July 29, 2025 • 19 mins
Today on the Happy Half Hour, Darin and Kassidy react to the Chandler Zavala injury, discuss the new waiver claims, highlight Jimmy Horn's performance during Tuesday's practice, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy half Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hello friends, welcome to the Tuesday edition. And I put
up two fingers because I'm not a very smart person,
because Tuesday is the second day of the week. Is
we learned in Winnie the Pooh about a million years ago,
Happy Tuesday. And it was a little bit lighter Tuesday.
We were all lathered up real live football yesterday and
that was cool, but today was a much It was
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like a recovery day.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It was a reset day after a pads day and
a pads day coming tomorrow too.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, it would have a breather.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
This would be the part of the podcast where I'd
go old man and start yelling at clouds.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And back in my day.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We did today and it was one hundred degrees and
we liked it.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
No, it's there was definitely some of that after the
cooling trailer the other day. Yeah, and it was I
work outside in the heat, and I'm like, I don't
think you're working quite the same, but okay.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Not the same as what these cats are doing, but
that is the way they were. It's kind of a
ramp up period for everybody. So today was a little
bit lighter day. Run around in shorts about an hour
and twenty something like that. Yeah, they're going to get
back after it tomorrow and pads and it'll look more
like football. Today was another one of those seven on
seven days like we've seen so much of.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, that days for a couple of guys to you know,
one of those days where it was get some of
the younger guys, some reps a chance to kind of
come in and do something as well. And like you said,
a lot of seven on seven. I think there was
a team run period, but even that was just kind.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Of thudding up. Nothing crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, nobody going to the ground when they're not in pads.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know, Trevin Wallace and Cuba Hubbard aren't duking it
out or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But yeah, people tried to make that a thing.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Not it really wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was just a football thing.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But there was a little bit of news today, and
let's go with that right out of the top. Derrick
Brown was kind of on the side doing return to
play stuff rather than practicing as normal as he has been.
Dave Canal has said after practice he's had a little
bit of an a bleak strain. Nothing that they went
and got mrit or anything like that. But because it's
Derek Brown. You make sure you give him time. They
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were giving Derek time anyway. Derek was kind of easing
into this thing anyway. So when he feels a little
something and it's Derek Brown, you let him work it out.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, And he's not in a huge rush. I mean
there's still like five weeks until the season starts, something
like that, any weeks and I know there's a game
next week, it's a preseason game, but Derek knows what
to do and how to get ready. And I know
it's you're still gonna want to get some rush shaken
off because he hasn't played in almost a year. But
I'm not worried about his ability to know the playbook.
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When he steps out there, it is gonna look a
little different because he hasn't played with a lot of
these guys. You know, that's something that Sean Robinson even
talked about today. You know, it being a little bit
of a weird dynamic because they spent the past year
getting to know each other pretty well, but they haven't
actually played that me snaps together in a game, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What does that look like? And you know that is
by design.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
You know, Derek's kind of like taking all that offseason
stuff they did and add a top ten pick and
one hundred million dollar contract to it, so he you know,
everything in Canals was very careful to say.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It wasn't an ee. You know, it's almost like nothing
to see here. But Derek's gonna be all right.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And actually, on a light day like today, you know,
they don't even have pads on. If Derek Brown needs
to walk her off to the side and kind of
stretch some stuffed out right stretch some stuff out, not
a big deal.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
There was one other injury that's gonna take him Inute
Chandler Zavalla, the former fourth round pick who has started
nine games in the last two years.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He's a spot starter at guard, has.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Stepped in at times done a good job when he's
been in there. Chandler's gonna miss a couple of weeks.
I mean, Dave described it as a patill attendon injury,
not a patill attending rupture that would have been much worse,
which actually happened coincidentally in a one on one pass
rush drill with Derek Brown. You know, you got two
guys of that size pushing on each other sometimes stuff.
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Unfortunately for Chandler first day in pads, he's gonna miss time.
