July 24, 2025 • 26 mins
The Colts quarterback competition between Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones is underway, and JJ Stankevitz offers his thoughts and observations from the start of training camp in Westfield. JJ is then joined by third-year cornerback JuJu Brents for a conversation about his career, the nuances of playing cornerback and why giving back to Indianapolis is so important to him. JJ then closes the pod with The Colts Show Mailbag featuring a question on tights ends not named Tyler Warren.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ Sankovitten. Welcome in to another
episode of The Colt Show in Indianapolis Colts Podcast. We
are here at Grand Park. We're taping this on Wednesday,
right after the Colts ended their first training camp practice
at twenty twenty five. Coming up later on the show,
I had a chance to sit down with cornerback Juju Brentz,
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one of my favorite dudes to talk to on this
entire team. He was awesome, really just real guy, great interview,
great insight into some of the processes he has playing
cornerback in the NFL. We're gonna have the Colts Show
Mailbag coming up after that as well on the episode.
You can submit your questions in the YouTube comments on
this episode at Colts dot com slash Mailbag, or you
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can send them to me on social media. All right,
but real quick, let's run down kind of what happened
in practice today. If you want to see my chicken
scratch notebook. I don't know if I'm blowing the white
balance here, but it is. We are full. It was
really good to have football back and notes to take
on a practice. And obviously we're going to start the
quarterback competition, right, Like, you can't not start there when
it comes to this team. Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson
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split first team reps in both seven on seven and
eleven on eleven today. I don't know, you know, there
was some drops, there was, you know, a couple of
good plays by the defense, a couple completions in there,
some in rhythm stuff that was good to see from
both quarterbacks. Daniel Jones probably had the most impressive throw
of the day. He hit Anthony Gould down the left
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sideline with a really nice deep ball, kind of dropped
it in the bucket, you know. And I think the
main thing that we learned today was just both those
guys the mentality we had a chance to hear from
Richardson and Jones, and both those guys their mentality is just, hey,
this is a process. We're going to have to really
just focus on kind of stacking days and not getting
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too high or too low based on one practice. And
you know, the word that you keep hearing about this
is consistency. Who's going to be the most consistent quarterback?
Anthony Richardson talked about this offseason he really focused on
the intermediate and the short throws. You know, he was like,
I think everyone knows I can throw the deep ball,
which we all do. Those two areas of his game
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are where he needs to make a lot of improvement.
That's gonna where that's gonna be where his completion percentage
is gonna go up, is in completing more of those
short and intermediate throws that keeps the offense on schedule
and ahead of the sticks. And then for Daniel Jones,
it is about consistency. It's about consistency and everything that
he does from you know, the moment he wakes up
to the moment he goes to bed, and we'll see
how it plays out. I mean, I think both these
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guys are on even footing. We did get a little
more clarity today. So yesterday Chris Ballard told us that
Anthony Richardson they limit his volume of throws a little
bit as he's coming back from that shoulder injury. What
that's gonna look like, Shane Steiken told us, is that
you're gonna see Richardson maybe not make all the throws
during individual drills. So that's like your routes on air
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early in practice where there's no defense out there because
they want Richardson to get all the team drills, so
that's seven on seven and eleven on eleven. They want
him to get all of those reps to be equal
with Daniel Jones as we move forward here in this competition.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's early, it's day one.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The other storyline I came out of today was like, man,
this secondary is good. This is a good secondary. Kenny
Moore the second had an interception today. Tarvarius Ward had
two breakups downfield, one on a deep ball to Alec
Pierce that I guess it wasn't really a breakup, but
I would count it as a forest in completion. And
then Justin Wally, the rookie third round pick out of Minnesota,
he was with the first team defense today. I don't
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think that was a huge surprise based on you know,
Jalen Jones missed all of OTA's he was not participating
in that Juju Brent's still kind of working his way
back in. And then if you talk to anyone, any coach,
any front office member, like the first name out of
their mouth during the offseason was like, have you seen
this Justin Wallerk. This guy can compete, he can run,
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he's smart. So not a surprise that Wally got that
first crack. Now, I think that's he's still a wide
