July 25, 2023 • 20 mins
The day before training camp started, Drew Dougherty of Texans TV huddled with Team Analyst/Radio Sideline Reporter John Harris to discuss a highly-anticipated position battle or two.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different
look at things to Doherty and John Harris have their
lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.
Here's Drew.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Training camp is upon us, Training camp Eve is upon us.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is Texans in the Lab.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'mrew Doherty, John Harris here, what training camp is this
for you? Because I'm thinking I started nine season, so
I really wasn't at the end of training camp and
I don't I'm not going to count that one. So
ten was my first one. Everyone since ten, I've been
at what about you? O?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Seven was my first?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, you like waited out tender gas back a lot.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Oh man, I'm glad you're reminded me. I gotta get
that if I got to post that story somewhere. Yeah,
for those people that that don't know this story. Sean
and I Sean Peergass Sports Radio six ten and I
we used to do show together and so we had
been on.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
The air and where were we even on the air
at that point?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
No, we weren't even on the air at that point,
but we knew that we were going to be right
shortly thereafter, and so we didn't know the whole protocol
all like, so long story short. We got to this
the teal a lot really really early, like six forty
five in the morning, early for at nine o'clock practice.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
So we decided instead of just all right, we're here,
just let's.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Nap or get on the phone or whatever, we just
decided to, you know, kind of hang out there.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Also, this truck pulled alongside me, and I kind of
startles me.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I look up and I'm like Sean, and this guy
knocks on my window and I'm like what And he's
going like this like roll you in and down, roll
you in it out.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I'm like, I don't know, I want to do this.
You roll the window down. I look over there and
guy's like, hey, you guys here to be able a
goal post?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
What to build goalposts?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
These are the guys apparently that were installing the goalposts
on the practice fields. And I look it said nope,
not building any goalpost today.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Powe.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So eventually a couple of hours later, practice did start.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
We were the first ones in and ever since I've
been shown to practice really really early.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
But Sean always loves when I show that story. So
that was O seven.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
So I did seven eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
so seven before I got into the building and then
it's been ten.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's my tenth from inside the building.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
So this would be on a seventeenth training camp, which
is kind of wild to think about.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Man, it's seventeen.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, it's been nuts, man about it because O seven
that's Tamiko Ryan's second year's NFL exactly right. Garry Kubiak
was the head coach, right, that's the first year of
the Texans were not losers.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
They were eight and eight.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And I'm speaking solely in the sense of one loss,
not like you know you are a loser, sure, right
in I knew we're all bad.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You're a winner if you've made it to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So yeah, that it's wild thinking about all the stuff
that has come full circle. This morning, on the way
into work, we stopped at Eleanor Tinsley Park on the
edge of downtown and shot the stand ups. Like the
stand up is a TV term for introduction.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Basically, I say this, please real fast.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I love the fact that you've been going around to
all these different h town locations and shooting them. Dude,
it looks awesome, It sounds awesome. It's just I mean,
it's it's awesome. I have some suggestions, Okay, places that
you could go.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Let's veer off topic and do that, because what to
let people know? A lot of Texans three sixties, which
you can watch Saturday night, ABC thirteen KTRK at eleven
pm or on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
A lot of the time.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
We've shot at Eleanor Tinsley Park, which I think that's
my favorite because it's got that whole yeah, you know,
and then it's got the muscular Houston skyline behind it.
But then we've also shot on the east Side, which
has been cool spot where there's these murals and you
can shoot one way looking at them, or you can
just shoot the east side of downtown. We've done Herman Park,
(04:00):
which offers yeah, yeah, yeah, zillion great shots. I got
engaged there in between the obelisk and the pond at
the zoo. But we shot with the General sam h
Town's statue on a horse.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Is it General sam Htown? Would you call it?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I think that's right. I think that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah. So there's lots of lots of spots, So what are.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You here's my suggestion, and it's gonna be kind of
boring and and not as not as sexy as the
ones you've been. However, it hopefully brings together h town
and the sport of football. What about shooting your stand
ups at all the different football stadiums that we have
in the city, like shooting shooting from outside you know
(04:38):
del Mar, shooting from outside the e CU Tully Stadium,
you know, even some of the you know, smaller stadium
Butler Stadium, you know, going off the roads and Katie,
you know, yeah, I mean there are so many of
up in the northwest corner is it Berry Stadium?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
There's one out there that's got a double decker.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I mean I gave that a thought kind of even
for my own, but that that'd be kind of cool.
