Hawks Live with Christian Haynes, Dee Williams & More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue
Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven
to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports Now. If
you're your host, Michael Bumpis, that's Paul Moyer.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Boy, I am really really sorry to disappoint everybody because
it's not Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's Jen Mueller and Jordan Babino tonight.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Bath.

Speaker 5 (00:26):
What a treat. What a treat, Babs.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
The party peeps are here. We get a chance to
talk football together. And I'm not I don't want to
upstage bump and Moyer, but I kind of the bar
set like here, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
I mean, it's pretty easy to do or not.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
That's say that because they're listening right now, are they?
Maybe they are? Paul Is for sure, Paul.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
We cannot wait for you to be back.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It is really fun to sit in this seat though
I have never gotten a chance to sit here, and
I'm really excited to break down on this week's game.
I'm excited to talk to a couple of Seahawks players
and to get your reaction to a few things that
are happening happening around football.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
Yeah, excited, And here we are sitting in the middle
of the mall.

Speaker 6 (01:12):
I've never done a radio show in the middle of
the Bellevue Square Mall. We have in front of us
at least thirty to forty crazy twelve a thousand, Yep, yep,
they're ready. I see some Kool fans in the house.
They're excited about last week's outcome, and we're excited to
bring you guys the pregame show ahead of this week's

(01:32):
matchup against the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I think we call that the pre to the the
pre the pre game I got it show. I think
that's where we're at. And anytime you hand me a microphone,
I am ready to go. You are listening to Hawks Live,
presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue Collection. The
show starts seven every Thursday right here, as the peeps know,
on the Seattle Sports station seven ten. We are broadcasting

(01:56):
live from Bellevue Square Center Court.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
How about if let me start with this where the
Seahawks are.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Out after two games, Babs, because Mike McDonald is too
and Oero that is something that no other Seahawks head
coach that you would think of. I know there's a
little bit of a debate happening right now on social media.
That is a really good start. Mike Holmegridden didn't start
that way. Jim Moore didn't start that way. Pete Carroll
didn't start that way. So what do we know about

(02:24):
the Seahawks through two weeks?

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Yeah, Well, fascinating jobs so far by the Hawks. And
I think the one thing that's always incredibly noticeable about
head coach changes in the NFL is change and a
huge change in terms of the coaching staff and new regiment,
but also the language within the organization and how players
now are going about their business is completely different. I

(02:49):
think when you look at the first two weeks, Jan,
you look at all of the other head coaches across
the league, the fact that the Seahawks had a chance
to select their guy, they have to feel pretty confident
and satisfied with the outcome so far in the work
that he's you know, done to this point and making
that decision.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, But what do you make of the fact that
it was a slow start for the Seahawks offense in
Week one and it was the defense that didn't seem
to get on the same page until you know, midway
through the third quarter last week.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
In New England.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
I think you're looking at the make of a really
good football team because they're not winning it one way.
You don't see the offense in week one, they weren't
high powered, put up you know, forty points and just
clicking on all cylinders. They had a slow start, backed
up in their own territory to safeties and you know,

(03:41):
some inconsistencies in terms of penalties to start the game
and pace. But you look at week two when they're
on the road and you know, had a career day
first game throwing for over three hundred yards. You got
JSN and DK both go for under over one hundred yards,
and then the defense you know, actually, you know needs
to show up their run game.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
So I look at this team so far, like last week, it.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Was a defense that helped keep the team in the
game and gave them a chance to win in the end.
Excuse me week one, but then week two on the
road against New England, don't forget the big play by
special teams with Julian Love that was a big factor.
And obviously the kicking game, but it was the offense
that kept them in the game and gave him a
chance to win.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Okay, I'm gonna get back to Julian Love and that
special teams play in just a minute, because you do
have the nickname rightfully so of big play Babs primary Well,
not primarily a lot for your work on special teams,
but as we're looking at numbers from week one and
week two, when we start studying matchups, I'm curious when

(04:45):
you look at box scores, what's the first column that
you go to.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
What are you looking for?

Speaker 6 (04:50):
A third down? Really the money down? I look at
third down in the red zone.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Those are an offense or defense.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Well, I'm a defensive guy right.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Second, Well, I'm just flipping to the right page.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Going right, and I think time on the offensive side
of the ball, rushing yards in time of possession for us,
because i think the time of possession at least McDonald's
coachings down. You know, it says a lot, and you know,
being able to control the game, you know says a
lot offensively and in our ability to move the ball

(05:23):
in first.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Second down.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
But when I'm looking on the defensive side of the ball,
I always want to check red zone, red zone, and
third down and see how we're doing all those money downs.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Okay, So if I were to tell you that week one,
Denver converted five of eighteen third downs, so twenty seven percent,
and last week it was six of sixteen for the Patriots,
which is thirty seven percent. What do those initial numbers
tell you?

Speaker 6 (05:53):
So I at least when if I remember, well, it's
like under thirty percent was a primary goal for third
down on the defensive side of the ball. Now you
look at Miami and they're converting third down at least
last year, their offense was one of the best in
the NFL, putting up a lot of points. So it's
gonna be a challenged this week. But what it tells
me is that we're winning the right downs. To me,

(06:16):
third and six plus are winnable third down that we
have to win third and eleven plus one hundred percent wins.
And oftentimes we saw big plays giving up I mean,
that was last year's defense. But the winnable downs on
third down, third and sixth plus those are money downs.
And that's when you start to see the mix of

(06:37):
sending guys from second and third level getting different. Fire
zone and man coverage blitzes to mix up the quarterbacks
looks and disguise us on the defensive side.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
What if I told you that one of the numbers
I look at first is total plays from the offense.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Okay, that does that coincide with time of possession.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
It's a little bit of time of possession.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
But it's also just opportunity because there's been so many
times in the last couple of years where you're just
not running enough plays right, and so you start to wonder, like,
why isn't the run game working well? Because you only
had forty five plays or whatever it was, and so
you just don't have a chance to get into your
playbook and to call anything that you have practiced during
the course of the week. And I really like the

(07:19):
fact that it's been sixty and sixty six for the
cold plays called.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's consistent.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Here's the one thing about time of possession that I
will point out because I learned this kind of on
the fly this week doing the podcast. I did not
expect this because I was on the sidelines and it
did not feel this way. Seahawks time of possession has
been pretty even in both games YEA and I will
tell you that in that third quarter in New England,
it did not feel that way, and in fact it
did not look that way. No, no, And when they scored,

(07:48):
think about that play to DK Metcalf, it was a
quick score. You have to get that run game going.
You cannot have so many quick scores downfield that your
defense is going back out there every two and a
half minut.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
You look at last week's game, that third quarter was
mostly dead except for that first possession. They were marching
down the field, might have I don't know, creeping into
a double digit play drive, third and one, boom stopped,
fourth down, call stopped again, turnover on downs like that
was a big shifting momentum for the Patriots until the

(08:23):
defense stepped up. Julian Love blocked that, blocked that field goal,
and then things shifted. So I know, you know, you
look at plays and time and possession. I My head
scratcher offensively for us is like, where are we in
our third and short yard calls? Where are we and
how are we being creative in those situations? I look

(08:45):
back week one, the backed up, the two backed up situations,
backed up in our own end zone. Shotgun run led
to a led to a safety. There was a holding
penalty that led to a safety as well, but then again,
third and fourth and one last week didn't convert ether
those two well.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I think I think some of that.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think some of that is getting into play calling
right and just getting a feel for what the team
does best. And Mike McDonald has said that, I'm sure
Ryan Grubb would be saying the same thing, like, we
are still trying to figure out what our fastball is
on that one.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I think some of that is.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Personnel that's been available to you because ken Walker was
not available last week, and Zach Sharpney is a very
different style runner from what ken Walker has done. And
as we'll talk about as we get into tonight.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
That offensive line is working its way together.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know, they are very talented and the interior is
completely new, so it takes a while to come together.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Pretty exciting about Pretty exciting about this offensive line given
it they're not even at full strength right now and
they're piecing it together. I think the best thing we
can say about this team so far is they're winning
despite there being a lot of improvement ahead. So a
lot to be excited about for Seahawks fans. And certainly
two and zero is a great start to the twenty

(09:58):
twenty four season.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Well, we are going to check in on some key
matchups when we come back, and Babs has mentioned special
teams a couple of times, he should know we are
going to talk about a game changing play from last
week when we come back. You are listening to Hawks
Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue Collection.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue
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Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, Hello, it's Jenuar alongside Jordan Baveno.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
If you are not with us, where are you?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Make sure that you join Hawks Live presented by the
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We are broadcasting live from Bellevue Square Center Court, and
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the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
We've got some key matchups to get to.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
But you have heard big Play Babs reference special teams
and special teams plays a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
You are known for making a few of those.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Babs let's go back to the blocked field goal attempt
on Sunday in New England. Julia Love gets credit for
that block, but he also gets credit for having some
kind of a gut feeling that caused him to change
sides of the field.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
First of all, how often does this happen?