open competition between Wally Jones and Juju Brentz. But right now,
I think that was a little encouraging to see the
rookie get a go at it here on day one
and you know, go out there and make a couple
of plays out there. So that's going to kind of
feed into our next conversation here, which is going to
be with cornerback Juju Brentz, a guy who has been
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through a lot in his two year career so far,
a lot of bad luck injuries Like this guy got
like kicked in the face and missed some time at
one point last year, he plays that entire Week one
game against the Texans. During the game, I think it
was Nico Collins fell on him awkwardly. He finishes the game,
he goes in for it, you know, to get it
checked out, not thinking it's anything major, and all of
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a sudden, bam, you're on ir. He misses most of
last season because of that. But a guy who I think,
you know, my conversation with him, I learned he's really
kind of grown through that adversity, through those tough times
in those tough situations, and a guy I am absolutely
not counting out to this cornerback competition to start next
to Travarius Ward and Kenny Moore, the second in that
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dar defensive backfield so again.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And the guy I just I love talking to. He's
an indie guy.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He's done some really cool stuff in the community, giving
back to his community, his.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Church, really neat stuff. So here we go.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Here's Colts Cornerback Juju Brents. It is my pleasure to
be joined here on the Colt Show here at training
camp by cornerback Juju Brents. Juju Year three man, what
are you looking forward to in this training camp?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to just getting back out there
and could be you know, last year just going to
some child to lesson and I'll be able to play,
which was tough. So I made it through most of
camp last year. But now like this year's gonna put
a good camp underneath my building and then you know,
get to.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
The season that that competition is something that you know,
Chris Ballard, a lot of folks in this organization have
talked about needing to get that cornerback room looks awfully competitive.
Oh yeah, you know, mooney, Kenny kind of is your
vets there? But you know then you Jalen, justin, Sam Wollmack,
these guys in there like that. That seems like a
real good competitive environment to have there.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
No, definitely, I think you got to have competition, right,
gonna make all of us better. It's a healthy competition, man,
and uh, you know when to smoke clear, you know,
but just want to make sure that we got the best.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Guys out there.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So it's gonna be good for all of us, like
you said, all the guys coming back and the new
additions as well, it's gonna just make us all better.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I think sometimes like people hear competition and they think
like when you're not out there, you're gonna root against
like the guys who you're competing with. But like it
seems like within the football team it is that that
healthy competition where hey, if you know, Jalen goes out
there and breaks up a pass, So I want to
go out there and I want to do the same.
I want to, you know, show I can reach his level.
Like how does that play out between you guys there?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Fact, absolutely, especially at corner, you know, it's it's a
little bit different because it's the awesomate like just competitive
type of position. You know, you gotta be dowt in
every single play. Yeah, definitely when you see one of
your guys make a player, like, it gives you like
a different feeling because we know, like cornerback is tough.
So like you see somebody make up players like, Okay,
like I gotta go out there. I'm gonna make a
play now. But like it's a great thing for us.
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Like I think we all just want to see each
other win. At the end of the day, he win,
I win, Like the team win. So that's the tough
it's out of we have cornerback round.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
How do you approach as a cornerback those one on
one draws, because like those are you know, some receivers
are going to win those, you guys are gonna win those, Like,
how do you approach maybe the totality of those one
on one ones.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, it's just it's a it's a mental game for sure,
as much as its physical. But yeah, it's a it's
a type of I would say, just real where you
got to go into You just got to be real intentional, right,
you got to pay attention to every little thing, Like
you can't be like a half second late because that's
a loss playing cornerback position. So being really intentional, the
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way that you line up, the way that you're paying
attention to your keys, noticing if you got his right
foot up is inside foot, outside foot, whereas you got
your bottom of the numbers, see two yards you know
from the bottom of the numbers. Now I got just
leveling down like what type of routes that he may run.