Is kind of those in Hey, we're gonna shoot from
Tully or or wherever and get some get some shots
from there.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So so, I can't remember if you've been in these meetings,
but we've seen some things over the last few months,
uniform wise in the Houston Texans in the years to come.
So prototypes, Brother, if there's one that it looks like
this is the one that might get chosen as an alternnit,
I'm just gonna say you know where they need to
(05:26):
shoot those uniforms with the backdrops. They need to go
bell Air Boulevard and the toll Way.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
M hm, shoot in towards.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Town with all that neon stuff at night. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Oh look, we might need to shoot a show stand
up there because that's a cool different h Town specific vibe.
I went to high school over there, and the street signs,
you know, it's Guessner and bel Air and on top
of them, and you know in script got the names
of the street signs. But that's the unique place in
(05:57):
the city I'm thinking about. But yeah, if you're listening
to this, shoot us a tweet and say, hey, you
should consider this one because location, Yeah what location. I
love the the idea of the high school of college stadiums.
I think we're gonna do one at night at some
point be on and uh yeah, I'm on game. And
we've ping ponged around to some other spots as well,
(06:19):
so uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We food spot location, any food spots maybe we could?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We should? Why not.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
It's gotta be a food truck park somewhere. Uh that's
that's a good one. So I'm I'm I'm down for
a food truck any any time of day, which obviously
that you can see from my figure.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Silberger's is the scene. We're gonna have Tilberger's here in
the stadium again this year.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
See a video James harden Uh stealing like four from Bunbee.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
The other day Drake Mike Tyson was in there, the champ.
I'd love to get a picture.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, if there's an athlete you'd want to have a
picture with, who would it be that you've never had
one with? Because I think we've had pictures with JJ
and Hop and you know a bunch of guys that
have been here.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
If you if you had an.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Athlete to take a picture with, just one on one,
cool picture, smile, put in a frame up on your
shell for whatever the case might be.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The refrigerator, Harry really one, Okay, I'd love dream I've
never got I have an autograph Bastall one of my
good friends got me an autograph dream basketball. I'd love
a picture with him. I'd like one with he was fun.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Who about you?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
What about you?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Who would you want?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I think i'd have to go in the in the
way back a little bit and not really Nolan.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, he would be cal Ripken me for too.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Cal Ripken Jr.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Is such a fascinating story since it's story time when
I when I was a coach in the nineties, I
coach with the guy named Storm Davis. Yes, and Storm,
but jovid picture in the Major leagues. Man Storm was
just an awesome, awesome dude. Well he was the head
varsity coach. He just become the head varsity coach. And
I was the jv baseball coach.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You want to ring with the eighty three oh's and
with the eighty nine.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
And he told the story of the earthquake when it hit. Yeah,
he was in there, his wife, His wife was in
the building, and he said, it's the most incredible story.
But he said that when he moved to the Orioles,
or went to the Orioles, he always struggled with the Indians.
It was Kory Schneider, that was Joe Joe Carter, and
(08:23):
it was a good Indians lineup. Sandy Alamar, I think
was a catcher in that point. That was a good
it was a good Indians lineup, and and Storm struggled
with him. So when Storm got to the Orioles, he said,
Cal pulled him aside and said, look, man, I know
you know, he struggled with the Indians, and he reached
his locker and he pulled her a notebook and he
went through every single hitter on the Indians with Storm,
(08:45):
every single one. And it got to a point where
Cal called the game from short for Storm not only
against the Indians, but also for the rest, you know,
the rest of the time that he was the he did.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That, he was that that kind of rankled some guys.
And I don't I don't want this. It's like, you
got they get overruled. Yeah, that was an interesting throwing
a four hitter before hit complete game the first time.
He's like, Okay, I'll go with this, he said, and
he cows. And Cal wrote about in his book. He
wrote about that specifically. So I'm not kind of a
(09:21):
turn of telling that.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
But i remember Storm telling me that story and I
was like that, dude, yeah, Cal ripken, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, you know, Davis, I think was step brothers with Yes, Yes,
there were there was a Yeah, there was a there
was some relation.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
They were both I think they were both from Storm
was from Jacksonville, so there was a Jacksonville connection.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I think for me, you know a Keem. A Keem
would be one.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
I remember interviewing him with Deep for one of our
games when we were doing the Jealous the pregame and
his kids at the time were going to the same
school where my wife work. My wife worked and my
daughter graduated from village school and and so I we
kind of connected and we talked for a while about that.
