Hawks Live With Nick Bellore, Jake Bobo And More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue
Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven
to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
If you're your hosts Michael Bumpis and.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Paul Moyer, Welcome to Hawks Live.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'm Michael Bumpus with my guy Paul Moyer.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Every Thursday.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
We are right here on sevent ten live from Bellevy
Square Center Court.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hi, guys, feeling got a live crowd here.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
We got about a thousand people here right now that
I'm looking at and they are ready to go. Moyer,
It's it's been a while. You and I have missed
each other for a few weeks. The show just ain't
the same without you.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Man, I gotta turn my mic on.

Speaker 6 (00:47):
I'm back, yes, so as you know me, I got
my second granddaughter, so I'm had had to miss you
guys last week.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
But good to see everybody.

Speaker 6 (00:55):
And obviously disappointing loss last week as well as we played,
and but it good to be back with you. Bump
and Miss I mean you you missed a little bit
with us a couple.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
Of weeks ago because you were coaching, and you know,
I've been out of town. Now we're back the squads.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
But we both took a W. You got a W
with a grandchild. I got a W on the football field.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Can I tell that story in town?

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Can I tell that story?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Go?

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Do it?

Speaker 6 (01:17):
So about two or three weeks ago, which he never misses.
This guy is the hardest working guy in this business.
He does PAC twelve on Saturday nights, and he's got
a we can have a seven.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
Am game and he's got to catch either.

Speaker 6 (01:30):
A late flight or sometimes a six am flight if
it's a home game.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
So he's all over the country.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
So it's a Thursday night that we're gonna do Hawks
Live and I get a call from our producer now saying,
he goes, hey, do you mind hosting the show? I go, man,
what's going on? He goes, you know, Bump's got a
Thursday night football game with Roosevelt, and he really feels
like he's got to be there for them to win.
They win seventy to seven.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I go, no, twenty, it was twenty seventy to twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Yeah, but it was seventy to seven at the time.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
You guys gave up. I go you needed to be
there for them to win? And he goes, yeah, you know,
I may have overplayed that hand, but but glad we're together.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
I just you respect the opponent, just like every opponent
has to respect the Seattle Seahawks. Just like the Seahawks
have to respect the Bengals. Last week, right seventeen to thirteen,
they take an l.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
There.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Now, I'm I think you and I are on the
same page when it comes to losses. We're not okay
with losses. We don't take a loss and say, oh,
it's okay, but we tried hard. You look at the
loss and say, man, they were so close. Man if
they did this, if this happened, and you replayed in
your mind, and you say, there's an avenue to where
these guys win.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
This ball game.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
When I look at this game, oiler, I think the
obvious is right.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
You get into the.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Red zone, you don't score one for five in the
red zone, you say goal to goal.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
They were what are you say that?

Speaker 5 (02:52):
One for four?

Speaker 6 (02:55):
It's all so you know, if you're inside the ten
yard line, it's or whatever it may be. Sometimes you
get a penalty and it's first and goal from the twenty,
but it's it's goal to go.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
So there's no way.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
To get a first down other than a penalty, and
we were one for four in that situation and basically
inside the ten yard line. You know, I look at
this game and there's many games that we've been on
the road where you go.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Ah, we could have won that game. This is one
we should have won. This game. We were better than Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
We played really well on both sides of the ball,
particularly defensively. I mean we're starting to play lights out
and particularly our front seven is really becoming chaotic for teams.
I think our secondary secondary is really locked in and coverage.
We've got playmakers all over the board, and outside of
their first two drives, we completely shut them down. It

(03:46):
was a game that you look back and you go,
Gino played well.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
He's kind of taken.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Some heat heat.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
Which is crazy because he played well other than five plays.
You know, you'd always have your your best game, but
when you the quarterback in key moments, you know, we
had two fourth down plays, you know, inside the red
zone that we took sacks on and then he missed
on one play that I know he's kicking himself, and
the team was like, we designed this play and JSM

(04:14):
was wide open. I think it was the second to
last drive. We might have been the last drive, and
we end up getting it first. He ended up scrambling
and getting a first down. But it's a play that
we were struggling inside the red zone. We needed to
make a big play outside the red zone for a touchdown.
But I thought it was We actually might have been
our best game we played on both sides of the

(04:35):
football statistically, how we dominated that game after the first
couple of drives, we just couldn't get it in the
end zone.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, that I do was show a daily show bumping
Stacey Tennant too.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
You guys got nothing to do a lunch time, come
holler at me.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
And for a week I've been kind of defending Gino,
and I've gotten so much heat from people.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
And I ask these people, I.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Go, all right, well, when you watch the football game right,
you're watching it from the TV perspective to where all
you see is the quarterback, the lineman, and maybe some
backers depending on their drops. And I always tell people,
I go, well, if you have the means, it's not free,
go and get the NFL game pass and watch the
all twenty two because then you're able to see what's

(05:19):
going on on the back end? Our receivers open or
they covered what's going on. I'm not saying Gino played
a perfect game. There were a couple of times where
guys were open, but you look at the all twenty
two and guys are locked up, and then you look
at the offensive lineman's.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
There were some protection problems.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Gino did make some bad decisions and l is and
l But what I do like about Geno is that
when he steps in front of the mic, he's gonna
say the right thing nine out of ten times, even
if it's not the true thing. He's gonna say the
right thing nine out of ten times. And was yoas say,
I'm a thumb guy, I'm a pointed to me, and
you should as the quarterback because most of the time,
as a quarterback, you are the highest paid.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Guy on the team.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
You are the guy I was going to get most
of the glory. So when things go bad, you got
to take it on the chin. And that's what I appreciate.
I appreciate about Geno is that you take it on
the chin. But there are some things that this offense
needs to do to get right. When you look at
this offense, and you look at that game last week,
what sticks out to the most.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
Well, again, I'm gonna just stay on the defensive side.
One of the best games we've played in a couple
of years. Draymond Jones played unbelievable, Jaron Reid played unbelievable,
Mario Edwards incredible. Our front seven has been disruptive and
it's something we haven't seen in a few years.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
And we've gotten a little.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Smaller on the front with our front our defensive lineman,
but we're so quick now that they have to account
for us, and they got to double team us. And again,
sometimes Draymond Jones on the nose just off shaded to
our center. Sometimes it's Sharon Reid our secondary. We can
lock up Witherspoon. Witherspoon was on Chase all day. Matter

(07:01):
of fact, it really wasn't that close. I mean Chase
was trying to I think he got really frustrated because
Witherspoon can cover. He matched up extremely well. So defensively
we got game. Offensively, it really just came down to
about four or five plays and Gino played well. Other
than two or three decisions. The two interceptions, the first

(07:22):
one at JSN. You know, It's just it was one
of those I just felt like when he forced it,
he was covered, and two wasn't a great throw. We
had a kind of a wheel route by our tight
end that would have got us in within the five
yard or inside the five yard line. The second interception
to DK, I'm putting this on DK two Now, that
was a lazy route.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
It was lazy, and I'm not you know, DK.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
I know everybody's on him like he's an aggressive guy,
but he's also the second highest or third highest paid
player on the team. Man, there's no plays off in
this game, and you got to protect your quarterback.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Now, when I didn't feel like he did.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
Protect his quarterback, I agree, but I'm here the real
he was.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Man.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Cincinnati's pass defense is one of the best ones I've seen,
the way that they matched up in the zone defense
and then they locked it into man demand. So they
immediately took away our short stuff. The safeties knew our
routes with our wide receivers, so even though there were
some mismatches with our wide receivers downfield, on their safeties,

(08:22):
they ran the route for us. So this is the
NFL is about adjustments. Shane Waldron in the offense. They
knew your routes and you're gonna have to make some
adjustments from that.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
It wasn't every time. It's just the.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
Times when we did break down and coverage where we
had a really good route combination, it didn't allow to develop.
Other times when we had time, they weren't great route
combinations and we were covered all over the board.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
I thought we.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Dominated this game. We played Cincinnati ten times. I think
we win eight of them. We win every one of
them at home. We should have won that game. Really
came down to us just not scoring in the red zone. Yeah,
I would love to have kicked two field goals on
fourth down. Hindsight is twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
We know that.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
At the time, I got why we went for it.
You look back now how well our defense was playing.
Maybe just get within a field goal because it was
getting so hard. But I think we're playing really good football.
We out to win our next two games, and we
got Arizona. I don't even know who we play out
never mind. We had to win our next game and
then we got a hunker down the week after. But

(09:26):
we got two games at home. We need the twelves
to show up and get to what five and two.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yep, and the twelves are going to show up, and
I'll focus more on the offensive side and what I
saw and what I liked, what I didn't like. What
I did like is that I feel like Jaysen is
really close to having himself a big game.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's been a development.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
My man has surgery, he breaks his wrists, he's playing
with a cast. All that matters. Trust you, I'm a receiver.
All that stuff matters. Okay, not making excuses is painting
the picture for you to what he's dealing with. Also,
once you get down into the red zone, if we
decide to go two by two, three by one, spread
them out. I just want to see receivers on the slot.
I don't want to see tight ends. Yeah, all right,

(10:07):
you get down into the red zone. The field is
shrunken down. There's only so many places you can go.
Let's get some guys who can run some true, precise
routes in there to get Geno some more options. Also,
I want to see Zach sharpnet down there. He had
two carries for five yards. I think once you get
down there, man, you got to use him.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Now. Late in the game he was used.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
With more in the pass pro situation. So what that
tells me is that he is a smart guy. You
don't just put any random running back back there in
pass pro situation because there's gonna be twists and stunts
by that line. He's got to pick him up. Travis
Homer was the best at that for a while. That's
why he hung around for three or four years, because
he can pick up in pass pro. But what I
did like down there is that I see what Shane

(10:51):
is trying to do with his creativity. Now it's about
executing and being able to adjust once the defense is
doing something that you're not expecting to see. And uh,
and again he's a he's a young coordinator, three years
in a game, and I think he's done a good
job so far. But games like last week are the
games that allow you to grow. Right, if everything's easy,

(11:11):
are you really growing? Are you just calling plays?

