August 1, 2025 • 20 mins
Today on the Happy Half Hour, Darin and Kassidy react to Dave Canales saying he plans on playing starters in the preseason, emphasize the importance of doing all the small things right, get pumped for Fan Fest, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Half Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hello friends, welcome to the Friday edition of The Happy
Half Hour. And I gotta tell you, training camp's got
us feel in some kind of way in this studio. Ah,
what is Austin Corbett done?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
You look at this man?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
That's how it feels deat this point of training camp
and we're not even halfway through it.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We shouldn't do that to Austin Corbett. He's a nice man,
all right.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right, man, we us to make faces at the
camera too.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He does make faces, all right. Enough of the silly hijinks.
We got a lot of football stuff to talk about today, Casie.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We do, Yeah, we do. There's a lot of football today,
especially knowing that there's going to be not quite live
but close to live football tomorrow at FanFest.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That's right to go hard.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Today was kind of a little like, oh, okay, you know,
not every team would do that, but this is what
Canalis wants to see out of his team. Somebody asked him,
you know, what would you call this level of intensity today?
It was between thud and live. He said, no, this
is what I would call thud hmm. And I was like, okay,
that's a that's quite a thudding, thud.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
There's a difference between thud and thud. Yes, it was
Austin Corbett face.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, it was definitely Austin Corbett face thud, not just thud.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah it was. It was quite a day. We'll get
to all that. Today brought a headline.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Dave Canalis broke a little news in that press conference
while he was talking to us today. Something we kind
of expected starters playing some preseason football. Maybe that's why
Austin was making that face. Yeah, Starter's gonna go into
first two preseason games. Dave said that, you know, after
he went through the thing last year where the starters
really didn't play much in games one, Game two.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Had the drive in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
If you remember that, preseason football leaves those kind of
indelible memories in me.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Right, those twelve plays, man.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's right, those twelve plays changed a lot. But now
he's going to play these guys, and he talked about
wanting to get them in the mode of knowing what
game day was like, getting ready. It's the night before,
it's get your rest, fuel yourself up, hydrate, do all
the things so you're ready to go the next day.
And he wants those guys to have that experience doing that.
But I also think that the memory of last year
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and the way last year started right, probably they played
a little something in this decision too.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And he was careful to not just straight out say that,
but he also admitted, you know, you have to reevaluate
what worked last year what didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I mean, you come out that first game against the
Saints and we don't have to rehash it. It was
not pretty and kind of do the same thing in
Week two against the Chargers. Who's to say, Who's to
say if playing all the preseason games last year would
have made a difference, but we saw what happened. Okay,
let's try a different tactic this year. And he made
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that to your point about you know, knowing how to
get yourself ready and get yourself together and get hyped up.
Made the point too that, especially on defense, it's a
lot of new guys, some rookies, a lot of free agents,
but you just want them to go through that process together.
You know, of who's gonna always lose their socks, who's
gonna find them? You want that figured out during the preseason,
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not the regular season.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You went socks there.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
My kids probably hate John wood In, the legendary UC coach,
because I would steal his line and tell them how
to put on their socks.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
The right way.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Because John Wooden would always take his players like Bill
Walton back in the seventies and he would spend part
of their first practice teaching them how to pull their
socks on tightly incorrectly so they wouldn't get a blister
because of basketball player with the blister's no good to
the team. So he wanted to make sure everybody was
doing those little things.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And that's what sucks.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And that's what Dave's talking about, with the hydration, with
the rest, with you know, just getting your mind right
to play some football. And so he's going to give
him an opportunity to do some of that stuff. I honestly,
I have always been a little ambivalent about preseason snaps
because there is no one true way to preseason if
we look across the league. I mean, Jalen Hurts didn't
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play a single snap in the preseason last year.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That worked okay for him, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
But on the other hand, Pat Mahomes is a regular
in the preseason and he'll go out there and play
you know, big twenty snap segments going out there well
into the second quarter with his team, and they've done
pretty well with that too.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So it's a.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Little bit all over the place. Certain teams do it,
certain teams don't. It's based on the philosophy of the coach.
But you can find examples in either direction of people
who don't play their guys and it works, people who
don't play their guys and it don't.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So they tried one way last year, try this way
this year, see which one works better.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, that's right, And this is more kind of the
norm I mean, and it gets back to what used
to be the old preseason method, which was a little
bit in game one, a little bit more in game two.
Game three was like that dress rehearsal. Game four, nobody
played right. So now we're just gonna build into it
a little bit and give those guys a shot.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They've said that, they've said that when he got to.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Week three of the preseason, he'd kind of look back,
see what the practice is like, see how they were,
and then make a decision on Week three at that time.
