happy to be with you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Let's start here. Four catches idiot yards to you. Last
week career high touchdown. What went well for you last
week that allows you to put up that type of production.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah, I mean, you know with guys going down, myself,
THEO and tight end group as a whole lot to
step up make some plays, and I felt like we
did that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You guys have leaned into tight end stuff the last
three weeks. Over forty twelve personnel last three games, the
six most in the NFL. How has these personnel changes
you think to help the offense? And how have you
seen it maybe impact how defenses are approaching you with
having two tight ends on the field.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Well, yeah, I mean it gives our offense a lot
of versatility, allows us to do a lot of different
things in the run game and the pass game. It
helps having tight ends that can do both, and it
just keeps the defense on their toes. You know, they
have to either put in nickel defense or base defense
to kind of switch things up, and they're not sure
what we're going to do, and that gives our offense
and edge.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You think two tight ends, you generally think under center stuff.
But you guys still been doing largely a lot of
shotgun with the two tight ends. Is there a difference
for you guys with two tight ends, whether it's shotgun
or on their center.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Oh, not too much.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
You know helps Jackson, you know, get his keys and
read the defense a little bit better in the shotgun,
but it doesn't change too much for.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
The tight ends.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
How have you seen teams? Have you seen them lean
into more base? Have you seen them either maybe put
more guys at the line of scrimmage? Have you seen
them just how they're approaching you using two tight ends one?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, typically you know they'll add guys in the box
and go more base defense. But you know when they
do that, you know, catch Calf and Jackson and they
make they have to call us and make the play
and adjust the defense.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Now, we've also seen Camp Scattaboo kind of emerge over
the past few weeks, and it's more of a power
style running game. I would say, does that just lean
into the impact of twelve personnel even more, having a
guy that's always going to fall forward, get those tough
between the tackle yards.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
You know Scat's a special guy and he's gonna run
through somebody's face no matter what.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So defense has to count for that.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
And you know when you have a guy like Scott
that can do that, you know, opens it up for
the tight ends as well.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You say he's a special guy. What look, I think
fans have their impression of him. I see what I see.
But as a teammate in the huddle that plays with him,
what makes him a special guy?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
One word, it'd have to be energy. The guy just
brings so much energy to the huddle, to the offense,
and just on the field, and he plays with his
hair on fire, and that, you know, makes us want
to play just as much as just as much hair
on fire as him, and you know, it's a lot
of fun to have him out there.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
All right, Take me behind the scenes a little bit,
because in the offseason and even last year, you guys
are a very heavy three wide receiver, eleven personnel team,
that's what you practiced a lot of in the summer.
Now you have twelve personal packages and all that stuff.
Did you have to transform some of those eleven personnel
plays into two tight end plays or did you have
to actually install new stuff given how much you lead
(03:22):
me into the double tight end stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, I mean somewhat of both. You know, with the
two tight end stuff, we got to implement new things.
