August 14, 2024 • 27 mins
On this episode of the Giants Huddle podcast, John Schmeelk chats with former NFL quarterback, Matt Simms, to discuss Giants training camp, Coach Daboll as a play caller, and the offensive scheme.
:00 - Giants training camp
3:19 - Daniel Jones
9:23 - Coach Daboll’s offense
17:05 - Run game
18:55 - 2024 season
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time to get inside the Giants huts.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought
to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New
York Football Giants. Second time, we're being joined by the
one and only Matt Simms. He's a quarterback trainer. He's
on Serious, He's on a podcast with Big Phil, Big
his dad, Big Phil Simms.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, So first of all, man, before we get going here,
first of all, good to see you again. You've been
out of camp a couple of days this summer. Tell
the folks where they can find everything that you're doing.
Whether you're on Twitter, all that, all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, Twitter, Instagram, the podcast YouTube, wherever you listen to podcasts.
Sims complete, me and Big Phil talking all things ball.
We focus a little bit more, i would say, on
the quarterback position, just given our expertise in our background.
But yeah, my father and I just love the game
so much, and of course we love also just the
(00:57):
friendly banter between father and son talking talking football.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And yeah, it's been it's been a real honor and
privilege to do this with him.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's been great having your dad back in the building.
The preseason games. Man, he seems invigor eight. You guys
get to hang out. He he's watching practice.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's fun, it really is.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And I know how excited he is to be back.
And you know, there for a while where he was
with CBS for you know, more than twenty years, it
was you know, I think it was strange for him
to say that he was part of the media, and
he really couldn't necessarily like identify consistently with saying that,
like I'm a Giant, I'm rooting for the Giants, all
those things. But he really does enjoy just being in
(01:35):
the cafeteria talking all the guys, seeing the players, seeing
former players like Howard Cross and Carl Banks and all
them talking with guys like you about the game, about
years past, great storytelling.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And yeah, showed up to do.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The show with Sirius XM with with Bob Papa today
and you know, lo and behold, I walk into the
cafeteria and there there's Big Phil and I'm like, hey,
you know, will he was gonna be here.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I did not know he was gonna be here today.
So it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
He didn't tell me and I didn't tell him, and yeah,
here we were in the Giants cafeteria hanging out. But yeah,
it really is special and I know he's enjoying every
minute of it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, you just got off the air with Bob Papa
doing the serious XM Giants training camp special. They do
one for every team every year. Just let's start very simple.
What are your impressions having been around the team for
a few days now this summer, what have you seen
and what's jumped out of you?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, I mean one, just you know, the one hundred
years this is This is a special offseason, a special
season for the New York Giants. It really just kind
of reminds, I think everyone in the NFL too, just
like how special this organization is, right And you know,
of course there's great organizations throughout the NFL and the
Steelers and the Cowboys and all that, but just like,
you know, the Giants have been doing it for such
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a long time, you know, the Maras, the Tishes and
what they've done for this league and for everything. It's
just it's so special and for my father to be
a part of that is unbelievable and I think too.
Just you know, hey, season ninety nine didn't go great.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, but no it did not.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You know, I think there is that genuine optimist, you know,
approach to this season. You know, I think a lot
of people are excited. The offensive line has improved, a
healthy Daniel Jones. The skill group I think has improved
that much more with a guy like Milik Neighbors now
inserted into the starting lineup, Brian dabad now going back
to being the play caller again on the offense side
(03:20):
of the football. So a lot of things I think
to be excited about for this team and for me
being a fan of the Giants, just really looking forward
to the season.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Good and you hit all the bullet points and hit
with you it's just perfect. So I want to focus
on the offensive side of the ball. If you've given
your quarterback that's.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
To do it, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So let's go with DJ. What have you seen from
him watching him throw the ball moving around? I mean,
I think if you told people, if you didn't tell
people rather that he had an ACL last year, people
would think he's one hundred percent. He you couldn't tell
by looking at him. But what are your impressions watching
me again?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, I think really just it's that the ability to
be super comfortable in the offense, and I think you
really do see that in practice, is that you know,
there is no hesitation with what he sees the as
everyone says on TV, like the footwork and the eyes
are matching each other. And when he hitches, he's turning,
he's throwing in rhythm. The guys are getting out of
the cuts, the ball is exactly where it needs to be.
(04:10):
He's throwing with tremendous power, he's throwing with tremendous anticipation,
and just being a super decisive decision maker right now.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
So far, so the.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Past few days that I've seen in practice, I have
not seen any moment where he looked unsure of himself.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He looked like he was throwing with great conviction of
the football. And you know, not only that, but just yeah,
looks like he's standing super confident in the pocket, someone
who's coming off of, like you said that acl injury
and even the next things that he's dealt with, you know,
playing extremely big and strong in the pocket, which he
naturally is as a person. And then also too the
pocket itself just looks cleaner. It looks like there's more
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of a surface area for him to operate on. And
then you get those tidbits of reminding everybody, the fans
and everyone at home, just like, dude is a phenomenal athlete.
And he took off and ran on two plays in
practice today and one of them probably would have been
a forty five fifty yard touchdown because he took off
and out run everybody on the defense. So just excited
(05:07):
to see a healthy Daniel Jones reinvigorated always. You know,
just can't say enough about the person and how hard
he works. So really excited to see you know, him
put his best best foot forward for the season.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, I want to get say the offensive line in
the second, but final on DJ physically, I don't think
fans quite realize how well put together a person. Yeah,
was like, you know, we were joking the cafeteria. You
guys all call him Big Phil, and you know Phil
stands next to Carl Banks, and he's like bigger than
Carl and people don't like just I'm not even like
bigger like that big like frame wise, He's just a
(05:42):
humongous person. And you know, DJ I don't think is
the big film status, but DJ is.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I mean, he's no DJ.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I was saying thirty, Yeah, pretty big DJ six five,
two thirty. I mean I'm six three, two fifteen, And
you know, I just feel like there's a notal subdition
difference between like, you know, my frame and how I
look compared to DJ. You know, he's just he's kind
of got it all, you know, And I think the
exciting thing for me as a fan, you know, is
just knowing that he does have a little bit more
of a supporting cast for himself to really just build
(06:11):
that confidence.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Like I know, like you laugh a little, right, but
it's just like.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well, because this is the conversation we've been having for
five years.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I know, it takes time, and you know, unfortunately for
Daniel it wasn't necessarily in the time that he probably
would have liked it to be at, you know, like
compared to a lot of other guys that are thrust
in the starting lineup and kind of have that that
room for error. But even Bob Papa made a great
example that I think, you know, is really true. Like
it's kind of like Alex Smith, you know, in San Francisco,
(06:38):
like We knew that he was good, We knew that
he could kind of do it. We just didn't see
enough evidence to prove that. And there also wasn't enough
of a supporting cast or structure around him to support
that either. And it looks like we're we're hopefully kind
of getting on that same track that he experienced in
San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, then Alex Smith winds up a with first with
hardball there, then he winds up with Andy Reid in
Kansas City. Yeah, the weapons there and everything.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, that ends up having a fifteen year career, and
we think very highly of him and who he is
as a person, in the character that he has as
he was as a football player.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Absolutely put the fans in the shoes of a quarterback.