I mean, Dave described it as weeks, and usually when
coaches go week to week instead of day to day,
that means it's probably going to be multiple weeks.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So it's a shame for Chandler.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I mean a because he's pretty good player, is part
of a really deep and good offensive line. We've talked
about that a lot this offseason. I mean, when you
bring back your top nine guys in snaps from the
year before and really layer in a bunch of guys
who were still around. Canal has talked about that in
the aftermath of the injury, just that all the guys
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who are getting snaps there now are people that are
familiar with whether it's Jarrick Kingston, who was one of
the six guys claimed off waivers after final cuts after
initial cuts.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I broke my own rule, Darren stuff. Don't do that
ever again.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
We're coming up close on that too. You better get
it together.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I got to tighten that up. That's like people who
call lecterns podiums. Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
People stand on a podium behind elector.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
This is the hill he has chosen to die and
I'm going to somebody said, what do you call it that?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Because that's what it's called.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So anyway, Kingston was claimed in and cuts to fifty
three last year from San Francisco, where he was a
six round pick. He was around all last year. To
Terry Carter, just call him JT. Make it easy on yourself.
JT is a guy who's on practice squad last year.
And then you got super sub Brady Christiansen, who can
play any position on the offensive line up to an
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including tight end.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So Brady's around there. He started a bunch of games
at guard, he was sixteen games starter at guard in
twenty two. Can do that job well. So I mean
they're covered for people to do the thing. I just
hate it for Chandler. Yeah, because in addition to being
pretty good football player, Chandler Zavala has one of the
bright spirits in this room. I believe it is my
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conviction that there is nothing you could ask Chandler Zavala
to do that he would not agree to.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Happily.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We need you to go to Germany and put on
later hoses. Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah, happy.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And you know, to your point about having so many
guys though, that you know behind him, that you already
know and trust. Dave Canals made the point today he said,
I don't know if in fifteen years, I've ever been
a part of a team that returned pretty much the
entire offensive line unit. Yeah, He's like, that's that's an
insane thing to be able to say and to be
able to do right.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
They're not all for times like they're not nine deep
and guys they know from last year.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
They're about thirteen deep. Guys they know from last year.
Unheard of because.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know the other one that we've talked about is
Brandon Walton. He's a guy who stepped in. He was
active for a game last year, up for a game.
He is like the David Moore of the offensive line room.
Coaches know him. They brought him with him from Tampa Bay.
You know, hey, we know what you're capable of. So
you know, they've got a bunch of dudes they can
fill in. Just a shame for Chandler's of all. In
addition to going to Germany, he was one of our
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goat yoga guys.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Some of the I'm into it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
My favorite content on Panthers dot Com during the summer
was goat yoga with a lot of offensive linemen and
Chandler of course.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Forting out there doing his actual yoga. Yeah, everybody else
is playing with the goats and turks over there like
in Downward Dog, and he's like, this is.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
My Monday yoga. That's right, and then or go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
No, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I mean, it's like I said, it's one of those
things that happens in training camp when guys are beating
and banging against each other.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's an unfortunate part of it.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But every you know, every camp, something like this happens,
and those guys move on. The good news is the
Carolina Panthers are built to withstand stuff at that position
better than a lot of other teams would be, or
better than they had been in the past.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And it doesn't seem like it's going to be a long,
long recovery, at least as far as where we stand
right now on you know, July twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, all these injuries are different, and you never get
into business of predicting somebody else's stuff. But when Canalis
was willing to say, you know, maybe getting back out
here before the end of camp. That's a pir that's
a reasonable sign. So wishing the best for Chandlers of
Allah in his recovery. That was h Once you get
through that kind of news today wasn't news heavy.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
No wide receiver change this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yep, Dan Chisenna is gone. Dan had been on the
PP list with a little calf injury. That h that
was not allowing him to get on the field. He
was waved injured. I don't know that we've seen the
last of Dan Shison necessarily. I think guys like that
tend to go away for a little bit and then
maybe when they're well come back. I mean, the thing
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about Dan is we talk so much about receiver receiver
competition on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
It feels like it's an every day it is. It
feels like every.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Single day in a Dave of Canalis press conference, he
gets asked about receiver competition and he gives a version
of the same answer.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Dave's a polite guy.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
He tries to mix it up for the people asking
who may not have been here the day before.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But yeah, we've talked about that a good bit.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Dan wasn't one of those guys you think of in
terms of oh, my gosh, the plays he makes on offense.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He made a lot of plays on special teams. He's
a super.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Fast guy, four three forty track guy at Penn State
before he was ever a football player. And you know
they're going to be looking for some special teams. Guys
brought in just seeing Reid, who is a undrafted rookie
from the University of San Diego and San Diego. Yeah, okay,
I believe it's Spanish for old wooden boats I had.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Have you ever seen the movie Anchorman?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No? Actually I haven't. Isn't that crazy? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Friends, we've broken news here. We've got a tremendous blind
spot which must be corrected.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I don't know why I've never seen it. I've seen
bits and pieces of it here and there, like if
it's on TV or you know, clips of it'll come
across Twitter or something. But for whatever reason, I just
never sat down to watch the whole thing. I have
nothing against Anchorman. I like Will Ferrell is one of
those you know, It's one of those that I'll quote
at times.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I'm writing down in my notebook. Has never seen Anchorman.