And kind of different nuances to the offense, but overall,
you know, it's a similar offense. We're just kind of
finding different ways to use the tight end instead of
receivers on certain routes. But at the same time, you know,
me and THEO can run some of these receiver routes,
so keeping it consistent and helping Jackson with it as
much as possible.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And we've seen a lot of i'll call it fullback
stuff out of shotgun. We're cams and pistol and either
you were THEO or next to the quarterback kind of
in a stagger at fullback type of role. How is
that different for you and what do you like about
having that as part of your job now?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, I mean I feel comfortable with it. I've been
doing it for a few years, so definitely definitely the comfortable,
comfortable spot for myself and THEO. But it just again
brings versatility to our offense, allows us to do different
things out of the backfield. You know, allows us to
be the fullback role, traditional role leading up through the
A gap, and it also allows us to kind of
slip past the linebackers and so again just kind of
giving the defense different looks and kind of different things
(04:21):
to keep them on their toes.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I was gonna ask you one route that I know
that or one play that I've seen you guys run
a lock going back even the last year, maybe the
year before, where your line up as a full back,
you play action, you was the lead blocker. Then guys
are worried about the run and you release and it's
not even like dump off. You're running like deep flag
routes and stuff like that. Does that type of stuff
and is that kind of an example of the type
of matchup advantages these this type of style can give
(04:44):
a team.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
You know, I think the coach you do a good
job of trying to find these different mismatches, and you know,
it's tough. It's tough for a linebacker when you know
you have two three times where we're leading up as
a fullback, hitting them in the mouth, and then two
plays later it's slipping the right pass and for a
wheel route or something like that. So you know, just
keeping them guessing helps us a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Talk about how well the offensive line has played over
the last three four weeks since Andrew's come back. I
talked to John Running about this the other day, and
I asked him if he thought it was like maybe
the best three game Stretcher's seen from the group. And
he didn't say no. He didn't say yes, but he
didn't say no. What have you seen from this offensive
line group since Andrew's come back? And just frankly, how
well they're playing? Is I feel like it's flowing on
the radar a little bit, to be honest with you, And.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
You know some of this comes from from the younger
guys too, but just that energy and you know, the
old lines just they're rising to the level of it,
and you know they're playing gritty, they're playing tough, and
you know they're they're a veteran group that we can
lean on.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Do you find that you guys are being asked to
chip a little bit less now that you have Andrew
Thomas a left tackle.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Dred percent him and him Andrew Maine.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know they's playing great.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah, they're both playing. They're doing great jobs on the edges.
So again it allows us to kind of open up
more and not how to do so much chip help?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
How does that impact you if you have to chip
or not chip and you're trying to get into a route.
Does that change the type of routes you can even run?
How does that impact you?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Yeah, I mean it changes our timing a lot. You know,
when you chip, you got to make sure you get
the d on the right angle to help the tackle
because you don't want to, you know, push him up
the field or you don't want to jam inside and
kind of help them with their games. So definitely definitely
changes up our timing on different things in terms of
route running and stuff like that. And so it allows
us to kind of get out and get into the
route faster instead of having a jam and then get
(06:17):
into the route.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I feel like this hasn't impacted you guys at all
this year, but I've seen with other teams if there's
not good continuity between tight end and the offensive tackle,
sometimes the chip actually can be detrimental to the tackle
if you guys are not on the same page. So
how often do you guys work on that? And how
do you do you communicate pre snap how you're gonna chip?
How does that work?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Oh? Yeah, I mean one hundred percent. Because you know a
lot of these guys now and nowadays, they get off
so quick on the ball, especially when you're on the road,
you can't hear the snap count and everything, and so
we work on it pretty consistently, just kind of getting
different angles, making sure we get the right angle to
help the tackle, and making sure the tackle knows like, hey,
we'll give We'll give him my heads up, usually in
the huddle or as we're going to the line, like hey,
(06:55):
you're gonna get a chip here. That way he knows
he can get a different PAS set when he has
a chip, in a different pass it when he doesn't
have a chip.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Asked you about Scataboo. I gotta ask you about Dart.
Talk about in the locker room. You know, rookie, he's
you know, he's rocking the chain. He's got some swag
to him. Give me like the locker room, Like what
makes Jackson Dart the guy?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, I mean, one word for him is just moxie.
You know, he's got that moxie to kind of in
that swager going in the locker room and he he
you know, you wouldn't think he's a rookie, you know
what I mean, the way he kind of leads us,
the way he kind of understands the offense, can read
a defense and put the ball where it needs to go.
He's definitely ahead of his years and he's an exciting player.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I think from the outside everyone kind of waits the
rookie quarterback he's going to have that one game where
everything is just to see stuff he hasn't seen before
and things that just fall apart. I mean, there hasn't
even been like a quarter like that. I don't think,
why do you think he's been able to be so
able to adjust to all the new things that these
he's played Some of the best coordinators in the league too,
(07:51):
have thrown at him over the past four weeks.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I mean it's a testament to him. You know, he's
done the film study. You know, obviously it's a testament
to Russ and Jamis in the quarterback room to help
him get ready, but you know, he does a lot
of stuff on his own, a lot of studying, watching
the film, and then at the same time we're there
for him to lean on in case he needs us,
whether it's a call on offense or if it's something
that he sees.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
He does a good job.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Of coming to us on the sideline and throughout the
week kind of telling us what he sees on the
defense and what he wants from us, and then he
does a great job of executing it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And we've even seeing some checks too pre snap now
more and more on the two deep plays there was
I don't know what the calls are, what's going on,
but he's you know, tapping his head between before the
two big plays. To you, he made a check on
the on the Tracy run that winning for a touchdown.