But for the for the short term, what that means
is when you folks, and I know you're all coming
next weekend to see the Carolina Panthers open the preseason
against Cleveland Browns. You'll see some actual football with actual
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football players right out there, right out of the choot,
by the way, and other news that was broken today.
We need a breaking news sounder, mad, do we have one?
I don't even know what that was. That sounded more
like ty web pudding breaking news, you know what?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I'm trying to do? That done? What's like? Are the.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Something like that? Sure, we'll get a trumpet.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I think maybe we can get Austin Corbett to play
it for us, or Austin could be our breaking news visual.
But anyway, jersey schedule out this morning. I know you're
excited about that. And if you refer to your jersey
schedule on Panthers dot com, you'll know that next Friday night,
when we play the Cleveland Browns right here in this building,
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they'll be wearing blue.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's not on the big graphic. But that's good.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't see Browns on here.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's okay, that's right. You got to read the story.
That's the lesson. Don't just look at the headline headlines.
Click on the link. Read the story. There's helpful information.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
On the lot of I mean not a lot, but
relative to other years, a good bit of black and blue.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yep, a little more than last year. Teams can wear
their alternates four times.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That's right. That means alternate uniforms and an alternate helmet
in an additional time. I believe it as well.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And you can wear your alternate helmet with multiple different
colors of things. So yeah, it's you know, that's there
for you on Panthers dot com if that's a thing
that interest you.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Have you seen the leather alternate helmet for this year.
I don't know if I like it or not.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Is it only going to be worn by J J. Jansen?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
No, it should be. It's with the Packers throwback like
they're for the throwback game. They're wearing like their original
nineteen twenty stole or colors and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
So they're making an actual helmet look.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Like helmet is painted to look leather. I think it
could look cool on TV.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Maybe if it snows.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Maybe you never know. Yeah, I wonder what we I
wonder if they wear those when the Panthers play.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
We shall see. But anyway, back to football. We've discussed
helmets are football, Yeah, sort of.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Fashion's not really my deal when it comes to when
it comes to uniform discussions and stuff like that. I'm
an old I get it. I'm not the target audience.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
That's for the young people. They like all the different things.
I'm a traditionalist. I like the black jersey, the silver breeches,
That's what I see. Sam Mills in Luke Keighley describes
that as his favorite combination as well. So anyway, back
to football, Speaking of Luke Keigley and Sam Mills, this
was a rather dominant day for the defense and it,
(08:00):
says Dan Canallis described it, there were interceptions, uh plural,
a lot of them. JC got them, Merley Shaw Smith,
Wade got him late.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Show Smith Way closed out practice. There an interception.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
There was a bunch of stuff happening today and most
of it was good for that defense.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
There was even a dropped interception Swilling or new defensive back.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
But it was Yeah, it was all up and down
the roster. Jacoby Wynman, one of the backup into linebackers,
gets up in the air and tips the ball. I mean,
you had guys making place where it's like, okay, I
mean there were they were going down to three levels
deep in this practice.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
The Jacoby Winman interception, I just I want to walk
people through it here for a second, because I don't
know if there's video of it. It was it was
almost funny. So I can't remember if it was Bryce
or Andy. I can't remember who threw it. I'm sorry,
but was targeting Jimmy Horn, I believe, and Reid number
thirty five gets his hand in there and and pops
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it and it pops up into the air and Jacobe
Whenman grabs it for the interception, he starts running it back. Now,
running it back is a loose term in training camp
in practice because there's no like set necessarily, there's a
section where everybody stands, and that's pretty much the end
of the field, even if it's only twenty yards. But
he runs it into that crowd and he starts to
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kind of bobble it. Damian Lewis comes out of nowhere
and just like flattens him. There was no way they
were going to let him quote unquote score on that play,
that's right, But yeah, the Damien Lewis part was definitely
the funniest part.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, all, Damian Lewis tackle is not necessarily anything they
want to see on a routine basis, but you know, somebody,
somebody will still get tackled. At the end of the
Shaw interception, late Rob Hunt was kind of into the
vicinity and sort of made a move toward him, and
I said, I don't know that they want to see
Rob Hunt hitting Shaw Smith way.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
The Shaw interception the one that ended practice. It was
it was a pass to TMAC and Shaw just jumped it.
