Hawks Live with K’Von Wallace, Kenny McIntosh & More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue
Collection at Bellevue Squares, Center Court, every Thursday from seven
to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports Now. If
you're your hosts Michael Buffis and.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Paul Moyer, you are listening to Hawks Live presented by
the Dining District after the Bellvy Collection. The show starts
at seven every Thursday right here on Seattle Sports seven
to ten, broadcasting live from Bellby Square Center Court and
with my guy Paul Moyer.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
And we're wasting no time.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I don't know if you guys recognize as young man
here right now it is Halloween. Butill let me tell
you a little bit about him, all right. I mean
he's from Highland Springs, Virginia. Letterd in two sports men
All State and the two sports also played for Clemson
when a national championship was drafted in the fourth round
by the Philadelphia Eagles fifth year in the league. Give
it up for dB Kvon Wallace one time, Kyvon, you're

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ready for Halloween?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Man?

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Oh yeah, definitely, got look good.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Tell me about this is what they do in the
Red Carver right, tell me about what you're wearing. Who
you were right now.

Speaker 6 (01:00):
I am Ron Weasley from Harry Potter.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Are you a big Harry Potter Fanah?

Speaker 6 (01:05):
Well, my lady is more of a big Harry Potter
fan than I am. But I know a little something.
I watched all the movies.

Speaker 7 (01:11):
All right, say, well, you got your family here, so
did you come as regrets to tell me about your kids?

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Halloween is a big deal for.

Speaker 6 (01:18):
Okay, my son Keiko, he's Harry Potter. Okay, Nia is
Harry Potter's wife. I forgot her name, sorry, and my
lady is Hermione because Ron and Hermione ended up being
together later on.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Yeah, set in that future.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Family the family theme.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Look, Harry Potter, I think the closest I got to
a family theme were Ninja Turtles my whole family, and
we got five. I'm married, I got three kids five
naturally I was Michaelangelo. You know, my wife should have
been Massive Splinter, show us telling us what to do,
so she should have been Master Splinter. I forgot which
which she was, though, man, But thanks joining us. Man,
it's a Thursday, it's Halloween. And then I know you've

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got stuff to do, so we'll get you in and out.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
So you're here in Seattle. Man, it's first impressions of Seattle.
How do you like it so far?

Speaker 6 (02:10):
It's dope. The people, the fans crazy, The organization is beautiful.
Just just the practice facility is my favorite part about
it because we practiced right by the lake. Some people
come out on their boats sometimes give us a little
way their houses on the lake. It's just it's just
a beautiful scenery. And then we're on the green grass man,

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doing what we do best, and it's it's just, you know,
always fun, just getting with the guys and and winning.
It's all about winning, and hopefully we can get y'all
win this Sunday.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Sir, you have lived a pretty blessed life.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
You know.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
One thing that's fun is when we get you guys
coming here, we get tell, you know, research you and
you know, really successful in high school, All state as
wide receiver in the DV state champ goes to Clemson,
two time national champ.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Good drafted by Philly. Almost the super Bowl, the super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Almost need the super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
But you know they usually say when guys have that
much success, make sure you hire them.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
So we're going to talk after this for your post career.
It's just just something from you've been little.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
Have you just always been successful in sports and in
team sports?

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Well, it took. It took a little while. Growing up,
I was usually on the worst team, just being everything
for my team. I played quarterback growing up, and like
we would get beat thirty to eighteen fourteen, and I'll
be the only one scoring and getting getting sacks and
safeties and stuff like that. But growing up wasn't really

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much winning going on. It really happened in high school.
In high school, I ended up starting my senior year
playing both sides of the ball, ended up having a
very very great year. I had players like Greg Dort
who's also in the NFL, macay Beck and who's also
in the NFL on that team team. So we were loaded,
we were stacked. We got five guys that played on

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that national champion I mean that state championship team in
high school that's in the league right now. So we
end up winning the state championship, last state championship, first
one since nineteen sixty six from my school. So then
it just started being in like a domino effect. I
ended up getting offers, end up going to Clemson, and

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my true freshman year, I go out there and win
my first national championship. That was Dope with Deshaun Watson.
And then I went to I went to the playoffs
every year in college. Blessed to even be available. I was,
I was healthy, then miss no games. I think I
started over almost forty games in my career.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Just just blessed.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Just you gotta have a little bit of luck too, though,
you know, gotta have some luck, Gotta have some faith,
Gotta gotta always just put yourself in a position to.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
To be okay.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
You gotta watch who you're around, the influences, all that stuff.

Speaker 8 (05:04):
Man.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
You just gotta always be at the right place at
the right time. And I'm blessing fortunate enough to be
around a lot of those who supported me, helped me
get to this point, and that's why I'm continuous to
be having success.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Bump.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
He said his high school team was Stack. Went to Clemson.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah that was Stack too, y'all. Y'all, y'all changed the
game in Clemson.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
It says you appeared in fifty nine games, so you're
well seasoned, and you got to hear Dabbos speak a lot.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I went to a coaches clinic in.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Portland, and Dabo flew over in a jet and and
he spoke to us, and within three minutes I was
locked in.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know, I'm leaning forward. I'm listening to him to
do that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
And uh, just the way he talks about his life,
his philosophy, what he believes in, and his team. You know,
I'm thirty eight. I'm ready to play for you right now.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Coach.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
What was it like playing for Dabo?

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Man was just an energetic guy, but he's a players coach.
He knew everybody in my family, name, the ages, the schools,
Like his memory is just so long, man, and and
it make you respect him even more that he cares
enough to know your family, know where you come from,
and really like put put the business aside. He wanted

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to know where your heart at. He wants to know
what type of man you want to become. Just just
just always influence us in a in a in a
better way. I end up finding God at Clemson. He
was a huge part of that because he was just
so holy and and and just high spirited of a man.
And you know, as as a young guy just growing

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and learning, you want to be somewhat like that. You
want to be that old and have that much joy.
He coached with so much love and so much joy,
and it's just contagious and everybody feed off of that.
And that's why we want to go out there, run
through a wall for him and play hard for him.
He's a great guy.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, I mean, he seems like it comes across me.
Wears his heart on his sleeve.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Just in this off season.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
This off season, I was on his bat just round
the lake.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Don't super dupe clem.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
There's a lot of cool stadiums in college, great experiences
in the SEC. Clemson, though, has that tradition man, the
way you guys walk down man just talk about I know,
I don't know if you can even describe it, but
it seems like just an amazing experience playing there.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
It's just it's all about the culture.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Debo sets the standard there and all the players got
to buy into it. You you have to develop, you
have to do the right things. You have to go
to school. You gotta go to class. Like he don't
play about none of that. If you ain't going to class,
you're not playing. If you if you missing practice or
you late, you're not playing. Or you you you're sitting

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out sometime like and it helps build character, it helps
you to grow up faster. But just just playing that
Clemson man, it's just it's so peaceful there, man, just
being free.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Man.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
The culture. I could just talk about the culture there.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Man.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
Just the way he just sets the standard and the
way he leads us is super dope and want to
you know.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Just follow.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
So I played receiver in the league and we have
a Everyone calls us divas, right, diva receivers and stuff,
and I see it most of the ballers that the
top one percent our divas.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
But DB's got a chip on their shoulder.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Man, I have not met a dB who did not
know how to talk that talk out there on the
football field.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, what's what's your personality like on the football field?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Man? It depends.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
It depends. Some games. I get a little bit more
rowdy than others. You know, some some teams don't talk much.
You got some teams that won't say nothing. And it's
hard to be talking to a guy and trying to
talk trash to a guy that ain't saying nothing back.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
But I always bring my own.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Energy, high energy at it.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
If if I make a play or somebody else make
a play. I make sure you know that that that
the TV show, like, that's that guy made the play
or I made the play. Just doing celebrations, just just
always about the team, always about my guys and building
them up and they building me up. It's it's it's
a team thing. And it's just beautiful.

Speaker 8 (09:17):
Man.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
My person on that field is just I do whatever
I can to represent the name on my back, which
is Wallace and my family back home, and then the
name on the front was the Seahawks and the organization.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Man.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
I just I just always want to put good stuff
on tape and and and that personality helps me do that. Well.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
I was gonna ask a couple of questions, but producers
that we get one more from you. Tell me something then,
or tell them tell something that we wouldn't know about
you that you could maybe share.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
Wouldn't know, Uh, wouldn't you know?

Speaker 5 (09:55):
What do you love to do away from football? Man?