It was just it was just really it was really cool,
(10:07):
and I wish I would have had I wish I
would have had a picture. Mine would probably be Premier
League star Kevin de Bruyne from my favorite team, my
team Man City. He's I think he's Belgian. I think
he's the best soccer player in the world. You can
have mess you have all of them. Kevin de Bruyne is,
That's my guy. So I would have liked to have
(10:28):
done that when they were here, but I couldn't get
down on the field for it. So he would definitely
be one for sure that I would do, which is
weird for me to say, you know, soccer, but I
think Tom Brady and I say this because he was
so good it was so frustrating to go against him.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I always liked Brady.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I always I always. I liked the story of Brady.
I just liked the fact that he was slower. It
wasn't this great. You know, he was a six round pick.
He's picked one ninety nine. He's got a fight through this.
I just I love about Brady. I I could say,
I could say it how so, yeah, Tom Brady would
be that one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
We're going to see a lot of him, uh here
in August, and we'll hear a lot of him on
the radio here with us. I was, we're talking with
him the other day and he said when he played
against Brady when he was with the Texans at six
or seven.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Here, I think they won on the road, went.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
On the road to Fox for he said Brady was
looking would come to the line of scrimmage and look
at the defense, and he said it was like he
was looking through us, my kid. He knew exactly what
he was going to do, how he's going to do it,
and the success that he was going to have. It
was an interesting way the way uh wait, and he
phrase it so yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
One of the things that Bill O'Brien had told us
for years.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I actually told the story the other day to a
couple of my good friends and we were talking about
this and we were talking about Brady, and I said,
you know, Billy used to used to tell us, you know,
I we just asked him. Look, he coached Brady like
what made him great? He was like his recall, He said.
His recall is ability to look at something on film
and go, hey, that's something that this team did against
(12:06):
me ten years ago, and he would be absolutely dead
on And at first Bill was kind of like.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Okay, man, this guy's full of it. He didn't remember that,
and Bill will go pick up the film, like, okay,
what game do you say? Was from Week four?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
See, you know against whatever team Baltimore Ravens and their
DC was this guy and they ran this against this
particular play, and Bill like, I don't you go check
it out? He said, Brady was on it, like absolutely
dead on it. He says recall was as as good
as anybody he'd been around.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And he went to Brown with me. We do some
smart people, he said.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
When it came to football, he said, Brady, his recall
was incredible, absolutely incredible. And I'm convinced after hearing that,
like the great ones, it's not so much the drive
determination like it's the recall it's what they can remember
about how teams played them. You know what Jordan could
remember about how teams fenced him early in his career.
(13:02):
You know what different coaches did against them. Their recall
is what makes them makes them great, absolutely great.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Now, the recall is what made Brady great in college.
What made one of the things that made CJ. Stroud
so great and what made him so attractive as the
second overall pick for the Texans was his accuracy, his
precision like way of getting the ball to his receivers
who were excellent, but still he got it there. And
(13:29):
he's one of the most accurate passers in NCAA history.
So combine that accuracy with the offense in which he's
going to now play under Bobby Slok, which is kind
of a derivative of what we've seen from Kubiak and
Shanahan both Shanhan's really, why is that going.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
To be such a nice marriage?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
You think, Well, for so many reasons. I think one
of the biggest reasons.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
And it's interesting because I was actually watching Universe Houston
from last year, studying a prospect that they have this year,
and within the first in the first quarter, Tank runs
a punt back for a touchdown gets called back. Yeah,
he catches a punt, goes for like thirty five or
forty yards a little bit later that sets up the
(14:17):
first score.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
A field goal.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Then he catches a bomb in a third quarter and
puts him down inside the five, which let their first touchdown.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
And it's like WHOA.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
But the reason I bring up Tank is and he's
probably the best representative of this. When you're that accurate,
you give your players an opportunity A to make catches
they maybe normally wouldn't make, or B to catch and
run without breaking stride. And I think about a guy
like Tank, if he's able to catch and run without
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breaking stride, think about the pressure a defensive back is
under when that happens.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
And that can go for everybody.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
But he also can make throws into spots where receivers
I won't get receivers killed. And I bring I brought
this example before they played Michigan. This is twenty twenty one.