He played it perfectly. He played off just enough that
Bryce didn't see him, and then he jumped right in
the lane and grabbed it and like he threw it
right to him, ran it back yet again, another play,
yet again proving how good of a camp Shaw Smith
(10:15):
Wade has had.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
He He is a guy who came in he was
basically exclusively an outside corner in college, comes here and
mostly because he was small.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
They said, hey, you're gonna be a nickel f They said.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You're a nickel now, let's learn how to do this.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And Troy Hill, the old salty Vet, was here year
before last and first half of last year to kind
of mentor him through that process. And Shaw was kind
of learning on the fly, like a lot of guys
last year, being cast into new roles, and he's kind
of flourished in it is sort of making it in
his own. He's a confident kid anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yes he is.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He is not your typical rookie who's like yes or no, sir,
may I please have another? I mean he is. He's
got some assertiveness about himself, and so seeing him take
that job and kind of make it hit his own
and take ownership of it. I mean, you talked the
other day. He's a guy who will call people up.
He's a guy who will get older guys and talk
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to them about what needed to happen in there, and
that communications often the last thing a young player learns
to be able to play.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Another guy who had a real confident moment today JT Sanders.
He caught like three different touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Today every time, and fairness, all of JT.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Sanders moments are true.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There was one moment where he does a little shoulder
move to shake his defender, gets the ball I believe
it was from Bryce and turns in to score the
touchdown and was standing there with Joe Person of the
Athletic and we just both busted out laughing because you
could tell, even through the helmet, you could tell the
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exact moment. JT noticed the camera on the other side
of the end zone and he did the little spin
the ball trick that was the talk of the town
on Wednesday. He spuns the ball, he crossed, this is
his arm. He does a mean mug for the camera
and poses and then just turns back and walks away,
just and walks down the defensive sideline to get back
to the huddle.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's right, he knew.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, it was a great little moment.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And you know what, it's evidence of all the fantastic
shooters and videographers we've got here at Panthers dot Com
and the Carolina Panthers YouTube channel that brings you all
this stuff. We love the visuals. We got so much
stuff today. I don't know that we can even.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Use it all.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I know, there really was a lot today.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But we are sure gonna try.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
A couple other news and notes from today's practice, A
little bit of injury update stuff. Mike Jack was back
on the field. He was out for a couple of
days with a little toe deal. Not a little toe deal,
but a little a mild and he's back on the
field day, back in uniform, doing his Mike Jack thing.
Thomas Encombe sideline. Thomas Incombe was the guy taking advantage.
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I was looked down at my notes. He was a
guy taking advantage of the fact they got thinned out
at outside linebacker a little bit. Nick Gorton sidelined with
a hamstring and DJ Johnson kind of felt something during
practice in a hip. Dave Canal said he had a
hip thing and they're getting that checked out for the
scientific term, probably as we speak. So hope for the
best for DJ, who was having a really good camp.
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But with those two out, Incomb was the guy stepping up,
getting a lot of reps and making a good many plays.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, he really kind of flashed today. Everybody on defense
flash today, but you know, Incomb took advantage of those
snaps he had, which is exactly what you're supposed to
do during training camp. Hunter Renfro was another one. Yeah,
he was out there all day, he was involved in
huddles and whatnot, but still just kind of sidelined again
today as he gets better.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yep, And Dave said, you know, he asked Hunter earlier
this week, you know, if it was a game this week,
would you play? And Hunter was like, well, yeah, I'm playing,
But I think that's going to be the answer. If
he's out there on one leg, he'd be like Black
Knight in Monty Python's he's playing.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
After find away coach, after what he's.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Been through the last couple of years. He playing if
he's got an opportunity to play. So anyway, a lot
of stuff going on today. Talk to tim Ac a
little bit after press.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, he was a lot of you know, he just
comes in with some bangor one liners here and there.
He had like four or five today that were just like, oh,
I'm you know Mark that I'm gonna use that. Yeah,
he had one where it was talking about going up
against the DBS. Here. He's like, you know, sometimes even
the best get got talking about himself. You know, he
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was talking about the physicality of the NFL especially, and
you know, this is a guy if you go back
and watch his college tape from Arizona, he didn't get
pressed a whole lot, and some of that was just
packed twelve defense. Some of that is whatever was called
for in their game plan. But he didn't get pressed
a ton and that was one of the that was
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one of the few things that was kind of a
not a negative, but something to watch for in his
game during the whole draft process and the scouting report
on t Mac was what is he gonna do when
he it's pressed? And that's they have pressed him a
lot in camp. And that's not to say that's always
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going to be the case in a game, but if
it is, they want him to be prepared. And so
JC and Mike Jack have taken that to heart and
we're like, Okay, you want to get your boy prepared.
We're going to make sure he's ready.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And he talked about today you know that that requires
He's like, I know I'm a big bodied receiver, but
I've also always kind of been smooth. I need to
be more physical essentially, and learning to be more physical.