This is like homework. You've got to You've got to
remedy this before the end of training.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's like it has all those iconic lines like I'm
in a glass case of emotion and the rich mahogany,
Like it's got all these great moments and you know
the one that I'm not going to say on a mic, yes,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
But it's got all these great moments. I know the movie.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I've just never I think I've seen more of the
second one than I have of the first one.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I don't know. Why isn't I Love Lamp? Also from Anchorman?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah? And then sixty percent of the time it works
every time.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
That's right, See, I got I know all these lines.
I just never saw it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Hey, podcast, Matt, do you think we could get sex
Panther to sponsor the Happy half Hour?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What do you think? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Sixty percent of the time this podcast works every time.
I don't know any.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
One of the days it might not be working.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Where where were we we were talking receiver competition? Yeah,
we were talking about wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
The one one thing that happened today that kind of
popped out, cause again it's a day that didn't him
why we're going to talk about wide receivers here at
Panthers dot Com and on the Happy Half Hour. Jimmy
Horn did a thing today. He actually did a couple
of things. Scored a touchdown early, it'll a dance with JT.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Sanders.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm not really going to replicate the dance because that
would be bad, but.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
During you're not quite as smooth as him.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Maybe just slightly less.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Also, earlier in the day, on the other direction of
the field, he kind of took a pop. I mean,
they weren't in pads today, but there was a little
bit of a collision and Jimmy just kind of immediately
popped up and started dancing again, which was much more
pronounced than the touchdown dance. Actually, But for a little guy,
he ain't afraid to run around in there in the
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middle of the field.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
And now it's talked about that a good.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Bit, even talked about him being willing to go out
there and block during the run game. I'm going to
be completely honest, and then if this is a reflection
on me, then so be it. When they're out there
doing a run and play, I'm not paying that much
attention to Jimmy Horn, but apparently I need to start
because he said, you know you see him even out
there being willing to kind of take on those blocks
and create holes. And now I'm really curious what Jimmy Horn,
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the blocker in a run game looks like.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, that's even more homework. We're great to check with.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Which is more important than that? Are anchorman?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
We'll see? Well, those are of equal importance to me, honestly.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
But you know, wide receivers usually notoriously don't like to
block anyways. And so to have somebody that is kind
of you know, a speedster guy, run guy and being
willing to go out there and do it, you know,
that says a lot about Jimmy Horn. And you know,
we've heard people from Colorado, especially Deon Sangers, talk about
how much they love Jimmy's heart and Jimmy's want to
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and you know, we're starting to see it here.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, no doubt he's a scrappy little fell I think, yeah, yeah,
I think if you're under five foot nine, you get
described as scrappy.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Whether you are scrappy or not.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
We're gonna there's not many adjectives that you can use
at that point, so we'll go as scrappy.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, we'll go with that. And Jimmy is though.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I mean, he's got that little fearlessness about his game
because he does fly around, put himself into unusual positions,
gets in the air, you know, not afraid to go
up and make plays. Yes, I know, don't get carried
away people before you compare him to that other little, short,
scrappy guy who is a not first round pick here thirughly. Yet,
let's give Jimmy time to grow into whatever Jimmy's gonna be.
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But I do like the fact that, you know, Canal
has talked about that competitiveness and that enthusiasm for a
guy who is not built like the rest of these dudes.
If you look at that receiver room, Canal has called
it his basketball team. There's a bunch of interesting There's
a bunch of big dudes in there, from McMillan to
Bryce and Tremaine, who's about who looks like he's about
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six sixty seven or something to forty or something.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
He's a fairly gigantic kid. A lot of size in
that room. And then there's Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah he's uh so, would Jimmy be your because you're
talking about it, you know, being different body types.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Would Jimmy be your shooting guard.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
He might be my Muggsy Bogues.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
You're muggy.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
He might be my Bogues on this team, and God
bless Muggsy Bogues Hornet's legends.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So then Leget would be he's not big enough. He's
not big enough to be a center. I'd put Bryce
and to remain at my center.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
We're gonna we're gonna stretch this metaphor till it breaks.