Speaker 6 (11:14):
NFL is a tough game, man, and they're smart guys,
and they make adjustment. Cincinnati is one of the smarter
defenses we had faced. We're gonna have Jake Bobo at
eight o'clock here, nineteen.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Let's go and Bobo.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
My one thing was what was I saying during the game,
I why isn't Bobo in the red zone.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
I need more Bobo. So we're gonna talk to.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
Him when he comes on, and uh, we're gonna get
a win this week.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
All right, we'll get the win this week.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
And coming up next we'll preview the week seven opponent,
the Arizona Cardos.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
That is next right here on Hawks.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
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Speaker 4 (11:56):
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Speaker 3 (12:00):
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Speaker 4 (12:01):
Seven every Thursday right here on Seattle Score seventeen, broadcasting
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fans in all of the land. Thanks for joining us
here today. Man, it's time to break down the Arizona Cardinals. Now,
I know, I know you're gonna hear the Cardinals and
things look no Kyler Murray James Connor has heard Buddha Baker.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Buddha's heard that he might be back.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Though he might be back this week, they are they
put him on the ir Okay well, hey, Buddha practice today,
so he might be back.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Well, look, you know me, he's a Bellevue kid.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
So I love Buddha, but I don't want him to
play this week because he's a legit player.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Man, he's one of the best safety.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Here's one thing I've known more for about seven years now.
Whenever he has a chance of making about him, he's
gonna do that. What about he said I coached him?

Speaker 5 (12:49):
At did I say I coached him? You also said,
you know the reason I coached him?

Speaker 6 (12:55):
He's in the NFL and he's he's a Pro Bowl.
I didn't say that. You would just assume, Okay, hey, hey,
you know what, it's a good assumption.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
That's my fault, though, I apologize. I apologize. Hey, but
let's break down these cargos.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
They're one in five right now.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
They have the fifteenth ring offense in the league, but
there are number six. When it comes to running the football,
they might not. They're not gonna have James Conna obviously
this week against the pass, we'll passing the football. They're
twenty six one hundred and ninety yards through the air.
Points per game. They are twentieth averaging nineteen point five.
Those are numbers. We understand the numbers. Let's talk about

(13:30):
the players now. The one they're missing. Their franchise quarterback
Kyler Murray is gone. He's he tours ACL last year.
He should be back in like three or four weeks.
I think they're assuming you got Josh Dobbs over there.
My man will turn the football over in the fourth quarter.
It's got a lot of turnovers as of laid in
the fourth quarter. You respect everybody, but you feel like
this is a quarterback you should be able to get after.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yeah. I mean his numbers are good.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
He's competing about sixty three percent of his passes and
he's got six touchdowns, three interceptions. They've been competitive one
to five. It's a divisional game. They've had our number
up here in Seattle a bunch of times. Whi's killing
them as the fourth quarter? Yeah, I mean they've been
outscored sixty four to seven in the fourth quarter. That's
a crazy number. They were in it against San Francisco.

(14:14):
So when you go and look at their games first
game of the season, they lose twenty to sixteen to
I can't to He's hard me say. The Commanders to
Washington at that time on the road, they lose to
the Giants where they were killing them. They should have
beat them. They lose in a heartbreaking game thirty one
to twenty eight. The Giants only win this year, they
blow out basically Dallas and Dallas. At that time, everybody thought, Wow,

(14:38):
they're unbeatable. That's they've come back to the pack. They
play the forty nine ers tough up into the fourth
quarter and they get beating the fourth quarter. They end
up losing thirty five sixteen, and then it kind of
made a slide since they lost to the Cincinnati Bengals
at actually at home thirty four to twenty. Played well.
I mean I was watching that game and I go, so,

(15:00):
while these guys they played hard, they're young. They've got
to get the players down. And then last week I
felt like was the first game and they took a
step back. And that's mainly because you know, they're starting
to have a little bit of their injury bug. They
don't have the depth, and they got beat at the
Rams twenty six to nine.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
No question.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
You know, look, just a game that we should win.
But it's a defense that gets after you. They do
a lot of weird hybrid stuff. They got eighteen sacks
on the year, so we got to be aware of that. Yeah,
we could lose, but it's a game we should win.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yep. I agree.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
They do some things. Every team in the NFL will
do some things that will challenge you. Right, there's no
teams even like the teams that threatened to lose every
game in the season every what five to ten years.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
They still do some things that you got to prepare for. Now.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
I look at this offense, and we mentioned Josh Dobbs
over there, the young man from Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I believe he went to He is like a.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Rocket science, is one of the smartest dudes in the league.
And then I look at the guys that he's throwing
the rock too. You got Marquis Brown and Michael Wilson
from Stanford. All right, now, Michael Wilson is one of
the best route runners in this rookie class, but not
really explosive. Marku's Brown. Excuse me, it's one of the
more explosive players that they have over there. On offense.

(16:18):
There's always something a team does to try to exploit you.
I look at the Seahawk defense and I go, how
do you match up against these wide receivers. You just
shut down Jamar Chase. For the most part, Trey Brown
had to pick against Jamar Chase. Did you guys see
the back and forth with Jamar Chase and Devin Wetherspoon
on social media, Oh, I love it.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Devin Witherspoon ain't backing down from nobody.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
And he backed it up and he sure did back
by the way, Chase was quietet.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Well, Chase was quiet during the game.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
He responded on social media, and then my guy, Devin
Witherspoon said, don't act like I.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Didn't have you in a box.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Oh, he had a box.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
He had him in a box.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
He I don't want to say, completely owned him. But
he didn't get anything on Witherspoon. Yeah, that one deep
the one where we were there's a penalty and they
threw that deep comeback and that was on Reek Wilson,
will excuse me. And then there was actually I think
most of them were on Woolen and they had you know,
I think again Witherspoon had three passes defense. Look in

(17:19):
the past, a mobile quarterback with a good tight end
because they still have zach Ertz who's older.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
But you know he's still a crafty guy.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
You got Marquis Brown, Michael Wilson, Michael Wilson's average and
seventeen point six yards per catch, so you know that.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
I just look, we that is our game now.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
We've got speed on the outside edges and we've got
depth there. We've got speed inside, so it's hard for
quarterbacks to break the pocket and scramble on us. We
can match up at both corners. We got a nickel
when we want. Trey Brown's playing well too, so when
we put Witherspoon in and the nickel, Ah, we're a

(17:55):
tough team to beat on defense right now.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
So what you saying, though there's a chance, there's a chance.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Much for Arizona, I don't think they're going to score much.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Say a chance for us.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
No, there's a good chance. We just gotta we gotta
get right on offense. And I really think every time
Gino's taken a little bit of adversity, we hadn't played
his best and him again, he didn't play poorly last week,
just the big moments we didn't come up with something,
and they weren't all his fault.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
They weren't.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
He's always bounced back, always bounced back.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Well, all right, real quick.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
The Cardinals have lost to the Commanders twenty to sixteen,
the Giants thirty one to twenty eight. They beat Dallas,
They lost to San Francisco thirty five to sixteen, and
then they lost.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
To the Bengals thirty to forty twenty.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Last week they lost to the Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Twenty six to nine. A weird type of team.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Good enough to be in some games, but then eventually
when things start to break down, like you mentioned, sixty
four to seven. Be now scored in the fourth, got
Josh Dobbs turned the football.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Over in the fourth.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
All I'm saying is that, look, you can't win it
in the first, you can't win in the second, you
can't win the but you know what you went in
the fourth.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Let's go ahead and do that. Let's get it.

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Speaker 3 (19:17):
That is next right here on Hawkslide.

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Speaker 3 (19:32):
Welcome to Hawks Live.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
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Speaker 3 (19:48):
Nick Bloor. What's up man?

Speaker 5 (19:49):
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Speaker 2 (19:54):
Were good good?