Speaker 6 (11:22):
And it's it's about as uh, I would say, as
you know, uh, monumental or even you know, profound, as
you know, your instinctive kind of feelings about my.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Feelings about things go a wide range.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
But you have a sixth sense usually right, And I
don't know, maybe it's a lady thing.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
We'll just give you a little credit there.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
How about if we get off.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Right back on the topic of football thing I'm teasing,
I'm teasing bad.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
But but that it almost feels like, you know, you
can sense the style of the game and the momentum
and how things are happened, like we getting ready to
make a play, whether it's on defense or special teams,
like the interception that is coming.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
We're getting close.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
You're starting to feel, you know, like you know, starting
to weigh on them a little bit, and the quarterback
is like inches away from making the play.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Julian Love.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
He looks at Ray Shawan and said, let me go
to the block side because normally he's not on the
block side. He goes to the block side. Obviously saw
something on tape. They've been they've studied this, They've looked
at the mannerisms of their special teams. Uh, you know,
operation found a gap and made a play. It reminds
me back when you look at Cam Chancellor when he

(12:37):
jumped and hurt out the offense. I think it was
the Carolina Panthers game and he looked like Superman just
flew out of the sky and.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Blocked the ball and led to a big play. But
to the rule change.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
But but but those little those little secrets, those little
nuances that you in details that's in the game shows.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Up on Sunday, Julian Love, great job, film study.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
What does it take to get put on the block
side of that unit?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Because Reek Woolen is on that side.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
And I talked to Rereek after the game and he said, yeah,
it was really weird, Like Julian.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Just came over.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
He said he had a gut feeling and I was like, Okay,
let's go, let's get this play. And Reek has made
that play. Before, so teams have to account for him
coming off that edge, which I think contributed to Julian's success.
But what does it actually take to get on that
side of that team?

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Actually, it's pretty simple.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
Normally it's just a strong safety goes to the strong side,
which is normally the block side, the free safety you know,
playing defense, and you know the scoop and score guy
or you know the emergency cover guy if there's a
jail break. So you know, the fact that the fact
that he went there and and did that was was
pretty profound. That was that was a great call.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, he said he got skinny, he was able to
make the play, and it is it was a game
changer because you know what didn't happen in that game
on Sunday. There weren't a whole lot of throws downfield,
so it was really it's tough for the DBS to
come up with any sort of game changing play. I mean,
that was huge for a number of reasons, not just
when it comes to points and how that factored into
the win.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
It was hard for.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Those guys to get involved in anything other than making
a stop.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Yeah, it felt like it was nine on seven most
of the day. For the defense. But I'll get back
this last segment. We talked about how the offense had
a slow start in week one and then the defense
wasn't able to completely stop shut down to run in
week two, and I talked about, you know how this
team is starting to come together and all three phases
have contributed to both of the wins. Well, you look

(14:36):
at last week and on the defensive side of the ball,
they were a little susceptible to the run. But the
last two drives six plays for sixteen yards. That was
after the block field go, They shut them down, got
them out three and out, got the ball back to
the offense and ended the game. But then the overtime
toss they win that New England gets the ball first
three and out, they shut them down, right, I mean so,

(14:58):
I mean I thought that was, you know, very much
of a team that's demonstrating resilience and starting to build
on the run as they're going and incredible finish.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Hell of a play by Terrell Dodson too. He is
fast man. Boy. Do I like watching him play?

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (15:13):
He is really Well we got young at that at
second level linebacker level, and you're you're seeing Dotson's ability
to contribute both in the run and passing game.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Okay, so when we look ahead to Sunday, we know
that Miami has a prolific offense, and I am totally
gonna screw up the names Mike McDaniel and Mike McDonald
any number of times on game day when I'm talking
about them, I'm just gonna.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Say kemanys like I'm just gonna say.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Coach, right, Miami coach, Seahawks coach. That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I think it.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I think it could be a very interesting and intriguing matchup.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
But what does this mean for the defense?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Because you look at some of these offensive numbers and
you think, man, these are all deep shots down the field.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I don't know that that's necessarily the case, Baths.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
You look at McDaniel's ability to be an offensive guru
against our defensive guru who's now taken over the league
and innovative defensive play style. So there'll be an on
the field match up in battle, But that chess match
between coaches is going to be something to keep an
eye out.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, we can keep talking about the matchup and what
we think is going to play out, or we can
ask one of the guys who is going to be
on the field and who has been in meeting rooms
and on the practice field joining us now Seahawks rookie
Christian Haynes.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Respectable golf clap for you?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
What come on? There was a lot I heard it
all through the radio. There was a lot more. There
was a lot of people cheering for him out there, Christian.
True or false?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
You love doing interviews like this and talking about your
play in the offensive line?

Speaker 7 (16:57):
Oh? Man, I do love it. Actually, just you know,
getting the opportunity to go out and you know, embrace
it and talk about the offental line and the Seahawks
in general.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Sounds boring, but.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
Hey, some people want to listen. Then Hey, I'm here
to talk.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
All right, exactly like listen to let's talk about this.
What are the big themes that you guys have hit
in meeting rooms over the last couple of days coming
off that Patriots game.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
We just are are We're trying to emphasize that we
want to be nasty this week and you wants want
to dominate up front in general. Last week, we weren't
the greatest on the run game, and that's something that
we wanted to emphasize and push on going and then
you know also keeping you know, as protected as possible.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
When you look at kind of the flow of the
game and perhaps you know, controlling the clock and running
the game is always a part of the game plan.
How much of you know, the rhythm of the game
goes that you guys talk about on the sideline to
discuss plays that you can do that you're going to
hit on. Because what may start, as you know, a

(18:05):
heavy run approach ends up in Geno throwing for three
hundred and DK and JSN both going for over one
hundred yards.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
It's just it's the game within the game, and you know,
just got to stay on your toes every series. And
then like coach will come back and say, all what
runs do you want to in the run game? We
think is hitting And then like as the game keeps
going and going and we got to get the ball
out and Geno's hot, we're going to give them the
ball and the receivers are doing their thing. That's the

(18:33):
game plan. We're going to keep you on that.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
For those who aren't familiar with how much run block
versus pass blocking you did in college, what was the
ratio you weren't Yukon right with Jim Mora.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
What was the ratio of run to pass.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
I'll say we ran. We ran the ball probably seventy
percent of the time, and then we passed the ball
about thirty percent.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
Huh, call your play. I want you to call your play.
We're in a huddle.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Gino comes in, he calls this play.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
You're looking at your buddy next to you're licking your chops,
ready to go.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Give it to me.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
Ah, something really like, something really simple. It's like like
eighteen league. This is an outside zone play somewhere, Like
that's my bread and butther. That's like one of my
favorite plays, and it's getting out and showing them my
speed in a run blocking game. So if you call
something outside zone, wise, I'm I'm hitting and running with it.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
That's to your side.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah yeah, that's.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
A run to your side.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah. So I just like I like runs to my side.
I like creating the whole that's well off of the
line lived for like like a running back henning off
your gap and scoring the touchdowns. Like you're feeling that
like that I scored with him. So it's just a
great feeling.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
That you have.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
We saw you in the game for a couple of
series in New England. You talk about the speed of
the game. What you learn about the speed of the
game when you get in there and in real in
live action compared to preseason and practice.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
It's just more communication out there, and then you just
got to be on your toes. It's like you just
got to know everything a little bit more faster, like
process it a little bit earlier than expected, and then
just go out there and just play free. Like a
lot of preseason, a lot of guys are like overthinking
and trying to really, you know, make sure they're doing

(20:25):
their job right. When you're out there, you just got
to go out there and play free and then don't
do a mistake. But don't think about a mistake that's
gonna make you do a mistake. Just go out there
and play free. You can because you're out there for
a reason.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
I mean, you're asked to do quite a bit early
in your career. I mean as a rookie, you're playing
both left and right guard in a competition battle.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Talk about, you know, your early approach and your early
few weeks as.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Called upon, and and how if the competition have helped
mold you and shape you for game day.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
I think the competition, this is a really great thing
of mine. I love competition, the gaming, opportunity to pay
left and right guard. I didn't play a right a
left guard coming into into the Seahawks, but just learning
that position and then getting better and better each week
and also just competing our right and left is like,
it's making me better, It's making my teammates better as well.

