August 19, 2025 • 22 mins
Today on the Happy Half Hour, Darin and Kassidy celebrate the end of training camp, recap Tuesday's fiery practice, discuss the Panthers newest QB, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Happy Half Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hello friends, and welcome to a very special edition of
The Happy Half Hour Training Camp edition.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And you know why it's a special.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Edition because it's the last one of training camp.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's right, it's the end of training camp.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Imagine, this is a bottle of champagne and I'm gonna
shake it up and just start praying it all over
the you know studio. Well, apparently, according to rule, we
can't have champagne in the studio while we're talking. So anyway, no,
this is this fine bottle of Desani, a proud partner
of the Carolina Panthers, will or something, this bottle of
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design to do Yeah, exactly, Dyke Coke, thank you please. Anyway, Yes,
we have reached the end of training camp.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Today was the last padded practice before they go into
the final preseason game and then there'll be some days
where they're kind of out there doing some things, but
today was kind of the last one that looks like
training camp where they're wearing pads, hitting each other, really competing,
getting after it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And guess what happened. It felt like that's right, people.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Got scrappy and it was that kind of day. One
of the headlines coming out of this thing is going
to be. There was a long stretch of moved the
ball at the end of practice the Dave Canal has
kind of let go. Was supposed to be an eight
place segment. He let it go like fifteen to eighteen
plays because they were getting after it pretty good. And
when guys start getting after it pretty good in training camp,
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here's what happened. Somebody gets hit, people get offended, football
players bow up on each other, and next thing you know,
somebody swings.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It is very much a equals B vehicle seed kind
of this time of year, it feels like.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
The only thing that was really missing was one hundred
degree temperatures.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I know it was actually way too cool out there
for hot heads. But you know, like you said, it
was a competitive period. It was a long practice. They
knew this was going to be their last big one
before because starters aren't playing preseason and then you know,
you got a little bit of time before you start
rolling into that Jacksonville week. So it was physical and
you know, Canal's even said that's kind of why he
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let the move the ball period continue. He liked the
physicality he was seeing. He knows again that starters aren't
playing Thursday. This is kind of the last chance for
some of those guys to really get in there and
fill some physicality with each other. And they did, for sure.
But it was a good period too. You know, everybody
kind of walked away laughing at the end of it
as well.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, they're all better now. I saw him in the
lunch room.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They were all sitting together, being friends, having a good time,
all that kind of stuff. But no, I mean you
can imagine some of the people. I mean, jac Horn's
kind of in the middle of it. Because jac Horn's
in the middle of a lot of this kind of stuff.
What Dave Canalis did not like, and what he was
going to caution JC about later was don't throw punches
at people. Because you throw punch at somebody in a game,
guess what, you don't play no more.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Jacy's already got stitches in one hand. You don't need
to hurt the other one either. Yeah, that was probably
the most physical it got at that point. But yeah,
like you said, it's a good teaching moment. And even
j C. Horn having been in the league for a
couple of years now, a few years now, we can
all learn we can all learn something every day, and
that was a good reminding, teachable moment for Canalis with
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the guys. And you know, sometimes you see that happen
with teams, and then they shut things down that period,
even though it had already gone longer than the eight
plays it was supposed to kept going. They immediately got
back to the ball, ran another play, and ran I
think three or four more before practice was over. And
so you know they were still going to finish their
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work and they did exactly that because you're only you
only get so many of those a year.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I mean, and listen, there is that fine line,
and we again, it's the end of training camp.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I've lost all concept of time.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Say it's a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It feels like early in training camp.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
We had another day where people bowed up on each other,
started playing buck bucks, circling around, jumping on piles and canals.
Kind of grinned when he talked about that one, and
he kind of liked it, even though he had to
say out loud he did like it. There was one
of those he talked today about that fine line, and
that's what he's trying to find because here's what you
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know about this Carolina Panthers team. That is evident through
the end of this training camp and even beyond. The
guys who burn the hottest are among some of those
leaders of the team. Cats like Chuba Hubbard, cats like j. C. Horn,
Cats like Derek Brown are always going to be the
ones kind of in the middle of a lot of that,
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just because they burn so hot and they expect so
much out of people. I mean, Derek is one of
those guys who he may not run his mouth the
way JC does.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't know that anybody's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Doing that, but those guys keep a high standard and
they demand a high standard of others.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So Canal has said it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
After practice day he said, I want guys pushing right
up to that edge. I want them right there in
that place, right before they throw a punch at somebody, right.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And then come off the field come back to us.
And that what he always says.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, there you go, look at you, come back to us.
You have adopted the Dave Canalis phrase books.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Some recall there, come back to the sideline, celebrate with us,
commiserate with us, but come back to us. And you
know that's practice is for those kind of things. It's
for getting your techniques right, your fundamentals right, and knowing
where that line is. And yeah, it probably got crossed
a little bit today, but better in practice than a game.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, But in a day of messages sent and messages received.