You know, we.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Could we could go down to maybe you know what,
ball no or Bryce Young might be the guy to
break this down.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Here is even more to get at.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I put leg get at my forward, feeling at my
point guard.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Maybe basketball. We got a team back at a forward.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, what are we running? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's uh, we're running late, is what we're running. I
don't know what, what time is it? What else happened
in practice for fifteen minutes until until we get to
the bottom of this. Oh, I know what else was happening.
The coolest thing we saw in practice today was.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Andy Dalton drop kicking thirty yard field goals.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
That's right, Andy Dalton.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
He was pretty good. He hit a few.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think he he missed one that would have been
for sure a field goal on normal size fil go post.
And then he had one that I thought was a miss,
you thought was a make. It was a little too
high to know.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
To know for sure.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It was too high to know from our affinity it was.
It was too high to know from our angle, That's
what I was saying. It could have been a good one.
And then he had a few right down the middle
to end. The more you can do. Yeah, and Andy
Dalton isn't the epitome of that. You know, he can hold,
he can kick, he can quarterback. My favorite thing though,
is that whenever they're in a team drill and Andy
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takes off running, watch watch this, test me on this.
If Andy Dalton takes off on a none designed.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Scramble in a team drill, drill ends right there.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, welove to whistle. We don't We don't need anything
bad happening. And yes, as a matter of fact, I
do have an Andy Dalton head on a stick. Uh,
this is going to be today's item for on the
shelf back there. I've had a lot more of these
and we're gonna have some fun with those over the
course of the season.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But Uh, yeah, Andy's one of those dudes. I just
believe he is a I.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Mean, he's a very good tennis player, right, and his
wife played tennis here in town. His wife's a better
tennis player than he is, but he is apparently quite good.
He owns part of a soccer team that's in the
English Premier League. He's always out there dribbling, doing ball tricks,
you know, when he's killing time.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
He's practically a specialist.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It actually makes sense that he's been holding while Sam
Martin was on the shelf for kicks.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Because he's like an honorary specialist.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, he's has a lotther time with them too, doing
a lot of those.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Can you assume today or didn't you guess today?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I bet he could juggle?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think if I walked in and handed Andy Dalton
three oranges, he could juggle on.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So can you juggle?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
What's this skill Cassidy Hill has that we don't know about?
Hidden talent?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Well, I grew up on a farm, so I can
ride a horse.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, that counts equestrian ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I can pick out I don't play piano well, but
I can pick it out.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
By ear enough on a piano to get a song out.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
All right.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
See this is why I hired her. She's multi talented,
she's got a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, that piano thing really comes into this.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well. You know, I just like people who are curious
and know how to do a lot of cool stuff.
And Andy Dalton knows how to do cool stuff, including
drop kicking, which we haven't seen in a game in
a long long time. But if it ever comes up,
Andy Dalton, now we know is capable of doing.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Who used to drop kick kicks?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Who of one of the most versatile heismans of our time?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Not our time, maybe your time.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Our times are different.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Podcast Matt knows. Oh no, that's not who I was
thinking of. I was thinking of Steve Spurrier.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, Doug Flutie was from another time. Yeah, Steve Spurrier
was of my time. I'm almost ashamed to admit that
Steve Spurrier is also the reason I did not play
fantasy football for twenty one years, because twenty in two
thousand and two, when he coached Washington, my brilliant plan
the night of the draft was to not only draft
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one of his quarterbacks, but to draft all of his quarterbacks.
And I said the night of the draft, I am
either gonna win this league by a mile or finish DL.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And I was right.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I don't know if you can blame that on spur
your I think that's.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
A youth thing.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
His system cost me a fantasy football title or something.
I can't believe that the law firm of Patrick Ramsey,
Danny Wirfel, and Shane Matthews did.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Not lead me to glory. But here we are.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I would take Andy Dalton on a stick over any
of those guys. All right, we've done enough damage to
this studio, We've done enough damage to your ear holes.
We will be back tomorrow with more interesting nuggets from
a padded practice. Hopefully it's a little more exciting than
today's was, but we will have some highlights.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
And I do think there's stuff you're gonna want to see.