(21:19):
And like, the first and foremost thing is I'm like,
I'm a big teammate guy, Like even if I'm if
I'm not even on the field, I'm I'm gonna help
my team regardless of even I'm on the bench, what
I'm seeing out there and like, and then once I
have the opportunity to get out there, we show and
show my thing and do what I have to do.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
We talked to you about this on draft day, but
you started forty nine straight games in college.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
That is really impressive.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Once you get past that first season, do you set
a goal for the next season, Like, were you eyeing
a number that was over forty, over thirty five, anything
like that.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
No, I was just trying to stay hell and then
I didn't I actually didn't know I was like, like
a forty nine games. I just like this grateful that
I was healthy each game to go out there and start.
So it was not like a big goal thing I
had in mind. It's just that I was like, oh wow,
I'm at forty nine games. It's like crazy for me
to think about.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's crazy for me to think about, Like, that's a
lot of football, and I have to think that when
you go to learn Ryan Grubbs offense, that ends up
paying off. But did you have to study this playbook
differently than you did in college? Like did you have
to take it down to kind of the studs and
then like rebuild your football knowledge.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
No, cause really, like a lot of offenses I came,
I came to I came from a similar offense, and
just really just I had. What I did at first
was break it down in my old offense like old terminology,
and then put it in Grubs terminology, and that helped me
get it quick. So like by the time we had
rookie Mini Camp, I knew a lot of the offense
because they gave me an iPad early, so I learned

(22:57):
a lot of the offense. Then once we got the
OTAs was just with the other guys like I was
just with them, like learning the offense. I was like
neck connect with them already knowing it.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
That's god, That's that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
I think one of the one of the biggest ways
to accelerate the curve from college to pros is how
will you adapt and pick up the play playbook and
the language, and certainly playing two positions tell me tells
me a lot about your knowledge of the game. There's
there's two things at least as you know most players
always remember. Typically it happens earlier in their career. One,

(23:30):
it's that welcome to the NFL moment. And it's two
as I made it moment. Have you had either moment yet?
And what whatether?

Speaker 7 (23:39):
I haven't had an I made it moment yet, But
I'll say, why, welcome to the NFL moment. It's just
going against Leo and Jay Reid every day I practice.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
And then.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
That'll do it too.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
I think like Jay Red hit me with like a
nice move one on one on one, and then like
going against Leo with him like the third down games.
Sin's got to have it moments. He has to get
to the pass and I'm trying to pass block. It's
a lot of good work, and those guys are really
preparing me for the games, and I really appreciate that.

(24:14):
But I get that in it like welcome to the
NFL moment, probably wants to hevy practice.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Awesome, Yeah you know what that is. That is a
really good sign for what the defense is doing. That
I actually kind of like to hear that. I would
also love to hear who the class clown is in
your meeting rooms, because look, I don't.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Know if you twelves know this.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
There's two corners of the room that really intimidate me
the most when I walk into the locker room. And
it's changed a little bit since COVID, So it used
to be offensive linemen were in one corner, Defensive linemen
were in the other.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Defensive linemen are the biggest, most boisterous.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
They are loud, they are high energy. Offensive linemen don't
want to talk to you. So it is my goal
to make every single offensive lineman talk to me and
to get every single defensive lineman to settle down enough
to do.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
An right And they're intimidating on both sides.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Now you guys are all mixed up a little bit,
so the energy feels different.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Most of you guys.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Do not smile like I don't think I've ever seen
Connor Williams smile ever. Like I would love to know
who keeps that meeting room light.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
Ah Man rookie, Michael Jarell, and I'll say Mclinton Curtis. Yeah,
those two guys are really the top the top notch.
And then you know George Fan he's a good guy too,
he keeps everybody going. And then Connor Williams he's a
little jokester, no way I refuse.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Him.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
And Olu and then you know, but we have a
really good, really great group of guys. And then it's
like in the really like a brotherhood.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
That's good.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
I mean, I know that the dynamics of relationships earlier,
early on, you're trying to understand one another, You're trying
to play well, be the best teammates, port one another
through competitive challenges, and I think that you guys really
are starting to shape yourselves into it early, pretty early,
into a really good football team. Here's a question for you,

(26:11):
all right, As an offensive lineman, would you rather the
quarterback throw for three hundred or would you rather the
running running backs rush for one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
Honestly, I'd rather have the running backs rush for one
hundred and fifty. Why It's just that it's just that
mentalities like they're running up your gaps and like even
though we're protecting, like the quarterback has to get out
with a good pocket. It's like it's just something about
running back running up your whole scoring a touchdown. So

(26:40):
it's this I have to say one hundred and fifty,
Like say like K nine and Zach both had one
hundred and fifty. All I'm loving it, but Gino those
for three four hundred, I'm loving it too.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
True story, you don't see the end result of a
pass play until like two days later, right, like you're
too busy in the trenches.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
So something like sometimes like you can just feel like
you can just feel the pass. You can see it
sometimes just going downfield, and those those are the good
ones too, But it's the runs man, like you can
just like you can just feel it. Like I remember
I was in with the Browns when we had that

(27:22):
big long touchdown, the run touchdown, and I just hear
her the crowd start roaring. I just knew he took
off for a nice big game, and then I ended
up seeing the stiff arm score the touchdown. It was just.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Run Yeah. I think I thank you referring to yeah preseason.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
It is fun.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It has been really fun to talk to you. I
can feel the energy, the excitement, and the passion you have.
I hope we see you a lot more on Sundays, Twelves.
Give Christian Haynes a round of applause. Thank you for
stopping by.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Christian.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
We will catch up with you throughout the season. We'll
let you go and enjoy your night, and we will
be back with much to come as we get you
ready for Sunday's game against the Dolphins on Hawks Live
at Bellevue Square Center Courts.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Hawkss Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue
Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court Live on air on
Seattle Sports.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Hey, twelves, give us a round of applause, because you're
going to take me right back to break. Let's get
you up to speed on what you might have missed.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
We talked about the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
And their win against the Patriots, the fact that they
are two and zero. If they win on Sunday, they
will be three and oh for the eight time in
franchise history. You heard from Christian Haynes, the rookie guard
who is excited for his opportunities, and I gotta tell you,
it is rare to see a rookie with so much
personality and it is going to be fun to watch
him grow in this system. Coming up, we are going

(28:50):
to chat with another Seahawks rookie. It is quarterback and
return man at Dee Williams. He is really a drag
of all trades. We saw him play on offense, on defense,
on special t seems.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
During training camp.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
We are going to talk to him about his career
and his journey to the NFL. That is coming up
when we come back on Hawks Live presented by the
Dining District at the Bellevue Collection.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue
Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on
Seattle Sports.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
And we are having a blast here on Hawks Live.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Just listening the twelve.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Hello everyone, I'm Jen Euler alongside Jordan Babino. Yeah, we're
holding things down tonight from Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer,
and you can come and join the guys here at
Hawk's Live at Bellevue Square Center Court every Thursday night
at seven o'clock, where you will have a chance to
win gift cards from the Dining District at the Bellevue Collection.
Tonight's they are giving away gift cards to Castilla and

(29:50):
to Wild Ginger.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
We ate at.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Castilla, and you know, I'm a bit of a foody.
I am still full. I'm a bit of a foodie.
We're going to break that down in just a little bit.
But right now we have a special guest joining the program.
We just talked to rookie guard Christian Haynes, and right
now we get a chance to talk to another member
of the Seahawks crew, a rookie who's a cornerback and
a return specialist.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
He has had I.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Think a varied career, let's just say getting to the NFL.
He went to Juco route, then he became a standout
at Tennessee. We saw him playing all over the field
during training camp.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
It is D Williams. D welcome.

