July 7, 2025 • 44 mins
On this episode of the Giants Huddle podcast, John Schmeelk is joined by the Giants offensive linemen. They discuss what they are working on this offseason, how they are gelling in different units, and where they can help improve the run and pass game.
:00 - Jermaine Eluemunor
5:00 - James Hudson
7:55 - John Michael Schmitz
13:09 - Andrew Thomas
18:38 - Jon Runyan Jr.
23:12 - Greg Van Roten
29:50 - Evan Neal
35:02 - Marcus Mbow
39:05 - Aaron Stinnie
41:45 - Jake Kubas
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time to get inside the Giants.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Let's Giants on the Giants Bubble, give me some Job,
part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's roll. We are
back for yet another edition of the Giants Little Podcast,
brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.
Today it's gonna be one of our longer player interview episodes.
We're gonna talk to the offensive line. We just put
these into two but since so many guys now play guard,
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play tackle, we decide to put them all into one show,
which means there's going to be a lot of them.
Because there are many offensive linemen on this roster. There's
competition for starting spots, for roster spots. It's a fun
group of guys, always good talking to the offensive line.
Here we go, all right, Now we're joined by Giants
offensive lineman Jermaine lumin or Jermain how ware you man?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Good good, it's been it's been a good spring.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So compare where this group, your offensive line unit is
today to where you were at this time last year
when you were a new coach. You showed up for
the first time, a bunch of new faces. But now
you've kind of been together for another year.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I would say it's kind of hard ar answer that
question until we get at back. You know, obviously answer
the old line is not complete without him, and he's
a big part of the offensive line, So until we
get him back, it's hard to really say how the
offensive line is doing.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I mean, in the spring, it was a good offense.
It was a good spring for the offensive line, you know,
going against the d line that we have probably one
of the best, if not the best, in the league.
And I'm sure that's show that once the past come
on in September. But it's hard to get a good
what's the word I'm looking for feel feel for the
offensive line because you know, Ryan is not any to
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starting left guard. GV is really not practicing too much.
Like the only starters we had out there truly were
me and JMS. So who is our senat Jomichael? So
it's hard to truly say how the offensive line is not. Mentally,
everyone's doing great. You know, everyone knows what we had
to accomplish this year and everyone's ready for their challenge.
So I mean that part is going really well.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Does it provide you an opportunity though, too for you
to get an opportunity to get that chemistry with other
players that maybe you normally wouldn't since other guys have
been in and out, you know, running just came back
and GVRS had veteran days and all that stuff where
you know it goes. The odds are that all five
of you guys are playing seventeen games eighteen. This is
not gonna happen. That's just not the reality of the league, right,
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So does it help to Kenneth? All right, I'm next
to Stinny right now. Now I'm next to Neil. Now,
I'm like, you know, whatever to get koubis where you
can get a fuel for different guys.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I think that it's always good to get more guys
in there so they get cust into playing at the
speed that we have to play in order to get
the job done on Sunday. You know, like I said,
for a good part of my careers with the twos,
and every time you got up there with the ones,
the way things are presented and just how you got
to think on the flying things just hit the fan
right away, and you know you have to know where
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you're going, who you're blocking, and who you're working with
right there and then, and it's just a lot of
bullets flying, and so to get those guys in there
and get them that type of experience, like working next
to me, working next to Schmidt, or whether it's on
the left side. You know, James Hutson is going to
be our smon tackle this year, So getting him in there,
getting him those solid reps and getting guards in that
playing next to him as well, or getting him next
to running it's definitely going to be huge too.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
When you guys were all healthy for six games last year,
I thought the UNI played well. I think you were
pretty happy to have the UNI played, right.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, I mean I think we want to.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean we were on the rise for sure, especially
because it took a little bit to get the chemistry
in it. But I definitely thought we were one of
the better offensive lines in the league.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I guess the reason I wanted to bring that
up is that I don't think you were a finished
product yet either, Like it was only six games, like,
so if you get that same five together, it could
even get better than what it was after those six games.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Right, I think that we were barely scraping the surface
with our offensive line. We played some really good defensive lines,
and you sure you saw our rush numbers and like
the sacks that we were limiting. And I think for
a good part of the season when all five vers
were in there, we're top of the lead for least
amount of sacks, pressures, hits and all those are a
good stats, so you know, and that just goes to
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show that when all five versa out there and we're
all clicking, it's hard to beat us. And so that's
why I'm excited to get those same five outs there
this year and just do what we can. You know,
we have a harder scheduling lead. We have a lot
of good defensive lines. But you know, I know they're
thinking how I am, and they're excited for the challenge.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
All right, final question we got guys waiting. You've had
a chance to block outdo Carter a bunch. Now there's
no pads, there's not a lot of contact, so your
experience is gonna be limited and you'll know more when
you get to the summer. From what you see from
just a physical skill set, do you get like third
overall pick?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, this guy's got it.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I think that I like going against him because I'm
going against a lot of guys like that this year,
who just brings speed to power and one thing I
want to improve on and my technique is blocking better
at speed and blocking speed like Burns. So I love
going against guys like that, But Abdou is going to
be a problem. In my opinion. I think that a
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lot of the a lot offensive lines are gonna struggle
to block him just because of his position horisatility and
where he can line up and how he can affect
the rusher. And then it's gonna single out certain guys
where it's like, you know, you're gonna try to double
team decks, okay, but then you're gonna leave burn or
Abdoor or Tims in the island where they're tackling. Obviously
they're great at their job. So I think that Abdua
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was going to help this d line of this defense
and this team be great this year for me.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Good stuff, man, appreciate it, dude, Thank you very much.
All right, now we welcome in Giants Tackle James Hilson. James,
what's going on man?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
That much?
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Man?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'm doing great? So you've had a ton of opportunity
to play with the ones in the spring here becaus
Andrew Thomas is still coming back from his injury. What
is that experience been like, you know, trying to work
with the guys with that first unit.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
It's been great, man. We're I feel like we're getting
things down each practice. We're getting better and you know,
we're just going out there and working and getting the
chemistry together.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No, I'm not tracking you every play, so I might
have missed this. Please correct me if I'm in correct.
I feel like you've been almost exclusively at left tackle
or have you gotten some right tackle snaps in as well?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's been exclusively left tackle?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, what has that been like for you? Kind of
just trying to lock in as the swing tackle you
got obviously be able to do both, but really at
this point just locking in on left tackle.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It has been cool.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
Man.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Last season I spent most of my time on the
left side, so you know last year was cut short
due to injury. But you know it was just picking
up right I left off, man, just you know, knocking
the rest off and you know, getting back used to
taking pass sets and you know, run blocking and everything
like that. So you know, it's just getting back used
to it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, is this just the only plan. I imagine once
you get to the to the summer, they're going to
make sure you're comfortable on the right side as well, too.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Correct, Yes, correct, I'll be working by both sides for sure, definitely.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So what has it been like going against this this
group of giants edge rushers, which are pretty darn talented
with with burns and tips and I do a part
of the rookie What has it been like going against
them in practice?
Speaker 7 (06:28):
They are definitely They're definitely good, man. They're definitely going
to have a hell of a year.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Man.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Those guys can rush the passer and I could just imagine,
you know, adding in ninety seven to that mix. Man,
it's go, it's go get crazy. So, uh, I can't
wait to see those guys get after the queue. Man,
that's a special group.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So as for the offensive line, they were turning a
lot of the same guys from last year. You're one
of the new guys. You're trying to fit in with
the group. How have they kind of welcome you in
and kind of vited you and got you into the
offensive line culture that they've kind of built you with Carlos.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
They really welcome me with open rs.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Man, those guys in that room, man, are their top
of the line guys, man, and love those guys already. Man,
I can't wait to, you know, just keep building a
relationship and you know, keep getting to know them hopefully
you know, meet their families, meet their kids, you know,
because I feel like that's that's huge on the offensive line,
you know, having that that chemistry and having that that
level of trust. Uh So, you know, I just can't
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wait to, you know, just continue this thing going and
keep getting better and keep learning the guys and you know,
building those relationships.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I know Calin Brisillo tends to try to meet guys halfway.
If there's something you're really comfortable doing, he will try
to fit into a scheme if he can. But how
is what you did in Cleveland kind of match similar
or different than what you're being asked to do here?
Speaker 7 (07:35):
It's pretty similar, man, It's not too much of you know,
a difference between the technique and everything that we're doing
here versus what I learned in Cleveland. You know, I
have Bill Callahan as my as my offensive line coach,
and you know, Karmez has addressed that, you know, he
he's gotten some of his things that he coaches now
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from from coach Caln So yeah, I mean it's it's
it's to carry over for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Really good James, good stuff. Man, appreciate the best luck
this year, my man, sir, thank you very much. And
now we're doing by Giant center John Michel Smitch jam
that's what's going on.
Speaker 9 (08:08):
Manson much man having a good have a good start
to the summer and looking forward to the season.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So when your season into the last year and you
look back at your year, what'd you think of it?
How did you evaluate it?
Speaker 9 (08:19):
Yeah, I mean you gotta be tough on yourself. I
mean we went back, looked at the film, watched it
and knew there was a room to improve and knew
that there was levels of my game that I needed
to focus on this offseason. And that's why and that's
what we put a focus too. Uh, talked talking with
the coaches and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So, yeah, what were some of the areas that you
kind of honed it on? Did the little red sharp
and you circled it that you really tried to lock
in on to try to get better on hitting into
your three?
Speaker 9 (08:47):
For you, Yeah, I would say, uh, in past protection,
just footwork, back there and then and uh, you talk
about the run game, just securing second level blocking and
getting up to the second level and just staying on
those blocks just a tad, just a tad longer than
I have been.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So, yeah, how valuable is it for you to have
two veteran guards next to you in running and Van
Roten you had him for most of last year. They're
both back again. What does that do for you as
a center?
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Yeah, I would say, I mean, they are tremendous players, definitely,
I have a veteran offensive line is a great thing.
They've been They've been around a lot, they know a
thing or two, and so it's nice when we get
into the room if we are talking about something, if
we're going back and forth to how we see this
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front and kind of pick their brains of just of
how to develop my brain as an offensive lineman in
my IQ.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
One of the biggest challenges I think for all centers
in the NFL. You know, you look at the depth
darts of two teams go up against each other. A
lot of times, if you're playing an odd front, you're
gonna have a guy that maybe outweighs you by forty
or fifty pounds lined up right on your nose right
and you have the snap you have to get. You
start with one hand and you get the second hand
them eventually. What are some of the things that you
try to lock in that you think are very important
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when you're dealing with those really big defensive tackles that
you got to block one on one in some of
these situations to be effective against those guys in pass
pro and in the one game.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Yeah, different ways that we can attack them. This all
starts during the start of the week, just talking about
the best runs for that sort of defense. So it
could be an outside zone if especially if I have
a head up nose, easy to climb up to second
level and let the guard. Basically you call it a scoop.