Because I haven't even asked you about protection of the
offensive line yet you've mentioned I think three times and
answers about the question. I guess, so, yeah, no nobody,
it makes sense, right, And this is what I want
to get to. So how difficult is it for a
quarterback to be confident in the pocket, to throw in rhythm,
to always have their eyes down field, to be able
(07:28):
to make those good decisions when and this might sound strong,
but if you watch the tape last year, it's hard
to argue you have zero confidence that your lying can
give you any level of protection because you have so
many injuries in front of you.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, and I think you know, Shane, we talked with Shane,
you know, during the interview for a serious XM and
Shan and Joshan excuse me, and he just you know,
he was saying that just the fact that we have
depth in that room now, you know, really adds another
level of just like feeling confident about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Knowing that a guy like you know.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Stinny might be the fifth or guy in that offensive line,
Like that's exciting news for us. You know, a luminord
who is you know, really doing a great job at
the tackle position. You know, to know that Evan Neil
now is you know, one of our potentially starters or
backups at the tackle position, like this is great. You know,
these are good things to have because all these guys
are capable and have game experience. And you know, for
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the quarterback position, we saw it so much, you know,
just with so many quarterbacks that the the hits that
you take early on in your career, you know, they
really do take a toll on you and mentally physically,
I mean spiritually, however you want to say it. Man,
you know, it just takes away from your confidence to
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really play super decisive and just really be convicted in
what you see with every single play that you have
out there. And I think that's where for me, you know,
I get really excited for Daniel Jones, And that's why
I get really excited too, for even the fact that
Daniel has day Balls to play color now too, because
I mean, let's face it, you know, coach day Ball,
(09:01):
he earned this job of being a head coach by
being a great offensive mind and by being a great,
great play caller and a great game manager. And seeing
him back where you know he really belongs, I think
it is very exciting for all of us fans for
this Giant season.
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Speaker 2 (09:33):
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Speaker 1 (09:33):
I want to get to the receivers in a second,
but let's stay on Dable. Why in your mind, again,
speaking from a guy that played quarterback. Is he such
a good play caller? What does he do well that
helps set up a quarterback for success.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Well, I think one of the things that's really interesting
about him is that he does a great job of
understanding kind of just what it takes to win, right
given the team that he has built. So I mean,
let's just take Buffalo for example. I mean, there he
is in Buffalo with the young quarterback, and everyone's thinking,
let's let's run the football more, let's win it the
(10:06):
line of scrimmage, let's protect the football, let's protect.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Our young quarterback. And what does he do.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
He goes bout there and he throws it thirty forty times,
you know, like two or three weeks in a row
with backs first down, third, it didn't matter. We were
throwing it. And and I think it's kind of one
of those things where just like he believed in what
he put in conceptually for his offense for those few
weeks and it was successful and it worked, and it
also helped Josh Allen really build that confidence within himself
(10:31):
to continue to do that and put the team essentially
on his back. So I think, you know, coach day Ball,
just having the understanding of you know, really utilizing what
his players do extremely well, consistently being creative, and then
really honestly just you know, having that ownership.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Of it I think is really important.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You know, instead of being able to say, ah, you
should have called this instead of that. You know, now
it's like, man, you know, yeah, maybe I should have
called that. But now you're really going to put more
of an f of like feeling super confident, like what
it is that you're doing, what plays you're executing, what
plays that you're installing, to get your guys open each
and every play.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And you know, with the.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Young receiver corps, he's got a lot of work ahead
him obviously to make sure that he's not overwhelming them.
But at the same time, I do have complete faith
that he has the ability to do that and to
really make that bridge that gap between his veteran and
younger players.
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dot com slash giants. So I think it's interesting, Matt.
I want to talk to you about what a difference
the play calling park can make, right, because the systems
(11:44):
the same. It's is the same system that's been in
the last two years.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It was Dable.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It was always Dables offense cast offense. He had a
little wrinkles, like you talked to And this is how
I know because I talked to the guys that got
it from Buffalo like a year later, and they're like, yeah,
it's the same, but we definitely see some of the
rinkles that Kathola brought in. Right, it was always Dable's system.