Speaker 8 (30:32):
How are you doing to it?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Pretty good?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I mean, anytime somebody is going to offer a round
of applause for an intro, I'm doing pretty good, right D.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I like you yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Right, Yeah, exactly. D There's so many different directions that
we could take this conversation. How about if we start
with just your general impressions of what has happened, let's say,
in the return game special teams through the first couple
of weeks of the season, as we are all getting
used to these dynamic returns.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Yeah, I'm I'm, I'm I'm blessed to be in this position,
blessed to be here, and with with the new kickoff rule,
I'll start off with kickoff return. With the new kickoff
rule is It'll helped me out a lot, and I
feel like that's one of the main reasons why I'm
here to play in this league right now because of that.

(31:28):
And it's just a it's just an opportunity for me
to show, you know, like prove myself and like coaches
and everybody else that that I belonged here. And it's
just a way for me to get better, whether it's
just special teams or defense. But it's a blessing being

(31:50):
on that that back end of that kickoff return, uh line,
with the guys out out there in front that's blocking
for me in a b that there, and it's literally
just It's all about having that confidence and hitting one
gap and and you just put yourself in good position
versus you, you and the kicker. And as far as

(32:14):
pump return, obviously, I've been doing that for a while
and that's that's another part of teams that got me here,
uh to to where I'm at now.

Speaker 9 (32:23):
And obviously, uh that first game I had like a
muff punt or whatever, but obviously I didn't like that effect.

Speaker 8 (32:35):
I didn't I didn't like to affect my game and
like the reason why I'm here or none of that.
So that's always a big part of my game of
why I'm here. So I'm always confident back there no
matter what, like even if I get a return throughout
the day or not, I'm always confidence back there and
I just know I'll make them plays my teammates and

(32:56):
coaches want me to make.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
The Obviously a long way away from Central UH East
Central Community College to returning punts International Football League as
an undrafted free agent from one to another. A tremendous
UH salute to your work and where you are today.
You mentioned this muff punt in week one. Maybe talk

(33:20):
through the mindset. Obviously, these are these are routine plays
for you. You've you've excelled at it. You're you're you're
an expert in the return game and ability to return
that moment it happened, What are you going back to
the sideline?

Speaker 5 (33:34):
What are you telling yourself? What is coach telling you?

Speaker 6 (33:36):
How are you reinstilling that confidence to go out there
the next time and make a play?

Speaker 9 (33:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (33:43):
When I got on the side line, you know, I
didn't think nothing of it. I just had next play
mentality of my teammates keeping me up, coaches keeping me up.
The coaches really didn't say much. They knew like from
that time when it happened I got on the side
line that like uh my mom said, changed, confidence went up,
and my teammates just kept me up through the whole

(34:05):
entire process. But I know we all make mistakes, and
I feel like, uh, that was my welcome to the
welcome to the lead rookie mistake that I had, and
I just try to uh capitalize off of, you know,
just being the best I could be and just carrying

(34:25):
my work from practice onto the sundays.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
Well, it's no doubt that the return game showed up
again last week.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
It nearly broke one against the Patriots.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
What But I'm trying to understand, Like what position do
you love most? I mean, are your offensive guy defensive guy,
or you're like, coach put me in. I want to
play ball, Yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (34:46):
Just I just love ball, man. I like to help
out the team anyway possible. Like obviously I love offense.
I love offense and defense especial teams too.

Speaker 9 (34:57):
But like it's I.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
Just love being around. I love the ball in my hands,
you know, like love attacking the ball. It doesn't matter
like what side of the shot. I'm all like, as
long as I'm out there in between them lines, like
I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Was there ever a point, though, d where somebody told
you that you needed to specialize in one thing or
the other, because it is rare to have a guy
who could play in all three phases of the game.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
It is, And I just I just have to thank
God for that, for that blessing me with that ability
to you know, to have the the talent that I
have and for it to get me this far. And
it doesn't bother me at all when you know they
want you to just stick to one side of the ball,
like it like like in my mind, it just goes

(35:47):
to like, I'm just helping out. You know, I'm still
helping out the team the best way I can. As
long as I contribute any any way, then that's fine
with me.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
At what point did you start thinking that the n
FELT was a real possibility for you?

Speaker 8 (36:04):
Uh? I mean, I'm pretty sure we all had that
that that gland or like moment in high school of
saying I'm gonna make it to the NFL. I'm playing
the NFL. But there really wasn't I really wasn't focused
on that in high school. I was always my mindset
was always I just want to I just want to play.

(36:26):
I just want to play on TV to where my
family can can see me play on TV, which which
happened at Tennessee. So uh, that was that was kind
of my goal. But God blessed me with with more opportunities,
you know, to to come to Seattle and and continue
my uh my football journey in my career. So I'm
just blessed every every day that I get to walk

(36:48):
in that building and get to work in d.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
There's a lot of talk and conversation about, uh, you know,
the profile that coach McDonald has built and his to
put together complex defenses and make it tough for our offenses.
I want to shine, maybe, you know, go a little deeper,
a layer deeper in the defensive backs room because this
group is pretty talented. Ray, Shawn, Juni and Love obviously

(37:14):
made the Pro Bowl last year, but even the backups,
like I mean, Trey Brown steps in there, and Cody Bryant,
even yourself, you stepped in there with that forest fumble
earlier this season two weeks ago in Week one, talk
about this defense and excitement from the defensive back perspective
and what is the real you know conversation internally of

(37:35):
how good you guys can be.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
Man, I feel like we can meet it. We can
be the best. We can be the best out there.
We all got confidence in each other. We make it
a family situation through every meeting we have, even outside
the building, we contact each other and make sure we're
on the same page if it's a certain play we
need to go over, and we just we don't leave

(37:58):
nobody behind, like we we literally like carry each other
like an army, Like we leave nobody behind. And it's
it's just for me being a rookie and just being
in there with the older guys, they didn't taught me
so much was he coming since I came from offense
off the top of the ball. They just taught me
a lot. And like obviously coach Case Scott, he's a

(38:19):
he's a great coach. He's gonna make sure you know
everything you need to know for you stuff out earnfield
and new players, older guys. They're gonna make sure.

Speaker 9 (38:28):
The same name.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
That's awesome, Carl Scott defensive backs coach, great leader. Uh
And and preparation for for game day. Maybe one final
question because from one d back to another, there's always
internal competition. So maybe there's an incentive for or a
reward for a great play within the defensive backs room,

(38:51):
either for the game or for the season.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
You guys like insight.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
To share trying to find out, you know, like what
is the internal competition or reward that you guys have
that that you guys that's that helps build This is
what helps make the team close. Right when you're able
to cry the.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Rookie filling secrets to everybody.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
That's one way to do it.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
The other way to do it is you order a
lot of you know, drinks and send the rookie to Bill,
that's another way to do it. But that's also a
great bonding time, Jim that I'm trying to get d
Williams to share. What's the reward for the internal competition
for DBS. I don't know, the most tacos, first interception,
one hundred buck pot, fifty buck pot, you know, rookie

(39:36):
teller at the end of the season.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
Yeah, we we, we do. We do similar to all
those like, but we are a number one thing is
whoever catches catch the first pick get the prize, you know,
And we just always challenge each other with that, and
like even if like obviously I haven't got any any
defensive snaps, but like even if it's carried on in practice,

(40:00):
like whoever get the first pick, Like, we just always
challenged each other to make plays out there and and
like during practice, during practice, will we'll let each other know,
like today, today's the day to attack the ball, is
gonna make plays, be smart and be smart against our

(40:21):
offense and everything. But they everybody knows, like when we
get out of that meeting room and it's time to
you know, go practice or be ready for a game,
like will whoever make that first play get the prize?

