April 16, 2025 • 48 mins
After J.J. Watt was chosen 11th overall in the 2011 NFL Draft...what would've happened if the Texans could get a do-over with the rest of their selections that year? Texans TV's Drew Dougherty and Radio Sideline Reporter John Harris get weird and re-pick rounds 2 through 7 for Houston...and they come away with a MONSTER draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different
look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their
lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.
Here's Drew, What's.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Tapping every blay Welcome into a tooth edition at Texans
All Access. I'm your host, John Harris from Boyanal Salom,
reporter for your Houston Texans. It's another special night. Last
night it was Seth C Payne Knight. Seth was on
with Mark and I and we had an absolute blast.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That was a blast.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That was a really good time. Now, Mark and I
didn't get a chance to catch up with our next guest,
but I think you know him justin James Watt. Yes,
it was time for Goat Talk and that means Jonathan
Joseph and Andre Johnson alongside their guests this week. Jay
J Watt, it was really cool, like just the first
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part of this to just hear JJ, it's good to
be on with you and hear Andre's voice, JJ's voice
and Jjo's voice all together is really cool.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Here we go, JJ Man. Super excited to have you
on today. Thank you. I'm very excited to be here.
This could go a lot of ways, a.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Lot of ways, quick, quick, great. I don't even know
if he's JJ, And that's in that new commercial.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
So J tell us about just growing up, like a
little bit about your background. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I
was one of three boys.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I was oldest one, so we always battled in the backyard,
and I think that's partially what made us better. My
dad was a firefighter, so he always taught us, you know,
work ethic, discipline, those types of things. My mom started
as a secretary at her company and worked her way
up to become the vice president of that company.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So my mom was hard on in school. My dad
was hard on some in sports.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
And we just pushed each other and tried to make
each other better and mainly just messed around, but became
great athletes because of it. And I'm very, very fortunate
to have had an incredible support system that got.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Me where I am. I always admired this from Afar,
like to have for your mother to have three men
that played in the NFL like that, that's to me,
that's not I heard of. Like you, you're just happy
for one person to make it right, but to have
three sons to play in the NFL. Tell me what
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that was like in how like how you felt about that?
I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I think it's a testament to them, our parents, because
I think a they instilled in us the belief that
we could, which from our high school one person that
ever made it to the NFL. So it's not like
you have this crazies number of blueprints in front of us,
like one person in history. But our parents always made
us believe we could. And then the second part of
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it was they taught us how to make that a reality.
They taught us how to work. They taught us how
to be disciplined. They taught us how to take care
of our studies and take care of our practice and
do the extra. So I think it was that combination
of building the belief in ourselves and the work ethic
to back it up.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I got a chance to spend a week out there
with you guys in Wisconsin, and you know TJ and
them boys.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Was young, and you know, you being a role model
league by.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Example, did you have a phanthom like you know, obviously
he was put into that position, but did you know
that you would naturally become a leader, you know, for
your brothers to fall into your footstep and obviously look
at the career TJ's having and things like that.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Like for me, it's kind of crazy just to think back.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
There there's a video of like me and Cush and
Carnor borrowing training like when my first year in the
league and TJ's they're pushing prowers with us and it's
not on the video, but he's puking off to the
side and coming back in and training with us, like
those types of experience. I guess I was probably a
little naive in thinking that, like it was just expected
that we were going to make it work. Like I,
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like I knew they were going to be successful because
I watched them work and we didn't know anything else.
Like my parents, like I told you, they taught us
that if you have a dream and you go after it,
you can accomplish it. So it wasn't a matter of
can they make it to the NFL, it's when will they?
And it was I think it was just that and
then them being able to be around this, being able
to see you guys, like I wish you could see
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some of the group chats of my brothers and I
because they tell stories about YouTube, like they tell stories
about k Jack, like telling me stories about Sean Coley
and like the softball game and all this stuff. Like
they lived their entire childhood watching you guys, and that's
all they've ever known.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Did you have any offers coming out of high school
or how? How did you heard.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Star on one of the sites? And I was a
zero star on the other. But so like in high school,
you have like the camp circuit. You go do camps
and you get offers. I got mono in high school,
so I didn't get to do the camp circuit, but
I got a couple offers here and there. Wyoming was
my first offer, never forget it. Thought it was the coolest,
craziest thing ever. My dad got on a plane, flew
my tape out to Miami to Wyoming, put it on
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the table, and then flew back home same day. And
they ended up offering me, and then a couple other
schools offered. But I I was like that kid in
the candy store. I was like, I got an offer,
let me. Central Michigan offered and I went visited Brian
Kelly and I went ended up committing there. I had
a long recruitment. It was kind of crazy. I committed
to Central Michigan. Brian Kelly left for Cincinnati, so I
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committed to Minnesota. Glenn Mason got fired, so then I
just committed back to Central Michigan.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It was like, let me just go go back to
where I know.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
But then it was I started as a true freshman
at tight end, but we ran the spread. Tight end
didn't do much, and I could tell like they wanted
to move me offensive tackle because Joe Staley was a
great player who did the same thing. But that wasn't
my destiny. Like I just I knew that wasn't for me.
I wanted to make plays. I wanted to be able
to control my own destiny, and so I transferred to Wisconsin,
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walked on, and the rest is kind of history.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
What made you go from Central Michigan to Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Wisconsin was always a dream. I grew up there. I
grew up watching the Badgers. I grew up seeing Ron
Day and win the Rose Bowl. In Wisconsin, there's the
Green Bay Packers and there's the Wisconsin Badgers. That's what
you watch, and it's almost like it's a mythical, like
unattainable level, you know. And so when they told me,
like I was too small out of high school, and
they didn't have an offer and they didn't even want
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they didn't even have a walk on spot. I was
almost like, yeah, I get it, like you're Wisconsin, like I'm.
But then after my first year at Central Michigan, I
was like, I'm chasing my dream, like that's my dream.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I mean, at least go chase it.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
If I have to walk on and I fail, at
least I can say I can live with myself and
say I try.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And you know, I'm fast forward a little bit talking
about when you got drafted, and I just want to
ask you about the story. I don't know if you
heard this story or not, but I'm gonna just tell
now because I remember when I came here and everybody
wanted to get.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Non and Beast some more, and they got me and Danielle.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Manny and then I just remember hearing through the waves
that they wanted to Dravet Alden Smith or whatever, and
obviously he went to the forty nine ers and again that
you slipped down and I remember the people kind of
booing or whatever, and I wasn't really here for the
draft because it was a lockout. You you know, it
was a weird year that year, and it kind of
happened fast and just me thinking back, like damn, they
was booing, you know, and now just to live.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They did boom. I didn't confirm, but I get it either.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Draft is like, well, Wisconsin, you hear Wisconsin. You know
you're looking for the SEC or whatever. Yes, they have
no idea.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah no, So on Draft night, I know that they
in the spot that they wanted. They were looking at
like Prince of mukermore, they were looking at Nick Fairley,
like the fans were like they wanted these guys. I
think Nick Fairley was in the National Championship Game and
Retavoc and all these things. On Draft night, I was
sitting there and I had actually heard that the Texans
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and the Cardinals were planning on trading picks. The Cardinals
had five and the Texans had eleven, and I believe
that the Texans were going to take Patrick Peterson at
five and then the Cardinals were going to take me
at eleven. Didn't end up working out for whatever reason,
and I ended up playing for both teams.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Anyway, It's one of my greatest memories of you being
your teammate, and it was a play. It was our
first playoff game, the pick against Cincinnati. I tell people
all the time, I've never ever heard in that stadium
get that loud ever in my life, and I play
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you know, I've been here for you. The only person
I ever really seen do that, Like just you come
out your stands and just pick a ball up, Like
what how does that happen?
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Like it was partially because my pass rush was so
bad that I stand a lot. I didn't beat the
guy in front of me, so I just had to
stand there and like, hope you threw it my way,
and then I almost tripped on my way to the
end zone. But for me, that was was funny. At
the end, my dances are embarrassing. It's really really bad.
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I watch all these highlights and like I'm like, someday
my son's gonna watch these and he's gonna see some
really cool and then he's gonna see.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Some embarrassing stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
But that, I mean, that was obviously kind of like
coming out party whatever you want, like for not only myself,
but for our whole squad, Like I mean, we first
ever playoff appearance, first ever playoff win, like this city
was on fire Man and for me, that was I
tell people all time. I played twelve years in the league,
but those first two years were the best I've ever
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been a part of because of the chemistry that we had,
because of the squad that we had, how good we were.
It always crushes me that we didn't fulfill what I
believe our potential was because we were.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Really something special.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And those not only the stuff on the field, man,
but the locker room.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
We had such a great, great team. Yeah, I tell
people that all the time. I think for me and
I think, you know, me and j Joe talk about
it a lot too, Like I think the thing we
miss is the locker room. Like you missed the locker room,
You missed the plane rides, the bus rides and things
of that nature. You know. With as far as playing
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the game, I don't have to play it ever again.
But when I get to be around the guys is
what we uh, you know, what we miss about it.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
And we were on those small planes back then, and
it was these guys sitting right next to the middle
like people now, Like the report cards were pretty, but
like that was the best. It was almost better because
you just didn't care about anything else. We were just
hanging out in the back of the plane balling, and
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then after the game you were just having a great time.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Dude.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
It was you can't get that feeling bad, No, you
can never.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I can never get to feel in the picture and
you and cushing against Kevin Johnson football and trash can that's.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Yes, man, like all those little things like I'll never
Like we used to have the things between the DB's
and the D line where if we got sacks, it
was this, if you guys got picks, it was that,
like there's just nothing better than coming in a Monday
after a win and it's just we're all just hanging out.
We have the donuts on Saturday morning, like you have
the dinners on Thursday nights. Just those are the best,
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and those are the things, like you said, you missed
the most and that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You you can never get back no matter how much
you try and recreate it. There was a time where
it just flipped for you as a player. When did
you feel like that moment was?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
That's what I was going as actually, because I missed it,
it was.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I can I can very distinctly tell you when it was.
