Hawks Live With Jon Rhattigan, Jaxon Smith-Njigba And More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue
Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven
to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
If you're your hosts Michael Bumpis.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
And Paul Moyer, what's up? You're listening to Hot Slide
presented by the Dining District at the Bellvy Collection every
Thursday at seven ride Here on Seattle Sports seven to ten.
We're broadcasting live from the Bellvy Scor Center Court. I'm
Michael Bumpus with my guy Paul Moyer aka Paul moy Yeasy.
How you doing?

Speaker 4 (00:30):
No, I'm not an a Moyer I called.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I said, I'll go moyezy bee weezy. I know. I
mix it up if you if you prefer moye, though,
I would just say moye.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
It's a brand, you know. I don't want to be
messing with the brand. I feel like my company. I
guess I gotta keep it right.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I feel that.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
But big big week coming up here, Big big win
last week.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, big win last week twenty four to twenty your
Seattle Seahawks take down with the second or first at
the time best defense in the league. And they got
it done. Me, there are some things that we wanted
to see last week, right, I know we were sitting
here before the show talking about the red zone. Before
last week, I believe the Hawks were one in eight
scoring touchdowns trips in the red zone. If you want

(01:10):
to be a good football team, you got to be
able to get inside the twenty and get her done.
We talked about Geno a little bit, JSN, who we're
gonna see later. He's gonna come here and visit you
guys and hopefully signed some autographs. He has his second
week in a row with a touchdown. Jake Bobo's doing
this thing. It's like the veterans are holding it down,
but then we're getting these rookies that popping it and
doing their thing too.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, a lot of rookies. I mean offensive line, we
got Bradford, you know. On the defensive side, obviously we
got Witherspoon. And these guys aren't just on the field.
I mean they're they're making plays. They're impactful. I thought
last week was and I'm really excited about this week too,
because I think this week we go on the road
and beat Baltimore. I'm all in. Yeah, as a Super

(01:53):
Bowl contending team, and last week kind of flipped me,
and mainly because that defense that we went up against Cleveland,
they were for real and they were good against run defense.
They were great at putting pressure on the quarterback, and
I thought we handled it. I thought, I don't want
to say we dominated the game, but we won both
sides of the football in that game. So, you know,

(02:15):
a lot of great things. I think Geno's finally starting
to get a little more comfortable and that, hey, we
don't have to force things, you know, it just keeps
spreading it around. The big one obviously going into last
week was we just weren't great in the red zone.
But we did some good things last week also. But yeah,
we got a couple of good we got jsn is
going to be here at seven point thirty. We will
have some good conversation there and what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, and we also got to see Jason Peters right,
he joined that offensive line. The old man in football,
young man in life. Right, forty one years old. They
call you the old man in the locker room, but
in life he's still good to go. So it was
nice to seeing him get out there and how he
impacts this offensive line. There's been a lot of movement
on this offensive line. You mentioned Anthony Bradford. You pointed

(02:59):
out some really good plays that he had against the
Cincinnati Bengals and then against the Cleveland Browns. How important
is this line, man? I mean, it's all about the
big boys in the trenches, right yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
I'm really comfortable with what we have up the middle
right now. I mean you've got Lewis and Evans and
then Bradford and Bradford so strong. He's the rookie out
of LSU for us. And I'm telling you, guys, when
he extends his hands on somebody, he shoves that defensive
lineman three hundred and twenty pound guys and more usually
over two gaps. I think he's going to be a

(03:30):
really good football player. But you know the old At
the end of the day, the real story is what
this defense is doing. It is, man, and it's it's
now the last four games, or since Week four, some
of those things have come out or basically the number
one defense in the NFL, both in yards, yards per attempt,

(03:51):
I believe points allowed. If you actually go into this
game since Week four, Baltimore and Seattle are really one
and two. So this is about and we talked about
last week going into this game, Seahawks had to outplay
Cleveland's defense, and they did. And it's the first time
I felt probably five maybe six years, we've got three

(04:11):
tiers of really good football players in the secondary. I
don't see a weakness. I mean, I just see strengths
and options for you know what, we can call our
linebackers to me, Bobby Wagner's been rejuvenated, whatever that is.
And it might be because of Jordan Brooks is playing
so well. I mean, he is playing at a Pro Bowl,

(04:33):
He's playing at an all pro level. I just hope
he gets the votes. I hope this has become a
popularity contents. He gets rewarded for his play. And the
defensive line and we've added and we'll talk about that too,
our defensive line. What we've done. We've gone from this big, huge,
three hundred and forty fifty pound guys to really quit
guys who are disruptive and now we got pressure on

(04:54):
the edge. This is a really good defense and it
feels that we're just getting started.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the defensive line because
obviously there's a move made this week. You signed Leonard
Williams from the New York Football Giants. I thought it
was a great move. The Giants pick up the bulk
of his contract. They didn't pay a lot for him.
They didn't give up a second round pick and a
fifth round pick if he does not sign with the Seahawks.
I believe they get a third round pick after this year.
And then there was a move made by the forty

(05:23):
nine ers as well. Chase Young goes to the forty
nine ers and I got people hitting me up. I'm
sure they hit you up to the live. Why didn't
you go after Chase Young? I go, well, there are
some things behind the scenes that really affected that. But
I like the deal for the Seahawks because you get
a guy that fits your need right now. And what
does Leonard do. He brings physicality to that interior defensive line.

(05:45):
He's a guy that can take on the double teams.
And it's such a thankless position when you're playing that
one in that three tech you're inside because you're going
to affect the game that to the untrained eye, people
aren't going to see. So when you break down Williams
and your breakdown that Chase Young situation. What do you see?
What can you tell the people?

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Moyer, Yeah, so couple things to this, because I think
we're starting to get out. So first of all, the
Seahawks from a salary cap standpoint, really had no money,
and so why did this trade happen? Well, and why
do we have to give up a second and a
fifth round pick? As he mentioned, there's a compensatory pick
when you lose a free agent, and it depends on

(06:24):
how much playing time and more importantly, how much money
they get as a free agent next year. So let's
just say we lose Leonard Williams next year more than
you get between a third and seventh round pick, So
we'll get someone there. Let's say it's a fifth round pick.
That's kind of what the Giants were saying we would
have gotten even if we didn't trade him this year.

(06:45):
So we said, fine, we'll give that to you. We
don't have any money, and so normally we might have
given up a third or a fourth round pick, but
data said, we will pay the ten eleven million whatever
is left on his contract this year that you guys
can't afford, but you're gonna have to give up a
little bit more. So we gave up a second round pick.
Why did we do that? Because we got Denver's third

(07:07):
round pick that and that would be another thing, is
one is our second round pick's probably gonna be closer
to a third round pick because of the success I
think we're gonna have. We got Denver's third round pick
that we did a late trade last year in the draft,
so kind of we you know, a wash on that.
Now let's talk about Chase Young. Everybody goes, oh, why

(07:29):
wouldn't you get Chase Young? Well, first of all, we
couldn't afford him. You know, for forty nine ers are
going to pay his contract. They gave up a third
I believe. The other thing is, you know, Chase Young's
two hundred and sixty five pounds. He's more of an
edge rusher. We got plenty of edge rushers right now.
Don't get me wrong. I would love to have Chase Syng.
But he's got a bad knee. There's some concerns on that.

(07:49):
We just that wasn't a need. Now it's going to
bring it back.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Now.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Why Leonard Williams, Well, when he's a pro bowler, he
was a very high draft pick. He's under twenty, he's
under thirty's twenty nine years old, and he's got size.
He's sixty four, sixty five, he's almost three hundred pounds,
about two hundred and ninety pounds. Great against the run,
great against the pass, and we needed depth interior more
than we needed on the edge. So for us, home

(08:15):
run pick, and I think more importantly for you as fans,
Seahawks are all in. They believe this is a Super
Bowl contending team. We're gonna find out this weekend and
then really over the next four or five weeks. We've
got the forty nine ers twice, we got Philadelphia, we
got Baltimore, we got a tough stretch, and they all
have great offensive lines. We needed somebody to help solidify that.