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Awesome.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
Gee, man, I'm so excited for your You know, look,
the path of the NFL is already complicated, but coming
from Juco doing it the way you did. Man, I'm cheering,
I'm saluting you and looking forward to watching you continue
to grow within this defense.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
D I wish you could see how much Babs is
smiling over some of those answers you.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
You have really thrilled him tonight.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Thank you so much for making time and for joining
us up all right, hopefully you can hear the twelves clapping, twelves,
keep that applause going. That is d Williams here as
your return specialist for the Seahawks. We will see a
lot more of him as the season rolls on.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
We are going to talk a lot more.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
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Speaker 3 (41:35):
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Speaker 2 (41:39):
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Speaker 3 (41:42):
It is genular alongside a big play.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
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(42:07):
to hear our live guests, and to get ready for
the next week of Seahawks football. Right now, we are
going to take a look around the NFL. We've got
an eye on that Thursday night game between the Jets
and the Patriots. Babs, I'm gonna need some numbers on
this because there is about four and a half minutes
to go in this game.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
The Jets are winning twenty four to three.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Now, Seattle just saw the Patriots last week and Stevenson
was running all over the field. It is the calling
card of the Patriots, and tonight there is nothing doing
for Girodmeo and the past.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
It is tough slanting. I'm not even sure who was
showing up. You look at the stats right now. I
told you my two key stats that I go to
third down in red zone Patriots one of seven on
third down to Jets ten of fifteen red zone Jets
three of four, three of three would go to go.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
The Patriots haven't even gotten to the red zone yet.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
You talked about time of possession, see to me forty
minutes time of possessions of Jets. So certainly a different
New England team that showed up this week, this week
against the Jets.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Look, it is a short week for the Patriots. It
is a team that is in a little bit of
a rebuilding process.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
But I gotta be honest, that kind of.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Hard knows, old school style of football that we saw
last week, I thought that was going to translate a
little bit differently Now. The Jets struggled against the Niners
in Week one. Turns out Aaron Rodgers still has a
little bit of magic left. Apparently the Seahawks will face
Aaron Rodgers and the Jets week thirteen in New York.

(43:38):
That is one of the reasons that I have an
eye on this game. Other news happening around the NFL,
the Carolina Panthers are benching top pick number one overall pick,
Bryce Sjung. They're going to start Andy Dalton week three
against the Raiders. The Seahawks have faced Andy Dalton a
number of times. Boy, he has been in the league
a long time. Bump bump, Sorry about that, Babs, bumple

(44:00):
love that.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Just go ahead and send that cut to him.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Babs, what do you make of what's happening in Carolina?
And what does this mean for the future of Bryce Young?

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Wow? You know what it's you know, it's it's tough.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
You know, certainly when you're looking, you know, bringing a
new coach, you're trying to find a spark.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
You're trying to get.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
The team, you know, excited about about your player, your quarterbacks.
Certainly he has the keys to the franchise. I think
it's just a small step back. I mean, if you
look at the Panthers, you know their quarterback player hasn't
been consistent, especially you know, across the board with some
of the other players. But Bryce, I think it's the learning,
learning lesson for him. Certainly you hate to see it

(44:44):
as a player, uh, but the game can be humbling
and this is a chance for him to you know,
kind of have that that humble approach to learn how
he can be more efficient in his reads, how he
can get this offense going and lead these men, you know,
to to turn around his franchise.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Well, and perhaps it's the best example we have right now,
although not a number one for one comparison, but what
Sam Darnald is doing in Minnesota is pretty remarkable because
you didn't look at Sam Darnald early in his career
and say, yep, he's going to be the guy that
takes care of that.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Well.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
I mean I think the same way with the Texans. Yeah,
look at what CJ's doing. I mean he's putting together
a great resume, making his Houston team almost the favorite,
if not the favorite, in the AFC South for that division.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
So again, if that's.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
The barometer of you know, if your other peers, you know,
same class, same draft class, nearly similar situation, new head coach,
new coordinator, new language, leaning a group of men and
trying to, you know, gain the attention of the locker room.
I think Bryce will get a turn around.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Well, you've also got Caleb Williams and bow Nicks. The
results team wise might look one way, but those are
high powered quarterbacks that have not found this necessarily instant success.
And I think part of this, as you keep pointing out,
it is just the way of the NFL. If you
were going to be a top pick, then you are
going to need to be thrown into the fire.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
And right now you just drew my attention.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
Yep, Rake making the fact.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
That Drake May is now in the game for the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Jacoby Brissett on the sidelines with a towel over his head.
There is two thirty eight to go in this game.
It is just a handoff now to Stevenson up the middle.
He's got some yards. The Jets are just going to
let them run this one out with a twenty four
to three lead. If we continue conversation about quarterback play.
Of course, it is Miami quarterback to a tongue of

(46:38):
biloe that had headlines all over the place this week. Look,
I don't know that I am the best person to
weigh in because I am not the person who has
ever absorbed or.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Dished out a hit on the football field.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
What is your reaction to seeing that hit and to
what has happened since?

Speaker 6 (46:57):
Yeah, you know, I mean, it's such a sensitive situation
and topic and talking about too.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
I don't think tour should have my opinion.

Speaker 6 (47:04):
I mean, you know, certainly has his decision in his life.
I mean I thought it was already risky after the
last concussion. I mean to to you know, to be
on the field like that nearly passed out for a
period of time, and it was, it was it was
insane to watch as a player and certainly even probably
even more hard to you know, to go out and

(47:26):
try to play after that as a player.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
If you were on the team.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
But you look at the the hit last week, and
of course it's I mean demor Hamlin. It's like how
it could have been more weird than you know, but
it didn't look like that violent of a hit, you know,
And it almost begs the question is, you know, how
much more at risk is to given you know, the history.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
The concussion history.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
So I kind of got to beat around the locker
room to hear players, you know, how they're reacting to,
you know, and preparing for which you know.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
The different quarterback this week.

Speaker 6 (48:02):
Certainly it's not the same offense, and it's not much
of a concern around who they're playing, I mean not players,
like it doesn't matter like line us up. But in
concern for him as a player, you're like, okay, well, longevity, life,
you know, things, a lot more things in lives that
are greater in football, and certainly something that he has
to evaluate with his family.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yes, absolutely, his health should be paramount. It is a
tough thing though, because it is also his livelihood. Yeah, right,
and the way that you provide for your family. It
is interesting when you look at the numbers and you
kind of shift this towards the conversation about this week's opponent. Miami,
as we mentioned in our one, has the top offense
in the league. They averaged over four hundred yards in

(48:45):
offense last week. They are not doing it the way
that I thought they would. They have plenty of explosive plays.
These plays are not long developing plays downfield. This is
a trend in the NFL. Everything is kind of the
short place and then it's the yards after catch, which
might also mitigate the fact that two was not there
and that you're gonna see Skyler Thompson as the QB.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Well, you look at this offense last year, one of
the top offenses in the league and points per game.
I think they led the league in yards per game,
and Tour was pretty efficient. In the passing game, you
have to know the key target. I mean if Skyler,
look if first start, you know in some time the
number one target. I think Tarreek's probably gonna get fourteen

(49:29):
to sixteen targets. But then you throw Waddle in there
and then they're pretty balanced in the passing game. It
it always to me like goes a little layer deeper
when you start to talk about the play calling. So
you know, I know McDaniels is a wizard in his
approach to the game.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Reminds me a lot of Sean McVay.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
Excuse me, well that too, well, the ability to change
personnel very often, so Sean Payton's who I was thinking
of jump always you know, changing personnel, making sure that
the defense is on your toes, perhaps getting a substitutionaire.
But again those things that I know that that Hawks

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defensively are preparing for to mitigate.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
Some of those pre snap procedure calls.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Well, in the Seahawks offense knows exactly what to prepare
for on defense because the defensive coordinator, Anthony Weaver, he
spent the last two years coaching with Mike McDonald in Baltimore.
So that is going to be a very similar look
to what they get every day at practice. Our conversation
is going to continue next.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
You know what I'm going to do best?