What difference can having a different voice maybe in some
of those offensive meeting rooms, telling the quarterbacks what the
focus on, combined with maybe the rhythm you call plays,
(12:10):
the timing and sequencing of your plays. How much of
a difference can that change make even if the base
offensive system is still the same.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, and this is where every year is different, right,
Every team and its roster is slightly different. So what
you do really will kind of vary on just like
what those individuals do best. Right for you to execute
efficiently consistently, and most offenses, I feel like, really don't
know what their identity is until probably like week five
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or six of the NFL season ten and even sometimes
later than that. You know, even the Kansas City Chiefs
is a great example of that, Like they didn't really
know what the hell they were until like week twelve
or thirteen of the season. You know, now they still
won the Super Bowl, but still, like you do have
to kind of go through those growing pains. And I
think with day Ball being in the room with the quarterbacks,
you know, now it's not like, well, this is what
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Cask is saying, and then Dave Ball is kind of
all right throwing his two cents in there to his
offense or to his recipe. Now you really are hearing
it from the chef, like, no, this is how we're
gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
This is how I want you to execute it.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You know, I know this might be a difficult throw here,
but I'm just telling you have conviction, make the throw,
get it done, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And I think those things.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Are very empowering for football players, right to be able
to say, like there is one voice and one opinion
you have to worry about, and that's the head coach
or our offensive coordinator. He's in the room with me
every single day, and you really do start to build
that connection. I mean, if we spend every day after
practice doing this show, after a year or two, we
would have a great rapport with each other. We would
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be able to finish each other's sentences. And that's really
how you have to be when you're a coach quarterback connection.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
All right, Now, let's give to the third part of
the kind of the supporting cast. We talk about protection,
We talked about the coaching Yeah, now let's talking about
the targets stow it.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, because I mean, let's.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Be honest, we've talked about the offensive line. But since
Daniel Jones has been here, Darius Slayton's been his number
one wide receiver, right, And I think on most teams
Slayton's a two or three right based on his numbers,
the type of player that he is, really good player,
reliable receiver, But he doesn't profile as a traditional number
one in an offense right league nighbors, on the other hand, yeah,
profiles as a one. So how does that make things
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besides the obvious, how does that make things easier for
a quarterback? Just even in his decision making process when
he goes back to the past when you have a
guy like that that you know, if you're playing man again,
he's gonna win pretty much every time.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Right, And this just goes back to like even like
the stories that my father would tell me about, you know,
just Mark Bavarro and like his aspect and his impact
on the football team. You know that Parcells would say like, yeah, hey,
I know Bavarro's covered here, but still throw it to
him because he's open even when he's covered. And I
think that's something that should be refreshing for day Ball
and for Daniel Jones too, is that malikue Nambers has
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really shown throughout his career at LSU that even when
he is extremely like well covered down the field, if
you give him the opportunity, more than not, he's gonna
come down with that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I mean as far as like catch probability rate. Last
year in college football, as far as contested catches, it
was like Roma Dunsa and then him and then Marvin Harrison, right,
and like it was substantially those three compared to the
rest of the country. So for Daniel Jones, I think
he's gonna have a great time. Like he'll probably throw
one of those passes in the game where it's like
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he'll throw and be like, ooh, maybe I shouldn't and
then all beg oh, man, all right, my dude just
caught that really confidently and easily. And you know what,
I can continue to do those things more and more.
And that's where I think players really start to kind of,
you know, kind of fall in love with each other
on the field that way when they have those plays
to build off of it. I think Daniel Jones for
the first time his career.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Has that guy.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
And by doing that now you're going to allow other
guys like Slayton and Hyatt to really build into those
other roles and to play those roles extremely well. And
you know, I'm excited even for like today, like at practice,
like I thought THEO Johnson really really impressed me today.
I thought he looked really good. He moves well, he's
got a big frame. You can definitely mix him up
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with the formations and the personnel groupings. So for a
young football player, you know, THEO Johnson bleak neighbors. You know,
I think there's some really good pieces to build upon
here for this new York Giants offense.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Does that make it easier for Dable to game plan too?
Because eventually, oh, yeah, are going to you know, you
go into a game, the other team's gonna do the
old red sharpie on neighbors, right the circle for the
game plan focused on him. Does that then make it
easier for Dable to attack that team knowing that they're
going to be focused on neighbors?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah? And you know, and sometimes too, you know, it
goes both.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Ways, right where it's like, all right, let's be creative
to get our guy the ball, of course, and then
there's the times where like it doesn't matter, We're just
gonna give our guy the ball and we're still gonna
get it done, you know. And this is where like
I think Kyle Shanahan really taught me this when we're
in Atlanta with Julio Jones and you see him now
too in San Francisco with Deebo Samuel. Is that, Yeah,
they don't necessarily throw him the traditional like let's get
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him open on an incut or this, like, no, let's
give him a reverse, Let's give him a speed reverse.
Let's give him you know, this little trick player this
screen or this and I think those are the plays
that we should see a little bit more of in
this Giants offense that we did not see a year ago,
which allows Leakue Neighbors in this offense to really kind
of spread the field out more than we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And I think the running game will be fine. I
know Sakua and Balky is a big loss, but given
I think your improved protection, teams are gonna have to
keep two safeties deep a lot more with Hyatt and
Neighbors out there. Then in Singletary is a professional running back.
And we'll see about the Tyrone Tracy injury. We don't
have any more details in that from today, right. Terrible
to see, Yeah, But I think the running game for
a coach that I think, like to your point earlier
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from Buffalo, wants to throw to set up the run, right,
He's not run this up the pas half a guy,
He's the opposite. I think Sengletary is going to be
more than fine to run this offense what he wants
to run it.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, And I think Eric Gray has looked really good,
you know, for the few days that I've been here
at camp, and what I saw in the preseason game too.
He looks like he's playing super confident football. It seems
like he's getting downhill with like simple you know, cuts,
extremely fast, He's low to the ground, he's come pack player.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
He does a good job of catching out of the
backfield too.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So I feel like there's enough pieces here for this
offense to really start to you know, create a real identity.
And that really was I think the issue the past
few years is like what was the identity of the offense?
You know, it's like, oh, Saquon Barkley, It's all right,
that's great, But like with the struggling offensive line and
no weapons on the outside and playing from behind all
the time, and playing from behind, it's like, how can
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we utilize one of the better running backs in the NFL. So,
you know, hopefully a little bit more dispersed offense, a
little more evenly, you know, distributed football, the protection again.
You know, now we'll see more athleticism out of our quarterback,
which we know that he had has and is capable of.
And I think that's where, you know, there should be
some really big strides for this football team. And really
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just the depth at the offensive line position, all the positions,
I think is absolutely huge.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And veteran depth where you know what you're getting if
you bring the guys in.