Do you see that confidence in him translating what he's
seeing pre snap to then making the adjustments to get
(08:40):
you guys in the right position to settee?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I mean for him to be able to read a
defense like that, especially as a rookie, is a hard
thing to do.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
But he's done a great job of that.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And give credit to the coaches as well in Kafka
helping him kind of understand that and making those checks
in those reads. But you know he's in a great
job of executing and reading it.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
All right, let's get to the Eagles very quick. We
don't have to go through the whole team you guys
played with the recent all right, So what's the challenge
first and foremost of having to play a team like that?
Twice in three weeks that you're already very familiar with
to be in with, right.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I mean, one, they're a good team. They're very good teams,
so we got to be ready for them. But like
you said, we just played them. So we got to
find different ways to kind of dress up what we
did two weeks ago and get ready for it again
and making sure that they don't have an idea of
what we're gonna do, and make sure we switch it up,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You can't switch up too much though, either, right, you can't.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Switch it up too much, but different different kind of
motions and shifts to kind of get them guessing and
kind of get ready for that.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Can you look at stuff that you showed them in
the last game and then develop counters. Okay, well, this
play is gonna look the same. It's gonna look like this,
but oh but now we're gonna run play action off
at something like that.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
It's it's like a chess game because it's like, obviously
we want to run what we ran that worked, but
at the same time they're looking at the same places
like Okay, how can we stop this? And so we
got to have a counter to that. And then again,
if they show us something completely different, we gotta have
a reaction out as well.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Two more things on the defense, they're gonna have Jalen
quarterback in there and Quinny and Mitchell, who missed a
lot of that game two weeks ago it was gonna
be playing. What kind of impact does the presence of
those two players have on their defense and how they're
gonna approach you and how you're going to approach them.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, two great players.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
You know, we're fully aware of how good they are,
and so we definitely have a good game plan going
in against them. We just got to be aware and
understand that. Listen, if they make a play, we have
to make adjustments to it, and we have to understand
what they're going to try to do and make sure
we press the gas to make sure that they're on
their toes and not sitting back ready to fight.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Finally, you kind of mentioned this when I talked about
the twelve personnel stuff in general, but Nikobe Dean it
was his first game back, the first time you guys
played the Eagle, So we not kind of all the
way back now we is, and they have him John Campbell,
the rookie, he was very good and Zach Bond, who
was an All Pro linebacker. Do you think you might
see some more base defense from them this week? Given
all three of those guys are healthy and quite frankly,
how will you guys ran the ball them a couple
(10:41):
weeks ago, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
You know, obviously towards the end of that game, we
did a good job executing and running the ball. So
I think they're going to be ready for that. We
just got to be ready to counter off it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Belly, best luck, appreciate the time.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Houddle up, get in here.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the
middle with at the score? Great? How do we make
that happen?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Bud?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Citizens does makes sense of your money with Citizens Official
Bank of Eli Manning.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Great stuff from Belly. Just a reminder enter for your
chance to watch a Giant's road game in MetLife Stadium
with a special appearance by Eli Manning courtesy of Citizens,
the Official Bank of Eli Manning and the New York Giants.
For details and to enter, visit away Game watchparty dot
com by November first. All right, now, let's turn our
attention to the Giants opponent. This week, the Giants take
(11:27):
on the Eagles for the second time in three weeks.
I talked to Zach Berman from The Athletic about everything
that's new about the Eagles, what's different and what's the same,
and who might be on the field that wasn't the
last time these two teams played, all right, and now
we turn our attention to the Giants' opponent. We welcome in.
See your NFL rider for the Athletic also covers the Eagles.