So it's just like those little things like the mind
process you got to go through every single rep So
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just being real intentional, I.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Was gonna ask you, like what you're looking for, but
you just kind.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Of gave me the rundown of like that's just a
simple right list or that's simple.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That very simple to be a stupid person.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I mean like, but like when when Okay, So for example,
when you're looking at how are receivers lining up their feet,
what does that tell you?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Right, So if I'm seeing the receiver I'm playing outside corner,
he come up to the line of scrimmage and he
has his outside foot up. Now it's not one hundred
percent guarantee, but I'm anticipating I'm getting a hard jab
coming off this outside foot to go back inside immediately
he got his outside foot, I'm not anticipating him to
now switch his feet and then give me an outside release.
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So if he got his outside foot up, I'm being
heavy inside leverage. I'm gonna take that away because I
know that's what he want to get to.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
If it's inside foot up now, I ain't gonna give
you all my keys like right, but yeah, inside.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Foot up now it's a little bit different process.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right, I'm gonna take my leverage and then play the
play the game from their own. But yeah, it's just
just those little things you got to pick up on
you're not locked in, then that's a loss.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I remember.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I think it was Jordan Nelson once talked about this
where he was like, he talked about that and if
he was going to give an outside release, he would
do what you said, you know, he would kind of
switch his footwork or he would be able to get
an outside release even when he get his outside foot forward.
When you've faced a you know DeAndre Hopkins, you know
Davonte Adams, some of these VET receivers who have been there,
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done that in the league. What if you maybe learned
about those those nuances of playing cornerback against those guys
from those matchups.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Right when you go again, certain guys like that, you
understand that, like you just said with Jordan Nelson, they
can do that. So a lot of guys they may okay,
understand that. Okay, I maybe getting indication that maybe going inside,
but I may hop off the line like you may
see at Devonte Adams where it's more like a squares.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Release and he can go either way. So two ways.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So now I know that I got a chance to
be able to shoot my hands. I got to be
aggressive because if he gets to where he wanted to
get to, now it's a two way going. That's tough
you know, can be able to compete against. So I
mean it's just film study. You're going to get guys
like that. Just understand how they like to you know,
attack dbs. I mean film study against the officerve coordinator
as well, what they like when they see these guys.
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And he got a one on one match up, what
type of routes W soul.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
They give him? So just a film study.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So what do you look at in the off season
when you have you know, hours of ti time. Maybe
it's outside of the workouts that you're doing, uh to
to prepare for those extremely small details that can be
the difference between winning a rap and losing a rap.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah. I like to watch schemes. Definitely.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Know we got our schedule now, so I just look
at maybe where this offensive coordinator came from. Maybe it
may be a new team now, so I like to
look at the scheme. Maybe I may just watch like uh,
not long, just like a quarter of what so like
the first quarter that's we know guys are throwing out
there like most explosive players that they want to get
to in order to get the defense back on their heels.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So I may watch like a quarter just like the
skiing officer coordinators.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
And then depending on I know, like okay, this week
such and such as gonna be here and I may
know my match up what it may look like. I
like to just watch guys come off the line, just
little things like that. There's different little nu once that
I could pick up on. So then when I get
to the game, it's like, Okay, seen this before. So
I just like to watch little little things as far
as schemes, and then I like to watch study.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Guys as well a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Do you have a notebook that you keep I got
a yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah, I mean it's pretty heavy. It's pretty it's pretty heavy.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, But I mean sometimes I liked, Okay, I know
some guys that say they like the Curators on. I
get rid of mine first after the year, Like I
watched it, It's like, Okay, now I want to be
intentional and let's write it down again for this next
upcoming year.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So I remember this was something gust told me when
he was in Tampa with Derek Brooks, right like Hall
Fame linebacker. He was doing like a week one install
on like the first day of the off season program,
and Derek Brooks is in there taking these like very
detailed notes and he was like, why are you doing that?
And He's like, well, because even though i'm your ten
or whatever, there's always something new to learn. And I
think that kind of goes to if you continually write
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things down, that just probably helps you drill it into
your brain.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Right, absolutely, absolutely, I mean everybody learned different, but I'm
one of those guys as well, Like I like to
write it down. Then I feel like I attained it
a little bit better. Yeah, like I could carry over
my notes the next year. But I mean essentially, like
I feel like I'm doing myself with disservice. I like
to run down it may help or work for some.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Guys with me, I like to you know, all right,
I saw you did a lot of pilates this offseason,
but so SOJJ Speed told me this last year with pilates,
he's like to put your body in uncomfortable positions. So
when you know, because hitting someone and making a tackle
on the field, your body is in an awkward position.