Speaker 6 (10:01):
I do a lot. I do a lot of Like So,
my mom has this group back home where it's a
bunch of kids who need a little bit of help,
and she allows me to speak to them and speak
life into them and speak positivity into them. And I've

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done it on the numerous occasions. Just just speaking man
and giving life into the youth. I'm all about the youth.
I'm all about my football camps every year. I feel
like that's that's the one most thing outside of football
that bring me the most joy.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I'm a gamer, you.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Know, I play the game a lot, but when it's football, man,
I'm so dowt in on film, Just hours hours of
film and hours hours just trying to get my body right,
just so mentally focused on the game and the task
at hand. I don't have too many hobbies outside of
football other than just gaming or like trying to speak
life in to the youth.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, Kavon, just by talking to you, I can tell
you're a good professional by looking at you.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Your a hell of a dad too.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Go out there and have supulchia family. Thanks for taking time.
Appreciate you. Thank you all right, Coming up next, man,
we'll give you a high level preview of the opponent
this week.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's next on Hawks Live.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Hawks Live, I'm presented by the Dining District at the
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on Seattle Sports.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Welcome back to hawks Lie presented by the Dining District
at the Bellevue Collection every Thursday.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
We are right here Belvy Square Center Court. It's Halloween
is going down, It's costumes everywhere. I'm the best one
I've seen so far. It's probably a kid who couldn't
decide what he wanted to be up top people with
Spider Man down low Hill was a dinosaur, and I've
been there before.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Sometimes kids want what they want. It is better just
to give it to him than to go back and
forth with them. So Mom just said, look, you're you're
a spider sore, You're a Spider Man and Asaur. Here
with my guy, Paul Moyer as usual. Tough game last week,
Paul yep thirty one to ten. Not the game that
we expected. What do you do with this film? There
are some games where you just throw it away. There's

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some games where you go through it quickly. There's some
games where you drill, you drill, you drill the mistakes.
Head coach Paul Moyer is doing what huh?

Speaker 5 (12:22):
I'm not throwing this film away, but I'm also not
going to spend too much time. I'll give you an example.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
I went for the first thirty three plays, which is
basically the first half had about eighteen coaching points that
I was writing up.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
I can't go through all those.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
What I do need to say is, okay, this I
gotta lumpies together and say this is what we got
to spend some time on. To me is it's all
about fundamentals right now, and it's the little details. I guess,
the little details of keeping your shoulder square. If you're
set in the edge, not getting too far upfield on
a run, you got to shut it down really quick

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or you open up the gate really staying focused and
not just what gap you have, but when you can
come away from your gap.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
You can't do that early. I mean, there's just a
bunch of fundamentals that.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
That we're not quite sunk up yet with our defensive
line and linebackers and even our safety and nickel when
they're all up up in the in the box like that.
So I'm not throwing it away, but I'm not going
to spend too much time on it either. I gotta
get really I gotta get really defined what I want
to fix and then move on.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, there is a theory that I have about this defense.
You have a new head coach.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You have a bunch of new coaches, and it seems
like everybody is learning together, even the coaches. The coaches
obviously obviously no more than the players. They spend more
time with McDonald one on one, but it seems like
everybody's learning together.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
And when I spoke to you during the week, we.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Were talking about how the defense does the seam in
sync at times, but there are times where they execute beautifully.
So I'm interested to see the steps that are taking
that are taking this week. You got Ernest who has
another week in this defense. You have Harris who has
another week in this defense. Take the necessary steps forward
and improve on us on a couple of things that

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they're one of two things that you want to see
right now when you turn on the film Sunday night
after watching that game, what do you want to see?

Speaker 7 (14:28):
I think you bring up a good point. First of all,
Ernest Jones, I thought played pretty well.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
I mean he is a good football player.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
You know, there's first play of the game they run
a play action and the way we play it, you
know he's got to chase that. But I thought against
the run, he's everything that I think there they hope
he's gonna be.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
He's good fifteen tackles.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
He's got a motor, he's strong, he can get off blocks,
he has a really good sense where the ball is going.
That's gonna help Dobson playing more of the week line
that you know, he's got to learn a little bit more.
So that's all I'm send a new learning curve for him.
Not much, but a little bit. I think if if
if we're saying one thing to figure we got to

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focus on the run. Defensively, they've got to be in
sync and that and that means I think our defensive line,
when do you get upfield?

Speaker 5 (15:22):
When do you shut it down?

Speaker 7 (15:24):
Because I think there's times where we'll get two three
yards upfield and we'll get a double team that pushes
our guy back a yard and now there's three or
four yards there. Even though everybody's in the gap, the
running back can weave through that, almost creating another gap.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
And so you got to be on sync.

Speaker 7 (15:42):
It's it's simple but hard, yeah, and it takes reps.
And that's why I think coach McDonald said, we're not
going to dumb this down and simplify it. We're just
not going to put things in the game plan that
maybe we run once or twice that we would need
to work on during the week. We need to focus
on just our base stuff and then we can add
from there.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
We're close.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
It's I would say, you're never as good or as
bad you put on the film. It's not like we're
getting dominated. We're getting dominated with the little things and
that's the stuff. They just got to slowly clean up
and get back to what we look like the first
week of the season.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, that's the tough part about this year is that
you knew going in there are gonna be some ups
and downs, but you start off three and oh, you're like,
what downs?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
If you start to play a couple quarterbacks who can
play the game, a couple of coordinators who who learn
how to attack you, and and you're constantly adjusting. I
look at this year for Mike McDonald and I just
want to see progress. I want to see a progression offensively.
I'm looking at this team and I want to see
an offensive line solidify, because when offensive line is solidified,

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guys understand how to communicate without communicating just a feel.
Every offensive line that I talk to they know all right, well,
if this guy is sliding this way and we have
a combo block, I'm the guy who's gonna go now.
And there are times whereas vice versa. So just some
guys solidifying their spots. I think offensively on that on
that line especially, can help take a step forward. But

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Gina's been playing some good ball. He's the third most
pressure quarterback in the game right now. My I guess
idea to help clean that pocket up was this week.
I said, move the pocket, give him some sprints or
something like, allow him to use his legs a little
bit to buy some time. And I think on the
back end that might clear some stuff as well. Even
though he's still playing pretty good this year.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
Well, how much does DK help coming back from that
goodness last week?

Speaker 5 (17:35):
It just like they were we were pretty clamped down.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, DK, he has the most explosive plays for receiver
in the NFL eleven catches over twenty plus yards. What
you saw last week, you didn't have the threat of
a guy going forty yards.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Down the field.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
And you know, as a safety, if you have a
threat a guy on the outside inside of the matter
where he is and he can push the ball down
the field, what did they say these have to do
they gotta stay on top, stay on top.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
What does that do?

Speaker 2 (18:03):
It creates space between those backers in the safeties and
the Tyler Locket is the JSN can work in that
intermediate spot, because I think that's what they're both best at.
JSN and Tyre Lockett, intermediate type stuff. Gino didn't have
one pass over twenty yards last week, and it's because
fourteen wasn't out there.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
Yeah, we really didn't push it. And look, man, this
is a game of inches and yards and feet and
all that stuff. And as bad as the outcome was,
I think of and you tell me how different is
this game last week?

Speaker 5 (18:34):
If we score from the two yard line the two
times we have the.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Ball, I mean we ran it down right.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
It was a seven zero and seven to three A
you missed out on essentially eleven points. You should have
put up fourteen points down there. And those are things
I think we talked about a postgame. We will probably
never see that again this year. We will not see
Connor william step on Gino's foot, and we probably won't
see him snap the ball over Gino's head.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
It was just unlucky. But when you get down there.
You have to be efficient.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I want to say the Seahawks are top twelve when
it comes to scoring in the red zone. They look
like a bottom third type of team in those in
those situations.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yeah, this is That was a game where if you
had have won, you may not.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
You may not go and say, hey, we got to
make the adjustments we need to make because you do
it to beat Atlanta played well there. Buffalo, we just
did not play well at all. You go and watch
Buffalo their offensive line. Look, we've played Buffalo, San Francisco, Detroit.
Those three teams, their offensive lines and their offensive coordinators
are a problem in this league.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
And you know what, we got a problem probably with
the Rams from an offensive coordinator. I don't think their
offensive line is near what we have played, So I
do think we'll have success. But man, this is a
game of inches and yards, and a game like last
week may have been the best thing that happened to
this team because we didn't play well and got whipped
to go.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Make some fixes.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
All right, let's see what adjustments they make, and we're
we're just gonna started.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Will we come back?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
We'll speak to running back Kenny McIntosh that's next right
here on Hawks Lot.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on
Seattle Sports.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
You are listening to Hawks Live every Thursday at seven
right here in Saltad Sports seven ten.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I'm Michael Bumpus with.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
My guy Paul Bowyer, and now we are joined by
Seahawks running back Kenny McIntosh. Kenny, how we doing, man,
I'm doing good on you and we're doing all right
things for joining us on a Thursday.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
No, no trick or treating for you. Huh you at
the house.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, I'm handing that candy though, but I'm not gonna
be walking around doing anything like that.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Before we get into the football questions, I just want
to tell you go Koog's because your brother used to
play for for WSU.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Man, go Coo Goko. Yeah. A lot of people out
this way, man know his name hand. They always he's
come up to me, run up to me when they
get a chance. Man. I always say, yeah, he's a
good guy. Man, So go cools man.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
We appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Man.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
What's what's that? What's that?