There was another thing that kind of stood out to
me about this was about halfway through practice whistle blows.
There's a little bit of a break and all of
a sudden you see offense lining up on one side
of the field together and taking off and running a
gas er to the other side and back.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I mean, that was kind of wild, and it's one
of those things. It wasn't planned, it wasn't in the script,
and nobody was really expecting it, and they've kind of
admitted I didn't really know what.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Was going on, said I was confused. I just he's like,
I think we're going to seven on seven and all
of a sudden, I hear sideline sideline and he's like,
we're not doing a team yet, what are they going
to sideline for it? But Chuba Hubbard and Bryce Young
didn't like the effort they were getting and they made
sure that message got across.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Right, I mean, and Dave's talked about pre snap penalties
and how that's kind of the mistake you can't make.
That's that self inflicted wound that this Carolina Panthers team,
bless you, honestly can't really afford at this point in
their development. I mean, this team's going to be involved
in close games. If they're gonna win a bunch of games,
they're going to need all those little edges because they're
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still building this thing, and so they can't give away yards,
they can't give away possessions, those kind of things. And
Dave's been harping on that a lot during camp. So
it was interesting. And again I did a little bit
of a journalism and started talking to some people in
the back. You know, Cuba, Hubbard, as is his custom,
was the guy who called everybody up.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah in Cuba.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I have said this before on this podcast, probably during
this training camp, but when you pay a Chewba Hubbard,
you're not just buying yards and touchdowns, buying the guy
who calls people up and makes them new gassers during
training camp. You're buying the guy who spends all that
extra time on the jugs machine, so that when Xavier
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Leaguett drops a ball in Philadelphia, Cuba is like all right,
come on with me. That's the kind of leader you're
getting in that guy. And he has quickly become kind
of the conscience of this place, much in the same
way Derek has on his side of the ball by
being the one who works, by being the guy who
grinds the hardest, by being the guy who shows up early,
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stays late. We joke during the schedule release back in
the spring about Cuba living here at the stadium, But
there's a kernel of truth in every joke. Gang, just
remember that the next time somebody makes you mad. But
Cuba is the guy on that side of the ball
who will call people up. And he did it today
and it was kind of wild to see a whole
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line of people running across the field.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And he told him, if you don't clean that up,
if you don't answer for it, we're gonna do it again.
And they didn't have to do it again. They only
had to do it once. But you know, Jalen Coker
even joked afterwards, He's like, I don't know who whose
idea it was. I was just following direction.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, God bless Jalen Coker. He ain't gonna startrouble with anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
He just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He was just like, yes or okay, it's urging the
sideline got a mister Hubbard, Absolutely, I'm on my way.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I love that kid. Is Chuba does that a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And to one of those other big points Canalis has
made throughout his camp, he wants this to be a
player driven thing. If you remember one hundred years ago
in July, when I wrote that story about the way
this was kind of becoming a player driven thing, Dave
didn't want to have to tell guys to do stuff now.
He also pointed out he doesn't necessarily love guys doing
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gassers because he tries to keep the intensity in the
workload of practice at a certain level anyway, and so
extra running isn't really part.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Of the program.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean, they've got entire teams of scientists downstairs who
have every breath, who have calculated how much work dudes
need to do. So if dudes are out there doing
supplemental work on their own, you like the effort, but
you do also don't want them over taxing themselves and
putting themselves in a bad situation.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And I think if it had been if there had
been more than one right, I wouldn't be surprised if
he would have stepped in and said, okay, you got
your point across, right, But you know it was just one.
It was more than anything, a message and I think,
like you said, message given, message received. They walked away
realizing that like coaches are gonna hold them accountable, but
so are the players. To your point is player driven.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And this is a little detour here, and you haven't
planned for this, so you're giving me that podka at
cast face where it's like, qu is Darren about to
do nervous? Do women do this too?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Because there is nothing a dude loves. There is nothing
a dude loves more than making a point, taking a
privileged Dand we're gonna settle this right here.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
We're gonna run these sprints. Do women do that or
do they?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Probably they very much do that, but in a different way.
There's nothing I love more than being right. I don't
even mind being wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
This is why we're friends.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Everybody's wrong at some point. You know, I can be wrong,
but I love being right. And a lot of women
are like that. You know, it's it's we probably would
get it out with words a little more than gassers.
But yeah, definitely get it out, or at least me
and my friends do. It's unhealthy to sweep stuff under
the rug. It makes you trip.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Is that Alabama wisdom? Do you have that needle pointed
onto a pillow AT's house?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I should my me mos, probably where I got it from.
That does sound like something I talked You missed it earlier.
I talked about my grandma duty.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's a different podcast for a different day.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, we will get to that later, but no, I mean,
it was that kind of day, and you could feel
all these things kind of come into a head because
they know this is kind of the end of a thing.
