November 24, 2025 • 16 mins
Bob Papa sits down with former Giants offensive lineman and Super Bowl champion, Richie Seubert. He discusses his career with the Giants, winning a Super Bowl in 2007 with a tight-knit offensive line group, and his life after football.
:00 - Beginning of his career
4:20 - 2007 offensive line group
6:50 - Life after football
8:50 - Lessons from Coach Coughlin
11:40 - Coaching high school football
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another edition of Papa's Perspective, brought to you
by Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store and Mattress
partner of the New York Giants. And we welcome into
the Hackensacho Meridian Health podcast studio Keep Getting Better, and
we are joined by Super Bowl champion Richie Seibert, who
joins us here on the show. Rich how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I am awesome, Bob, Thanks for having me. It's great
to be back.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Every time you walk into the building, you look like
you've been rejuvenated. Do you really miss it that much?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I love seeing you guys, all right. I love coming
through or seeing the guys that were here when I
was here saying Hi, being around. It's cool. Right, this
is where I spent ten years, so this has got
a special place in my heart.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Let's talk about this ten years because you know there's
first round draft picks and then there's guys that sign
as free agents. Obviously you were a free agent out
of Western Illinois. Just explain what it was like trying
to make an NFL roster for the first time.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Uh, it was tough, right, I think you just go
really hard and you don't worry about it, and you
do the best you can and hopefully somebody notices you.
But it's every year, right, it's not your one, right,
I think back every year, not you, but the media
had me out of here, right, right, So you just
want I just want to prove people wrong and just
keep fighting and playing with your buddies. And it's a
(01:21):
sport that I love to play, So why not give
it everything you have?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
When you think about what happened, what's after twenty eleven
and the new CBA where there's no longer two A
days and padded practices, I mean, you were able to
take advantage of the old situation. I would think it's
a little bit harder for guys now that are undrafted
free agents like you were to come in and try
(01:44):
to command respect because the reps are so limited.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I would want to be here, I don't. I don't
know how they're going to I don't know how they
do it now. Right when I was a rookie, my
first my first ten years, right, we were here the
entire offseason, working together as a unit. We made our
hay in the spring. Right the season got over, we
took a two week vacation and then we're back here
doing drills, not practicing, but doing drills with your lineman.
(02:11):
The coach would be on the bubble, you know, Mouse
had us out in the bubble those first couple of
years doing stuff. It'd be tough to learn with a
limited amount of time in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Take me to two thousand and two, because, yeah, you
make the roster, you make the team in all one undrafted,
and now you start all sixteen games. What was that
like for you? Knowing where you came from to receive
that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Uh, it was obviously pretty cool. Jim McNally got me
ready to play. I think that on line group with Luke, myself, Whittle, Bober,
and Rosenthal, like, we're all very similar to each other.
Luke was a first round pick, Rosie was a second
or third round pick, but me, Widow and Bober were
all free agents. We had great older guys that year
(03:02):
prior to learn from in Glenn Parker and Ron Stone
and Lomas Brown to teach us how to be professionals.
But we played well as a unit. Right We weren't
the best unit in the field, but we love the
game of football and we played for each other, and
I think that goes a long ways.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I know it's a sore spot with Giants fans, but
because that two thousand and two team I thought could
have gone to the super Bowl. I thought that was
I thought that team was fantastic when you watch, if
you ever see it on NFL network. How did they
not call pass interference on you in the end zone?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't know, but thanks for thanks for bringing up
bad memories. You're up by a few points, you end
up losing a game in the playoffs, and you don't
have many opportunities like that throughout your career or throughout
the organization's history. Right, it was passing appearance. They came
out the next day and said it was I believe
there was somebody else on our team that was running
down the field that wasn't supposed to be running down
(03:59):
the field. So ship been off setting penalties rekick. I
always said I could have been David Tyree before David
Tyree's catch, I catched that ball in score right, Yeah,
I got commercials, I got TV deals, I got shoe deals.