Is in the snow up at ann Arbor and he
had a he had a crossing route deep crossing route
with JSN, Jackson Smith and Jigba and he rifles one
(15:14):
in there to him and Smith and Jigba has to
kind of slide and reach back and make the catch.
And I remember thinking, Okay, bad throw. That's kind of
weird because I haven't seen CJ.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Mack.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And then I went back and watched it.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
I realized, oh, there's a safety driving down on that
crossing route and he had he led him js Sam
was gonna get lit up. So either it's an incompletion
concussion all the above, and instead he threw it purposely
behind him and gave him an opportunity to make a
catch for a first down without getting jays And killed.
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So you make those throws, and there's gonna be a
lot of crossers, you know, throws, you know, guys moving
into open windows. And if he's able with that ball
placement to keep them from taking big hits, they can
make something happen after the catch, or if he sees things,
he can put a ball right in the right spot
where a guy can catch and run. And that is
(16:06):
hugely important because I do think the Texans have some
good catch and run guys in their receiving core, and
so you give them an opportunity to do that. But
also when you're accurate outside the numbers, you take advantage
of size, height, size mismatches. Well, Nico Collins is that
Nico Collins can be that mismatch guy outside the numbers.
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And if CJ's putting a ball in a spot where
only Nico can go get it and make plays, well,
those are big plays that you're gonna come up with.
Doesn't give the defensive back an opportunity to even make
a play on it because the ball is in the
perfect spot. So there's so many different things that ball
placement accuracy help an offense. And this offense, as we
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talked about, is based on precision and being in the
right spot at the right time. And then once you
are on the right spot at the right time, then
you have an opportunity once you get to on your
hands to do something with it. Well, if you have
to reach down low and stop and catch a pass
and you can't do anything afterwards, you're just giving up
some hidden yards. Well, I think CJ can pick up
(17:09):
some of those hidden yards by putting the ball on
the right spot for his pass catchers. That goes for
tight ends, running backs, all those guys, even I mean
running backs.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
It sounds simple.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
You have the little angle route and you hit that
running back with that angle route. If you make them stop, well,
that gives the defense one half step or a extra
step to get to them quickly.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
They don't get much after the catch, but you hit
that running back and stride.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Think about hitting Devin Singletary and Damian Pierce instride on
a linebacker who's kind of frozen trying to cover his
own man, You're gonna pick up that much more yardage
than you would if you throw it behind him. He's
got to stop and catch it. Regather. Now he's running.
Now he's faced up on the lineback. There's so much
that goes into accuracy and being accurate with the football
that can really help this office. Look, it helps every offense,
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but I think this one because of the way that
it has been constructed over the years. Being precise in everything,
precise in how your motion, where a guy's supposed to be,
where you line up, all those kind of things. I
think Bobby Slow and that offensive staff going to hammer
that home for them to be that precise in having
CJ quarterback that is that precise that the football is
going to help out majorly.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
All Right, we got to wrap this up. But when
camp begins on Wednesday. Which matchup are you looking forward
to most seeing? Could be a position group versus a
position group, could be a defensive lineman versus an offensive
lineman receiver.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Quot Who are you looking forward to seeing most?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Now?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well, there are two that stand out to me, and
one is Derek stingingly against Nico Collins one on one.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
That's fully healthy. I think that's going to be a
great battle.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
The other one and I don't know how often this
will happen, maybe not early in camp, but as we
go through we'll see. But I want to see Will
Larrson junior rush against Titus and Laramie. I mean, I
think that's the one where you can see. And my
my favorite moment at training camp last year was Laramie
Tunsil was going one on ones and Mario Addison, who
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had some pass rush moves. Man, he threw a couple
of pass rush moves and he beat Laramie.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
The next rep, Laramie went against somebody else and just
I mean, I can't even remember who it was, but
he just tossed him his side and he's got done.
As he's tossing me the side, he looks over at Addison,
He's like pointing at him like I want him. I
want him again. I want to see him, come on,
let's go. And I thought it was pretty interesting, so
I know Laramy's got that competitive streak even though.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
He's the most chill guy.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I want to see Will Anderson against against Titus and
and Laramie because that's gonna make Will better. That is
gonna make Will better. And I think that Will's attack
and the way that he attacks the pass Rus's gonna
end up making those tackles better too.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I can't wait. It's gonna be fun. Training camp is here.