And he also made the comment he said, you know,
we've got the refs out here. I know I'm still
a young guy. I'm not going to get those calls yet,
so I got to figure out how to work that
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to my system. He also talked about the one handed
catches that really kind of popped off the other day,
which I mean when you're six four and you've got
a wingspan like that, and you've got hands that size
that can pull in a ball like that. That's obviously
going to be the flashy stuff that people are gravitating towards.
And he's like, I know y'all might not believe me,
but I promise I only do that if I have to,
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And that's not the first choice. That's not how you
want to catch a ball.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I mean when you look at the pictures and
God bless hawx Herko and Andrews stuff. Yeah, who were
ripping out so many good images from this training camp.
It feels like there's something of t mac just pulling
a thing out of the sky with one hand every day.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
There was one he from the other day. He had
the jumpman gloves all because he is a jumpman Michael
Jordan athlete, and the pose he was doing to catch
it looked like jumpman, that's right, and it was epic.
But he you know, like you said today, those are
not necessarily how you want to catch it. But it's
this trick he's going to have in his bag the
more than anything, what he wants to know is that
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his catch radius is there to serve price and I
think that's what we're seeing a little bit more and more,
and you're seeing him bounce back. You know, he said,
I'd be the first to tell you I've had some
bad days. I've also had some good days. You know,
how do you bounce back from it? And that's what
Canalis really kind of gave him credit for on Wednesday
as well, his ability to do that.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, no doubt, No doubt.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
A couple other odds and ends before we get out
of here for the weekend. It's Hall of Fame weekend.
Is it's the happiest place on earth. I'm even wearing
the quarter zip from Can't and Ohio.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Jared ever disappears, he's probably going to be in Canton, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's the happiest place on earth, Can't Ohio because once
you get there, everybody's in a good mood. You're celebrating
the cool stuff about football that we all love and
not worrying about all the bad stuff that everybody hates.
I am an unabashed homer when it comes to the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I love going there.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I love seeing the people there, I love celebrating all
the good stuff about football, and that we all enjoy.
So it is Hall of Fame weekend and we've got
a sort of tie to the Carolina Panthers at the
Hall this weekend. Panthers legend Jared Allen, and we were
fortunate enough we got to go up in May and
sit down with Jared a little bit, talk to him,
interview him about his twelve games he played here after
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being traded in mid season early in the year, and
we've got a story up on Panthers dot com right now.
We put it up last night about the trade itself
and kind of what went into the trade. Talked to
Dave Gettlman, the then GM, Brandon Bean who was the
assistant GM at the time, now the GM of the
Buffalo Bills, Ron Rivera, Sean McDermott, all the dudes who
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were involved in it, and Jared himself some interesting stuff.
We got some more Jared on the way coming up
for you tomorrow heading into Enshrinman. I'm hoping he mentions
the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
In his speech. I mean, because the.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Way he has talked about it, he has always referred
to his time here is when football became fun again.
He went through kind of a bad scene at the
end in Minnesota, goes to Chicago because he wanted to,
and then Chicago changed coaches and gms and it was
a bad scene again. And he basically went to him
and said, please let me go to Carolina. And he
ended up in Carolina and got to play in a
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super Bowl and what amounts to his hometown. So check
that out about Jared Allen. I've got last year's credential
from the Hall of Fame hanging on our shelf of Fame.
Back here, that shelf of Fame, the Shelf of Fame,
and that was from when Julius Pepper's went into the
Hall last year. Of course, two years ago Sam Mills
went in. We believe we'll be back there soon. There's
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a there's a fellow named Luke Keighley and a little
guy named Steve Smith, who y'all might have heard of,
who are eligible and we're finalists last year. We'll see
if we make our way back to the happiest place
on Earth. Yeah, but I'm skipping the happiest place on
Earth this year. You know why because FanFest is Manfest
is tomorrow night. Y'all come join us. Bank of America Stadium.
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Five dollar tickets All proceeds benefit Panthers charities.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
There's gonna be live football.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
It's a good deal.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
There's going to be live looking football, some of that
thud plus football that makes Austin Corbett make the Austin
Corbett face.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Matt's looking at me like, do I have to put
it up there again?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's right, Austin Corbett will be making the face there
it is.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
You won't look like that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
If you come to FanFest, you'll have a big old
smile on your face. So come join us Bank of
America Stadium tomorrow night. FanFest six thirty Eight's open at
five five dollars. Tickets Proceeds benefit Panthers charities. Come show,
fireworks and lasers, lasers, sharks with lasers on their heads.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Everything is at fan Fast. We'll see y'all tomorrow night.
We'll see y'all next week on the Happy Half Hour.