He is Zach Berman and former New York Giant beat rider. Zach,
(11:48):
what's going on, man? How are you?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I am doing great. Always good to speak with you.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Absolutely, man, good to talk to you too. So this
these two teams played two weeks ago. What are the
Eagles saying about the dynamic of playing it so close,
especially when you have a rookie quarterback you're now seeing
for the second time in three weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, it certainly abnormal.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Interestingly, it's something that happened with Eagles and Giants two
years ago. Today to end the season, they played two
of the last three games. And I think that, I mean,
certainly the Giants have Eagles attention with the way the
Giants beat the Eagles two weeks ago, and I think that,
more than anything else is what jumps out here. Not
as much the timing of it, but if there was
five weeks in between games.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
The fact that the Giants played.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Eagles the way they did has Eagles on high alert
this week and I think is a real big part
of the Eagles mindset going into this game.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, So what's been the reaction to Dart, Jackson Dart,
what he's done, what he did to the Eagles a
couple of weeks ago, putting up those five touchdowns or
helping the Giants put up five touchdowns, and maybe what
kind of adjustments we might see trying to guard against
what he does well this week.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, a lot of respect for Jackson Dart in the
building and it really I mean, you hear from Vic
Fangio and and frankly, Vic Fangio has said it before
the Eagles Giants game, then the and then the Eagles
saw it up close in that game, and you've you've
heard it from uh Jalen hurts On on throughout the team.
And I think it's the quarterback run game that is
really getting their attention and should because the Eagles have
(13:18):
frankly struggled against the quarterback run game.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
This year, and you saw that with the way Jackson
Dart ran against the Eagles. Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And then the other thing too, is is the Giants
frankly were the more physical team in that game, and
that's not something you typically say against the Eagles, just
with the way the Eagles are built on the lines
of scrimmage and kind of the competitive toughness that they
have with a lot of the players there, the way
the Giants out physicaled them, to use that term, was abnormal,
(13:47):
And so I think that from a pride perspective, that's
that that's a big point of emphasis this week.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah. I got to imagine too, the Eagles will be
looking forward to having two of their best defensive players,
one of which you didn't play it all Agains the Giants
two weeks ago, another one that left in the first quarter,
Jill and Carter and and Quinea and Mitchell. What kind
of impact is gonna having those two guys back on
the field gonna make And how does that change everything
the Eagles do defensively having those two guys on the
field for the game.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeahjalen Carter in particular, he's he's the best player on
that defense. And uh, just when you talk about the
line of scrimmage, what what he brings, the presence he brings,
the the attention that he commands.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And that you start there.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Even when he's he's not getting to the quarterback or
he's not making a tackle.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I mean he has you know, four arms on him
most plays.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
But then when he's able to penetrate there, you you
see the impact that he makes. Eagles had to pick
six last week against the Vikings. If you're just watching
on TV, you seex return the interception. If you're watching
the game though, you see what was all caused by
by by Jalen Carter having that hit so and and
and the way he got to the quarterback on on
(14:56):
the play.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So Jalen Carter so disruptive.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Quinnon Mitchell is their top cornerback, no doubt about it,
and they missed him when he was gone. Now I
mean that I don't think the Giants wide receivers are
you know, like like the top combination in the league
if you will, but you you certainly want to have
your best cornerback on the field.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, And it's I think even though before he got
hurt in that first game, Zach. When these two teams
played a couple of weeks ago, the Giants weren't even
throwing his way. They basically said, all right, where's Kile
Ringo lined up? All right, that's what we're gonna throw
the football. And I think that's a plan. A lot
of the teams that have faced the Eagles have had
this year target Ringo, targeted Dorry Jackson. Where have the
Eagles gotten to with their second cornerback spot? And then
(15:36):
how do you expect them to handle that this week
against the Giants?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, you're spot on there, because it's been a weakness
for lack of a better term, or or has has
has underperformed relative expectations. A Dori Jacksons as a concussion
right now, he's in the protocol, didn't practice yesterday, so
you know, I don't know if he's if he's if
he's gonna be out there to play his his former
team on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So it could be he Ringo again.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Now, when we talk about the Eagles second cornerback spot,
the interesting thing is it's not the second best cornerback