Speaker 4 (19:55):
I love hey man, what are your Thursday nights like?
I mean, you've been in the league a long time, man,
you know you're you're ancient when it comes to NFL guys.
Thankfully Peters is on the team now to kind of
take that title from you, but a Thursday nights like
for you when you're not talking to us?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, thank god we got a forty one year old
on the team. Now, well things are a little different.
I just said to hand the baby off to my wife.
I was holding her for a little bit. So you
guys caught me probably. Well, I'm thirty four now, so
I got about thirty minutes and then I'm going to bed.
So I'd say that's the thing that changed, you know,

(20:36):
from my rookie year. I always laughed though, thinking back,
because it never really changes, because you know, the season
gets long, you have the long days, you're tired, and
as you get older you feel the aches and everything.
But you know, you get in your routine. And for me,
I've got two kids now, so I try to help
as much as I can when I get home, and

(20:56):
then you know, by the time about eight o'clock rolls around, uh,
you know you're ready for bed. So it's it's not
quite the glamorous NFL life you know you see on
TV or something.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
So pretty pretty glamorous.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
First of all, congratulations on your new child there, man,
that's that's exciting. Yes, my son had a he's thirty two.
He had his child last week and he's a week
into it. He's he's crying, how much sleepy he's not
getting and he doesn't have to get up and go
to practice. But the question I want to ask you, Nick,
is you were in New York at the time, and

(21:32):
your your wife goes into labor. And my guess is
that was a I don't know if it was a
tough decision, but my conflicting for you is, you know,
you want to play for the team and your guys
and also be home for the delivery of your baby.
Can you just share how that whole decision went down
for you?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, it was a little weird because so I wake
up on Monday morning to a knock at the door.
So I assume I'd slept through like a walk through
or something, and I kind of wake up and the
door opens, and uh, you know, I hear a voice
that says, hey, Nick, your wife's water broke. Uh, and

(22:13):
then the door shuts and I'm thinking of myself, I'm like,
what the hell is going on? So I look at
my phone. I've got miss calls and everything, and then,
you know, I call my wife, Rachel, and she was
due two weeks. She was due two days after the
Bengals game here, so luckily my mom was in town.
But we weren't really prepared for, you know, that to

(22:34):
go down like that. You know, the baby comes when
I wants to. So we were talking and then you know,
obviously I go downstairs It's kind of weird because you
have your game day routine and everything, and you know,
talk to the coaches and they were, you know, super
supportive and they're like, yeah, we got to find a
way for you to get home in time, so which

(22:55):
I appreciated because that's kind of a weird thing is
there's no hard and fast rule with that stuff. So
and you know, it's one of those things you feel
weird leaving, but also you know, yeah, you know, I'd
like to think I have a bearing on the game,
but I don't want to feel that self important that,

(23:15):
you know, oh if I'm not there, you know, we're
not going to win or whatever. So they got the flight.
I got on the plane. It was kind of surreal
just leaving, you know, before the game like that, got
home right to the hospital, and then our baby was born,
you know, probably right as the game was ending. So

(23:36):
it was kind of a crazy situation. And of course
we're in New York, so it was about as far
as can be. But I was just very lucky to
get home in time and to be there for it,
and you know, lucky, I'm you know, part of a
franchise and a team that would you know, support a
guy doing that.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Now, that's awesome and again congratulations. So I'm going to
ask you a follow up question, is we've had these
conversations the old days when we played, is like, look
your old school, Yeah you know what, you know, I'll
the child won't know I wasn't there for the delivery.
I'm playing right, and then the world the game's changed now.
But but a bunch of guys said, I said, well,

(24:16):
what if it was a super Bowl? And I remember
Max Strong said, well that's different. I'm gonna throw it
at you. I go, what if it was the Super Bowl?
Would that have changed you at all? Or you still
that no matter what, Hey, I'm going to be there
for the delivery.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I'm trying to gauge how I'm in. I'm in our
bedroom with the door clothes. I'm trying to get my
wife here.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
But they're always listening, Nick, you know that, they always listening.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Now I know I'm gonna I'm probably gonna have to
miss the birth for that one, I think, but it
would be it would be tough. But yeah, the super Bowl,
you get to you know, you can you figure it out.
I suppose, but you tell your.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Wife we're introducing we're inducing a week before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
Honey, we can't take a chance on that one.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes, exactly, Hey, I.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Got I got a couple questions for you, maybe three,
depending on how your answer these right.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
One when they flew you back, was it first class?
Was it economy or was it a private jet?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I was.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I was kind of middle of the plane, middle seats,
so it was uh. I had to fight for elbows
on both sides. So uh, you guys, the two guys
I sat with were a little stingy with the elbow room.
But I'd like to but you know, I had some
uh you know, I was ready for the game that night,
so I was I think I had a little caffeine

(25:42):
in my system, and I was kind of bumping them
off of them. But it's a yeah, that's a that's
a long flight. But I was, you know, I was
trying to figure out how to get the game on
my phone the whole way home because it started probably
halfway through the flight, but couldn't get it. So I
had about three different people texting me updates of what
was going on and stuff. So it was kind of

(26:04):
kind of a surreal experience.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
There you go, a certain dominance. That's what you got
to do in those situations. My next question is are
you a girl dad or you got two boys.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Recently? A girl dad? So May was just born here
and then my son Luke turns three in a week
here or no, not on Sunday. Actually, so I got
one of each. So I would like to think that
we are probably done because I see some of my
buddies that have three, four or five kids that I
can't even fathom it.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Well, I got three.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
There's no man coverage with three kids. Man, you got
to play that zone and keep a hand on the swovel.
The one thing I can I can tell you, Nick,
is that I don't know if this is who you
are already, but once you have that girl, man, we
just get soft.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Man, I'm so soft now. Well, my boy, I'm rub
some dirt on it. Get out there and keep playing
my daught.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I go.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Look, if anybody messages with you at school today, I
will come pick you up and we will make this right.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, you got some good things look forward to.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah that's what I hear. So it's still early, but
I can kind of feel, you know, I need the
least amount of softening I can get while I'm still playing.
But yeah, no, it's you can definitely tell it's different.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
Nick, what a career. I mean, you're at Central Michigan, Mat.
I was reading up some of your stats there, second
longest start streaking Central Michigan University history at fifty one games.
You played linebacker, you know, you're all conference, and then
you end up you've played a bunch of things. You
played fullback, you've played linebacker, your special teams captain man.

(27:40):
Just from when you were done to be thirty four
years old still playing in the NFL. Any dream of that,
I mean, is this beyond your wildest dream?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah? No, I don't think it. I think it would
be weird if I ever thought that I would get
to this point. You know, I think, you know, I
was just concerned about getting a scholarship, and then once
I was in college, I just wanted to play, and
then once I was playing, I just wanted a chance
to play in the NFL, and you know, it's kind
of gone from there. But one of the young guys

(28:13):
was actually asking me, like, you know, before a game,
if it if it ever changes, and it really doesn't.
You know, you get nervous. You feel the same at
before every game, and it really doesn't change from you know,
your first one to whatever game this is for me now.
So you know it's good and bad because sometimes you
wish it would get you know easier, and you know,

(28:35):
you learn things that make things a little bit easier.
But at the end of the day, you know, week
to week, you know, month to month, season of the season,
you have to you know, continually like try to improve
and and you know you're always focusing on like your
routine of things, and you know, kind of keep your
head down. And then you know that day where they

(28:59):
I say it, where they say it's enough, then I'll
kind of pick my head up and be like, oh,
that was pretty cool that I did that. But you know,
as of right now, you know we're in the thick
of it, so you don't really have time to kind
of reflect on stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
I suppose Well, let me take you back twelve years ago.
This is your pre draft measurables. You come out, you're
six foot one two and forty five pounds. You run
a forty yard dash at four to nine. You run
you got a vertical leap of thirty two and a
half inches, you got a bench press, you benched twenty
three reps. Where are you today with some of those

(29:34):
measurables and how has sports science helped you along the way?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, I mean not even science can really help me
with some of that stuff. But I would say I
was pretty happy with this thirty two inch vertical back
in the day because I tend to play below the rim,
so that was that was what it was going to be.
As far as forty and that stuff. I was pretty

(30:02):
much terrified to run that when I was, you know,
at the combine, because you know, I was never like
the fast guy. All the fast guys love running the forty.
But if you're like, you're not really into that, you
never ran track and you just you know, tried to
play fast on the field, you get out there and
I'm like, man, I'm out of my element. And then
it's funny too, because you see, you see the fast

(30:24):
guys before they run a forty, they they do like
the big hops up in the air to get you know,
whatever that does. And I always wanted to do that
because I'm I was slow as hell, So I was like,
I know I should do that. It'll make me faster,
but then you feel stupid because I'm like, I'm gonna
be that guy jumping up in the air and then
running a four to nine. You know, I don't want

(30:44):
to do that. So you know, I just put my
hand down, ran my slow time, and got off the
field as fast as I could. But I'd like to
think I kind of trimmed up a little bit over
the years, So I'd like to say I'm I run
a little bit faster than that now, if that's possible. Maybe,
But you know, some of my teammates might disagree, but

(31:05):
you know, it worked, and I guess fast enough to
keep doing it. So I think just kind of like
working out over the years, and you know, you can
only do so much. So and then I see the
young guys coming in the league. Now, I'm like, you know,
my days are numbered. Every new crop of rookies, You're like,

(31:26):
holy hell, where do these kids come from?