And I've told this story a couple of times, and
I always preface it by saying, I don't recommend this for.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
People, but this is what it was for me.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
So I came in UH as a rookie and I
started they I was drafted eleven, so they put me
as a starter right away, and I'll never forget Amobiya
Koy was incredible about it. He was the guy before me,
but he helped me learn, knowing full well that I
was taking his spot.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Moby was awesome.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
But I came in and they put me in that
role right away, and I started to struggle a little bit,
like especially in the first few games, like I was
playing three technique and I was getting cut off by
the guard on these backsides. And so I got into
a game and I think it was the fourth game
of the season against the Ravens and Marshall Yonder's the
guard and I get cut off on this as a
three technique and I come off the sideline and Bill
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Colard just rips me to shreds. You guys know, I
mean just rips me to shreds. I go out the
next series, same thing, just get cut off again. I
come back to the sideline. Colard just destroys me. The
third time, I get cut off again. I come to
the sideline. Colar looks at Cap, our trainer, and goes
Cap take his helmet away.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
He's never going back in this game.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
So I'm sitting there on the sideline like as a rookie,
just dejected, like I suck at football. My coach hates me.
I'm never going to play again. This is the worst
thing ever. We get on the flight we go home.
On the way home, I literally lived.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
At the old Spanish Trail apartments right over here.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
So I stopped at the cross off of the grocery
store right over here. I pick up a twelve pack
and I go to my house. I'm like, this sucks.
I'm just going to drink by myself. So I go
and I drink by myself. And I ended up cutting
on some high school highlights just because I was like,
I need to feel good about myself, like that I
can play football.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So I start cutting on some high school highlights.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I start cutting on some college highlights, and I'm getting
like seven or eight deep here, and all of a sudden,
I'm like.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You know what you got. You can be this as
you want.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
But that guy, that guy I'm good at football, like
those guards, like I'm good at football, like if I'm
gonna go out, I was trying to be so perfect
with my technique, with my hands, with my feet. I
was trying to do it exactly how he taught on
every single play. And I finally that night, probably because
of the libationians, I was like, just go out there
and play, man. If you get cut, and if you
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don't make it, at least do it your way. And
so then I started playing a little more free, and
they started giving me a little more freedom. But it
was a combination of then Bill would reined me in
with I gave some of my freedoms, and then he
was able to rain me back in and teach me
the technique that I needed, and somehow it magically married
up and turned into a great player. But Bill Kohlar
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absolutely hated him for about the first eight weeks of
my NFL career, and now I love him like you know,
a best friend, and I'm so thankful for him. And
then I got to give credit to Wayde Phillips. Wade
Phillips was an unbelievable man to play for and gave
me so much confidence that I never would have had
if it weren't for him.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Trust me, I had to go to back for you.
In as funny as it sounded like, Dre No.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
You know when you first took off, every question here
will you go man' is that white boy really that good?
And trust me, hey, I got to enjoy out him.
You know, I'm going back and running through practice. I'm
looking at the one on ones. I love to watch it,
you know what I mean. So for me as a
player playing with you, like, I just got to let
you know just how I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Was like you made my job easier every time we
took the field.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And now, looking back on it, like you say, I
don't even know when it took off, because before I knew,
it was seventeen sacks, eighteen twenty back to back to back.
And then they put you on offense. People see some
of the interceptions in the game. I had to watch
you destroy some of my defenders in practice. I was like, man,
this dude is getting out of hand.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
No, I gotta tell you guys man like you Jack
d Man, like all the guys in the back end,
like for a defensive lineman, it makes our job so
incredibly easy. And I think that was the beauty of
why Wade Phillips defense works so well. Wade loves cover
one like he wants to run cover one. He wants
to run man a man, you can't do it if
you don't have dogs at corner. And we had you
and j Jo and guys out there shutting people down.
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So for me, it was sack city because I just
got to eat. I give a ton of credit to
you guys. I always talk about Obviously Aaron Donald's an
unbelievable player. He played in the Wade Field system as well.
Same thing like dogs on the back end, let the
front end eat, and that's when football is really fun.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
But I remember when it's chance.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You thought you can just walk around like you say,
you went to the grocery store, got a toil pack,
and then all of a sudden it.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Became you couldn't even go into the gallery of the mall.
Talk about how that felt.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
It was a little wild, because you know, I'm a
kid from Wisconsin. I come down to Houston. I've never
been here before, and so I'm going to Cavenders and
They're getting my cowboy hat and cowboy boots. Like I'm
walking around atb like getting my groceries, and then I
think it was probably like I mean, it was definitely
the playoff game after that, where like you go to
AGB and you're like, all right, this is taking like
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an hour and forty five minutes to get my groceries
because everybody wants pictures, and then it just kind of snowballed,
and then you're doing the commercials and then everything starts
to blow up, and nobody can ever prepare you for
how to handle it, Like nobody could have ever taught
me or told me how to handle it, because you
just kind of have to experience it. And there's definitely
certain things that I would look back on and like,
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having the wisdom I have now, I would handle them
differently and I would do things differently. But I also
realized the life I have is because of it, and
so I'm unbelievably grateful. I have a connection with the
city of Houston, Texas that never in my wildest dreams
would I imagine that here would be I feel like family.
But every time I get here and I step off
the plane or I walk around, it truly truly feels
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like family. And I think you guys probably feel that
the same, Like something about it. They've embraced me, and
I'm so grateful.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Grand Is.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
We flew back on that plane from the empty the
Music Awards.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
We should have partied that night.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
One of those things, one of those things like where
I'm like, did you really need to get back that night?
Like like I was like, there's a lot of stuff
like that that I looked at where I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Like, all right, so why were you so tough?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Didn't matter on March thirtieth that you were in the gym.
You couldn't have couldn't have had one night with your
boys in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Country Country. Yeah, Like I got a.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Jet, brought a bunch of the guys and then like
I was like, no, we got to get back from
the train the next day.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Everybody's like, dude, just let us party, and I was like, no,
we need to get back. So y'all went from the
show straight straight back.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Come on party like yeah, like stupid, Yeah, talk about
stuff that you look back on.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
You Arnold Schwarzen Niggas asking Ben Jones to come party
with Ben Jones doing an Arnold impression back to him,
and I'm saying, no, let's get back to playing.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's crazy because yeah, I know I was a little jealous.
I see y'all guys on that trip. I ain't getting
to make that trip. I think I was big into
the Country Music Awards. No, I'm not taking to it.
I just wanted to go to it was it was fun. Man.
We had we had coursery, had Ben being Jack Jack.
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It is a good trip of a trip. Hold on
and see you like stay at the practice, like I remember.
I think it was the Hard Knocks thing, and it
was one like they showed you like staying at the
practice and I I was in Indie I think at
the time when that the Hard Knocks was here, and
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I I got was like, man, is he really liked that?
Like you know, like does he like really do that?
And I'm like yeah, like he worked his ass off,
Like so what what what do you think that came from?
Like what you know? What made you?
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I think part of it is how I was raised,
Like I said, my parents, that's what they taught me.
Literally they taught me like you're being you want to
be great, work to be great, put in the work.
And then once I got to the NFL, it was
people are paying millions of dollars fans are watching.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Like, you better go out there and earn that. So
there was that in me. But then there was.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Also the part of me that felt that obligation to
this place, to my teammates, to the city, that I
had to be that person. And now I fully understand
that people would question it. Some people look at it
called cheesy whatever it is, and there's there's definitely some cheesy.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That I'm like, like, you were a little cheesy.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
But the one thing that was never cheesy was the work.
Like there might be some things with you know, trying
to act like Captain America and some of like the
squeaky clean image and all that, but the work was
never a joke. Like that was always true because I
and it probably was a part of my downfall, honestly,
with some of my injuries. Like I thought I was superman.
I thought that I could lift every weight in the gym.
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I thought I could run routes with the receivers. I
thought I could do sprints with the DBS squa like
like I just thought like and like when I when
I got injured, I was like, oh, I'm going to
be back faster than anybody in history has ever been back.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
You want to know the crazy thing. It's funny you
bring that up about you felt like you can go
through anything. I remember when you dislocated your elbow in
training count and I I can I can remember it
so vividly. It was like you could hear a rap
his on car, like everybody got so quiet, like the
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fans everybody. And I'm sitting there, I'm like, oh, like
this just this just didn't happen. But I remember seeing
you in the training room and it was like a
couple of days lady, push up and I'm like, what
do from the pounce back, like like he's doing push ups.
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You literally just just located you a couple of days ago,
and now you're doing push ups. So it's just like,
what what was it like? You just always felt like
you can always come back. Man, I thought I was superman.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I'm telling you, like, especially then because I didn't so
so that day that was Brian Cushion play line back
in your foster.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I saw it. I was unbelievable. He literally ran through
your My arm was in the.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Worst position if you saw two trains coming down the track.
I stuck my arm between both of them, and Arian
came this way and Chris came this way, and my
arm is right here and just poof, so my elbow
faced in the other way. Cap our trainer comes out
and he's like, oh, yeah, that's this okay. And I'm like, no,
cap is facing the wrong way, and he goes, all right,
I'm gonna put it back in.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
He goes to put it back in, bone on bone
he missed, and then he goes to put it back
in again. He gets it in.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
He goes, oh, wow, this is my first time doing that.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I was like, yeah, I can tell you missed the
first time, dude.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So then I got to go to the hospital and
get on my MRIs and or anything. But like you said,
they pop it back in. Basically tell me I have
no tendons left, but we're not going to fix it
because I'm not a picture so I don't need the tendence.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I don't know any better. So I'm like all right.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Two days later, I'm like, let me just see how
I feel. I do a push up on the desk
and then they call doctor Lowe over and doctor low
watches me do a push up.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And he's like, I've never seen that before.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
And so me, I'm like, damn right, you haven't like,
damn right, you haven't seen that before, Like wait till
you see what I'm about to do. And he's like, well,
there's no way you're gonna be ready.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
For the first week.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
But I think in a couple weeks I was like, funny, fuddy,
I got this and then and I think that just
honestly built my confidence for that and some of my
naivity and innocence and stupidity, because I just from that
point forward, I was like, nothing can stopped me.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I'm fine. Man.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I had never heard JJ tell that story. If I
don't know Je's ever told that story. I did not
know that was the case.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That was that was some awesome stuff, talking about his
elbow injury early in his career, and then of course
he wore that brace for the remainder of his career
as a crutch he leaned on but kind of liked it.
He looked badass with it too. Call all kinds of footballs.
I saw something posted on Twitter today from my buddy
Ben Finel, who works for ESPN CBS. There's a lot
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of different stuff NFL films, and he posted a tweet
from five years ago, was during COVID. He was like, man,
JJ Watt could have been one hell of a tight end.
JJ Watt was a great tight end. He was incredible.
And the video below was him going one on one
against Christian Kirksey against the Browns at twenty fourteen, which
was incredible. One of one Watt against Kirksey and what
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makes a great fade catch in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
It was. He was incredible.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
He was absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
All Right, We got more with JJ and Andre and
j jo on Goat Talk coming up next on Texans
All Access sapping everybody. Welcome back to Tuesday edition of
Texans All Access from the Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host,
Jean Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans
and it is ninety nine's night. I'll go talk, so
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that means we get J Joe and Andre Johnson as well.