on the Eagles, right like Cooper the Jean is one of.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
The best players on the Eagles. Eagles choose to keep
him in the slot.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I'm always curious to see if, if if they change
Cooper to Jean's usage and put someone else in the slot,
just because you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Know, Cooper's so good wherever he plays.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But if they stick the form, you'll see Keeley Ringo
out there opposite Quinyon Mitchell. Eagles could also play more
base defense, which is something that they can consider doing
now that in Ni Kobe Dean's back from injury.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And by the way the Giants have leaned, and that's
actually a good, good, good direction to go here. The
Giants have really leaned into twelve personnel two tight ends
over the past couple of weeks. Do you think we
might see more of that twelve personnel if the Giants
do roll out sixty seventy percent twelve personnel like we've
seen the last couple of weeks, where then you would
have Cooper Dejan shift outside in those more traditional base packages.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You saw that against the Vikings last week, and I
think it's actually a way that the Eagles like to play,
especially compared to last year.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
They you know, last year they wanted to be in Nickel.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You want to have Cooper the gene on the field
this year when you just look at the combination of
players that they have, and especially the strength that they
have at linebacker, and then some different things. If Nikobe
Dean's on the field and you can put your Jah
hot Camp on the edge and base, there's different ways
around it. So I do think the Eagles will play
(17:29):
more bass so long as the Giants for in twelve personnel.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
All right, I want to jump to the offensive side
of the ball here now, Zach. I watched the Eagles
offense on the All twenty two last week against the Vikings.
Tell me if my impression is right or wrong. The
offense looked largely the same, except they happened to hit
some really big plays that got the ball in the
end zone. Was that the main difference to you? Or
were there more fundamental things that you think were different
(17:52):
or better for the Eagles offense when they kind of
blew up against the Vikings last week.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, the end result was was different, But fundamentally or structurally, uh,
they they were under center more than they've been at
any point this season, and I think that opened things up,
especially when you look at you know, the the big
touchdown to Devonte Smith that came with the under center
play action and that was, you know, really the second
time they ran under center play action all season. It's
(18:19):
not something you typically see. And so uh they were
they were under center more. I think that that forced
the defense to uh to play them differently and then
Eagles were able to connect the two. You know, their
their best players downfield, and so you know, Jalen Hurts
had a perfect passer rating when the best.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Games he's played.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We know a J Brown DeVante Smith might be the
best you know, a wide receiver combination in the league.
Eagles haven't been able to get them going, and they
were able to get them going there and and it's
it's still the.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Running game is lagging behind.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But when they were under center, with the respect that
the running game gets, uh and I think you can
do some things out of play action there that really
open things up downfield.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
How do they get this running game going? It doesn't
look like Cam Jurgens is gonna play. You can correct
me if you have different information on that, but I
think to me, everything that has defined the Eagles struggles
this year, especially with the run game but even some
in the past game towards the pass pro has just
been the offensive line has not played to the same level. Zach,
Why do you think that is and do you think
that's frankly gonna change at some point.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, it's a great question. I think it's something they're
trying to figure out in.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
The building here, and I agree the offensive line hasn't
played to the level it's played in the past. I
do think though a lot of it's a numbers game.
Is you know, defenses are so are so focused in
on stopping the run against the Eagles this year, and
you know, the passing game hasn't necessarily taken advantage of
it the way they they needed to until last week,
(19:48):
of course, but the Eagles bread and butter always always
needs to be the running game when you have that
offensive line and you have Saquon Barkley. Now you mentioned
Cam Jurgens. Yeah, I mean Cam Jurgens wasn't at practice
on Wednesday. The Eagles practice in a few minutes here.
We'll see if he's out there today and then what
Eagles do if he's not out there, Because it wouldn't
surprise me if Landon Dickerson, who was their left guard.
(20:11):
You know, he actually didn't play in that first game
against the Giants, but is their Pro Bowl left guard.
They can slide him over to center. I think he's
a better center than Brett Toath, who replaced Cam Jurgens
last week. There's a few different combinations that they might
need to look at there, but the reality is it
starts up front and then you know Saquon is and
I don't need to tell you or your listeners, reviewers.
(20:31):
I mean, he's one of the best players in the league.