(08:36):
And my favorite people over a thirty second Street. Let's
go with my old neighbors.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
All right, got it. We're on radio, so we're here.
We see thirty second Street, but those all no get them?
Hearing the sounds good? So what is all said and done?
The best move for the Seahawks. I couldn't be more
excited about it. I want to see what he does
when he hits the field this weekend, against the to
More Ravens. But we're just getting started. When we return,

(09:02):
we'll talk to linebacker John Radigan. That is next right
here on Hawk's Lot.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Hawkss Live ap presented by the Dining District at the
Bellevue Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air
on Seattle Sports.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Welcome back to Hawk's Sorry, presented by the Dining drisc
got the Bellvy Collection on Michael Bumpus with Paul Mooreyer
every Thursday right here at seven on Seattle Sports seven
to ten. Man, We're Brock has a live from Bellvy
Sports and according now we have John Radigan, linebacker for
the Seahawks, on the line. What's up, John, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Hey, appreciate you taking time out of your schedule. Man.
Always always show some love because you guys got a
lot going on. Right you're five and two. You guys
are making a push. You're flying to the East Coast,
so I know there's a lot of things you could
be doing. But you're here with us, and we appreciate that. Man. Hey,
I want to get right into it.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Man.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm from a military family, right, My dad was in
the Marines. Uncle's covered all of the branches, and Man,
you decided to take a different route. Man, was was
Army always something that you wanted to do or did
Was that the only offer that you have, Like walk
us through your decision to go to the Army institution
and play some ball.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah. So I didn't have as extensive a military family,
but both my grandpas were a huge inspiration to me,
and they both served in the Army way back in
the day. And so when I was going through recruitment
and you know, trying to find what place fit me
best in terms of where to go to college, I
was really intrigued by all the academies, to be honest,

(10:37):
but Army definitely showed the most interest. And when it
came down to it, I really loved my visit out there.
I really loved everything they had to offer, and I
was I was, you know, very committed to the military
life that would come post academy. And so I was
all on board from from being recruited. I mean, I
had some other schools, nothing crazy, no, no really big

(10:59):
offers out there, and I felt like it was a
great opportunity to play solid Division one football, get a
great education, and then you know, have a lot of
military life afterwards.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Really excited to have you on. I got so many
questions for you, John, But first of all, I just
want to congratulate you. Earlier this week, the Seahawks announced
John Radigan as her twenty twenty three Salute to Service
Award nominee. By the way, voting goes through November, So
congratulations on that. Obviously. Yes, we got about eight hundred
people here cheering you on right now. John. But you know, look,

(11:36):
we Mike and I both played obviously in college and
in the NFL. And when I was at Arizona State,
it was like, yeah, take three classes, but mostly be
freed up for practice because we used to change practice times.
But I got to believe it was a cadet there.
You guys had a very different schedule. Would you mind
just sharing what the life was like when you were

(11:58):
going to college and trying to mix all the duties
you had as well as with practice. Just give me
a day in the life of a cadet.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, and I guess to start off, I'll say it
was certainly different than everybody else I'm in the locker
room with now. It was it was academy lights. I
mean you got to wake up, you know, every morning
and get all your stuff done. You got to make
your bed and put on your uniform, look look, have
good appearance every day, and so you would have to

(12:29):
wake up by at least six in the morning in
order to get all that done and get out there
for pormation. That would lead right into breakfast, and from
breakfast you go right to class. So you know football
in the military, they kind of they put all the
football stuff in the afternoon, so we would go to
class in the morning and that would cover everything up
until around one pm. And as soon as everybody was

(12:51):
done with all their academics, we would take a bus
or you could walk if you wanted to walk uphill
to the football facilities and that would be our whole afternoon.
So we were pretty much getting after from I would
say seven in the morning when people might have had
a class starting until two. Academically and from football, we'd

(13:14):
be there from you know, anywhere from two to six,
two to seven sometimes middle of the season, those late
those late nights, those late practices, you don't get back
down to your room until eight pm. So you really
just had a full day of work every single day
and that's the bottom line. There was just a lot

(13:34):
to it. But me and all my friends that I
went to school with and everybody that's still there right
now and came way before me, you know, everybody is
willing to do that, and it's a truly incredible experience.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, John, it sounds like being in that institution really
helped mold who you are.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I don't know where I would be with a football
tell me discipline, how to be on time, how to prepare,
But I felt like, thank you guys, your preparation was
at a different level. What it being in that environment
do for you as a football player and as a man.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I think it really helped me grow up, maybe four
years earlier than I normally would have. I always kind
of thought about things from that perspective. While I was
at West Point. It was you had to get ready
in the morning, you had to look presentable, You had
to just kind of do everything that most people working
a nine to five job are doing. But on top
of that, you know, we were still playing division on

(14:29):
football and so just kind of juggling everything and include
the rigorous academics. It was really just being able to
juggle everything, being able to learn time management and as
the years went on, get better at that and ultimately
maturing yourself to being able to understand how you go

(14:50):
about all that right. It might, it might not. You
might have a good day and think, oh, I'm not
going to be able to do this another week. But
it's getting over that and just proving yourself constantly that
you are getting better, you're growing and this is only
making you a stronger person that ultimately gets you through.
So I would say, you know time management and just

(15:12):
it really it really kind of makes you mature as
fast as you possibly can, because that's the only way
you start to feel comfortable and realizing that you're growing
as you get older.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
At the academy, there was a time if you were
you know, Army, Navy, Air Force, and you were playing
college sports, you know, you really didn't have an opportunity
to go to professional sports. But that changed. I don't
know that much about it. I don't think the people
here and the listeners probably know that much. But what
was the process you needed to go through to obtain
special approver approval to defer the service and pursue this

(15:46):
NFL dream of yours.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
So I had to meet with some Army lawyers and
go over a lot of different paperwork, but ultimately and
the Secretary of a friends he will approve packet every
year that allows us to stay playing professional sports. And
it had gone back and forth for the longest time,
and it still kind of is. You know, I came

(16:10):
out at a favorable time for athletes to where like
I said, they will still annually review a packet up
for us, and uh, you know, accept accept the fact
that we're playing in professional sports and we're representing from
that end. And that's kind of how the policy was

(16:30):
when I was coming out. I believe they're going back
to changing it a different way, and so it's kind
of back and forth like it always has been. But
as long as we get the approval from the Secretary
of Defense and we you know, hold up our end
of the bargain, we represent as best we can. We
you know, provide for the military community and the communities

(16:50):
that our teams represent. That's really that's that's the most
they could ask for.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Do you have additional commitments in the future.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I still have five years of service post playing career,
so whether that comes as it would post graduation. Where
I branch the branch that I had my last year
at the academy, or I have to transition to a
different type of role because of like physical limitations depending

(17:21):
on the timeframe, I do still have five years of service.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
How do you feel about that? And again, I don't
know what that means. I mean, you probably don't know
what that means. Hopefully you have a ten year career
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Right, I think that's the cool part, honestly, is that
it gives us the flexibility to fully focus and just
be one hundred percent committed to football or soccer, hockey,
whatever sport you know that we played and excelled in
at the academies. It let us kind of make the
most of our careers. And I feel good because once
it's over with, I'll be able to serve for five years.

(17:57):
I'll have a job for five years. I'll be able
to get it back for five years. And ultimately that's
why school was free for me in college. Right when
everybody that goes to the academy is that's their that's
their payment is five years of service. So it only
it feels right to be honest that I still would
have to hold up my end of the Bargain Johnson.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Now you're you're in the NFL. And I would assume
when you went to Army you planned on serving your
country after you were done playing ball over there, but
then you become a All American your senior year. Was
that when you realize, like, hey, man, I might want
to try this NFL thing, or was that always something
that you wanted to do and you're hoping and play

(18:38):
good enough to get that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
It really came about during my senior year. I had always,
since since being a little kid, you know, if I'm
playing football, if I'm still in the prime of my
football career, I want to play in the NFL. And
so I never let that leave the back of my mind.
But I was so focused on other things at the academy.
I was really just kind of more focused on developing

(19:03):
as a person, and thankfully that paid off, and by
the time I got to my senior year, things were
really you know, going well, from from academics to the
military side of things to certainly my football career. And
so I was able to just take advantage of the
fact that that football had really turned out to be

(19:24):
favor a favorable thing for me. There because you know,
when I was younger, I did struggle in football. I
didn't have some crazy All American career for four years there.
It really only came about my senior year. And then
during the course of my senior year, I had scouts
reaching out and that was when I realized that the
NFL was a legit possibility, and so I kind of

(19:48):
transitioned my mind to really focus on that and be
committed to kind of using this platform that I have.
Because now three years later, I couldn't be any more
grateful and and it's certainly been a wild ride, but
I'm very thankful.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well, we're pretty thankful and blessed you're here as well. Okay,
we do something every year, we talk about the greatest
rivalries in sports, and then it's all over the board.
It's like Boston and the Lakers. Some you know, the
college guys, it's Alabama and Auburn. For those who it's
the University of Washington and Oregon, which I don't really
get that one, but I've argued it's not even close.