Happy Half Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hello friends, welcome to the Friday edition of The Happy
Half Hour. And I gotta tell you, training camp's got
us feel in some kind of way in this studio. Ah,
what is Austin Corbett done?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
You look at this man?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
That's how it feels deat this point of training camp
and we're not even halfway through it.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We shouldn't do that to Austin Corbett. He's a nice man,
all right.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right, man, we us to make faces at the
camera too.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He does make faces, all right. Enough of the silly hijinks.
We got a lot of football stuff to talk about today, Casie.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We do, Yeah, we do. There's a lot of football today,
especially knowing that there's going to be not quite live
but close to live football tomorrow at FanFest.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That's right to go hard.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Today was kind of a little like, oh, okay, you know,
not every team would do that, but this is what
Canalis wants to see out of his team. Somebody asked him,
you know, what would you call this level of intensity today?
It was between thud and live. He said, no, this
is what I would call thud hmm. And I was like, okay,
that's a that's quite a thudding, thud.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
There's a difference between thud and thud. Yes, it was
Austin Corbett face.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, it was definitely Austin Corbett face thud, not just thud.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah it was. It was quite a day. We'll get
to all that. Today brought a headline.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Dave Canalis broke a little news in that press conference
while he was talking to us today. Something we kind
of expected starters playing some preseason football. Maybe that's why
Austin was making that face. Yeah, Starter's gonna go into
first two preseason games. Dave said that, you know, after
he went through the thing last year where the starters
really didn't play much in games one, Game two.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Had the drive in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
If you remember that, preseason football leaves those kind of
indelible memories in me.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Right, those twelve plays, man.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's right, those twelve plays changed a lot. But now
he's going to play these guys, and he talked about
wanting to get them in the mode of knowing what
game day was like, getting ready. It's the night before,
it's get your rest, fuel yourself up, hydrate, do all
the things so you're ready to go the next day.
And he wants those guys to have that experience doing that.
But I also think that the memory of last year
(02:14):
and the way last year started right, probably they played
a little something in this decision too.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And he was careful to not just straight out say that,
but he also admitted, you know, you have to reevaluate
what worked last year what didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I mean, you come out that first game against the
Saints and we don't have to rehash it. It was
not pretty and kind of do the same thing in
Week two against the Chargers. Who's to say, Who's to
say if playing all the preseason games last year would
have made a difference, but we saw what happened. Okay,
let's try a different tactic this year. And he made
(02:47):
that to your point about you know, knowing how to
get yourself ready and get yourself together and get hyped up.
Made the point too that, especially on defense, it's a
lot of new guys, some rookies, a lot of free agents,
but you just want them to go through that process together.
You know, of who's gonna always lose their socks, who's
gonna find them? You want that figured out during the preseason,
(03:07):
not the regular season.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You went socks there.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
My kids probably hate John wood In, the legendary UC coach,
because I would steal his line and tell them how
to put on their socks.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
The right way.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Because John Wooden would always take his players like Bill
Walton back in the seventies and he would spend part
of their first practice teaching them how to pull their
socks on tightly incorrectly so they wouldn't get a blister
because of basketball player with the blister's no good to
the team. So he wanted to make sure everybody was
doing those little things.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And that's what sucks.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And that's what Dave's talking about, with the hydration, with
the rest, with you know, just getting your mind right
to play some football. And so he's going to give
him an opportunity to do some of that stuff. I honestly,
I have always been a little ambivalent about preseason snaps
because there is no one true way to preseason if
we look across the league. I mean, Jalen Hurts didn't
(03:59):
play a single snap in the preseason last year.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That worked okay for him, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
But on the other hand, Pat Mahomes is a regular
in the preseason and he'll go out there and play
you know, big twenty snap segments going out there well
into the second quarter with his team, and they've done
pretty well with that too.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So it's a.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Little bit all over the place. Certain teams do it,
certain teams don't. It's based on the philosophy of the coach.
But you can find examples in either direction of people
who don't play their guys and it works, people who
don't play their guys and it don't.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So they tried one way last year, try this way
this year, see which one works better.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, that's right, And this is more kind of the
norm I mean, and it gets back to what used
to be the old preseason method, which was a little
bit in game one, a little bit more in game two.
Game three was like that dress rehearsal. Game four, nobody
played right. So now we're just gonna build into it
a little bit and give those guys a shot.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They've said that, they've said that when he got to.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Week three of the preseason, he'd kind of look back,
see what the practice is like, see how they were,
and then make a decision on Week three at that time.
But for the for the short term, what that means
is when you folks, and I know you're all coming
next weekend to see the Carolina Panthers open the preseason
against Cleveland Browns. You'll see some actual football with actual
(05:21):
football players right out there, right out of the choot,
by the way, and other news that was broken today.