He hasn't been able to get those home run runs
this year, and that's that's kind of what's missing.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And so when you look at the yards per carry,
I think.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's really those explosive gains that change everything, and he
hasn't been able to get those off this year.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, seventeen rushes of twenty more yards last year. Doesn't
have one yet this year, which is just amazing when
you think about all right, final question, an you got
to get the practice zac anything that we missed that
I did not to ask you about that has been
kind of focused of the media down there. The questions
you guys are asking the coaches and players or that
the fans have kind of really attached themselves to as
they try to kind of and it's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
What's wrong with the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Was they're five and two and they're in first place,
but trying to get them play into their peak level.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean, I think as far as improving them,
it's it's it's getting the offense going. But as far
as a big story out of Philly this week, and
it's it is relevant to to to this game, is
you know, Brandon Graham comes out of retirement rejoins the Eagles,
and I mean from a like leadership perspective, that's a
big deal. But but from a football perspective, Eagles are
thin on the edge rusher spot. Azizo Jilari, the former Giant,
(21:39):
I don't think he's gonna play this with this this week.
So the Eagles have three healthy edge rushers, not including
Brandon Graham. So Brandon Graham, who's who's been golfing and
been on his couch, have been in you know, in
the media for the past you know, seven weeks, he
could very well.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Be active for this game.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Uh, it wouldn't surprise me given the fact that now
that you know the Eagles aren't. Aren't saying that that's
the case, and they could call someone up from the
practice squad. But if they don't activate Graham, they only
have three healthy edge rushers.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't think that's the way they want to go
into a game.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Tell the folks, I think you'll find all your great words, Zach.
This is awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
The athletic you know, I cover the team there, so
hope you subscribe. And I have a new book out
now called Leap Year, which takes fans behind the scenes
of legal Super Bowl season.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
That should be awesome. Z that good stuff, man. I'll
SIMI regards down to Philadelphia for you and hope you
catch up soon.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Buddy, look forward to it.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
If you want to know how to manage two minutes
of crunch time football, I'm your man.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan,
you should.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Talk to Citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'd like to learn about Annliar routine.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yes, I knew I could help make sense of your
money with Citizens. Great stuff from Zach there, Folks, don't
forget the Giants Foundational host Day five k racing and
kids are represented by Quest this Sunday, October twenty sixth,
nine am met Life Stadium, and their proceeds will benefit
the Giants Foundation. It's the cool event, guys. You can run,
you finish the race in the stadium so you can
check on Bett Live Stadium get inside of it as well.
All participants who're CV commemorative T shirt and after the
(23:05):
race stayed for a post race festival with appearances by
Giants legends and a live DJ. Register now with Giants
dot Com slash five k. The Giants Foundation is a
five to one C three nonprofit corporation. Thanks to Zach
awesome stuff from him. Now, let's talk to Giants offensive
lineman John Runyon Junior about the Giants offensive line play
(23:25):
and whether or not this last three game stretches one
of the best stretches he thinks this Giants offensive line
has had since he's been here.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
I think slowly, we've been getting better and better each
week and it's really starting to, you know, come to
you know, this culmination. I feel like we've been playing
really well, really consistent, and we're still getting better and
I still think we have so much more space to
continue to grow and is really encouraging, and that's what.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
We kind of wanted to going into the season.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
We were really better in offensive line, and it's about
time restart trying to take over games.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And I know it's not just Andrew coming back and
it clicks into Warks. I think it kind of just coincided.
But what is it? A bit about his return and
becoming looking more like himself that's gonna helped the whole
group played together as a unit.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, I have him coming back.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
He's he's the leader of offense, of offensive line, especially
up front, and getting him back there, you know that
the the blind side is going to be completely locked down. Uh,
you don't really have to worry about that, so we
can afford help on certain plays elsewhere. And I have
to worry about now that Andrew's gonna get his job done.