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Speaker 2 (19:02):
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Speaker 1 (19:10):
We'll see you tomorrow on the Happy half out
Happy half Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hello friends, welcome to the Tuesday edition. And I put
up two fingers because I'm not a very smart person,
because Tuesday is the second day of the week. Is
we learned in Winnie the Pooh about a million years ago,
Happy Tuesday. And it was a little bit lighter Tuesday.
We were all lathered up real live football yesterday and
that was cool, but today was a much It was
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like a recovery day.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It was a reset day after a pads day and
a pads day coming tomorrow too.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, it would have a breather.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
This would be the part of the podcast where I'd
go old man and start yelling at clouds.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And back in my day.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We did today and it was one hundred degrees and
we liked it.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
No, it's there was definitely some of that after the
cooling trailer the other day. Yeah, and it was I
work outside in the heat, and I'm like, I don't
think you're working quite the same, but okay.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Not the same as what these cats are doing, but
that is the way they were. It's kind of a
ramp up period for everybody. So today was a little
bit lighter day. Run around in shorts about an hour
and twenty something like that. Yeah, they're going to get
back after it tomorrow and pads and it'll look more
like football. Today was another one of those seven on
seven days like we've seen so much of.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, that days for a couple of guys to you know,
one of those days where it was get some of
the younger guys, some reps a chance to kind of
come in and do something as well. And like you said,
a lot of seven on seven. I think there was
a team run period, but even that was just kind.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Of thudding up. Nothing crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, nobody going to the ground when they're not in pads.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know, Trevin Wallace and Cuba Hubbard aren't duking it
out or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But yeah, people tried to make that a thing.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Not it really wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was just a football thing.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But there was a little bit of news today, and
let's go with that right out of the top. Derrick
Brown was kind of on the side doing return to
play stuff rather than practicing as normal as he has been.
Dave Canal has said after practice he's had a little
bit of an a bleak strain. Nothing that they went
and got mrit or anything like that. But because it's
Derek Brown. You make sure you give him time. They
(02:07):
were giving Derek time anyway. Derek was kind of easing
into this thing anyway. So when he feels a little
something and it's Derek Brown, you let him work it out.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, And he's not in a huge rush. I mean
there's still like five weeks until the season starts, something
like that, any weeks and I know there's a game
next week, it's a preseason game, but Derek knows what
to do and how to get ready. And I know
it's you're still gonna want to get some rush shaken
off because he hasn't played in almost a year. But
I'm not worried about his ability to know the playbook.
(02:39):
When he steps out there, it is gonna look a
little different because he hasn't played with a lot of
these guys. You know, that's something that Sean Robinson even
talked about today. You know, it being a little bit
of a weird dynamic because they spent the past year
getting to know each other pretty well, but they haven't
actually played that me snaps together in a game, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What does that look like? And you know that is
by design.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
You know, Derek's kind of like taking all that offseason
stuff they did and add a top ten pick and
one hundred million dollar contract to it, so he you know,
everything in Canals was very careful to say.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It wasn't an ee. You know, it's almost like nothing
to see here. But Derek's gonna be all right.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And actually, on a light day like today, you know,
they don't even have pads on. If Derek Brown needs
to walk her off to the side and kind of
stretch some stuffed out right stretch some stuff out, not
a big deal.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
There was one other injury that's gonna take him Inute
Chandler Zavalla, the former fourth round pick who has started
nine games in the last two years.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He's a spot starter at guard, has.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Stepped in at times done a good job when he's
been in there. Chandler's gonna miss a couple of weeks.
I mean, Dave described it as a patill attendon injury,
not a patill attending rupture that would have been much worse,
which actually happened coincidentally in a one on one pass
rush drill with Derek Brown. You know, you got two
guys of that size pushing on each other sometimes stuff.
(04:00):
Unfortunately for Chandler first day in pads, he's gonna miss time.
I mean, Dave described it as weeks, and usually when
coaches go week to week instead of day to day,
that means it's probably going to be multiple weeks.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So it's a shame for Chandler.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I mean a because he's pretty good player, is part
of a really deep and good offensive line. We've talked
about that a lot this offseason. I mean, when you
bring back your top nine guys in snaps from the
year before and really layer in a bunch of guys
who were still around. Canal has talked about that in
the aftermath of the injury, just that all the guys
(04:37):
who are getting snaps there now are people that are
familiar with whether it's Jarrick Kingston, who was one of
the six guys claimed off waivers after final cuts after
initial cuts.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I broke my own rule, Darren stuff. Don't do that
ever again.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
We're coming up close on that too. You better get
it together.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I got to tighten that up. That's like people who
call lecterns podiums. Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
People stand on a podium behind elector.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
This is the hill he has chosen to die and
I'm going to somebody said, what do you call it that?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Because that's what it's called.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So anyway, Kingston was claimed in and cuts to fifty
three last year from San Francisco, where he was a
six round pick. He was around all last year. To
Terry Carter, just call him JT. Make it easy on yourself.