When we left the discussion, JJ talked about his elbow injury. Well,
Andre took it a little further discussing this injury and
Cush took some strays, Brady James took some strays. This
is great stuff. As Andre recalled that moment when JJ
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injured his elbow early in his career.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, Bro, I swear like I can remember very vividly.
I remember seeing Cush run to your arm because I
wasn't even in on the plate when it happened, so
I remember I'm staying on the sideline, and when I
saw it, I'm like, oh no, like I know, this
just didn't happen, right, I remember you talking about it.
You said, Cush ran right. Yeah, I'm like me, you
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gotta think I'm thinking, I'm like, why could you do that?
Like I'm pissing because I'm like, think about thinking about
that squad. But it was I think we were we
were doing like a live so I was tackling.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Think about that craziness of that sentence. Alon like you
got Brian Cushing, Arian Foster myself.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
If I remember it correctly, who's really coming down here?
Brady James.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Love Brady James. Love some Brady James.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I never forget because when that happened, when I just
okay me elbow, Coolar looked like he was going to cry,
And that was the first moment that I was like,
this guy actually.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Cares about me. I was like, yeah, you know, what
he's all right when that happened, and and that's that's
when I'm like, you already taken off at that time
in your career, but like when that happened, just to
see the way that people reacted, Like everybody was like what,
like all right, because you know we were thinking, like
he's going to be out for some games. You know,
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we don't know when he had come back. But to
see you doing push ups like a few days later,
I'm like.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Well that was also a few days after Wade. I
always give Wade credit for this. Wade before my second
season ever started. So I mean this was like I
had a decent end of the rookie year, but I
hadn't done anything crazy yet.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And Wade had told the media like he's going to
be a.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Bust, not a not a first round bus, but a
Hall of famer. And I read that, literally read it
in the paper, and I was like, Wade Phillips like
coach Reggie White, like coach he just said, I'm going
to be a Hall of Famer. There's something about when
somebody you look up to believes in you, and like
it's kind of like I told you my parents before
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when they put that they bestow that upon you, you all
of a sudden have no choice but to become a
bigger version of yourself and fulfill that destiny. And so
I always give Way credit because he put a belief
in me that I didn't even have myself at that time,
and all I wanted to do was make him right.
They also told me he's stood on the table for
me to get drafted here, so my whole career, I
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just wanted to prove Wade right and make him proud
of me.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
We and Brady James was actually on the plane we
were coming from a game, and he came over to me.
We were just talking and he was like, it was
like Dre. It was like, jj gonna be that dude.
And I'm like, I'm like really Like he was like, no, Dre.
He was like, Drake, he that good. And I never
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shared that with you until now. But we were coming
up with I can't I can't remember where we were
coming from. I think it might have been a preseason
game or something, but it was early like in the
in the year, and he who was sitting on a
plane and we were just talking and he shared that
with me, and it's it's crazy, like you say, you
don't know. Just people having that belief in you, it
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gives you so much confidence to, you know, want to
accomplish more.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Brady was Brady to me was a very underrated player
here because he doesn't get enough credit.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Brady Arry, Yeah, Mary, like a from.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
A leadership standpoint, b those we were top two, top
three defense at that time, and a big part of
it was because Brady allowed me to be me so like,
I'm well aware that I.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Just always said that to me. He was like, Drake,
I will let him do him and I'm a fix whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Yes, it was unbelievable and he was so selfless about it.
And at the same time, I had Jared Criek on
the other side, who did the same thing.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Quick knew he was going to have.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
He was like, I'm not going to have these big
sack numbers. I'm not going to have anything flashy, but
I'm going to push the pocket on the other side.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
So you do what you do on your side, and
Brady was right behind me. The exact same thing is
in the pocket.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I know damn well that quarterback is knocking to escape
off criickside. So it's up to me to make the play.
But Brady was the same way. Like Brady basically, he
would stare at me and he'd be like, you take
whichever gap you want.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I got the other one.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Not everybody's like that because everybody else wants their own numbers,
they want their own stats. But he knew that I
had those instincts to take that advantage, and he had
my back. And I'll never forget Brady for that. And
then I when I talk about Thursday dinners, I always
think about Brady James because he was like an older
vet at those Thursday dinners, literally sometimes teaching me how
to use which fork at a steakhouse, like how to
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order oysters, like I never order oysters before. He teach
me how to eat oysters, like Antonio Smith taught me
how to eat sushi for the first time. Like those
are the things you remember, you know. He took me
to Caldara Robata for the first time ever. I'd never
eaten sushi before, besides the grocery store sushi. Now I
scored Cola Robata once a week because it's my favorite
restaurant in the world. So like, those are the coolest
things man.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Being at the top.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Worst thing about sports is the entry part, you know,
and obviously when you the guy that's the first time,
you probably feel like, well you excluded, all right, they
don't need me, they ain't talking to.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Me as much.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Talk about that feeling, because you know, it takes to
be in that position to actually understand it.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
What like you almost helpless.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
It's the worst feeling in the world because not only
are you trying to physically heal and get yourself back,
but you feel like you're letting everybody down. And sometimes
you put that weight on your own shoulders when not
everyone's even putting it on you, you're putting it on yourself.
So like I'm sitting there in the training room every
day while you guys are at practice, and I'm thinking, man,
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I make a lot of money, I make a lot
of plays, like I want to help this.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I want to do.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Anything possible, and right now I'm just a sack of
potatoes sitting on this table. And every day I would
just beat myself down like thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And it was.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Every time a guy now gets injured, I try and
talk to them and teach them that that's not the
mindset to have, because like it's sports, everybody you're going
to get in if you play long enough, you're going
to get injured.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's just how it goes. So I really try.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Now one of my biggest things is helping young guys
understand if they get injured, the mindset and the mentality
of it is just as important as the physical part,
because I will break you down.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Man. I've just been some very very dark days on
game day when you know, when they would always give us,
like the two minutes before we would go out for
warm ups. I never put my shoulder pads on until
it was like, receive us two minutes, you know, and
we'll go out. That was like my switch. What was
your switch?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Well, first of all, you were always the coolest dude
in the room anyways. Literally, you could be in any
room in the world, you're the coolest dude in it.
So I was never going to try and compete on
a cool aspect of that. But mine, it's kind of
funny because mine, I would always get so hyped up
before the game, too hyped up, way too hyped up
in warm ups, like jacked up. So after warm ups
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when you come back in, before intros and all that.
I learned that I had to calm myself down. So
I go in the training room, I put my headphones on.
I turn on the dell because I just needed Like
I was like, dude, you got it. You're gonna lose
all of your energy. So I go in, I put
on a Dell and I would sit there for like
five six minutes just listen to it down and be like,
all right, calm down, It's all gonna be good. As
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soon as I was done with that, Connor Barman taught
me this trick. I go into the steam room. I
put my helmet on, my shoulder pads on. I go
into the steam room because it helped, Like you know
how your helmet sometimes is a little stiff when you
first put it on. So he taught me, if you
go in the steam room, everything settles into your body.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And it really did, and so.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
It kind of lathered me up, and like I went
out there, I was like, I already feel like I
had like a quarter under me, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
So that's what I did.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
And then I went out there, and I mean, the
crowd hits and they play turned down for water.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Like you make a play and then life just life
is good. Is there anything you wish you could do
over as it takes a billion things.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I always say, like anybody who tells you they don't
have any regrets is either lying or the perfect person.
Because there's there's plenty of things that I now do.
I look at some things and I learned from them,
I grew from them. I became a better person because
of them, absolutely, But there's plenty of things I wish
I would have done different. And as you gro older,
you have wisdom. I think I could have been a
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better leader. I think I could have been better about
my injuries and my rehabs and being smarter about managing
myself so that I could stay on the field and
be more useful.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I think I could have you.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
I always say, you don't realize the good old days
until they're the good old days, Like appreciating every moment
and understanding when I was in it how special it was,
and not running off after a night of the Country
of Music Awards, and like thinking you have.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
To spring back to the weight room, like trying to
take it in.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
I do think there's a big part of me that
I missed out on really embracing.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Those moments and those memories.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
And I think that's probably The biggest thing that I
would do slightly differently is not not speed through it all.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, I remember I got you to come to New
Year's party. I did. Oh yeah, that might have been
the first time. I always think you have to care
about that. I remember, like I was telling my friends.
I was like, man, I'm gonna get j J. And
they were like, man, come, I'm like, I tell me.
If Andre tells me something, I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But I get it now though, like back then, I
wouldn't thinking like you, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Have night clubes, man have a lot going on. No,
you might not remember it, but the first time you
ever asked me somewhere. We went to Washington Street, Remember
the guy with yes Yeah, he oh. He was like,
do you know who the hell that is? It was
my rookie year and he was like, let's go out.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
I literally like, you're talking to me like that and
he was like yeah, So it's just me and Andre
and I'm literally like sweating.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I'm like, holy, like I'm out with Andre. He's like,
we canna go to Washington and pull up on Washington. Hey.
If we go to the door, the.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Door man's like, I'm sorry, sir, you can't come in
the shoes they were like all white. I literally I
was like what. He was like, He's like, you can't
come in, man, I go, that's Andre Johnson.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That's Andre. He was like, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
And all of a sudden, this manager came like sprinting
out of the back and he's like, no, they're good.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
They're psychopath.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Like we're in Houston, Texas, and you're gonna tell Andre
Johnson can't come in.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
He could be wearing foot flops if he wants. Unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
But I just I don't think you know and appreciate
what that meant to me, you inviting me out as
a rookie.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Like I was talking to GQ Globe Quinn one day
and he told me he said, man, he said when
I was a rookie, I should be scared to speak
to you. And I was like why, But he was like,
I remember you coming up to me and saying good.