Speaker 5 (31:28):
So yeah, well, mentally you're running a four two. They can't.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
You know, experience is speed, and the nice thing when
you're a veteran at that age, they don't tie me anymore.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, exactly, if I had to start running forties, it's
time to retire. So it's that's what I always say.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Hey, Nick, well, we appreciate you and your time on
a Thursday. Now you think the wife as well. Where
I just had a baby. I know the house is hectic.
You are one of our favorite players and personalities out
here in the Northwest.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Man, the people really appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Have a good night, man, I appreciate it. Back to
diaper duty for me.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
There you go. All right.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
That was Nick blore Man, the linebacker, the full back.
Whatever you need him to do, he will do it
for you. He's a he's a blue collar type of guy.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Man.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
I love players, player man.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
All right, when we come back, we'll go around the NFL.
That is next right on Hawks Live.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
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Speaker 4 (32:33):
Welcome to Hawks Live every Thursday right here on sevent
ten Seattle Sports on Michael Bumpas with Paul Moyer. We
call him Paul Moyer every now and then.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
You know, he got a.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Little swagged, so go check out his his pictures back
when he was playing. I mean, you still got swag now,
but you'll swag back.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
You guys, commented on my gate walking back from the Uh.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Good, you look good.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
You know, you know healthy. Look, last year was rough.
It was a rough back here, man, I was. I
was struggling all through the season.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
I couldn't even invite you to play golf. You said
you have to take a few months off.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
But I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Now you're ready.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
You're gonna give me how many strokes I get four
or five?

Speaker 5 (33:12):
How many I get, how many you need? How many
do you want? Give you whatever you want?

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Give me ten. And we're betting too, so we'll do that.
All right.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Hey, it's time to go around the NFL. What is
going on in the NFL. But let's start at home. Though, Man,
there's a the game has been has changed a lot,
especially back in our day when I played, When you played,
I used to go across the middle and have to
worry about getting my clock knocked off right, keep your
head on a swivel. Catch get down.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Now. You can't hit me.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
If I played in the league today, man, I might
still be playing Belower's thirty four thirty seven. I might
have stretched it out a couple more years. But you
can't hit defensive receivers, it's no targeting, launching, got to
hit the quarterback at a certain area on their body.
And as of late, we had a guy in our quarterback,

(34:08):
Gino Smith go through something and it's called a hip
drop tackle, right, So that's when a guy is being
tackled and you just drop your weight pretty much and
you make the tackle.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
One.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
This is my opinion, and then you tell me yours, Moyer.
I think that football is a violent sport, and I
understand people trying to keep players as safe as possible.
But the object of the game is to get that
man on the ground, and especially when they are a runner.
At that point they have the football in their hands,
it's like, you just get them down. I'm good with
the horse caller, not doing the horse caller, you can

(34:41):
control that, But the hip drop is one that I
feel like is really.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Tough to try and control.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
What are your thoughts on the hip drop and what
are your thoughts on just playing defense in this league
in general?

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Wow, it would be hard, uh you know. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
You used to defend the middle of the field by
saying come across from I'm gona knock your head off.
And the quarterbacks used to protect wide receiver. That's not
the case anymore. That hip drop and it goes back
to the Geno Smith one where he was running out
of bounds and the guy just that he grabs him
by the waist and then he just drops down on him.
I don't love the tackle in the open field. I

(35:19):
really don't. There's some things that aren't natural. I'll tell
you what's not natural. You come across the middle and
it's his own defense. Right the old days, what were
you taught to do if it was his own defense
on a crossing route?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Me as a receiver, yep, you set in space.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
Set it down, Set it down. Why because you're about
to run into a collision. Today they don't care about
that anymore. As matter of fact, they want to clear
you out because they can work some routes behind you, right,
because they don't care about your safety. They say that
the safety is on the defense to protect you.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
That's just weird nowadays.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
So what's not natural for me, if you're not looking,
is to hit you at the knee. That is not natural.
I don't want to blow your knee out. I'm going
to have to. I gotta hit you high. It protects
me and it protects you. But now it's a penalty.
But the hip drop is one of those if a
guy is running downfields, kind of like the horse collar tackle.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
It's a dangerous play.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
The only thing I didn't like about that play on
Gino is as a defensive player, he was running out
of bounds. I could have ran him out of bounds,
and so there's kind of a play where I go,
it's just an unnecessary tackle a defense, I'd run him
out of bounds. As a matter of fact, for me
to do this hip drop, it puts me in a

(36:37):
little bit of danger too, right, May I hurt my knee,
I sprain my ankle, I just ride you out of bounds. Now,
if it's third, fourth and one and I'm trying to
beat you to that thing, I gotta get you down.
So now you're telling me, oh no, you can't really
do that. So it's just it's the old days. They
used to have a rules book or it's probably about

(36:59):
a quarter inch stick. Today it's a bible, you know,
maybe multiple bibles. Just they're constantly adding more and more
onto So I don't love it. We can't protect everything.
I think part of the allure of this game is
it's a dangerous game. These guys get paid a lot
of money. They know what they sign up for. You
can't protect them on everything. And you know, there's just

(37:20):
a point where I always think they overreact.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yeah, and I think I think you're right. I agree
with you one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Right.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
If a guy's going out of balance, it's easier just
to corral them like a like some herd, like a
herd of cow. Right, And just okay, you're at a bounce,
when you're in the middle of the field, you gotta
do what you got to do to get the guys
to the ground because he's going to advance the football.
So no, I'm with you one hundred percent on that.
And this is a receiver talking too. Man, I'm going
across the middle. Hit me high, don't hit me.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
Love, Let me ask you this so here And I
kind of said this jokingly to somebody, I go, look,
if you're slower than me, they go down.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Can you not feel me coming? Serious?

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Can you not feel me from I can't say I
feel like I'm the Iowa quarterback right now about to
say something that doesn't sound right.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
Can you not sense that I'm about to catch you?

Speaker 6 (38:12):
And so if that's the case, can I not put
a little bit of accountability on you too that you're
not in a position for that? I mean, lean more forward,
I die, make a move, do something. Don't put it
always on me and I And I asked that because
I was kind of kidding, but I'm also serious about it.
I go, when does the offense take some accountability for

(38:35):
the dangerous throws? You know, the intersect points? Why does
it have to be on the defender for everything?

Speaker 5 (38:41):
And that's the only thing. I think?

Speaker 3 (38:42):
How many points the game? Not many?

Speaker 4 (38:46):
That's why because we put up the points, Moyer, no
one cares that we are the reason why people pack
the stadiums to watch touchdowns.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Let me ask you this, if the Seahawks won three
to nothing every single game, do you all care?

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Yes, they they don't.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Y'all don't want to see a three zero game?

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Eventeen and O you want to see twenty four.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
Here?

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
No, I'm just I'm I agree. I'm just Devil's advocate.
I got I gotta poke. I gotta poke at you
a little bit.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
It drives me crazy, a little bit, just just a
little bit. Let me ask you a question, all right,
man last week. Boy, how the league changed quickly two
weeks ago? Who was invincible?

Speaker 7 (39:23):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
The Niners in Philly, Philadelphia?

Speaker 6 (39:26):
You know, I think you know, you could throw Kansas City.
I don't think they're invincible, but they're five and one,
you know, Philadelphia for sure.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Who's the best team in the league right now?

Speaker 6 (39:35):
And by the way, there's one team that has one
loss and it only came from the Seahawks Troy lines.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Do you think they're the best in the game.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
I'm asking you.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
I go with three teams, I go Niners Philly Miami.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
So Niners Philly Miami. But I so wanted to do
the Stacey question. Are any of those elite quarterbacks there?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Nope?

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Not a one?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Well two is a leading in Uh. I know, but
v for a pick name.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
But could he win with an average team?

Speaker 4 (40:04):
No?

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Okay, it's weird, weird time, it's crazy, right, I'm there
for it, all right, all right?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
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Speaker 1 (40:28):
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Speaker 7 (40:40):
No.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
If you're your host, Michael Buffis, that's Paul Moyer.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Welcome back to Hawk's Live every Thursday right here at
seven o'clock on sevent ten Seattle Sports at Bellvy Square
Center Quarter.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Right now, we're.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Joined by guy who has taken the region by storm.
It's Jake Bobo. One more time for Jay. Now, Jake,
there are a lot of people who are jumping on
your bandwagon. Man, But I'm gonna say, all right, I've
watched you.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
I worked for the Pac twelve network.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
You came over to Dude, I'm like, who's this big
you know what receiver going across the middle making plays.
I'm like, dtr who is this guy? He goes Man,
that's my boy, Jake. So once they drafted you, I
knew that you were a true receiver, right. I saw
the things that you were doing and understanding leverage and
spacing and all that.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
So I was really excited to see what you do.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
So thank you for making me look like a genius sometimes, man,
because I told.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Everybody about you. I told everybody about you, man.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
But but for real, man, it's been a pleasure to
watch you play. You made it play last week where
it was a big hit, and then I saw you
get up.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Your pointing and you're smiling. The New York calls and
they say, hey, you gotta take nineteen off the field.
What's that whole process? Like?