There's going to be a game on Thursday night. That
game is going to be contested largely by the second
and third and fourth teams, guys competing for roster spots
at the end of this roster, guys competing and come
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back to be on a practice squad. To be honest
with you, because we talk about this ninety man roster,
ninety one with an international exemption, they're going to reduce
that down to seventy or so in a week, and
so most of these guys are.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Sixteen huh fifty three plus sixteen.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Plus one for the international exemption from OSMA, wants doing
the math.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Funny how math works.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But we're going I mean, basically, twenty of these guys
are going to go away and we may not see
them for a while, but usually when somebody gets hurt
in the middle of the year, those are the guys.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Who come back.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But the one thing we know for sure is that
this team is kind of developing a little.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Bit of that personality that they want to see.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You've seen it, you I know, people are you know,
feeling some kind of way about the games they get
to see on TV. But when you see the joint
practice with the Texans, when you see these guys go
through this camp, you can tell that those messages are
coming through.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, it's definitely a decided shift from maybe what it
was a year or so ago at this time, even
just as something as simple as again, we're gonna people
are gonna be like, really, you're bringing this up again,
But as simple as like Hubbard and Bryce being the
one to kind of get them on the sideline and
say we're going to do this. I had a point
to add to that too, and now I can't remember
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what it was.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
What would Anne Twudy say Grandma Tuty, grandmall Tudy. That
really was that really was a piece of wisdom that
came on a needle point pillow.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It absolutely was s.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Stuff under the rug and'll make you true.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It'll make you true.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yes, just I remember now talking about you know, Thursday,
I knew i'd get there eventually. Thursday being guys that
are going to be maybe second, third, fourth string guys.
Can Alice talk today too about you know again, what
is the identity of this team going to be wanting
to see that show up on Thursday. That's gonna be
what helps guys stand out, he said, He's the message
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to them this week was basically, show us you want
to be on this team, Show us you want to
make this team. And a lot of that is gonna
look like putting an effort on every play, including special teams.
Because to your point, they're gonna get this roster down
to seventy guys next week. But then there's gonna be
times where they have to do call ups. And he said,
you know, when we do call ups, you're probably not
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getting called up to start. You're getting called up to
be depth behind a guy. And that means you're gonna
have to get out there on special teams. Are you
worthy of that spot and prove that to us now?
And so that's what today was. That's what Thursday is
going to be about. A good opportunity for a lot
of guys.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So when you're watching that game Thursday night on the
Panthers Television Network with our friends Anie Shroth, Jake Deloman,
Steve Smith, make sure to check out the gunners in
the third quarter because that's where the action is.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
That's a future backup corner right there.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, of that game, Dave did tell us Day a
couple of odds and ends news and notes. Andy Dalton
definitely is not going to play on Thursday night, kind
of expected after he he kind of eased into it
a little bit yesterday after leaving the game last Saturday
in Houston.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Andy's all right.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
If it would have been a regular season game, Andy
would have probably stayed in it without missing a series
last week.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
He's okay, and he practiced today.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Andy practiced today fully and without any apparent limitations.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Andy was just as I told him the other day.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Andy Dalton's just over there doing Andy Dalton things, and
those are usually good things, but not going to play
on Thursday night. That means a lot of Jack Plumber
and a lot of new Bryce, a lot of new
Bryce Bryce Perkins who it was actually another kind of
neat thing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And I would encourage you to get on.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
The Panthers YouTube channel or Panthers dot com and check
out the tail end of that Canalis press conference because
he had a section where he talked about talking to
Bryce Perkins today during warmups and Perkins told him he
was like, listen, man, you come it through the UFL.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You gotta want to play football. You gotta love this game.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And Dave's like, I got chills just talking to him
about it, and that was kind of that's kind of
that vibe. I mean, when you get guys who want
to do it, who want to do the fourth quarter
of the third preseason game when nobody's really paying attention,
when you're when you find those guys, that's where you're
onto something because you want all of your guys to
pave that way.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Know, Bryce Perkins spend a year in the in the
UFL kind of refining his game. He talked about it yesterday.
You can read it on Panthers dot Com about knowing
that there were parts of his game he needed to
get better at, and so that's really what he spent
his last two years in the UFL doing as well,
Like what does he what does his vision look like downfield?
What does he do when he needs to move the pocket?
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Things like that, and he's like, you know, I'm ready
to show people what I've learned, and so cool opportunity
for him to. Jalen Cocher will play Thursday.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's right, Jalen Cocher is going to play. A Couple
of injury updates from Canals today. Tommy Trimble's getting close.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Gang.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Tommy's over there doing his thing. He was wrestling with
one of the performance staff members yesterday on the sidelines
over a medicine ball, and I thought he was going
to injure poor Ryan Bell Rose. But Bell's okay, Tommy's okay.