I think he had got like a picking practice or
someone day and he said I walked by him and
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like tapped him like the job and he was like
he was like that gave him like confirmation of like okay,
like Grey speaking to me and I'm like, I was
the most you didn't speak for about I didn't speak
in the locker room a lot, but I was okay
with my teammates, like.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Oh, you you were great, but you get to start
aspect of and I think it's the superstar aspect of.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, but he's also a super super You can't say,
but I would come j Joe.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I would come and sit at a locker every day
and with him and Kjack and we would sit down
there and crack jokes every day at the practice.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
When I was with the Bengals and when we signed too,
Like I didn't say nothing Fatillo for a while, though,
you know, I talked to everybody, but like, I didn't
know what to say at first. I don't know how
you're gonna react. I don't know what I just see
he got this look on his face.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
We all had that because you're up on a pedestal
first of all, and then you don't speak a lot
to begin with, so you're like, I'm definitely not saying
the first person to us, and he's probably not gonna
say any words to me, so you're probably like, oh,
these guys don't talk to me that much. We're like
he doesn't talk to us that much. We're just like
ships in the night passing by. And if you if
you tap me on the on the leg and said
good play, that would have been the same reaction.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
It's like, it's just the same thing with Wade with me.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
You did that to GQ and he probably was like,
Andre believes in me, So now I'm gonna be like you.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You have that effect on everybody something. He wanted me here,
and that's why I don't tell everybody all the time.
I'm like, that's wanted me to call me Houston.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I recruited him here. I didn't know. So we had
a mutual so Fred Bennett, who played corner corner they
played together in college. We were at the wedding and
I see j Joe and because we had played against
each other or whatever, and I just went straight recruitment modes.
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We talked the whole week and you never met before
just acrossing each other. Yeah, but we never had like that, like,
so I really got to know him that weekend. Like
it was lockout too, wasn't Yeah it was lockout? Yeah,
and yeah, so he ended up. I went and told Rick,
I'm like, hey, I think I got Jonathan, you.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Know, so I went right, they want me to come
to Houston.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You were involved, part owner of the soccer team. How
do you get involved in that half?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
I needed something to give me the adrenaline, you guys know,
like there's nothing like game day, like having the adrenaline
or having something you're working towards. And so for me,
I knew I wanted something to fill that void. I've
always been interested in the soccer world. My wife obviously
played for a long time, but the European soccer game
really intrigued me and so I wanted to get involved
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and ended up finding the perfect situation and it has
fulfilled it to a tea because like every Saturday, I
got something to watch and you know, kind of live
and die with every kick, and you still get that adrenaline,
and almost more so because you're like, I can't control anything,
I can't make a play.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
I just I'm hoping these guys make plays.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
But then in the boardroom and a lot of the decisions,
it's it's really been enjoyable for me to learn it
and to be on that ownership side, to see a
completely different world.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
How often do you get to go to the game.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
So last year I went to about ten to eleven games.
This year I've been to three or four.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
So I go over there try and yeah, trying to
get over.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Like four or five times a year because I'm truly
invested in it, like I want to be in I
want to be deep into it so I can know
as much as possible more and also.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Show the people that I care. How is it being
on TV now working with CBS, How is that? It's good? Man?
It's good. Like I love still being around ball.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I love being able to talk football, Like it would
be very weird if I didn't have some tie to
the game because I love watching it, talking about it,
breaking it down. At the same time, I have a
very difficult time criticizing guys because like I was on
the field, like I know, like you got a guy
who breaking down film and he's drawn up the plays,
and you're like, that's not my assignment, that's not my jobs,
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and you just threw all this blame on me on
national TV. So I never want to be that guy.
So I'm always very careful from that standpoint. But it
has been really really fun still being a part of
the game.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Obviously, you can't go because that was pre you. What's
your favorite moment of Andre Johnson the inn.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
A tish Man.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
I mean, we still need a statue of courting Fingerhan outside,
Like if we don't get a statue of that, we fail,
like that we can we can take his number off
of his back or taking him but that has like
we need the statue outside. I'll petition for it today,
like we need.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
That with me, man, But I'm sorry the crazy thing
I tell people all the time. I think I get
asked about that every day in my life. It's the
most bad and it's crazy because I almost get to
a point to where you're just tired of talking about it.
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But everybody, like they come in, they be like what happened?
So you have to explain the story over and over
and because it's.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
You, like everybody who knows you knows like you you
had to do something crazy to get that out of
Dre Like you would never get that. But I would
say for me in my career with you, that one
overtime play against Jacksonville comes to mind immediately where you
took that.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
It was like a public screening out, like that was
awesome for me. It was like we were talking about before.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
It's literally the locker room, like walking around the locker room,
walking around practice, walking around.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I grew up as a Miami fan. I don't know
why because they.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Were awesome when I was a kid, but like it
truthfully was like seeing you in our locker room, knowing
that I was on the same team, knowing that we
were teammates and like buddies. To me, that was cooler
than any play on the field, just knowing that I
was fortunate enough to be able to play.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
What is the most thing you get asked as by fans?
Speaker 5 (40:24):
The first thing comes to mind is just selfie's an autograph,
because that's obviously that's I mean, it's it's daily lately,
which has been a transition, which is interesting. There's a
lot of people obviously asking about my brother now or
sometimes people be like are you teaching?
Speaker 3 (40:35):
And they hang out a.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Second, I'm not ready for that, man like, which is good,
but no, I around here, it's been They ask about
the Charity Classic a lot are we going to do it?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Are we not?
Speaker 5 (40:50):
And no, I would say, uh, you got you guys
have made it great. And then a lot about the hurricane,
Like there's there's been a lot of people who have
They just come up and let's say thank you, and
I try and tell them like it was everybody else. Man,
I'll never forget that for the rest of my life, the.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Way so many different people stepped up and help. What
is it like, man, to actually, now that you're not
playing anymore, to sit and just watch that the CEE
you're a brother and a type of player he is
in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
First of all, I'm proud, like it's I'm so proud
to have watched both of them, to watch Derek play,
to watch TJ play, But for TJ especially because we
play a very similar position and we're wired so similarly.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
As I watch the.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Game, it's like I'm watching myself, and so I can
put myself in those situations. I can kind of think
what he's thinking. So immediately after the game we're talking
and I'm like, what this play?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Were you thinking this?
Speaker 5 (41:45):
And be like, yeah, I was thinking that, Or He'll
be like I was thinking about possibly using this move.
And so how lucky are we that we get to
have these conversations at the highest level of the game
that nobody else ever gets to have, Like it's to us,
it's the coolest thing the world that my brother calls
me and asks about an NFL pass rush move because
we both got to do it at this level.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
It's it's really really cool, man.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
And I've always said it, but I truthfully hope he
breaks every single.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Record I've ever had, and I think he probably will.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
But if we're talking about best single year ever, he's
gonna have the better career, He's gonna have a better career.
But there's a four year stretch where.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
He couldn't stamp it stap. You're talking about cool? How
cool is he?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
You know?
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Obviously we growing up we got to see like Ridgie
White and all those guys on the Chunky.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
Soup commercials all that, How cool is it?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
They have your mom and dad and commercially it's cool, man,
it's cool. It's it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
The most fun about those is filming him because, like
you know, how it is, brothers and sisters, like nobody
rags on you like your family. So we get into
a commercial shooting and we get all of us there
and my dad flubs a line and we just all
over him.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Man.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
They're like my brother flubs the line, and the outtakes
are the best part. So, like I said, we're living
life experiences that people only dream about, and we know
how lucky we were and we're so thankful, so anytime
they come along, we just try and appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
A ring of honor. Tell me what that moment was like, man,
because I remember sitting on the field with you, and
you know, you seem to like I could tell it
got to you a little bit. You know, it's definitely
because it gives you. I always tell people it gives
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you a time to reflect on what you've accomplished throughout
your career. Tell me about that moment. I remember sitting
on the field with you, and you seem like it
kind of yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
I mean, that was my first time being back in
the stadium since I had left on a game day,
So there were a ton of emotions just from that
standpoint alone, before even myself thinking about what the ring
of honor and everything meant.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
So walking back into.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
The stadium and seeing the fans and seeing the field
laid down and randling, and the emotions like it all
comes back and you're just like, damn, this is man,
Like this this is what I love and this is
what I miss. And then you see your name up
in the Ring of honor next to you and mister McNair,
and you think about how that's going to be there forever.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yes, sir, that name is going to be in the
rafters forever.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
J J.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Watt Man.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
That was a really fun goat talk between JJ, the
guest and the hosts Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph. Okay,
we get back. We'll go round the NFL. Two NFL
draft prospects for this draft.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
We'll have their.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Numbers retired at Colorado over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
We'll discuss next the Texans Access We Go one final
segment this Tuesday edition of Texans All Access. Sean Harris,
your host, SALO reporter Amphible analys for your Houston Texans
getting ready for the draft. Obviously, So the draft is always, well,
it's at the forefront of my mind pretty much twenty
four to seven, three sixty five, and especially at this
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time of year. So news from some prospects at the
University of Colorado, Travis Hunter and Shdor Sanders will have
their numbers retired, number twelve and number two, respectively. And
I think this is one of the dumbest things that
I have seen. As John mcclan would say, this is
one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Shaduor wasn't even All American. He's first team All Big
Twelve and he's Offensive Player of the Year into Big Twelve. Great,
they went thirteen games together. That's it. This is absolutely
the most asinine thing I've ever seen in my life.
There are schools that you have a formula. University of
North Carolina basketball, they have a formula for guys that
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get their jerseys up in the rafters and you gotta
be I think it's you gotta be All American on
three of the different services, or you have to be
acc Player of the Year or something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
You get your jersey.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
They're afters. There's a formula for it. Colorado's four jerseys
retired four. They're guys like Eric Bienemy who are instrumental
in the National championship run. Darian Hagen instrumental in the
National championship run. Alfred Williams was I think a two
time All American from h Town on that national championship team.
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There are dudes that absolutely should have their numbers retired.
Not this guy, Travis, you can maybe convince me, but
SR Sanders.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Number eight time.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
This is the dumbest thing I've ever ever seen. And
if you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Do it, make him wait.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
But they want.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Thirteen flipping games. That's it. It's the I've been listening
to this story all day and it's driven me absolutely crazy,
absolutely the nuts. And you see teams, like I said,
that have a formula. I don't know what the formula is.
I don't know whose idea this was, but it's I
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don't even care if it's Prime. And you guys know,
I like Prime. I like Prime as a coach. There
are some things that he does. It drives and be crazy,
but I think he's got common old school nature to him.
I sure hope that he's not the one behind us
because that just doesn't speak to how a coach to
handle things. So next year's quarterback Julian Lewis ends up
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being fresh roll American. It's his number retired before the
seasons even over, don't I don't. I just I'm dumb founded,
to say the least. But two former Texans are five
found well. One is founder new Home Max Sharping. When
he signed with the Steelers, but Ross Blacklock. He of
Elkins High School TCU. It was a textas second round
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pick of twenty twenty. He has been released by the
New York Giants.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
All right, that's it for the show.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Appreciate JJ Watt, Andre Johnson, and Jonathan Joseph for their
go talk.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
He was awesome.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Appreciate all you guys, Love y'all. We'll see them all
and it's out. Script Texans
In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different
look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their
lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.