(20:24):
It's Army Navy because it does not matter. It's the
only rivalry. It truly doesn't matter. The records. People are
watching that, can you at all describe or just give
us what that week's like and what that rivalry is
all about.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, for Army, we had we always had two weeks
going into it, so they're big weeks at the Academy.
There's a lot of hype around it, you know, there's
a lot of pride that just kind of it's not
just the football team, that's everybody involved. It's a huge rivalry.
So along with that comes all the fun and the

(21:02):
festive type of things that schools can get into. And
so it means a lot. It means a lot to
the football team because we have something to prove and
we want to have bragging rights and we want to
be you know, we're competitive, so we want to win.
And it means a lot to the whole school because
everybody's going to be there and ultimately everybody wants to
brag rights and everybody wants to see their their team

(21:25):
that they support win. But the coolest part is that
at the end of the day, whoever wins, whoever loses,
we're all We're all in this together. We're all going
through a very similar life, we're all going through a
very similar schedule, We're all fighting through these tough engineering
classes that we didn't know we had to take, but
we ended up having to take. So it's just it's

(21:47):
just really cool because, to be honest, it's a big
rivalry and it definitely has that feel to it. We're
against one another, but ultimately we know that we're all
together and it's just a cool representation of the military.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well, John, Man, we appreciate your time on this Thursday,
and we appreciate your intentions going into Army and the
potential of what you have to do after you're done
playing this game. We're sitting here talking football and guys
like you make this possible. Man, So we appreciate you
and we'll talk to you soon. Good luck in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Sounds good. Thank you so much. I appreciate you, guys.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
I'm mnna say go Army beat Navy.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Thanks John, Right, that's right, going Army.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
All right, that's John Radigan when we were returnable. Go
all around the NFL. What's going down to the end
of the league. That is next right here on Hawk's Lot.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue
Collection at Bellevue Square Center Course live on air on
Seattle Sports.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
We are back. This is Hawks Live, presented by the
Dining District at the Bellvy Collection for here every Thursday.
I see some regulars out here Moreyer. They come and
support us every single week. If not a regular, it's
all good. We're glad you're here. Now. Man, I'm Michael
bum with my guy Paul Moyer. It's time to go
around the NFL. Now, we got to start in the bay.

(23:06):
It's going down in the bay right now. Man, you
got brock Party in the gang losing three in a row.
I was waiting for this moment for brock Purty because
everything was nice. You got the best defense in the league,
Deebo Samuel's ball and Christian McCaffrey seventeen games in a
row with a touchdown, Brandon Auk, who's the best receiver
on that team. But you got Deebo Samuel, who's a

(23:26):
great athlete. And then they hit a bump in a row,
and then I'm looking at brock Perty I'm saying, all right,
mister irrelevant, this is something you have not experienced before
on this level. How are you going to bounce back now?
I'm not ready to say brock Purty's done. He can't
play in this league. But it makes me interested because
we're in first place in MC West right now, thankful
for thankfully because we have the forty nine ers drop

(23:47):
three in a row. When you look at the Niners
right now, how close are we have we passed them up?
I know we're first in the West, but you know
how this game is matchups, personnel, All that stuff matters.
Is what are your thoughts in the forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Well, it's been good. I mean when they were five
and zero, we went, uh oh, you know this is
and Purty. I like Purty as a person. I think
he is an incredible human being. He's a guy you
want to root for, even though he's a forty nine er,
which is hard for me to root for, but you
do root for good people. But there's always a weakness
we see in his game. And when you've had a

(24:21):
full year, almost a year of film, people see you
in the offseason, and now that we start a new season,
they're going to force you to adjust to your weaknesses.
And his weakness is he just doesn't have a really
strong arm. He's off. He's got to be on timing.
And so now people are which I always say, with
forty nine ers protect the middle of the field, force

(24:44):
them to throw outside the numbers, and he's starting to
try to get the ball over linebackers heads. He's starting
to create some turnovers. I think he's still capable. And
when they get Samuel back, and now they got Chase Young,
they're formidable. They got a great defense. But things come
back to the pack to you really quick, and people

(25:05):
start to find your weaknesses, and if you don't make
those adjustments, you go on a three game losing streak
like they have, not kicking them out. I don't think
they're going to be a playoff team. It's going to
be a battle when we play them over the next
twice over the next six weeks, I think. But I
like our chances now. I think we match up defensively
really well. I think when we eventually get Abe Lucas

(25:27):
back at right tackle, hopefully we've got a complete line
as well. And then we've got five receivers now that
de Eskridge is back, we're gonna have JSN here in
a bit too. I mean we got tight ends. We
just we're loaded across the board, so there's no excuses.
We've closed the gap and Actually, we've more than closed
the gap. We were five and two and they're five

(25:47):
and three.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, you've been saying that since the Jimmy Garoppolo days.
Make them throw outside the numbers. And I watched the
interceptions that brock Party has. Guess what it is, digs
across the middle. They're dropping that Mike linebacker and clouting
that space for him. I think teams are starting to
figure that out. Something interesting happened the other day. The
raid is loss on a Monday night, and with the

(26:10):
next day, Josh McDaniels is out of there, the second
time he's been fired as a head coach over there
in the second year of that contract. It's so hard
to keep a job in NFL.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Man.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, but you get a head coach. If you get
a head coach, kick, I mean fire me. I'm good,
guarantee money. Look for me at my age. I'm gonna
go work on my golf game. But it's not the coaches, man,
it's the organization. Since two thousand, they have had thirteen
head coaches and actually I think it's fourteen if I
retread Gruden twice. The Seahawks have had two and a

(26:43):
half since two thousand and I say two and a half,
we had Mike Holmgren, and then for the one year
we had Mora, which was kind of forced on the
Seahawks from the previous general manager. He gets one year
and we bring in Pete Carroll. I mean, that's stability,
good organization. The Raders just a bad organization. And he

(27:03):
got Mark Davis, who anybody who has Sorry if anybody's
got a bowl cut like that, I apologize, but come on, man,
I mean, just that alone just shows that he doesn't
make good decisions. His dad was brilliant. He was I mean,
Al Davis, you know, whatever you want to think about him.
He was an innovator. He was well ahead of his game.
They won a lot of Super Bowls. You get older,

(27:26):
things may pass you by a little bit or older.
I don't want to say old because I'm that age
his son. It happens a lot in business. You know,
when the kids take over the business, about eighty percent
of them have been driving it into the ground. Mark Davis,
to me, has done that.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
All right, We got about a minute here, Moyer. The
Philadelphia Eagles take on the Dallas Cowboys, a game that
we need to watch. Go down the Cowboys are five
and two, fourth in the NFC, Philadelphia Eagles seven to one,
number one in the NFC. What's this game gonna come
down to?

Speaker 4 (27:57):
I'm kind of torn on this game. I was gonna
ask you one who you who you hope and wins?

Speaker 3 (28:03):
You want the Dallas Cowboys to win. I'm torn because
that puts Philly seven.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
And we play Philly so we can take care of business, right,
we control our own destiny. The reason why I kind
of want Philly to whoop up on them. I just
don't want the Cowboys to be a problem for us.
You know where they all said and what they're they're
battling and they're they're super skilled. I think we match
up well against Philadelphia. That is going to be a battle,

(28:27):
and I don't know six weeks, five weeks whenever that is. So, look,
they're all out in front of us. We got the
forty nine ers twice, and we got Philly coming here.
We got the Cowboys we're gonna go to And here's
the great thing. When we go to play the Cowboys,
we're wearing our throwback jerseys again. And right now I
know we're undefeated this year in our throwback Jersey, So

(28:47):
I'll be at that game, just letting you know I
will not be here, but I'm going to do a
couple of segments so I can get paid for doing
the pre postgame half time.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Leave me by myself. Huh onete, old boyer, No one
likeppiate you man, all right? When we return, man, we'll
hear from the young guy making noise kind of touchdown
in those throwback jerseys. Jackson Smith and Jigba will be
here next on Hawk's lot.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
There we go, Hawks Live presented by the Dining District
of the Bellevue Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live
on air on Seattle Sports.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Welcome back to Hawks Live of Michael Bambas with Paul Moyer.
We are awaiting the arrival of JSM. You know he
ain't from here, so you know I prob made a
wrong turn somewhere looking for that valet. You know, head boy,
you know all about the valet. Ig Nor you pull
it up in salsa keys and and hop out you.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
With yeah, yeah I do that. No, I had the
same parking spot I always go to, so no one
hits my car, which they'll they'll do often, And yeah,
I'm excited. To get JS in here. You know, he's
a Dallas kid or just outside of Dallas in Rockwell,
rock Walk, excuse me, three thousand students and you were

(30:02):
saying you think Lake Stevens.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Close to four thousand.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'm gonna have to look at it.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Look at it.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
I'm just not sure that. I don't want to say
you're wrong.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I might be wrong close to it.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
But I didn't know we had a school that big.
And then you know in the state of Washington.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
But you know north in the country, man, you know,
they do a different up there.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
I do.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I do.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Allen. They actually will bring this up to Allan High School,
which is in Texas, a powerhouse there. They got like
five close to five thousand students. And I was just
reading that one of the fastest growing places, particularly in
Texas is it's kind of that north part of Texas
outside of Dallas and kind of the Frisco area. Rock