Tommy's getting closer to getting activated. They hope, Canalis said
looks good for getting him back for regular season. Week
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one was a little less certain about Damian Lewis. He
was asked about Lu and he said, Dlu, who's been
out since the joint practice with the Browns, with a
little bit of a shoulder deal. He said, Dlu could
probably play if we had to right now, but we
don't have to right now, so they're going to continue
to strengthen him and let him get back into this thing.
Cade May has been out there run around with the
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ones at left guard in Delu's absence, but they've got
some other dudes coming back. Chandlers of Allah has been
back on the practice field this week. Chan supposed to
play this week. And by the way, Chandler's of Ala
is a friend of this Yere podcast. Here's why I
love about Chandler's voleet.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
There is nothing you can ask that man to do
that he won't say yes too. It's like, Hey, Chan,
you want to put on later hose and go to Germany?
Announced Drapper.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, sure, I'll do that. Hey Chan, you want to
go out in the yard with some goats and do yoga?
Oh that sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
We were coming in from practice today and I was
walking in alongside as the cart was pulling around some
of the veteran guys and Dan Morgan and Chandler's standing
there holding the door for people to walk into the locker. Room,
and Dan and I are looking at him.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Like, get in there, what are you doing? Go inside.
You've been practicing, so you can go cool off. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
He Chandler's great kid. Uh works hard and he's back
in the field. He should be out there on the
field Thursday night too, And that just adds another element
to it. I mean, they've got that depth on the
offensive line that we've talked about so much this offseason,
So it'll be good to see some of those guys
back out on the field.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And then a couple other just notes, he said. Because
Brad Itzick has been calling the place the first two
preseason games for the offense, Jonathan Cooley and Pete Hansen
called it game one in Game two, respectfully, Canalis and
Evere will call the plays for offense and defense on
Thursday night, just to get them back and get them
a game under their belt before the regular season starts. Yep, Darren,
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we would be remiss if we did not talk about
the funniest moment from practice today. It had no business
being as funny as it was. Like she be Hooverard
first of all, Cubhoverard on one play, gets a handoff,
breaks down the right sideline. He's got nothing but open grass.
Mike Jackson tried his dangdis to catch up to him,
almost got him, but you because he cut across from
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the other side of the field. Mike was on the
other side of the field, took an angle across to
try to get him. Jimmy Horn and Raheem black Sheeer
realized what was happening, ran down the sideline, hyping tube
up the whole way into the end zone. That's a fun, little,
oh cool little moment. Anyways, that's right. The next play,
Juba gets to hand off again, tries to cut to
the other side, and he goes to what should have
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been open grass in a lane, and did Derek Brown,
all six five, three hundred and twenty founds of Derek
Brown is just standing there like he's literally just standing there,
like daring Cuba to come that way. And Cuba stops,
and you like you see even through the helmet and
the visor in twenty yards down the field, you see
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the exact moment Cuba makes a business.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Decision rights like, I do not need this in my life.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Tuesday morning, he cuts left, finds another lane, gets probably
a first sound in the game. He picked up a
good bit of yardage there. But the moment of clarity
for Cuba that oh, that's Derek Brown right there. I
need to go anywhere else. It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It was a little bit like if if he was
a cartoon character, you would have heard that in a
break squealing as he skids down the road and turns around,
runs back onto the.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Clerk like the old it's from an old TV show
and now it's made its way to TikTok for the
young kids that don't know where it came from. Where
it's like the record stops is and it's like you're
probably wondering how I got here? Like that was Cuba
in that moment.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
See I remember record scratches because I remember records.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
An actual record scratch.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So anyway, so that that takes care of practice. Today again,
Pittsburgh Steelers here in this building, Bank of America Stadium
on Thursday night, come join us. It's gonna be a
good time. I hear the weather's gonna be lovely. It
should be a great night for.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Aaron's coming to visit us. I'm just kidding. I think
Thursday's fine.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, Thursday's fine. Quit scaring people. Leave the weather scaring.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I love a good small hurricane. Get like a category one,
a category two. I love a good small hurricane.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
A small hurricane like Willis mcgaye.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Sure, is that a joke?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I need to go to college football joke?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh hurricane?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
There you go at anyway at any rate. Yes, So
there is that we will be back. This podcast will return.
We we can't possibly keep up an everyday schedule through
the regular seas.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I kill us. Matt would kill us, our bosses would
kill us.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Those people who are trying to clean the champagne stains
out of the ceiling would kill us so many. So
to avoid death and dismemberment, we're going to cut back
a little bit. We're gonna come to you a couple
times a week with the Happy half Hour during the season.
I know you're used to once a week during the season.