Here's Drew, What's.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Tapping every blay Welcome into a tooth edition at Texans
All Access. I'm your host, John Harris from Boyanal Salom,
reporter for your Houston Texans. It's another special night. Last
night it was Seth C Payne Knight. Seth was on
with Mark and I and we had an absolute blast.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That was a blast.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That was a really good time. Now, Mark and I
didn't get a chance to catch up with our next guest,
but I think you know him justin James Watt. Yes,
it was time for Goat Talk and that means Jonathan
Joseph and Andre Johnson alongside their guests this week. Jay
J Watt, it was really cool, like just the first
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part of this to just hear JJ, it's good to
be on with you and hear Andre's voice, JJ's voice
and Jjo's voice all together is really cool.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Here we go, JJ Man. Super excited to have you
on today. Thank you. I'm very excited to be here.
This could go a lot of ways, a.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Lot of ways, quick, quick, great. I don't even know
if he's JJ, And that's in that new commercial.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
So J tell us about just growing up, like a
little bit about your background. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I
was one of three boys.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I was oldest one, so we always battled in the backyard,
and I think that's partially what made us better. My
dad was a firefighter, so he always taught us, you know,
work ethic, discipline, those types of things. My mom started
as a secretary at her company and worked her way
up to become the vice president of that company.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So my mom was hard on in school. My dad
was hard on some in sports.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
And we just pushed each other and tried to make
each other better and mainly just messed around, but became
great athletes because of it. And I'm very, very fortunate
to have had an incredible support system that got.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Me where I am. I always admired this from Afar,
like to have for your mother to have three men
that played in the NFL like that, that's to me,
that's not I heard of. Like you, you're just happy
for one person to make it right, but to have
three sons to play in the NFL. Tell me what
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that was like in how like how you felt about that?
I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I think it's a testament to them, our parents, because
I think a they instilled in us the belief that
we could, which from our high school one person that
ever made it to the NFL. So it's not like
you have this crazies number of blueprints in front of us,
like one person in history. But our parents always made
us believe we could. And then the second part of
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it was they taught us how to make that a reality.
They taught us how to work. They taught us how
to be disciplined. They taught us how to take care
of our studies and take care of our practice and
do the extra. So I think it was that combination
of building the belief in ourselves and the work ethic
to back it up.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I got a chance to spend a week out there
with you guys in Wisconsin, and you know TJ and
them boys.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Was young, and you know, you being a role model
league by.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Example, did you have a phanthom like you know, obviously
he was put into that position, but did you know
that you would naturally become a leader, you know, for
your brothers to fall into your footstep and obviously look
at the career TJ's having and things like that.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Like for me, it's kind of crazy just to think back.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
There there's a video of like me and Cush and
Carnor borrowing training like when my first year in the
league and TJ's they're pushing prowers with us and it's
not on the video, but he's puking off to the
side and coming back in and training with us, like
those types of experience. I guess I was probably a
little naive in thinking that, like it was just expected
that we were going to make it work. Like I,
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like I knew they were going to be successful because
I watched them work and we didn't know anything else.
Like my parents, like I told you, they taught us
that if you have a dream and you go after it,
you can accomplish it. So it wasn't a matter of
can they make it to the NFL, it's when will they?
And it was I think it was just that and
then them being able to be around this, being able
to see you guys, like I wish you could see
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some of the group chats of my brothers and I
because they tell stories about YouTube, like they tell stories
about k Jack, like telling me stories about Sean Coley
and like the softball game and all this stuff. Like
they lived their entire childhood watching you guys, and that's
all they've ever known.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Did you have any offers coming out of high school
or how? How did you heard.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Star on one of the sites? And I was a
zero star on the other. But so like in high school,
you have like the camp circuit. You go do camps
and you get offers. I got mono in high school,
so I didn't get to do the camp circuit, but
I got a couple offers here and there. Wyoming was
my first offer, never forget it. Thought it was the coolest,
craziest thing ever. My dad got on a plane, flew
my tape out to Miami to Wyoming, put it on
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the table, and then flew back home same day. And
they ended up offering me, and then a couple other
schools offered. But I I was like that kid in
the candy store. I was like, I got an offer,
let me. Central Michigan offered and I went visited Brian
Kelly and I went ended up committing there. I had
a long recruitment. It was kind of crazy. I committed
to Central Michigan. Brian Kelly left for Cincinnati, so I
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committed to Minnesota. Glenn Mason got fired, so then I
just committed back to Central Michigan.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It was like, let me just go go back to
where I know.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
But then it was I started as a true freshman
at tight end, but we ran the spread. Tight end
didn't do much, and I could tell like they wanted
to move me offensive tackle because Joe Staley was a
great player who did the same thing. But that wasn't
my destiny. Like I just I knew that wasn't for me.
I wanted to make plays. I wanted to be able
to control my own destiny, and so I transferred to Wisconsin,
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walked on, and the rest is kind of history.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
What made you go from Central Michigan to Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Wisconsin was always a dream. I grew up there. I
grew up watching the Badgers. I grew up seeing Ron
Day and win the Rose Bowl. In Wisconsin, there's the
Green Bay Packers and there's the Wisconsin Badgers. That's what
you watch, and it's almost like it's a mythical, like
unattainable level, you know. And so when they told me,
like I was too small out of high school, and
they didn't have an offer and they didn't even want
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they didn't even have a walk on spot. I was
almost like, yeah, I get it, like you're Wisconsin, like I'm.
But then after my first year at Central Michigan, I
was like, I'm chasing my dream, like that's my dream.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I mean, at least go chase it.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
If I have to walk on and I fail, at
least I can say I can live with myself and
say I try.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And you know, I'm fast forward a little bit talking
about when you got drafted, and I just want to
ask you about the story. I don't know if you
heard this story or not, but I'm gonna just tell
now because I remember when I came here and everybody
wanted to get.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Non and Beast some more, and they got me and Danielle.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Manny and then I just remember hearing through the waves
that they wanted to Dravet Alden Smith or whatever, and
obviously he went to the forty nine ers and again that
you slipped down and I remember the people kind of
booing or whatever, and I wasn't really here for the
draft because it was a lockout. You you know, it
was a weird year that year, and it kind of
happened fast and just me thinking back, like damn, they
was booing, you know, and now just to live.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They did boom. I didn't confirm, but I get it either.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Draft is like, well, Wisconsin, you hear Wisconsin. You know
you're looking for the SEC or whatever. Yes, they have
no idea.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah no, So on Draft night, I know that they
in the spot that they wanted. They were looking at
like Prince of mukermore, they were looking at Nick Fairley,
like the fans were like they wanted these guys. I
think Nick Fairley was in the National Championship Game and
Retavoc and all these things. On Draft night, I was
sitting there and I had actually heard that the Texans
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and the Cardinals were planning on trading picks. The Cardinals
had five and the Texans had eleven, and I believe
that the Texans were going to take Patrick Peterson at
five and then the Cardinals were going to take me
at eleven. Didn't end up working out for whatever reason,
and I ended up playing for both teams.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Anyway, It's one of my greatest memories of you being
your teammate, and it was a play. It was our
first playoff game, the pick against Cincinnati. I tell people
all the time, I've never ever heard in that stadium
get that loud ever in my life, and I play
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you know, I've been here for you. The only person
I ever really seen do that, Like just you come
out your stands and just pick a ball up, Like
what how does that happen?
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Like it was partially because my pass rush was so
bad that I stand a lot. I didn't beat the
guy in front of me, so I just had to
stand there and like, hope you threw it my way,
and then I almost tripped on my way to the
end zone. But for me, that was was funny. At
the end, my dances are embarrassing. It's really really bad.
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I watch all these highlights and like I'm like, someday
my son's gonna watch these and he's gonna see some
really cool and then he's gonna see.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Some embarrassing stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
But that, I mean, that was obviously kind of like
coming out party whatever you want, like for not only myself,
but for our whole squad, Like I mean, we first
ever playoff appearance, first ever playoff win, like this city
was on fire Man and for me, that was I
tell people all time. I played twelve years in the league,
but those first two years were the best I've ever
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been a part of because of the chemistry that we had,
because of the squad that we had, how good we were.
It always crushes me that we didn't fulfill what I
believe our potential was because we were.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Really something special.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And those not only the stuff on the field, man,
but the locker room.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
We had such a great, great team. Yeah, I tell
people that all the time. I think for me and
I think, you know, me and j Joe talk about
it a lot too, Like I think the thing we
miss is the locker room. Like you missed the locker room,
You missed the plane rides, the bus rides and things
of that nature. You know. With as far as playing
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the game, I don't have to play it ever again.
But when I get to be around the guys is
what we uh, you know, what we miss about it.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
And we were on those small planes back then, and
it was these guys sitting right next to the middle
like people now, Like the report cards were pretty, but
like that was the best. It was almost better because
you just didn't care about anything else. We were just
hanging out in the back of the plane balling, and
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then after the game you were just having a great time.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Dude.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
It was you can't get that feeling bad, No, you
can never.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I can never get to feel in the picture and
you and cushing against Kevin Johnson football and trash can that's.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Yes, man, like all those little things like I'll never
Like we used to have the things between the DB's
and the D line where if we got sacks, it
was this, if you guys got picks, it was that,
like there's just nothing better than coming in a Monday
after a win and it's just we're all just hanging out.
We have the donuts on Saturday morning, like you have
the dinners on Thursday nights. Just those are the best,
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and those are the things, like you said, you missed
the most and that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You you can never get back no matter how much
you try and recreate it. There was a time where
it just flipped for you as a player. When did
you feel like that moment was?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
That's what I was going as actually, because I missed it,
it was.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I can I can very distinctly tell you when it was.
And I've told this story a couple of times, and
I always preface it by saying, I don't recommend this for.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
People, but this is what it was for me.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
So I came in UH as a rookie and I
started they I was drafted eleven, so they put me
as a starter right away, and I'll never forget Amobiya
Koy was incredible about it. He was the guy before me,
but he helped me learn, knowing full well that I
was taking his spot.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Moby was awesome.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
But I came in and they put me in that
role right away, and I started to struggle a little bit,
like especially in the first few games, like I was
playing three technique and I was getting cut off by
the guard on these backsides. And so I got into
a game and I think it was the fourth game
of the season against the Ravens and Marshall Yonder's the
guard and I get cut off on this as a
three technique and I come off the sideline and Bill
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Colard just rips me to shreds. You guys know, I
mean just rips me to shreds. I go out the
next series, same thing, just get cut off again. I
come back to the sideline. Colard just destroys me. The
third time, I get cut off again. I come to
the sideline. Colar looks at Cap, our trainer, and goes
Cap take his helmet away.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
He's never going back in this game.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
So I'm sitting there on the sideline like as a rookie,
just dejected, like I suck at football. My coach hates me.
