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March 20, 2025 • 13 mins

On this edition of the Giants Huddle Podcast, John Schmeelk talks to the Giants' free agents on the offensive line, James Hudson III and Stone Forsythe.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time to get inside the Giants huts. Let's go.
Let's go Giants. The Giants Bubbling, give me some jobs.
Part of the Giants podcast network. Let's roll all right,
and now we welcome in James Hudson, one of the
newest members of the New York Football Giants offensive linemen,
coming over from the Cleveland Browns. James, welcome aboard, man.
How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm great man, excited to be here, extremely blessed and
grateful for the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
So why did you choose the Giants?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Uh? Because, man, I like, what what's to come here?
We're gonna build some some special We're gonna win some games,
and you know, just do what we gotta do to
get the job done.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Now, you played against the Giants this past year. You
played a little more than a dozen snaps, you got
hurt throwing the game. What was kind of your takeaway
from playing against this Giants team in terms of the
culture of the team and the way they play.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
That defensive front is real. That was the That was
the first thing. I mean, obviously we noticed that watching
film before the game, but going out there in filling
the speed, you know that the power of the guys
in the middle, the middle, and you know, just just
going against you guys man, that that front is definitely real.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
All right. So you have seventeen starts forty nine games.
You've played more right tackle than left tackle, at least
in terms of in game snaps. Right, what's your comfort
level of both spots? You consider yourself more right and
more left? How do you view yourself in terms of
position Flax.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I see myself on either side. I feel comfortable equally
at both spots. Getting that experience at left tackle last
season definitely helped me and made me feel confident in
my abilities at left tackle. So I definitely feel like
I could play both.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, because Jeddrick Goules got hurt and you had to
step in the left tackle. Right, So, now, how many
snaps had you taken in college and practice at left
tackle before you had to step into those game situations
at that spot?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, in college. In college, I played the whole season
I left tackle, and then when I got to the NFL,
my first game that I uh that I got in
during the regular season was against the Minnesota Vikings. I
believe it was like Week four or maybe Week three,
and I finished the game at left tackle. So left

(02:13):
tackle is it's not something that's foreign to me, but
it's it's definitely something that you know, I've grown to.
You know, like over time, did.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
You did you talk to anybody around the league that
you know that maybe has connections here about what it's
like here and why this would be a good fit
for you.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I didn't really speak to anybody about about that, but
I just know that it's a good fit for me. Man.
The the vibes around the building just see seemed right. So,
like I said, man, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Have you had a chance to talk to Carmen Brisil
or your offensive line coach?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yes, we actually just talked for about about twenty minutes
in a calf Man. It was great, Uh, you know,
just picking his brain a little bit, him telling me,
you know, the basics of the protections and stuff like that.
Get my mind bat going on football. You know, it's
it's good man. Coach seems like a seems like a
great guy. Man. I can't wait to get in the
room with him.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
How different based on what he told you when you're
twenty minute conversation obviously didn't get the heavy details, but
are some of the basic protection rules compared to maybe
what you've done in the past.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Obviously, it's it's all similarity in it. In the NFL
when it comes to protection, a lot of just a
lot of the protection rules are the same. But I
mean it's just you know, you got you got different terms,
So I mean our terms are probably gonna be a
little bit different from what I'm what I'm used to.
But I mean it's not nothing that I can't can't

(03:36):
learn and get accustomed to.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I know, I asked you about tackle. Do you have
any experience inside playing guard? Did they talk to you
about maybe being a fucks guy inside or have they
talked you mostly about tackle.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I have not played any guard yet in game, but
I have played guard in practice, and it's it's not
anything that I'm against.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Whatever I have to do to get on the field,
I will do.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I really think being the backup swing tackle is one
of the toughest jobs in football. I gotta be honest
with you. Did you have to be ready to go
on and play two different spots. You have to be
ready to play two different opponents, but that could be
completely different styles. Be used to playing next to a
different player, which on the offensive line is important to
have that unspoken chemistry with the guy next to you.
So what's your process like to be ready for a