I'm Drew, that's John. We are Texans in the lab.
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In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different
look at things to Doherty and John Harris have their
lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.
Here's Drew.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Training camp is upon us, Training camp Eve is upon us.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is Texans in the Lab.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'mrew Doherty, John Harris here, what training camp is this
for you? Because I'm thinking I started nine season, so
I really wasn't at the end of training camp and
I don't I'm not going to count that one. So
ten was my first one. Everyone since ten, I've been
at what about you? O?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Seven was my first?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, you like waited out tender gas back a lot.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Oh man, I'm glad you're reminded me. I gotta get
that if I got to post that story somewhere. Yeah,
for those people that that don't know this story. Sean
and I Sean Peergass Sports Radio six ten and I
we used to do show together and so we had
been on.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
The air and where were we even on the air
at that point?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
No, we weren't even on the air at that point,
but we knew that we were going to be right
shortly thereafter, and so we didn't know the whole protocol
all like, so long story short. We got to this
the teal a lot really really early, like six forty
five in the morning, early for at nine o'clock practice.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
So we decided instead of just all right, we're here,
just let's.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Nap or get on the phone or whatever, we just
decided to, you know, kind of hang out there.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Also, this truck pulled alongside me, and I kind of
startles me.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I look up and I'm like Sean, and this guy
knocks on my window and I'm like what And he's
going like this like roll you in and down, roll
you in it out.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I'm like, I don't know, I want to do this.
You roll the window down. I look over there and
guy's like, hey, you guys here to be able a
goal post?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
What to build goalposts?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
These are the guys apparently that were installing the goalposts
on the practice fields. And I look it said nope,
not building any goalpost today.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Powe.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So eventually a couple of hours later, practice did start.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
We were the first ones in and ever since I've
been shown to practice really really early.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
But Sean always loves when I show that story. So
that was O seven.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
So I did seven eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
so seven before I got into the building and then
it's been ten.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's my tenth from inside the building.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
So this would be on a seventeenth training camp, which
is kind of wild to think about.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Man, it's seventeen.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, it's been nuts, man about it because O seven
that's Tamiko Ryan's second year's NFL exactly right. Garry Kubiak
was the head coach, right, that's the first year of
the Texans were not losers.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
They were eight and eight.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And I'm speaking solely in the sense of one loss,
not like you know you are a loser, sure, right
in I knew we're all bad.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You're a winner if you've made it to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So yeah, that it's wild thinking about all the stuff
that has come full circle. This morning, on the way
into work, we stopped at Eleanor Tinsley Park on the
edge of downtown and shot the stand ups. Like the
stand up is a TV term for introduction.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Basically, I say this, please real fast.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I love the fact that you've been going around to
all these different h town locations and shooting them. Dude,
it looks awesome, It sounds awesome. It's just I mean,
it's it's awesome. I have some suggestions, Okay, places that
you could go.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Let's veer off topic and do that, because what to
let people know? A lot of Texans three sixties, which
you can watch Saturday night, ABC thirteen KTRK at eleven
pm or on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
A lot of the time.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
We've shot at Eleanor Tinsley Park, which I think that's
my favorite because it's got that whole yeah, you know,
and then it's got the muscular Houston skyline behind it.
But then we've also shot on the east Side, which
has been cool spot where there's these murals and you
can shoot one way looking at them, or you can
just shoot the east side of downtown. We've done Herman Park,
(04:00):
which offers yeah, yeah, yeah, zillion great shots. I got
engaged there in between the obelisk and the pond at
the zoo. But we shot with the General sam h
Town's statue on a horse.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Is it General sam Htown? Would you call it?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I think that's right. I think that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah. So there's lots of lots of spots, So what are.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You here's my suggestion, and it's gonna be kind of
boring and and not as not as sexy as the
ones you've been. However, it hopefully brings together h town
and the sport of football. What about shooting your stand
ups at all the different football stadiums that we have
in the city, like shooting shooting from outside you know
(04:38):
del Mar, shooting from outside the e CU Tully Stadium,
you know, even some of the you know, smaller stadium
Butler Stadium, you know, going off the roads and Katie,
you know, yeah, I mean there are so many of
up in the northwest corner is it Berry Stadium?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
There's one out there that's got a double decker.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I mean I gave that a thought kind of even
for my own, but that that'd be kind of cool.