I'm never going to play again. This is the worst
thing ever. We get on the flight we go home.
On the way home, I literally lived.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
At the old Spanish Trail apartments right over here.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
So I stopped at the cross off of the grocery
store right over here. I pick up a twelve pack
and I go to my house. I'm like, this sucks.
I'm just going to drink by myself. So I go
and I drink by myself. And I ended up cutting
on some high school highlights just because I was like,
I need to feel good about myself, like that I
can play football.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So I start cutting on some high school highlights.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I start cutting on some college highlights, and I'm getting
like seven or eight deep here, and all of a sudden,
I'm like.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You know what you got. You can be this as
you want.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
But that guy, that guy I'm good at football, like
those guards, like I'm good at football, like if I'm
gonna go out, I was trying to be so perfect
with my technique, with my hands, with my feet. I
was trying to do it exactly how he taught on
every single play. And I finally that night, probably because
of the libationians, I was like, just go out there
and play, man. If you get cut, and if you
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don't make it, at least do it your way. And
so then I started playing a little more free, and
they started giving me a little more freedom. But it
was a combination of then Bill would reined me in
with I gave some of my freedoms, and then he
was able to rain me back in and teach me
the technique that I needed, and somehow it magically married
up and turned into a great player. But Bill Kohlar
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absolutely hated him for about the first eight weeks of
my NFL career, and now I love him like you know,
a best friend, and I'm so thankful for him. And
then I got to give credit to Wayde Phillips. Wade
Phillips was an unbelievable man to play for and gave
me so much confidence that I never would have had
if it weren't for him.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Trust me, I had to go to back for you.
In as funny as it sounded like, Dre No.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
You know when you first took off, every question here
will you go man' is that white boy really that good?
And trust me, hey, I got to enjoy out him.
You know, I'm going back and running through practice. I'm
looking at the one on ones. I love to watch it,
you know what I mean. So for me as a
player playing with you, like, I just got to let
you know just how I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Was like you made my job easier every time we
took the field.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And now, looking back on it, like you say, I
don't even know when it took off, because before I knew,
it was seventeen sacks, eighteen twenty back to back to back.
And then they put you on offense. People see some
of the interceptions in the game. I had to watch
you destroy some of my defenders in practice. I was like, man,
this dude is getting out of hand.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
No, I gotta tell you guys man like you Jack
d Man, like all the guys in the back end,
like for a defensive lineman, it makes our job so
incredibly easy. And I think that was the beauty of
why Wade Phillips defense works so well. Wade loves cover
one like he wants to run cover one. He wants
to run man a man, you can't do it if
you don't have dogs at corner. And we had you
and j Jo and guys out there shutting people down.
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So for me, it was sack city because I just
got to eat. I give a ton of credit to
you guys. I always talk about Obviously Aaron Donald's an
unbelievable player. He played in the Wade Field system as well.
Same thing like dogs on the back end, let the
front end eat, and that's when football is really fun.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
But I remember when it's chance.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You thought you can just walk around like you say,
you went to the grocery store, got a toil pack,
and then all of a sudden it.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Became you couldn't even go into the gallery of the mall.
Talk about how that felt.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
It was a little wild, because you know, I'm a
kid from Wisconsin. I come down to Houston. I've never
been here before, and so I'm going to Cavenders and
They're getting my cowboy hat and cowboy boots. Like I'm
walking around atb like getting my groceries, and then I
think it was probably like I mean, it was definitely
the playoff game after that, where like you go to
AGB and you're like, all right, this is taking like
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an hour and forty five minutes to get my groceries
because everybody wants pictures, and then it just kind of snowballed,
and then you're doing the commercials and then everything starts
to blow up, and nobody can ever prepare you for
how to handle it, Like nobody could have ever taught
me or told me how to handle it, because you
just kind of have to experience it. And there's definitely
certain things that I would look back on and like,
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having the wisdom I have now, I would handle them
differently and I would do things differently. But I also
realized the life I have is because of it, and
so I'm unbelievably grateful. I have a connection with the
city of Houston, Texas that never in my wildest dreams
would I imagine that here would be I feel like family.
But every time I get here and I step off
the plane or I walk around, it truly truly feels
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like family. And I think you guys probably feel that
the same, Like something about it. They've embraced me, and
I'm so grateful.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Grand Is.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
We flew back on that plane from the empty the
Music Awards.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
We should have partied that night.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
One of those things, one of those things like where
I'm like, did you really need to get back that night?
Like like I was like, there's a lot of stuff
like that that I looked at where I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Like, all right, so why were you so tough?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Didn't matter on March thirtieth that you were in the gym.
You couldn't have couldn't have had one night with your
boys in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Country Country. Yeah, Like I got a.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Jet, brought a bunch of the guys and then like
I was like, no, we got to get back from
the train the next day.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Everybody's like, dude, just let us party, and I was like, no,
we need to get back. So y'all went from the
show straight straight back.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Come on party like yeah, like stupid, Yeah, talk about
stuff that you look back on.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
You Arnold Schwarzen Niggas asking Ben Jones to come party
with Ben Jones doing an Arnold impression back to him,
and I'm saying, no, let's get back to playing.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's crazy because yeah, I know I was a little jealous.
I see y'all guys on that trip. I ain't getting
to make that trip. I think I was big into
the Country Music Awards. No, I'm not taking to it.
I just wanted to go to it was it was fun. Man.
We had we had coursery, had Ben being Jack Jack.
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It is a good trip of a trip. Hold on
and see you like stay at the practice, like I remember.
I think it was the Hard Knocks thing, and it
was one like they showed you like staying at the
practice and I I was in Indie I think at
the time when that the Hard Knocks was here, and
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I I got was like, man, is he really liked that?
Like you know, like does he like really do that?
And I'm like yeah, like he worked his ass off,
Like so what what what do you think that came from?
Like what you know? What made you?
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I think part of it is how I was raised,
Like I said, my parents, that's what they taught me.
Literally they taught me like you're being you want to
be great, work to be great, put in the work.
And then once I got to the NFL, it was
people are paying millions of dollars fans are watching.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Like, you better go out there and earn that. So
there was that in me. But then there was.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Also the part of me that felt that obligation to
this place, to my teammates, to the city, that I
had to be that person. And now I fully understand
that people would question it. Some people look at it
called cheesy whatever it is, and there's there's definitely some cheesy.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That I'm like, like, you were a little cheesy.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
But the one thing that was never cheesy was the work.
Like there might be some things with you know, trying
to act like Captain America and some of like the
squeaky clean image and all that, but the work was
never a joke. Like that was always true because I
and it probably was a part of my downfall, honestly,
with some of my injuries. Like I thought I was superman.
I thought that I could lift every weight in the gym.
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I thought I could run routes with the receivers. I
thought I could do sprints with the DBS squa like
like I just thought like and like when I when
I got injured, I was like, oh, I'm going to
be back faster than anybody in history has ever been back.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
You want to know the crazy thing. It's funny you
bring that up about you felt like you can go
through anything. I remember when you dislocated your elbow in
training count and I I can I can remember it
so vividly. It was like you could hear a rap
his on car, like everybody got so quiet, like the
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fans everybody. And I'm sitting there, I'm like, oh, like
this just this just didn't happen. But I remember seeing
you in the training room and it was like a
couple of days lady, push up and I'm like, what
do from the pounce back, like like he's doing push ups.
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You literally just just located you a couple of days ago,
and now you're doing push ups. So it's just like,
what what was it like? You just always felt like
you can always come back. Man, I thought I was superman.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I'm telling you, like, especially then because I didn't so
so that day that was Brian Cushion play line back
in your foster.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I saw it. I was unbelievable. He literally ran through
your My arm was in the.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Worst position if you saw two trains coming down the track.
I stuck my arm between both of them, and Arian
came this way and Chris came this way, and my
arm is right here and just poof, so my elbow
faced in the other way. Cap our trainer comes out
and he's like, oh, yeah, that's this okay. And I'm like, no,
cap is facing the wrong way, and he goes, all right,
I'm gonna put it back in.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
He goes to put it back in, bone on bone
he missed, and then he goes to put it back
in again. He gets it in.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
He goes, oh, wow, this is my first time doing that.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I was like, yeah, I can tell you missed the
first time, dude.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So then I got to go to the hospital and
get on my MRIs and or anything. But like you said,
they pop it back in. Basically tell me I have
no tendons left, but we're not going to fix it
because I'm not a picture so I don't need the tendence.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I don't know any better. So I'm like all right.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Two days later, I'm like, let me just see how
I feel. I do a push up on the desk
and then they call doctor Lowe over and doctor low
watches me do a push up.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And he's like, I've never seen that before.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
And so me, I'm like, damn right, you haven't like,
damn right, you haven't seen that before, Like wait till
you see what I'm about to do. And he's like, well,
there's no way you're gonna be ready.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
For the first week.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
But I think in a couple weeks I was like, funny, fuddy,
I got this and then and I think that just
honestly built my confidence for that and some of my
naivity and innocence and stupidity, because I just from that
point forward, I was like, nothing can stopped me.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I'm fine. Man.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I had never heard JJ tell that story. If I
don't know Je's ever told that story. I did not
know that was the case.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That was that was some awesome stuff, talking about his
elbow injury early in his career, and then of course
he wore that brace for the remainder of his career
as a crutch he leaned on but kind of liked it.
He looked badass with it too. Call all kinds of footballs.
I saw something posted on Twitter today from my buddy
Ben Finel, who works for ESPN CBS. There's a lot
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of different stuff NFL films, and he posted a tweet
from five years ago, was during COVID. He was like, man,
JJ Watt could have been one hell of a tight end.
JJ Watt was a great tight end. He was incredible.
And the video below was him going one on one
against Christian Kirksey against the Browns at twenty fourteen, which
was incredible. One of one Watt against Kirksey and what
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makes a great fade catch in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
It was. He was incredible.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
He was absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
All Right, We got more with JJ and Andre and
j jo on Goat Talk coming up next on Texans
All Access sapping everybody. Welcome back to Tuesday edition of
Texans All Access from the Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host,
Jean Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans
and it is ninety nine's night. I'll go talk, so
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that means we get J Joe and Andre Johnson as well.