And you know he helps everybody out in the run game,
man past game and getting everything communicated as well. So
(24:31):
he's just been a you know, a great great having
him back.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Tyler Tracy is a good runner, like Skataboo is a
different style runner. Right, He's always falling forward, He's getting
an extra couple of yards in every play. How does
it change for you guys blocking from o of a
downholl runner like him, who's more of a power guy.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Yeah, you know, you just gotta kind of get in
front of guys and uh cover him up. And the
plays never over because, like you said, he's gonna hit somebody,
he's gonna fall forward. So when you're black ruth himing there,
you got to keep the feet running, watch out for
your elbows because he will run into them as well.
And you give him a little space and hit it
(25:06):
downhill for sure, So he's gonna hit the first hole
that he sees. And you know it's a good thing.
We're always getting your positive yards with him.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And then finally, when you have a guy like Jackson
who sometimes gets the ball all quick but other times
will feel pressure kind of slide in the pocket, the
play's never dead. How does that affect how you guys
kind of go about your business and pass pro.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah, we kinda just talked about we have to get
the black to infinity. You never know, you never know
what's gonna, you know, happen when he's got the ball
back there. Like you said, he plays on time a lot.
But you know, another really good part about his games
is either way he extends it. He's really slippery out
of the pocket. So you know when you feel the
(25:46):
d lineman stop and then n accelerat again, you know
he's back there dancing. So you know, it's a it's
kind of a mindset, does offensive lineman you're blocking verse
six seven, maybe eight seconds, He's moving around the field
and you just got to stay alive. I've been trying
to try to help them out, let them push them
down the field because as you see, you know that's
a lot where the big plays coming to a cow
when he's stepping out of the pocket and throwing it
(26:08):
down the field.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
John appreciate him.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
A thank you, jer thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Good stuff from John Ronyan Junior. Don't forget to interfer
your chance to watch the Giants road game met Life
Stadium with a special appearance by Eli Manning courtesy of Citizens,
the official make of Eli Manning and the New York Giants.
For details and to enter, visit Away Game Watchparty dot
com by November first. All right, as we do every week,
the voice of the Giants, Bob Papa, talk to the
head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
It's always we're joined by the head coach of the
New York Giants, Brian Dable. Giants take on the Philadelphia
Eagles and coach how difficult is it when you're playing
a team this close to when you last played them
or is it difficult?
Speaker 8 (26:45):
No, it's not difficult in terms of your preparations. I
mean it was a different week obviously, the first game
we played them. Short week, you don't have as many
things in you know, you spend a lot of time
in a short amount of time to get a lot
of stuff. You know, they have one game, You've already
looked at all the other games, They've looked at all
your other games. You know, you played one game in between,
(27:07):
and it's kind of business as usual.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
One of the things in their win last week that
was impressive was the fact that they held Minnesota to
one for six in the red zone, just when you
think about trying to attack them and deal with what
they have defense, and they have carter back in this
game that they didn't have in the game that you
played against them. What made them so good last week
(27:33):
in their red zone defense?
Speaker 8 (27:36):
Well, it goes down to number one players and number two.
You know, Vic does a good job with his scheme
down there. They're technically sound. You know, when they do
play man, they play tight, and then when they play zone,
they have a very good understanding of how to match
things and push coverage. And you know that'll be a
big part of this game, is the red zone on
(27:56):
both sides of the ball. They're pretty productive at it
on offense as well.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yeah, I mean, let's talk about the offensive leak because
last week the quarterback had a perfect rating. They were
able to get Smith going, Brown made big plays. You
mentioned the red zone. They're fourteen touchdowns and seventeen trips
goal to goal thirteen touchdowns and fourteen trips. In fact,
their only stop was the Cordell flot pick in that
Thursday night game. What makes them so difficult to deal with,
(28:24):
especially when they get inside the twenty, Well, they.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Have a good offensive line and good backs. They have
a quarterback that I think plays at a high level,
can beat you both ways, and then they have you know,
perimeter guys that are tough matchups. So they execute it well.