Scoop the nose and seal them off and see them off.
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So I would say that would be a good one
if you're looking at that, I mean, you talk about
just a big nose in front of you for pass protection.
Just if he's not really a shifty guy, then you're
more likely to jump set the guy. So get on
him right away, bring the fight to him, be more
aggressive in your past set. So it's just a little
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uh it's a little it's a little something that we
talk about during the week.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
That's interesting. How much how useful is it in the
summer going up against a guy like Decks. We'll be
in that position now. He's going to be a lot
more athletic than a lot of the guys. Yeah, yeah,
So talk about the challenge of and and how it
helps you having a chance to work against a guy
like Decks each each week in practice and during the summer.
Speaker 9 (11:25):
Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, he brings a great
challenge every time you go against him. So he's only
helping us get better as a as a line. So
and kind of just picking his brain of what he
looks for going against an offensive line and especially the interior,
how he reads the slide or something like that. So
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I would say he's really good at getting to your
hands and stuff. So I'll just say hand striking, replacement
of the hand of your paunch, all that all that
ties in just uh uh. Not a lot of people
really notice, uh what goes into pass protection.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
That's why I so.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Obviously, like we talked about before, your your feet play
as much as a big as role as your hands.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So you gotta have a good feed too.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right, final question, what have you learned working with
Russell Wilson in terms of identifying Yeah, what defense is
trying to do, protections, sliding protections and stuff like that.
What's it been like working with him? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (12:31):
I mean he's extremely smart. Love picking his brain, love
just talking with him, just talking ball on and off
the field. And he's just been a tremendous help to
this or to this team. And uh, he's very knowledgeable
to the game.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Got respect for him.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, John Michael, good stuff, man, appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
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Speaker 1 (13:19):
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Andrew Thomas at how are you man?
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I'm glad.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
How are you all right?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
So? First off, how's do we have gone this offseason?
That was pretty serious injury you had.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
How you feeling Yeah, I'm feeling good. Just taking my
time with it.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Don't really have a projection right now, but doing everything
that the Chinas are telling me, and you know, hopefully
I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, Giant fans what they're most concerned with. You think
week one of the season, you think you'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's the goal, but you know we're trying not to
make any prediction. It's just trying to get ready.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Absolutely, I went back after the injury happened. I tried
to find the play and I gotta saw the play.
Then you started living afterwards. But they didn't even seem to
be like a misstep, like this is something that happened
over the course of the game, Like when you look back,
like how did it even go down?
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Definitely a missed I felt. I felt it for sure,
and I was going against a really good pass rusher
Andre Son, So it happened. I think in the second
quarter we were in the red zone, just a normal
down block and you know it just went but obviously
stuck it out. Kind of hard hitded but that's you know,
that's the nature of an office alignment. So hopefully that
don't happen again.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
No, I absolutely not. Yeah. When I say misstap, I
mean you didn't step on somebody's foot. It wasn't it. It
just looked like a regular kicking. You know, it happens
when you try now and you're watching. How do you
try to help your group move along here and get
better even though you haven't been on the field in
the spring.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Yeah, I think I would say the benefit of this
year this offseason, we really didn't have much turnover, much change. Yeah,
a lot of veteran presence in the room. And then
you know with Karen and James, they do a great
job of teaching the guys. So we're just trying to
make sure we streamline everything, get on the same page.
Obviously it's just OTA, so it's not real football yet.
But we're still working on technique and watching film breaking
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down and I you know, get my input when I can't.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
When you look back at the last two injuries you've had,
I mean they're freak things like you're chasing down a
guy ahead a block kick, you know, the foot like
it's nothing that you can do in training to prevent that.
So mentally, how do you kind of get through that
and figure out how to prevent these things even though
in a lot of ways they're not preventable, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Yeah, it's definitely frustrating, but it's just a game. Injuries
are one hundred percent in the NFL, So just do
my best to prepare each each week, each day to
try to be ready to go. You can't control the outcome,
or you can control as your mindset and how you approach,
you know, getting better when something does happen. So that's
what I try to do.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
What do you think a good set of goals would
be for the offensive line as a group heading into
year two with Carmen Brisola. I'm sure it's nice having
the same coach and the same schemes and all that
to do a second year. What do you think a
good set of goals would be in and what do
you think this group can do being together now for
a second year with the same coach.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Yeah, so I think the first thing is continuity. Obviously,
we have a different quarterback room this year, so just
get on the same page and then I would say,
just collectively as an old line, just being more dominant upfront,
consistent in a run game, and doing really well protecting
the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's funny. We had Nate Solder here and he had
come from the Patriots to Tom Brady right right, and
I talked to him about it, and he goes, look,
I had to change the way I blocked for Eli
Manning versus Tom Brady just because of the depth of
their drops and how they operate in the pocket and
stuff like that. So how do you think it's going
to be different blocking for a guy like Russell Wilson
as compared to maybe what you've had so far here
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in your career.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Yeah, I think it will take some time to get
a fell and I think the same for him getting
a feel for the receivers.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And sure we've been working on a knens.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
You know, everybody does things a little bit differently, so
we're just trying to go on the same page. That's
what LTA's and campus for. And he's a very talented
quarterback and he's smart, so I'm excited to work with him.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
You talk about working with a smart quarterback that's been
through it for an offensive lineman, doesn't give you a
sense of comfort knowing that you have a quarterback back
there that has literally seen everything and has to help
you guys.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Yeah, for sure, it's like having a coach on the field.
Obviously he has a ton of experience. He's only try
to put us in the best opportunity possible. So that's
that's a good feeling as office A linement.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I gotta imagine. And then the run game last year,
I thought you guys made some great strides in terms
of creating space, and you did it with using a
lot of different schemes depending on the game. Sometimes it
was zoned, sometimes it was power. Sometimes we were pulling
guys duo, double teams, things like that. As the year
went along, what do you think that your group came
together the best of What were you doing best in
the run game as last season concluded?
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Yeah, I think last year, just dealing with the injuries,
it was a lot of turnover and I think that
that hurts the continuity. But I think towards the end
we were running duo really well. That's what I thought
to us, that's kind of like what we you know,
hang our hats on. We have physical guys up front,
so hopefully we can continue that this season.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We talk about blocking different quarterbacks, you have to block
different for running backs too, based on who's in the backfield.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Not really, I think we have a plethora of different
running backs that have different skills. But up front, we
try to approach it the same way. Just create space,
just let them do what they do exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Awesome for you personally. Once you get back on the
field and you're healthy, do you have any goals that
you've set out for yourself for this year that you're
trying to achieve.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Yeah, I'm going to be a captain again this year.
I think that's a big thing. And then obviously play
all the games. You know, the Giants get the suit up.
That's that's the main goal. I think if I'm out there,
I can perform at a high level.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
And I got to ask you this just because I
think the Giants might have the best edge group in
the in the whole division, and you guys have the
Super Bowl Championship division. I think that's how good this
edge group is. Are you looking forward to when you
get out there and you're healthy and you get the
pads onto, you know, block and burns, seeing what Abdul
Carter's got and just seeing what this defensive front is
as a whole is going to bring on Sundays.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Now, campus is going to be so fun. We're going
to get a test each and every day, but it's
going to prepare us for Sundays. So I'm definitely looking
forward to those matchups.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
At you men, appreciate you, dude, get healthy man, Thank you.
And now we're joined by Giants offensive woman John Running Junior.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
John.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
How are you man?
Speaker 11 (18:52):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So what was the rehabit situation like for you this offseason?
Kind of getting back on the field and getting ready
to go.
Speaker 11 (18:59):
Yeah, had surgery back in mid December and stayed up
here the whole off season. I have a great training staff,
great doctors and helped me along the way and slowly
made my way back transitioning into the weight room and
getting back on the field for OTAs and everything's been
smooth and feeling good and have had no setbacks and
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feeling healthy going into the season.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You know, offensive lineman can't do a ton of the springs.
Why was important for you to get back onto the
field for OTA and not just you know, wait, till
the end of July when training camp comes along.
Speaker 11 (19:33):
Yeah, it's good to be out there with the guys.
And we got a couple of new additions the offensive
line and just I mean, this is my second year
here with the team and still getting you know, those
individual and as many team reps as possible, just getting
that cohesiveness amongst everybody, and you know, get the good
you know, new year energy flowing and been enjoining out here.
(19:55):
We've had a great spring so far.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What are some of the things as an offensive line
you can do in a spring in the spring to
help chemistry, continuity and things like that that can benefit
you down the road.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:08):
Kind of in the classroom with Kush, Karm and James,
just really kind of dialing in our scheme and seeing
just like how people from you know, different you know,
football branches kind of how they seem this offense and
what we think best works for us going forward and
the type of offense we're going to be and the
type of the scheme we're going to run. So kind
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of getting that figured out and going out there and
applying it on the field against you know, we got
a really good defense out here, and it's been really
nice being able to you know, compete against them, and
this ota period and going forward just only going to
benefit us. And yeah, like I said, just the spring
and being with the new guys and being the alarm
is a new new energy, kind of refreshed and everybody's
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been really enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
At the same time, a lot of the same guys
coming back to I mean, there's a chance you could
have the same five and the same five spots starting
Week one that you had last year. What value does
that add when you're trying to put together this group
that works and acts as one when you're on the
field on game day.
Speaker 11 (21:11):
Yeah, last year early in the season, you know, I
feel like up front we played really well together when
we had our Week one starters out there, and about
a month in the season, you know, so you know,
what happened happened.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
And.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
Somet new guys that go in there. But I really
felt early on in the season, you know, we weren't
getting every single win that we had wanted, but I
felt like we were really building something with that unit
of you know, those five six guys that we have
playing up front and going forward, I only look, I
don't only see us expanding on that and getting even
better going forward.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
What do you think this team or your group specifically
does best in the run game. What do you think
your best scheme is in terms of moving guys are
just crazy as much space as you can in the
run game.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Yeah, I think this group is going to be very
pass protection unit. We have a bunch of quarterbacks back
there who very capable of getting the ball downfield, and
like you said, we kind of focused on this ot
a period, is trying to hone in on which scheme
kind of fits his best. And I think I think
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we're able to kind of do a lot of things
and what we'll really try to hone in that on
training camp and see what's really working. But we have
a really good feel going forward to what uh we're
gonna like to do throughout the whole season. And I
mean everything lives and dies in the NFL by pass protection,
So we're we're gonna we're gonna really hone in on
that and that's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Our bread and butter.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Finally, when you get the camp, are you looking forward
to going against this defensive line group? Is it got
really deep and really good over the offseason with all
the guys that added into that role.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
Sure, yeah, I remember uh looking over on the Instagram
in the off season seeing how many defensive linemen we sign,
free agents we signed, and you know, drafting Abdul is
gonna be a great addition and get everybody back healthy
on the defensive it's gonna be It's gonna be awesome
to face in training camp and just kind of build
us up up front and gonna get the most satisfaction
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when you see them out there, you know, being the
other offensive lines butts that we're playing against whatever week.