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Speaker 1 (19:06):
Final two questions realistic expectation you think for this offense
and this team in general heading into twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
For the offense, I mean, I don't really know how
to like, you know, how to label it, but I mean, hey,
it's it's got to be and it will be better
than it was a year ago.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
As far as the expectations for the football team, me
and Papa were talking about on serious XM just a
moment ago.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
But it's just like, you know, what's the over under.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I would say that, like, you know, fans in general,
we'd be thinking eight or nine wins, you know. But
I see this as a team that if we can
get off on a good start and kind of build
that confidence early on in the season and not fall
behind too early, you know, this is a team that
I think really can win nine, ten eleven wins and
kind of do what they did a year ago.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know two years ago.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Excuse me, and really shock some people, because I wouldn't
be shocked either if like the Cowboys or the Eagles,
you know, didn't necessarily live up to all the expectations
that we have from offseason. So there's something you know,
going on in the division. You know, the Cowboys there
seemed a little distraction. The Eagles, they always got something
going on really recently. So you know, for me, just
(20:11):
again being an optimistic Giants fan, excited for this football
team and really looking forward to the season.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Final question. We do a ton of draft stuff. Here
is one of our favorite times years. We did a
lot of these questions about the quarterbacks, right yere right,
Just curious to see what your expectations are for those
Gosh what it ended up being five first round quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Right? Yeah? Six? Six? Right? Nix was the six guy.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yes, I'm trying to remember all the guys had so
many of them is amazing, though, Yeah, what are your
kind of expectations for the group And who do you
think you're you're most excited for in their rookie year?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I mean, definitely Caleb Williams. I thought Caleb Williams. You know,
I haven't been doing this media thing for a very
long time. But just like I was so impressed with
his ability, his command, his his just the easiness in
which he plays such a difficult game, and how powerful
his arm is, how athletic he is, the leadership that
he has in the football fields, He got a football.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Players like you don't think that people about the accuracy.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
No doubt that too, that too, and that's you know,
so he's definitely up there. I was a huge fan
of Michael Pennix as well. I think, you know, the
cool thing is is that for all of us football
fans out there, we saw six guys in their first
preseason action look really really comfortable in the NFL, like
right from the start.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And that's where it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Like, these guys got a ton of reps in college,
they played a lot of big games. They essentially had
their franchises on their back even in college. And I
think all the coaches from around the league, whether it
was Denver, you know, in Atlanta, it didn't matter. It
seemed like all of them really did a great job
of preparing these young men to play extremely well in
the first week, and you know, really excited to see
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what they do. But yeah, I'm excited to see you know,
Caleb Williams for sure. Jaden Daniels I think will absolutely
thrive in Washington and really, you know, build up that
that organization to where I think we were used to
seeing it and bring some excitement back to the division
with a well rounded quarterback division.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I know the SIMS crew wasn't guys weren't like members
of the Drake May fan club. I was a member
of the I think he's gonna be really good. So
I'm curious, toy.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I don't know what I wouldn't say that, you know,
But yeah, I think I did have him as like
my fifth ranked quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Right, yeah, he was my second. I had him at
a Daniels, which I know was unpopular.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, I just from watching the film, I think Drake
May is capable of being as good, if not better
than any of them in that group. But I still
thought that there was some rawness to the position.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I felt like there was some.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Inconsistencies as far as the way he looked in the pocket,
you know, being set up to throw to the route
that he was looking at. It seemed always to be
a little off at times.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And his accuracy was scattersh he was off and on
week to week.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And I think he was on a team too that
like necessarily wasn't like playing for like championships, and they
were kind of just like.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Kind of lent and fly. So I feel like that allowed.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Him to develop like some some bad habits, really some
habits that are not going to fly in the NFL, Like, Oh,
don't worry about that pick, We're gonna throw another.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Three times in this game, you know. So you know,
I think Drake is capable. I do. I believe that.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know, he's got that competitive spirit. You see that
in him when you when you watch him and hear
him talk and all those things. So for him, the
biggest thing is just there's no rush for him. Learn
from Jacoby Prissett, you know, do your best to absorb
as much as you can from a guy who's really
been through it all in the NFL, and just slowly build.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Into the position.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
The worst thing that could happen for him is like
exactly what happened with Zach Willson a year ago. Sit
learn from Aaron Rodgers. Oh, Aaron's hurt a right now,
you gotta be our guy again, you know. So that
really is I think the worst thing that can happen
for him. Get him reps in the preseason, doesn't matter
if they're ugly, learn from him, learn to be a
great pro from Japacoby Presset, and then you know, hopefully
he can become a great franchise quarterback for the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You take your time, especially the situation there with the
whiteouts and the offensive line is not the best. So
I don't, yeah, you want.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I mean, they're the same team.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I feel like as the Giants were a year ago
as well, like for this year, just they're trying to
figure out, like what what are we right? And offensive
lines a big problem. They have improved the skill.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Group a little bit. But yeah, well we'll see. It's
going to be an interesting year for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And I love the fact that three of these rookie quarterbacks Daniels, Knicks,
and Pennix, they're all like twenty four, Like, they're all experienced,
So you get hopefully some of these guys learn where
you can stay in college an extra couple of years
become a finished product. Yeah yeah, Like if Daniels comes
out last year, he's a fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, it's just it's crazy too that you know, my
father and I we discussed this multiple times on SIMS
complete Just why is it being more mature and more
experienced in the college game a detriment now all of
a sudden to transitioning to the NFL quarterbacks twenty four
when we just had a quarterback who retired at the
age of forty five, right, you know, and we're going
out of our way even more to protect the quarterback
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each and every year. So I'm all for it. They
got a ton of experience, super talented group. Really wish
them the best, you know, even for JJ McCarthy, you know,
coming off this knee injury, now he played great, you know,
Excited to see where he goes. I mean, he's only
twenty one, twenty two years old, so he's experienced and
he's young, so he's kind of got both, you know,
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aces up his sleeve. But you know, I think all
these guys really found great homes for themselves, and that's
really the biggest thing. You want to see them at
places that really appreciate their talent and want to help
that talent build into the future. And you know, I
think we're really fortunate as football fans to have this
young class coming.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Up one more time. Tell the folks think you'll find
everything you're doing.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, Sim's complete, available on YouTube wherever podcasts are available.
Me and Big Phil talking all things football, and you know,
him teasing his son about you know, what father sees
their sons about. So I'm sure I do my best,
you know, But he's the Super Bowl MVP. You know,
he's got a lot of leverage on me. You know,
I was just like a back of the Jets, So
I don't really have much, you know, but you know,
my father and I have a great time.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
We enjoy the game so much. The game has given
so much to our family.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Extremely grateful for every opportunity and to come to Giants
camp and to see my father there and to see
all the people just kind of, you know, surround them
like it's a campfire and listen to the stories and
everything that that generation went through. It's super special and
again a reminder too of just you know, how special
he was as an individual football player, how special those
teams were in the eighties and nineties, and again just
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how special this organization is too. So, you know, extremely
grateful for the opportunity to be a part of of
that story.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You're going to drag Chris down here at some point
or is he just going to stay in Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
You know, yeah, I mean Chris, Chris is now, Chris
is the man. I mean the fact that my brother
is one of the better people in the media game
right now for for football and excited. He's got an
opportunity here for for college football this season as well.
So he's doing like the NBC you know, Game Day Show. Yes,
I know that he's got that coming up too. So yeah,
Big Christopher is doing his thing to hopefully fill in
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the shoes that Big Phil left form. And uh, you know,
the good thing is is that they know what they're
talking about. They got great experience and they back it
up with facts. So yeah, you know, the Sims family
is doing their thing, and I'm just trying to hold
up my end of the bargain.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I gave you a chance to take a shot, your brother,
and you took the high road.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I took the ted Lasso approach.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah you know, so it's all good man, Citizen younger
brothers do.