I got a lot of stuff going on for me.
So being pulled down at the two yard line before
the ball got there. That was passing interference.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So here you are a starter in your second year
in the league, is an undrafted free agent, and then
catastrophe strikes in two thousand and three and you suffer
this severe injury that cost you the entire four season.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But you make it back.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Now there's a coaching change, so coach Conflin's here, Coach
Flaherty is now the offensive line coach. What was that
like for you, trying to now earn their respect after
coach McNally and coach Fossil were no longer here.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just wanted an opportunity to prove myself. I remember
those are pretty dark days right that year and a
half when I was rehabbing. Thank goodness, we had Ronnie Barnes,
wise Byron Hansen was here, Steve Kennelly that are still here.
They're all still here, right, good people. They got me
pretty much back. But it was me and Ron Daye
(05:11):
that offseason. Coffin was here, Jerry Palmery was here. Me
and Ron Daye had to come in and lift every
day because we had nothing else to do. Right. Ron
was on the getting shape diet right, and I was
on the rehab diet. To get my leg right to
play football. But that was it for like the first
month and a half before he started hiring his staff.
And uh, Jerry Palmery kicked my ass, right, Can I
(05:33):
say that on here? Yes she can, right, Jerry Palmery
kicked my butt. And I remember Coach Clafflin. He was
the only coach you would walk by a n even
say boo to me. So I was like, oh, this
is gonna be tough. But my teammates had my back.
Ronnie and Byron and Steve and Lee, right, they all
pushed me and I found a way back out there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So you get back in oh five, and now suddenly
you're a starter, and uh, there was full time star
you seven. You started three games in six. The bond
that you guys formed, because I notice even today, like
last year with one hundred year anniversary, you guys still
to take a picture line up the same way.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, on our tippy toes, lined up in the same
positions that we played. We're buddies, we're friends. We love
each other right like we all have. Most of us
have families. We get along, we go out to dinner,
we hang out. We don't do it enough because our
lives have all taken us in different directions, but they're
your buddies. Like if you worked out with your buddies
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every single day from when the season got over until
the season started, and you went to breakfast together, and
you ate together, and you did everything but sleep together.
You're gonna play for each other and we had a
lot of fun together.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So let's talk about life after football, because you know,
a lot of players try to find their space, try
to find where they fit in.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I talked with Henry behind Oski, and he tried being
in the personnel department and he loved it, but he
felt like a higher calling, so he got involved in
education and now he's a principal in a high school.
You've become one of the best high school football coaches
in the state of New Jersey. Was that ever really
part of the plan?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
No, I didn't know what I wanted to do. I
just knew that football is really the only thing I
ever did right. I wasn't the best student in college.
I went to class, but I wasn't the best student.
I didn't like going to class, but I loved football
and I want to be part of the game. So
it was either try to get into coaching at a
higher level and not see your family or coach high
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school football and had more time to be with your
family and having three kids, having two boys that played football.
I always said, I don't need to coach my kids,
but I need to be able to watch my kids play.
So to be able to coach my two sons for
their four years of high school with special for me.
I've coached before they were there, and now I'm coaching
after they both left. I'm glad I got into coaching
high school football. I love giving back to the game.
(08:05):
I love hopefully doing it the right way right, pushing
these kids to the max, but being fair to them,
being honest, and trying to give our team the most
successful chance to be successful on Friday nights. Coaching is
harder than playing, and I think high school coaching is
probably the hardest level to coach because we don't get
we don't get the athletes twelve hours a day or
(08:25):
eight hours a day. We have three hours of practice
and that's it. That's film, lifting and practicing, so we
get a lot of complish I went watch on Hills
down wore in New Jersey. I love my coaching staff.
I think that makes it easy for me. I have
way too many coaches, but we have fun together and
the kids see that, and they have fun together, and
we just try to enjoy the game of football together
(08:47):
as a group.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
What do you find yourself like any person that is
influenced by important people? Do you find yourself repeating phrases
that your coach is hit you with constantly?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Mostly Coach Coffin's quotes. I think I bucked people here.