That is so excited looking forward to that part and
looking forward to grinding with them in training camp.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Thanks Jea, appreciate the man, of course, thank you. And
now we're joined by a Giants offensive lineman, Greg ven Rodin. Greg,
what's going on?
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Man?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Not much excited to be here, all right?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So let's second your back with the Giants. How thrilled
were you to get the call that you were gonna
be back and also not kind of coming in late
and being here during the spring too.
Speaker 12 (23:36):
Definitely happy to sign early in free agency, and there's
I think a huge benefit of just being on a
team during OTA's when you get to kind of be
around the guys and kind of help just kind of
get the ball rolling for the next season.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Now you've been doing this a long time. How valuable
is it for a team to be able to bring
back the same five starters and look, we'll see what
it looks like week one that you had in the
building last year.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It's huge.
Speaker 12 (24:01):
Like continuity is I think always talked about but maybe
slightly underrated. So we get a chance to see what
that looks like for our room this year where we're
bringing back a lot of the same guys. The whole
offense really is a lot of continuity, a lot of
familiar faces. So it's definitely exciting to be able to
kind of build and grow as an offense.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
What can fans look for from an offensive line when
they watch on a Sunday there at home? That shows
that you guys do have the continuity and it does
make a difference.
Speaker 12 (24:31):
I think as long as they're not doing close ups
of individual players for bad reasons, that's usually a good
sign for an offensive line. If we're if you can't
notice us, that's usually a good thing. And if you
do notice us, hopefully it's in the run game.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Fair I imagined the two things that would be bad signs,
right is issues with games, right, passing off stunts that
means continuity not where you want it to be. And
then free runners. Right, those are the two things that
you want to really avoid. I imagine right.
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Games specifically for offensive line. Yeah, that's definitely one hundred percent,
like something that we handle. Free runners can be a
combination of you know, scheme and communication, quarter back protection
calls with steahs could be maybe the back didn't scan
or something like that. So those things happen. They're not
always on the offensive line. Usually it's our job to
kind of set the table and then you know, we
go from there.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
What can you get out of the spring? You know,
there are no pads, there's not really any contact. So
what kind an offensive line the veteran like you with
your group together, what can you guys get out of
the spring work?
Speaker 12 (25:25):
I think it's a unique opportunity to kind of get
together and specifically work on like technique and then we
talk about setting together. So like, if you're by yourself
at home work on your PAS sets, that's one thing.
But if I'm with Jermaine and John Michael and work
together and we're talking about specific protection against a specific look, Hey,
like you need to be a little bit more vertical here,
or I need you to carry this guy a little
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bit more for me here. So just like little nuanced
things like that that we can kind of dial in
on this time of year make a huge difference in
this like fall when we're playing real football.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And it looks like carn Brisol has gone out of
his way to kind of mix in a bunch of
different guys with different groups. Is that so each unit
in case our injuries during the year can have chemistry
with each other.
Speaker 12 (26:06):
Yeah, I think guys are playing different spots, guys are
playing different lines. I think it's just we have a
lot of depth inside and we have a lot of
guys that we can play tackle too. So it's like
we want to get guys rolling, you know, playing together
so that they have that comfortability when maybe they're playing
next to each other in a game.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
One guy that's moved inside, he was outside for the
most part of his NFL career. He did it his
first year in college. Is playing guard as Evan Neil.
Have you worked with him and what has it been
like working with him trying to get reintegrated to the inside,
something that he had done previously.
Speaker 12 (26:37):
Switching positions is hard. When I was in college, I
played tackle. I got to the NFL, I was not
a tackle, so I moved to guard, and then after
my first few weeks, they started cross training me at center.
So definitely your world starts spinning a little bit when
you're trying to switch positions, and then in the NFL
just that much harder because you got guys that have
probably done it their whole careers at a specific spot,
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so hey, we got to learn something new. So it's
like the offense hasn't changed too much, but your technique
changes a ton, So you know, it's it's not an
easy thing to do, but we have a great offensive
line coach. We've got a really good room and a
lot of hands to help.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Now, moving from tackle to guard, obviously it's easier because
you have less distance to cover, but it's also a
lot more difficult because the guys right on top of you.
So what are some of the challenges that you're going
to face like you did when you're moving from tackle
into guard.
Speaker 12 (27:24):
Yeah, I would never use the word easy when I
talk about like sportific positions in the NFL. I just
think it's different whereas you know. I talked to Jermaine
about this, because Jermaine is someone who's played both guard
and tackle in the NFL, and he said that, like
he thinks, you have to block more athletic people on
the edge, but your world is a little bit smaller
where you don't have to see maybe the whole defense
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or the whole picture. When you play inside center guard,
they're definitely bigger dudes, but they're not as athletic as
the guys out on the edge. But you need to
make sure you see both sides of the street and
then the whole picture because there's not off and where
you're just I'm gonna block this guy and my job's done.
It's usually people are moving, defenses are shifting, they're blitzing,
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Safeties are in the box. So there's a lot going
on inside. And the closer you get to center, the
more you need to know how the center sees things
so that you can see things like he does.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
All right, I want ask you got the run game
real quick before we say goodbye. I think car and
Basolo did a great job last year. You guys did
everything right. You ran inside zone, outside zone, you did gap,
you did a lot of duo stuff late in the
year power. What's the challenge for an offensive lineman? You
have to be prepared for all those different types of
run schemes depending on what the opponent's going to show
you what might work that particular week.
Speaker 12 (28:35):
Definitely a challenge, but I also think it's an advantage
where a defense doesn't really know what they're going to
get out of us week to week. And I think
you know, there's definitely gonna be things that we specialize in.
Just given the stature of our offensive line. We're not
a bunch of huge guys, but we're very strong and athletic,
So with that, you're going to see a good amount
of zone. But we do run a good amount of
duo too, So it's kind of like, if you stop
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one thing or you say you're going to take something
away by game plan, we have this other tool in
our bag.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Finally, this group as a whole, you've been around some
really good offensive lines in your career. You've probably been
around someone that haven't worked out as well. What's the
ceiling of this group? If everything comes again, everything works
out what could this offensive line look like for Giant
fans when they tune in every Sunday.
Speaker 12 (29:13):
I think we have the ability to be very good
offensive line. I think people sometimes get hung up on
who was drafted where and experience and experience young guys whatever.
I just think that we have a group that works
well together. We have an O line coach that puts
us in good positions, and we have the ability to
go as far as we want to go.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Who's the next next head coach?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I don't know. Shouldn't fire tips in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
But I think I'm on board it.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, they seemed to be get denied by a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Good stuff, GVR, Thanks, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
My pleasure.
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Speaker 1 (30:00):
And now we're joined by Giants. Offensive lineman Evan Neil Evan,
how are you man?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I'm doing good man, great to be here all right?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
First things, First, tell me if I'm wrong, is this
your first heading into it off season where you're not
dealing with a serious injury recovery where you actually had
a full off season where you can pretty much just
worry about training and that's it.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
Well, my second season going into the NFL out didn't
have any injuries, didn't have anything. So it's my first
season since here two.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
How as much has that helped you knowing you're going
through a position change that you've only had to focus
on football and that's it.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
I think it's good. It's always great to go into
a season feeling healthy. I can get the most out
of my training, I can get the most out of
practicing on the field, and you know, not worry about
a nagging injury getting in the way of anything.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
What have you tried to do to help make that
position switch a little bit smooth? Obviously it's a position
you've played before, it's been a while, But what are
some things you've done this offseason to try to get
ready for that?
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Really, just stay on top of my health standing healthy
health is a big component. I do a lot of
work on my hip, so my range of motion and
my hips. Everything on offensive lineman does is out of
a bent squad position, so being able to access that
range of motion has been really good for me. And
since I've been back here with the Giants working in
no tas, just getting the field, getting back on the inside,
getting into a left guard stance, I think I've been
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getting better as the practices has been going on and
just gonna, you know, continue to develop.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Has it been a bigger adjustment moving inside or moving
back to the left side.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
That's a good question.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
Since I've been playing on the right side for the
past three years, you know, my gate kind of got
adjusted to, you know, being a right sided player. So
it's just a it took a little bit of TLC
as I like to call it, just getting back into
my left hand stance and getting my hips and my
gate shifted back to the left side. But you know
it's been coming along pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
You feel pretty good about it where you are, yeah,
I do. So what are the challenges that are unique
to playing guard versus the playing tackle?
Speaker 8 (31:53):
If you're asking me, it's all football, man, So it's
challenging playing offensive line in the NFL as it is,
But on the inside, you know, things are a lot
more physical on the inside. It's a lot more banging.
It's a lot more physical. You're putting a lot more gap, scheme, pools,
power plays, things of that nature, and things maybe happen
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a hair quicker on the inside, Uh, just picking up
blitzes and things of that nature. But you know, things
happen just as fast out at tackling my opinion as well.
So I'm just ready to embrace this new change and
go out and be the best that I can be.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
The guys are just lined up closer to you, right,
I mean, the these these three techniques are going to
be right on your shoulder. What do you have to
do to make sure you're ready for that quick contact
and then really bursting in getting to you right off
the snap? Is just that be really being aware of
the snap can and being ready to go as soon
as the ball snapped.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Percent It's a little bit easier because at that guard
you're right next to the center, so your peripheral vision
you can see the center. It's a bit easier, and yeah,
you have a guy right in front of you. The
thing I noticed about guard, especially in past protection, is
just having the ability to get your hands on the
before he can get to you. So things happen quicker
from that regard. But it's all about like reflexes and
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and reacting. So I've been feeling really good on the field,
like I've been adjusting well to that speed or whatever
you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
So, ex you probably don't have as many long players
at defensive tackle, right, Some of the edge you guys
have longer arms sometimes, So can you ruin utilize your
length well against some of these guys where you can
get your hands on them quick and kind of lock
them out, That can of give you an advantage playing inside.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
I mean, I'm not going to say that because I
mean you have big, physical, long guys on the inside.
I mean Dexter Lawrence was one of them. Whenever Leonard Williams,
he was another guy, big long armed guy. So if anything,
just being in close quarters and being able to get
your hands on a guy, that's that's going on.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
All right, final question, there's less room to maneuver, right.
You know, the first thing sometimes you got to worry
about if you line up against one of these speed
rushers you're playing tackle, is you got to get wide
enough on your kick. Right, you have a little less
room to cover at guard, right, has that been a
little bit of an adjustment with how you operate with
your feet on the inside, just because you have less
room to cover your operating a little bit more of
a phone booth tackle.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
I wouldn't say you needed to get wide. Some coaches
teach a forty five degree angle, some coaches teach vertical.