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Speaker 2 (27:18):
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It's time to get inside the Giants huts.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought
to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New
York Football Giants. Second time, we're being joined by the
one and only Matt Simms. He's a quarterback trainer. He's
on Serious, He's on a podcast with Big Phil, Big
his dad, Big Phil Simms.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, So first of all, man, before we get going here,
first of all, good to see you again. You've been
out of camp a couple of days this summer. Tell
the folks where they can find everything that you're doing.
Whether you're on Twitter, all that, all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, Twitter, Instagram, the podcast YouTube, wherever you listen to podcasts.
Sims complete, me and Big Phil talking all things ball.
We focus a little bit more, i would say, on
the quarterback position, just given our expertise in our background.
But yeah, my father and I just love the game
so much, and of course we love also just the
(00:57):
friendly banter between father and son talking talking football.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And yeah, it's been it's been a real honor and
privilege to do this with him.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's been great having your dad back in the building.
The preseason games. Man, he seems invigor eight. You guys
get to hang out. He he's watching practice.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's fun, it really is.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And I know how excited he is to be back.
And you know, there for a while where he was
with CBS for you know, more than twenty years, it
was you know, I think it was strange for him
to say that he was part of the media, and
he really couldn't necessarily like identify consistently with saying that,
like I'm a Giant, I'm rooting for the Giants, all
those things. But he really does enjoy just being in
(01:35):
the cafeteria talking all the guys, seeing the players, seeing
former players like Howard Cross and Carl Banks and all
them talking with guys like you about the game, about
years past, great storytelling.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And yeah, showed up to do.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The show with Sirius XM with with Bob Papa today
and you know, lo and behold, I walk into the
cafeteria and there there's Big Phil and I'm like, hey,
you know, will he was gonna be here.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I did not know he was gonna be here today.
So it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
He didn't tell me and I didn't tell him, and yeah,
here we were in the Giants cafeteria hanging out. But yeah,
it really is special and I know he's enjoying every
minute of it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, you just got off the air with Bob Papa
doing the serious XM Giants training camp special. They do
one for every team every year. Just let's start very simple.
What are your impressions having been around the team for
a few days now this summer, what have you seen
and what's jumped out of you?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, I mean one, just you know, the one hundred
years this is This is a special offseason, a special
season for the New York Giants. It really just kind
of reminds, I think everyone in the NFL too, just
like how special this organization is, right And you know,
of course there's great organizations throughout the NFL and the
Steelers and the Cowboys and all that, but just like,
you know, the Giants have been doing it for such
(02:41):
a long time, you know, the Maras, the Tishes and
what they've done for this league and for everything. It's
just it's so special and for my father to be
a part of that is unbelievable and I think too.
Just you know, hey, season ninety nine didn't go great.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, but no it did not.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You know, I think there is that genuine optimist, you know,
approach to this season. You know, I think a lot
of people are excited. The offensive line has improved, a
healthy Daniel Jones. The skill group I think has improved
that much more with a guy like Milik Neighbors now
inserted into the starting lineup, Brian dabad now going back
to being the play caller again on the offense side
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of the football. So a lot of things I think
to be excited about for this team and for me
being a fan of the Giants, just really looking forward
to the season.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Good and you hit all the bullet points and hit
with you it's just perfect. So I want to focus
on the offensive side of the ball. If you've given
your quarterback that's.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
To do it, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So let's go with DJ. What have you seen from
him watching him throw the ball moving around? I mean,
I think if you told people, if you didn't tell
people rather that he had an ACL last year, people
would think he's one hundred percent. He you couldn't tell
by looking at him. But what are your impressions watching
me again?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, I think really just it's that the ability to
be super comfortable in the offense, and I think you
really do see that in practice, is that you know,
there is no hesitation with what he sees the as
everyone says on TV, like the footwork and the eyes
are matching each other. And when he hitches, he's turning,
he's throwing in rhythm. The guys are getting out of
the cuts, the ball is exactly where it needs to be.
(04:10):
He's throwing with tremendous power, he's throwing with tremendous anticipation,
and just being a super decisive decision maker right now.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
So far, so the.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Past few days that I've seen in practice, I have
not seen any moment where he looked unsure of himself.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He looked like he was throwing with great conviction of
the football. And you know, not only that, but just yeah,
looks like he's standing super confident in the pocket, someone
who's coming off of, like you said that acl injury
and even the next things that he's dealt with, you know,
playing extremely big and strong in the pocket, which he
naturally is as a person. And then also too the
pocket itself just looks cleaner. It looks like there's more
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of a surface area for him to operate on. And
then you get those tidbits of reminding everybody, the fans
and everyone at home, just like, dude is a phenomenal athlete.
And he took off and ran on two plays in
practice today and one of them probably would have been
a forty five fifty yard touchdown because he took off
and out run everybody on the defense. So just excited
(05:07):
to see a healthy Daniel Jones reinvigorated always. You know,
just can't say enough about the person and how hard
he works. So really excited to see you know, him
put his best best foot forward for the season.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, I want to get say the offensive line in
the second, but final on DJ physically, I don't think
fans quite realize how well put together a person. Yeah,
was like, you know, we were joking the cafeteria. You
guys all call him Big Phil, and you know Phil
stands next to Carl Banks, and he's like bigger than
Carl and people don't like just I'm not even like
bigger like that big like frame wise, He's just a
(05:42):
humongous person. And you know, DJ I don't think is
the big film status, but DJ is.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I mean, he's no DJ.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I was saying thirty, Yeah, pretty big DJ six five,
two thirty. I mean I'm six three, two fifteen, And
you know, I just feel like there's a notal subdition
difference between like, you know, my frame and how I
look compared to DJ. You know, he's just he's kind
of got it all, you know, And I think the
exciting thing for me as a fan, you know, is
just knowing that he does have a little bit more
of a supporting cast for himself to really just build
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that confidence.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Like I know, like you laugh a little, right, but
it's just like.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well, because this is the conversation we've been having for
five years.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I know, it takes time, and you know, unfortunately for
Daniel it wasn't necessarily in the time that he probably
would have liked it to be at, you know, like
compared to a lot of other guys that are thrust
in the starting lineup and kind of have that that
room for error. But even Bob Papa made a great
example that I think, you know, is really true. Like
it's kind of like Alex Smith, you know, in San Francisco,
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like We knew that he was good, We knew that
he could kind of do it. We just didn't see
enough evidence to prove that. And there also wasn't enough
of a supporting cast or structure around him to support
that either. And it looks like we're we're hopefully kind
of getting on that same track that he experienced in
San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, then Alex Smith winds up a with first with
hardball there, then he winds up with Andy Reid in
Kansas City. Yeah, the weapons there and everything.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, that ends up having a fifteen year career, and
we think very highly of him and who he is
as a person, in the character that he has as
he was as a football player.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Absolutely put the fans in the shoes of a quarterback.