We've had so much fun for the last month. We're
just gonna keep it going a little more often. So
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we love doing it. We love doing it for you
because we do.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It for the people.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And until then, until you see us in this spot
again at a time to be determined, I don't know,
maybe Friday, maybe next Monday.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
In advance of cuts. I don't know. We'll figure it
out because we're kind of winging it.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Here's our plans for this podcast if you want to
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The Happy Half Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hello friends, and welcome to a very special edition of
The Happy Half Hour Training Camp edition.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And you know why it's a special.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Edition because it's the last one of training camp.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's right, it's the end of training camp.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Imagine, this is a bottle of champagne and I'm gonna
shake it up and just start praying it all over
the you know studio. Well, apparently, according to rule, we
can't have champagne in the studio while we're talking. So anyway, no,
this is this fine bottle of Desani, a proud partner
of the Carolina Panthers, will or something, this bottle of
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design to do Yeah, exactly, Dyke Coke, thank you please. Anyway, Yes,
we have reached the end of training camp.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Today was the last padded practice before they go into
the final preseason game and then there'll be some days
where they're kind of out there doing some things, but
today was kind of the last one that looks like
training camp where they're wearing pads, hitting each other, really competing,
getting after it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And guess what happened. It felt like that's right, people.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Got scrappy and it was that kind of day. One
of the headlines coming out of this thing is going
to be. There was a long stretch of moved the
ball at the end of practice the Dave Canal has
kind of let go. Was supposed to be an eight
place segment. He let it go like fifteen to eighteen
plays because they were getting after it pretty good. And
when guys start getting after it pretty good in training camp,
(01:26):
here's what happened. Somebody gets hit, people get offended, football
players bow up on each other, and next thing you know,
somebody swings.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It is very much a equals B vehicle seed kind
of this time of year, it feels like.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
The only thing that was really missing was one hundred
degree temperatures.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I know it was actually way too cool out there
for hot heads. But you know, like you said, it
was a competitive period. It was a long practice. They
knew this was going to be their last big one
before because starters aren't playing preseason and then you know,
you got a little bit of time before you start
rolling into that Jacksonville week. So it was physical and
you know, Canal's even said that's kind of why he
(02:02):
let the move the ball period continue. He liked the
physicality he was seeing. He knows again that starters aren't
playing Thursday. This is kind of the last chance for
some of those guys to really get in there and
fill some physicality with each other. And they did, for sure.
But it was a good period too. You know, everybody
kind of walked away laughing at the end of it
as well.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, they're all better now. I saw him in the
lunch room.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They were all sitting together, being friends, having a good time,
all that kind of stuff. But no, I mean you
can imagine some of the people. I mean, jac Horn's
kind of in the middle of it. Because jac Horn's
in the middle of a lot of this kind of stuff.
What Dave Canalis did not like, and what he was
going to caution JC about later was don't throw punches
at people. Because you throw punch at somebody in a game,
guess what, you don't play no more.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Jacy's already got stitches in one hand. You don't need
to hurt the other one either. Yeah, that was probably
the most physical it got at that point. But yeah,
like you said, it's a good teaching moment. And even
j C. Horn having been in the league for a
couple of years now, a few years now, we can
all learn we can all learn something every day, and
that was a good reminding, teachable moment for Canalis with
(03:07):
the guys. And you know, sometimes you see that happen
with teams, and then they shut things down that period,
even though it had already gone longer than the eight
plays it was supposed to kept going. They immediately got
back to the ball, ran another play, and ran I
think three or four more before practice was over. And
so you know they were still going to finish their
(03:28):
work and they did exactly that because you're only you
only get so many of those a year.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I mean, and listen, there is that fine line,
and we again, it's the end of training camp.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I've lost all concept of time.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Say it's a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It feels like early in training camp.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
We had another day where people bowed up on each other,
started playing buck bucks, circling around, jumping on piles and canals.
Kind of grinned when he talked about that one, and
he kind of liked it, even though he had to
say out loud he did like it. There was one
of those he talked today about that fine line, and
that's what he's trying to find because here's what you
(04:07):
know about this Carolina Panthers team. That is evident through
the end of this training camp and even beyond. The
guys who burn the hottest are among some of those
leaders of the team. Cats like Chuba Hubbard, cats like j. C. Horn,
Cats like Derek Brown are always going to be the
ones kind of in the middle of a lot of that,
(04:28):
just because they burn so hot and they expect so
much out of people. I mean, Derek is one of
those guys who he may not run his mouth the
way JC does.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't know that anybody's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Doing that, but those guys keep a high standard and
they demand a high standard of others.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So Canal has said it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
After practice day he said, I want guys pushing right
up to that edge. I want them right there in
that place, right before they throw a punch at somebody, right.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And then come off the field come back to us.
And that what he always says.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, there you go, look at you, come back to us.
You have adopted the Dave Canalis phrase books.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Some recall there, come back to the sideline, celebrate with us,
commiserate with us, but come back to us. And you
know that's practice is for those kind of things. It's
for getting your techniques right, your fundamentals right, and knowing
where that line is. And yeah, it probably got crossed
a little bit today, but better in practice than a game.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, But in a day of messages sent and messages received.
There was another thing that kind of stood out to
me about this was about halfway through practice whistle blows.