(30:46):
Wall they were talking about they just did a bond
or they they're building a new high school stadium. It's
one hundred and fifty million dollars. I don't know how big.
It's probably twenty thousand seats made, maybe thirty, but they
that's what they get there, and they have no problem
getting those bonds passed through because high school football there,

(31:07):
it's not even high school football, it's high school. It's school.
If you go and look at those schools that the
ones that are building right now, they look like colleges.
They are so nice. So they don't mess around in
Texas for education.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
It's a different culture down down in the big state
of Texas.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Man.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
But let's talk about what we've seeing out of this
young man so far. You know, it's been a progression.
I know, when you're the twentieth pick, you are joining
a receiver corps that already has some established guys. People
were still expecting him to hit the ground and have
one hundred this game, one hundred and fifty that game.
You got to realize, man, you got DK, you gotta locket,

(31:47):
you got a tight end room. That's good to go.
And there's an adjustment period that happens in the NFL.
And I think we're starting to see him really kind
of understand what his role is, and I think Shane
Walton is finally understanding how to get him the football.
His very first touchdown, it was a simple post route.
I call it a sailor combination. He's on the outside,
Tyler Locket on the inside. Tyler has the corner, he

(32:08):
has the post, the safety rolls with the pose, the
corner cornerback stays with the corner, and he's wide open.
Gino puts the ball on him and I could imagine
just the relief that was off of him, like, Okay,
I'm Indian Zone. I know how to get it done.
And then the following week the game winning touchdown. I
like where he's headed right now.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Well, I think he's healthy. Remember he had a bit
of the hamstring thing his senior year, and I think
he wasn't that healthy even through preseason, right yep. So
now he's healthy. He looks not that he was never
fast or quick, but he looks quick. He looks like
the twentieth pick in the draft, and they're starting to
try and to feature him. There was one play was

(32:47):
Cincinnati gain where they created this play form man. He
was wide opening. Again, something flashed in front of Gino.
Gino didn't see him, and now they're creating opportunities for him.
Before early on it was bubble screens, quick screens. Let's
just get in the ball maybe and see if we
can get some space, but they're all short routes. Now
they're starting to develop some routes, and it's critical because

(33:09):
of the way they're playing DK, the way they play Tyler.
We got a lot of receivers. You got Jake Bobo,
you know, got d S. Gridge, you know JSN. So
the weapons are there. That the tough part, obviously for Gino,
is how do I spread this thing around to everybody
and make them all happy. I want to ask JSN.
I go, you know what's that like in the receiver room?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Man?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
You got four targets?

Speaker 3 (33:32):
He got nine.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
You're all mad at each other.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
DK have fourteen of them things, uh last week. So
I think he's good. But he's still third on the
team in targets, which is crazy because they're Because you
mentioned all those names, it seems like it's spread out
so evenly, which it is, right. You got your two
at the top, you got JSN, and then I believe
Noah fen or Kobe Parkinson our third and fourth, and

(33:57):
you're throwing will of dis league. That's a good problem
to have, man, It's that you have so many weapons.
You're trying to get them football and trying to create
ways to get them the football. If I'm Shane Walden
at night, I'm sitting down and I'm looking at film
and I'm saying, all right, I have the big down
the field type of guy. I have the reliable back
of the end zone type of dude in Tyler Lockett,

(34:18):
and then you have this js N kid who you're
trying to really figure out what he can do on
this level. It has to be fun trying to game
plan for those type of guys.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah, I think they know what he can do, and
I you're seeing more and more things created just for him. Yeah,
I there's so many weapons. We didn't even talk about
the running backs too. I mean we didn't, you know,
screen game, and I'd like to get you know, Canine
out in the open field. And then Charbona starting to
really come on as well. So yeah, you know, and look,

(34:49):
j San has also been I don't know what you
call it, wide receiver. You I meant, at this point,
who's their stud The guy who's talking.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
About Marvin Harrison coming out Mecca Is will be the
next one out out of it, out of there.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
You know, there's been a few good high school kids
that have you know, from here in the state of
Washington went there can't play again any playing time. Right,
you know that's how how deep that is. And so
he gets what it's like to battle for targets. I
ask you, what is that like? I mean, you know
on the defense side, you know, I'm I go create
my own targets. You guys gotta wait for the ball

(35:29):
to come to you.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Well, I think you because when I played, I had
Jason Hill, who at the time held a lot of
records in the pack ten at the time, uh for
touchdowns and yards, right, and then Brandon Gibson who played
the NFL as well. I think you just understand the
situation and when you're when it's your time to shine.
You know, for me it was third downs. Third downs
they knew, send me across the middle, I got you,

(35:52):
get you down the field, we get into the red zone,
I go, all right, I've done my job. You're gonna
go outside up top to the other guys. So I
think once you you settle down and you understand just
when is your time to shine, you take advantage of
those opportunities. Because if you throw the ball thirty five
forty times a game, I mean you're gonna get five, six,
seven targets, so I think, and then you look at

(36:13):
you look at the room, and you realize who you're
dealing with, and you know that if the guy outside
of me or the guy on the other side is
playing good football, they're gonna game plan to stop him.
That opens everybody else up.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
So on offense, is every play when they call play.
I can't believe I don't know this, But when they
call play, are you the target or does the defense
dictate the target? So going into a game, do you
have an idea? Probably if we throw at thirty, I'm
gonna be targeted eight times. But on every call is

(36:47):
DK is it? You know? Spread right? Whatever? DK? On one?

Speaker 3 (36:53):
You know it's you get the game plan and you
look at what the defense is trying to do. And
there are certain players where you know, I'm gonna get
this football if they come out in the defense that
we think they're gonna come out in. And then you
get to the line of screamers. You're looking at the
defense you say, Okay, this is my job. Like I'll
never forget. We used to run this play four x

(37:14):
all it is ten yard dig boom and I'm running
the scene. They call that play and literally in the huddle,
I look at my guy, go I got you, because
I know the only way I'm getting this football is
if they blitz us or if that safety hops down,
and look they're in quarters. They're not gonna hop down
on this. So my job is a whole that safety,
so my guy underneath can get the football. Yeah. Yeah,
you got to be unselfish, right, But I think there

(37:35):
are certain players that are designated for you. I knew
when we ran bubble screens and uh, these these hunt
rounds in the middlefield. That's what I'm here to do.
But then you look at the defense and they might
change some things in game plans some stuff. So now
you know, if you're a smart football player, you kind
of figure that out. But if you are one of
those guys who just runs the route that's on the paper,
you might get a little frustrated because you're not knowing.

(37:56):
If you don't know what you're looking at on the
back end, what's it like in the on the defensive side,
you guys get into the film room and say, all right,
we got to eliminate this guy. Let everyone else do
their thing, Let's get rid of this guy.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, sometimes it's we gotta take that guy away, or
we say, hey, we're gonna take everybody else away, and
we'll we'll, we'll, we'll defend that. But a lot of
times it's just form. It's usually it's more formation driven.
I used to have a thing called we call it
an audible defense, and my audible would be, wherever that
guy is, we're rolling to that guy, and didn't matter

(38:31):
if he motioned across, We're rolling that No matter what,
we are going to take him away. But that was
really rare because in today's we are you gonna take
DK away? We're gonna take DK away. Well, Jay San's
gonna kill you, Tyler Lockett's gonna kill you. I mean,
there's there's a lot of other guys that can kill you.
So I learned a little bit, man, This is good.
I learned a little bit watching you by. This guy

(38:53):
is a great coach coaching. He's offensive coordinator for Roosevelt
High School. Went to his game this past Tuesday playoff game.
Bo can this week?

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Right can?

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah, you do a great job. Really was impressed. Well, break,
you don't even know what to say.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
No, I just got you know, Matt Nelson in the
back telling me to break. He was just in my ear.
I know, I was just let you finish your comment before,
because no, unless you finish you know. All right? Hey,
when we return, hopefully the young man JS and will
be next right here on Hawks Live.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue
Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven
to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports Now. If
you're your host, Michael Bumpis and Paul Moyer.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Welcome back to Hawks Live. We are here every Thursday
seven o'clock on Seattle Sport seven ten of Michael Bompas
with Paul Moller and now we are joined by the
man himself, Jackson Smith and Jig with Jackson. How you
doing man?

Speaker 4 (39:55):
I'm gonna blame that on our producer here. Sorry, now
you're how you doing that?