Because I haven't even asked you about protection of the
offensive line yet you've mentioned I think three times and
answers about the question. I guess, so, yeah, no nobody,
it makes sense, right, And this is what I want
to get to. So how difficult is it for a
quarterback to be confident in the pocket, to throw in rhythm,
to always have their eyes down field, to be able
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to make those good decisions when and this might sound strong,
but if you watch the tape last year, it's hard
to argue you have zero confidence that your lying can
give you any level of protection because you have so
many injuries in front of you.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, and I think you know, Shane, we talked with Shane,
you know, during the interview for a serious XM and
Shan and Joshan excuse me, and he just you know,
he was saying that just the fact that we have
depth in that room now, you know, really adds another
level of just like feeling confident about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Knowing that a guy like you know.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Stinny might be the fifth or guy in that offensive line,
Like that's exciting news for us. You know, a luminord
who is you know, really doing a great job at
the tackle position. You know, to know that Evan Neil
now is you know, one of our potentially starters or
backups at the tackle position, like this is great. You know,
these are good things to have because all these guys
are capable and have game experience. And you know, for
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the quarterback position, we saw it so much, you know,
just with so many quarterbacks that the the hits that
you take early on in your career, you know, they
really do take a toll on you and mentally physically,
I mean spiritually, however you want to say it. Man,
you know, it just takes away from your confidence to
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really play super decisive and just really be convicted in
what you see with every single play that you have
out there. And I think that's where for me, you know,
I get really excited for Daniel Jones, And that's why
I get really excited too, for even the fact that
Daniel has day Balls to play color now too, because
I mean, let's face it, you know, coach day Ball,
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he earned this job of being a head coach by
being a great offensive mind and by being a great,
great play caller and a great game manager. And seeing
him back where you know he really belongs, I think
it is very exciting for all of us fans for
this Giant season.
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Speaker 2 (09:33):
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Speaker 1 (09:33):
I want to get to the receivers in a second,
but let's stay on Dable. Why in your mind, again,
speaking from a guy that played quarterback. Is he such
a good play caller? What does he do well that
helps set up a quarterback for success.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Well, I think one of the things that's really interesting
about him is that he does a great job of
understanding kind of just what it takes to win, right
given the team that he has built. So I mean,
let's just take Buffalo for example. I mean, there he
is in Buffalo with the young quarterback, and everyone's thinking,
let's let's run the football more, let's win it the
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line of scrimmage, let's protect the football, let's protect.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Our young quarterback. And what does he do.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
He goes bout there and he throws it thirty forty times,
you know, like two or three weeks in a row
with backs first down, third, it didn't matter. We were
throwing it. And and I think it's kind of one
of those things where just like he believed in what
he put in conceptually for his offense for those few
weeks and it was successful and it worked, and it
also helped Josh Allen really build that confidence within himself
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to continue to do that and put the team essentially
on his back. So I think, you know, coach day Ball,
just having the understanding of you know, really utilizing what
his players do extremely well, consistently being creative, and then
really honestly just you know, having that ownership.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Of it I think is really important.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You know, instead of being able to say, ah, you
should have called this instead of that. You know, now
it's like, man, you know, yeah, maybe I should have
called that. But now you're really going to put more
of an f of like feeling super confident, like what
it is that you're doing, what plays you're executing, what
plays that you're installing, to get your guys open each
and every play.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And you know, with the.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Young receiver corps, he's got a lot of work ahead
him obviously to make sure that he's not overwhelming them.
But at the same time, I do have complete faith
that he has the ability to do that and to
really make that bridge that gap between his veteran and
younger players.
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dot com slash giants. So I think it's interesting, Matt.
I want to talk to you about what a difference
the play calling park can make, right, because the systems
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the same. It's is the same system that's been in
the last two years.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It was Dable.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It was always Dables offense cast offense. He had a
little wrinkles, like you talked to And this is how
I know because I talked to the guys that got
it from Buffalo like a year later, and they're like, yeah,
it's the same, but we definitely see some of the
rinkles that Kathola brought in. Right, it was always Dable's system.
What difference can having a different voice maybe in some
of those offensive meeting rooms, telling the quarterbacks what the
focus on, combined with maybe the rhythm you call plays,
(12:10):
the timing and sequencing of your plays. How much of
a difference can that change make even if the base
offensive system is still the same.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, and this is where every year is different, right,
Every team and its roster is slightly different. So what
you do really will kind of vary on just like
what those individuals do best. Right for you to execute
efficiently consistently, and most offenses, I feel like, really don't
know what their identity is until probably like week five
(12:38):
or six of the NFL season ten and even sometimes
later than that. You know, even the Kansas City Chiefs
is a great example of that, Like they didn't really
know what the hell they were until like week twelve
or thirteen of the season. You know, now they still
won the Super Bowl, but still, like you do have
to kind of go through those growing pains. And I
think with day Ball being in the room with the quarterbacks,
you know, now it's not like, well, this is what
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Cask is saying, and then Dave Ball is kind of
all right throwing his two cents in there to his
offense or to his recipe. Now you really are hearing
it from the chef, like, no, this is how we're
gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
This is how I want you to execute it.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You know, I know this might be a difficult throw here,
but I'm just telling you have conviction, make the throw,
get it done, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And I think those things.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Are very empowering for football players, right to be able
to say, like there is one voice and one opinion
you have to worry about, and that's the head coach
or our offensive coordinator. He's in the room with me
every single day, and you really do start to build
that connection. I mean, if we spend every day after
practice doing this show, after a year or two, we
would have a great rapport with each other. We would
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be able to finish each other's sentences. And that's really
how you have to be when you're a coach quarterback connection.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
All right, Now, let's give to the third part of
the kind of the supporting cast. We talk about protection,
We talked about the coaching Yeah, now let's talking about
the targets stow it.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, because I mean, let's.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Be honest, we've talked about the offensive line. But since
Daniel Jones has been here, Darius Slayton's been his number
one wide receiver, right, And I think on most teams
Slayton's a two or three right based on his numbers,
the type of player that he is, really good player,
reliable receiver, But he doesn't profile as a traditional number
one in an offense right league nighbors, on the other hand, yeah,
profiles as a one. So how does that make things
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besides the obvious, how does that make things easier for
a quarterback? Just even in his decision making process when
he goes back to the past when you have a
guy like that that you know, if you're playing man again,
he's gonna win pretty much every time.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Right, And this just goes back to like even like
the stories that my father would tell me about, you know,
just Mark Bavarro and like his aspect and his impact
on the football team. You know that Parcells would say like, yeah, hey,
I know Bavarro's covered here, but still throw it to
him because he's open even when he's covered. And I
think that's something that should be refreshing for day Ball
and for Daniel Jones too, is that malikue Nambers has
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really shown throughout his career at LSU that even when
he is extremely like well covered down the field, if
you give him the opportunity, more than not, he's gonna
come down with that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I mean as far as like catch probability rate. Last
year in college football, as far as contested catches, it
was like Roma Dunsa and then him and then Marvin Harrison, right,
and like it was substantially those three compared to the
rest of the country. So for Daniel Jones, I think
he's gonna have a great time. Like he'll probably throw
one of those passes in the game where it's like
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he'll throw and be like, ooh, maybe I shouldn't and
then all beg oh, man, all right, my dude just
caught that really confidently and easily. And you know what,
I can continue to do those things more and more.