When we left the discussion, JJ talked about his elbow injury. Well,
Andre took it a little further discussing this injury and
Cush took some strays, Brady James took some strays. This
is great stuff. As Andre recalled that moment when JJ
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injured his elbow early in his career.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, Bro, I swear like I can remember very vividly.
I remember seeing Cush run to your arm because I
wasn't even in on the plate when it happened, so
I remember I'm staying on the sideline, and when I
saw it, I'm like, oh no, like I know, this
just didn't happen, right, I remember you talking about it.
You said, Cush ran right. Yeah, I'm like me, you
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gotta think I'm thinking, I'm like, why could you do that?
Like I'm pissing because I'm like, think about thinking about
that squad. But it was I think we were we
were doing like a live so I was tackling.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Think about that craziness of that sentence. Alon like you
got Brian Cushing, Arian Foster myself.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
If I remember it correctly, who's really coming down here?
Brady James.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Love Brady James. Love some Brady James.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I never forget because when that happened, when I just
okay me elbow, Coolar looked like he was going to cry,
And that was the first moment that I was like,
this guy actually.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Cares about me. I was like, yeah, you know, what
he's all right when that happened, and and that's that's
when I'm like, you already taken off at that time
in your career, but like when that happened, just to
see the way that people reacted, Like everybody was like what,
like all right, because you know we were thinking, like
he's going to be out for some games. You know,
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we don't know when he had come back. But to
see you doing push ups like a few days later,
I'm like.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Well that was also a few days after Wade. I
always give Wade credit for this. Wade before my second
season ever started. So I mean this was like I
had a decent end of the rookie year, but I
hadn't done anything crazy yet.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And Wade had told the media like he's going to
be a.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Bust, not a not a first round bus, but a
Hall of famer. And I read that, literally read it
in the paper, and I was like, Wade Phillips like
coach Reggie White, like coach he just said, I'm going
to be a Hall of Famer. There's something about when
somebody you look up to believes in you, and like
it's kind of like I told you my parents before
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when they put that they bestow that upon you, you all
of a sudden have no choice but to become a
bigger version of yourself and fulfill that destiny. And so
I always give Way credit because he put a belief
in me that I didn't even have myself at that time,
and all I wanted to do was make him right.
They also told me he's stood on the table for
me to get drafted here, so my whole career, I
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just wanted to prove Wade right and make him proud
of me.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
We and Brady James was actually on the plane we
were coming from a game, and he came over to me.
We were just talking and he was like, it was
like Dre. It was like, jj gonna be that dude.
And I'm like, I'm like really Like he was like, no, Dre.
He was like, Drake, he that good. And I never
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shared that with you until now. But we were coming
up with I can't I can't remember where we were
coming from. I think it might have been a preseason
game or something, but it was early like in the
in the year, and he who was sitting on a
plane and we were just talking and he shared that
with me, and it's it's crazy, like you say, you
don't know. Just people having that belief in you, it
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gives you so much confidence to, you know, want to
accomplish more.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Brady was Brady to me was a very underrated player
here because he doesn't get enough credit.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Brady Arry, Yeah, Mary, like a from.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
A leadership standpoint, b those we were top two, top
three defense at that time, and a big part of
it was because Brady allowed me to be me so like,
I'm well aware that I.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Just always said that to me. He was like, Drake,
I will let him do him and I'm a fix whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Yes, it was unbelievable and he was so selfless about it.
And at the same time, I had Jared Criek on
the other side, who did the same thing.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Quick knew he was going to have.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
He was like, I'm not going to have these big
sack numbers. I'm not going to have anything flashy, but
I'm going to push the pocket on the other side.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
So you do what you do on your side, and
Brady was right behind me. The exact same thing is
in the pocket.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I know damn well that quarterback is knocking to escape
off criickside. So it's up to me to make the play.
But Brady was the same way. Like Brady basically, he
would stare at me and he'd be like, you take
whichever gap you want.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I got the other one.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Not everybody's like that because everybody else wants their own numbers,
they want their own stats. But he knew that I
had those instincts to take that advantage, and he had
my back. And I'll never forget Brady for that. And
then I when I talk about Thursday dinners, I always
think about Brady James because he was like an older
vet at those Thursday dinners, literally sometimes teaching me how
to use which fork at a steakhouse, like how to
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order oysters, like I never order oysters before. He teach
me how to eat oysters, like Antonio Smith taught me
how to eat sushi for the first time. Like those
are the things you remember, you know. He took me
to Caldara Robata for the first time ever. I'd never
eaten sushi before, besides the grocery store sushi. Now I
scored Cola Robata once a week because it's my favorite
restaurant in the world. So like, those are the coolest
things man.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Being at the top.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Worst thing about sports is the entry part, you know,
and obviously when you the guy that's the first time,
you probably feel like, well you excluded, all right, they
don't need me, they ain't talking to.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Me as much.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Talk about that feeling, because you know, it takes to
be in that position to actually understand it.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
What like you almost helpless.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
It's the worst feeling in the world because not only
are you trying to physically heal and get yourself back,
but you feel like you're letting everybody down. And sometimes
you put that weight on your own shoulders when not
everyone's even putting it on you, you're putting it on yourself.
So like I'm sitting there in the training room every
day while you guys are at practice, and I'm thinking, man,
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I make a lot of money, I make a lot
of plays, like I want to help this.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I want to do.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Anything possible, and right now I'm just a sack of
potatoes sitting on this table. And every day I would
just beat myself down like thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And it was.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Every time a guy now gets injured, I try and
talk to them and teach them that that's not the
mindset to have, because like it's sports, everybody you're going
to get in if you play long enough, you're going
to get injured.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's just how it goes. So I really try.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Now one of my biggest things is helping young guys
understand if they get injured, the mindset and the mentality
of it is just as important as the physical part,
because I will break you down.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Man. I've just been some very very dark days on
game day when you know, when they would always give us,
like the two minutes before we would go out for
warm ups. I never put my shoulder pads on until
it was like, receive us two minutes, you know, and
we'll go out. That was like my switch. What was
your switch?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Well, first of all, you were always the coolest dude
in the room anyways. Literally, you could be in any
room in the world, you're the coolest dude in it.
So I was never going to try and compete on
a cool aspect of that. But mine, it's kind of
funny because mine, I would always get so hyped up
before the game, too hyped up, way too hyped up
in warm ups, like jacked up. So after warm ups
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when you come back in, before intros and all that.
I learned that I had to calm myself down. So
I go in the training room, I put my headphones on.
I turn on the dell because I just needed Like
I was like, dude, you got it. You're gonna lose
all of your energy. So I go in, I put
on a Dell and I would sit there for like
five six minutes just listen to it down and be like,
all right, calm down, It's all gonna be good. As
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soon as I was done with that, Connor Barman taught
me this trick. I go into the steam room. I
put my helmet on, my shoulder pads on. I go
into the steam room because it helped, Like you know
how your helmet sometimes is a little stiff when you
first put it on. So he taught me, if you
go in the steam room, everything settles into your body.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And it really did, and so.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
It kind of lathered me up, and like I went
out there, I was like, I already feel like I
had like a quarter under me, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
So that's what I did.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
And then I went out there, and I mean, the
crowd hits and they play turned down for water.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Like you make a play and then life just life
is good. Is there anything you wish you could do
over as it takes a billion things.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I always say, like anybody who tells you they don't
have any regrets is either lying or the perfect person.
Because there's there's plenty of things that I now do.
I look at some things and I learned from them,
I grew from them. I became a better person because
of them, absolutely, But there's plenty of things I wish
I would have done different. And as you gro older,
you have wisdom. I think I could have been a
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better leader. I think I could have been better about
my injuries and my rehabs and being smarter about managing
myself so that I could stay on the field and
be more useful.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I think I could have you.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
I always say, you don't realize the good old days
until they're the good old days, Like appreciating every moment
and understanding when I was in it how special it was,
and not running off after a night of the Country
of Music Awards, and like thinking you have.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
To spring back to the weight room, like trying to
take it in.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
I do think there's a big part of me that
I missed out on really embracing.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Those moments and those memories.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
And I think that's probably The biggest thing that I
would do slightly differently is not not speed through it all.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, I remember I got you to come to New
Year's party. I did. Oh yeah, that might have been
the first time. I always think you have to care
about that. I remember, like I was telling my friends.
I was like, man, I'm gonna get j J. And
they were like, man, come, I'm like, I tell me.
If Andre tells me something, I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But I get it now though, like back then, I
wouldn't thinking like you, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Have night clubes, man have a lot going on. No,
you might not remember it, but the first time you
ever asked me somewhere. We went to Washington Street, Remember
the guy with yes Yeah, he oh. He was like,
do you know who the hell that is? It was
my rookie year and he was like, let's go out.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
I literally like, you're talking to me like that and
he was like yeah, So it's just me and Andre
and I'm literally like sweating.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I'm like, holy, like I'm out with Andre. He's like,
we canna go to Washington and pull up on Washington. Hey.
If we go to the door, the.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Door man's like, I'm sorry, sir, you can't come in
the shoes they were like all white. I literally I
was like what. He was like, He's like, you can't
come in, man, I go, that's Andre Johnson.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That's Andre. He was like, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
And all of a sudden, this manager came like sprinting
out of the back and he's like, no, they're good.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
They're psychopath.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Like we're in Houston, Texas, and you're gonna tell Andre
Johnson can't come in.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
He could be wearing foot flops if he wants. Unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
But I just I don't think you know and appreciate
what that meant to me, you inviting me out as
a rookie.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Like I was talking to GQ Globe Quinn one day
and he told me he said, man, he said when
I was a rookie, I should be scared to speak
to you. And I was like why, But he was like,
I remember you coming up to me and saying good.
I think he had got like a picking practice or
someone day and he said I walked by him and
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like tapped him like the job and he was like
he was like that gave him like confirmation of like okay,
like Grey speaking to me and I'm like, I was
the most you didn't speak for about I didn't speak
in the locker room a lot, but I was okay
with my teammates, like.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Oh, you you were great, but you get to start
aspect of and I think it's the superstar aspect of.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, but he's also a super super You can't say,
but I would come j Joe.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I would come and sit at a locker every day
and with him and Kjack and we would sit down
there and crack jokes every day at the practice.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
When I was with the Bengals and when we signed too,
Like I didn't say nothing Fatillo for a while, though,
you know, I talked to everybody, but like, I didn't
know what to say at first. I don't know how
you're gonna react. I don't know what I just see
he got this look on his face.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
We all had that because you're up on a pedestal
first of all, and then you don't speak a lot
to begin with, so you're like, I'm definitely not saying
the first person to us, and he's probably not gonna
say any words to me, so you're probably like, oh,
these guys don't talk to me that much. We're like
he doesn't talk to us that much. We're just like
ships in the night passing by. And if you if
you tap me on the on the leg and said
good play, that would have been the same reaction.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
It's like, it's just the same thing with Wade with me.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
You did that to GQ and he probably was like,
Andre believes in me, So now I'm gonna be like you.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You have that effect on everybody something. He wanted me here,
and that's why I don't tell everybody all the time.