And being in pilates, he told me, like helps get
my body used to that. What was your motivation for
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getting into pilates?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh man, So yeah, I am a little pilates mama.
Now I just did it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I wish you could see some of the videos you
had to be doing. But uh, I think my thought
press on it was like what you said with EJ.
I just learned for some of the vets and know
some guys. I was like, yeah, like it's a great
thing to be able to work on those little muscles
that you can't really I guess necessarily attack like in
the weight room. It's a different type of movement you know,
playing cornerback, you put you get put in a lot
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of unpredictable type of situations, like the way your body's moving,
you torquing your hips, constantly flipping and flipping. So those
little muscles that you need to find to them. I
feel like pilates is a great way to be able
to do it. So it's a lot of things where
you working on your your core, getting you in some
I don't know what you call it a back spring
where you've been over it. It's crazy, okay, but that
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feels like you could you could use that to break
up a pass. Working on your shoulders opening all the
way up. So I mean that was just my thought process,
and I mean it has I feel like open me
up a little bit more in different ways to where
my body feels a little bit more fluid, even though
I felt like I was a little bit just always
just trying to find different ways I can tine to
keep getting better.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
The the injuries and the things you've gone through in
your career, it's been you know, a hamstring, it's been
what the you had, the broken hand you've had. I
remember you had a quote last year where you said,
like if I'd played tennis. You know, I would have
been like, why is this happening to me? But you
chose to play football, right, I guess like as you
now approached this season and the opportunity you have, how
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do you view maybe what you've gone through over the
last two years now going into year three?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, I really do see the like the blessing this
guy's And I know when I was probably like a
little bit younger, ice to like question myself and wonder, like,
you know, like I just happened to my mom was
like she kind of told me that, She's like, you
play football. I want to understand that you play football.
It's just like we talked about this past year. It's like, Okay,
you broken those you went in and made at tackle,
you gotta kicked your face, you broke your those. Yeah,
that's not happening playing certain sports. You go out for
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a ball last year and two guys fall on your
leg and hurt your knee, Like it's some of those
things just go be unpredictable. So it's just like, this
is what you signed up for, and yeah it may
be a little bad, look hopefully, it's just you know,
I put myself in right positions now to where I
could just be smooth selling and like the little things
as far as like the hand strings and stuff like that,
those are stuff that you can take care of on
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your own and try to limit. But like the little
things like where you may end up hurting knee, stuff
like that. Man, just sometimes things happen. So I think
for me, I've been to those deep waters now, I've
seen what that adversity looks like, and I know how
to deal with it. So that's like the blessing disguise
with me and anything i'd come up to it now
or any type of trigeipulations, It's not going to stir
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me the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I've been there to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Can you almost view that? You know, corners have to
have that next play mentality right, like you've had to
overcome a lot to just get back to this point.
Can that maybe help like bolster that next play mentality
of like you know, hey, maybe I didn't win this rep,
but look think about what I've come, you know, been
through and got through to get back to this point.
Like does that help you at all?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Heah, yeah, it's definitely. Just it's lit like a like
a fire.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Me and I honestly had I just remember being in
a position last year where I played that whole game
and not knowing that I had touring my misking the
MCL and I was like, Okay, I'll be fine this week.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Throw a braceshole and go knock it out. We'd be cool.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's like, no, you got your surgery. And I remember
being in that position just like all right, this is
the reality, Like let's get through it. And then next
year like camp, Like that's what I was like. I'm like,
I'm gonna get through this and then be at camp
and look where we're at.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah, I'm good. We had camp.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So it is like it's just little different fire. I mean,
I'm just grateful, honestly to be in a position now
where I can get back out there.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
What do you What do you like about lou Anarumo
in the way he plays defense?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah? Aggressive, aggressive.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's one of those mentalities like okay, like you gotta
beat us, we go come to win, so you gotta
beat us and we go put it on the line.