And that's where I think players really start to kind of,
you know, kind of fall in love with each other
on the field that way when they have those plays
to build off of it. I think Daniel Jones for
the first time his career.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Has that guy.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
And by doing that now you're going to allow other
guys like Slayton and Hyatt to really build into those
other roles and to play those roles extremely well. And
you know, I'm excited even for like today, like at practice,
like I thought THEO Johnson really really impressed me today.
I thought he looked really good. He moves well, he's
got a big frame. You can definitely mix him up
(16:04):
with the formations and the personnel groupings. So for a
young football player, you know, THEO Johnson bleak neighbors. You know,
I think there's some really good pieces to build upon
here for this new York Giants offense.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Does that make it easier for Dable to game plan too?
Because eventually, oh, yeah, are going to you know, you
go into a game, the other team's gonna do the
old red sharpie on neighbors, right the circle for the
game plan focused on him. Does that then make it
easier for Dable to attack that team knowing that they're
going to be focused on neighbors?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah? And you know, and sometimes too, you know, it
goes both.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Ways, right where it's like, all right, let's be creative
to get our guy the ball, of course, and then
there's the times where like it doesn't matter, We're just
gonna give our guy the ball and we're still gonna
get it done, you know. And this is where like
I think Kyle Shanahan really taught me this when we're
in Atlanta with Julio Jones and you see him now
too in San Francisco with Deebo Samuel. Is that, Yeah,
they don't necessarily throw him the traditional like let's get
(16:56):
him open on an incut or this, like, no, let's
give him a reverse, Let's give him a speed reverse.
Let's give him you know, this little trick player this
screen or this and I think those are the plays
that we should see a little bit more of in
this Giants offense that we did not see a year ago,
which allows Leakue Neighbors in this offense to really kind
of spread the field out more than we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And I think the running game will be fine. I
know Sakua and Balky is a big loss, but given
I think your improved protection, teams are gonna have to
keep two safeties deep a lot more with Hyatt and
Neighbors out there. Then in Singletary is a professional running back.
And we'll see about the Tyrone Tracy injury. We don't
have any more details in that from today, right. Terrible
to see, Yeah, But I think the running game for
a coach that I think, like to your point earlier
(17:36):
from Buffalo, wants to throw to set up the run, right,
He's not run this up the pas half a guy,
He's the opposite. I think Sengletary is going to be
more than fine to run this offense what he wants
to run it.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, And I think Eric Gray has looked really good,
you know, for the few days that I've been here
at camp, and what I saw in the preseason game too.
He looks like he's playing super confident football. It seems
like he's getting downhill with like simple you know, cuts,
extremely fast, He's low to the ground, he's come pack player.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
He does a good job of catching out of the
backfield too.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So I feel like there's enough pieces here for this
offense to really start to you know, create a real identity.
And that really was I think the issue the past
few years is like what was the identity of the offense?
You know, it's like, oh, Saquon Barkley, It's all right,
that's great, But like with the struggling offensive line and
no weapons on the outside and playing from behind all
the time, and playing from behind, it's like, how can
(18:23):
we utilize one of the better running backs in the NFL. So,
you know, hopefully a little bit more dispersed offense, a
little more evenly, you know, distributed football, the protection again.
You know, now we'll see more athleticism out of our quarterback,
which we know that he had has and is capable of.