Speaker 6 (40:01):
I'm doing great. Great to see everybody. Great to be here.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yes, yes, thanks for coming out. Man Ay there's a
lot to talk about, right Ohio State. Everyone remembers that
Rose Bolt game. Obviously what you've done the last couple
of weeks. But you know, we do prep before the show.
Are producing NASA hits us with a whole bunch of
facts about you. I didn't know you was tearing it
up like that in high school. Man, it's ridiculous. What
eighty two touchdowns and forty four games? Man in the

(40:27):
state of Texas. Now, I'm from California, so you know,
we like to claim we got ballers. You know, Texas
got balls. Florida got ballers too. So I showed some love. Man,
When did you realize? I know it was probably always
aspirations for you to go to college and play in
the league. But was there a moment in high school
where you're just like, yeah, I'm that guy and we're
gonna make this happen.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Yeah, I would say my junior year. I would say
that's when it clicked to where like, Okay, I could
be a professional after the sport and luckily, lucky lucky
me here I.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Am, well, I'm looking at the senior year. We so JSN,
let me before I go on this. You're now JSN,
How weird is that? I mean, look, there are people
like Tiger, there's DK, there's a few people that's just
a single name. Somehow it's transformed to JSN. How do
you feel about that?

Speaker 6 (41:17):
I feel good, I feel like, it's a lot easier
to pronounce in jig ball all the time. So I
don't mind it at all. I heard the name in college,
and you know, it's just been sticking with it ever since.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
You and I were chatting with. My kids are in
Dallas and he's from Rockwell. Rock Wall, excuse me, Texas
was just outside of Dallas, a little kind of northeast.
I guess right, I'm looking. They just had a new
bond that came out. They're building a one hundred and
fifty million dollars high school football stadium, wow, which again

(41:50):
is crazy. Now Rockwall, you had about three thousand students
just talk about high school football there. R We bring
it up a bunch because we had a few guys
who were in Houston and they we got the best
football in Florida. But you know, Dallas, Allen, you guys
just talk about that moment.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
I may be biased. I know you're from calic but
in Texas, I just feel like it's second to none.
You know, the city, the support, you know, football's a
religion out there, and I was blessed to grow up
to where, you know, people cared about football and you know,
the stands were packed, and you know, I just Friday
Night Lights. You know, it's a real thing. But just

(42:27):
growing up with your friends and and and going to
high school and playing together, going down you know, the
road of State. You know, there's nothing like it. It's
it's I wouldn't say it's like the movie Friday Night Lights,
but it's it's close for sure.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
No, I feel it. The culture is different in Texas.
They believe in football. You know. Out here in California, man,
you gotta pass some levies and some bonds and stuff
out there, they just do it. I love hearing about
how guys became the person they are. Me I grew up,
I didn't have a brother or a sister, so I
just through my boys on the black But you have
a brother. It was a professional baseball player, man, I

(43:04):
would have I would imagine there was some battles going
on in the field, on the court, on the diamond,
Like what was that like? And how did he help
you in your development? He's actually in attendance today.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
A future Mariner. I love it.

Speaker 6 (43:21):
Yeah, I know, just growing up we were competitive. You know,
like you said, he plays baseball, you know, at the
highest level, and you know, it was tough.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
It was tough. He beat me a lot.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
I'm starting to catch back up with the wins now,
kind of making it even. But you know, it was hard.
But I wouldn't be the person I am, or the
athlete or whatever, you know, without my big bro leading
away and showing me, you know how to get it done.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
So he takes the baseball route, you take the football route.
I'm guessing he looks like he's a football player too. Yeah,
so he definitely played. Did you play baseball? I did?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Just talk about who was better at what?

Speaker 6 (43:58):
He would definitely say he was better at football.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
He played.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
He played football longer than I played baseball. So I
give it to him.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
You definitely got that bill. He looked like he hurt somebody.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Now you you end up going to UH the Ohio
State University wide receiver, you man, I mean you got Wilson,
you got a lave you're out there, you got Marvin Harrison,
you got Mecca, who's a local kid from this area.
Why did you choose that program? And what is it
about that program that developed such good receivers?

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Yeah, I'm what stood out was the development and UH
coach Meck starting with him our strength coach, one the
most known strength coaches in all of the country. You know,
I knew that he would, you know, if I stayed
the course and listen to coaches like coach Brian Hartline,
being in the room with guys like Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson,

(44:49):
all the guys that you mentioned that, you know, I would,
you know, be sitting here, you know, hopefully going first
round like I did, you know, just being able to
go down that road.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I think.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
I seen it, you know, I seen it how it
unfolded for others. Just staying a course as what I'm
trying to say. And and I knew that, you know,
being in that position, I could do the same.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
You're wearing a sweater or it's got some burnt orange
on there though, Yeah, what were you were? You were
you a Texas fan? I mean, I know in Dallas,
I'm not sure which direction that goes.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Growing up, when I was small, I was an A
and M fan. My dad was an A and M fan.
And then around middle school I went to the Texas
OU football game like every single year. I thought I
was going to go to those colleges, either Texas or OU,
but didn't Ohio State was my first big offer my
junior year. And you know, once I didn't have Texas

(45:45):
OU and all those guys from home in Ohio stayed
off for me. I was like, forget it, We're just
gonna go go be a buck guy.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Man.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I want to ask you some ex's and o's. Man.
We broke down your very first touchdown. You're at the
number one receiver. Tyler Locke is in the slot, you
got the post, he has the corner. Booter Baker is
at the safety. He ends up going with the corner
and then you're wide open when you lined up, then
you heard that play. Is that what you anticipated? Was
it a bus by the safety? Like walk us through

(46:12):
that whole scenario.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Yeah, so we had a crossing concept and yeah, I
was hoping for cover four to where you know they
have their quarters and Booter Baker, you know, he usually
doesn't make that mistake. A great football player, obviously, but
you gotta respect Tyler Lockett when he's running full speed
at you and makes a cut. So he respected Tyler
Lockett took the corner and GINO see me coming down

(46:35):
the middle wide open.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
And that wasn't an easy cash. Neither was kind of
behind you. Has to put the brakes on a little bit.
I know, people like, oh, it's wide open, gray through
good good throw, Geno got you. But I appreciate that
about you because that's easily the average dude might have
just dropped that and it tricked off the bag for
the very first touchdown for sure.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Well, they're definitely starting to create things for it. Matter
of fact, the winning touchdown last week and one thing
that jumped out of us, I go, oh, he's healthy.
I mean the quickness that you had, and early on
it looked like they were just trying to get you
the ball, you know, whether that was bubble screens, quick screens,
just you know, let's just get them touches. Have the
plays expanded over the last few weeks for.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
You, Yes, sir, I feel like you see that you
know on the field, and you know, I'm just excited
to continue to take on bigger roles. You know, had
a little injury, a little shake up in the beginning
of the season, but return you know, quickly to play.
But I'm starting to definitely feel like I'm getting my
groove and just trying to learn and grow a week

(47:37):
by week.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
When they set you down and talked about how they're
going to use you with this team in the preseason.
I go, man, let me see my guy cash them
with some pump returns. They put you back there. Something
told me. They told you to fair catch it. They
just want you to get possession there. It was pump
return something you wanted to do. I doubt they put
you back there now. Obviously the twentieth picks, whoever met you,
it makes sure you good. But is that something you

(48:00):
wanted to do. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
I felt like any time I can get the ball
in my hands, that's good for you know, my team.
So you know, I definitely would go back there. Like
I said, the injury in the beginning of the season,
but you know, you might see me back there here
in a few weeks.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
I love that. Look, you guys are talented. You're talented
at Ohio State. Obviously in the receiver group, you're talented here.
I mean there's obviously DK Tyler I mean throwing d you,
I mean Bobo doing some stuff. And I was talking
with Bump Bump played and it was a wide receiver.
I was a dB, right, So we didn't we didn't
complain about touches or opportunities? What is that like? And

(48:36):
you know, again you're it's a crowded wide receiver room
and you can't give everybody ten touches. But just how's
that dynamic work?

Speaker 3 (48:44):
You know?

Speaker 6 (48:45):
I feel like Coach Pete Carroll in the front office,
they get guys who want to win, you know, first
and foremost, and you know I can sense that on
everybody in the receiver room. You know, yeah, yeah, it
feels definitely feels good to go for one hundred yards
and catch street three tds. But I feel like we
have guys in our receiver room who just want to
win and you know, know, you know, just take what's

(49:08):
given to them, you know, a week by week because
you don't know what's going to happen, if it's going
to be your day or not. But I just feel
like in the receiver room, we approached the game the
right way. You know, Tyler Lockett, especially him leading, you know,
him leading us.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
What was that that final drive like last week? Right,
you guys get the football, you got a chance to
win the ball game. You're driving down and then you
get inside with the fifteen yard line and you hear
your number being called man walk us through the intensity
in the huddle during that moment, and then what that
moment was like when you heard the play call, you
line up, you see you getting pressed off the edge.
You got the safety over the top. If DK takes

(49:47):
care of that that corner, you're good to go. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
I mean, first I would just say, you know, once
we got the interception and we're going back on the field,
I felt, you know, very comfortable. I felt, you know,
everybody in the huddle felt, you know, comfortable that we're
going to go down there and score. You know, I
think that was Gino brings that presence, you know, hey,
we're about to go down there and win the game.
And we believed it made a good place. You know,

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being in the NFL, a lot of games are won
in the four minutes two minutes, So this is something
we practiced a lot, a lot, and I feel like
that's what prepared us to go out there and do
what we do. Hear my name called, you know, every
every play you know, r PO that has me involved
or whatever. You know, I'm always thinking, hey I could
get this.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
What I'm gonna do?

