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June 18, 2025 • 14 mins

On this episode of the Giants Huddle podcast, John Schmeelk is joined by the Giants quarterbacks, Jameis Winston and Jaxson Dart, to discuss how they are adjusting to the Giants offensive schemes, learning from each other, and the Giants’ offensive weapons.

:00 - Jameis Winston

9:24 - Jaxson Dart

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time to get inside the Giants. Let's go, Let's go,
Let's go Gians. I like it out on the Giants Bubbling,
give me some job. Part of the Giants podcast Network.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Let's Roll.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast. It's
our off season interview series. You go position by position
talking to members of the Giants heading into training camp.
This year, we're gonna lead off with quarterbacks and now
we welcome in Giants quarterback Jameis Winston. Jamis, how's it going, man?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Man blessed bro.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
So you're always one of the first guys here and
you're always one of the last guys out. What has
it been like trying to really sink your teeth into
this offense and learn it in such a short period
of time.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Brother, It's one of the most challenging offenses that I've
been in in my career.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
So really just being immersed in it and being grateful,
like just to have that that youthful learning back, like
being challenged by offense that I don't know, and especially
doing into OTAs with limited reps is amazing.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
What makes it more difficult.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
The concepts are very similar. You see that all over
the League.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
But I feel like that the freedom and the access
that the quarterback has to really run run the show.
There's so much on us, whether it be man beaters,
whether it be one word calls that have the protection,
the formation and alerts intertwined in the whole call, that
that's very a lot. That's a lot, and sometimes like
you have things that correlate together, like if like R

(01:22):
and L words or certain concepts that mean a certain thing.
But this is is a lot of memorization, Like you
have a lot of different words and verbets that doesn't
really correlate to a lot of different things.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
So this is complicated in a good way, in a
complicated in a way that empowers you as a quarterback
to get the most out of the offense.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Absolutely, And I think that's one of one of the
biggest parts of being a quarterback in general, is mastering
your offense. And I think it requires everyone to study,
not just a quarterback to know their stuff, but it
requires office alignment to be on top of the stuff.
It requires your receivers and running backs to be on
top of this stuff. And I think that that just
pulls out a certain level of accountability from us all.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Now you mentioned limited reps in in the spring, right,
you guys have four quarterbacks you're trying to get reps
for and they've been kind of moving Jackson around, and
you know, normal training camp it's you know, four plays,
four plays, four plays. That hasn't really been the case
in the spring. It's limited reps. So how has it
been like kind of being with different guys depending on
the day, working with different receivers, and kind of trying
to bring everything together despite the fact maybe it's not
as consistent as it has been in the past.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
You know, one thing that I've experienced over the past
few years is like being grateful for every rep you know,
and man just being at me or they being able
to put on this blue uniform. Man, I'm grateful for
even more because my uniform is red. You know what
I'm saying. How often do we play in a red
jersey over there in met life? So I'm just grateful
for every moment that I get to step by Dan
and compete.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Man. So that's been the most inciting part.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
You have a rookie and Jackson dor in the room,
his first round pick, your first round pick. You know,
the pressure you to go in to play right away.
It doesn't like he's gonna have to do that, which
is fortunate for him. What kind of advice had you've
given him and have you tried to help him along
in his first year in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, I just talked to him about man using his resources,
whether that be resources outside of this facility, and definitely
making the most of the resources inside this facility, because
sometimes when you're a young guy, you feel like, oh
my god, okay, like all this is on me. But
I think the Giants do a great job of letting
him know and away and letting him know and having
him aware of the resources that they have, whether it

(03:20):
be him finding him a main guy in the training room,
whether him be meeting with Iehead, a streets of conditioner
and Aaron Wellerman, whether him having one on one means
with coach, pattern with coache, you know it just really
having his own unique team within his own team with
the organization of Giants.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You have a pretty unique leadership style. Everyone here is
raved about it by the way they love you as
a guy. How did you develop becoming the leader you
are today, Because I'm sure you're much different than you
were when you first stepped into this league, how did
you kind of develop into this type of leader.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah. Man, I remember one one instance, especially in the NFL,
because through my NFL process when I first came to
the league, I was in a situation when I was like, man,
I was trying to please others.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
You know, I was just trying to, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Show everyone that I was just a good guy and
show everyone that that uh, that that I am who
I say am. But at the end of the day,
it's not really about what other people think. Everyone is
always gonna have their their their opinions and they're gonna
have what they want to say. But it's really just
being who you truly are and being that unapologetically. And
it was just time like this moment with with Sham
Payne and we are in the airport, uh and we