(04:15):
game where look, if I gotta go on the right side,
I'm ready. If I go on the left side, I'm ready.
How do you prepare for that?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Well, my coach Bill Kyllahan told me as a as
a as a rookie, you gotta treat that role as
if you know how baseball players, how the pitchers close
the game.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh, I like that.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
You know how the pitchers switch in in and out
throughout the games. Uh. You know, it's basically the same
thing with being a swing tackle. Somebody goes down in
halfway through the third quarter, you have to come in
and finish the game, and you it can't be any
drop off, especially if you're if you're going at left tackle, uh,
or if you're going at right tackle. But I mean

(04:57):
more so I at left tackle. I mean you're come
in and you got you're protecting the quarterbacks blind side.
So I mean that it's it's definitely hard, not easy
at all. But yeah, it's like you know the picture
jobs in in baseball, hoddle up, get in here.

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would you describe your mentality as an offensive lineman and
your approach to the game in general.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
A dog man. I just want to get out there
and work and just you know, I let the work
speak for itself. I don't cheat anything when it comes
to the work, you know. I just I just want
to go out there and just help the team win.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I want to do whatever I gotta do to help
the team win.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So I gotta imagine, like most offensive linemen, you prefer run,
blocking the past.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Blocking whatever whatever is gonna get the ball in the
end zone.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, I feel you, man, do you have a preference
like gap scheme, zone scheme, run game anything like that.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't really have a preference. But I mean in
the past, coming from our offense, you.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Know, we were a wide zone heavy zone, right.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Heavy heavy wide zone office, and it kind of transitioned
this past past season to mid zone. But that that
zone scheme is kind of what I what I come from.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
What was it like being coached by Bill Callahan. He's
one of the great offensive line coaches and the lad's
been doing a long time. What are some of the
things you learned from that you think you can carry
in hear to the Giants.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Coach Callahan and Coach Callahan has helped my game tremendously,
you know. He he taught me a lot as as
a rookie, and you know, I had a bumpy rookie
season and it helped me get better for the for
the following years because I didn't want those things to

(07:13):
happen again that happened in my rookie year, and uh,
it was good that those things happened early on and
that it you know, I gain that experience so that
you know, I won't let it, but won't let those
things happen again. So yeah, man, Coach Kellen, he he,
he was on me hard, and you know, he just
he helped me, helped my game so much, Man, I

(07:33):
greatly appreciating for that.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Do you prefer to be coach hard? You one of
those guys that like to have the guys really on
you about every detail.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Definitely, definitely definitely like being coach hard.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I think you'll like that here then, because that's Howard
want to.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean, kind I kind of feel like I kind
of feel like I don't know any other way. Coach
Callahan was a hard coach. I mean, I don't know
any other way than to be coach hard.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
So now I hear you, man. Final question, do you
have any bucket list thing like in New York the first,
you know, day of free time in the city or
things around the area you want to do?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I do not, Man. I've been in New York a
couple of times, and you know, I've done things that
I've done the things that I wanted to do before
when I came. But you know, it's gonna be a
little bit a little bit different living here, but I'm excited. Man.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
You actually get better weather here than in Cleveland. You yeah,
better than Cleveland. Absolutely, look like one of my best
friends lives in Cleveland. So I mean that like two
times a year. I don't think I've seen the sun
there when I go to Cleveland. Oh, it's cloudy, it.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Gets it gets pretty, it gets pretty warm up there, man.
But I would say it's some similarities in the weather
between New York and Cleveland, and both get cold and
really really cold in both places.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
It does here. That's true. You said you were here
before and you did what you want to do. What
was your favorite New York experience that you had when
you visit?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Uh, definitely going to all the piecea places in eating pizza.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Answer here is great, no question. That's awesome, dude. And
I'm guessing did you curate your sweater here red and
blue for the Giants?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Definitely? Definitely.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Actually when it got it yesterday, Uh, I went went
and went shopping to go grab me some clothes and
seeing this and thought, you know, this would be perfect
for today.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
James. Congratulations, welcome on board. Good to have you, dude.
Thanks man, Thank you James. It's the newest member of
the New York Football Giants.