Speaker 6 (50:32):
And you know it was my time to get the
ball and DK made a great block and you know
we won the game.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Hell just long enough because you know we beholding as
we just enough let them go.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
You're always holding, you know that, all right? With enough
football stuff. You're you know here, you are, you grow
up in Texas, you go to Ohio State. Now you're northwest,
your brothers here. You know, just talk about a little
bit one how you like in the Northwest. Yeah, what
do you like to do in your free time? And
you know, just maybe even a little bit about your family.
I know it's kind of three questions, but you can

(51:03):
take it anywhere you want. Just give them a little
bit about you.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
Yeah, I mean, Washington's been been beautiful. I mean, like
I said, the weather has been unbelievable. I got here
in April, spent a lot of time in the summers,
spent a lot a lot of time on the golf
course there you go on Lake Washington again, the whole
phil uh, for the for the city, and it's it's
been unbelievable. I'm definitely super excited. You know that I'm

(51:28):
here as a Seahawks. Couldn't see myself anywhere else for real.
And yeah, I mean going to Texas, going to Ohio,
going to Seattle for like I've seen everything now, but
it's been amazing.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
All right, Jackson Smith and Jiggle, we appreciate you taking
time out of your Thursday get m one more time
for my man, lots more to do. What do we
returned right here on Hawk's Line.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
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Speaker 3 (52:03):
Welcome back to Hawks Live of Michael Bomas with Paul
Layer here every Thursday at the Diny. This is presented
by the Diny Dish. You got the Bellevue Square Center Court. Man. Hey,
so it's time for us to go inside the film
when we love breaking plays down and now. The first
play was a fun play because they got their throwback
jerseys on and they get into inside the five yard

(52:26):
line and we're thinking, come on, you gotta finish. Right
before this game, the Hawks were one for eight in
the red zone and they put Jake Bubbo in motion
and some greatness happens here. Cutting number one.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Single setback deep behind Gino who goes under center.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Bobo goes in motion, Bobo gets a handoff, he stopped.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Cuts back inside Pison touchdown Saint Hawks.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
You know what, more, Bobo, you got it.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
He's been doing that so far in this season, coming
in motion and being the lead block That time he
got the handoff, stops, cuts back inside from three yards out,
dives into the end zone.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
The Seahawks are on the board six nothing.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Go for it, all right.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
So on offense, once you get down there, you see
number nineteen in the game, you're thinking two things, Right,
They're gonna go up top to him, or they're gonna
use him as a blocker, which they've done plenty of
times out here. So what they do is they put
Jake Bobo in motion. Geno's under center. They start him
from the left, move him to the right, and the
left side of the line shows zone left blocking right

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because typically Bubbo's emotion and he ends up blocking the
backside d n So the left side of the lines goes, look,
we're gonna make it look like ken Walker's getting the football.
You look at the right side now they're looking stretch right.
They're showing that jet sweet blook. So Jake Bubbo gets
the football and the line parks like the Red Sea.
Now I think it was designed for him to get outside.
But he becomes a football player. He six is foot

(53:56):
in the ground and says, you know what, their space
right here, I'm gonna get south instead of getting outside
and score an easier touchdown. It would he would have
to work a little bit. If he were to get outside,
he probably could have done it. But this, to me
is a great example of Shane Waldron holding on to
a play for a while and saying, Okay, now's the time,
week eight, let's go ahead in and put it to work.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Yeah, And as Stevid mentioned in you, we've been running
that play and they were expecting something. Their defensive tackle
ran right up field and he ran right by him.
It's like he has the ball. But he probably thought, again,
there's gonna be some form of trap or something on
this thing. But you're right. I thought Shane called a
really good game. He did a lot of cool things,

(54:38):
you know, early in the game, obviously late in the game,
but this is also just Bobo making a play. And
you know, he'll never be timed again into forty the
rest of his life, it does not matter. But he's
got just a feel for the game and some athletic
ability that you know, he stopped, made a cut. He's big.
He scores a touch and we got not three touchdowns,

(54:58):
least end zone one too. No, no, that was that
was just that was the runner. He's got two receiving ones. Yeah,
and remember we had a coach and the very first
one is when Tyler Locker went and got in the football.
That was more in the back of the end zone.
His first one. Three touchdowns from an undrafted free agent.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Come on, man, take it.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Yeah, that's good stuff, all right.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
This next play, Julian Love picks off pz A Walker
after a heads up played by Jamias third down and three.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Walker from the shotgun slots to both sides.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Ford in the backfield. Walker's gonna throw fall tipped up
in the air, balls in a sipped it by Love.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Love gets it just inside the forty five yard line.
The Seahawks defense duns it again. They do what they
have to do. They tipped the ball up. Jamo with
the tip, Love with a pick. The Seahawks now in
great field position and we have reached the two minute morning,
one fifty seven to play in the game. Seattle with

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the ball back the trail By.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
It's just it's just a huge play. I mean, you know,
nothing magical here. We decided to bring Jamal Adams, so
we sent five guys after the quarterback. Jamal actually came
underneath the tackle guard was a little late and sliding.
Now they actually had numbers to pick this up, but Jamal,

(56:22):
being heads up, jumped high. And I don't know if
I've ever actually seen a play like that before where
a quarterback drills them right in the helmet. And boy,
we needed it because there was right on two minutes
left in the game. Yeah, maybe three, I can't remember
the exact time, but we needed a turner. We needed
a big play at that moment, and we got it.

(56:43):
And I think Julian Love has been is playing as
well as anybody we have on our team right now.
We are so deep, we do not have a weakness
on defense right now, and we can play so many
different combinations. So heads up on Jamal Adams, but a
nice played by Julian Love as well.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Yeah, I got a question for you, Like people look
at this play and think, oh, that's the easy interception
by Julian Love. I look at this and I go,
that reminds me of a receiver being wide open running
down the field. And that football is is hanging in
the air, and it seems like it's happening for a
long time. And what is it like for Julian Love?
And then it's different too, because not fun guys. He's

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in the middle. It's not like he's he's twenty yards
behind the deepest guy. He's right in the mix. I
gotta go up there and make a play.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Well. And on top of that, I can't who's running
there as well. It might be Jordan Brooks. I can't
remember it. So Jordan's looking for the ball too, and
they could have ran into each other. But the ball
is not a spiral too.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
You.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
I always telling you, why is it so hard? They
always go, oh, a dB dropped a ball. That's why
they play defense back, not wide receiver. I said no,
because it's not thrown to you. You have to go
get the football, and it's you know a lot of
times it's you know, a wobbly pass or it's thrown
behind your low And so yes, those ones are very
similar to I just broke, you know, a ninety yard

(58:05):
potential touchdown. No one's within twenty yards of me. Please
don't drop this, and that's not what you want to
be thinking when you're trying to catch a football.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Yeah, I've uh I thought that several times. Thankfully I
didn't drop it all right. This next play, Gino Smith
finds js in for the game.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
When it touched down, Gino from the shotgun, lock and
wide to the far side JSN. He gets the throw nearside,
turns out field, got a dock a touchdown, say Hawks,
no flags, DK metcalf with a great block Jackson spiff
and Jigga turns up field and takes it in the

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front corner of the end zone.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Want to drive by the Hawks?

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Thank you Julian Love for the pick, and Seattle goes
back on top twenty three to twenty.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
So we talked with JSN earlier, who shows his quicks
on his paper. Let me ask you, when you watch
this from the end zone, does this look like an
r PO?

Speaker 3 (59:03):
That's what he said. He said it was an RP.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
He did say yes, Okay, I didn't hear him say that.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
He said, when your name is mentioned in an r PO, okay,
been excited.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
That's so foreign to me. It's news. I don't know
what offenses are telling people.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
What gave you the indication?