I'm like, hey, can you send me all the quotes?
Because Coach Coffin was a quote guy. Like we'd sit
meetings and he'd read off quotes NonStop and a lot
of them hit home. So I had them sent to
me and I'm I would say, I'm very similar to
Coach Coffin and some of his expressions that he's used
over the past. Right, team above self, all the team
(09:25):
stuff I really truly enjoy and I think that's what
makes teams good. Right. Individualism is nothing in football. You
can have the best player, but if you don't have
the best guys around them, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Coach Coauflin also, and he's admitted this, you know, on
shows and interviews and stuff. Like that he changed a
little bit right from when you first met him to
what O seven looked like and then thereafter, what did
you take from that and how do you apply that
to yourself as a coach.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I think you have to get to know your players, right.
I think coach once coach often got to know us
as people and not just as football players. I think
that's when the switch happened, and we'll have our thoughts
on why. But having grandkids helped, and having a great
kids at practice watching practice helps. Right, There's more to
life than football. Like we all want to win just
as bad, like my high school kids want to win
(10:16):
just as much as I want to win. But once
you start getting to know the person and the issues
everybody has and what they're going through in life, there's
there's bigger things than the game of football itself. So
I think just getting to know the person means a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And then mentoring, like you're hoping that at some point
in time for these kids that you have, I would
assume maybe some will go on to play collegiately on
some level, maybe some won't. Most of them probably won't.
But I guess what you'd like to probably do is
say man when they're in their life to say man,
(10:54):
Coach Cybert said this to me and this will help
me through this situation. Is that a rewarding concept?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It is? And another big reward for me as a
coach is I've been there now ten years, nine or
ten years. I don't keep track of time very well,
but when my former players come back to watch practice
or games and they want to be there and they
want to talk to the guys on the team and
if they played college football grade but if not, it
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doesn't matter right worthy in life. And over the last
four or five years, more and more start trickling back
during the summer or during the season and they reach
out and say, coach, can I stop by practice to
see the guys. I think that's the biggest reward for
me as a coach, having these guys want to be back.
When I first took the job at watching, I couldn't
get guys that come back that played there. And now
they want to be back. I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
What about managing expectations because it's you know, you have
a track record, you have success. There's no free agency
to speak of, and there's not a draft. You're dealing
with a certain collection of kids. How do you manage that?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Just prove people wrong. Right, have been saying that we're
not the greatest football school in New Jersey, and I
think my personal life, I'm proving people wrong your entire life,
in your career, right playing football. Just prove them wrong.
Put a chip on your shoulder and go play. Play
the best you can play, and what happens happens. I'm
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a firm believer if you play hard and don't make
the mistakes, you can be in every game. I don't
care who you're playing. It's all coughing stuff, right, don't
turn the ball over, control of the clock, but just
go hard and prove everybody wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Last year, the Giants celebrated one hundred seasons and you
were voted as one of the top one hundred players
in the history of the franchise. Your whole group made
that list. What did that mean to you?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Personally? It was pretty special. It really didn't when you
called me and told me I didn't believe you, right,
because there's been a lot of great football players that
come through this organization, obviously, but the day that I
got to come be with all the guys on it
and you looked around. It was pretty cool. It was
a pretty cool group of people to be a part of.
(13:06):
Pretty special. I was happy that my entire family got
to be here for that game last year. My parents
and my sister came out, and my my own family,
my wife and kids. It's pretty cool, right, this is
I bleed blue. Right once a giant, I was a Giant.
I was only a Giant, so I don't know anything else.