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Did this tap you on the shoulder and be like,
hey man, you got to.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Go to the tent real quick.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (41:56):
I made the mistake of kind of shaking my head
at the sideline to kind of say, you know, I
brush it off.

Speaker 9 (42:01):
I'll be all right.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
But I think the folks upstairs kind of took that
as you know, it might be a little wobbly down there,
so I guess they buzzed down to the ref. They stopped,
the game, had to come out. It was a little frustrating,
but you know, I appreciate the caution. I wish to
hit one as big, but what it is.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
Well, what I was just chatting with you. I'm gonna
share one of my favorite plays. And look, today the
game has changed so much. I mean it's almost Look
wide receivers are now taught to be like soccer players
and flop.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
You're all, we're not taught to flop more.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Not you, but the new one, the one you're an
old No it is. But you got up, and I
think this is what makes you so endearing. The love
of the game just comes out of you.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Man.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
You you got up, you were smiling, you didn't care
about the big hit, and I think that's what makes
you and what look you also, you know you're a
lead blocker for the first touchdown. I mean you go down,
You're on spell teams, You're you make touchdowns and red zones.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
I mean you just I think.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
It's just the love of the game and just talking
with your But I mean it's not an act, man,
This truly is you.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (43:08):
Yeah, I mean it's the whole happy to be here.

Speaker 9 (43:12):
Thing is kind of cliche.

Speaker 8 (43:13):
But you know, I didn't really have any expectations coming
into this, right, so it's what can I do to
to you know, improve this team? How can I impact
this team? How can I make plays to move this
team forward? And you know, at the end of the day,
it is what it is.

Speaker 9 (43:30):
I'm kind of just happy to be out there doing that.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
You're more You're more than that, though.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
I mean, I hear Gino talk about you and look
they're they're pulling for you.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
But so I'm going to take you back to this part. Look,
you've been he was.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
At Duke for four years, his dad was, and mom
and dad both went to Dartmouth, So he's got some
pretty smart jeans. Your dad was a wide receiver at Dartmouth.
Is he finally giving up the mantle to you that
you are better wide receiver?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yet? Yet?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Not yet?

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Pretty good?

Speaker 6 (43:57):
But one thing that gets you from being a drafted
player is here forty times by the way, happened to me,
am my senior here too.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Are you really a four?

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Are you really?

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Can you compat that?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Well?

Speaker 9 (44:12):
So here's the thing, right, It's like.

Speaker 8 (44:15):
It first comes out, all right, who's the guy runs
four nine nine playing for UCLA?

Speaker 9 (44:19):
Absurd?

Speaker 8 (44:21):
And you kind of are you know, it's embarrassing, you know,
it is what it is. But at this point, I mean,
do you kind of just have to embrace it? Right,
you know what I mean Like this, I kind of
enjoy being the probably the slowest wide receiver at least
forty time wise in in NFL history, right, Like that's

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got to be up there in the ranks.

Speaker 9 (44:46):
So for me, is you know, embrace that. That's who
I am.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
You know.

Speaker 8 (44:51):
I think it kind of complements some of my other
skill sets which you you touched on earlier.

Speaker 9 (44:56):
But at this point it is what it is.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Man.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
Yeah, quite fault sure than that obviously, And there's there's
something about being smart and understanding defenses and separation getting Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Man, I'm a receiver, so I know a route runner,
and I know a guy who understands what he's doing
when I see it, And I think that's that's different.
There are guys who are running who can run here
or there faster than anybody, But can you do it
with eleven other bodies out there and a coverage?

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Is there a route that you like the most?

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Because I know I was a slot guy, so whenever
I had my option route at five, I can stretch
to eight depending on what the defense is doing, and
I could I can manipulate what's going on. That was
my favorite route. Is there a route that you enjoy
the most.

Speaker 8 (45:39):
I'm a big option route guy, just being able to
you know, like you said, diagnose.

Speaker 9 (45:44):
Coverage, use leverage and stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (45:46):
But also any double moves right right, So I don't
want to just run a straight line down the field.
I want to try to manipulate, you know, get him
go one way so I can go the other, make
it look like I ran right by him, when in reality,
probably just put a move on him.

Speaker 9 (46:00):
Get down the field.

Speaker 8 (46:01):
Yeah, but any double move option routes anything where I'm
not running a straight.

Speaker 6 (46:05):
Line, which you know in today's game. Yeah, you can't
just run a straight line. I mean, you got you
gotta change up speech. Let me let me take you
back to high school. You grew up in Massachusetts. You're
recruited by wake Forest. And by the way, here's what
was really funny. I pulled up his Wikipedia page or
Wikipedia however you want to say it, and he goes,
I have a Wikipedia page, and so I show him.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
I go, yes, you do, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (46:28):
So you're recruited by wake Forest, Boston College Army. You
end up going to do talk about that and was army?
Was that a serious thing you were doing obviously be
pretty cool school to go to academic.

Speaker 8 (46:39):
Yeah, it was honored to even be kind of considered
for a spot at that at that institution. Obviously Ratigan
is a guy that that went to Army and he's
a stand up guy, so you know, that was cool
to be in that position. But going back to the
whole recruiting thing, you know, I was I was an
underrecruited guy, kind of mirrored my pre draft process or

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kind of a guy that kind of you know, flew
under the radar, and you know, I embraced that, happy
to land where I landed in Durham. Obviously made my
way out to LA by the end of by the
end of it, but it was I mean, it was
cool process.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
Why why why that?

Speaker 6 (47:19):
By the way, I mean, you have four good years
in Duke, I mean that programs turned around. I get
you know, you got a standing ovation here.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
You're a hero as a twelve.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Other than being a basketball player, you probably not as
loved at Duke. But how do how do you your
fourth year? Obviously you graduate and why U c l.

Speaker 9 (47:36):
A Yeah, you know, it's it's weird.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
I still probably consider you know, Duke is is my
school where I went to school obviously, graduated, was there
for four years. I love Durham, North Carolina, but wanted,
you know, I had one year left, got the COVID year,
had one year left of eligibility, and and figured I'd
take a shot.

Speaker 9 (47:56):
You know, my it's weird.

Speaker 8 (47:58):
My my dream growing up was always is I want
to play college ball.

Speaker 9 (48:02):
It wasn't necessarily I want to go play in the league.

Speaker 8 (48:05):
And so I kind of took that year and saw
that year as an opportunity to kind of live out
a kid's dream and and go take a shot at
you know, went in a conference championship, competing for a
national championship, which we'd have had the chance to do
if we didn't squander it. But you know, it was
just taking a shot. Figure I'd go out to La Chip.
Kelly's a Northeast guy, so connected with him, and it

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was it was an awesome, awesome experience.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Now, I was an undrafted guy myself, and when you
get into the locker room, I don't know if if
this was the case, I know exactly whe you're gonna say,
you got these bs lockers in the middle roly lockers
were like, look, you're seeing guys getting peeled back every
single day. So the realization of the situation that you're in,
like it's it's really as soon as you get in there.

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And I made a connection with our backup quarterback, immediately
I go, this is the guy that's going to make
or help me make this team. I would assume it
was Drew Locke for you or was it someone I said?
And then once he made that connection, did you guys
have the conversations like, all right, man, it's me and
you or was this an unspoken type thing to where
I'm gonna just do my.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Thing, you know.

Speaker 8 (49:09):
I don't know if I necessarily had a guy like
that to where it was okay, you know, you know,
we're gonna do this together. But I think kind of
the there's an easy connection to make between QBS and
white House, and for me, that guy was Drew in
the preseason, obviously starting out in OTAs and in camp,

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just just being on the same page with him because
that's who I was on the field with, Like I
wouldn't you know, I hadn't made enough plays yet to
be on the field of seven, and so being out
there with Drew and he definitely took me under his wing,
talking about scheme stuff, you know, the culture of that organization,
and then obviously on the field, I felt like we
made a pretty pretty quick connection. So that was cool

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and I'm, you know, very thankful that he took the
time to do that.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
You know, what's been fun is just to watch how
excited your teammates are for you when you scored that touchdown.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
And I mean that's I mean.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
Do you feel I don't even know how I want
to say, do you are you in awe of that?
I mean, look, you got dk metcal If, you got
Tyler Lockett, and these guys genuinely like you as a
human being, And about that, I mean.

Speaker 8 (50:18):
Yeah, it's stuff like Locke run out there and grabbing
the you know, I'm a I made the wrong decision
to lose the football after the after the touchdown, he
ran out there, no helmet on, grab the ball, make
sure I got it.

Speaker 9 (50:34):
And it's just stuff stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (50:36):
Not only that shows you kind of the composition of
that receiver room, but also that that organization And so
it's cool to be embraced by those guys, But what
you don't see is how they are with with the
other rookies, they're the same way. And so if you know,
if guys like you know Ty John Lindsay, you know
Lance Lance boy kid in the corner, if they make
a big play, you.

Speaker 9 (50:56):
Know the sideline of roughs.

Speaker 8 (50:57):
And it's so cool to see that because you know,
I don't know if that happens at other places. I'm
assuming it's not the same. So I'm very thankful to
landed at the spot.