You know, it's all about getting your body in relation
to that way you can you know, mirror your defender.
You know, you can sit down on the bull rush,
or you know you can get them wide enough to
run them around the quarterback. You know that guard. You know,
things are pretty much on a lateral plane. You know
what I'm saying. You know, they teach us that tackles
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set the width of the pocket and guard set the
depth of the pocket. So from that perspective, those that's
the difference.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Finally, we talked past pro when you talk about the
run game and be an inside a guard, you mentioned
it being a very physical position. Right, you have to
pull a little bit sometimes too, maybe a little bit
whether you have to tackle. What are some of the
things that you're trying to tackle in your off season
training heading into camp when it's going to be a
lot more physical in the run game, playing inside rather
than now.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I've always been a pretty good run blocker. Yeah, so
I think that's one of my strengths in this game. So,
I mean, whenever the pass come on, I mean, it's
just time to go out there, stick your nose in it.
I Mean, it's nothing really you can train for in
the off season for that type of contact. So I'm
just ready to go out there and put the pads
on and get to work, have some fun.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
But we can't wait to see it that having good
stuff man, best of walking guard. Now we're joined by
a Giants offensive lineman, rookie Marcus. Marcus?
Speaker 11 (35:16):
What's up man?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
How you doing? So?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
How has NFL life been for the first three months?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
It's been great. I'm loving it.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Just loving being able to, you know, be a pro
every day and work on my craft and get better.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Now you've been primarily a right tackle, right, have you
gotten much work at some of the other spots?
Speaker 8 (35:30):
You know?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Have they really kind of just run to start at
the one spot to start?
Speaker 6 (35:33):
I've been playing a lot of you know, tackle left
and right left too.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
So, uh, but for the most part. I mean I've
been working everything, you know, staying fresh on whatever, so
ready to go.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
How has it been trying to learn car and Briscillo,
his system, his calls and kind of how he wants
you guys to operate.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
I think it's been, you know, pretty easy. I mean
I feel like Karen's a great coach. You know, he
does a good job of teaching us and relaying information
and you know, football is football, so it's not too hard.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I had a chance to talk to your defensive line
coast Marcus Johnson, right, he's with ohiose State now yep,
and uh talk to him about your about the h
the job you did, and he talked about how he
taught you a lot of different hand techniques or like
the one hand stad and stuff like that. Is that
one of the things that you really think you took
a lot of strides in when you're in college is
improving your handwork and getting those hands in the right spot.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Just being able to, you know, learn from a guy
who's done it and been at the you know, professional
level before. It's a tremendous help. And you know, just
taking all the techniques that I brought and seeing those
grow over time watching film and it definitely helped me
where I am.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
What are some of the things that Coach Priscillo and
Coach Frentz are kind of really honing in on with
you right now to try to get you better at
as you head into.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Your looking year.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Just making sure you know, all the technicalities are always
you know, ironed out and everything, all the kinks are good,
you know, just making sure the technique's perfect, and this
time here you want technique to be perfect so when
the bullets start flying, things can adjust a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Now you have such good feet, You're you're you're such
a good athlete. How do you thank you use that
athleticism in your footspeed to your advantage when you're out
there at tackling.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Oh, I mean it's you know, one of the biggest
parts of my game, you know, being able to analyze
and beat defenders to where they want to be and
being able to you know, utilize my quickness to get there.
Sometimes I feel like, you know, it kills me too
much too, you know, trying to be too fast and
you know what I'm saying, overrunning and where I need
to be sometimes, so being able to find the healthy
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balance of it.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
In the run game, were are you most comfortable you
like running zone? Do you like you know, I know
you're not a guard right now, but poll, duo stuff,
what do you like do it?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
In terms of run game, I mean really putting people
on the ground, whatever it takes. Zone blocking is always fun,
just being able to get later on run. I think
there's a lot of things that you can do when
it comes to zone blocking, but run blocking is run blocking.
At the end of the day, you just stuff your
knows on somebody and dry.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
David Deal was one of our old school offensive lineman
and he always said moving a man from point A
to point B against his will, and that's how we
described offensive line, which I thought was very appropriate.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
I feel like that's a very viral urn when it
comes to offensive line play.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I don't spend enough time with the internet, which which
is which I think is a good thing. Have you
set any goals out for yourself this year in terms
of you know, I'm not talking about metrics, playing time, whatever,
just things that you really want to kind of take
this next, take the next step in and become better during.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Your rookie year.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Yeah, I mean I feel like every day is a
new battle is in itself, trying to you know, just
continue each day no matter what. It really is, just
trying to get better at a single thing each day.
But uh, I mean, technique and footwork is always at
the forefront of my mind. I feel like you went
with your feet.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
So have you noticed any like a big jump in
the in the level of competition going because you were
in the Big ten that's like real deal football. But
just seeing you know, Brian Burns every day, Dual Carter
obviously he was a was at Penn State when you
were there. You know, guys like Cavon Tibadau. What is
that jumping competition been like for you?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Oh, it's it's it's great to see.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
I mean I was excited for it, to be honest,
coming out of college. I was ready to go against
you know, better competition week in week out and you know,
get those reps. But I mean it's been it's been
great to see. You know, it hasn't been too hard
to adjust to, so it's been good. It's been good.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
You're looking forward to seeing what it's like once the
pad comes on and it was like full real, like
like like real deal football. No, no, for sure, all right,
awesome Marcus, good stuff. Then I appreciate you, thank you,
and now we welcome in Giants offensive line and Aaron Stinty. Aaron,
what's going on?
Speaker 11 (39:17):
Man?
Speaker 8 (39:18):
Not much?
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Man, telling how you doing?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm doing great? Were you excited to be able to,
you know, get back here with a lot of the
same guys, same offensive line coach for a second straight year?
Speaker 13 (39:25):
Most definitely got got a great group of guys, great coach,
you know, excited to get back in, get back to
work with the guys.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
What can that do for a group when you have
the same coach and for the most part, the same
guys in the room for two straight years.
Speaker 13 (39:37):
Yeah, I mean I think it's huge.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
Man.
Speaker 13 (39:39):
You know, when it comes to offensive line, a huge
piece of it is, you know, that chemistry that bond,
that brotherhood in that room. So you know, to have
a lot of guys coming back to keep a lot
of the same piece as you know, it really just
deepens that chemistry and allows everybody to you know, feel
comfortable and know that that guy already has their back
because you know they already got that bond.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It's probably weird for me ask you this questions cifically,
But I see you guys interacting. Are you the funniest
guy in the offensive line room?
Speaker 13 (40:05):
You know who knows you're pretty funny? I appreciate that.
I appreciate that. You know, if you want to give
if they want to give me that, I'll take it.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
What is the inter going back and forth in that room?
Speaker 12 (40:18):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
What is the intercommunication?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
How do you guys kind of go back and forth
and help each other in their room when you're watching
film together and trying to get better.
Speaker 13 (40:25):
Oh, it's huge, man, you know it's it's definitely just
a family environmental brotherhood environment. You know, everybody coaches up, everybody,
everybody you know takes a note of whatever one guy's
getting taught. And then you know, we have a lot
of vets in the room now, a lot of young
guys in so you know, you can trickle that information down.
Nobody takes any hard feelings, and you know, we just
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we just run it as a good group of guys. Man,
just it kick it away.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
We need to kick it.
Speaker 13 (40:51):
You know, nobody takes anything hard feelings and then you
just move forward. And keep getting better.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Hey, you Evan and Kubis have really been rotating at
that guard spot right in that with the ones, twos
and kind of back and forth. Is that a good
thing to get experience with a lot of different groups
of linemen over the course of the spring before the
pads on, just so you can just be with them.
Speaker 13 (41:10):
Yeah, I mean, you know that definitely helps you because
you know, you're you're able to have different guys playing
with different guys, and you know that just helps the
build that again, that that chemistry and that continuity on
the line. You know, that's that's huge when it comes
to there, and so you know, it just allows different
guys to get reps with more and more people, and
you know that that just helps deepen the bond on it.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Finally, you talked about helping guys along. Evans, the guy
that's making a transition from the outside to the inside.
What has it been like trying to get him back
into the motive playing guard of something he did as
a freshman back in Alabama a long time ago. What
has it been like trying to reintegrate him back into
the interior part of the offensive line.
Speaker 13 (41:44):
Yeah, you know, man, Evan Evan's a great guy, great,
great hard worker. You know, he's put his head down
into the books and you know he's really getting after it.
So it's been great to watch him do that as well.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
A good stuff man. We appreciate the time. And now
we're joined by giants Offensive Lineman, Jake Coubis, Jake Hawai,
Ben Good with yourself, So heading into your number two,
what kind of goals have you set forth for yourself
in terms of where you want to improve and get better?
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Yeah, I don't I don't know if there's uh, you know,
specific category, maybe more consistent in the past protection world,
but overall, just keep improving every day. I mean, at
the end of the day, that's my goal every single
day I wake up is try to find something to
get better at and try to keep improving at the
end of the day. If you're doing that in life,
you're doing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Getting better every day.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Any specific technique, stuff that you had on your checklist
that you wanted to get better.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
At, Yeah, probably just just being more consistent in my sense,
you know, just being more detailed with it.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
You know at the FCS level.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Coming from the FCS level, you can be uh, you
can get away with some bad habits with the with
the level competition you're going against at times, so it's
kind of getting rid of those and you know, just
being really really conscientious about it every day and just
trying to hammer that hammer that out.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
In the spring, they've rotated a bunch of you guys
in and out with the different groups. Sometimes you go
with the first team, sometimes second team, moving around. What
is that like for you? Trying to build chemistry with
different guys and different groups and just trying to kind
of get things going so you're ready to hit the
ground running.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
In the c it's been great. I mean, I think
we all have, you know, returning the majority of our guys,
we all have pretty good chemistry with one another. And
you know, I don't I don't think it hurts to
have that. You know, it's somebody's bound to go down.
It's football.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
It's a violent game.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
So you're gonna have to figure that out as the
season goes on, and the more continuity you have with
different guys, the better off will be as an offensive
line units the season goes on.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
How much has helped you as an individual being with
the same offensive line coach for the second straight year,
so you're reinforcing what he taught you last year instead
of learning things from scratch.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Absolutely, Carmen Carmen James have been unbelievable, you know, giving
me an opportunity first of all, and then you know,
being really willing and open to coaching me every day.
You know, some coaches will let some stuff fly, you know,
whether it's you know, seven eight year vet and they've
been doing it like this for however long and you
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know it works for them, so they let it go.
And they've been really good about keeping me disciplined and
keeping me on top of things in terms of techniques
and fundamentals and stuff like that. So they've been great.