(04:25):
had to travel commercial one time, and it was a
moment where this this uh, this man was there with
his baby. You know, he was trying to get me
to autograph something for his baby, and you know, I
was going out my way. I'm holding up the line
trying to sign this for this man and he's like, man,
Sean was like, hey, we ain't kissing, no babies, Like
he was like, man, get out of here, like he

(04:47):
sees that, you know, he sees that we're we're uh,
we're in the behind.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Man, we're behind.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
We're already we're not in the TSA line, like we
having to go through the whole airport and like we're
not kissing babies and that right then I was like,
you know, I can build good person without someone else
approving that I'm a good person. And once you understand that,
you can be unapologically unapologetical with you and original and
if you know, if you don't have time to sign
something like so it's okay, you know, yes that person

(05:12):
might be mad at you, or something like if you
if you if you want to stay at the facility
all day, like it's okay. You don't have to be
worrying about if someone clocking you in the first one
in the first last one to leave, Like it doesn't
matter what anyone else thinks. It's about what It's about
what you do. It's about your own individual actions to
every single day.

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Speaker 1 (05:59):
Manning, that's a great answer. I want to ask about
the wide receivers. What do you think of this wide
receiver group?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Man It's a it's a very impressive round receiver crew.
One person in particularly like Darres Slayton, like obviously looking
for looking at him from Afar, I always thought that
he just had the ability to always get behind defenses.
But I didn't realize how strong and physical and sure
handed he was and get a chance to practical with him.
Realizing that he was from Atlanta, so, you know, like
me being from from Birmingham, best of Alabama, him being
from Atlanta, I know that he was, you know, a

(06:25):
guy with some smart breches, but I didn't realize, you know,
how really immersed in this in this system that he was.
He's he's very smart, Uh, he's very electric with his
speed and he's sure handed, he's he's always open. From
the film study.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
How do you go about trying to gain chemistry and
learn these wide receivers so you can connect with them
there where you want them to be, etcetera, etcetera. Like,
what's your process for doing that?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Man? I've played with some Hall of Fame receivers and
I've thrown I've made a lot of receivers look really,
really good, So I know how to get the ball
to these receivers. It's just getting to know them personally
and making sure that we're all on the same page
and certain concepts and all of them are. All of
them are very unique and they have their own ebb
and flow of the game. But when it comes to

(07:10):
on the football field, it's all about timing and accuracy.
So we're going to make sure that they're the right depth.
We want to make sure they're seeing the things, seeing
the coverage the same way that we see. And I
think like the New York Giants has been one of
the best places and making it available for these guys
to understand coverages, understand the whys of a particular concept,
and I think that goes a long way. And we
have guys like like one day, who oh are acxing?

(07:34):
Like intentional questions, but like hey, like what do you
see me here? Like versus discoverage, like how do you
want this ram? And when you have receivers that are
that intentional in pursonal what they do, then you're able
to throw the ball on time, You're able to anticipate
what they're going to do. You're able to actually have
a good feel no matter who's in and playing quarterback.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
All right, final question. You've been in a bunch of
different offenses and really good ones, Tampaa. You guys are
super explosive. Obviously, Sean Paying, he's one of the best
offensive coaches in the league. Without giving away stations secrets,
just give me like a twenty thousand foot view of
when this offense starts getting cooking and we get to
the regular season, what are fans going to see on Sunday?
What is this thing going to look like?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Well, one thing I don't think we get enough credit
for here is how good our office line is like
and the stars up front. It's about dominating a line
of scrimmageh And it's not a lot of glitz and
glamours of fancy runs and this, and it's hey, you know,
we're about to run this run and we're averaging four
five and then in the fourth quarter it's eight, you know.
And we have running backs that know how to get

(08:31):
north and south. People look at Tracy is just like,
oh man, you know he was a receiver in college
that you've got some shin He is able to get
north and south. And we have a great veteran quarterback
in Devin and Motor. So I think it starts with
the trenches. And that's everywhere I been is always has
started with the trenches. We just have we just have

(08:52):
elite neighbors. Like when you got elite neighbors, like that's
just that's an anomaly. Like I've had Mike Evans, you know,
when I play with Mike Thomas and last year I
did some amazing We did some amazing things with Jay Judy.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
When you have a superstar that is just a superstar
everything every time you touched the ball, he's electric. Anything
can happen. But when you have an office line that
is dominating a line of scrimmage in the running game,
you're gonna be able to see that This New York
Giants New York Football Giants football team is explosive and
about about it.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
So i'll summarize you. Just give me a yes or
no answer if you want. We're talking power, run, game, play, action,
get the ball downfield. Absolutely good stuff, James appreciate.