There's a little bit of a break and all of
a sudden you see offense lining up on one side
of the field together and taking off and running a
gas er to the other side and back.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I mean, that was kind of wild, and it's one
of those things. It wasn't planned, it wasn't in the script,
and nobody was really expecting it, and they've kind of
admitted I didn't really know what.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Was going on, said I was confused. I just he's like,
I think we're going to seven on seven and all
of a sudden, I hear sideline sideline and he's like,
we're not doing a team yet, what are they going
to sideline for it? But Chuba Hubbard and Bryce Young
didn't like the effort they were getting and they made
sure that message got across.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Right, I mean, and Dave's talked about pre snap penalties
and how that's kind of the mistake you can't make.
That's that self inflicted wound that this Carolina Panthers team,
bless you, honestly can't really afford at this point in
their development. I mean, this team's going to be involved
in close games. If they're gonna win a bunch of games,
they're going to need all those little edges because they're
(06:27):
still building this thing, and so they can't give away yards,
they can't give away possessions, those kind of things. And
Dave's been harping on that a lot during camp. So
it was interesting. And again I did a little bit
of a journalism and started talking to some people in
the back. You know, Cuba, Hubbard, as is his custom,
was the guy who called everybody up.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah in Cuba.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I have said this before on this podcast, probably during
this training camp, but when you pay a Chewba Hubbard,
you're not just buying yards and touchdowns, buying the guy
who calls people up and makes them new gassers during
training camp. You're buying the guy who spends all that
extra time on the jugs machine, so that when Xavier
(07:09):
Leaguett drops a ball in Philadelphia, Cuba is like all right,
come on with me. That's the kind of leader you're
getting in that guy. And he has quickly become kind
of the conscience of this place, much in the same
way Derek has on his side of the ball by
being the one who works, by being the guy who
grinds the hardest, by being the guy who shows up early,
(07:31):
stays late. We joke during the schedule release back in
the spring about Cuba living here at the stadium, But
there's a kernel of truth in every joke. Gang, just
remember that the next time somebody makes you mad. But
Cuba is the guy on that side of the ball
who will call people up. And he did it today
and it was kind of wild to see a whole
(07:53):
line of people running across the field.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And he told him, if you don't clean that up,
if you don't answer for it, we're gonna do it again.
And they didn't have to do it again. They only
had to do it once. But you know, Jalen Coker
even joked afterwards, He's like, I don't know who whose
idea it was. I was just following direction.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, God bless Jalen Coker. He ain't gonna startrouble with anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
He just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He was just like, yes or okay, it's urging the
sideline got a mister Hubbard, Absolutely, I'm on my way.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I love that kid. Is Chuba does that a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And to one of those other big points Canalis has
made throughout his camp, he wants this to be a
player driven thing. If you remember one hundred years ago
in July, when I wrote that story about the way
this was kind of becoming a player driven thing, Dave
didn't want to have to tell guys to do stuff now.
He also pointed out he doesn't necessarily love guys doing
(08:47):
gassers because he tries to keep the intensity in the
workload of practice at a certain level anyway, and so
extra running isn't really part.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Of the program.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean, they've got entire teams of scientists downstairs who
have every breath, who have calculated how much work dudes
need to do. So if dudes are out there doing
supplemental work on their own, you like the effort, but
you do also don't want them over taxing themselves and
putting themselves in a bad situation.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And I think if it had been if there had
been more than one right, I wouldn't be surprised if
he would have stepped in and said, okay, you got
your point across, right, But you know it was just one.
It was more than anything, a message and I think,
like you said, message given, message received. They walked away
realizing that like coaches are gonna hold them accountable, but
so are the players. To your point is player driven.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And this is a little detour here, and you haven't
planned for this, so you're giving me that podka at
cast face where it's like, qu is Darren about to
do nervous? Do women do this too?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Because there is nothing a dude loves. There is nothing
a dude loves more than making a point, taking a
privileged Dand we're gonna settle this right here.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
We're gonna run these sprints. Do women do that or
do they?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Probably they very much do that, but in a different way.
There's nothing I love more than being right. I don't
even mind being wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
This is why we're friends.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Everybody's wrong at some point. You know, I can be wrong,
but I love being right. And a lot of women
are like that. You know, it's it's we probably would
get it out with words a little more than gassers.
But yeah, definitely get it out, or at least me
and my friends do. It's unhealthy to sweep stuff under
the rug. It makes you trip.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Is that Alabama wisdom? Do you have that needle pointed
onto a pillow AT's house?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I should my me mos, probably where I got it from.
That does sound like something I talked You missed it earlier.
I talked about my grandma duty.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's a different podcast for a different day.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, we will get to that later, but no, I mean,
it was that kind of day, and you could feel
all these things kind of come into a head because
they know this is kind of the end of a thing.