Is kind of those in Hey, we're gonna shoot from
Tully or or wherever and get some get some shots
from there.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So so, I can't remember if you've been in these meetings,
but we've seen some things over the last few months,
uniform wise in the Houston Texans in the years to come.
So prototypes, Brother, if there's one that it looks like
this is the one that might get chosen as an alternnit,
I'm just gonna say you know where they need to
(05:26):
shoot those uniforms with the backdrops. They need to go
bell Air Boulevard and the toll Way.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
M hm, shoot in towards.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Town with all that neon stuff at night. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Oh look, we might need to shoot a show stand
up there because that's a cool different h Town specific vibe.
I went to high school over there, and the street signs,
you know, it's Guessner and bel Air and on top
of them, and you know in script got the names
of the street signs. But that's the unique place in
(05:57):
the city I'm thinking about. But yeah, if you're listening
to this, shoot us a tweet and say, hey, you
should consider this one because location, Yeah what location. I
love the the idea of the high school of college stadiums.
I think we're gonna do one at night at some
point be on and uh yeah, I'm on game. And
we've ping ponged around to some other spots as well,
(06:19):
so uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We food spot location, any food spots maybe we could?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We should? Why not.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
It's gotta be a food truck park somewhere. Uh that's
that's a good one. So I'm I'm I'm down for
a food truck any any time of day, which obviously
that you can see from my figure.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Silberger's is the scene. We're gonna have Tilberger's here in
the stadium again this year.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
See a video James harden Uh stealing like four from Bunbee.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
The other day Drake Mike Tyson was in there, the champ.
I'd love to get a picture.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, if there's an athlete you'd want to have a
picture with, who would it be that you've never had
one with? Because I think we've had pictures with JJ
and Hop and you know a bunch of guys that
have been here.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
If you if you had an.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Athlete to take a picture with, just one on one,
cool picture, smile, put in a frame up on your
shell for whatever the case might be.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The refrigerator, Harry really one, Okay, I'd love dream I've
never got I have an autograph Bastall one of my
good friends got me an autograph dream basketball. I'd love
a picture with him. I'd like one with he was fun.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Who about you?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
What about you?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Who would you want?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I think i'd have to go in the in the
way back a little bit and not really Nolan.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, he would be cal Ripken me for too.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Cal Ripken Jr.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Is such a fascinating story since it's story time when
I when I was a coach in the nineties, I
coach with the guy named Storm Davis. Yes, and Storm,
but jovid picture in the Major leagues. Man Storm was
just an awesome, awesome dude. Well he was the head
varsity coach. He just become the head varsity coach. And
I was the jv baseball coach.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You want to ring with the eighty three oh's and
with the eighty nine.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
And he told the story of the earthquake when it hit. Yeah,
he was in there, his wife, His wife was in
the building, and he said, it's the most incredible story.
But he said that when he moved to the Orioles,
or went to the Orioles, he always struggled with the Indians.
It was Kory Schneider, that was Joe Joe Carter, and
(08:23):
it was a good Indians lineup. Sandy Alamar, I think
was a catcher in that point. That was a good
it was a good Indians lineup, and and Storm struggled
with him. So when Storm got to the Orioles, he said,
Cal pulled him aside and said, look, man, I know
you know, he struggled with the Indians, and he reached
his locker and he pulled her a notebook and he
went through every single hitter on the Indians with Storm,
(08:45):
every single one. And it got to a point where
Cal called the game from short for Storm not only
against the Indians, but also for the rest, you know,
the rest of the time that he was the he did.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That, he was that that kind of rankled some guys.
And I don't I don't want this. It's like, you
got they get overruled. Yeah, that was an interesting throwing
a four hitter before hit complete game the first time.
He's like, Okay, I'll go with this, he said, and
he cows. And Cal wrote about in his book. He
wrote about that specifically. So I'm not kind of a
(09:21):
turn of telling that.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
But i remember Storm telling me that story and I
was like that, dude, yeah, Cal ripken, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, you know, Davis, I think was step brothers with Yes, Yes,
there were there was a Yeah, there was a there
was some relation.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
They were both I think they were both from Storm
was from Jacksonville, so there was a Jacksonville connection.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I think for me, you know a Keem. A Keem
would be one.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
I remember interviewing him with Deep for one of our
games when we were doing the Jealous the pregame and
his kids at the time were going to the same
school where my wife work. My wife worked and my
daughter graduated from village school and and so I we
kind of connected and we talked for a while about that.