And then they're great exces and old minds when it
comes to football, like they just they understand how everything
fits together and they do a great job of communicating
that to all of us. And you know, having them
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for a second year here is gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Jake, good stuff, man. I really appreciate thanks so much
of the time. Appreciate you always good to talk to
the big fellows the offensive line as they try to
protect Russell Wilson the Giants quarterbacks and make room in
the run game for the Giants running backs as well.
That's all the time me after the Giants. Little podcast
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Let's Giants on the Giants Bubble, give me some Job,
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Today it's gonna be one of our longer player interview episodes.
We're gonna talk to the offensive line. We just put
these into two but since so many guys now play guard,
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play tackle, we decide to put them all into one show,
which means there's going to be a lot of them.
Because there are many offensive linemen on this roster. There's
competition for starting spots, for roster spots. It's a fun
group of guys, always good talking to the offensive line.
Here we go, all right, Now we're joined by Giants
offensive lineman Jermaine lumin or Jermain how ware you man?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Good good, it's been it's been a good spring.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So compare where this group, your offensive line unit is
today to where you were at this time last year
when you were a new coach. You showed up for
the first time, a bunch of new faces. But now
you've kind of been together for another year.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I would say it's kind of hard ar answer that
question until we get at back. You know, obviously answer
the old line is not complete without him, and he's
a big part of the offensive line, So until we
get him back, it's hard to really say how the
offensive line is doing.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I mean, in the spring, it was a good offense.
It was a good spring for the offensive line, you know,
going against the d line that we have probably one
of the best, if not the best, in the league.
And I'm sure that's show that once the past come
on in September. But it's hard to get a good
what's the word I'm looking for feel feel for the
offensive line because you know, Ryan is not any to
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starting left guard. GV is really not practicing too much.
Like the only starters we had out there truly were
me and JMS. So who is our senat Jomichael? So
it's hard to truly say how the offensive line is not. Mentally,
everyone's doing great. You know, everyone knows what we had
to accomplish this year and everyone's ready for their challenge.
So I mean that part is going really well.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Does it provide you an opportunity though, too for you
to get an opportunity to get that chemistry with other
players that maybe you normally wouldn't since other guys have
been in and out, you know, running just came back
and GVRS had veteran days and all that stuff where
you know it goes. The odds are that all five
of you guys are playing seventeen games eighteen. This is
not gonna happen. That's just not the reality of the league, right,
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So does it help to Kenneth? All right, I'm next
to Stinny right now. Now I'm next to Neil. Now,
I'm like, you know, whatever to get koubis where you
can get a fuel for different guys.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I think that it's always good to get more guys
in there so they get cust into playing at the
speed that we have to play in order to get
the job done on Sunday. You know, like I said,
for a good part of my careers with the twos,
and every time you got up there with the ones,
the way things are presented and just how you got
to think on the flying things just hit the fan
right away, and you know you have to know where
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you're going, who you're blocking, and who you're working with
right there and then, and it's just a lot of
bullets flying, and so to get those guys in there
and get them that type of experience, like working next
to me, working next to Schmidt, or whether it's on
the left side. You know, James Hutson is going to
be our smon tackle this year, So getting him in there,
getting him those solid reps and getting guards in that
playing next to him as well, or getting him next
to running it's definitely going to be huge too.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
When you guys were all healthy for six games last year,
I thought the UNI played well. I think you were
pretty happy to have the UNI played, right.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, I mean I think we want to.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean we were on the rise for sure, especially
because it took a little bit to get the chemistry
in it. But I definitely thought we were one of
the better offensive lines in the league.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I guess the reason I wanted to bring that
up is that I don't think you were a finished
product yet either, Like it was only six games, like,
so if you get that same five together, it could
even get better than what it was after those six games.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Right, I think that we were barely scraping the surface
with our offensive line. We played some really good defensive lines,
and you sure you saw our rush numbers and like
the sacks that we were limiting. And I think for
a good part of the season when all five vers
were in there, we're top of the lead for least
amount of sacks, pressures, hits and all those are a
good stats, so you know, and that just goes to
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show that when all five versa out there and we're
all clicking, it's hard to beat us. And so that's
why I'm excited to get those same five outs there
this year and just do what we can. You know,
we have a harder scheduling lead. We have a lot
of good defensive lines. But you know, I know they're
thinking how I am, and they're excited for the challenge.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
All right, final question we got guys waiting. You've had
a chance to block outdo Carter a bunch. Now there's
no pads, there's not a lot of contact, so your
experience is gonna be limited and you'll know more when
you get to the summer. From what you see from
just a physical skill set, do you get like third
overall pick?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, this guy's got it.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I think that I like going against him because I'm
going against a lot of guys like that this year,
who just brings speed to power and one thing I
want to improve on and my technique is blocking better
at speed and blocking speed like Burns. So I love
going against guys like that, But Abdou is going to
be a problem. In my opinion. I think that a
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lot of the a lot offensive lines are gonna struggle
to block him just because of his position horisatility and
where he can line up and how he can affect
the rusher. And then it's gonna single out certain guys
where it's like, you know, you're gonna try to double
team decks, okay, but then you're gonna leave burn or
Abdoor or Tims in the island where they're tackling. Obviously
they're great at their job. So I think that Abdua
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was going to help this d line of this defense
and this team be great this year for me.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Good stuff, man, appreciate it, dude, Thank you very much.
All right, now we welcome in Giants Tackle James Hilson. James,
what's going on man?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
That much?
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Man?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'm doing great? So you've had a ton of opportunity
to play with the ones in the spring here becaus
Andrew Thomas is still coming back from his injury. What
is that experience been like, you know, trying to work
with the guys with that first unit.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
It's been great, man. We're I feel like we're getting
things down each practice. We're getting better and you know,
we're just going out there and working and getting the
chemistry together.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No, I'm not tracking you every play, so I might
have missed this. Please correct me if I'm in correct.
I feel like you've been almost exclusively at left tackle
or have you gotten some right tackle snaps in as well?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's been exclusively left tackle?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, what has that been like for you? Kind of
just trying to lock in as the swing tackle you
got obviously be able to do both, but really at
this point just locking in on left tackle.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It has been cool.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
Man.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Last season I spent most of my time on the
left side, so you know last year was cut short
due to injury. But you know it was just picking
up right I left off, man, just you know, knocking
the rest off and you know, getting back used to
taking pass sets and you know, run blocking and everything
like that. So you know, it's just getting back used
to it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, is this just the only plan. I imagine once
you get to the to the summer, they're going to
make sure you're comfortable on the right side as well, too.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Correct, Yes, correct, I'll be working by both sides for sure, definitely.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So what has it been like going against this this
group of giants edge rushers, which are pretty darn talented
with with burns and tips and I do a part
of the rookie What has it been like going against
them in practice?
Speaker 7 (06:28):
They are definitely They're definitely good, man. They're definitely going
to have a hell of a year.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Man.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Those guys can rush the passer and I could just imagine,
you know, adding in ninety seven to that mix. Man,
it's go, it's go get crazy. So, uh, I can't
wait to see those guys get after the queue. Man,
that's a special group.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So as for the offensive line, they were turning a
lot of the same guys from last year. You're one
of the new guys. You're trying to fit in with
the group. How have they kind of welcome you in
and kind of vited you and got you into the
offensive line culture that they've kind of built you with Carlos.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
They really welcome me with open rs.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Man, those guys in that room, man, are their top
of the line guys, man, and love those guys already. Man,
I can't wait to, you know, just keep building a
relationship and you know, keep getting to know them hopefully
you know, meet their families, meet their kids, you know,
because I feel like that's that's huge on the offensive line,
you know, having that that chemistry and having that that
level of trust. Uh So, you know, I just can't
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wait to, you know, just continue this thing going and
keep getting better and keep learning the guys and you know,
building those relationships.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I know Calin Brisillo tends to try to meet guys halfway.
If there's something you're really comfortable doing, he will try
to fit into a scheme if he can. But how
is what you did in Cleveland kind of match similar
or different than what you're being asked to do here?
Speaker 7 (07:35):
It's pretty similar, man, It's not too much of you know,
a difference between the technique and everything that we're doing
here versus what I learned in Cleveland. You know, I
have Bill Callahan as my as my offensive line coach,
and you know, Karmez has addressed that, you know, he
he's gotten some of his things that he coaches now
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from from coach Caln So yeah, I mean it's it's
it's to carry over for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Really good James, good stuff. Man, appreciate the best luck
this year, my man, sir, thank you very much. And
now we're doing by Giant center John Michel Smitch jam
that's what's going on.
Speaker 9 (08:08):
Manson much man having a good have a good start
to the summer and looking forward to the season.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So when your season into the last year and you
look back at your year, what'd you think of it?
How did you evaluate it?
Speaker 9 (08:19):
Yeah, I mean you gotta be tough on yourself. I
mean we went back, looked at the film, watched it
and knew there was a room to improve and knew
that there was levels of my game that I needed
to focus on this offseason. And that's why and that's
what we put a focus too. Uh, talked talking with
the coaches and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So, yeah, what were some of the areas that you
kind of honed it on? Did the little red sharp
and you circled it that you really tried to lock
in on to try to get better on hitting into
your three?
Speaker 9 (08:47):
For you, Yeah, I would say, uh, in past protection,
just footwork, back there and then and uh, you talk
about the run game, just securing second level blocking and
getting up to the second level and just staying on
those blocks just a tad, just a tad longer than
I have been.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So, yeah, how valuable is it for you to have
two veteran guards next to you in running and Van
Roten you had him for most of last year. They're
both back again. What does that do for you as
a center?
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Yeah, I would say, I mean, they are tremendous players, definitely,
I have a veteran offensive line is a great thing.
They've been They've been around a lot, they know a
thing or two, and so it's nice when we get
into the room if we are talking about something, if
we're going back and forth to how we see this
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front and kind of pick their brains of just of
how to develop my brain as an offensive lineman in
my IQ.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
One of the biggest challenges I think for all centers
in the NFL. You know, you look at the depth
darts of two teams go up against each other. A
lot of times, if you're playing an odd front, you're
gonna have a guy that maybe outweighs you by forty
or fifty pounds lined up right on your nose right
and you have the snap you have to get. You
start with one hand and you get the second hand
them eventually. What are some of the things that you
try to lock in that you think are very important
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when you're dealing with those really big defensive tackles that
you got to block one on one in some of
these situations to be effective against those guys in pass
pro and in the one game.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Yeah, different ways that we can attack them. This all
starts during the start of the week, just talking about
the best runs for that sort of defense. So it
could be an outside zone if especially if I have
a head up nose, easy to climb up to second
level and let the guard. Basically you call it a scoop.
Scoop the nose and seal them off and see them off.
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So I would say that would be a good one
if you're looking at that, I mean, you talk about
just a big nose in front of you for pass protection.