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Football Giants offensive tackle Stone Foresight Soon. How are you man?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
About you?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'm doing great? So why do you decide to come
to the Giants?

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Just fresh opportunity, a good start. I like the situation here,
Just keep competing and just kind of get a get
a fresh set of eyes on me.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Anything specific with the offensive line, coaching situation or the
group that you think makes it a good fit for.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
You now, just a great group of guys. I mean
Andrew Thomas, Jermaine and those guys. Great guys to learn
behind and work with.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Did you have anyone either from a coaching or player perspective,
that you were able to talk to to talk about
this situation, to kind of get an idea of what
it would be like to play here.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I talked to Drew Locke. He was in Seattle with me,
so he was a little foot in the door for me.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Nicely, what do you have to say about being here
in the organization.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
And great organization, he said. It's just very family orientated.
It just a great place to be here.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
All right. So you've played a lot of snaps in
this league. You've had fourteen starts, fifty three games. You've
played right tackle and left tackle. Comfort level at both
spots are the same or more comfortable on the right side?
Where do you think you're kind of better right now?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm about the same.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
During the off season. It starts an off season for me.
I do a rep at left, rep at right, so
finish more workouts doing those every day. So I'm kind
of comfortable of both either wherever I'm now.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
You're a tall guy six eight three h seven obviously
very long. How do you like to utilize your length
in the way you play the position to protect the quarterback?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I just like get my hands on the guys first
to keep them off me, kind of redirect them, meet
them rather than let them hit me. So kind of
try to beat the hammer rather than the nail in
that situation.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's a good plan. James Hudson another guy that's coming
in here, also a guy that plays right tackle left tackle,
and I asked him this question. I ask it to
you too. I think being that backup swing tackle is
one of the hardest jobs in the Yeah, for sure,
you have to be ready to come in and play
two different positions. You have to footwork is completely reversed.
You have to play next to a different guy. The
guy you're playing against is going to be different. So
what's your preparation like during the week to make sure

(11:39):
you're ready to step in in either spot at a
moment's notice when you're needed.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
It's a lot of mental work for me. I mean
kind of I mean going throughout the week, and you
get long in the season and kind of the reps
are limited throughout the season, so a lot of mental
work just visualizing, just kind of going over your steps
left and right, just kind of off the field, maybe
during warm up or anything like that. So there's a
lot of visualization for me.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
You've played the Giants the last couple of years. You
started to get right tackle one year, left tackle the other.
What was your feel for this Giants team, their culture,
how they go about their business on the defensive line
specifically obviously, is that's the group you're going against?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Uh delon, Those are some dogs. We knew we were
going to get a get a four quarter game going
against those guys every year we played them, and uh,
fortunately or unfortunately this year we kind of came up
short in that situation because it was there's a dog
fight the whole game.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, that was a very close back and the fourth game.
All right, So New York the city, what do you
know about it? If you've been here before?

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Your feel just for the games so far, it's been busy,
a lot of traffic coming from the airport.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Did you find the Newark or what'd you flying to? JFK.
That's a lot of traffic, there's a hike. So anything
in particular now that they're going to be spending a
lot of time here and in a few months when
you guys move out here that you want to make
sure you do that you're looking forward to kind of
dip in your toe went to New York City, New
Jersey life.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Definitely check out the typical New York stuff, kind of
times Square, Central Park, get some pizza somewhere, kind of
do the two or three things.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Your family see or anything that they have in mind
that you want to make sure you go out and do.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
She hasn't been up here either, so I guess the
same thing, and I'm sure she'll want to hit the
Louis Store or something like that.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Good stuff soon. If you investage for giant fans about you,
how you approach the game, in your game, what would
you tell?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Just consistent, hard worker, Just try to be the best
version of myself every day, every play. And I feel
like if I'm the best of my best version of myself,
I can be one of the better guys out there.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
So good stuff. Man, welcome on board, Thanks so much
for being with us. So In Forsyth, one of the
newest members of the New York Football Giants,
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