And I love this organization. I love the mayors, I
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love the tishes, I love all you guys. When I
come back to see you. It's special, right, It's a
special place.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Last question, Obviously, you've had all the success on the
high school level. Now that your kids are getting older,
are there aspirations to take your coaching skills to a
next level or are you good at right where you are.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm gonna say it, Bob, I want to take the
Giants offensive line in the off season and work with them, right,
because they need somebody to work out. That would be
my dream goal, right, just to be like I understand
that the coaches here can't work with their players in
the offseason like some older guys work with them, like
make them not make them be here, but have them
want to be here together. I think if they work
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out together, you're going to get better as a group.
But no, I love coaching high school football. I love
watching my oldest son play college football at eat Strasburg.
It's a great spot to play football and go become
a teacher and coach. He wants to coach like I do.
My other son's going to North Dakota to become an airline pilot,
which scares the hell out of me because he's finding
these little planes right now and I'm not going up
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with them. But I'm taking him to school today because
he's become a manager on the football team when he's
going to school, which is cool. And then I'm still
chasing my daughter around, who's fourteen years old, starting high
school and playing softball basketball. So I still have four
more years and then i'll be old. Right, he'll be fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's not old.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'll be almost as old as you. So my window
might have closed to coach like in college, or try
to be they said, I respect. I loved all my coaches.
The amount of time and energy you put in as
the NFL coach and a college coach with the different
aspects of the game. I don't know if I want
to do that. Like I put in a lot of
time coaching high school football and I don't teach, so
(15:10):
I'm at the school every day caring about the kids
in the program. But this is a whole nother ball wax.
My wife might want me to be gone more, but
you don't want to be I don't know if I
want to be gone more. I enjoy hunting, I enjoy fishing,
I enjoy finer things in life.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
You know, I have a business idea for you. Right,
So you got the Manning Passing Academy. Now you have
this tight end. You where these tight ends are? Why
do you just start like an on line thing.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Somebody like Sean to come with me or snee right,
the pretty boys to help me out with it, like
we do like a turkey hunting in the spring, Like
get all these onlinemen turkey hunting somewhere and talk football.
That would be that would be the ideal thing to
do with these guys.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And an NFL network will come and shoot it and
you'll become a zillionaire.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Sure, be a zillionaire. Do an online play, Bob, thanks
for having me on I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Always good to see you. That's Rich Seibert joining us
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York Football Giants.
Welcome to another edition of Papa's Perspective, brought to you
by Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store and Mattress
partner of the New York Giants. And we welcome into
the Hackensacho Meridian Health podcast studio Keep Getting Better, and
we are joined by Super Bowl champion Richie Seibert, who
joins us here on the show. Rich how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I am awesome, Bob, Thanks for having me. It's great
to be back.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Every time you walk into the building, you look like
you've been rejuvenated. Do you really miss it that much?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I love seeing you guys, all right. I love coming
through or seeing the guys that were here when I
was here saying Hi, being around. It's cool. Right, this
is where I spent ten years, so this has got
a special place in my heart.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Let's talk about this ten years because you know there's
first round draft picks and then there's guys that sign
as free agents. Obviously you were a free agent out
of Western Illinois. Just explain what it was like trying
to make an NFL roster for the first time.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Uh, it was tough, right, I think you just go
really hard and you don't worry about it, and you
do the best you can and hopefully somebody notices you.
But it's every year, right, it's not your one, right,
I think back every year, not you, but the media
had me out of here, right, right, So you just
want I just want to prove people wrong and just
keep fighting and playing with your buddies. And it's a
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sport that I love to play, So why not give
it everything you have?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
When you think about what happened, what's after twenty eleven
and the new CBA where there's no longer two A
days and padded practices, I mean, you were able to
take advantage of the old situation. I would think it's
a little bit harder for guys now that are undrafted
free agents like you were to come in and try
(01:44):
to command respect because the reps are so limited.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I would want to be here, I don't. I don't
know how they're going to I don't know how they
do it now. Right when I was a rookie, my
first my first ten years, right, we were here the
entire offseason, working together as a unit. We made our
hay in the spring. Right the season got over, we
took a two week vacation and then we're back here
doing drills, not practicing, but doing drills with your lineman.