Speaker 6 (21:16):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
That?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Running back room?

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Like?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Because I've spoken to Ken Walker, he seems a little quiet.
I spoken as that he seems a little quiet. But
I've spoken to you a couple of times. You seem
like you're the personality in that room.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Many. Yeah, man, sometimes i'd be I'd be getting it
out of him sometimes, man, making them laugh and joke
around sometimes and getting the sense of human to come
out sometime. But now, once you get to know them guys, man,
definitely definitely funny, definitely great to be around. And it's
always a great time to be around when I'm around
those guys. So it's all cool when once you get

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to know them, man, But yeah, they are quiet.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
We uh, We've been pretty blessed here tonight. We got
a lot of success here.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
We had Keavon Wallace earlier, who was a two time
national champ. You were a two time national champ at Georgia.
So success breeds on this show today. One thing, you know,
I mean one thing. You know, last year, you know,
you get the injury. You know, that's that's gotta be tough,
just sitting out, and then finally this year you got

(22:16):
some touches. I know you want more, but what was
it like to finally get your first touch in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Man, it was everything and everything I've done to wait
that whole year and then to go out the proof
that I belong man so and improved with myself that
I was capable of, you know, making that jump to
the next level. So for me to go out there
and showcase my tongue that to the world meant everything
to me. And as run as you can tell that,

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it was running hard and you know, doing I had
to do. So I'm just thanking God that I was
able to go out there and be able to showcase
my tongue in this year.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
Now, do you do you need to remind Grub every
once in a while that you also are fantastic coming
out of the backfield and that they got to get
you out in open space.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Good no, good, no, man, I'm pretty sure he knows
that I got hands, man, But the other guys definitely
can catch that ball well too. Out the bett Shit.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Hey, Kenny, I was I was hot for you because
your your real first touch got called back for a
penalty and I saw that go there, like man, give
them the ball again.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
So I'm glad. I'm glad they fed you, man, But
how close? How close? Is this running game to popping off?

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Because Paul Moore and I we watch a lot of film, man,
probably not as much as you guys, but we're texting
each other at ten o'clock. I got to tell my wife,
this's the homie, don't worry about it. And and it
looks like you guys are so close to popping one.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
No, definitely definitely man in each and other week. Man,
that's that's something that we buy into. Man, We take
that serious in the run game, and we definitely breed
and want guys to know that that's what we're come
to do. No matter if we home or wait coming
to guy's house, we're gonna be able to run the ball. Man.
Then our line is definitely doing a great job of
you know, moving guys and replacing guys and getting to

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the next level and stuff like that. So yeah, that's
definitely gonna be assumed that we're gonna break a long
way and get these numbers back there, right for sure.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
Well, the transition when you come from college, especially guys
who are youngest playing special teams.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Did you play much special teams in college? And how
locked are you in now on special teams here?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'm definitely locked in for sure, But y'all did not
playing on the Curby smart RN. You're gonna have to
play special teams or that you gonna have to start out.
That's how you learn and earn and trust and stuff
like that. So definitely play special teams to my senior year,
but definitely locked in right now. That's definitely my role.
I know, my role like go out there each and
never wea to you know, give everything I got out there.

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The secial team. Just a brain and energy, especially for
the offense to go out there and you know, put
a drive together. Our defense definitely, you know, put them
a position the out there. Definitely at home, light up
the stands. So I'll buy into that, you know, every week.
So I definitely take full advantage of my opportunities on

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special teams though because they are limited.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
We're here with our running back. Kenny McIntosh. Man, speaking
of Georgia the Bulldogs, you're keeping up with your squad, man,
what you think of them this year?

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Man? Of course I'm keeping up guys, man, But they're
doing anything. Man. Speaking of the running game, damn proud
to see that come alive versus Texas and the run game.
But man got floated. This week is gonna be a
big week, rival week. So I'm surprised and I'm gonna
be locked in and you know see what has in
this week for sure? Man?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
What is it about running backs out of Georgia? You
guys have put some out over the past what five six,
seven years?

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Man? Is it? Uh?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Talk about just the run game? Is it the type
of player they recruit that? Is that what they're looking for?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Because uh, there's some ballers that come out of Georgia
at the RP position.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Nah, definitely it's rb U at u g a man.
But uh, I don't know what it is though, But
it's just something about the old line out there. Man.
They donna always have an old line that's gonna give
it a have fun to running back. It's like the
you know, every running beast dream the man to run
behind the line, off the line like Georgia. So and

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just the way they developed them there and even prepare
the guys that they do at the program. It's like
a win win going to Georgia. So you know what
I'm saying speaking of the Tuton National Championship, it's a win.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Warnings you can't live I know, you you mentioned U
Floridas your your rival. Uh in the big game. I
mean they say the biggest outdoor party out there. But wait,
but when you're playing Alabama, what what I mean? What
game are the fans more fired up for?

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Definitely Alabamba man, definitely a little bit morely man because
that's that's It's not like a traditional rival or generational rival,
but that's like the rival man everybody wants to get.
Once you get a chance to play those guys, now
we want to go out there to show them that
we run the SEC or you know, we the top
dollars in the SEC. Because everybody knows if this is

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Mike Georgia's mother is not opposite, you know, vice versas
because you know those are the you know, girl, man
play football and that's what you're definitely gonna have to
run the ball and you're either gonna have to start
to run the ball. That's where it's most physical, is
you know, doing those games. That's where the the you know,
the man separate from boys. So that's why you know,

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when you when you win that game, you know you
feel like run SEC. You know what I'm saying. And
you know, once you're on the top of the STEC
because everybody know that's the top division, so you want
to be there.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
It's a great person.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Can you be friends with any of your Alabama teammates.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Of course, Man, I gotta speak out that even left
Georgia to win over there. Man, so yeah, of course
them with God. But you know it's our love. Once
you get on that once you step in that field, though,
you know we gotta win out. You know, we definitely
tried that for sure.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Hey, Kenny, when I was in when I was in college,
all U football players thought that we could hoop. All
the hoopers thought they can play football. But if you
ain't playing football, what sport.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Are you playing?

Speaker 4 (28:20):
I'm definitely playing basketball. But man, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm full full court. Friends, Man, I'm doing man, we
can full all passing the ball. But uh no, definitely
playing basketball. I played a little basketball back in high school.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Role player.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Me and my boys Jay Flowers, Man, they say with me,
my boy Josh segment. Now, I had a few guys
on the team set basketball.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
When look, your life is football, I get it, it's
it's twenty four to seven. But when you're away from
the VMACU. What takes up most of your free time?

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Are you you a gamer?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
I like to call myself a game but I don't
really be on the game as much as you know,
as a lot of guys do. But I play a
little call of duty. But I'm more I like shows
and movies, so I'll be telling me watch the shows,
the movies something like that.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
All right, give us give me a good show. You're
watching right now?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
I said, I just finished Out of Banks, man. You know,
I'm a little late, but I just got caught on
and finished the new episode season. I just came out.
But Out of Banks is a good one though, I
just finished.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I like I'm watching out Last right now. I like
the survival type stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I think as humans we're softest. Heck, our ancestors were
so strong. We're sending air conditioning room right now.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I like, uh, I like those types of stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
I gotta go check it out. I gotta go see
what it's checking, right, but I go for it.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
I like power them definitely. Talk show.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah all right, Hey, well Kenny man, appreciate you taking
your time and hand out that candy and you have
a good night.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Man, good luck this weekend.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Sciate it I'll take you all right, man, it's.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Kenny macattosh Man fun interview right there.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Come join us here on a Hawks Live at Belvy
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Speaker 1 (30:31):
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Speaker 2 (30:41):
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Speaker 3 (30:45):
On Michael Bumpas. This is Paul Moyer every Thursday at.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Seven o'clock right here in Sattle Sport seven ten. We'll
be here at Belvy Square, Central Court.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
We've had great interviews already.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Kevon Wallace came up here represented Harry Potter with his family.
Kenny macintosh on the phone on a Thursday ninth and
it says Halloween kids are everywhere, go to sleep. It's
too late if my kids are listening, go to sleep.
Actually seven forty five, they got like forty five more
minutes then they gotta go to bed.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
They're not still trick or treating.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Uh yeah, I looked my son up his location. He's
hitting the block. He's hitting the block. I got he's fourteen.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Man, I gotta watch that, dude. I gotta watch that dude,
watch fifty.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
But let's talk about these Rams, man, now, let's not
it's a The NC West is so weird, man. At
one point, I was ready to write off the Cardinals,
and then they string some winds together. At one point,
I'm never writing up the Niners. I just felt like
they were banged up. And then the Rams are in
an interesting position too. You don't have Cooper Cup or

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Pooka new core. For a few games.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
You hear rumors about, oh, Matthew Stafford can get traded. Pookah.
Le's you not Pookah, Cooper Cup can be traded, and
then they come back and they go off.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Pookah has over one hundred yards and a touchdown. You
got Cooper Cup with the like five receptions fifty yards
and a touchdown. This team is not bad and I'm
looking at them by the numbers. The numbers will lie
to you because this is a different team when these
guys are healthy. You're looking at the Rams. Their twentieth
overall offense, twenty six when it comes to running the ball,

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averaging one hundred and one yards per game, fourteenth when
it comes to throw on the rock two hundred and
twenty two yards, and they are twenty third when it
comes to scoring points twenty point six. But all those
numbers are most of them were accumulated without Cooper Cup
and Puka Nikua, and they have a really good running
back over there, and Kyraen Williams.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
You look at the film on this team, Moyer, Well
what stands out to you?