JT is a guy who's on practice squad last year.
And then you got super sub Brady Christiansen, who can
play any position on the offensive line up to an
(05:31):
including tight end.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So Brady's around there. He started a bunch of games
at guard, he was sixteen games starter at guard in
twenty two. Can do that job well. So I mean
they're covered for people to do the thing. I just
hate it for Chandler. Yeah, because in addition to being
pretty good football player, Chandler Zavala has one of the
bright spirits in this room. I believe it is my
(05:54):
conviction that there is nothing you could ask Chandler Zavala
to do that he would not agree to.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Happily.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We need you to go to Germany and put on
later hoses. Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah, happy.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And you know, to your point about having so many
guys though, that you know behind him, that you already
know and trust. Dave Canals made the point today he said,
I don't know if in fifteen years, I've ever been
a part of a team that returned pretty much the
entire offensive line unit. Yeah, He's like, that's that's an
insane thing to be able to say and to be
able to do right.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
They're not all for times like they're not nine deep
and guys they know from last year.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
They're about thirteen deep. Guys they know from last year.
Unheard of because.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know the other one that we've talked about is
Brandon Walton. He's a guy who stepped in. He was
active for a game last year, up for a game.
He is like the David Moore of the offensive line room.
Coaches know him. They brought him with him from Tampa Bay.
You know, hey, we know what you're capable of. So
you know, they've got a bunch of dudes they can
fill in. Just a shame for Chandler's of all. In
addition to going to Germany, he was one of our
(06:56):
goat yoga guys.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Some of the I'm into it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
My favorite content on Panthers dot Com during the summer
was goat yoga with a lot of offensive linemen and
Chandler of course.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Forting out there doing his actual yoga. Yeah, everybody else
is playing with the goats and turks over there like
in Downward Dog, and he's like, this is.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
My Monday yoga. That's right, and then or go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
No, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I mean, it's like I said, it's one of those
things that happens in training camp when guys are beating
and banging against each other.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's an unfortunate part of it.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But every you know, every camp, something like this happens,
and those guys move on. The good news is the
Carolina Panthers are built to withstand stuff at that position
better than a lot of other teams would be, or
better than they had been in the past.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And it doesn't seem like it's going to be a long,
long recovery, at least as far as where we stand
right now on you know, July twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, all these injuries are different, and you never get
into business of predicting somebody else's stuff. But when Canalis
was willing to say, you know, maybe getting back out
here before the end of camp. That's a pir that's
a reasonable sign. So wishing the best for Chandlers of
Allah in his recovery. That was h Once you get
through that kind of news today wasn't news heavy.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
No wide receiver change this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yep, Dan Chisenna is gone. Dan had been on the
PP list with a little calf injury. That h that
was not allowing him to get on the field. He
was waved injured. I don't know that we've seen the
last of Dan Shison necessarily. I think guys like that
tend to go away for a little bit and then
maybe when they're well come back. I mean, the thing
(08:33):
about Dan is we talk so much about receiver receiver
competition on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
It feels like it's an every day it is. It
feels like every.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Single day in a Dave of Canalis press conference, he
gets asked about receiver competition and he gives a version
of the same answer.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Dave's a polite guy.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
He tries to mix it up for the people asking
who may not have been here the day before.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But yeah, we've talked about that a good bit.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Dan wasn't one of those guys you think of in
terms of oh, my gosh, the plays he makes on offense.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He made a lot of plays on special teams. He's
a super.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Fast guy, four three forty track guy at Penn State
before he was ever a football player. And you know
they're going to be looking for some special teams. Guys
brought in just seeing Reid, who is a undrafted rookie
from the University of San Diego and San Diego. Yeah, okay,
I believe it's Spanish for old wooden boats I had.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Have you ever seen the movie Anchorman?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No? Actually I haven't. Isn't that crazy? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Friends, we've broken news here. We've got a tremendous blind
spot which must be corrected.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I don't know why I've never seen it. I've seen
bits and pieces of it here and there, like if
it's on TV or you know, clips of it'll come
across Twitter or something. But for whatever reason, I just
never sat down to watch the whole thing. I have
nothing against Anchorman. I like Will Ferrell is one of
those you know, It's one of those that I'll quote
at times.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I'm writing down in my notebook. Has never seen Anchorman.