I'm like, that's wanted me to call me Houston.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I recruited him here. I didn't know. So we had
a mutual so Fred Bennett, who played corner corner they
played together in college. We were at the wedding and
I see j Joe and because we had played against
each other or whatever, and I just went straight recruitment modes.
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We talked the whole week and you never met before
just acrossing each other. Yeah, but we never had like that, like,
so I really got to know him that weekend. Like
it was lockout too, wasn't Yeah it was lockout? Yeah,
and yeah, so he ended up. I went and told Rick,
I'm like, hey, I think I got Jonathan, you.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Know, so I went right, they want me to come
to Houston.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You were involved, part owner of the soccer team. How
do you get involved in that half?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
I needed something to give me the adrenaline, you guys know,
like there's nothing like game day, like having the adrenaline
or having something you're working towards. And so for me,
I knew I wanted something to fill that void. I've
always been interested in the soccer world. My wife obviously
played for a long time, but the European soccer game
really intrigued me and so I wanted to get involved
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and ended up finding the perfect situation and it has
fulfilled it to a tea because like every Saturday, I
got something to watch and you know, kind of live
and die with every kick, and you still get that adrenaline,
and almost more so because you're like, I can't control anything,
I can't make a play.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
I just I'm hoping these guys make plays.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
But then in the boardroom and a lot of the decisions,
it's it's really been enjoyable for me to learn it
and to be on that ownership side, to see a
completely different world.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
How often do you get to go to the game.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
So last year I went to about ten to eleven games.
This year I've been to three or four.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
So I go over there try and yeah, trying to
get over.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Like four or five times a year because I'm truly
invested in it, like I want to be in I
want to be deep into it so I can know
as much as possible more and also.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Show the people that I care. How is it being
on TV now working with CBS, How is that? It's good? Man?
It's good. Like I love still being around ball.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I love being able to talk football, Like it would
be very weird if I didn't have some tie to
the game because I love watching it, talking about it,
breaking it down. At the same time, I have a
very difficult time criticizing guys because like I was on
the field, like I know, like you got a guy
who breaking down film and he's drawn up the plays,
and you're like, that's not my assignment, that's not my jobs,
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and you just threw all this blame on me on
national TV. So I never want to be that guy.
So I'm always very careful from that standpoint. But it
has been really really fun still being a part of
the game.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Obviously, you can't go because that was pre you. What's
your favorite moment of Andre Johnson the inn.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
A tish Man.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
I mean, we still need a statue of courting Fingerhan outside,
Like if we don't get a statue of that, we fail,
like that we can we can take his number off
of his back or taking him but that has like
we need the statue outside. I'll petition for it today,
like we need.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
That with me, man, But I'm sorry the crazy thing
I tell people all the time. I think I get
asked about that every day in my life. It's the
most bad and it's crazy because I almost get to
a point to where you're just tired of talking about it.
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But everybody, like they come in, they be like what happened?
So you have to explain the story over and over
and because it's.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
You, like everybody who knows you knows like you you
had to do something crazy to get that out of
Dre Like you would never get that. But I would
say for me in my career with you, that one
overtime play against Jacksonville comes to mind immediately where you
took that.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
It was like a public screening out, like that was
awesome for me. It was like we were talking about before.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
It's literally the locker room, like walking around the locker room,
walking around practice, walking around.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I grew up as a Miami fan. I don't know
why because they.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Were awesome when I was a kid, but like it
truthfully was like seeing you in our locker room, knowing
that I was on the same team, knowing that we
were teammates and like buddies. To me, that was cooler
than any play on the field, just knowing that I
was fortunate enough to be able to play.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
What is the most thing you get asked as by fans?
Speaker 5 (40:24):
The first thing comes to mind is just selfie's an autograph,
because that's obviously that's I mean, it's it's daily lately,
which has been a transition, which is interesting. There's a
lot of people obviously asking about my brother now or
sometimes people be like are you teaching?
Speaker 3 (40:35):
And they hang out a.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Second, I'm not ready for that, man like, which is good,
but no, I around here, it's been They ask about
the Charity Classic a lot are we going to do it?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Are we not?
Speaker 5 (40:50):
And no, I would say, uh, you got you guys
have made it great. And then a lot about the hurricane,
Like there's there's been a lot of people who have
They just come up and let's say thank you, and
I try and tell them like it was everybody else. Man,
I'll never forget that for the rest of my life, the.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Way so many different people stepped up and help. What
is it like, man, to actually, now that you're not
playing anymore, to sit and just watch that the CEE
you're a brother and a type of player he is
in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
First of all, I'm proud, like it's I'm so proud
to have watched both of them, to watch Derek play,
to watch TJ play, But for TJ especially because we
play a very similar position and we're wired so similarly.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
As I watch the.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Game, it's like I'm watching myself, and so I can
put myself in those situations. I can kind of think
what he's thinking. So immediately after the game we're talking
and I'm like, what this play?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Were you thinking this?
Speaker 5 (41:45):
And be like, yeah, I was thinking that, Or He'll
be like I was thinking about possibly using this move.
And so how lucky are we that we get to
have these conversations at the highest level of the game
that nobody else ever gets to have, Like it's to us,
it's the coolest thing the world that my brother calls
me and asks about an NFL pass rush move because
we both got to do it at this level.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
It's it's really really cool, man.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
And I've always said it, but I truthfully hope he
breaks every single.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Record I've ever had, and I think he probably will.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
But if we're talking about best single year ever, he's
gonna have the better career, He's gonna have a better career.
But there's a four year stretch where.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
He couldn't stamp it stap. You're talking about cool? How
cool is he?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
You know?
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Obviously we growing up we got to see like Ridgie
White and all those guys on the Chunky.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
Soup commercials all that, How cool is it?
Speaker 3 (42:38):
They have your mom and dad and commercially it's cool, man,
it's cool. It's it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
The most fun about those is filming him because, like
you know, how it is, brothers and sisters, like nobody
rags on you like your family. So we get into
a commercial shooting and we get all of us there
and my dad flubs a line and we just all
over him.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Man.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
They're like my brother flubs the line, and the outtakes
are the best part. So, like I said, we're living
life experiences that people only dream about, and we know
how lucky we were and we're so thankful, so anytime
they come along, we just try and appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
A ring of honor. Tell me what that moment was like, man,
because I remember sitting on the field with you, and
you know, you seem to like I could tell it
got to you a little bit. You know, it's definitely
because it gives you. I always tell people it gives
(43:30):
you a time to reflect on what you've accomplished throughout
your career. Tell me about that moment. I remember sitting
on the field with you, and you seem like it
kind of yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
I mean, that was my first time being back in
the stadium since I had left on a game day,
So there were a ton of emotions just from that
standpoint alone, before even myself thinking about what the ring
of honor and everything meant.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
So walking back into.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
The stadium and seeing the fans and seeing the field
laid down and randling, and the emotions like it all
comes back and you're just like, damn, this is man,
Like this this is what I love and this is
what I miss. And then you see your name up
in the Ring of honor next to you and mister McNair,
and you think about how that's going to be there forever.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yes, sir, that name is going to be in the
rafters forever.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
J J.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Watt Man.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
That was a really fun goat talk between JJ, the
guest and the hosts Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph. Okay,
we get back. We'll go round the NFL. Two NFL
draft prospects for this draft.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
We'll have their.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Numbers retired at Colorado over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
We'll discuss next the Texans Access We Go one final
segment this Tuesday edition of Texans All Access. Sean Harris,
your host, SALO reporter Amphible analys for your Houston Texans
getting ready for the draft. Obviously, So the draft is always, well,
it's at the forefront of my mind pretty much twenty
four to seven, three sixty five, and especially at this
(45:05):
time of year. So news from some prospects at the
University of Colorado, Travis Hunter and Shdor Sanders will have
their numbers retired, number twelve and number two, respectively. And
I think this is one of the dumbest things that
I have seen. As John mcclan would say, this is
one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Shaduor wasn't even All American. He's first team All Big
Twelve and he's Offensive Player of the Year into Big Twelve. Great,
they went thirteen games together. That's it. This is absolutely
the most asinine thing I've ever seen in my life.
There are schools that you have a formula. University of
North Carolina basketball, they have a formula for guys that
(45:50):
get their jerseys up in the rafters and you gotta
be I think it's you gotta be All American on
three of the different services, or you have to be
acc Player of the Year or something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
You get your jersey.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
They're afters. There's a formula for it. Colorado's four jerseys
retired four. They're guys like Eric Bienemy who are instrumental
in the National championship run. Darian Hagen instrumental in the
National championship run. Alfred Williams was I think a two
time All American from h Town on that national championship team.
(46:22):
There are dudes that absolutely should have their numbers retired.
Not this guy, Travis, you can maybe convince me, but
SR Sanders.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Number eight time.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
This is the dumbest thing I've ever ever seen. And
if you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Do it, make him wait.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
But they want.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Thirteen flipping games. That's it. It's the I've been listening
to this story all day and it's driven me absolutely crazy,
absolutely the nuts. And you see teams, like I said,
that have a formula. I don't know what the formula is.
I don't know whose idea this was, but it's I
(47:04):
don't even care if it's Prime. And you guys know,
I like Prime. I like Prime as a coach. There
are some things that he does. It drives and be crazy,
but I think he's got common old school nature to him.
I sure hope that he's not the one behind us
because that just doesn't speak to how a coach to
handle things. So next year's quarterback Julian Lewis ends up
(47:26):
being fresh roll American. It's his number retired before the
seasons even over, don't I don't. I just I'm dumb founded,
to say the least. But two former Texans are five
found well. One is founder new Home Max Sharping. When
he signed with the Steelers, but Ross Blacklock. He of
Elkins High School TCU. It was a textas second round
(47:46):
pick of twenty twenty. He has been released by the
New York Giants.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
All right, that's it for the show.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Appreciate JJ Watt, Andre Johnson, and Jonathan Joseph for their
go talk.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
He was awesome.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Appreciate all you guys, Love y'all. We'll see them all
and it's out. Script Texans
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