Speaker 7 (32:38):
Well, it's hard. Like I said, they've been injured. Statistically,
they're not a great team. You know, they're stafford about
like Geno touchdown to interception ratio. I think he has
seven touchdown many five interceptions. Not great number. They got
fourteen sacks on defense, they're given up four point six
yards per rush. Defensively, they're only rushing it for three

(32:58):
point nine. Just statistically, you go, eh, but man, they
are like Deadpool. You can't kill them, man, you cannot.
They just keep coming back, and they're been a thorn
in our side. You know, there's something about McVeigh, the
way he gets his teams ready and the way they
game plan.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
They look. We've we have a different defense. We'll see
how that goes.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
They don't have as good offensive line as we've we've
faced three of the last four weeks. I mean, Detroit,
San Francisco and Buffalo's offensive line very good. Next actually
even the Giants not bad. So it's just they have
the players. They have the confidence right now that they
can go in and beat anybody. They can lose anybody too, and.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
We know that.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
So it's just gonna be a tough game. It's a
tough divisional game. Two defenses or two teams that are
kind of trying to find themselves right now. So it'll
be really interesting and to see what kind of adjustments
that coach McDonald has both offensively and defensively this week
going into this and do the Rams keep im proved,
which I hope they don't.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
The worst thing about this Rams team right now, the
best thing for them, worse for us, is that I
feel like they're finding their rhythm. You look at Matthew Stafford,
all right, he was eight for eight throwing to the
right side of the field. Last week, he was twelve
for seventeen fo one hundred and fifty seven yards in
one touchdown when targeting Cooper Cup and Pooka Nikoua. Also offensively,

(34:23):
when I think is gonna give these guys a little
bit of trouble is the pre sat snap motion. They're
gonna motion a guy. They're gonna send him that way,
They're tight end that way. Matthew Stafford's gonna look left,
look right, hit you down the middle of the field.
He is a savvy quarterback who understands this offense. That's
a safety back there. When you see all that pre
snap motion.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
What does that do to you?

Speaker 7 (34:42):
How much it's just window dressing? It really doesn't to me.
It moves, you know, your strength to your defense. A
lot of times in the running game. It obviously it
is a pre snap look for quarterbacks because they get
to see, hey, is this man or zone depending on
how normally adjust with motion. So I think it helps
probably more offensively. You could talk about that defensive I

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don't care, you know, I know they're gonna motion. I
will say this, the game's changed a little bit and
the type of motions they do. You're right, you go
watch the Seahawks. Seahawks shift motion, so now you shift,
you just moved your your alignment. Then they put a
motion and they do these weird deep ones, you know,
with some fly sweeps and some bubble screen. I mean,
so you know, there's the games just you know, it

(35:27):
keeps evolving too an a sense. But I don't want
to give offensive coordinators too much credit. You guys think
it fools defenses, It really doesn't. I think it probably
helps you guys more with pre snapbreads.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I'm gonna I'm gonna push back on that because I.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Spoke to Julian Love today, you know, and he says
it forces them to have to be on point with
their communication, and it forces the offense or it creates
a leverage for the offense. So he said that Matthew Stafford,
because of that motion, it allows them to see leverage
and allow to get the football off quicker.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
So pre snapbreed for your quarterback. I agree.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
And then the other part that Love he called me earlier,
he said, I've just got to say something to make
it sound right now.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
No, look, I might there's a reason why offenses.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Do it.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
I mean, there's clearly you know, you you have to
think at this point. You know a lot of times
my gaps changed. Okay who I'm covering, So you know
there's reasons to do it. But you know, these guys
are professionals. They study a lot of films, so.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Not not much. But you know, look, this is an
important game obviously. Is it a must win?

Speaker 4 (36:32):
No?

Speaker 7 (36:33):
Look at that, man, we got some good well Hercules,
Hercules just walked up here. It's an important game because
you know we're tied for first, Arizona's playing better. We
know what San Francisco can do. Didn't think the Rams
were going to be that team. There was talk they
were going to get rid of Cooper Cup, they were
going to trade them. And now I said, they're going
Wait a minute, we're tied in the Lost Calumn for

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first place in the division.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Maybe we go for this thing. So big game the Seahawks.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
I'm more worried about their confidence than their ability to play.
And I'm hoping that we get off to a quick start.
I think that's important as well for their confidence. We
haven't had good quick starts, you know, getting that quick
lead and making teams have to chase us. So I
think that's that's a big, big factor going into this game.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Uh, quick starts.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I'm glad you brought that up, because when it comes
to the first half, the Hawks are averaging ten point
four points.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
That's twentieth in the league.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
The last three games are averaging seven point seven points
in the first half.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
That's near the bottom. How do you get off to
al kickstart?

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Because we look looked at the offensive last game.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Go three and out three.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Now there are a couple a couple of plays where
the ball is batted down and Geno's not operating from
a clean pocket. It's it's I think it's a tough
question to ask, but I guess if you're the OC,
how do you get this team off tool quickstart?

Speaker 7 (37:54):
Well, it can be moralizing too, because you've been watching
film all week and of thinking these are our best place.
I'm scripting to keep the chains moving along the way. Look,
it's frustrating as a coach because you call something and
you see it and maybe one guy just doesn't sustain
a block, somebody jumps off sides. You know, we're just

(38:18):
again coming up to me too many third down tough situations.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
I don't know, man, I really don't.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
I mean, I can give you a bunch of coach
speak out there, but you just got to go out
and execute.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Because I watched our offensive line and I go, man,
it's okay, you know I mean, But then I put
on Buffalo and I go, that looks okay, But there's
something about the there. I don't want to say.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
Confidence isn't the right word, and I want to keep
using you know, sync o they're syncd out because I'm
overplaying that word too. But they know each other so
well on when to stay on that double team, keep
pushing through it, and when to release into.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
That second It's it's like a dance.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Man.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
They're just so coordinated. And then I watch us, I go,
we got our guys, but it's not as it's just
I don't know, it's just just clean.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
It's just, you know, we're turned maybe a little bit
more than we should instead of being square, even on
the offensive line at times, not quite getting to that
second level to cut the guy off.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
And so when you look at it, you go, it
looks okay. Everybody got their guy, but as a unit,
it's just not it's not perfect yet.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
You know, going into this week, I thought to myself, man,
they're gonna have a break. Finally, no Aaron Donald on
this defensive line. And you've gone through some good defensive lines,
starting with the New York Giants.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
And then I'll put on the film and I look
at this young defensive line.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I look at Fisk, I look at Kobe Turner, Bobby Brown, verse,
and there's no one on that d line who has
more than two years experience. But they play with this
energy that that could give this offensive line some trouble.
But that's the NFL. Every week, there's gonna be some
guys on the other side of the football, and our

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concern has been just getting the run game going. When
you look at the right side of the line, it
sounds like Anthony Bradford is going to be the guy
at GARB.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
So maybe he has stepped forward and kind of taken
that spot.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
You like that.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
I think he's improved.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
I do.