This is like homework. You've got to You've got to
remedy this before the end of training.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's like it has all those iconic lines like I'm
in a glass case of emotion and the rich mahogany,
Like it's got all these great moments and you know
the one that I'm not going to say on a mic, yes,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
But it's got all these great moments. I know the movie.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I've just never I think I've seen more of the
second one than I have of the first one.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I don't know. Why isn't I Love Lamp? Also from Anchorman?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah? And then sixty percent of the time it works
every time.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
That's right, See, I got I know all these lines.
I just never saw it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Hey, podcast, Matt, do you think we could get sex
Panther to sponsor the Happy half Hour?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What do you think? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Sixty percent of the time this podcast works every time.
I don't know any.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
One of the days it might not be working.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Where where were we we were talking receiver competition? Yeah,
we were talking about wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
The one one thing that happened today that kind of
popped out, cause again it's a day that didn't him
why we're going to talk about wide receivers here at
Panthers dot Com and on the Happy Half Hour. Jimmy
Horn did a thing today. He actually did a couple
of things. Scored a touchdown early, it'll a dance with JT.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Sanders.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm not really going to replicate the dance because that
would be bad, but.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
During you're not quite as smooth as him.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Maybe just slightly less.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Also, earlier in the day, on the other direction of
the field, he kind of took a pop. I mean,
they weren't in pads today, but there was a little
bit of a collision and Jimmy just kind of immediately
popped up and started dancing again, which was much more
pronounced than the touchdown dance. Actually, But for a little guy,
he ain't afraid to run around in there in the
(11:42):
middle of the field.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
And now it's talked about that a good.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Bit, even talked about him being willing to go out
there and block during the run game. I'm going to
be completely honest, and then if this is a reflection
on me, then so be it. When they're out there
doing a run and play, I'm not paying that much
attention to Jimmy Horn, but apparently I need to start
because he said, you know you see him even out
there being willing to kind of take on those blocks
and create holes. And now I'm really curious what Jimmy Horn,
(12:08):
the blocker in a run game looks like.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, that's even more homework. We're great to check with.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Which is more important than that? Are anchorman?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
We'll see? Well, those are of equal importance to me, honestly.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
But you know, wide receivers usually notoriously don't like to
block anyways. And so to have somebody that is kind
of you know, a speedster guy, run guy and being
willing to go out there and do it, you know,
that says a lot about Jimmy Horn. And you know,
we've heard people from Colorado, especially Deon Sangers, talk about
how much they love Jimmy's heart and Jimmy's want to
(12:41):
and you know, we're starting to see it here.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, no doubt he's a scrappy little fell I think, yeah, yeah,
I think if you're under five foot nine, you get
described as scrappy.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Whether you are scrappy or not.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
We're gonna there's not many adjectives that you can use
at that point, so we'll go as scrappy.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, we'll go with that. And Jimmy is though.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I mean, he's got that little fearlessness about his game
because he does fly around, put himself into unusual positions,
gets in the air, you know, not afraid to go
up and make plays. Yes, I know, don't get carried
away people before you compare him to that other little, short,
scrappy guy who is a not first round pick here thirughly. Yet,
let's give Jimmy time to grow into whatever Jimmy's gonna be.
(13:19):
But I do like the fact that, you know, Canal
has talked about that competitiveness and that enthusiasm for a
guy who is not built like the rest of these dudes.
If you look at that receiver room, Canal has called
it his basketball team. There's a bunch of interesting There's
a bunch of big dudes in there, from McMillan to
Bryce and Tremaine, who's about who looks like he's about
(13:41):
six sixty seven or something to forty or something.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
He's a fairly gigantic kid. A lot of size in
that room. And then there's Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah he's uh so, would Jimmy be your because you're
talking about it, you know, being different body types.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Would Jimmy be your shooting guard.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
He might be my Muggsy Bogues.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
You're muggy.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
He might be my Bogues on this team, and God
bless Muggsy Bogues Hornet's legends.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So then Leget would be he's not big enough. He's
not big enough to be a center. I'd put Bryce
and to remain at my center.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
We're gonna we're gonna stretch this metaphor till it breaks.