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All right, now we're joined by Giants rookie quarterback Jackson
Dart and Jackson we just said jamis here. It's airing
it right before we air yours. And you know, he's
been in the league like eight nine years and he's like, Dude,
this is the most complic offense I've ever had to
learn it. It has been a real challenge. So what has
it been like for you as as a rookie trying

(10:05):
to figure it all out?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, you know, my first two days I was swimming
a little bit just with all the information and whatnot.
But at the same time as all I know, so
getting to learn it, uh, day in and day out.
I have great guys in the room, great coaching staff
who's you know, on a development plan with me day
in and day out, and I'm just blessed to be here.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Now that you're here, What are some of the things
that you did do in college that you think have
helped you transfer and be ready for the pros? Some
of the concepts that are similar and things like that.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I think conceptionally I've pretty much ran, you know, all
the same concepts, and I think that's kind of universal
throughout football. Obviously, the lingo and how you know, maybe
some reads will change up here to there are a
little bit different. What makes it much more complicated is
obviously the players that you're playing against and the scheme
that you're playing against. So having to go against these
our guys day in and day out has been has

(10:57):
been some really good work. But I think that, you know,
for me, so then it's gonna carry over. It's just
my aggressiveness ability to push the ball down the field
at the same time I take care of the ball.
I mean, you can look at my numbers year after year,
you know, I don't turn them over the ball a lot,
and you know, I keep it on our on our side.
So I'm really excited to to implement, you know, this
offense more and more into you know, some of my

(11:18):
play style and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
But yeah, I'm really excited for the season.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Now it makes it more complicated for you. But are
you excited about the optionality? This offense gives a quarterback
where you're able to, based on what the defense shows,
you make adjustments, do different things. You and wide receivers
can have excite adjustments things like that, where you can
take advantage of what's available to you.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
I feel like, you know, this is what separates this
scheme is you can go out there against any defense
and you're gonna have answers.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
And I love that part of it because it lets
the quarterback play fast and play free.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
And you know, you've seen the success level on such
a high level from coach Stable and all of his
success and then at the same time from coach Kafka
winning a super Bowl, you know in Kansas City. So
I'm really excited for this year. I'm really excited for
the future and you know, this offense and where we
can go with it.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Drinking from a fire holes is an expression that a
lot of people use. When you first get in and
you started doing, you said, you're starting to get a
better feel for it. Is it hard to kind of
put yourself in a figure out what stage you are at,
how much more work there is to do? What are
some of the goals that you have set for yourself.
When you hit training camp, the pads come on, you
start doing more of the next step you want to
take in your development in terms of becoming an NFL quarterback.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, I think that during this time that I've been
here so far, you know, obviously you have a new
install pretty much every day, so you're constantly learning, You're
constantly getting new reps at new reps at different things.
So I'm really excited for when camp starts just to
have the chance to know that I've already ran a
lot of these plays right, and I can go out there.
I can play faster, i can think more freely, and

(12:45):
I can just go out there and play, you know,
just ball. I can just play the way that I
play instead of at times maybe overthinking the things, but
not just because of the complexity. But I can't wait
and I'm excited for this, you know, this period that
we're in right now, and then even this break to
continue to develop.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Awesome. Final question, Russell Wilson came in year one, he
took a guy's starting job. He end up being the
starting quarterback. What has he told you and give an
advice he is giving you about quickly adjusting to the
NFL and you know, who knows when you're gonna get
your opportunity. That's not important, but just device of figuring
things out quickly and learning the NFL offense and how
to be effective quickly in the National Football League.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, obviously have to be very talented, you have to
have the intangibles to do it. But at the same time,
I think that you got to have the work ethic.
You got to have the ability to lead others, and
I think that that's something that Russ does so well.
Answer and him being able to rally the guys around him,
and this is leadership presence. You know, that's been huge
for me to see and you know, I feel like
I can just take something away from him every single day,

(13:44):
which has been such a blessing. But at the same time,
You're right, you got to develop fast, and you gotta
be ready to play because you never know when your chance.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Is gonna come. And definitely not gonna let that slip.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Jackson, good stuff in best luck, good seeing you man,
Thank you you. Great stuff from the QBS there. Good
to hear from the guys that go to be under
center and really be the leaders of this offense heading
into twenty twenty five. That's all the time we after.
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Bank of the Giants. We'll see you next time.

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