We need a breaking news sounder, mad, do we have one?
I don't even know what that was. That sounded more
like ty web pudding breaking news, you know what?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I'm trying to do? That done? What's like? Are the.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Something like that? Sure, we'll get a trumpet.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I think maybe we can get Austin Corbett to play
it for us, or Austin could be our breaking news visual.
But anyway, jersey schedule out this morning. I know you're
excited about that. And if you refer to your jersey
schedule on Panthers dot com, you'll know that next Friday night,
when we play the Cleveland Browns right here in this building,
(06:04):
they'll be wearing blue.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's not on the big graphic. But that's good.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't see Browns on here.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's okay, that's right. You got to read the story.
That's the lesson. Don't just look at the headline headlines.
Click on the link. Read the story. There's helpful information.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
On the lot of I mean not a lot, but
relative to other years, a good bit of black and blue.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yep, a little more than last year. Teams can wear
their alternates four times.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That's right. That means alternate uniforms and an alternate helmet
in an additional time. I believe it as well.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And you can wear your alternate helmet with multiple different
colors of things. So yeah, it's you know, that's there
for you on Panthers dot com if that's a thing
that interest you.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Have you seen the leather alternate helmet for this year.
I don't know if I like it or not.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Is it only going to be worn by J J. Jansen?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
No, it should be. It's with the Packers throwback like
they're for the throwback game. They're wearing like their original
nineteen twenty stole or colors and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
So they're making an actual helmet look.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Like helmet is painted to look leather. I think it
could look cool on TV.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Maybe if it snows.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Maybe you never know. Yeah, I wonder what we I
wonder if they wear those when the Panthers play.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
We shall see. But anyway, back to football. We've discussed
helmets are football, Yeah, sort of.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Fashion's not really my deal when it comes to when
it comes to uniform discussions and stuff like that. I'm
an old I get it. I'm not the target audience.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
That's for the young people. They like all the different things.
I'm a traditionalist. I like the black jersey, the silver breeches,
That's what I see. Sam Mills in Luke Keighley describes
that as his favorite combination as well. So anyway, back
to football, Speaking of Luke Keigley and Sam Mills, this
was a rather dominant day for the defense and it,
(08:00):
says Dan Canallis described it, there were interceptions, uh plural,
a lot of them. JC got them, Merley Shaw Smith,
Wade got him late.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Show Smith Way closed out practice. There an interception.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
There was a bunch of stuff happening today and most
of it was good for that defense.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
There was even a dropped interception Swilling or new defensive back.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
But it was Yeah, it was all up and down
the roster. Jacoby Wynman, one of the backup into linebackers,
gets up in the air and tips the ball. I mean,
you had guys making place where it's like, okay, I
mean there were they were going down to three levels
deep in this practice.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
The Jacoby Winman interception, I just I want to walk
people through it here for a second, because I don't
know if there's video of it. It was it was
almost funny. So I can't remember if it was Bryce
or Andy. I can't remember who threw it. I'm sorry,
but was targeting Jimmy Horn, I believe, and Reid number
thirty five gets his hand in there and and pops
(08:59):
it and it pops up into the air and Jacobe
Whenman grabs it for the interception, he starts running it back. Now,
running it back is a loose term in training camp
in practice because there's no like set necessarily, there's a
section where everybody stands, and that's pretty much the end
of the field, even if it's only twenty yards. But
he runs it into that crowd and he starts to
(09:22):
kind of bobble it. Damian Lewis comes out of nowhere
and just like flattens him. There was no way they
were going to let him quote unquote score on that play,
that's right, But yeah, the Damien Lewis part was definitely
the funniest part.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, all, Damian Lewis tackle is not necessarily anything they
want to see on a routine basis, but you know, somebody,
somebody will still get tackled. At the end of the
Shaw interception, late Rob Hunt was kind of into the
vicinity and sort of made a move toward him, and
I said, I don't know that they want to see
Rob Hunt hitting Shaw Smith way.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
The Shaw interception the one that ended practice. It was
it was a pass to TMAC and Shaw just jumped it.
He played it perfectly. He played off just enough that
Bryce didn't see him, and then he jumped right in
the lane and grabbed it and like he threw it
right to him, ran it back yet again, another play,
yet again proving how good of a camp Shaw Smith
(10:15):
Wade has had.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
He He is a guy who came in he was
basically exclusively an outside corner in college, comes here and
mostly because he was small.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
They said, hey, you're gonna be a nickel f They said.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You're a nickel now, let's learn how to do this.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And Troy Hill, the old salty Vet, was here year
before last and first half of last year to kind
of mentor him through that process. And Shaw was kind
of learning on the fly, like a lot of guys
last year, being cast into new roles, and he's kind
of flourished in it is sort of making it in
his own. He's a confident kid anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yes he is.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He is not your typical rookie who's like yes or no, sir,
may I please have another? I mean he is. He's
got some assertiveness about himself, and so seeing him take
that job and kind of make it hit his own
and take ownership of it. I mean, you talked the
other day. He's a guy who will call people up.