Speaker 7 (40:23):
Look, first of all, he's a strong man. So when
he got ya, he got ya. Yeah, So I know
it was bad grand but it was on purpose.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
I mean, he's strong.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
He can move a pile, and we need somebody who
can move you know, the hard thing for Christian Hanes
right now, he's just going to have to get stronger. Yep,
that's just bottom line. He just he needs probably put
on another ten to fifteen pounds. He's got to work on,
you know, all those incline and pressed type of strength
out there. He's gifted, he moves well. You know, he's

(40:54):
our future. I mean, I think our future is there.
It's just hard to crack a starting lineup Bradford's. He's
a very large man and he's a very strong man,
and they're getting better. I think once we get you know,
we'll see if we get Fan back and hopefully we
eventually get Abe Lucas back. I mean, that would really
create some I don't know, maybe people moving around that

(41:17):
offensive line.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
But I'm I used to pooh pooh big Ray Roberts
when he'd said, you know, offensive line's hard. You got
to really, you know, be coordinated and on your calls
and the timing of it. And I'm starting to believe
what he says there because you go watch our film
last week and I go, everybody played pretty well, and

(41:40):
then but I go, but as a unit, just again,
it didn't look perfect. And I went and watched Buffalo,
and I said, that's what it needs to look at,
just the timing of everything.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Buffalo and the Niners.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I watched those offensive lines work this year and it's clean,
and they're doing the dance that you're talking about, and
they're on the same page, staying in their boxes.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
They're a little two steps.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
So yeah, I think it's gonna take a reps, right,
reps and time in the same group out there consistently
for this old line to get going. Maybe it happens
this week. All right, more to do. When we come back,
we'll go around the NFL. That is next right here
on Hawk's Live.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
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Speaker 4 (42:24):
No.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
If you're your hosts, Michael Bumpas and.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Paul Moyer, welcome back to Hawk's Live every Thursday at
seven o'clock right here on Seattle Sports and Michael Bumpas
with Paul Moya, we're gonna go around the NFL. But
before we do, let me tell you make sure you
get out to Bellvy Collection Dining District.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
So many great restaurants to choose from. Today. We had
our pre show meal at Dukes. Not gonna lie ULDI
I don't eat seafood.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
They got burgers there.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
I had chicken tenders at the Little Kid's meal and
they were it was good.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
They have a great cod taco.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
That's what That's what NASA had.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
I I'm not a normally, I don't like fish tacos.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
I like tacos. Their cod tacos are the best I've
ever had. And they're not paying me to say that.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Really, no, there is.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
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Speaker 3 (43:21):
That's a big bulls is a it's two big boys.
I'll tell you one thing.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
If they are paying you under the table, I need
to go talk to Duke's okay, because that's not that's
not right.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Well, I can't tell my that's not right.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Heursday night football is The New York Jets are of
fourteen to ten. Aaron Rodgers eighteen for twenty eight, one
forty eight and two touchdowns, Breeze Hall twelve carries for
fifty five. Joe Mixon on the other side twenty four
carries for one oh six.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
C J.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Strout Man eight for nineteen one sixty five. He's missing
his dogs man. Stefan Diggs is out for the season.
Nico Collins is out.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
He made shacks seven times.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Man, it's tough over there. And uh, you know what,
I was talking to our producer before the show. We
spent a lot of time talking about Hassan Radick and
him not reporting to play for the Jets. Now he's
playing and nobody's talking about him. I think we should
give him, I guess a little bit of recognition. What
has he done anything today with his numbers over there?
I mean, I mean we were on his head, like

(44:20):
him a job, and I don't see anything. So I
tried to give you some lef as on.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
But I'll tell you what the Jets are up, what
they should be up, twenty one to ten.

Speaker 7 (44:27):
One of the guys is he's scoring a touchdown, drops
the ball like he thinks she's in the end zone.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
We've seen way too many times.

Speaker 7 (44:35):
But I'll bet you what Duke pays me that the
Jets find a way to lose this game. And they're
up fourteen to ten with four minutes left, and they
have the ball.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Come on, Jets, pull through. I don't. I don't necessarily
like Aaron Rodgers maybe as a person, but I appreciate
him as a football player. I want to see him
win some games.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I hate to see him go out like this. He's
my childhood, childhood.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Like just for the last twenty years, it feels like
I've been watching him play, So I want to.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
See him do his thing.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Yeah, he's showing his age.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Tom Brady maybe a few weeks ago, said that colleges
are no longer programs their teams and organizations. He said,
they're not developing quarterbacks anymore. Then you get to the NFL.
If you are a quarterback and you don't have.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Instant success, teams will move along from you.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
That's why I love Pat Mahomes sitting for a little
bit Mari Naden and learning the game. Aaron Rodgers did it,
Jordan Love has done it and he's having success. Anthony
Richison was benched, and I'm in this group chat with
my family members and everyone's saying, how.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Are they giving up on him?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
So quickly I said, I wouldn't necessarily say they're giving
up on him. It's completing forty four percent of his pastes.
I think maybe sitting down and watching a professional like
Joe Flacco operate and be him, we'll teach him a
thing or two about the quarterback position.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
What do you feel about that situation.

Speaker 7 (45:57):
I think it's tough. Look, you complete forty four of
your passes. I don't care who you are.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
You got to be betted. I mean, you've got to perform.
And the problem is you lose the team. The team knows.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Man.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
Way back when when I was coaching, we did not
have a quarterback, and it was we had a really
good defense. I thought we had some players around us,
but we could not win. We didn't have We had
a quarterback that we had no chance to win with.
And we finally put in a guy named Stan Gelball,
who's a journeyman quarterback, but at least it looked like

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he was a professional, and we won a couple of
games at least with him.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
That's what happened.

Speaker 7 (46:35):
You'll lose a team because you have another fifty two
guys that are saying, hey, I'm not here.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
To watch you develop him. I'm here to win today.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
And so when you realize that that guy can, we're
not going to win with him right now, We've got
to develop him. He's obviously got all kinds of skill.
He could throw the ball country mile, you know, he
could run like you know what. But there's more to
that being a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
So, and I think Tom Brady's right about college because
here's why college is now a free agency every year.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
So you're looking to replace your quarterback, even if he's
a Heisman Trophy winner every single year, if you think
you can replace him with someone better.

Speaker 7 (47:17):
In the NFL, I got a five year contract. You're
a rookie drafted early. You got a five year contract.
Almost all of that is guaranteed. So why waste him
the first couple of years? Likely they did the Bryce
Young and what they did probably to Richardson. So I
don't think they gave up them. They haven't given up
on him only his second year. They got to take
a step back.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Let him learn. So that was my long winded answer
to your question.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Final straw for me was I played quarterback in high school.
Were you good a running quarterback?

Speaker 5 (47:48):
I threw?

Speaker 3 (47:48):
I threw for about a couple of g's and ran
for about a GM myself.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Right, I never tapped out of a football game at
the quarterback position. As a receiver, you get tired, you're
running fifty yards down the field, you need a play,
you're bringing your back up. I have never seen a
quarterback tap out because he was tired. I mean that
move by Anthony Rigson, to me, just showed that he's
not quite sure how to be a professional in this league.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
I agree, because there's been some quarterbacks who have been bad.
Bad quarterback. I'll give it a go on Tim Tebow.
Tim Tebow threw fifty percent of his.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Passes, but Tim, but that team would follow Tim Tebow
because they knew.

Speaker 7 (48:30):
He would put his He'd put his life on the
line if he had to. And as a quarterback, you
have to lead. That's more important than the numbers, you know.
I mean, we've seen some quarterbacks in the path. I mean,
there's was actually an Indian applis for a while, and
I want to say the Raiders. Jeff George incredible arm,

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but man, just a space cadet as a leader. Man,
just Jeff George was Yeah, really, I mean he just
you know, he did things that were just I don't
I mean, he just for his arm. Yeah, he should
have been in the league for a long time winning
football games. Then he was just a guy that they
didn't win. So yeah, so leadership is important. I think
that was probably the last straw of all. Are you

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completing forty four percent of your passes and you're not
leading now?

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, Russell Wilson, Yeah, this is a man. I'm happy
for Russell.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
Honestly.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I was talking to someone on air the other day
and they said, well, Russell didn't didn't play well last year.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I go, well, look at his numbers. He actually played
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
You take us twenty six and eight from Gino this
year right now, and he's got a chance over there.
And the way Tomlin played this whole situation I think
was masterful.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
He never committed to justin fields. He said Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
At the pole position during the training camp, and as
soon as Russell was ready to go, he went out
and put him out there. And I think his OC
explained to him and Tomlin, obviously being the coach he is,
probably saw it.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Look, the playbook is open with Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
He has a good receiver over there, decent running game,
the defense is looking good.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
What are your thoughts on the Steelers six and two?
Right now.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
Well, Tomlin is one of the great coaches of all time,
and the man's.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Never had a losing record seventeen years.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (50:12):
I mean, Pittsburgh's organization only to have three head coaches,
I mean, come on, I mean there's something to that too,
the way they'd run an organization. But Tomlin reads people.
I mean, he is a master at he's a master motivator.
And he would never put Russell Wilson in just to
put him in.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
That's not his MM. So he saw it and he
convinced Russell, there's a way for you to win. You
used to do it.

Speaker 7 (50:41):
I've watched you. We're going back to that. We're going
to go to your strengths, and you don't get to
dictate what that was. You know, Look, Sean Payton should
have done what Tomlin did. She just said, you know what,
we actually got a guy here that is really good
at this. He just said, no, you got to fit
into my system rather than me build around you. So look,
they're great defense, they can run the football, and they

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got a quarterback that knows how to win that way.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (51:09):
Look, you know, Russell is going to be in the
Ring of Honor someday. I mean, he's going to be
back here and everybody should be happy. What he did
for him, the way he left it, that's stung, but
he's been humbled.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
And I hope he has great success.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
All right, that was around the NFL. Will we come back.
We'll go inside the film room. We're break down Josh
Job's pick. We also have Geno Smith gen tripped up
on fourth down and also an interception.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
All that is next right here on Hawk's Line.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue
Seattle Sports.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Welcome back to Hawks Live.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Oh, Michael Bumpus sitting here with Paul Moyer looking at
the greatest fans in all of the land.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Got a new trigger treader back there, We have a
sitting in front of us. What's the little man back there?
What is little man? Standing up? Little man?