Just if he's not really a shifty guy, then you're
more likely to jump set the guy. So get on
him right away, bring the fight to him, be more
aggressive in your past set. So it's just a little
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uh it's a little it's a little something that we
talk about during the week.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
That's interesting. How much how useful is it in the
summer going up against a guy like Decks. We'll be
in that position now. He's going to be a lot
more athletic than a lot of the guys. Yeah, yeah,
So talk about the challenge of and and how it
helps you having a chance to work against a guy
like Decks each each week in practice and during the summer.
Speaker 9 (11:25):
Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, he brings a great
challenge every time you go against him. So he's only
helping us get better as a as a line. So
and kind of just picking his brain of what he
looks for going against an offensive line and especially the interior,
how he reads the slide or something like that. So
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I would say he's really good at getting to your
hands and stuff. So I'll just say hand striking, replacement
of the hand of your paunch, all that all that
ties in just uh uh. Not a lot of people
really notice, uh what goes into pass protection.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
That's why I so.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Obviously, like we talked about before, your your feet play
as much as a big as role as your hands.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So you gotta have a good feed too.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right, final question, what have you learned working with
Russell Wilson in terms of identifying Yeah, what defense is
trying to do, protections, sliding protections and stuff like that.
What's it been like working with him? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (12:31):
I mean he's extremely smart. Love picking his brain, love
just talking with him, just talking ball on and off
the field. And he's just been a tremendous help to
this or to this team. And uh, he's very knowledgeable
to the game.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Got respect for him.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, John Michael, good stuff, man, appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
All right, thank you.
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Andrew Thomas at how are you man?
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I'm glad.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
How are you all right?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
So? First off, how's do we have gone this offseason?
That was pretty serious injury you had.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
How you feeling Yeah, I'm feeling good. Just taking my
time with it.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Don't really have a projection right now, but doing everything
that the Chinas are telling me, and you know, hopefully
I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, Giant fans what they're most concerned with. You think
week one of the season, you think you'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's the goal, but you know we're trying not to
make any prediction. It's just trying to get ready.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Absolutely, I went back after the injury happened. I tried
to find the play and I gotta saw the play.
Then you started living afterwards. But they didn't even seem to
be like a misstep, like this is something that happened
over the course of the game, Like when you look back,
like how did it even go down?
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Definitely a missed I felt. I felt it for sure,
and I was going against a really good pass rusher
Andre Son, So it happened. I think in the second
quarter we were in the red zone, just a normal
down block and you know it just went but obviously
stuck it out. Kind of hard hitded but that's you know,
that's the nature of an office alignment. So hopefully that
don't happen again.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
No, I absolutely not. Yeah. When I say misstap, I
mean you didn't step on somebody's foot. It wasn't it. It
just looked like a regular kicking. You know, it happens
when you try now and you're watching. How do you
try to help your group move along here and get
better even though you haven't been on the field in
the spring.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Yeah, I think I would say the benefit of this
year this offseason, we really didn't have much turnover, much change. Yeah,
a lot of veteran presence in the room. And then
you know with Karen and James, they do a great
job of teaching the guys. So we're just trying to
make sure we streamline everything, get on the same page.
Obviously it's just OTA, so it's not real football yet.
But we're still working on technique and watching film breaking
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down and I you know, get my input when I can't.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
When you look back at the last two injuries you've had,
I mean they're freak things like you're chasing down a
guy ahead a block kick, you know, the foot like
it's nothing that you can do in training to prevent that.
So mentally, how do you kind of get through that
and figure out how to prevent these things even though
in a lot of ways they're not preventable, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Yeah, it's definitely frustrating, but it's just a game. Injuries
are one hundred percent in the NFL, So just do
my best to prepare each each week, each day to
try to be ready to go. You can't control the outcome,
or you can control as your mindset and how you approach,
you know, getting better when something does happen. So that's
what I try to do.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
What do you think a good set of goals would
be for the offensive line as a group heading into
year two with Carmen Brisola. I'm sure it's nice having
the same coach and the same schemes and all that
to do a second year. What do you think a
good set of goals would be in and what do
you think this group can do being together now for
a second year with the same coach.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Yeah, so I think the first thing is continuity. Obviously,
we have a different quarterback room this year, so just
get on the same page and then I would say,
just collectively as an old line, just being more dominant upfront,
consistent in a run game, and doing really well protecting
the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's funny. We had Nate Solder here and he had
come from the Patriots to Tom Brady right right, and
I talked to him about it, and he goes, look,
I had to change the way I blocked for Eli
Manning versus Tom Brady just because of the depth of
their drops and how they operate in the pocket and
stuff like that. So how do you think it's going
to be different blocking for a guy like Russell Wilson
as compared to maybe what you've had so far here
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in your career.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Yeah, I think it will take some time to get
a fell and I think the same for him getting
a feel for the receivers.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And sure we've been working on a knens.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
You know, everybody does things a little bit differently, so
we're just trying to go on the same page. That's
what LTA's and campus for. And he's a very talented
quarterback and he's smart, so I'm excited to work with him.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
You talk about working with a smart quarterback that's been
through it for an offensive lineman, doesn't give you a
sense of comfort knowing that you have a quarterback back
there that has literally seen everything and has to help
you guys.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Yeah, for sure, it's like having a coach on the field.
Obviously he has a ton of experience. He's only try
to put us in the best opportunity possible. So that's
that's a good feeling as office A linement.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I gotta imagine. And then the run game last year,
I thought you guys made some great strides in terms
of creating space, and you did it with using a
lot of different schemes depending on the game. Sometimes it
was zoned, sometimes it was power. Sometimes we were pulling
guys duo, double teams, things like that. As the year
went along, what do you think that your group came
together the best of What were you doing best in
the run game as last season concluded?
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Yeah, I think last year, just dealing with the injuries,
it was a lot of turnover and I think that
that hurts the continuity. But I think towards the end
we were running duo really well. That's what I thought
to us, that's kind of like what we you know,
hang our hats on. We have physical guys up front,
so hopefully we can continue that this season.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We talk about blocking different quarterbacks, you have to block
different for running backs too, based on who's in the backfield.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Not really, I think we have a plethora of different
running backs that have different skills. But up front, we
try to approach it the same way. Just create space,
just let them do what they do exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Awesome for you personally. Once you get back on the
field and you're healthy, do you have any goals that
you've set out for yourself for this year that you're
trying to achieve.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Yeah, I'm going to be a captain again this year.
I think that's a big thing. And then obviously play
all the games. You know, the Giants get the suit up.
That's that's the main goal. I think if I'm out there,
I can perform at a high level.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
And I got to ask you this just because I
think the Giants might have the best edge group in
the in the whole division, and you guys have the
Super Bowl Championship division. I think that's how good this
edge group is. Are you looking forward to when you
get out there and you're healthy and you get the
pads onto, you know, block and burns, seeing what Abdul
Carter's got and just seeing what this defensive front is
as a whole is going to bring on Sundays.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Now, campus is going to be so fun. We're going
to get a test each and every day, but it's
going to prepare us for Sundays. So I'm definitely looking
forward to those matchups.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
At you men, appreciate you, dude, get healthy man, Thank you.
And now we're joined by Giants offensive woman John Running Junior.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
John.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
How are you man?
Speaker 11 (18:52):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So what was the rehabit situation like for you this offseason?
Kind of getting back on the field and getting ready
to go.
Speaker 11 (18:59):
Yeah, had surgery back in mid December and stayed up
here the whole off season. I have a great training staff,
great doctors and helped me along the way and slowly
made my way back transitioning into the weight room and
getting back on the field for OTAs and everything's been
smooth and feeling good and have had no setbacks and
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feeling healthy going into the season.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You know, offensive lineman can't do a ton of the springs.
Why was important for you to get back onto the
field for OTA and not just you know, wait, till
the end of July when training camp comes along.
Speaker 11 (19:33):
Yeah, it's good to be out there with the guys.
And we got a couple of new additions the offensive
line and just I mean, this is my second year
here with the team and still getting you know, those
individual and as many team reps as possible, just getting
that cohesiveness amongst everybody, and you know, get the good
you know, new year energy flowing and been enjoining out here.
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We've had a great spring so far.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What are some of the things as an offensive line
you can do in a spring in the spring to
help chemistry, continuity and things like that that can benefit
you down the road.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:08):
Kind of in the classroom with Kush, Karm and James,
just really kind of dialing in our scheme and seeing
just like how people from you know, different you know,
football branches kind of how they seem this offense and
what we think best works for us going forward and
the type of offense we're going to be and the
type of the scheme we're going to run. So kind
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of getting that figured out and going out there and
applying it on the field against you know, we got
a really good defense out here, and it's been really
nice being able to you know, compete against them, and
this ota period and going forward just only going to
benefit us. And yeah, like I said, just the spring
and being with the new guys and being the alarm
is a new new energy, kind of refreshed and everybody's
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been really enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
At the same time, a lot of the same guys
coming back to I mean, there's a chance you could
have the same five and the same five spots starting
Week one that you had last year. What value does
that add when you're trying to put together this group
that works and acts as one when you're on the
field on game day.
Speaker 11 (21:11):
Yeah, last year early in the season, you know, I
feel like up front we played really well together when
we had our Week one starters out there, and about
a month in the season, you know, so you know,
what happened happened.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
And.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
Somet new guys that go in there. But I really
felt early on in the season, you know, we weren't
getting every single win that we had wanted, but I
felt like we were really building something with that unit
of you know, those five six guys that we have
playing up front and going forward, I only look, I
don't only see us expanding on that and getting even
better going forward.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
What do you think this team or your group specifically
does best in the run game. What do you think
your best scheme is in terms of moving guys are
just crazy as much space as you can in the
run game.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Yeah, I think this group is going to be very
pass protection unit. We have a bunch of quarterbacks back
there who very capable of getting the ball downfield, and
like you said, we kind of focused on this ot
a period, is trying to hone in on which scheme
kind of fits his best. And I think I think
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we're able to kind of do a lot of things
and what we'll really try to hone in that on
training camp and see what's really working. But we have
a really good feel going forward to what uh we're
gonna like to do throughout the whole season. And I
mean everything lives and dies in the NFL by pass protection,
So we're we're gonna we're gonna really hone in on
that and that's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Our bread and butter.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Finally, when you get the camp, are you looking forward
to going against this defensive line group? Is it got
really deep and really good over the offseason with all
the guys that added into that role.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
Sure, yeah, I remember uh looking over on the Instagram
in the off season seeing how many defensive linemen we sign,
free agents we signed, and you know, drafting Abdul is
gonna be a great addition and get everybody back healthy
on the defensive it's gonna be It's gonna be awesome
to face in training camp and just kind of build
us up up front and gonna get the most satisfaction
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when you see them out there, you know, being the
other offensive lines butts that we're playing against whatever week.
That is so excited looking forward to that part and
looking forward to grinding with them in training camp.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Thanks Jea, appreciate the man, of course, thank you. And
now we're joined by a Giants offensive lineman, Greg ven Rodin. Greg,
what's going on?