He's a guy who will get older guys and talk
(11:08):
to them about what needed to happen in there, and
that communications often the last thing a young player learns
to be able to play.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Another guy who had a real confident moment today JT Sanders.
He caught like three different touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Today every time, and fairness, all of JT.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Sanders moments are true.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There was one moment where he does a little shoulder
move to shake his defender, gets the ball I believe
it was from Bryce and turns in to score the
touchdown and was standing there with Joe Person of the
Athletic and we just both busted out laughing because you
could tell, even through the helmet, you could tell the
(11:47):
exact moment. JT noticed the camera on the other side
of the end zone and he did the little spin
the ball trick that was the talk of the town
on Wednesday. He spuns the ball, he crossed, this is
his arm. He does a mean mug for the camera
and poses and then just turns back and walks away,
just and walks down the defensive sideline to get back
to the huddle.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's right, he knew.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, it was a great little moment.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And you know what, it's evidence of all the fantastic
shooters and videographers we've got here at Panthers dot Com
and the Carolina Panthers YouTube channel that brings you all
this stuff. We love the visuals. We got so much
stuff today. I don't know that we can even.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Use it all.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I know, there really was a lot today.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But we are sure gonna try.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
A couple other news and notes from today's practice, A
little bit of injury update stuff. Mike Jack was back
on the field. He was out for a couple of
days with a little toe deal. Not a little toe deal,
but a little a mild and he's back on the
field day, back in uniform, doing his Mike Jack thing.
Thomas Encombe sideline. Thomas Incombe was the guy taking advantage.
(12:53):
I was looked down at my notes. He was a
guy taking advantage of the fact they got thinned out
at outside linebacker a little bit. Nick Gorton sidelined with
a hamstring and DJ Johnson kind of felt something during
practice in a hip. Dave Canal said he had a
hip thing and they're getting that checked out for the
scientific term, probably as we speak. So hope for the
best for DJ, who was having a really good camp.
(13:15):
But with those two out, Incomb was the guy stepping up,
getting a lot of reps and making a good many plays.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, he really kind of flashed today. Everybody on defense
flash today, but you know, Incomb took advantage of those
snaps he had, which is exactly what you're supposed to
do during training camp. Hunter Renfro was another one. Yeah,
he was out there all day, he was involved in
huddles and whatnot, but still just kind of sidelined again
today as he gets better.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yep, And Dave said, you know, he asked Hunter earlier
this week, you know, if it was a game this week,
would you play? And Hunter was like, well, yeah, I'm playing,
But I think that's going to be the answer. If
he's out there on one leg, he'd be like Black
Knight in Monty Python's he's playing.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
After find away coach, after what he's.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Been through the last couple of years. He playing if
he's got an opportunity to play. So anyway, a lot
of stuff going on today. Talk to tim Ac a
little bit after press.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, he was a lot of you know, he just
comes in with some bangor one liners here and there.
He had like four or five today that were just like, oh,
I'm you know Mark that I'm gonna use that. Yeah,
he had one where it was talking about going up
against the DBS. Here. He's like, you know, sometimes even
the best get got talking about himself. You know, he
(14:26):
was talking about the physicality of the NFL especially, and
you know, this is a guy if you go back
and watch his college tape from Arizona, he didn't get
pressed a whole lot, and some of that was just
packed twelve defense. Some of that is whatever was called
for in their game plan. But he didn't get pressed
a ton and that was one of the that was
(14:47):
one of the few things that was kind of a
not a negative, but something to watch for in his
game during the whole draft process and the scouting report
on t Mac was what is he gonna do when
he it's pressed? And that's they have pressed him a
lot in camp. And that's not to say that's always
(15:07):
going to be the case in a game, but if
it is, they want him to be prepared. And so
JC and Mike Jack have taken that to heart and
we're like, Okay, you want to get your boy prepared.
We're going to make sure he's ready.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And he talked about today you know that that requires
He's like, I know I'm a big bodied receiver, but
I've also always kind of been smooth. I need to
be more physical essentially, and learning to be more physical.