Speaker 9 (51:06):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
You give me the feel of a guy who's not
afraid to have conversations on the football field while you're playing.
There's some guys who are really uptight and I don't
say nothing. There's some guys who are talking trash, some
guys who having fun.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
You give me the field.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
That you'll have some conversation and last some things off
like what is what is a a a seventh place stretch?
Like for Jake Bobbo out there, when it comes to
interacting with the.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Other team, with the other team, let's go both teams.

Speaker 8 (51:35):
Okay, your team, yeah, with the other team, it's it's
very I'm a I'm reactionary. So if you know, if
there's a little trash talking going on, okay, I'll dig
into that.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
A little bit.

Speaker 9 (51:45):
But if it's not, you know, I'll kind of stand
my own lane.

Speaker 8 (51:49):
But when I'm out there, dude, it's it's for anybody.

Speaker 9 (51:52):
It's survival.

Speaker 8 (51:54):
And yeah, right now the game is flying. And the
good part is is I've seen you know, it's become
easier since some of the camp stuff, since early in
the preseason. But yeah, man, I'm just out there, yeah, looking.

Speaker 9 (52:07):
To make plays.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
If I do, maybe I'll let you know that I did,
so maybe I won't, but yeah, yeah, I'm definitely a
vocal guy.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
You say anything to the guy that gave you that
big hit or did you just kind of shake it off?

Speaker 9 (52:20):
You can't say anything after that one?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
After yeah, yeah, you're.

Speaker 8 (52:24):
Lying face down on the ground. It's hard to get
up and talk trash after that.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
What did well?

Speaker 6 (52:28):
I know we only got a bad man. What other
sports did you play? Other sports?

Speaker 5 (52:31):
In high school?

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Basketball?

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Basketball?

Speaker 9 (52:33):
Miss those days?

Speaker 5 (52:34):
You got got a little bit of hyke there. Last
question for you that I got asked, flea flicker? Was
that designed for you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:42):
I was open.

Speaker 8 (52:43):
But it's the it's that's what a lot of people
don't understand, Like you guys get it because you played
is there's you know, a quarterback's got he's got his read.

Speaker 9 (52:50):
It's one to two to three, and on that I
think I'm the third.

Speaker 8 (52:53):
So it's the back to I think Disley was running
a corner and I was over the top. He just
didn't have time to get there. And so you know,
social media is going out saying bubble is open wide
in gc M. But you know, folks just don't understand,
like he's not looking there.

Speaker 9 (53:09):
If he had time, he got there.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
But yeah, I was little, I was.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Too, But I'm glad you pointed that out because people just.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
You know, throw the ball. I go.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
There's a progression that's going through. If you can't get there,
you don't get there. Special teams, But what what's that
like for you?

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Running down?

Speaker 4 (53:24):
I remember the first time they asked me to make
a tackle special teams, Like, i'ven't done this since.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
I was a freshman in high school.

Speaker 9 (53:29):
High school.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Yeah, what was that like for you?

Speaker 8 (53:31):
Yeah, I've been tackling anybody since yeah, my senior year
of high school. So that's you know, that's and I
didn't play a ton of special teams in college, especially
later in my career. But like you know, it's like
some of the run game stuff. I you know, that's
something I enjoy, right, So you know I'll dig into
running down and covering kicks, for blocking on kickoff return,

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making plays on the punt team is you know, like
I touched on earlier. I'm just I'm really just trying
to find ways to contribute to to what this team
is doing, because you know, I get this feeling. People
in that building get this feeling. I don't know if
the fan base quite gets this yet, but this it
feels like a special squad a you know, I'm just
looking to move us forward.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Well, we appreciate you taking time out of your day.

Speaker 9 (54:13):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
You don't live close, so thanks for making the drive.

Speaker 9 (54:15):
Man appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Jake Bobo.

Speaker 7 (54:17):
Man.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
When we come back bu one side the film room,
we'll look at Trey Brown's interception, Jake Bubbo's twenty yard reception,
and then the final play of the game that is
next right here on Hawk's Line.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue
Seattle Sports.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Welcome back to Hawks Live. I'm Michael Bumbas with Paul Moyer.
We are here every Thursday at seven pm at Bellby
Square Center Court. This whole thing is presented by the
Bellvy Square Dining District.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
We just spoke to Jake Bubble.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
He's taking pictures kissing babies and shaking hands just like
the man.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
How good he get it?

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Man, great dude.

Speaker 7 (54:57):
Man.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
You know it's one of those where, man, you just
love guys who just appreciate the opportunity and the moment today.
And it's you know, it gets tougher as you get
older and become more of a superstar. If every guy
had that attitude, my goodness, man, they would be off
the charts.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Hey, that's too easy. We keep it complicated over all. Right, man,
let's get inside the film room. The first play, We're
gonna look at it. Man Trey Brown. He goes, look,
you missed me for a week.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
I am back.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
You get last time you saw me had the interception.
This time I got another interception. This time this past
was intendant for Jamar Chase.

Speaker 7 (55:33):
Jamar Chase slide to the near side and Brown is
on him. Burrow from the shotgun on second down and
five takes the snap three step drop. He's gonna lay
it up over the top. He's got check, get down, accepting, accepting.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Got Trey Brown.

Speaker 7 (55:48):
The ball is thrown deep by Burrow down the near sidelines.
It was intended for Chase, and Trey Brown turned at
the last second, gun his hands up, makes the interception.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
What look they're they're doing this a little bit.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
I really like what we're doing too, which we're dropping
down digs our free safe looked more like a cover
two look at times. And then they dropped digs down
and they put Jamal Moore not completely in the middle
of the field. And in this case they're maybe trying
to help over the top with tray. It's just, you know,
everybody singled up. Burrow goes, all right, wo one's on

(56:24):
the right side. I got one on the right side.
I'm gonna go to Trey Brown because he doesn't run
a four to three.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
He runs a four to four.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
But I would say this, I go Trey Brown might
be technically our best corner. He yeah, I mean with
his footwork, his hand position. I'm not saying his length,
his speed, you know, quickness, you know. But we loved
him when we got him in the draft. He was
a legit corner, which we haven't had in a while
at Oklahoma, and before he got injured with his knee injury,

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we thought he was, you know, potentially gonna be our
best corner, you know. Wooe pops up and then we
obviously we get Witherspoon, but he's just in man demand.
He's all by himself out to the left of the
defense's left, perfect position, gets his hand on the chest,
he is right in the guy's hip pocket. He turns
perfect he becomes a wide receiver on it. He makes
an interception and all this guy's starting to do is

(57:13):
make place.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Yeah, I look at that situation. I think Joe Burrow
looks over to his right.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
He goes, oh, I got Jamar Chase against who's this
guy getting? Oh, twenty two? Yeah, twenty two.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
I'm gonna take my chances against twenty two.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
And he just plays it perfectly.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Squeezes him to the sideline, handle the hip, make sure
he's in good position low case the football goes up
and gets it. The composure in that moment was impressive
to me.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
And who is he covering Jamal Chase?

Speaker 5 (57:38):
And how was he covering him?

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Man oh man? And it was easy like White own right.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
It was easy for him, and Burrow does look left briefly.
I didn't know if they what he saw. Maybe he thought, okay,
this is purely one on one in this situation. I
got my best wide receiver and maybe their third best corner.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
I think he's trying to move a safety like I
know where I'm going and I'm look here.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
And that's where Jim Adams actually stayed more than a
half position on that. Just great coverage and again he's
making places. We got three four legit pin Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
I'm with you. I'm with you there all right.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
This next play, Gino Smith finds Jake Bobo for a
twenty yard game and takes a big hit, setting first
and goal.

Speaker 7 (58:20):
Here we go second down and ten. Smith empties the backfield.
Send Smith and Jig Bow.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Wide to the far side.

Speaker 7 (58:28):
Walker wide to the near side, empty backfield for Gino
takes five step drop, looks, throws, reaching up, making a
catches Bobo.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
He is slammed to the ground.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
Three flags come in as the defensive back hit Bobo.
Hill hit him right in the face mask. Bobo held
on to the ball. How I have no idea?

Speaker 4 (58:51):
I love this right here and the reason why I
love this one is because the understanding that I have
to take this side release because if I go outside,
I'm gonna bump up against my guy, and I'm gonna
make this play easier for the safety. That inside release
makes that safety have to stay vertical in the middle
field just a little bit longer. And then you snap

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it off around ten to twelve yards. You toss it
up and you know you're gonna get hit him this play.
Moyer as a receiver, you know you're going to get hit,
but he concentrates, catches the football possession as everything comes
down with it.

Speaker 6 (59:25):
Yeah, Jake's still here. We should bring him over here
and tell him that coach this thing up.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
But you're right.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
The one thing he does not only just get an
inside release, he doesn't get rerouted or jammed right, so
he still got his speed moving forward. He now knows
he's passed the underneath coverage and I've got a safety,
so I can't keep.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Running to him. I gotta snap this off now.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
Gino doesn't throw maybe the best throw here for him
because it kind of throws it behind him. I would
like him to let him more a little more to
the sideline than give him a chance on that. It's
a great catch, it's a great route. It just shows
how smart he is in his in.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
His pattern read and not reading, but development against coverage.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
But the part I love the best.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
He gets smacked and he gets up and he's smiling,
like I love this game.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Man. Wide receivers don't do that anymore. They want to.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Fight, right, I mean I got hit in the head. Now,
I want to fight because he didn't. There's a fifteen
yard penel. There's three flags thrown, like you know, somebody
just committed murder here. I look after this play, I
was like, why aren't we using him in the red zone?