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Truly, what are you doing? You give something away?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
No, well maybe, but mostly I'm just gonna put you
on the hot seat and sit on the spot.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
That is what's going to happen next.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Oh, and we're going to go into detail on what
we had for dinner tonight. I almost like I'm almost
hungry again thinking about it. I'm not quite not really, No, No,
I just.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
Hey, yeah, I just I mean, I just we needed
another table.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
We had so much food.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
We didn't you know what.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I'm glad we didn't take pictures of that table, because
nobody needs to know how much food I can put
away on one city.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
That's for sure. It is delicious.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
We are gonna be right back on Hawks Live with
all of that from Bellevue Square Center Courts.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue
Collection and Bellevue Square Center Court Live on air on
Seattle Sports.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
It is the place to be on Thursday nights during
the Seahawks season. Just listen to the twelves. They're having
a great time, and so are we.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Jordan Baveno alongside myself, Jen Mueller, we are holding down
the fort for Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer and I
might just be crashing dinner on Thursday nights from here
on outbacks Like, I didn't realize.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
That that's what they were doing.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
They were coming and having dinner every week at the
Bellevue Collection.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
I'll meet you here the.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Dining district at the Bellevue Elections. I really like that commercial.
Have you heard that commercial?

Speaker 6 (52:02):
I have?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
There's so many places to speed.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
I recognize the Bellevue.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Tonight we ate at Castilla Lounge, and I have to say,
I am so proud of you and Nas because I
looked at the menu before dinner and I sat there
and I thought, I don't know what our producer, Nasa
Chobe's gonna eat.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Why he's more like a chicken fingers than French fries.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Like look, loves good food. But this was tapus. Guys.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
We had octopus on the table. It is so good.
That is one of my favorites. We had the papas
I dove in too.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
By the way, I'm not a big occupus eaters.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
We had croquettes, ham and cheese croquettes. You had some shrimp,
Nasa had some steak, Payea.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
A lot a lot of good food. I mean the
lamp chops were amazing.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Also, here's what I'm gonna say, pro tip, guys. If
you go and you sit in a booth that's for
four people, only bring two because here's what's gonna happen.
You're gonna have so many plates on your table the
other like, you can't fit more people.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
We had three and that was a stretch.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
My only complaint they gave you a little small plates.
I mean they gave you a lot of food, it's
small plates.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
I don't like.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
If we liked each other more, we would have been
eating off of the plates together.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
You didn't need the small plates.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
Like, come on, look and there's there's a lot more
options that we could have.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
There was forty options.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
So you better believe I'm gonna be asking where the
guys are eating every week and showing up to have
dinner with them.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
Let's just say when the bill came, I had to
go to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
You forgot your wallet and your other coat, didn't.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
You that's a pro Bowl move for me.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
That's where you win the most.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
The Jets, by the way, have just won. They have
knocked off the Patriots. Not unsurprising based on the four
and the numbers that we were talking about a few
minutes ago. But as promised, I'm gonna put you on
the hot seat, Babs, and we're gonna do over under
for the Seahawks. This is gonna be based on twenty
twenty three numbers.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
You're using your computer, which is a little unfair.

Speaker 6 (54:16):
No, I was just looking at the stats on a
Thursday night game. I wanted to see how terrible the
Patriots were. Last I looked, they had ninety total yards.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
No, they did not.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
They did.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
Let's see. Let's see what the finished jan one hundred
and thirty nine. So Drake moved the offense a little bit,
moved the ball.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
That was great Radio waiting for you to find the stats.
How about if we kick things up and not share
with Seahawks over under? You ready do it twelve so.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
You can play along. You can clap if you like
his answers, you don't have to. If you can boo, if.

Speaker 6 (54:49):
Thumbs up, if you think if you whip me or
thumbs down, if you all right.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Babs thumbs up and thumbs down does not work on radio.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
Well, i'm talking to my audience. I mean, I know
we actually you can't.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
See make audio.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
Okay, all right, I'll give you an audio.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Let me just create Gino Smith completion percentage? Is it
over under sixty four point seven percent?

Speaker 5 (55:12):
It better be over I'm going over comes up.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Thank you for the applause.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Right, okay, Gino Smith passing touchdowns over under.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
Twenty twenty He better do that it by week ten.
Thumbs up over.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
So what do you think he's gonna finish with?

Speaker 5 (55:30):
I'll think he finished with thirty two.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
That's exactly the number that I was thinking. It was
like mental telepathy, right to you.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
I think we got something going thirty two.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
We got something going.

Speaker 6 (55:38):
Good food a mental connection. The number thirty two. Weird
things happening.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
It's it is boy bumping' moyer.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Better watch out. This is about to be our show.
DK medcalf total yards. Last year DK goes over one
thousand yards. He records one one hundred and fourteen yards.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
And this is the tricky one.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
This one is that JSN just sneaking up there.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
He's definitely he's Jays is my twelve hundred yard receiver
for the Hawks this year.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
I think one hundred for Jason.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
I'm telling you he's he's going to do it. He's
he's gonna do it. It's not there. He's gonna be
really close. So JSN is a thousand yard receiver this year.
That means DK will clip the eleven fourteen mark in
receptions at least, I hope. So I'll get him back
now three the last four years over one thousand yards.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Let's get him going.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
You sound less.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Up up, thumbs up. Okay, I'm going over. I'm going over.
I mean, that's that's kind of like a tweiner.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
That's almost like that's almost like a break even, right,
you know, but I'm going over.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
I'm going over.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Okay, So what are you gonna do with Tyler Lockett
and total receptions last year it was seventy nine.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Yeah, I think that's a push. I'm gonna say push.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
That is not an option. And I'm actually gonna go
I'm going under. Yeah, I'm gonna go underrun on what
we've seen. Not to be clear, that is not because
he's not influencing or affecting the Sure he can draw
dpies all day long and I am just fine with that.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
And that is even better than one of the best.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
What he's an artist at it.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
And it's like he's so sneaky and it's almost like
you believe that it was an accident.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
It's not an act.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
I mean it was that was a Draymond Green flopper
or something, you know what I mean, Like Tyler, Tyler
hooked his arm around a defender and then fell to
the ground.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
It's like he has also what a great move like it? Okay,
I'm sorry, man, We're not Tyler. Yeah, down below under
I'm going under.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Okay, ken Walker rushing yards over under nine hundred and
five oh under.

Speaker 6 (57:52):
I mean the big concern for me is not skill
set and whether you can do it or not, it's
availability his health.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
So he is.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Dealing with an oblique I can see that. But we
do know that Ryan Grubb wants to run the ball.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Somebody is gonna have to get those rushing yards or
something to the equivalent, you know what. I actually think
that's where Jaysn comes in because last week I think
some of those passes to JSN you know those th s. Yeah,
that acted like your run game when you couldn't get anything. Okay,
sacks allowed thirty eight last year. Hmmm, I'm going over

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that is stuns silence.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
I'm going over over thirty eight sacks.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
No, no, no, no, no, no, sorry, no, you do not.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
Want to the other Sorry, Okay, my.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Bad sacks allowed? How's the office?