It was just it was just really it was really cool,
(10:07):
and I wish I would have had I wish I
would have had a picture. Mine would probably be Premier
League star Kevin de Bruyne from my favorite team, my
team Man City. He's I think he's Belgian. I think
he's the best soccer player in the world. You can
have mess you have all of them. Kevin de Bruyne is,
That's my guy. So I would have liked to have
(10:28):
done that when they were here, but I couldn't get
down on the field for it. So he would definitely
be one for sure that I would do, which is
weird for me to say, you know, soccer, but I
think Tom Brady and I say this because he was
so good it was so frustrating to go against him.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I always liked Brady.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I always I always. I liked the story of Brady.
I just liked the fact that he was slower. It
wasn't this great. You know, he was a six round pick.
He's picked one ninety nine. He's got a fight through this.
I just I love about Brady. I I could say,
I could say it how so, yeah, Tom Brady would
be that one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
We're going to see a lot of him, uh here
in August, and we'll hear a lot of him on
the radio here with us. I was, we're talking with
him the other day and he said when he played
against Brady when he was with the Texans at six
or seven.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Here, I think they won on the road, went.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
On the road to Fox for he said Brady was
looking would come to the line of scrimmage and look
at the defense, and he said it was like he
was looking through us, my kid. He knew exactly what
he was going to do, how he's going to do it,
and the success that he was going to have. It
was an interesting way the way uh wait, and he
phrase it so yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
One of the things that Bill O'Brien had told us
for years.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I actually told the story the other day to a
couple of my good friends and we were talking about
this and we were talking about Brady, and I said,
you know, Billy used to used to tell us, you know,
I we just asked him. Look, he coached Brady like
what made him great? He was like his recall, He said.
His recall is ability to look at something on film
and go, hey, that's something that this team did against
(12:06):
me ten years ago, and he would be absolutely dead
on And at first Bill was kind of like.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Okay, man, this guy's full of it. He didn't remember that,
and Bill will go pick up the film, like, okay,
what game do you say? Was from Week four?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
See, you know against whatever team Baltimore Ravens and their
DC was this guy and they ran this against this
particular play, and Bill like, I don't you go check
it out? He said, Brady was on it, like absolutely
dead on it. He says recall was as as good
as anybody he'd been around.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And he went to Brown with me. We do some
smart people, he said.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
When it came to football, he said, Brady, his recall
was incredible, absolutely incredible. And I'm convinced after hearing that,
like the great ones, it's not so much the drive
determination like it's the recall it's what they can remember
about how teams played them. You know what Jordan could
remember about how teams fenced him early in his career.
(13:02):
You know what different coaches did against them. Their recall
is what makes them makes them great, absolutely great.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Now, the recall is what made Brady great in college.
What made one of the things that made CJ. Stroud
so great and what made him so attractive as the
second overall pick for the Texans was his accuracy, his
precision like way of getting the ball to his receivers
who were excellent, but still he got it there. And
(13:29):
he's one of the most accurate passers in NCAA history.
So combine that accuracy with the offense in which he's
going to now play under Bobby Slok, which is kind
of a derivative of what we've seen from Kubiak and
Shanahan both Shanhan's really, why is that going.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
To be such a nice marriage?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
You think, Well, for so many reasons. I think one
of the biggest reasons.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
And it's interesting because I was actually watching Universe Houston
from last year, studying a prospect that they have this year,
and within the first in the first quarter, Tank runs
a punt back for a touchdown gets called back. Yeah,
he catches a punt, goes for like thirty five or
forty yards a little bit later that sets up the
(14:17):
first score.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
A field goal.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Then he catches a bomb in a third quarter and
puts him down inside the five, which let their first touchdown.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
And it's like WHOA.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
But the reason I bring up Tank is and he's
probably the best representative of this. When you're that accurate,
you give your players an opportunity A to make catches
they maybe normally wouldn't make, or B to catch and
run without breaking stride. And I think about a guy
like Tank, if he's able to catch and run without
(14:46):
breaking stride, think about the pressure a defensive back is
under when that happens.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
And that can go for everybody.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
But he also can make throws into spots where receivers
I won't get receivers killed. And I bring I brought
this example before they played Michigan. This is twenty twenty one.