There's going to be a game on Thursday night. That
game is going to be contested largely by the second
and third and fourth teams, guys competing for roster spots
at the end of this roster, guys competing and come
(11:10):
back to be on a practice squad. To be honest
with you, because we talk about this ninety man roster,
ninety one with an international exemption, they're going to reduce
that down to seventy or so in a week, and
so most of these guys are.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Sixteen huh fifty three plus sixteen.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Plus one for the international exemption from OSMA, wants doing
the math.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Funny how math works.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But we're going I mean, basically, twenty of these guys
are going to go away and we may not see
them for a while, but usually when somebody gets hurt
in the middle of the year, those are the guys.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Who come back.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But the one thing we know for sure is that
this team is kind of developing a little.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Bit of that personality that they want to see.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You've seen it, you I know, people are you know,
feeling some kind of way about the games they get
to see on TV. But when you see the joint
practice with the Texans, when you see these guys go
through this camp, you can tell that those messages are
coming through.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, it's definitely a decided shift from maybe what it
was a year or so ago at this time, even
just as something as simple as again, we're gonna people
are gonna be like, really, you're bringing this up again,
But as simple as like Hubbard and Bryce being the
one to kind of get them on the sideline and
say we're going to do this. I had a point
to add to that too, and now I can't remember
(12:30):
what it was.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
What would Anne Twudy say Grandma Tuty, grandmall Tudy. That
really was that really was a piece of wisdom that
came on a needle point pillow.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It absolutely was s.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Stuff under the rug and'll make you true.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It'll make you true.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yes, just I remember now talking about you know, Thursday,
I knew i'd get there eventually. Thursday being guys that
are going to be maybe second, third, fourth string guys.
Can Alice talk today too about you know again, what
is the identity of this team going to be wanting
to see that show up on Thursday. That's gonna be
what helps guys stand out, he said, He's the message
(13:06):
to them this week was basically, show us you want
to be on this team, Show us you want to
make this team. And a lot of that is gonna
look like putting an effort on every play, including special teams.
Because to your point, they're gonna get this roster down
to seventy guys next week. But then there's gonna be
times where they have to do call ups. And he said,
you know, when we do call ups, you're probably not
(13:27):
getting called up to start. You're getting called up to
be depth behind a guy. And that means you're gonna
have to get out there on special teams. Are you
worthy of that spot and prove that to us now?
And so that's what today was. That's what Thursday is
going to be about. A good opportunity for a lot
of guys.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So when you're watching that game Thursday night on the
Panthers Television Network with our friends Anie Shroth, Jake Deloman,
Steve Smith, make sure to check out the gunners in
the third quarter because that's where the action is.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
That's a future backup corner right there.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, of that game, Dave did tell us Day a
couple of odds and ends news and notes. Andy Dalton
definitely is not going to play on Thursday night, kind
of expected after he he kind of eased into it
a little bit yesterday after leaving the game last Saturday
in Houston.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Andy's all right.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
If it would have been a regular season game, Andy
would have probably stayed in it without missing a series
last week.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
He's okay, and he practiced today.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Andy practiced today fully and without any apparent limitations.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Andy was just as I told him the other day.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Andy Dalton's just over there doing Andy Dalton things, and
those are usually good things, but not going to play
on Thursday night. That means a lot of Jack Plumber
and a lot of new Bryce, a lot of new
Bryce Bryce Perkins who it was actually another kind of
neat thing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And I would encourage you to get on.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
The Panthers YouTube channel or Panthers dot com and check
out the tail end of that Canalis press conference because
he had a section where he talked about talking to
Bryce Perkins today during warmups and Perkins told him he
was like, listen, man, you come it through the UFL.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You gotta want to play football. You gotta love this game.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And Dave's like, I got chills just talking to him
about it, and that was kind of that's kind of
that vibe. I mean, when you get guys who want
to do it, who want to do the fourth quarter
of the third preseason game when nobody's really paying attention,
when you're when you find those guys, that's where you're
onto something because you want all of your guys to
pave that way.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Know, Bryce Perkins spend a year in the in the
UFL kind of refining his game. He talked about it yesterday.
You can read it on Panthers dot Com about knowing
that there were parts of his game he needed to
get better at, and so that's really what he spent
his last two years in the UFL doing as well,
Like what does he what does his vision look like downfield?
What does he do when he needs to move the pocket?
(15:49):
Things like that, and he's like, you know, I'm ready
to show people what I've learned, and so cool opportunity
for him to. Jalen Cocher will play Thursday.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's right, Jalen Cocher is going to play. A Couple
of injury updates from Canals today. Tommy Trimble's getting close.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Gang.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Tommy's over there doing his thing. He was wrestling with
one of the performance staff members yesterday on the sidelines
over a medicine ball, and I thought he was going
to injure poor Ryan Bell Rose. But Bell's okay, Tommy's okay.
Tommy's getting closer to getting activated. They hope, Canalis said
looks good for getting him back for regular season. Week
(16:24):
one was a little less certain about Damian Lewis. He
was asked about Lu and he said, Dlu, who's been
out since the joint practice with the Browns, with a
little bit of a shoulder deal. He said, Dlu could
probably play if we had to right now, but we
don't have to right now, so they're going to continue
to strengthen him and let him get back into this thing.