Speaker 5 (58:44):
Defensive mind? Defensive mind? I'm sorry, Ah, under under thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
He's so secretive about that.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
Under thirty eight, I think I think we'll we'll we'll
see the run game start to have more of a presence.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
But under thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Okay, I'll believe you.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
And we just had Christian Haynes here. I'm sure he
would come after me if I said anything different.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Point yep.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
He probably listening on his ride home.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Yeah, self preservation. I do like that.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Okay, let's flip this over to the defensive side. Last year,
the Seahawks had forty seven sacks. Now here's what I'm
gonna tell you. I will skew the numbers just a
little bit on this. When you look at the sacks
for the Seahawks right now, when you look at blitz rate,
they are among the lowest in the league. But when
you look at QB hurries and total pressures, they are

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in the top six. So what does that mean when
it comes to the sack total.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
For the deep gosh, doggy, you know what.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
The sacks are gonna be tied to the turnovers on
the back end, so interceptions. I think this team will
be top five in sacks by the end of the season.
I think they'll be top five, which means they'll have
to gosh, no.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Forty seven.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
I want to say, it feels like fifty two fifty
three sacks would the league maybe higher? I think they
hit fifty this year. Fifty sacks this year. Who's winning?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Did you consider Byron Murphy? Because that's what the twelve say.
Make sure that you consider Byron Murphy.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Hey Murph, he's learning, he's getting better, working his games,
interior defensive lineman.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Fifty sacks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Okay, well, we are going to continue with you on
the hot seats next when we talk that talk.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
So we've just we've done over under.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Here's what we're going to discuss coming up next. Who
winds up leading the team in receiving yards?

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Oh, my goodness, who.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
You are all Pro could be on defense.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Okay, there is one, and we will talk Charles Cross
in his chance for a Pro Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
So I just gave you a head start. I've got myself.
Don't don't answer now. I won't don't answer now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
That is coming up when we come back right here
on Hawk's Live.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and
Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Well, normally you would be hearing Michael Bumpas and Paul Moyer.
Today you are gonna hear Gen Mueller and Jordan Babino.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Talk that talk.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Yeah, an even better treat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
And I mean, you know, it's like the substitute teacher
when they come in and you just have a lot
more fun. That's kind of what we are on this
Thursday night here.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
I've listened to bump and Paul talk.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
Sometimes it's I'd rather watch Oatmeal Harden, you know, but
that is I don't paint dry.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
We need I don't. I don't think we need to
stir that up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Okay, you know what I'm not going to get in
the middle of three former NFL players fighting.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
Well, here's the thing. Bump and I kind of go
back and forth.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
It's like he's Mike, my other twin, you know, but
people mistake me for Bumpus and Marcus true Fund often,
so uh, I got to always give him a little bit.
I was like, man, someone gave you a compliment today,
They said.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
You look like me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
The real compliment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Would be who has better hands? And right now it
is time to talk that talk. Oh okay, and a
few topics here, and I really just want you to
state that case because we've only got a few minutes left.
We're under thirty minutes left of Hawks live here. We
touched on this, and I want you to state your case.

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Who will lead the Seahawks in receiving yards this year?
Is it DK Tyler or JSN Jason?

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Oh you didn't like that one. I know, I told
you I was gonna throw off.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
I think jsaid is well on the way to be
a highlight and an integral part of this offense. I
know he's still the number three receiver, but the way
Grufts is using him, his skill set and that slot
middle of the feel he and Gino are starting to
develop a great connection.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I think it was not specified whether we're talking about
receiving yards or receptions. And because of the way that
they are moving DK around. We have seen this a lot,
and because of the mismatch that he can create and
the way that offenses running, those explosive yards are gonna
be there for DK. Jsn is gonna have to work
hard for those yards out of the slot.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
I think it's gonna be DK downfield.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
But what I would say is this, I will not
give anybody in fantasy football advice on which wide receiver
to take, because they are all going to be really
close and it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Week to week on who gets more.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Okay, state your case and talk to that top.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
The Seahawks will have at least one All Pro either
first or second team on this defense by seasons en.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
Oh wow ah. You know what my best guess is.
I think it's gonna come from the defensive line. I think, gosh,
dog it. I think Big Cats definitely already on his
way playing.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
Like a pro bowler at all pro.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
I mean, is he's a game changer already. I think
he's double digits already a quarterback. Hurry certainly got to
the quarterback last week second and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
I believe he finished with like Big Cat I'm telling you, if.

Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
Big Cat is playing life a Pro Bowl to All
Pro already two weeks into.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
The sea, youre's my only thing with that, and I
totally agree, and I am on the same page with you.
My only kind of concern is what do those numbers
end up looking like? And when you start tallying those
votes and when people start weighing in, do they truly
see all the work that he's doing and do they
see how much he is being asked to do. I
think he might end up falling short if those numbers,

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those stats do not continue with the same ring.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
I'll take you to Castillo? Is that a better what happen?
How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Kat, all Pro or else?

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
Gen's gone eat a plate full of tappas and or
fourteen people ordering everything on the menu.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
How's that sound?

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
It's I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
And it's also not that I don't want him to
make it. I just think it could be challenging. Okay,
same thing, Charles cross Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
That talk makes it to his first Pro Bowl in
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Oh wow, No, I think he gets snuffed. I think
he gets snubbed. So for some reason, it always happened
to one player that you think has had a great season. Cross,
I think it's gonna be dynamic in his role get snuffed.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Do you think he can play to the level of
Trent Williams.

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
Well, I think he can seed Trent Williams play. Certainly,
Trent's not playing on a level at which he used to.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
He's like he's my age.

Speaker 6 (01:05:27):
He's a dinosaur like forty something, you know, trying to
hang out with these twenty four year old young men
and tax him around. I mean, look, I mean he's
a wide load to run around and has all of
the technique and the savvy. But Cross, definitely where he
is in his young career, I feel that he could
rise above Trent Williams play this season, I would might
not be making the money Trick.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Williams, Yeah me on the next contract. I would say
some of this comes down to numbers, and right now
he has been rated very, very highly when it comes
to pass protection, when it comes to his assignments and
setting the edge, I would think he might need another
year or two of doing that to truly get his due.
But also it's gonna come down to what the offense

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ends up looking like. So your last opportunity to talk
that talk and state your case is which is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
More likely to get fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
First, the Seahawks run struggles from last week or their ability.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
To run the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
Oh, the defense, they're gonna stop the run.

Speaker 6 (01:06:26):
I think they'll get the run stopped faster than they are,
but they'll get the run game going. Still uncertain of
the status K nine and what they're doing in the backfield.
And if that's the case, no problem. Gino can handle
the offense. They can continue to do the you know,
the short pass plays that can act as a run
on first and second down and find ways for Grub

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to utilize or for them, you know, to get outside
of you know, not having their their number one rusher
in K nine. So defense is a priority, certainly something
that they weren't satisfied with with that run performance against
the Patriots. I think they get the deepensive side of
the ball picks first.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I also think some of that those numbers are skewed
with the Patriots. If we just saw it tonight, they
couldn't get anything going. You know that they're going to
sell out to run the ball. Very few teams have
the running back that the Patriots do and are going
to sell out that hard every week, So I think
that there's that on the other side of things. This
is the thought that came up to me and I

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wrote this on I actually asked Mike McDonald about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
This this week.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
At what point do you start trusting these numbers right?
At what point do you have a large enough sample
size that you are seeing trends?

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Is it like week four or five?

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Because I think, as it relates to this conversation, your
offensive line needs about two more weeks and Charles Cross
and I were talking about this today, like you need
to have a little bit more time together to build
that continuity.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
I think it's going to take off in life week fives.

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
I absolutely agree.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
I love that too, because I said, our offensive line
isn't even at full full power. Yes, so uh so, yeah,
we get healthy at the right time, make the right
stride and uh.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
You're ready to see what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
All right, but you're still sticking with defense.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
I'm sticking with the defense.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Defense fixes run defense.

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
You know, you got a defensive mind that had coach
you understand the defensive philosophy. Uh, and the ability of
you know, the makeup this team is being able to stop.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
You can't stop the run in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Stuff, they stopped it in critical moments success that was
really important. So when it comes to trusting those numbers,
is it about week four for you?

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Are you like an analytics kind of person.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
No, I'm just wondering, because look, every week when you
start to break around these matchup, No, when you start
to break down the matchups, that's like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Do I trust my eyes? Do I trust the numbers?
How do you like? What are you going into a game?
What's real?

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
You're using?