Speaker 4 (52:07):
What you got? What you got?

Speaker 3 (52:10):
My eyes? Oh no, it was a little fish.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Yeah, but it's flounder. No, not flounder. Flounder.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
We got flounder. We got a Cheetos bag over there, Cheetos.
We got incredible haulk here. We got an evil nun
over there. Don't look at me too hard, and we
have some nightmares. It's a it's definitely Halloween in this piece, man,
and it was.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
It was.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
It was Halloween on on Sunday too. It was scary.
It was scary last Sunday.

Speaker 8 (52:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
But we're gonna go inside the film room, gonna break
down three plays. But the first play is actually a
positive and I love to see this man. Josh Joe
picks off Josh Allen for his first interception of the year.
In Josh Joe's first career interception from his own thirty.

Speaker 8 (52:53):
Seven has Johnson decide him in the backfield wide splip
to the far side. An't an intercepted pick up. It's
Jobe goes the hell away down to the thirty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Fifteen ten, knocking.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
Golf his his feet.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Outside the five.

Speaker 8 (53:10):
Josh Allen costs it up for the first time this season.
He tries to throw a slam right side and Josh
job jumps it and the youngster takes it all the
way down inside the five, and the Seahawks are set
up to take a lead here in this second quarter.
We thought it was gonna happen. It's the first career

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interception for the job and the first one thrown this
year by Allen.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Did he say for the job?

Speaker 5 (53:37):
For the job?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Raise man raids in his bag this year. He's in
his bag every year, but Ray's been saying some stuff
this year. What you see, moy just a.

Speaker 7 (53:45):
Great job by him. I mean he's up and bumping.
It's third and short. They're gonna run a slant route
on this. I think it's thirty short maybe yeah, I
think it's thirty.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
Three on this play. He does a really good job.

Speaker 7 (53:57):
The receiver slips a little coming when he used to
make his break, but Josh Jobes does a really good
job of putting You teach this, you put your.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Hand in this one.

Speaker 7 (54:06):
It's his inside hand right into the receiver's chest. Just
to slow that down and reclear your hips back and
he ran the route for him.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Good interception. I wish he had kept his feet. And
these are one of those.

Speaker 7 (54:19):
Things again when you're at practice, just another one practice,
running through the end zone, running through everybody. He sees
the crowd and he starts to duck down to protect
the ball. I would just like to see him to
protect the ball but still run through that. Hey, they're
gonna have to cut my legs out not to score
because he gets all the way down to the three
yard line, and if he had just got one more

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step on that, you know, it's a touchdown. Not that
that's a negative, it's just it could It was a
great play. He could have been a great great play
because we were down seven to three at the time. Yeah,
I mean we go up ten to three, We're probably
having a different conversation right now.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I love that this undrafted free agent Obama by Philadelphia
within a twenty twenty two I believe got his first
interception off of Josh Allen while covering Amari Cooper. You
know this, this is he gotta frame this one. This
was a big one for two to nine, and he
was close to making some plays last week. The week

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prior to this, remember there was a ball that was
thrown to him. Was really paying attention and hits his arm.
He could have intercepted the football. But this was a
big play. The defense two weeks in a row have
made some big plays late in the game when you
really needed it. I'm gonna critique a Mark Cooper a
little bit I'm orry it's too good of a receiver
to runner route like this. He didn't attack that inside
leverage at all. He just felt that, look, I can

(55:38):
give this young cornering outside kind of released look, not
have to force to get inside, and he's.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Gonna bite on everything.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
And Josh did a good job of being common that
situation and not taking the bait. So good for Josh Man.
I'm happy for this guy. We spoke to him on
Hawk's Live. Good young man. That guy is all right
this next play all right. Now we're back to scared
ready for this.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Geno Smith gets tripped up on fourth down and it's
all bad.

Speaker 8 (56:06):
In fact, he wings on the right side. Now he's
going to go in motion to the left side. Geno
trips and falls on fourth down. I mean, you can't
make this stuff up. His foot got tangled up, I
think with his guard as he was trying to pull
out from under center, and he tripped and fell on
fourth down.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
The ball is going to go over to the bills.
Oh my goodness, we're gonna take a break.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 7 (56:33):
You know why it's Oh my goodness, this is a touchdown, yep,
I mean it is a touch down. They are not covered.
They sell out. Their whole team sells out on this play.
They are so fooled on this play. It's almost comical.
I mean, go and look at the whole linebacker safeties.
We run a we pull our right guard on this.

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We were running to the left with an eye formation.
It's going to be a play action bootleg. The tight
end to our left side, is it Farrell? I think
it's uh, he's what. Nobody covers him the matterick nobody
covers anybody. If he can get the ball off, it's
a it's an easy touchdown. But you know, center steps
back just a little catches the toe of Gino. Gino

(57:19):
trips are pulling guard trips over Gino. You know it
looks like uh looks looks like a bad play.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
But it would have been a touchdown if we just
didn't get that little trip on Gino.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Just so unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Nice seeing excuse me, nice seeing oliw with Timmy? Is
that olowod Timmy in there at that tight end position.
Find a way to get him on on the football field.
You got Russell in the backfield as you're tight end.
The play design is nice. It is right there and
like you mentioned everyone executed. It's just unfortunate. You will
not see Gino get stepped on and fall like this

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again this year. Sometimes it is just not your dame,
And that's all I chalk this up to. Connor Williams
does a good job. He does a get blown off
the football. He's stout and he's just the timing is
all messed up, man. So unfortunate play for the Hawks
right there. Those are the plays that you you have
nightmares about because you realized if you just put these

(58:13):
points on the board, you get seven on the board
the game.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
This feels different and you're in the fight.

Speaker 7 (58:19):
It's fourteen to to seven if we score twice from
the two yard line.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
All right.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
This next play, Geno Smith is intercepted trying to find
ken Walker.

Speaker 8 (58:29):
At the Buffalo forty.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Here comes the blitz again.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Gino wants to get rid of it.

Speaker 8 (58:32):
He does screen pass and it's interceptor Baul was tipped
as Gino was trying to set up the screen pass
right side, and he threw it right to one of
the defenders, and I believe that was Austin Johnson's.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Good gracious.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
This is right here, Moyer. Again, unfortunate. I think, if
you're Geno, you got to try to see this and
throw it in the dirt. Nine to eight is lined
up over who is that our right guard? And he
doesn't bite. I think it's because of the release of
our guard. It's not smooth enough. When you are selling
these screens, you're anticipating the defensive line just being aggressive

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and going downhill.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
There's an art to it.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
You want to kind of block him and then give
him the cleanest release he's ever seen in his life.
So then he just gets downhill. This situation right there,
I believe it's Brafford. He doesn't give him that clean
release and he kind of holds him up, and that
split second of holding them up allows him to get
his eyes in the backfield and say, hold on somethings up.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Hey, what does he do?

Speaker 2 (59:32):
He finds the running back, you know, Smith, try to
make a play, just not able to do it. You
get your hands up, the balls tipped a little bit
and nine to A finds it and that's all she wrote.

Speaker 7 (59:44):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of coaching points on this,
and you're right. I mean, it's just I don't love
the design of it, because this has to be a
quick release. The way we're blocking this, you got somebody
coming off the edge. It's Scott Free, so this is
gonna be a quick screen on that. You gotta let that.
But defensive end get either really high and why and
push him by, or you're gonna have to cut him

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and get his hands down. I think the easiest, simplest
coaching point on Essa's abort because you just throw this
one into the ground.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
And I think this was one gino. Yep, you know.
It's just too crowded.

Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
It reminds me of. Remind me of Super Bowl twenty
fourteen where the play I get the call. I just
don't like it in that area where you run a
slant where there's potential tip balls. I want to get
out and see it. Same thing. It's just too crowded.
Don't throw that one because the risk reward's not worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
I got you, all right, man. Those were the three
plays were breaking down.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Hopefully next week after a w there'll be some more
exciting plays or breakdown and we can.