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
Because I thought they pulled him out in the rest
of the game. He actually went.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Back in all on that last but.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
We had Parkinson, which look I like, you know Parkinson
a lot. He's a tall receiver, but his recognition of
what the defense is to get that quick.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
I'm not gonna I don't want to hurt him too much.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
It's that Larry Bird first step, right, I know where
to go. It's it's a quick first step. I'm open,
I have separation hitting me now, and I tell you what,
he's dangerous in the red zone. Coach Walter, you gotta
use them more down here in the red zone.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
All right, this last one, we'll be quit.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
We got Geno smith Man he last play of the
game pass falls incomplete, fourteen goal game over.

Speaker 7 (01:01:11):
You got all three of the receivers coming near side,
DK Lockett and JSM Parkinson is winged on the left
side walker in the backfield. Gino gonna take a shot,
gets hit as he flows and the ball just flutters
to the ground. And once again the pass rush hammer's

(01:01:32):
Gino smith and once again the Seahawks offense cannot get
a shot to the end zone because the protection just
can't hold up against this Bengal defense.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Talk to me, uh, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
We had Anthony Bradford on a few weeks ago and
I had told him, I said, one of the cool
things about you, I go, is you really understand stunts.
And so they run basically a tech stunt and where
they bring the they bring the tackle and he tries
to get wide on our right guard at the time,
which was Bradford. Bradford sees the stunt, the defensive end

(01:02:10):
slows down and tries to stunt back underneath. They've got
to pass this off and Bradford is kind of looking
for curehand, where are you? And because he didn't come
off his guy quick enough, Bradford had to stay with
his guy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
So look, Gino had no shot. I'm not sure he
looked to his left.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I think if we pick up that stunt, he comes
back right and he finds locket open. But that's a
long developing play. Protection broke down. I wouldn't even call
it an incomplete pass. I mean it was just probably
even a fumble at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Yeah, it didn't stand a chance there. Man, got a
young offensive line trying to figure things out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
You provide some pressure? You thought them stunts at them? Man, Hey,
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Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
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Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
I had what I have had the sliders, We had
some tacos, We had the Collis flower, we had the
orange chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Well, yeah, you have some seafood too, didn't I?

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
When did? I? Oh? Yeah I had some? Ah he
turned it was.

Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
It was awesome and then I got my uh bringing
some black and chicken poster or something back. And I
will tell you this, Honestly, their customer service there is
off the chart. I mean they we walked in, they
knew our names. We hadn't been there in a year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
No, they knew Moyer's name. I shut up, Blake, I
shouted up Blake. The knew they knew Moyers.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
They said Paul and team. But you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
No, but really they knew each of our names, what
we did, and again they're just great customer service.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
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check them out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Yep, go check them out? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
When we returned, we will talk that talk. That's when
we pick a few topics. I tell Moyer he's wrong,
he agrees with me like he always does, and we.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Make things right. That is next right here on Hawks Live.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
It's time to talk that talk with Michael Buffis and
Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Welcome back to Hawks Live. The real ones are still here.
Those are people's right here at w Square Center Court.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
I know Jake Bobo bought like five hundred to six
hundred on his own, but you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
We got our family right here. And you know what
family does.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
From time to time, We get in arguments, we getting debates.
We talk that talk, and that's what we're gonna do
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
So Molly, as long as we are we love each
other at the end.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
At the end, I saw that matters, Yes, and that's
what we do, all right. So it's time to talk
that talk. This is what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
I'm gonna ask a question or make a statement. More
is gonna tell me if that statement is correct or false.
If I agree, I will agree. If not, I will
tell him why he's wrong. And what is do what
we do. We do this a long time now, this
is four or five years now.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
Yeah, and look, tonight may be the time you get
a win. There's always a first.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Hey, I'm from Cali, La.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
We respect the OG, so you know what, Hey respect
the O G.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
O g Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
I'm gonna let him know when he's wrong. Nough, all right,
you're ready to do it, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
First one, when the season is over, the Seahawks defense
will be the strength of this team over the offense.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
Which is interesting because I think we all thought our
offense was definitely gonna be the strength, right Well, I
from a trend standpoint where we're going. Yeah, I think
the man, that's gonna be close. I think they're both
gonna be finished in the top fifteen, which you know
where we started. You know, defensively, that's that's gonna be
a jump. But I love what our front Stevens doing.

(01:05:38):
Teams can't run on us, right and I love now
with Trey Brown and Woolen and Witherspoon and we got
Digs and Jamal Adams and.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
We got love.

Speaker 7 (01:05:48):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
I like what we're doing.

Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
I think the defense, I think they're gonna edge them,
and particularly we got to get Lucas back and we
got to have a complete offensive line.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
I think that the team goes further if the defense
is better than the offense.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
I really think that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
But I also think that with the weapons on offense,
the potential is greater. Right now, I think we're kind
of seeing what this defense could be. I think that
DK is proven. I think Lockett is proven. I think
Gino has shown that he can do it. But that
offensive line is a little bit suspect. I say all
that it's a contradict everything I just said, and agree
with you and say that, Yeah, I think the defense

(01:06:32):
is going to be mo better.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
All right, that kind of ties into my question right now.
All right, in the past, when we get towards a
trade deadline, you're always looking at what could make us better,
what could put us over the top.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
So let's just say we're mirroring that trade deadline.

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
What position would you want to trade for that could
really put us over the top, And that means we
got to take a starter out right of that equation.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Right, here's the thing. I look at the starting secondary.
I ain't getting rid of nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
I look at the starting Linebackers, I ain't get rid
of nobody. I look at the starting D line. I'm
not getting rid of anybody. Quarterback I'm good, receivers, I'm good,
running backs, I'm good. I'm looking at that old line,
and I'm saying, all right, if there's anywhere you could
take a starter out and put someone else in, I
would go with the offensive line. Not to I'm not

(01:07:28):
saying that this line is not capable. I think maybe
when they're healthy with Abe Lucas and Charles Cross and
Damien Lewis and Devin Brown, Phil Haynes or Anthony Bradford,
you got Olu. There are guys who are capable, but
I also think that there might be somebody out there
who's a bit more ready to lead the charge on
that offensive line. So I look at the old line

(01:07:50):
and I'm saying, if there's a move I would make
to bring a starter out, it'd be the big boys.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
What's say you?

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:07:57):
And the way I'm looking at this is also it's
a cautious draft. Capital We're not going to trade a
player for a player. It means we're giving up a second, third,
fourth round pick next year, and I would not trade.
I don't know who would be out there that would
really improve us, because I feel like our edge rushers
are there. I mean, Mafe is just getting better. A

(01:08:20):
China has been really consistent, Bobby Wagner and Brooks Inside,
I mean we got Devin Bush, who was a healthy
scratch last year, who can play. You got Jamal Adams healthy.
I mean it's it's it's pretty strong. And the same
thing running back. Canine Canine is running so well, and
I know we want to get sharbon A in there,

(01:08:40):
but you know Canine can run hard too. Receivers Jsm's
really starting to come into us play. We just had
Jake Bobo, who's a threat, particularly in that red zone.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Actually not even a resident. I'm playing the guy more.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
We're gonna have d escorts back in two weeks, you know,
after the sixth game, and he was playing well, but
offensive line.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
I just feel like.

Speaker 6 (01:09:05):
We're banged up right now, and if Lucas is out
more than another week or two, that would be a
position I would say all right for us to be
truly at our best.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Again.

Speaker 6 (01:09:16):
That last play, fourth down, we broke down on the
right side with Jake Kerrhan and Anthony Braffer.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
I think Anthony Braffer is going to be a stud.
I would I would.

Speaker 6 (01:09:25):
Maybe make a move for tackle, even though I got
two young tackles, but with the potential that guy could
slide inside at some point. But this is the first
time in years where I go, I'm not really looking
at the trade deadline, you know, I don't know if
there's that one guy is just going to put us
over the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Top, which tackle would you slide inside?

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
Well, I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:45):
I would if I was to trade for somebody where
I said, hey, look, Lucas is still banged up, and
it's it's extending longer than we thought. Then I need
to shore that up right and then I can move.
I think Kerrhan is better inside anyone. But I would
say for that tackle if he's older, Hey, look, you're
going to compete in the guard position in the future

(01:10:07):
when we get Lucas back, because I got my true tack.
But I wouldn't have a problem moving Lucas inside the guard.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Someday, you know. So that's my only thing.

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
And that's such a it's not even a wish.

Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
It's just if that played out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
What's wild is that we might see a forty one
year old on the football field for the Seahawks this
week because of what's going on on that offensive line,
and that is mister Jason Peters. Now, typically we see
him at the tackle spot. Maybe you move him inside
to protect them from going up against the most athletic football.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Players on the field.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
In my opinion of wars of those big and rush
of those d ns of what I don't expect a
lot from him, but just stability, right, I mean, if.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
We need him.