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Man?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Not much excited to be here, all right?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So let's second your back with the Giants. How thrilled
were you to get the call that you were gonna
be back and also not kind of coming in late
and being here during the spring too.
Speaker 12 (23:36):
Definitely happy to sign early in free agency, and there's
I think a huge benefit of just being on a
team during OTA's when you get to kind of be
around the guys and kind of help just kind of
get the ball rolling for the next season.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Now you've been doing this a long time. How valuable
is it for a team to be able to bring
back the same five starters and look, we'll see what
it looks like week one that you had in the
building last year.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It's huge.
Speaker 12 (24:01):
Like continuity is I think always talked about but maybe
slightly underrated. So we get a chance to see what
that looks like for our room this year where we're
bringing back a lot of the same guys. The whole
offense really is a lot of continuity, a lot of
familiar faces. So it's definitely exciting to be able to
kind of build and grow as an offense.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
What can fans look for from an offensive line when
they watch on a Sunday there at home? That shows
that you guys do have the continuity and it does
make a difference.
Speaker 12 (24:31):
I think as long as they're not doing close ups
of individual players for bad reasons, that's usually a good
sign for an offensive line. If we're if you can't
notice us, that's usually a good thing. And if you
do notice us, hopefully it's in the run game.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Fair I imagined the two things that would be bad signs,
right is issues with games, right, passing off stunts that
means continuity not where you want it to be. And
then free runners. Right, those are the two things that
you want to really avoid. I imagine right.
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Games specifically for offensive line. Yeah, that's definitely one hundred percent,
like something that we handle. Free runners can be a
combination of you know, scheme and communication, quarter back protection
calls with steahs could be maybe the back didn't scan
or something like that. So those things happen. They're not
always on the offensive line. Usually it's our job to
kind of set the table and then you know, we
go from there.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
What can you get out of the spring? You know,
there are no pads, there's not really any contact. So
what kind an offensive line the veteran like you with
your group together, what can you guys get out of
the spring work?
Speaker 12 (25:25):
I think it's a unique opportunity to kind of get
together and specifically work on like technique and then we
talk about setting together. So like, if you're by yourself
at home work on your PAS sets, that's one thing.
But if I'm with Jermaine and John Michael and work
together and we're talking about specific protection against a specific look, Hey,
like you need to be a little bit more vertical here,
or I need you to carry this guy a little
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bit more for me here. So just like little nuanced
things like that that we can kind of dial in
on this time of year make a huge difference in
this like fall when we're playing real football.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And it looks like carn Brisol has gone out of
his way to kind of mix in a bunch of
different guys with different groups. Is that so each unit
in case our injuries during the year can have chemistry
with each other.
Speaker 12 (26:06):
Yeah, I think guys are playing different spots, guys are
playing different lines. I think it's just we have a
lot of depth inside and we have a lot of
guys that we can play tackle too. So it's like
we want to get guys rolling, you know, playing together
so that they have that comfortability when maybe they're playing
next to each other in a game.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
One guy that's moved inside, he was outside for the
most part of his NFL career. He did it his
first year in college. Is playing guard as Evan Neil.
Have you worked with him and what has it been
like working with him trying to get reintegrated to the inside,
something that he had done previously.
Speaker 12 (26:37):
Switching positions is hard. When I was in college, I
played tackle. I got to the NFL, I was not
a tackle, so I moved to guard, and then after
my first few weeks, they started cross training me at center.
So definitely your world starts spinning a little bit when
you're trying to switch positions, and then in the NFL
just that much harder because you got guys that have
probably done it their whole careers at a specific spot,
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so hey, we got to learn something new. So it's
like the offense hasn't changed too much, but your technique
changes a ton, So you know, it's it's not an
easy thing to do, but we have a great offensive
line coach. We've got a really good room and a
lot of hands to help.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Now, moving from tackle to guard, obviously it's easier because
you have less distance to cover, but it's also a
lot more difficult because the guys right on top of you.
So what are some of the challenges that you're going
to face like you did when you're moving from tackle
into guard.
Speaker 12 (27:24):
Yeah, I would never use the word easy when I
talk about like sportific positions in the NFL. I just
think it's different whereas you know. I talked to Jermaine
about this, because Jermaine is someone who's played both guard
and tackle in the NFL, and he said that, like
he thinks, you have to block more athletic people on
the edge, but your world is a little bit smaller
where you don't have to see maybe the whole defense
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or the whole picture. When you play inside center guard,
they're definitely bigger dudes, but they're not as athletic as
the guys out on the edge. But you need to
make sure you see both sides of the street and
then the whole picture because there's not off and where
you're just I'm gonna block this guy and my job's done.
It's usually people are moving, defenses are shifting, they're blitzing,
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Safeties are in the box. So there's a lot going
on inside. And the closer you get to center, the
more you need to know how the center sees things
so that you can see things like he does.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
All right, I want ask you got the run game
real quick before we say goodbye. I think car and
Basolo did a great job last year. You guys did
everything right. You ran inside zone, outside zone, you did gap,
you did a lot of duo stuff late in the
year power. What's the challenge for an offensive lineman? You
have to be prepared for all those different types of
run schemes depending on what the opponent's going to show
you what might work that particular week.
Speaker 12 (28:35):
Definitely a challenge, but I also think it's an advantage
where a defense doesn't really know what they're going to
get out of us week to week. And I think
you know, there's definitely gonna be things that we specialize in.
Just given the stature of our offensive line. We're not
a bunch of huge guys, but we're very strong and athletic,
So with that, you're going to see a good amount
of zone. But we do run a good amount of
duo too, So it's kind of like, if you stop
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one thing or you say you're going to take something
away by game plan, we have this other tool in
our bag.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Finally, this group as a whole, you've been around some
really good offensive lines in your career. You've probably been
around someone that haven't worked out as well. What's the
ceiling of this group? If everything comes again, everything works
out what could this offensive line look like for Giant
fans when they tune in every Sunday.
Speaker 12 (29:13):
I think we have the ability to be very good
offensive line. I think people sometimes get hung up on
who was drafted where and experience and experience young guys whatever.
I just think that we have a group that works
well together. We have an O line coach that puts
us in good positions, and we have the ability to
go as far as we want to go.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Who's the next next head coach?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I don't know. Shouldn't fire tips in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
But I think I'm on board it.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, they seemed to be get denied by a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Good stuff, GVR, Thanks, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
My pleasure.
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Speaker 1 (30:00):
And now we're joined by Giants. Offensive lineman Evan Neil Evan,
how are you man?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I'm doing good man, great to be here all right?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
First things, First, tell me if I'm wrong, is this
your first heading into it off season where you're not
dealing with a serious injury recovery where you actually had
a full off season where you can pretty much just
worry about training and that's it.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
Well, my second season going into the NFL out didn't
have any injuries, didn't have anything. So it's my first
season since here two.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
How as much has that helped you knowing you're going
through a position change that you've only had to focus
on football and that's it.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
I think it's good. It's always great to go into
a season feeling healthy. I can get the most out
of my training, I can get the most out of
practicing on the field, and you know, not worry about
a nagging injury getting in the way of anything.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
What have you tried to do to help make that
position switch a little bit smooth? Obviously it's a position
you've played before, it's been a while, But what are
some things you've done this offseason to try to get
ready for that?
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Really, just stay on top of my health standing healthy
health is a big component. I do a lot of
work on my hip, so my range of motion and
my hips. Everything on offensive lineman does is out of
a bent squad position, so being able to access that
range of motion has been really good for me. And
since I've been back here with the Giants working in
no tas, just getting the field, getting back on the inside,
getting into a left guard stance, I think I've been
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getting better as the practices has been going on and
just gonna, you know, continue to develop.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Has it been a bigger adjustment moving inside or moving
back to the left side.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
That's a good question.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
Since I've been playing on the right side for the
past three years, you know, my gate kind of got
adjusted to, you know, being a right sided player. So
it's just a it took a little bit of TLC
as I like to call it, just getting back into
my left hand stance and getting my hips and my
gate shifted back to the left side. But you know
it's been coming along pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
You feel pretty good about it where you are, yeah,
I do. So what are the challenges that are unique
to playing guard versus the playing tackle?
Speaker 8 (31:53):
If you're asking me, it's all football, man, So it's
challenging playing offensive line in the NFL as it is,
But on the inside, you know, things are a lot
more physical on the inside. It's a lot more banging.
It's a lot more physical. You're putting a lot more gap, scheme, pools,
power plays, things of that nature, and things maybe happen
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a hair quicker on the inside, Uh, just picking up
blitzes and things of that nature. But you know, things
happen just as fast out at tackling my opinion as well.
So I'm just ready to embrace this new change and
go out and be the best that I can be.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
The guys are just lined up closer to you, right,
I mean, the these these three techniques are going to
be right on your shoulder. What do you have to
do to make sure you're ready for that quick contact
and then really bursting in getting to you right off
the snap? Is just that be really being aware of
the snap can and being ready to go as soon
as the ball snapped.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Percent It's a little bit easier because at that guard
you're right next to the center, so your peripheral vision
you can see the center. It's a bit easier, and yeah,
you have a guy right in front of you. The
thing I noticed about guard, especially in past protection, is
just having the ability to get your hands on the
before he can get to you. So things happen quicker
from that regard. But it's all about like reflexes and
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and reacting. So I've been feeling really good on the field,
like I've been adjusting well to that speed or whatever
you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
So, ex you probably don't have as many long players
at defensive tackle, right, Some of the edge you guys
have longer arms sometimes, So can you ruin utilize your
length well against some of these guys where you can
get your hands on them quick and kind of lock
them out, That can of give you an advantage playing inside.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
I mean, I'm not going to say that because I
mean you have big, physical, long guys on the inside.
I mean Dexter Lawrence was one of them. Whenever Leonard Williams,
he was another guy, big long armed guy. So if anything,
just being in close quarters and being able to get
your hands on a guy, that's that's going on.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
All right, final question, there's less room to maneuver, right.
You know, the first thing sometimes you got to worry
about if you line up against one of these speed
rushers you're playing tackle, is you got to get wide
enough on your kick. Right, you have a little less
room to cover at guard, right, has that been a
little bit of an adjustment with how you operate with
your feet on the inside, just because you have less
room to cover your operating a little bit more of
a phone booth tackle.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
I wouldn't say you needed to get wide. Some coaches
teach a forty five degree angle, some coaches teach vertical.
You know, it's all about getting your body in relation
to that way you can you know, mirror your defender.