And he also made the comment he said, you know,
we've got the refs out here. I know I'm still
a young guy. I'm not going to get those calls yet,
so I got to figure out how to work that
(15:39):
to my system. He also talked about the one handed
catches that really kind of popped off the other day,
which I mean when you're six four and you've got
a wingspan like that, and you've got hands that size
that can pull in a ball like that. That's obviously
going to be the flashy stuff that people are gravitating towards.
And he's like, I know y'all might not believe me,
but I promise I only do that if I have to,
(15:59):
And that's not the first choice. That's not how you
want to catch a ball.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I mean when you look at the pictures and
God bless hawx Herko and Andrews stuff. Yeah, who were
ripping out so many good images from this training camp.
It feels like there's something of t mac just pulling
a thing out of the sky with one hand every day.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
There was one he from the other day. He had
the jumpman gloves all because he is a jumpman Michael
Jordan athlete, and the pose he was doing to catch
it looked like jumpman, that's right, and it was epic.
But he you know, like you said today, those are
not necessarily how you want to catch it. But it's
this trick he's going to have in his bag the
more than anything, what he wants to know is that
(16:39):
his catch radius is there to serve price and I
think that's what we're seeing a little bit more and more,
and you're seeing him bounce back. You know, he said,
I'd be the first to tell you I've had some
bad days. I've also had some good days. You know,
how do you bounce back from it? And that's what
Canalis really kind of gave him credit for on Wednesday
as well, his ability to do that.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, no doubt, No doubt.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
A couple other odds and ends before we get out
of here for the weekend. It's Hall of Fame weekend.
Is it's the happiest place on earth. I'm even wearing
the quarter zip from Can't and Ohio.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Jared ever disappears, he's probably going to be in Canton, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's the happiest place on earth, Can't Ohio because once
you get there, everybody's in a good mood. You're celebrating
the cool stuff about football that we all love and
not worrying about all the bad stuff that everybody hates.
I am an unabashed homer when it comes to the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I love going there.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I love seeing the people there, I love celebrating all
the good stuff about football, and that we all enjoy.
So it is Hall of Fame weekend and we've got
a sort of tie to the Carolina Panthers at the
Hall this weekend. Panthers legend Jared Allen, and we were
fortunate enough we got to go up in May and
sit down with Jared a little bit, talk to him,
interview him about his twelve games he played here after
(17:56):
being traded in mid season early in the year, and
we've got a story up on Panthers dot com right now.
We put it up last night about the trade itself
and kind of what went into the trade. Talked to
Dave Gettlman, the then GM, Brandon Bean who was the
assistant GM at the time, now the GM of the
Buffalo Bills, Ron Rivera, Sean McDermott, all the dudes who
(18:17):
were involved in it, and Jared himself some interesting stuff.
We got some more Jared on the way coming up
for you tomorrow heading into Enshrinman. I'm hoping he mentions
the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
In his speech. I mean, because the.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Way he has talked about it, he has always referred
to his time here is when football became fun again.
He went through kind of a bad scene at the
end in Minnesota, goes to Chicago because he wanted to,
and then Chicago changed coaches and gms and it was
a bad scene again. And he basically went to him
and said, please let me go to Carolina. And he
ended up in Carolina and got to play in a
(18:50):
super Bowl and what amounts to his hometown. So check
that out about Jared Allen. I've got last year's credential
from the Hall of Fame hanging on our shelf of Fame.
Back here, that shelf of Fame, the Shelf of Fame,
and that was from when Julius Pepper's went into the
Hall last year. Of course, two years ago Sam Mills
went in. We believe we'll be back there soon. There's
(19:11):
a there's a fellow named Luke Keighley and a little
guy named Steve Smith, who y'all might have heard of,
who are eligible and we're finalists last year. We'll see
if we make our way back to the happiest place
on Earth. Yeah, but I'm skipping the happiest place on
Earth this year. You know why because FanFest is Manfest
is tomorrow night. Y'all come join us. Bank of America Stadium.
(19:32):
Five dollar tickets All proceeds benefit Panthers charities.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
There's gonna be live football.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
It's a good deal.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
There's going to be live looking football, some of that
thud plus football that makes Austin Corbett make the Austin
Corbett face.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Matt's looking at me like, do I have to put
it up there again?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's right, Austin Corbett will be making the face there
it is.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
You won't look like that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
If you come to FanFest, you'll have a big old
smile on your face. So come join us Bank of
America Stadium tomorrow night. FanFest six thirty Eight's open at
five five dollars. Tickets Proceeds benefit Panthers charities. Come show,
fireworks and lasers, lasers, sharks with lasers on their heads.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Everything is at fan Fast. We'll see y'all tomorrow night.
We'll see y'all next week on the Happy Half Hour.
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