(02:11):
The coach would be on the bubble, you know, Mouse
had us out in the bubble those first couple of
years doing stuff. It'd be tough to learn with a
limited amount of time in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Take me to two thousand and two, because, yeah, you
make the roster, you make the team in all one undrafted,
and now you start all sixteen games. What was that
like for you? Knowing where you came from to receive
that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Uh, it was obviously pretty cool. Jim McNally got me
ready to play. I think that on line group with Luke, myself, Whittle, Bober,
and Rosenthal, like, we're all very similar to each other.
Luke was a first round pick, Rosie was a second
or third round pick, but me, Widow and Bober were
all free agents. We had great older guys that year
(03:02):
prior to learn from in Glenn Parker and Ron Stone
and Lomas Brown to teach us how to be professionals.
But we played well as a unit. Right We weren't
the best unit in the field, but we love the
game of football and we played for each other, and
I think that goes a long ways.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I know it's a sore spot with Giants fans, but
because that two thousand and two team I thought could
have gone to the super Bowl. I thought that was
I thought that team was fantastic when you watch, if
you ever see it on NFL network. How did they
not call pass interference on you in the end zone?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't know, but thanks for thanks for bringing up
bad memories. You're up by a few points, you end
up losing a game in the playoffs, and you don't
have many opportunities like that throughout your career or throughout
the organization's history. Right, it was passing appearance. They came
out the next day and said it was I believe
there was somebody else on our team that was running
down the field that wasn't supposed to be running down
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the field. So ship been off setting penalties rekick. I
always said I could have been David Tyree before David
Tyree's catch, I catched that ball in score right, Yeah,
I got commercials, I got TV deals, I got shoe deals.
I got a lot of stuff going on for me.
So being pulled down at the two yard line before
the ball got there. That was passing interference.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So here you are a starter in your second year
in the league, is an undrafted free agent, and then
catastrophe strikes in two thousand and three and you suffer
this severe injury that cost you the entire four season.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But you make it back.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Now there's a coaching change, so coach Conflin's here, Coach
Flaherty is now the offensive line coach. What was that
like for you, trying to now earn their respect after
coach McNally and coach Fossil were no longer here.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just wanted an opportunity to prove myself. I remember
those are pretty dark days right that year and a
half when I was rehabbing. Thank goodness, we had Ronnie Barnes,
wise Byron Hansen was here, Steve Kennelly that are still here.
They're all still here, right, good people. They got me
pretty much back. But it was me and Ron Daye
(05:11):
that offseason. Coffin was here, Jerry Palmery was here. Me
and Ron Daye had to come in and lift every
day because we had nothing else to do. Right. Ron
was on the getting shape diet right, and I was
on the rehab diet. To get my leg right to
play football. But that was it for like the first
month and a half before he started hiring his staff.
And uh, Jerry Palmery kicked my ass, right, Can I
(05:33):
say that on here? Yes she can, right, Jerry Palmery
kicked my butt. And I remember Coach Clafflin. He was
the only coach you would walk by a n even
say boo to me. So I was like, oh, this
is gonna be tough. But my teammates had my back.
Ronnie and Byron and Steve and Lee, right, they all
pushed me and I found a way back out there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So you get back in oh five, and now suddenly
you're a starter, and uh, there was full time star
you seven. You started three games in six. The bond
that you guys formed, because I notice even today, like
last year with one hundred year anniversary, you guys still
to take a picture line up the same way.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, on our tippy toes, lined up in the same
positions that we played. We're buddies, we're friends. We love
each other right like we all have. Most of us
have families. We get along, we go out to dinner,
we hang out. We don't do it enough because our
lives have all taken us in different directions, but they're
your buddies. Like if you worked out with your buddies
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every single day from when the season got over until
the season started, and you went to breakfast together, and
you ate together, and you did everything but sleep together.