You know, you can sit down on the bull rush,
or you know you can get them wide enough to
run them around the quarterback. You know that guard. You know,
things are pretty much on a lateral plane. You know
what I'm saying. You know, they teach us that tackles
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set the width of the pocket and guard set the
depth of the pocket. So from that perspective, those that's
the difference.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Finally, we talked past pro when you talk about the
run game and be an inside a guard, you mentioned
it being a very physical position. Right, you have to
pull a little bit sometimes too, maybe a little bit
whether you have to tackle. What are some of the
things that you're trying to tackle in your off season
training heading into camp when it's going to be a
lot more physical in the run game, playing inside rather
than now.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I've always been a pretty good run blocker. Yeah, so
I think that's one of my strengths in this game. So,
I mean, whenever the pass come on, I mean, it's
just time to go out there, stick your nose in it.
I Mean, it's nothing really you can train for in
the off season for that type of contact. So I'm
just ready to go out there and put the pads
on and get to work, have some fun.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
But we can't wait to see it that having good
stuff man, best of walking guard. Now we're joined by
a Giants offensive lineman, rookie Marcus. Marcus?
Speaker 11 (35:16):
What's up man?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
How you doing? So?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
How has NFL life been for the first three months?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
It's been great. I'm loving it.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Just loving being able to, you know, be a pro
every day and work on my craft and get better.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Now you've been primarily a right tackle, right, have you
gotten much work at some of the other spots?
Speaker 8 (35:30):
You know?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Have they really kind of just run to start at
the one spot to start?
Speaker 6 (35:33):
I've been playing a lot of you know, tackle left
and right left too.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
So, uh, but for the most part. I mean I've
been working everything, you know, staying fresh on whatever, so
ready to go.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
How has it been trying to learn car and Briscillo,
his system, his calls and kind of how he wants
you guys to operate.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
I think it's been, you know, pretty easy. I mean
I feel like Karen's a great coach. You know, he
does a good job of teaching us and relaying information
and you know, football is football, so it's not too hard.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I had a chance to talk to your defensive line
coast Marcus Johnson, right, he's with ohiose State now yep,
and uh talk to him about your about the h
the job you did, and he talked about how he
taught you a lot of different hand techniques or like
the one hand stad and stuff like that. Is that
one of the things that you really think you took
a lot of strides in when you're in college is
improving your handwork and getting those hands in the right spot.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Just being able to, you know, learn from a guy
who's done it and been at the you know, professional
level before. It's a tremendous help. And you know, just
taking all the techniques that I brought and seeing those
grow over time watching film and it definitely helped me
where I am.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
What are some of the things that Coach Priscillo and
Coach Frentz are kind of really honing in on with
you right now to try to get you better at
as you head into.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Your looking year.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Just making sure you know, all the technicalities are always
you know, ironed out and everything, all the kinks are good,
you know, just making sure the technique's perfect, and this
time here you want technique to be perfect so when
the bullets start flying, things can adjust a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Now you have such good feet, You're you're you're such
a good athlete. How do you thank you use that
athleticism in your footspeed to your advantage when you're out
there at tackling.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Oh, I mean it's you know, one of the biggest
parts of my game, you know, being able to analyze
and beat defenders to where they want to be and
being able to you know, utilize my quickness to get there.
Sometimes I feel like, you know, it kills me too
much too, you know, trying to be too fast and
you know what I'm saying, overrunning and where I need
to be sometimes, so being able to find the healthy
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balance of it.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
In the run game, were are you most comfortable you
like running zone? Do you like you know, I know
you're not a guard right now, but poll, duo stuff,
what do you like do it?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
In terms of run game, I mean really putting people
on the ground, whatever it takes. Zone blocking is always fun,
just being able to get later on run. I think
there's a lot of things that you can do when
it comes to zone blocking, but run blocking is run blocking.
At the end of the day, you just stuff your
knows on somebody and dry.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
David Deal was one of our old school offensive lineman
and he always said moving a man from point A
to point B against his will, and that's how we
described offensive line, which I thought was very appropriate.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
I feel like that's a very viral urn when it
comes to offensive line play.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I don't spend enough time with the internet, which which
is which I think is a good thing. Have you
set any goals out for yourself this year in terms
of you know, I'm not talking about metrics, playing time, whatever,
just things that you really want to kind of take
this next, take the next step in and become better during.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Your rookie year.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Yeah, I mean I feel like every day is a
new battle is in itself, trying to you know, just
continue each day no matter what. It really is, just
trying to get better at a single thing each day.
But uh, I mean, technique and footwork is always at
the forefront of my mind. I feel like you went
with your feet.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
So have you noticed any like a big jump in
the in the level of competition going because you were
in the Big ten that's like real deal football. But
just seeing you know, Brian Burns every day, Dual Carter
obviously he was a was at Penn State when you
were there. You know, guys like Cavon Tibadau. What is
that jumping competition been like for you?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Oh, it's it's it's great to see.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
I mean I was excited for it, to be honest,
coming out of college. I was ready to go against
you know, better competition week in week out and you know,
get those reps. But I mean it's been it's been
great to see. You know, it hasn't been too hard
to adjust to, so it's been good. It's been good.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
You're looking forward to seeing what it's like once the
pad comes on and it was like full real, like
like like real deal football. No, no, for sure, all right,
awesome Marcus, good stuff. Then I appreciate you, thank you,
and now we welcome in Giants offensive line and Aaron Stinty. Aaron,
what's going on?
Speaker 11 (39:17):
Man?
Speaker 8 (39:18):
Not much?
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Man, telling how you doing?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm doing great? Were you excited to be able to,
you know, get back here with a lot of the
same guys, same offensive line coach for a second straight year?
Speaker 13 (39:25):
Most definitely got got a great group of guys, great coach,
you know, excited to get back in, get back to
work with the guys.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
What can that do for a group when you have
the same coach and for the most part, the same
guys in the room for two straight years.
Speaker 13 (39:37):
Yeah, I mean I think it's huge.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
Man.
Speaker 13 (39:39):
You know, when it comes to offensive line, a huge
piece of it is, you know, that chemistry that bond,
that brotherhood in that room. So you know, to have
a lot of guys coming back to keep a lot
of the same piece as you know, it really just
deepens that chemistry and allows everybody to you know, feel
comfortable and know that that guy already has their back
because you know they already got that bond.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It's probably weird for me ask you this questions cifically,
But I see you guys interacting. Are you the funniest
guy in the offensive line room?
Speaker 13 (40:05):
You know who knows you're pretty funny? I appreciate that.
I appreciate that. You know, if you want to give
if they want to give me that, I'll take it.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
What is the inter going back and forth in that room?
Speaker 12 (40:18):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
What is the intercommunication?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
How do you guys kind of go back and forth
and help each other in their room when you're watching
film together and trying to get better.
Speaker 13 (40:25):
Oh, it's huge, man, you know it's it's definitely just
a family environmental brotherhood environment. You know, everybody coaches up, everybody,
everybody you know takes a note of whatever one guy's
getting taught. And then you know, we have a lot
of vets in the room now, a lot of young
guys in so you know, you can trickle that information down.
Nobody takes any hard feelings, and you know, we just
(40:46):
we just run it as a good group of guys. Man,
just it kick it away.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
We need to kick it.
Speaker 13 (40:51):
You know, nobody takes anything hard feelings and then you
just move forward. And keep getting better.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Hey, you Evan and Kubis have really been rotating at
that guard spot right in that with the ones, twos
and kind of back and forth. Is that a good
thing to get experience with a lot of different groups
of linemen over the course of the spring before the
pads on, just so you can just be with them.
Speaker 13 (41:10):
Yeah, I mean, you know that definitely helps you because
you know, you're you're able to have different guys playing
with different guys, and you know that just helps the
build that again, that that chemistry and that continuity on
the line. You know, that's that's huge when it comes
to there, and so you know, it just allows different
guys to get reps with more and more people, and
you know that that just helps deepen the bond on it.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Finally, you talked about helping guys along. Evans, the guy
that's making a transition from the outside to the inside.
What has it been like trying to get him back
into the motive playing guard of something he did as
a freshman back in Alabama a long time ago. What
has it been like trying to reintegrate him back into
the interior part of the offensive line.
Speaker 13 (41:44):
Yeah, you know, man, Evan Evan's a great guy, great,
great hard worker. You know, he's put his head down
into the books and you know he's really getting after it.
So it's been great to watch him do that as well.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
A good stuff man. We appreciate the time. And now
we're joined by giants Offensive Lineman, Jake Coubis, Jake Hawai,
Ben Good with yourself, So heading into your number two,
what kind of goals have you set forth for yourself
in terms of where you want to improve and get better?
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Yeah, I don't I don't know if there's uh, you know,
specific category, maybe more consistent in the past protection world,
but overall, just keep improving every day. I mean, at
the end of the day, that's my goal every single
day I wake up is try to find something to
get better at and try to keep improving at the
end of the day. If you're doing that in life,
you're doing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Getting better every day.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Any specific technique, stuff that you had on your checklist
that you wanted to get better.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
At, Yeah, probably just just being more consistent in my sense,
you know, just being more detailed with it.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
You know at the FCS level.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Coming from the FCS level, you can be uh, you
can get away with some bad habits with the with
the level competition you're going against at times, so it's
kind of getting rid of those and you know, just
being really really conscientious about it every day and just
trying to hammer that hammer that out.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
In the spring, they've rotated a bunch of you guys
in and out with the different groups. Sometimes you go
with the first team, sometimes second team, moving around. What
is that like for you? Trying to build chemistry with
different guys and different groups and just trying to kind
of get things going so you're ready to hit the
ground running.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
In the c it's been great. I mean, I think
we all have, you know, returning the majority of our guys,
we all have pretty good chemistry with one another. And
you know, I don't I don't think it hurts to
have that. You know, it's somebody's bound to go down.
It's football.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
It's a violent game.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
So you're gonna have to figure that out as the
season goes on, and the more continuity you have with
different guys, the better off will be as an offensive
line units the season goes on.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
How much has helped you as an individual being with
the same offensive line coach for the second straight year,
so you're reinforcing what he taught you last year instead
of learning things from scratch.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Absolutely, Carmen Carmen James have been unbelievable, you know, giving
me an opportunity first of all, and then you know,
being really willing and open to coaching me every day.
You know, some coaches will let some stuff fly, you know,
whether it's you know, seven eight year vet and they've
been doing it like this for however long and you
(44:05):
know it works for them, so they let it go.
And they've been really good about keeping me disciplined and
keeping me on top of things in terms of techniques
and fundamentals and stuff like that. So they've been great.
And then they're great exces and old minds when it
comes to football, like they just they understand how everything
fits together and they do a great job of communicating
that to all of us. And you know, having them
(44:26):
for a second year here is gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Jake, good stuff, man. I really appreciate thanks so much
of the time. Appreciate you always good to talk to
the big fellows the offensive line as they try to
protect Russell Wilson the Giants quarterbacks and make room in
the run game for the Giants running backs as well.
That's all the time me after the Giants. Little podcast
brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.
We'll talk to you next time.
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