And I think that's where, you know, there should be
some really big strides for this football team. And really
(18:44):
just the depth at the offensive line position, all the positions,
I think is absolutely huge.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And veteran depth where you know what you're getting if
you bring the guys in.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
You love turf, you're good at it, so you start
a turf business, grows, your savings grow, become the most
celebrate name in terms, Are you ready for all that
life rings?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Final two questions realistic expectation you think for this offense
and this team in general heading into twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
For the offense, I mean, I don't really know how
to like, you know, how to label it, but I mean, hey,
it's it's got to be and it will be better
than it was a year ago.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
As far as the expectations for the football team, me
and Papa were talking about on serious XM just a
moment ago.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
But it's just like, you know, what's the over under.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I would say that, like, you know, fans in general,
we'd be thinking eight or nine wins, you know. But
I see this as a team that if we can
get off on a good start and kind of build
that confidence early on in the season and not fall
behind too early, you know, this is a team that
I think really can win nine, ten eleven wins and
kind of do what they did a year ago.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know two years ago.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Excuse me, and really shock some people, because I wouldn't
be shocked either if like the Cowboys or the Eagles,
you know, didn't necessarily live up to all the expectations
that we have from offseason. So there's something you know,
going on in the division. You know, the Cowboys there
seemed a little distraction. The Eagles, they always got something
going on really recently. So you know, for me, just
(20:11):
again being an optimistic Giants fan, excited for this football
team and really looking forward to the season.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Final question. We do a ton of draft stuff. Here
is one of our favorite times years. We did a
lot of these questions about the quarterbacks, right yere right,
Just curious to see what your expectations are for those
Gosh what it ended up being five first round quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Right? Yeah? Six? Six? Right? Nix was the six guy.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yes, I'm trying to remember all the guys had so
many of them is amazing, though, Yeah, what are your
kind of expectations for the group And who do you
think you're you're most excited for in their rookie year?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I mean, definitely Caleb Williams. I thought Caleb Williams. You know,
I haven't been doing this media thing for a very
long time. But just like I was so impressed with
his ability, his command, his his just the easiness in
which he plays such a difficult game, and how powerful
his arm is, how athletic he is, the leadership that
he has in the football fields, He got a football.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Players like you don't think that people about the accuracy.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
No doubt that too, that too, and that's you know,
so he's definitely up there. I was a huge fan
of Michael Pennix as well. I think, you know, the
cool thing is is that for all of us football
fans out there, we saw six guys in their first
preseason action look really really comfortable in the NFL, like
right from the start.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And that's where it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Like, these guys got a ton of reps in college,
they played a lot of big games. They essentially had
their franchises on their back even in college. And I
think all the coaches from around the league, whether it
was Denver, you know, in Atlanta, it didn't matter. It
seemed like all of them really did a great job
of preparing these young men to play extremely well in
the first week, and you know, really excited to see
(21:41):
what they do. But yeah, I'm excited to see you know,
Caleb Williams for sure. Jaden Daniels I think will absolutely
thrive in Washington and really, you know, build up that
that organization to where I think we were used to
seeing it and bring some excitement back to the division
with a well rounded quarterback division.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I know the SIMS crew wasn't guys weren't like members
of the Drake May fan club. I was a member
of the I think he's gonna be really good. So
I'm curious, toy.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I don't know what I wouldn't say that, you know,
But yeah, I think I did have him as like
my fifth ranked quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Right, yeah, he was my second. I had him at
a Daniels, which I know was unpopular.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, I just from watching the film, I think Drake
May is capable of being as good, if not better
than any of them in that group. But I still
thought that there was some rawness to the position.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I felt like there was some.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Inconsistencies as far as the way he looked in the pocket,
you know, being set up to throw to the route
that he was looking at. It seemed always to be
a little off at times.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And his accuracy was scattersh he was off and on
week to week.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And I think he was on a team too that
like necessarily wasn't like playing for like championships, and they
were kind of just like.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Kind of lent and fly. So I feel like that allowed.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Him to develop like some some bad habits, really some
habits that are not going to fly in the NFL, Like, Oh,
don't worry about that pick, We're gonna throw another.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Three times in this game, you know. So you know,
I think Drake is capable. I do. I believe that.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know, he's got that competitive spirit. You see that
in him when you when you watch him and hear
him talk and all those things. So for him, the
biggest thing is just there's no rush for him. Learn
from Jacoby Prissett, you know, do your best to absorb
as much as you can from a guy who's really
been through it all in the NFL, and just slowly build.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Into the position.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
The worst thing that could happen for him is like
exactly what happened with Zach Willson a year ago. Sit
learn from Aaron Rodgers. Oh, Aaron's hurt a right now,
you gotta be our guy again, you know. So that
really is I think the worst thing that can happen
for him. Get him reps in the preseason, doesn't matter
if they're ugly, learn from him, learn to be a
great pro from Japacoby Presset, and then you know, hopefully
he can become a great franchise quarterback for the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You take your time, especially the situation there with the
whiteouts and the offensive line is not the best. So
I don't, yeah, you want.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I mean, they're the same team.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I feel like as the Giants were a year ago
as well, like for this year, just they're trying to
figure out, like what what are we right? And offensive
lines a big problem. They have improved the skill.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Group a little bit. But yeah, well we'll see. It's
going to be an interesting year for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And I love the fact that three of these rookie quarterbacks Daniels, Knicks,
and Pennix, they're all like twenty four, Like, they're all experienced,
So you get hopefully some of these guys learn where
you can stay in college an extra couple of years
become a finished product. Yeah yeah, Like if Daniels comes
out last year, he's a fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, it's just it's crazy too that you know, my
father and I we discussed this multiple times on SIMS
complete Just why is it being more mature and more
experienced in the college game a detriment now all of
a sudden to transitioning to the NFL quarterbacks twenty four
when we just had a quarterback who retired at the
age of forty five, right, you know, and we're going
out of our way even more to protect the quarterback
(24:43):
each and every year. So I'm all for it. They
got a ton of experience, super talented group. Really wish
them the best, you know, even for JJ McCarthy, you know,
coming off this knee injury, now he played great, you know,
Excited to see where he goes. I mean, he's only
twenty one, twenty two years old, so he's experienced and
he's young, so he's kind of got both, you know,
(25:03):
aces up his sleeve. But you know, I think all
these guys really found great homes for themselves, and that's
really the biggest thing. You want to see them at
places that really appreciate their talent and want to help
that talent build into the future. And you know, I
think we're really fortunate as football fans to have this
young class coming.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Up one more time. Tell the folks think you'll find
everything you're doing.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, Sim's complete, available on YouTube wherever podcasts are available.
Me and Big Phil talking all things football, and you know,
him teasing his son about you know, what father sees
their sons about. So I'm sure I do my best,
you know, But he's the Super Bowl MVP. You know,
he's got a lot of leverage on me. You know,
I was just like a back of the Jets, So
I don't really have much, you know, but you know,
my father and I have a great time.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
We enjoy the game so much. The game has given
so much to our family.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Extremely grateful for every opportunity and to come to Giants
camp and to see my father there and to see
all the people just kind of, you know, surround them
like it's a campfire and listen to the stories and
everything that that generation went through. It's super special and
again a reminder too of just you know, how special
he was as an individual football player, how special those
teams were in the eighties and nineties, and again just
(26:08):
how special this organization is too. So, you know, extremely
grateful for the opportunity to be a part of of
that story.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You're going to drag Chris down here at some point
or is he just going to stay in Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
You know, yeah, I mean Chris, Chris is now, Chris
is the man. I mean the fact that my brother
is one of the better people in the media game
right now for for football and excited. He's got an
opportunity here for for college football this season as well.
So he's doing like the NBC you know, Game Day Show. Yes,
I know that he's got that coming up too. So yeah,
Big Christopher is doing his thing to hopefully fill in
(26:41):
the shoes that Big Phil left form. And uh, you know,
the good thing is is that they know what they're
talking about. They got great experience and they back it
up with facts. So yeah, you know, the Sims family
is doing their thing, and I'm just trying to hold
up my end of the bargain.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I gave you a chance to take a shot, your brother,
and you took the high road.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I took the ted Lasso approach.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah you know, so it's all good man, Citizen younger
brothers do.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
That's the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens.
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Speaker 2 (27:18):
We'll see you next time. Thank you appreciate it.
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