You're gonna play for each other and we had a
lot of fun together.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So let's talk about life after football, because you know,
a lot of players try to find their space, try
to find where they fit in.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I talked with Henry behind Oski, and he tried being
in the personnel department and he loved it, but he
felt like a higher calling, so he got involved in
education and now he's a principal in a high school.
You've become one of the best high school football coaches
in the state of New Jersey. Was that ever really
part of the plan?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
No, I didn't know what I wanted to do. I
just knew that football is really the only thing I
ever did right. I wasn't the best student in college.
I went to class, but I wasn't the best student.
I didn't like going to class, but I loved football
and I want to be part of the game. So
it was either try to get into coaching at a
higher level and not see your family or coach high
(07:43):
school football and had more time to be with your
family and having three kids, having two boys that played football.
I always said, I don't need to coach my kids,
but I need to be able to watch my kids play.
So to be able to coach my two sons for
their four years of high school with special for me.
I've coached before they were there, and now I'm coaching
after they both left. I'm glad I got into coaching
high school football. I love giving back to the game.
(08:05):
I love hopefully doing it the right way right, pushing
these kids to the max, but being fair to them,
being honest, and trying to give our team the most
successful chance to be successful on Friday nights. Coaching is
harder than playing, and I think high school coaching is
probably the hardest level to coach because we don't get
we don't get the athletes twelve hours a day or
(08:25):
eight hours a day. We have three hours of practice
and that's it. That's film, lifting and practicing, so we
get a lot of complish I went watch on Hills
down wore in New Jersey. I love my coaching staff.
I think that makes it easy for me. I have
way too many coaches, but we have fun together and
the kids see that, and they have fun together, and
we just try to enjoy the game of football together
(08:47):
as a group.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
What do you find yourself like any person that is
influenced by important people? Do you find yourself repeating phrases
that your coach is hit you with constantly?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Mostly Coach Coffin's quotes. I think I bucked people here.
I'm like, hey, can you send me all the quotes?
Because Coach Coffin was a quote guy. Like we'd sit
meetings and he'd read off quotes NonStop and a lot
of them hit home. So I had them sent to
me and I'm I would say, I'm very similar to
Coach Coffin and some of his expressions that he's used
over the past. Right, team above self, all the team
(09:25):
stuff I really truly enjoy and I think that's what
makes teams good. Right. Individualism is nothing in football. You
can have the best player, but if you don't have
the best guys around them, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Coach Coauflin also, and he's admitted this, you know, on
shows and interviews and stuff. Like that he changed a
little bit right from when you first met him to
what O seven looked like and then thereafter, what did
you take from that and how do you apply that
to yourself as a coach.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I think you have to get to know your players, right.
I think coach once coach often got to know us
as people and not just as football players. I think
that's when the switch happened, and we'll have our thoughts
on why. But having grandkids helped, and having a great
kids at practice watching practice helps. Right, There's more to
life than football. Like we all want to win just
as bad, like my high school kids want to win
(10:16):
just as much as I want to win. But once
you start getting to know the person and the issues
everybody has and what they're going through in life, there's
there's bigger things than the game of football itself. So
I think just getting to know the person means a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And then mentoring, like you're hoping that at some point
in time for these kids that you have, I would
assume maybe some will go on to play collegiately on
some level, maybe some won't. Most of them probably won't.
But I guess what you'd like to probably do is
say man when they're in their life to say man,
(10:54):
Coach Cybert said this to me and this will help
me through this situation. Is that a rewarding concept?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It is? And another big reward for me as a
coach is I've been there now ten years, nine or
ten years. I don't keep track of time very well,
but when my former players come back to watch practice
or games and they want to be there and they
want to talk to the guys on the team and
if they played college football grade but if not, it
(11:20):
doesn't matter right worthy in life. And over the last
four or five years, more and more start trickling back
during the summer or during the season and they reach
out and say, coach, can I stop by practice to
see the guys. I think that's the biggest reward for
me as a coach, having these guys want to be back.