You know, we.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Could we could go down to maybe you know what,
ball no or Bryce Young might be the guy to
break this down.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Here is even more to get at.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I put leg get at my forward, feeling at my
point guard.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Maybe basketball. We got a team back at a forward.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, what are we running? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's uh, we're running late, is what we're running. I
don't know what, what time is it? What else happened
in practice for fifteen minutes until until we get to
the bottom of this. Oh, I know what else was happening.
The coolest thing we saw in practice today was.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Andy Dalton drop kicking thirty yard field goals.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
That's right, Andy Dalton.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
He was pretty good. He hit a few.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think he he missed one that would have been
for sure a field goal on normal size fil go post.
And then he had one that I thought was a miss,
you thought was a make. It was a little too
high to know.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
To know for sure.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It was too high to know from our affinity it was.
It was too high to know from our angle, That's
what I was saying. It could have been a good one.
And then he had a few right down the middle
to end. The more you can do. Yeah, and Andy
Dalton isn't the epitome of that. You know, he can hold,
he can kick, he can quarterback. My favorite thing though,
is that whenever they're in a team drill and Andy
(15:38):
takes off running, watch watch this, test me on this.
If Andy Dalton takes off on a none designed.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Scramble in a team drill, drill ends right there.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, welove to whistle. We don't We don't need anything
bad happening. And yes, as a matter of fact, I
do have an Andy Dalton head on a stick. Uh,
this is going to be today's item for on the
shelf back there. I've had a lot more of these
and we're gonna have some fun with those over the
course of the season.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But Uh, yeah, Andy's one of those dudes. I just
believe he is a I.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Mean, he's a very good tennis player, right, and his
wife played tennis here in town. His wife's a better
tennis player than he is, but he is apparently quite good.
He owns part of a soccer team that's in the
English Premier League. He's always out there dribbling, doing ball tricks,
you know, when he's killing time.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
He's practically a specialist.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It actually makes sense that he's been holding while Sam
Martin was on the shelf for kicks.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Because he's like an honorary specialist.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, he's has a lotther time with them too, doing
a lot of those.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Can you assume today or didn't you guess today?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I bet he could juggle?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think if I walked in and handed Andy Dalton
three oranges, he could juggle on.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So can you juggle?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
What's this skill Cassidy Hill has that we don't know about?
Hidden talent?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Well, I grew up on a farm, so I can
ride a horse.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, that counts equestrian ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I can pick out I don't play piano well, but
I can pick it out.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
By ear enough on a piano to get a song out.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
All right.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
See this is why I hired her. She's multi talented,
she's got a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, that piano thing really comes into this.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well. You know, I just like people who are curious
and know how to do a lot of cool stuff.
And Andy Dalton knows how to do cool stuff, including
drop kicking, which we haven't seen in a game in
a long long time. But if it ever comes up,
Andy Dalton, now we know is capable of doing.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Who used to drop kick kicks?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Who of one of the most versatile heismans of our time?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Not our time, maybe your time.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Our times are different.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Podcast Matt knows. Oh no, that's not who I was
thinking of. I was thinking of Steve Spurrier.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, Doug Flutie was from another time. Yeah, Steve Spurrier
was of my time. I'm almost ashamed to admit that
Steve Spurrier is also the reason I did not play
fantasy football for twenty one years, because twenty in two
thousand and two, when he coached Washington, my brilliant plan
the night of the draft was to not only draft
(18:09):
one of his quarterbacks, but to draft all of his quarterbacks.
And I said the night of the draft, I am
either gonna win this league by a mile or finish DL.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And I was right.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I don't know if you can blame that on spur
your I think that's.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
A youth thing.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
His system cost me a fantasy football title or something.
I can't believe that the law firm of Patrick Ramsey,
Danny Wirfel, and Shane Matthews did.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Not lead me to glory. But here we are.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I would take Andy Dalton on a stick over any
of those guys. All right, we've done enough damage to
this studio, We've done enough damage to your ear holes.
We will be back tomorrow with more interesting nuggets from
a padded practice. Hopefully it's a little more exciting than
today's was, but we will have some highlights.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
And I do think there's stuff you're gonna want to see.
Panthers dot Com.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Check the YouTube channel, hit the subscribe button, get all
of this stuff flowing straight into your screens and tablets
and all the devices that the young people use.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
We'll see you tomorrow on the Happy half out
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