Speaker 4 (59:18):
It was our offensive line, and you go and watch
our center and our right guard. I mean they are
aggressively blocking that. And I see Sharboney start to step
inside initially for it. Gino doesn't even look for the
handof he just it's it's quick game outside. And what
impressed me, there's a lot of things that impressed me,
is it looks like a run to the people who

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are having to defend the run. But Jsn's quickness around here.
I mean, they got this covered. He's got the guy
on him covered. He just runs away from this guy.
It's not even close. And obviously DK, you know with
the block slash no hold is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
I think this is good coaching too, any good play
design because you have an RPO, but you're throwing the
football behind the line of scrimmage, so you're telling your
offensive lineman you can climb to that second level because
we're throwing the football behind the line of scrimmage, so
there's no illegal man down the field. If this word
RPO where Jason, we're crossing the line of scrimmage, then

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you know it's not gonna be It's harder for the
offensive line to play that because they got to kind
of wait to see and feel what the running backs
doing behind them. So no, I like this man. You
get pressure off the edge or one on one with
the safety, it's two on two on the outside. You
like those numbers, especially with a guy like JSN with
a ball in his hand.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Look at Bradford on display. Watch our right guard number
seventy five. Look how strong this man is. Yeah, this
man moves people. So why don't you tell the audience.
I know we all know what RPO is. Why don't
you just tell him what RPO is?

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
So an RPO is a run pass option. What Gino
does is there's a defender that they are throwing off of.
Now in this formation right here, you got a too
high you got a too high safety look, and you
have a nick though I believe that's inside of Jackson
Smith and Jig, but he's reading him. He goes Look
if he bites on the playfake or if he blitzes,

(01:01:08):
I'm gonna throw the bubble screen to JSM. If he stays,
then I'm going to run the I'm gonna run. Or
if he bubbles out with JSN, I'm going to run
the football. So Gino, I think they showed the blitz
pre snap. That's why he was able just to eliminate
handing the football off to Zach Charbonnay and say, all right,
we got two onto an outside. I'm gonna give it
to my youngster and let him do his thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Because they pretty much send the house on this thing.
I'm even looking at the free safety. He's got the
tight end. There's it's zero coverage. Yeah, or it looks
like two initially like you said, and then they bring
the guy off the corner on JSN side. The safety
ends up picking. He's looking at the tight end. So
this is an all out blitz. And so I guess
one thing we don't really talk about is what a

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great decision by Gino. Yeah, you know so, because I
don't know if we'd had anything in the run game,
I don't think we would have.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
All right, man, those are your three player we're breaking
stuff down. When we return, it's time to talk that talk. Man,
We're gonna talk about three things there. It could be
Leonard Williams, it could be the Ravens Geno Smith, who
knows Jason Peters all of that and more. Man, A
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(01:02:20):
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to stay tacos. If you got good tacos, I'm at
least give it a try and see what's somebody what
you have.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
I went tacos too, but I went with halibut, a
little more refined than steak, with a little bit of conceit.
They get my humor, a little bit of cauliflower and
a lot of water.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
All right, make sure you join us here at Hawks
Live at Bellby Square Center course. We have a chance
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Bellvy Collection tonight they giving away gift cards too, Central
Bar and Restaurant and Daniels Burler. Like I said, when
we're returning, we will talk that talk. That's next right
here on Hawk's lot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and
Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
We're live, Baby, It's Hawks Live. We're still live. In
this piece. We got our soldiers, man, these are our
Hawks Live soldiers. Right once you get to the second
to last and the last segment, these are the ones
who really care about you. Paul Moyer, I remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
I well, I know our peeps, I mean, but I've
not seen our crowd clear out quite that fast before
after JSAM left. But this is our most favorite place.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
They treat us, right, Yeah they do, Yes, they do.
All right, it's time to talk that talk? Ready to this?

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
All right? This is where we go back and forth.
We bring up some topics and Moyer reads one, I
read one, and we try to agree or disagree, right,
and the first one I'll go ahead and gets going.
Man Lintle Williams makes this a Super Bowl Oliver defense?
Is that true? False? Thoughts? What do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Well, I've certainly liked the direction our defense is gone
since they've been saying since week four, we're the number
one defense in the league since week four. Now we're
in what week eight? Nine? We had a bye week
so week nine, so you know we're talking four or
five games stretch there. So that's pretty good. But I
believe so. And the reason why is it allows us

(01:04:25):
from a matchup standpoint, I think the biggest reason why
we end up getting Leonard Williams was the offensive lines
were about to face Philly is a great offensive line.
We got to have some girth in the middle there.
We're not that big defensive line, so you got to
have that. And the same thing. We got forty nine
ers twice and obviously this week against Baltimore. Here's what

(01:04:47):
I will tell you. A bunch of my talk that
talk stuff is going to be decided after this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I was gonna say it really.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Is, because if we condom, don't want to say dominate,
it's gonna be a tough game. This is a tough
game we're about to play. You know, Lamar Jackson's completing
seventy percent of his passers. He's having a great year.
They've got receivers all over the board, they've got a
good line. Defenses really sound physical, but I think we
are too. And if we go and beat Cleveland the

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number one defense at the time, and I don't know
if it's Baltimore number one now, yep, So back to back,
I don't want how many. I don't know, if that's there,
that may be the first time in history for the
Seahawks back to back number one defenses that you're gonna face.
It'll say a lot this week, but I do believe
it makes us a super Bowl caliber defense. I thought
we were pretty close before that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
See, I didn't think we were that close. I thought
the Hawks were a get out of the wild card
and see what happens type of team. But then being
start to happen. The Niners lose three in a row.
The Hawks find a way to be the really good defense.
The game they didn't lose as of late was against
the Bengals. He felt like they could have won, that
should have won, that should have won. That they started

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to show me some things, and I'm like, Okay, this
sea is better than I expected. And honestly, the defense
is better than I expected. I thought the offense would
be the side of the ball to kind of push
them towards greatness. So I look at this pick and
I go, I love the pick. You need help in
the interior. It still allows room for the outside guys
to grow. And what the interior guys do is they

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force a quarterback to vacate and health these outside edge rushers.
So I look at them and I go to super
Bowl caliber defense. I'll see utter this week. So I say, no,
not yet.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
So let me ask you a question. Just a fun
segment do you see a weakness in our defense? No,
because we can match up in the secondary. That's what's
been missing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Right, Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Then I think Jordan Brooks along with Bobby Wagg Jordan
Brooks is I mean, he's playing electric, he's playing elite,
elite stuffman. And then you're throwing mafe what he's starting
to do. And I again, Gray aunt Jones does not
get enough credit John Reid what they've been able to do.
And then Bobby has got this fountain, a youth thing
that's just kicked in.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
And we haven't seen Jamal's best game yet.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Now he's getting better, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Getting healthier and healthier. So I say, not quite. They're
really close to in my opinion, really close.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
So I just kind of goes to my next question.
Maybe we've already answered it, But the Seahawks when they
win on Sunday, will it shift your expectations for this season?

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Yeah? Definitely. Now, this is they got a gauntlet coming up, right, Yes,
they do. You got the Niners twice within a few weeks,
you got Philly, you got the Cowboys. But this is
like the warm up before the month long gauntlet. So
if they get this done in Baltimore East Coast. They've
been great on the East Coast, so I don't even
think that's a factor anymore. It's more dismatching up. You're

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playing against one of the more responsible quarterbacks in the
league right now. I don't think Lamar gets enough credit
for what he's doing over there. He's got a new
offensive coordinator in a monk who came over from the
University of Georgia. He started the season kind of slow,
trying to figure out who he is and how he fits.
You got Zay Flowers over there, who I feel like
it's the best rookie receiver so far this year. Is
you run after the catch? Is crazy. There's only three

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or four league tight ends in the league every year.
They got one over there in Mark andrews Odell. Beckham
is banged up. I don't expect much out of him,
but they also have Gus Edwards in the backfield and
he'll as well. Edwards is banged up, Beckham is banged up.
Will see if they play. So if they get this done,
this is a quality win. Lamar Jackson is something like
seventeen eighteen and one against NFC opponents throughout his career.

(01:08:36):
He's I think he's like the third most winning this
quarterback in the last X amount of years. There are
a lot of hitting stats when you look at the
Baltimore Ravens, So if they win this, to me, they
go from a get out of the wild card type
of team to your continuing to get into the NFC Championship. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
I'm really excited about this game because I really think
we match up well defensively with them and obviously get
more Williams and is going to be good. It definitely
changes for me because now you go six and two,
we got the Washington the following week at home, you're
seven and two. Then we go on this gauntlet. But
the gauntlet is the forty nine ers twice Philly and

(01:09:16):
the Cowboys. I mean, that's that that's a road, right.
But now you're as I mentioned that, Well, I'm not
worried about the Yeah, I get and don't get me wrong.
We played a bad half versus m We we had
the lead at halftime in the opener. I just we
had a bad half. I mean to me, it's the
only thing that's hurt us this year. And we couldn't
score in the red zone. Versus Cincinnati, we dominated that name.