Is in the snow up at ann Arbor and he
had a he had a crossing route deep crossing route
with JSN, Jackson Smith and Jigba and he rifles one
(15:14):
in there to him and Smith and Jigba has to
kind of slide and reach back and make the catch.
And I remember thinking, Okay, bad throw. That's kind of
weird because I haven't seen CJ.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Mack.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And then I went back and watched it.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
I realized, oh, there's a safety driving down on that
crossing route and he had he led him js Sam
was gonna get lit up. So either it's an incompletion
concussion all the above, and instead he threw it purposely
behind him and gave him an opportunity to make a
catch for a first down without getting jays And killed.
(15:46):
So you make those throws, and there's gonna be a
lot of crossers, you know, throws, you know, guys moving
into open windows. And if he's able with that ball
placement to keep them from taking big hits, they can
make something happen after the catch, or if he sees things,
he can put a ball right in the right spot
where a guy can catch and run. And that is
(16:06):
hugely important because I do think the Texans have some
good catch and run guys in their receiving core, and
so you give them an opportunity to do that. But
also when you're accurate outside the numbers, you take advantage
of size, height, size mismatches. Well, Nico Collins is that
Nico Collins can be that mismatch guy outside the numbers.
(16:28):
And if CJ's putting a ball in a spot where
only Nico can go get it and make plays, well,
those are big plays that you're gonna come up with.
Doesn't give the defensive back an opportunity to even make
a play on it because the ball is in the
perfect spot. So there's so many different things that ball
placement accuracy help an offense. And this offense, as we
(16:49):
talked about, is based on precision and being in the
right spot at the right time. And then once you
are on the right spot at the right time, then
you have an opportunity once you get to on your
hands to do something with it. Well, if you have
to reach down low and stop and catch a pass
and you can't do anything afterwards, you're just giving up
some hidden yards. Well, I think CJ can pick up
(17:09):
some of those hidden yards by putting the ball on
the right spot for his pass catchers. That goes for
tight ends, running backs, all those guys, even I mean
running backs.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
It sounds simple.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
You have the little angle route and you hit that
running back with that angle route. If you make them stop, well,
that gives the defense one half step or a extra
step to get to them quickly.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
They don't get much after the catch, but you hit
that running back and stride.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Think about hitting Devin Singletary and Damian Pierce instride on
a linebacker who's kind of frozen trying to cover his
own man, You're gonna pick up that much more yardage
than you would if you throw it behind him. He's
got to stop and catch it. Regather. Now he's running.
Now he's faced up on the lineback. There's so much
that goes into accuracy and being accurate with the football
that can really help this office. Look, it helps every offense,
(17:56):
but I think this one because of the way that
it has been constructed over the years. Being precise in everything,
precise in how your motion, where a guy's supposed to be,
where you line up, all those kind of things. I
think Bobby Slow and that offensive staff going to hammer
that home for them to be that precise in having
CJ quarterback that is that precise that the football is
going to help out majorly.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
All Right, we got to wrap this up. But when
camp begins on Wednesday. Which matchup are you looking forward
to most seeing? Could be a position group versus a
position group, could be a defensive lineman versus an offensive
lineman receiver.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Quot Who are you looking forward to seeing most?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Now?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well, there are two that stand out to me, and
one is Derek stingingly against Nico Collins one on one.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
That's fully healthy. I think that's going to be a
great battle.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
The other one and I don't know how often this
will happen, maybe not early in camp, but as we
go through we'll see. But I want to see Will
Larrson junior rush against Titus and Laramie. I mean, I
think that's the one where you can see. And my
my favorite moment at training camp last year was Laramie
Tunsil was going one on ones and Mario Addison, who
(19:10):
had some pass rush moves. Man, he threw a couple
of pass rush moves and he beat Laramie.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
The next rep, Laramie went against somebody else and just
I mean, I can't even remember who it was, but
he just tossed him his side and he's got done.
As he's tossing me the side, he looks over at Addison,
He's like pointing at him like I want him. I
want him again. I want to see him, come on,
let's go. And I thought it was pretty interesting, so
I know Laramy's got that competitive streak even though.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
He's the most chill guy.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I want to see Will Anderson against against Titus and
and Laramie because that's gonna make Will better. That is
gonna make Will better. And I think that Will's attack
and the way that he attacks the pass Rus's gonna
end up making those tackles better too.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I can't wait. It's gonna be fun. Training camp is here.
I'm Drew, that's John. We are Texans in the lab.
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