Speaker 9 (01:00:48):
You know what, No, No, I'm not doing it next week.
You're not because bye week we won't be here. You're right,
But the week after the week after. I'm gonna show
up anyway. I'll just meet me here, you see here
and look at each other and we'll do that. All right,
all right, when we come back, time to talk that talk.
We're gonna break down some some scenarios. Moy's gonna tell
me he's right. I'll tell me. I'll tell him he's wrong,
and you guys will side with me. That is next

(01:01:10):
right here on Hawk's lot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpis and
Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Welcome back to Hawks Live. It's time to talk that talk.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
We're gonna throw some scenarios out there and we're gonna
debate him a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Paul's gonna say he's right or that COMMONI is right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I'll say if it's right, I'll say if it's wrong,
and let's go back and forth.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
I'll start to save Paul. Here's the first one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
The Seahawks will hold the Rams to under one hundred
and fifty rushing yards.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
That hasn't happened since week four. Moyer, it's been a while.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
Defensively, I'm not gonna say I'm right. I'm just gonna
make a point, Okay, that will you'll do mine?

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
I don't know, so Mama told me not to assume anything.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
First of all, I do believe that will happen, because
one hundred and fifty yards a lot, and you've got
Cooper cup back, and they're gonna feature the pass a
little bit more. They're gonna try to run.

Speaker 7 (01:02:13):
But the Rams unlike Detroit, unlike San Francisco, and unlike.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
The Bill's Bill.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
That's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
I did that today.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Can you edit that out somehow? The Bill?

Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
They can run the ball with really good offensive lines.
They run for one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Man, we've got some we've got some serious issues.

Speaker 7 (01:02:37):
So I think we make the corrections by going back
to just more basic fundamental football, focusing on that. You know,
we're gonna have to play a little bit of you know,
two shales. Some man on cupping them. But I just
don't see the Rams strong enough to run for one hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
And fifty yards.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I'm a big believer in energy and putting a certain
type of energy to the universe, and the universe will
bring it back to you. So I'm gonna go out
there and say, nah, they ain't running for one fifty
because I want to put some good energy out there
and take care of this defensive line, take care of
the box.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I think they are getting better. I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
You talked about how things are just a little bit off,
and in football, if things are just a little off,
it can create some big plays and exposive plays, and
I think they're going to correct some things. I also
think that Mike McDonald has to do a great job
of coaching everybody, and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
That's a tough thing for him to do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
He is teaching everybody his defense at this point. I'm
sure coaches have questions, players have questions. But the more
you fail, the more you learn. So it's been a
while since you held a team to one hundred and
fifty yards or less, or under one hundred fifty yards.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
This will be the week.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Even though Calvin Williams is a good ball player, the
young man out of order Dame has has really stepped
up and done some things this year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
But it's going down. Man, It's not gonna happen under
one fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
I like it, unlike my how you're agreeing with me
because you just want peace and harmony.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
That's how I've been married fifteen years.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
All right, I'm gonna do you this one. Trey Brown
now has true competition with Pritchett and Joke.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Trey Brown does not have an interception this year, Job does.
I think Pritchett is in the mix, but I think
the real competition is between Job and Trey Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
And that's the tough thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Every opportunity I got in football is because someone got
hurt or someone wasn't doing their job and they say,
all right, man, go ahead and see what you can do,
and you take advantage.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Of that situation. That's what Josh Job did.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
He did something that only Woollen has done this year
and Julian Love, which is trade to turnover through the air,
intercepting the football. You have to let him fight for
this job. So I think he does that true competition.
I think Trey Brown has the upper hand because they
probably trust him more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
He's got more snaps with his team. He was getting
playing time for reason.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
But when a backup gets on that football field and
makes a play, you might be congratulating them, but in
the back of your mind, you're like, I gotta get
to work.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:05:09):
I think this competition is different. I think the competition
is there, and what I mean by that is there.
There's times when they say there's competition, but you can
be a starter and have a bad game and still
start right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
I think Trey Brown's at that point.

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
No, He's just he it's his job if he plays
to his ability, because he's played good football.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
He's only had really one bad game and that was
it was a giant game.

Speaker 7 (01:05:34):
He's played good football. He plays to his ability. Trey
Brown's that's your job. But you don't get to rest
on your laurels anymore. You know, you've got to go
out and play good football. Because Pritchett has shown he's
played well. Certainly Job has played well also, but you
know they've also had their moments.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Do you like more Joe's.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
They're different kind of players. It's funny that there was
a big play in the game last week. Job didn't slip.
He was in the guy's hip pocket. He might have
ended up being a big play, like twenty yards past
him because he fell, but the way he mirrored the
route told me something. I think they're just different players.

(01:06:14):
I think Job gets the football part. You know, he's
a more veteran guy. He's played at a top level
for a long time and so.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
It's pretty too at obviously Auburn, but Job played at Alabama.
I mean, I just think the coaching on that he
just gets football.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
Like that interception he got, he opened up, I mean
he opened up on that slant route, but he immediately
popped his hand in that chest and which by doing that,
he then could push himself back to clear his hips
to run back down the line of screamage for that interception. Man,
that's experience, that's just knowing how to play football.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
So they're they're different. I think Job though, is shown
that he's playing better football right now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah, it's it's interesting. Competition is good though, Yeah, very good.
I think it's good. Especially in that room. Is all right,
let's go, let's go to DK Metcalf. DK Metcalf is
more important to this offense than people think.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Well, I'm one of those who would agree with that,
because last week.

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):
I was hopeful that Gino would say, Okay, I don't
have to force it for one play, we don't have
to design so many plays. I'm just gonna go do
because I've seen it from Gina before. I'm just gonna
take what the defense gives me. I'm gonna spread it
around but this offense, our explosive plays come from DK
right now, KA and we are we're too fragile of

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an offense and a team not to get those big plays,
not to pull a defense over to DK that we
can design plays away. That game at least showed how
important DK is to this offense.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
I was talking to our producer of NASA at dinner,
and I said, a big time receiver is a necessary eason.
A big time receiver is not gonna be the final
piece to put you over the top and win a
Super Bowl, but you can tell when he's not there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
You feel it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
The space the game is more congested that you're not
putting pressure on the safeties a receiver and now they're
getting paid thirty thirty five million dollars and you're gonna
have to make a decision about DK. And I think
sometimes you don't know what you got till it's gone.
And last week we saw that because there was no
one who can stretch the football field. You had a
nice what seventeen eighteen yard game up to seam to

(01:08:36):
a tight end, but of the presence of a six three,
two hundred and thirty something four to three running out
there just puts a different type of pressure on a defense.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I watch corners just sit on routes.

Speaker 8 (01:08:47):
Sit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I'm at six yards, I'm gonna sit here because you're
not faster than me. You can't beat me over the top,
and that just that closes the window. So I think
people figured it out. If they haven't figured it out,
listen to us right now. Will tell you that you
need a DC a type of receiver out there. The
question is are you willing to pay for it, because
receivers now the last three or four years are getting paid.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
Yeah, he's gonna get paid.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Yeah, somewhere else, Well he's gonna get I think, ob
here think so.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Well, look after last week how important it is to
this offense? I think so, Now that's an offseason deal.
Let's just get to the playoffs and win. I got
one more kind of ties into this, all right, because
last week, Wow, we didn't have.

Speaker 7 (01:09:26):
Any exposed plays over the top. There were I think
it was one of the first passes.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
It was open and Geno didn't Jeno tried to force
an end route in between the couple.

Speaker 7 (01:09:37):
But there was actually one. It might have been Tyler,
I don't know who. The other wide receiver he was open,
but it's forcing Gino to make perfect decisions in that situation.
So my question is, does Gino need to play his
best game of the year for the Hawks to win this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Sunday best his game of the year. I think that
Gino needs to have the best game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
To me, when you talk about Gino, it's not three
hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
It's throwing the ball twenty five thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Times Atlanta two hundred and fifty yards, two touchdowns, and
get a whole bunch of first downs and just move it.
That's the That's Gino's best game to me, because when
he has all those attempts, when he has to throw
for the three into fifty yards.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
What does that mean? Run game ain't there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
So I don't think he needs to have his best
game statistically. He will have other games where it looks
better on paper. His best game to me is a
control type of game where he's putting pressure just enough
pressure on that defense to open things up. But Grubb
has allowing him to hand the football off. So no,
he doesn't need to have the game of the year statistically.
Decision making wise.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
He needs to be on point yeah, I think you're
right there too. I think statistically right, it didn't have
to be I don't need him four or five touchdowns,
you know, three hundred and fifty yards. I actually would
like for him to throw under thirty passes. Yeah, that
is a recipe for success because we are running it,
and that means we're probably in the lead as well.
I think you're right. I think he has to make
really good decisions. So it's like that one.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
I mean that there's a guy open that he's got
to find. If he's got time, he's got to make
that really good decision and a good throw. I think
Gino's only had one off game, really an off game
there San Francisco. He missed some throws high, I mean,
but other than that, I mean he's he's a very
accurate passer. I thought last week, you know, maybe he

(01:11:32):
tried to force a couple of things that he got
away with.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
So I think he needs to make his best decision game.
He needs to be really accurate.

Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
Yeah, I don't think just statistic, because here's the thing.
If everybody else doesn't help him, it's a new point, right.
I mean, we don't play good defense if our line
doesn't give time. If we don't run good routes, if
we don't run the football, man, this ain't it's not
gonna be on Gino.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Gino's not that guy. He's not that superman. He's capable,
but let's not put that on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
All right there, it is talk that talk. Me and Moyer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Man, we're we're starting to agree more in our old age.
We've done this for a while, We've been together for
a while. You know, I think we would just finished
the other sentences, and you know we just know each
other too well. All right, when we come back, we
will give you our final thoughts and keys to the
game that's next right here on Hawks Live.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Seattle Sports.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Last segment for a Hawks Live every Thursday. We are
right here at bellv Square Center Court on Michael Bumpus
with Paul Moyer. My kids went trigger treating today. Moyer,
my oldest son. I thought this would be his life.
I thought he was done tricker treating. He's a freshman now.
But apparently they just traveling groups. It's different now because
now he's not chicker treating with mom. He's with his

(01:12:53):
boys now and they're traveling around and I'm tracking them
on his on GPS and making sure he's not where
he's not supposed to be. And he was Batman.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
And my daughter was some character from an animated movie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
I should know. She showed me this morning, gave me
a whole rundown. And then my middle child was a dinosaur,
one of the big ones.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
That you that in flight. And I go, it's gonna
be so hard for you to get around, and he
was committed, No, Dad.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
I'm gonna do it. I go, all right, man, but
it's gonna be hard for you to get around. So
I can't wait to see or to hear how his
his journey was because I was gonna be tough. My
favorite costume that I was I was My dad was
a marine, so I had him send me some of
his old fatigue and I put all the makeup on
and stuff the EyeBlack and all that, and I was
I was a soldier. I think that was like sixth

(01:13:41):
or seventh grade. That was my favorite costume. What was
your favorite costume?

Speaker 7 (01:13:46):
You know, we didn't we didn't have a lot of
money growing up. You know, my dad had a good
job and we lived in a nice area. Don't get
me wrong, but you know, they they stretched for us
to live there. Now, so my mom would make stuff.
I mean at the time, I was just going like
a hobo, you know, it's just that kind of thing. Yeah,
I mean I was just like, we wouldn't we didn't.
I mean, you cut out sheets. I mean, there was

(01:14:07):
no going to a storm buying. Yeah, an outfit back then.
I do my probably my biggest memory and where I
grew up in California. I mean, you know, howling was
huge because you just you're out of streets, it's flat,
it's good weather.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
I mean, you could not wait. But I remember I
was about fourteen to maybe fifteen, maybe too old, maybe
thirteen whatever, that age where yeah, you probably.

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
Shouldn't go trick or treating anymore, but I'm gonna do
it anyways, and I wanted to go. My dad was
you know, they all went together, the families, you know,
they took their you know, hot toddies and things and
their mugs.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
And this year, my dad didn't want to go, and
he's like, you look, son, come on, he goes.

Speaker 7 (01:14:47):
I'll go buy you twenty five dollars worth of candy. Now,
twenty five dollars worth of candy. I'm not gonna Fifty
years ago. Fifty years ago, forty eight years ago was
a I would have been a big bag of big
candy bars too, like you know, the supreme ones.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
And uh, I said, no, Dad, I'm going, I'm going.
And I got, you know, just nothing good. You know,
you lay them out.

Speaker 7 (01:15:12):
My have to is sorting it and then getting to
your siblings and trade. And I mean that was a
ritual back then.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
Yeah, I miss it. I miss going with my kids.

Speaker 7 (01:15:21):
I got grandkids now, so next year I probably won't
be here for Halloween because they're my oldest now is
gonna be about four.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
The other ones are gonna be two. It's kind of
a fun age.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
I teach my kids about taxes on Halloween. Lay your
candy out. I'm the government. Give me some of that.
Give me about twenty to thirty percent of that right now.

Speaker 7 (01:15:42):
And they're the ones that say, yeah, I'm not those
are tips. I'm not claiming them.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Hide that ten percent?

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
How do they get it done? This week? It's gonna
be tough.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
The Rams always play the Hawks, Well they always it
could be a back arterback. The quarterback can be hurt.
It could be Todd Gurley back there. It doesn't matter.
I've seen just many dark days and my eight years
covering this team. When it comes to the Rams. What
is it about the Rams? It doesn't matter who the
coach is. They just find a way to get it done.

Speaker 7 (01:16:14):
Well, yeah, I mean McVeigh, it matters. Look, I mean
it's their scheme. I mean, their schemes tough. I mean
you got to prep for it. Look, we got really
smart coaches in the NFC West, I mean Shanahan and McVeigh.
I was hoping Ivyble to retire at thirty four years old,
or however old he is.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
He's young.

Speaker 7 (01:16:30):
It's going to be tough the way to do this
one because I'm again I'm more worried about our confidence
than our ability. You know, if we get behind early,
it's that, oh no, here it goes again. Even though
we've done a really good job for the most part
of them last week in the second half to get
back into games, have chance to win on the final drive.
We've done that in every game, you know, for the
for the most part of them, last week. But I

(01:16:53):
think this is one of those. We need some easy,
fast break points. We need, you know, explosively. You know,
fifteen play drives eighty yards really tough to do. We
can't give up seventeen play that we got to get
to turn the ball was on the ground twice last week.
We got to get those. We got to get them
the third down more often. We got to win those

(01:17:15):
first second down mixed down situations and get them in
their legit third down situation because I believe we cover well.
I believe we have good pass rushers inside and outside.
So I mean, it's just fundamental football. I mean, it's
it's simple, but it's hard, and we got to just
get back to let's do it good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
That's simple even though it's hard. We just got to
make it look simple.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I need the receivers to make some tough catches, some
tough plays.

Speaker 8 (01:17:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
I think there are times where they have made some
tough catches.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
But you look at the elite teams who pass the football,
and statistically the Hawks are an elite team that pass
the football, number one passing offense in the game. But
I need DK to go up and take it off
somebody's helmet. I need JSN to make a catch on
the sideline on a third down when you really need it,
need tie the locket a goal across the middle, catch it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
You can get down, roll for a couple more yards
if you need to get it. Just the tough plays, man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
I think that's what separates the good passing games and
the great passing games, is you make a catch that
you're not supposed to make. And when you can do that,
the quarterback trusts you a bit more and maybe you
take a few more chances. I don't need Geno to
be reckless with the football, but when you play the Rams,
there's gonna be a drive or a moment where you

(01:18:35):
need this and the dB is gonna be on your
hip and you got to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Make a play. And I think we missed a couple
of those the past few weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:18:44):
I think defensively, man, just do your job, do your
job and it's there. It's not effort. Right now, it's again,
I'm in the sea gap. I think the running backs
looks like you're going to be getting the beat. No,
you got to stay in the sea gap. You got
to count on your there. Once it's in the that
spot where it can't come back your way, then you

(01:19:05):
can go do that. And we got to start making
just some place. The first drive that Buffalo had, we
should have been off the field twice.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
I mean those are the moments, are those big moments
in the game. We just got to start. We gotta
start getting so it's a big game, though. I'm nervous
about this one, which is a good sign. You know.

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
Sometimes you're confident we're gonna play well, it doesn't play.
I'm nervous about this game because of the confidence. I'm
not in the meeting room. I'm not a practice every day.
They're confident, they're practiced, they're.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Ready for this game.

Speaker 7 (01:19:38):
I'll tell you one thing. I will challenge this though,
and it's a problem. We have lost home field advantage. Yeah,
the twelves, the ones that were there are doing the
best they can. We've given up our seats. I'm gonna
tell you for those stop selling your tickets because the
visiting stands. It is completely the visitors now, and it's

(01:20:02):
we never had that before. You go look at a
Pittsburgh game, you don't see another color. It's all black
and gold. You go to Green Bay, it's Green Bay fan,
a little you know, smattering there that used to be here.
You'd see a little bit of forty.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
Nine er fans.

Speaker 7 (01:20:17):
You see maybe a Buffalo Buffalo bill fan Ironde and look,
they got great fans, but they don't travel that far.
There's no way they don't have a base here. We
used to dominate other stadiums when we went on the road.
I'm shocked, man, I'm disheartened by it. I don't know
what you do about. I'm saying, I think it's an

(01:20:38):
off season thing that the Seeouks are going to need
to look at because guess there's no guarantee you get
your tickets. I mean, I'm looking at those corporations. It's
become a problem and you should not allow it. And
one way we do that, Seahawks get the lead and
just yell from beginning to the end. Make this a
college atmosphere again, because it's we got to get that back.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Drop the Michael on that one right there, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Special thanks to Kenny mac and Tosh Kavon Wallace for
joining the show. Our board operator Max Strobel, on site engineer,
Matt Nelson, production assistant, Ashley Oaks, an executive producer is
Nasa Chovid. The Seahawks pregame show is live this Sunday
starting at ten am. Until next time, I'm Michael Bubbas
Paul Moyer. This has been Hawks Live.

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