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
You know, that probability to make a decision on fourth down,
whether you should go for it or not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I took math for liberal arts majors in college. You
know what I'm not doing worried about statistical probability.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
In the middle of a game. I got four seconds
to make a.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Call, you know, in the game. I mean when you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Don't worry, I'm just teasing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Also, I'm afraid you're going to get too deep into
the numbers and I'm not going to be able to
keep up, So get lost there.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
Look, I think sometimes that there's a little instinct and
gut associated with some of those play calling decision making,
especially in the moment calls. But what you hope for
is that coaches get it right, you know, because I
coaches have you know there, they take that seriously to
make sure that the players are in the best position right,
to simplify the game, Put the players in a position

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and make plays and let it come down to the
performance on the field, not necessarily you know, a coaching
era or you know, a call in a certain situation.
I think I think that they'll get that. That's more important.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Yeah, you know what, I think I think the twelves
are going to play a big role this week.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
Absolutely hope. So absolutely hope.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
So that was your cue, twelves, Yeah, that was your cue.
You know what, We've just got a few minutes left
together tonight. Coming up next, we are going to give
you our final thoughts and our keys to victory, including
two things we need to see for the Seahawks to
come away with a three and oh start.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
That is up next right here on Hawks Live.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Hawkss Live, presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue
Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court live on air on
Seattle Sports.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Welcome back to Bellevue Square Center Court. Jen Mueller alongside
Jordan Babino. We are wrapping up, just a few minutes left.
In fact, it is just enough time, Babs to get
your final thoughts and your keys to victory. But you
know what I forgot to do when I forced you
to talk your talk. I forgot to ask Marshawn Lynch,

(01:11:09):
first ballot Hall of Famer.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
No, oh wow, I would say no. Yeah, I'm gonna
say no.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
I think it might take a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Yeah, it'll be interesting though, there's a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
I think it gets there, but I don't think first
first year.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
You know what, I can't wait for his induction.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
Him to massage the back of coaches shoulders.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
I did not know where you were going with that first,
but I was thinking was his Hall of Fame induction speech.
Here's what I'm thinking right now. We need to get
to your keys to victory, your final thoughts, and your
couple things that you need to see for the Seahawks
to come away with a win.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
All right, Are you gonna steal mine?

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
No? No, I'm nope. I'm ready to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Get pretty upset if you do.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
I think so.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Two things we need to see on Sunday to win
a game seven three and outs on the defense, side
of ball.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
I'll give them seven.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
That is really specific and really hard to do.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
They hit the number.

Speaker 6 (01:12:09):
I guess if you're making a double parlay, Yeah, maybe
hard to do, but you also put two safeties.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
In there, and you might be a millionaire when you're done.

Speaker 6 (01:12:18):
But seven three and outs, the six three and outs
in week one, seven three and outs last week against
the Patriots, I think we push or exceed that number.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
That's the first thing we need to do.

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
The second thing we need to do is we need
to see Tyler Huntley. Look, I know Scott's they're starting quarterback,
but if they're now in their third quarterback is not
going well for them. So defense, I put a lot
of onus on you. I mean's a lot of ask
right there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
You see. I didn't even go to the offensive side
of the ball. It's all about the debaby.

Speaker 8 (01:12:48):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
I was kind of I was kind of on that
side of the ball too, because when you look at
the explosive plays from the Dolphins, They've had three plays
of at least thirty nine yards the first couple of weeks,
and last week they added sixteen plays of it at
least ten yards. This is something that they led the
league in last year by a wide margin. So I

(01:13:10):
need to see, let's say, like less than five plays
of ten or more yards.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
And on the back end.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Of this, because the DBIS could not be as involved
last week with so many run plays, I need to
see I'm gonna up at I think earlier today I
said three pass breakups.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
I'm going to say at least four pass breakups. And
if a.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Couple of those ending interceptions, what are you looking up?

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
I want to say how many times they ran the
ball last week?

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Because they ran the ball a lot, there were not
In fact, I can.

Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
Nearly one hundred and fifty yards Russian.

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
But I think total offense ended up running the ball
thirty four times against the Bills. So I think that's
also an indicator of what might be the approach this week.

Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
And that's why.

Speaker 6 (01:13:57):
And then another challenge of getting this run game fix
is a priority. You got a backup quarterback on the road,
hostile environment.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
I think they're going to the game plan is going
to be to run the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Yeah, and you know what time of possession we talked
about this. It was pretty even at the end of
the game. It was not that way during the middle
part of the game. It needs to be more even, Right,
you need to dominate that. And that goes to the
run game.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
I love those big, you know, fifty yard touchdown passes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
I really love milking the clock and running the ball more.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
Yeah, you're more like a four minute offense kind of
person and more like, hey, let's let's air it up
two minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Every day's on the line.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
No, I want both. But in the middle, are you
trying to bait me? I'm two hours in and I
just figured this out.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
Yeah, talk that talk.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
I want the offense to be on the field considerably
longer than the defense.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
Well, so far they haven't done that, haven't achieved that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
They both games, they've been out possessed in terms of
time of possession, and again last week was clear indicator
of their lack of run game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
You know what I would like in football that we
have in baseball. That it does not exist in football,
but would be super helpful in like calculating some of
this at THEATA games.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
There's corn at football games.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
No, I want indifference. Oh, that's my favorite call in
all of sports. Safety is a close second indifference. You know,
like when the runners steal second base in the ninth inning,
it doesn't matter because it's a seven to zero blowout,
and so they don't even give them the stolen base.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
It's just golden difference.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Really, yes, I would like those yards at the end
of the game where you're just like running out the clock,
like I just I want the indifference yards right like
you're kneeling down, You're just you're just milking the clock
because then I can.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Judge your offense a little bit better, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:15:39):
And you're not just milking the clock when he throws
the ball and receivers trying to catch you. I would
like to see in difference not being a different I'm
not gonna bat it down or tap it away, and
I'm not going to count my interception because it's we
got the game one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
No, would you you know what I would like?

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
I would like for this to be a topic next
week on top that top because.

Speaker 6 (01:15:57):
Sacmarial, are you inviting me back?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I really feel that Bump and Moyer would be great
at starting this conversation and that we'll be in the
peanut gallery just you know, like adding stuff in.

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
Eckling for sure, Heckling for.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Sure, absolutely no there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
It was a radical idea for a rules change, babsone.

Speaker 6 (01:16:17):
You know what, our rules committee in the league has
considered a lot of rules changes.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
That won't be one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
I would like to think of myself.

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
I think that's going to How would that affect fantasy
I mean, look at all of our Fantasy league owners
right here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
They want here's the problem. I don't play.

Speaker 6 (01:16:32):
I don't play METAe either. I'm the guy who forgets
to set my roster.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
I yeah, I've already talked about this.

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
I just my brain.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
I'm too busy planning my next meal. I don't have
time to set a lineup.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
Where are we going next?

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Are we doing?

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
Collection?

Speaker 6 (01:16:52):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
I know, gosh, I'm coming back to the dining district
at the Bellevue Collection.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
I'll see you Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
I'll see you Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
I think that is just about it. We have some
special things to dole out. Thank you to Christian Haynes
for joining us live here at Bellevue Square. Thank you
to Dee Williams for hopping on the phone giving us
some insights on his special team's play. Our board operator tonight,
Noah rittorot are on site engineer Brenda Rogers, production assistant

(01:17:21):
Ashley Oakes, and our executive producer Nasa Chobe. Round of
applause for those folks and for Jordan Babino for providing
all of the analysis tonight. The Seahawks pre game show
is live this Sunday, starting at ten am. I believe
that's when you can see Jordan Babino next.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
I know that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
Oh you'll hear me. Remember it's radio.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
I was inviting the twelves to come and see you
at lumen Field well obviously and take pictures.

Speaker 5 (01:17:47):
I'll be there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Michael Bumpus will be there. Ray Roberts will be there.
I'll wave to you from the sidelines.

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
Michael, is my radio twin done? It's done to coin Ad,
He's my radio twin.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
That is a scary thought.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
All of that starts Sunday at ten am from lumen Field.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Until next time, this has been Hawks Live. Thank you
Twelves for joining us. It has been a blast. We'll
see you next time.

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