Cade May has been out there run around with the
(16:46):
ones at left guard in Delu's absence, but they've got
some other dudes coming back. Chandlers of Allah has been
back on the practice field this week. Chan supposed to
play this week. And by the way, Chandler's of Ala
is a friend of this Yere podcast. Here's why I
love about Chandler's voleet.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
There is nothing you can ask that man to do
that he won't say yes too. It's like, Hey, Chan,
you want to put on later hose and go to Germany?
Announced Drapper.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, sure, I'll do that. Hey Chan, you want to
go out in the yard with some goats and do yoga?
Oh that sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
We were coming in from practice today and I was
walking in alongside as the cart was pulling around some
of the veteran guys and Dan Morgan and Chandler's standing
there holding the door for people to walk into the locker. Room,
and Dan and I are looking at him.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Like, get in there, what are you doing? Go inside.
You've been practicing, so you can go cool off. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
He Chandler's great kid. Uh works hard and he's back
in the field. He should be out there on the
field Thursday night too, And that just adds another element
to it. I mean, they've got that depth on the
offensive line that we've talked about so much this offseason,
So it'll be good to see some of those guys
back out on the field.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And then a couple other just notes, he said. Because
Brad Itzick has been calling the place the first two
preseason games for the offense, Jonathan Cooley and Pete Hansen
called it game one in Game two, respectfully, Canalis and
Evere will call the plays for offense and defense on
Thursday night, just to get them back and get them
a game under their belt before the regular season starts. Yep, Darren,
(18:14):
we would be remiss if we did not talk about
the funniest moment from practice today. It had no business
being as funny as it was. Like she be Hooverard
first of all, Cubhoverard on one play, gets a handoff,
breaks down the right sideline. He's got nothing but open grass.
Mike Jackson tried his dangdis to catch up to him,
almost got him, but you because he cut across from
(18:37):
the other side of the field. Mike was on the
other side of the field, took an angle across to
try to get him. Jimmy Horn and Raheem black Sheeer
realized what was happening, ran down the sideline, hyping tube
up the whole way into the end zone. That's a fun, little,
oh cool little moment. Anyways, that's right. The next play,
Juba gets to hand off again, tries to cut to
the other side, and he goes to what should have
(18:59):
been open grass in a lane, and did Derek Brown,
all six five, three hundred and twenty founds of Derek
Brown is just standing there like he's literally just standing there,
like daring Cuba to come that way. And Cuba stops,
and you like you see even through the helmet and
the visor in twenty yards down the field, you see
(19:19):
the exact moment Cuba makes a business.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Decision rights like, I do not need this in my life.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Tuesday morning, he cuts left, finds another lane, gets probably
a first sound in the game. He picked up a
good bit of yardage there. But the moment of clarity
for Cuba that oh, that's Derek Brown right there. I
need to go anywhere else. It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It was a little bit like if if he was
a cartoon character, you would have heard that in a
break squealing as he skids down the road and turns around,
runs back onto the.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Clerk like the old it's from an old TV show
and now it's made its way to TikTok for the
young kids that don't know where it came from. Where
it's like the record stops is and it's like you're
probably wondering how I got here? Like that was Cuba
in that moment.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
See I remember record scratches because I remember records.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
An actual record scratch.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So anyway, so that that takes care of practice. Today again,
Pittsburgh Steelers here in this building, Bank of America Stadium
on Thursday night, come join us. It's gonna be a
good time. I hear the weather's gonna be lovely. It
should be a great night for.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Aaron's coming to visit us. I'm just kidding. I think
Thursday's fine.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, Thursday's fine. Quit scaring people. Leave the weather scaring.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I love a good small hurricane. Get like a category one,
a category two. I love a good small hurricane.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
A small hurricane like Willis mcgaye.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Sure, is that a joke?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I need to go to college football joke?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh hurricane?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
There you go at anyway at any rate. Yes, So
there is that we will be back. This podcast will return.
We we can't possibly keep up an everyday schedule through
the regular seas.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I kill us. Matt would kill us, our bosses would
kill us.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Those people who are trying to clean the champagne stains
out of the ceiling would kill us so many. So
to avoid death and dismemberment, we're going to cut back
a little bit. We're gonna come to you a couple
times a week with the Happy half Hour during the season.
I know you're used to once a week during the season.
We've had so much fun for the last month. We're
just gonna keep it going a little more often. So
(21:27):
we love doing it. We love doing it for you
because we do.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It for the people.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And until then, until you see us in this spot
again at a time to be determined, I don't know,
maybe Friday, maybe next Monday.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
In advance of cuts. I don't know. We'll figure it
out because we're kind of winging it.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Here's our plans for this podcast if you want to
know how well it's scripted in advance. We will see
you here next time, whenever that happens to be on
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