(01:09:38):
We dominated both sides of the ball. I just couldn't
get the thing in Anzeo. And that's going to be
important this week as well. But if you're seven and
two after you, if you win this game and then
you got Washington, I got Arizona Rams, I'm just I'm
just throwing numbers down. Now I'm nine and two. Get
if I split those four games, you know, we're eleven
and four and I don't even remember who else we

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got left. But games that we can We obviously can
win this game. It sets up the whole season, and
I think it makes them realize we can play against
any type of footboard play towerhouse. We can match up
with a team like Cincinnati that throws a ton out
of the football forty nine ers and may want to
run at a ton. Yes, it changes everything for me

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after this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
This is what I need to see the Rams. Excuse me.
The Ravens have eight interceptions as a team that's top ten.
Geno Stone, the safety over there, has five of them.
Things on his own, Kyle Hamilton over there is a
good safety as well, So different type of challenge this week.
Last week it was all about the box. It was
all about that defensive line this week. You respect that

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defensive line because they do lead the league when it
comes to sacks, but the back end is a bit
mold better at that safety spot.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
It's gonna be tough. I'm really interesting in the game plan.
It's gonna be hard to run on these guys. Last week,
you know we talked about you know, Cleveland was upfield.
They wanted to get through a knife between a guard
and a tackle or a center and a guard. Their upfield, upfield, upfield,
so they created havoc. But with that they also created
lanes so you could hit on a big plan. We
hit on some big runs. This team is they are

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bull rush run first, a little bit two gap and
then they get and then they're aggressive in their pass rush.
Really an interesting challenge this week.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
I agree. All right, here's one for you. Gino will
outplay Lamar Jackson on Sunday. I'm talking better at completion percentage.
Lamar is completing seventy percent of his passes. He's accounted
for fourteen touchdowns overall, nine passing, five rushing, has only
turned the ball over three times three interceptions. What do
you think about that match up?

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
That that is that is the matchup because look, I
think like last week our defense, he toy outplay Cleveland.
We did. I think I think Gino has to outplay Lamar.
Now he's not gonna have as many rushing jard but
I think he has to get more cold yards. He
has to have a higher completion percentage. And because I'm

(01:12:04):
picking us to win this game, and look and Gino
has to outplay him, I'm going to say yes. And
I don't know how confident I am I have.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
I think Gino can not play as good as Lamar
and the Hawks cans still win this game because they
can rely on the run and their defense. And I
think that sometimes quarterbacks look great in between the twenties.
You're getting the red zone and things happen. But I
think this is a game that Gino gets ripe. It's

(01:12:34):
been a while, right the last two weeks. Is that
five turnovers, I want to say.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
And two of them in the red zone. Last year
he did not throw it. He had seven touchdowns, zero
interception on huh. This year he's eight and two. I
want to say, eight touchdowns, two interceptions. He's got to
get above fifty completion in the red zone. No turnovers.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
All right, So I'm going to say Gino's Smith will
outplay Lamar Jackson. And I'm right there with you. I'm
just trying to put it out into the universe. Have
that thing circle around land in Baltimore, and you know,
they say, you know what we got you because the
Hawks have been playing some good football defensively, and sometimes

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that's all it takes, right your defense, hold it down,
hold it down, let the offense try to figure it
out the rest for one hundred yards. A couple of
weeks ago with Ken Walker, you're getting JSN involve, Jake
Bobble was involved. DK was sick last week. So now
I think all is going to be healthy, All is
going to be well, and we'll get it done.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
I'm hoping. So Lamar is a problem, so hopefully we
got something for him.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
All right, Well we got something. We got one more,
one more segment, Togo, we got something for our faithles
right here, Gokoo, because I see you with the hat
right there, baby, All right, coming the next we'll give
you our show recap and final thoughts. Keys to victory.
That's next right here on Hawk's Live.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Welcome back to Hawks Live and Michael Bamas with Paul Moyer.
We are live at l B Square Center Court. This
is the part of the the show where my posture changes.
I'm leaning back now, kicking in with the family. You
know where where if we could have beverages, we would
have beverages right now. And you came up with a good,

(01:14:27):
a good suggestion for this segment.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Moy Er.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
I want to say more Yezy, and then I say Moyer.
Then I got all my words mixed up. So with Moyer, Okay, Moyer.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
I want to mess with I don't want to. I
can't get into b Waltz. All right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
I feel you. I respect that about you, man, I
respect that. So we're going to go through the Hawks
schedule and Moyer wants to predict what their wind loss
is going to be at the end of this year.
So when you look at it, talk me through it, Moyer,
what do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
Well, because we talked about how important this game is
and we'll know a lot more and again this weekend
won't define this team that we're gonna keep getting better.
We're young, you know, we got Leonard Williams. You know
it's gonna take a bit as well. But if we win,
it's a counting on us winning. We go to six
and two. The next game, we have Washington here win

(01:15:22):
seven to two. We're seven to two. Then we go
to the Rams. I'm just telling you that's a win.
I mean, Stafford has got a bit of a sprain
in his elbow there. They're just we had a bad
second half. I don't expect that again, even though they
are a bit of a pain in our side. But
now we're eight and two, and it gets interesting because

(01:15:42):
now we got San Francisco Thursday night at home Thanksgiving. Right,
we got to win that one, and that that's revenge
to me. I'm winning that, sorry guy, I'm taking that win.
We're four well, because I think it's favorable. I got Washington.
The Rams will look Baltimore's to me is the is
the litmus test? Right and okay, where are we truly?

(01:16:04):
And if we lose that one, we'll have to redefine
ourselves a little bit with you know, the forty nine
ers in Dallas. But I'm getting that one at Dallas
the following Thursday, which is really cool because the Cowboys
play on Thursday. We play on Thursday, we all come
back the following Thursday. That's gonna be a great game.
I'll give that one to him. I don't you know.

(01:16:24):
I think Cowboys are pretty good. We're gonna have a
big following.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
There, though.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
I know there's a ton of people I've talked to
there going there. So now we're nine and three, we're
out of forty nine ers. I got to give that
one to them, even though I think we're gonna beat them.
I just split, you know, Yeah, we split it. So
now we're nine and four Philadelphia at home. Look, it's
proven time. We got to get that one. Ten and four.
I think we match up well with them too, But

(01:16:49):
that'll be a that'll be a playoff game. And you
got Tennessee at Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Do we win that one.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
I'm winning the one at home in Philly. Yeah, I'm
going ten and four. Look, I'm taking us. You asked
me if we're a Super Bowl cowper defense. Then we're
at Tennessee and we got Pittsburgh in Arizona.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
You win those, you win those?

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Come on, I mean, what if we stumble on one
of those. We're talking thirteen and four, twelve and five.
It's so weird, odd number. But that's why this game,
this Sunday is so big. Yeah, so big.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
I agree one hundred percent with your analysis of the schedule.
The only thing that would derail anything that happens knock
on wood are players injuries going down, right, and at
some point someone's gonna go down. That's just how the
NFL works. Hopefully it's not someone that you really depend on.
But on the flip side, you can look at the

(01:17:40):
other teams and say they're gonna deal with the same thing. Right,
You got to say healthy. We see the forty nine
ers what they're dealing with in their health. Matthew Stafford
is an old man in the NFL. We'll see how
that works. Dak Prescott is one of the most unreliable
expensive quarterbacks the league has to offer for you. And
then who is Tennessee? Well will Levice through for three touchdowns?

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Yea?

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Four touchdowns? Last week? Did they win the game tonight?
Been paying attention to anybody?

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
They were up like ten or thirteen? Nothing?

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
We Steelers won. Steelers came back one, and everyone's got
that game.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Let me always tough, but we got we got the
Steelers at home. Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
You can ask me whatever you want to, Paul you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
We were talking about injuries. What's the one player on
this team we can't lose?

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
It's Gino Gino.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
I agree with that, don't get me wrong, And it
would hurt us because Genos is our leader and though
but I'm like, you know, I think I think Drew
could could weather the storm for us. But okay, take
away the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
He's got to win.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Well, I think we could, is my point. Forget the quarterback, namely,
one player we can't lose right now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
The ways playing I think is Joy and Brooks.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
No, I'm with you on it. We lost Cross.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
You can't be with me both times to come with
someone else? Who do you think it?

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Number twenty one?

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
I was gonna say that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
I just what he does match up inside outside, his toughness.
To me, if it makes us a complete secondary, I'd
hate to lose anybody. But I think we have depth
that a lot of positions that one, to me would
really hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Okay, I ain't mad at it. No, I'm not mad
at any of y'all either our fans who stayed here
hey even after the young man JSN left man. We
appreciate you, guys. Special thanks to John Radigan, Jackson Smith
and Jigg before joined the show. Our board operator is
Max Struble, onside engineer is the lovely Brennan Rodgers production
of Sensitis Chelsea Sanders, and our executive producer is Nasa Shoby.

(01:19:47):
The Seahawks pre game show was live this Sunday starting
at seven am. Until next time. I'm your host Michael
Bumbas with my man Paul Moyer will be back next
week right here on Hawks Live

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