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
I look, I like Bradford Tolae, you know, I like Lewis.
If Phil Haynes is healthy, he I've made the case.
I thought last year, maybe last year the year before,
he was playing as well as any offensive linemen are.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
Better on our team. I don't have a problem with Peters.

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
I don't know if i'd love him outside because I
think he's lost some of that quickness, but he's a
big mountain of a man inside. That would that would
be good. I just look, we got to get Lucas healthy.
Right That's that's number. All five of our starting offensive
linemen are questionable right now.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
I think they're all play, but they're all questionable.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
All right, Yeah, Lucas bag go Kug's, but go Kug's.

Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
Look, they need a rebound this week.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
What is Arizona stayed done at all this year?

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
Did you?

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
I ain't even talking about Arizona State, but you're talking
about my coups that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:37):
I might be on the sideline this week and get
a little humble pie, okay, and I may have to
wear my maroon and gold.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
I hope you do. I will all right, what you got?

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
Am I doing this with me? I'll throw it at you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:49):
Look, there's been we're talking about Kleeb Williams. Who's agent?
I guess agent. They're saying that part of his contract
that they want ownership is part of that contract.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Would you have to see quarterback?

Speaker 6 (01:12:03):
Yeah, usc quarterback, He'll be the number one pick for sure.
That ain't happening. You cannot play in the NFL and
be an owner. As a matter of fact, Tom Brady, they
always say, oh, he's coming back. Well he's part owner
a minority order with the Las Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 5 (01:12:16):
That ain't happen.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
He's going to have to give up that ownership to play.
But you know, these guys are making a lot of
money now. So I guess my question is in our
lifetime when we see a current player have ownership stake
in the NFL or a former NFL player as a
majority owner.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
If you're a majority owner, you are a billionaire upon billionaire, right,
And I think that players are getting there because they're
able to diversify their portfolio, right, you're not as a
football player. You own this, you own that, you invest
in this company that grows. But I think, man, there's
just a conflict of interest for a current player now

(01:12:55):
for a former player, I think there needs to be
a span of time, maybe twenty years is after they're
done playing to where your influence on the game isn't
as great. I say, someone like Tom Brady were to
be a majority owner right now, Man, we'd be yelling
collusion all day if anything suspect were to happen. The
owners now have been owners for such a long time.

(01:13:17):
They collude in other ways. It's not not gonna twist it.
That's what they do. But the integrity of the game
is not in jeopardy. So I don't think. I don't
think we're gonna see it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
Yeah, Michael Jordan owned obviously a basketball team, and he's
the richest, you know, former athlete of all time, and
I think, you know, maybe Tiger Woods, you know, it's
got to be up there.

Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
But I don't see it happening.

Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
It's such a mega you know, these these franchise are
four or five billion dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
I just don't think they can make that kind of money.

Speaker 6 (01:13:49):
Even though money makes money, they're not making that kind
of money. Not in my lifetime, maybe in my grand
children's lifetime.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
I second beat. Yeah, all right, when we return, we'll
put a bowl all this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Show recap and final thoughts are next right here on
Hawk's Lot.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
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Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Welcome back to Hawks Live. I'm Michael Bonas with Paul Mary.
This is the last segment of the show. My producer
gives me a card to read at the end of
the show, and I dropped it somewhere, but I found it,
did you?

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
And my producer.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
I'm gonna have to buy him a drink after this
because he's gonna be angry at me. But I gotta
I gotta get him mad at least once a year.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Once a year, I get him mad. I heard it?

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Did you find it?

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
It's my one time? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
Got okay?

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
I got it right here, all right, man. So uh
it's good radio. It's great radio.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
It's time to put a bone this sing and look
forward to our opponents this week in the Arizona Cardinals.
We had opponent preview earlier during the show, and I
think we both obviously, I think we always come into
the week respecting the opponent.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
I guess you have a backup quarterback. Okay, You're running
back is banged a. I think you're getting uh back.
It sounds like you're getting booda back.

Speaker 7 (01:15:11):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
But this defense has been really good as far as
getting after the quarterback, and not even from the d
Linean's more from the second level, which are linebackers. So
we talked about the stunts that we saw against the Bengals.
When it comes to the defensive lineman, they're gonna run
some stunts with those linebackers as well. So if I'm
watching the film, this is a copycat.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Leave right, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
You're gonna throw something at these uh, these offensive lineman
to see what they can handle.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:15:34):
Matter of fact, when when you watch the Cincinnati game
and Arizona game, they ran a ton of stunts up
the middle. Uh, they found something in Cincinnati's protection.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
Look, it's a visional game.

Speaker 7 (01:15:46):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
They know us, We know them. It's we don't like them.
They don't like us. We're a better football team. But
you know, we gotta go play well. I just think
kind of get back to the basics again. You know,
let's let's run the football. We're gonna have to make
some adjustments. So and particularly in our routes. They're gonna
give us some these highbred things like you said, you know,

(01:16:08):
They're gonna have seven guys standing around the line of
scrimmage and you got to figure out who's gonna blitz.
And sometimes they blitz, sometimes they don't. They're really aggressive.
You watch them on film, you go wow, I like
the way they play. They're just not there yet. They
don't have that quarterback, though he's very mobile. They have
some speed outside, they got a veteran tight end.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
I just we should be four and two after Sunday, man.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
I feel you and I look at the challenges that
they present, and I think that in certain areas it's
good for them when it comes to the matchup, but
everywhere else, the only thing I look at them and
I go, okay, you can give us problems. There is
blitzings and stunts and all that stuff, But everywhere else,
I think I'm with you. You mentioned they've been outscored
the Arizona Carna's forty sixty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
In the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
You got Josh Dobbs who's turned the football over frequently
as of late in the fourth quarter. Ye has six
fumbles on the year, which is wild. It's like top
three in the NFL right now. So they're gonna present
some opportunities, and I like what you said, getting back
to the basics right b where you're supposed to be
gap integrity, offensively, getting to the right protection, slide the

(01:17:18):
protection when you need to use your running back and
on the outside. You just gotta win. Because the Bengals
when it came down to winning time, they manned us up,
but we were not able to get loose.

Speaker 6 (01:17:28):
Look, we got superstar wide receivers time to play like
a superstar every play, and they're capable of it, and
I mean every play, and that means the plays that
you're not getting the ball once you're not the target.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Four.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
Look, Gino, man, he don't care who's out there. I'm
gonna throw it to the guy who's open. So get
open and then let's not be forcing the ball. We're
best when Gino says, I'm gonna get take what the
defense gives us. But we're not playing since Cincinnati Turly,
it's one of the best coverage teams I've seen in
the secondary. This one will be different. Now they're gonna

(01:18:04):
give us heat. So we got to get open quick.
Against Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
We needed to protect to get open late, and so
it'll be a very different game. From a game plan standpoint.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
U, let's just get in the red zone it and
put us some points. Touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
Oh, let's let's score from forty yards out or that.
You know in.

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
Basketball, sometimes you just gotta get easy buckets, right, I
mean the old fast break. Let's get some easy buckets.
If we got to get the rebound and set our
offense every single play, man, you were't working really hard.
And look, some teams say we we're gonna shell you
to death and force that down.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Make you work hard. That works for a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
You know, when you start hitting things in the middle
of the field and they start tightening, tightening up on
anything you've got to you gotta go over the top.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
I like that because as soon as you said it,
you know what I thought of. I thought of, Okay,
grabbing a rebound, setting it up, walking in the ball
up to half court and running your off that's a
fifteen play drive right now, fast breaking it boom, grabbing
a board dished out, hitting the outlet and going that's
a six seven play drive, which means you're getting explosive
plays over twenty five and thirty yards. And we haven't

(01:19:14):
had a lot of those by this time of the year.
Last year, kinn Walker had so far his longest runs.
This year, i've been thirty six and thirty one. I
believe by this time last year he had already had
a sixty yard run and on the outside of DK
already had a forty fifty yard reception. He hasn't had
that yet. So I love the way you described that
because it made me envision exactly what this offense needs

(01:19:35):
to do.

Speaker 6 (01:19:35):
It's very hard to go twelve fourteen plays because there's
a turn there's a penalty, right, you don't convert on
a third down, all that stuff. And look, every once
in a while, I think for Gino, I don't want
him to force the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
Last week, I thought, you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
Know, when he was conservative, maybe he could have taken
that shot. And at times when he took that shot,
it's like, oh, not that time, and he's bound back
every time he hasn't played well for us.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
I expect the same thing Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Okay, Devin with his spoon, he's put together three four
games now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Yes, one more, be nice.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
He's capable, and again I'm excited to see what we do.
We have more turnovers to we didn't get it. We
only had one turnover last.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Week, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
A special thanks to Nick but Lauren, Jake Bobbo for
joining the show, our board operators, Back Strobel, on site engineers,
the lovely Brennon Rodgers Production of Cincius, Chauncey Sanders, and
our executive producers Nasa Troby. The Seahawks pregame show was
live this Sunday, started at ten am. Until next time.
I'm your host, Michael Bamas with Paul Moyer. We'll be
back next week right here on Hawk's Live

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