You know, they've been very productive with it. They got
a good scheme and we're gonna have to do a
(28:49):
good job down there.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
You know, for the fans listening, they don't necessarily understand
and sometimes they don't believe it, like the twenty four
hour rule. When you suffer a disappointment like you guys
had last week, fans kind of carry it throughout the
course of the week and they don't realize like that
everybody really once Wednesday comes, you're just like locked into
(29:13):
the next week's preparation. Have you noticed that the focus
has been pretty good all things considered what happened last week.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
You got to be consistent with your with your approach, coaching, playing,
and whether you have a big win or you have
a tough loss or you have a bad loss, you
have to move on to the next week. And you know,
you only have a certain amount of days to get
ready for a team, whether it's your film preparation, your practices,
your extra meetings, how you take care of your body,
(29:41):
and all that matters leading up to the next week.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Obviously, Philadelphia is the defending Super Bowl champions and we
all know what it's like when you go down to
Philadelphia in the hostile environment. Jackson Dart, Yeah, last week,
that's a hostile environment. That's a super loud place. New
Orleans is a super loud place. Does the fact that
(30:06):
he played in the SEC help him prepare a little
bit more for these adverse situations than maybe a quarterback
that didn't come from that conference and from a program
that plays in a conference like that.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
Yeah, I'd say there's some truth to that. You know,
I was down in the SEC for a year, and
you know, it's it's loud. It's Philly's going to be loud.
It's like you said, Denver was loud. And I mean
the biggest thing is being able to communicate and you know,
operate at a high level when the surrounding conditions, the noise,
(30:45):
you know, can affect the communication. And you know he's
done it, you know, at a high level. I'd say
in college had a lot of loud places, you know,
certainly ones that I've been down to and you can't
hear yourself. And you know, last week that like that,
and this week we'll be like that as well.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Let's talk a little about the running game. Obviously, Scataboo
has given the team a lot of energy. I've been
maintaining that. You know, if you can get Tyrone Tracy
going along with the veteran steady hand, that singletary brings
to the table. You know, it really helps you guys
maybe open up a little bit even more offensively about
(31:24):
what you could be and how good you can be.
How important was it to get him, you know, going
a little bit last week to create those combinations that
you can use.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
Yeah, I think anytime you get the ball in any
one of our skilled players hands, it's important. You know,
the run game is important. It takes things off the quarterback.
But you know it's also run game has also been
better because of the quarterback, So it's a combination of things.
You know, it was good to see Tracy, you know
hit that play was into blitz zero. You know it
(31:57):
was blocked very well and he did a good job
with his track and you know wasn't touched, So you
know it's important for for him to play well. Motor
Scatt Jackson offensive line. You know, the run gay helps
everybody coach.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Finally, you know, playing a team twice in three weeks,
are there are there a lot of wrinkles that either
side can put in or is it kind of like, okay,
we have a general idea of what they want to do,
they have a general idea what we what we do well.
There'll be some wrinkles in here, but at the end
of the day, like we know them, they know us.
(32:34):
It's who makes the block or who makes the catch,
or who makes the tackle, who makes the right read
at the right time. That's really going to be what
decides this game.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Yeah, I think you said it. You said it best
right there. It's going to come down to fundamental execution.
You can only do so many things. You're kind of
in the you know, mid part of the season if
you will, and you know, you watch a lot of
film of all the games they've played. They do the
same to us, and ultimately it's going to come down to,
(33:04):
you know, making a contested catch or breaking up a
contested throw, or getting off a block to make a tackle,
or making the right read, or turning the ball over
on defense, taking care of it on offense, doing a
good job in the kicking game. I mean, those are
the things. Playing well in the red zone, playing good
on third down, you know, that's what's going to matter
(33:25):
the most.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Coach, We appreciate a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Thanks Pop, great stuff from Daves. We also thank John Runyon,
Daniel Bellinger, and Zach Berman for joining us on this
Friday preview edition of The Giants Total Podcast, brought to
you by Citizens, the official Bank of the Giants. For
everyone that joined us, we thank them. I am John Schmelke.
It's the Giants and Eagles folks. Just reminder, Big Book.
Kick Off five of the special Saturday edition comes away
seven am on WFA with Mark Lusis and I and
(33:49):
then of course you have our pregame show on WFAN
Tiki Barber and I get you ready for the game
at eleven am on Sunday morning. Thanks for being with us.
We'll see you next time on The Giants Total Podcast.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
Yest
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!