When I first took the job at watching, I couldn't
get guys that come back that played there. And now
they want to be back. I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
What about managing expectations because it's you know, you have
a track record, you have success. There's no free agency
to speak of, and there's not a draft. You're dealing
with a certain collection of kids. How do you manage that?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Just prove people wrong. Right, have been saying that we're
not the greatest football school in New Jersey, and I
think my personal life, I'm proving people wrong your entire life,
in your career, right playing football. Just prove them wrong.
Put a chip on your shoulder and go play. Play
the best you can play, and what happens happens. I'm
(12:18):
a firm believer if you play hard and don't make
the mistakes, you can be in every game. I don't
care who you're playing. It's all coughing stuff, right, don't
turn the ball over, control of the clock, but just
go hard and prove everybody wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Last year, the Giants celebrated one hundred seasons and you
were voted as one of the top one hundred players
in the history of the franchise. Your whole group made
that list. What did that mean to you?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Personally? It was pretty special. It really didn't when you
called me and told me I didn't believe you, right,
because there's been a lot of great football players that
come through this organization, obviously, but the day that I
got to come be with all the guys on it
and you looked around. It was pretty cool. It was
a pretty cool group of people to be a part of.
(13:06):
Pretty special. I was happy that my entire family got
to be here for that game last year. My parents
and my sister came out, and my my own family,
my wife and kids. It's pretty cool, right, this is
I bleed blue. Right once a giant, I was a Giant.
I was only a Giant, so I don't know anything else.
And I love this organization. I love the mayors, I
(13:27):
love the tishes, I love all you guys. When I
come back to see you. It's special, right, It's a
special place.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Last question, Obviously, you've had all the success on the
high school level. Now that your kids are getting older,
are there aspirations to take your coaching skills to a
next level or are you good at right where you are.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm gonna say it, Bob, I want to take the
Giants offensive line in the off season and work with them, right,
because they need somebody to work out. That would be
my dream goal, right, just to be like I understand
that the coaches here can't work with their players in
the offseason like some older guys work with them, like
make them not make them be here, but have them
want to be here together. I think if they work
(14:09):
out together, you're going to get better as a group.
But no, I love coaching high school football. I love
watching my oldest son play college football at eat Strasburg.
It's a great spot to play football and go become
a teacher and coach. He wants to coach like I do.
My other son's going to North Dakota to become an airline pilot,
which scares the hell out of me because he's finding
these little planes right now and I'm not going up
(14:30):
with them. But I'm taking him to school today because
he's become a manager on the football team when he's
going to school, which is cool. And then I'm still
chasing my daughter around, who's fourteen years old, starting high
school and playing softball basketball. So I still have four
more years and then i'll be old. Right, he'll be fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's not old.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'll be almost as old as you. So my window
might have closed to coach like in college, or try
to be they said, I respect. I loved all my coaches.
The amount of time and energy you put in as
the NFL coach and a college coach with the different
aspects of the game. I don't know if I want
to do that. Like I put in a lot of
time coaching high school football and I don't teach, so
(15:10):
I'm at the school every day caring about the kids
in the program. But this is a whole nother ball wax.
My wife might want me to be gone more, but
you don't want to be I don't know if I
want to be gone more. I enjoy hunting, I enjoy fishing,
I enjoy finer things in life.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
You know, I have a business idea for you. Right,
So you got the Manning Passing Academy. Now you have
this tight end. You where these tight ends are? Why
do you just start like an on line thing.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Somebody like Sean to come with me or snee right,
the pretty boys to help me out with it, like
we do like a turkey hunting in the spring, Like
get all these onlinemen turkey hunting somewhere and talk football.
That would be that would be the ideal thing to
do with these guys.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And an NFL network will come and shoot it and
you'll become a zillionaire.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Sure, be a zillionaire. Do an online play, Bob, thanks
for having me on I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Always good to see you. That's Rich Seibert joining us
on Papa's perspective. It's brought to you by Bob's Discount Furniture,
the official furniture store and mattress partner of the New
York Football Giants.
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