So he also does just throw in a lot of
different looks where I feel like it's gonna be tough
for people to be able to fully decipher, like what
are we actually in?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
What'll we playing? And yeah, like when it comes down
to the line where we need to be aggressive, need
to make a play like he gon put this in
those positions.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So personality wise, uh, you know the first park never
seen he's very blunt. Yeah, do you like that as
a player? Someoney who's just a blunt communicator of Hey,
this is how this is what I saw you do
on this play.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
But this is how it's gotta be facts. That's how
I grew up. That's what I gravitate to it. Yeah,
I mean, like warn't to dhigh school. That's how our
coaches was. I started off by I was like a
lot of people. I don't know if you know Phil
Parker not, but he one of those like the divisquinerator there,
like extremely blunt. So that's what I'm used to. I mean,
like it's gonna hold us all accountable to a certain
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like extent, like you're doing your job where you're not
doing your job. If you're not doing your job, I'm
gonna tell you what you need to do and then
it's up to you to be able to fix it.
You don't fix it, then now that's a problem. So
I mean, it's just it's an understanding. And I say, like,
we all kind of gravitors, gravitated tours, and it's gonna
make us better.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You're one of the people, the few people on this
team who probably understands what Indy's.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Like as a sports city.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Before the Pacers made their run this year, well, I
talked to a number of your teammates back in June
who all told me, like, the Pacers going on that
run motivated them because they they saw how like lit
things gotten Indy when they made the finals, and you know,
they they're like, we want to have that in the fall.
On Sunday, it's like, how do you how did you
digest that Pacers run? As someone who's watched Bob Sanders
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here and you know, watch Super Bowls here, and it's
seemed great these great Pacers teams previously, but are like,
now you're on the Colts and now you're like, man,
we want to carry that that momentum into our season, Like,
how did you digest that?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
No, definitely the same way. I feel like that's what
our fans are used to. We used to actually, we
used to having, Like you said to Bob Sanders, the
Payton Manny's coming in where it's like it's suspected for
us to win. Oh man, we haven't been on that
trajectory lately. I mean we're getting closer, you know, we
right on the cuss of the playoffs, but it's like
our it's like their use to us winning. So like
for me growing up as a feni's like, no, like
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the coach, I'm thinking every year, like we got a
chance to go to the Super Bowl, Pacers. I know,
it was kind of like a little drought, but I
know like in the nineties we was pretty good. But
then this past year, like it definitely was like, okay,
like now it's time for us to show up to
the patriers, showing up the city. I feel like we
just gained him on m as far as in the
sports and the fever, and it's all just great vibes
right now. And I feel like we'll be doing the
city of the service if we don't give our all
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this year as well. So it definitely lit a fire
me too, like, okay, like we got to show up.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You've been really intentional about being out in the community
over the last couple of years as well. I know
you just had an event over the weekend. What was
it and what do you hope to get.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Out of that.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, so it was a partnership with me and my church,
the Jujuvention Folks Foundation, which is my mom at the
New Beginning's New b Indie and this is the third
end of your year.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
We've done it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And I remember when I got drafted, my mom was like, okay, like, yeah,
you a football player, but you more than that as well.
So any ways that you can be able to get
back to the city or just back to the community
in general, like, it's find ways for you bit to
do it, and it was I did. My mom kind
of came up with for me to just come in
conjunction with my church, which I've been a part of
the church as.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I was a child.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
So we had the community to day this past Saturday
where he was able to bless over a thousand families
with giving them backpacks for the kids supplies. Over one
hundred plus kids got free physicals getting ready for the
school year.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
In sports. That's awesome. We have people out there get
them haircuts.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
A lot of different smaller businesses was out there, you know,
just presenting their businesses to people and different vendors was
there and I don't know how many Dango food trucks.
He got some turkey turkey lege I had down asked
him about that. I think he had one of those,
like the State Fair turkey Legs had one of those.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
The tackles everything. It was just a great, great.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Time for people to come out to build a fellowship,
have a great vibe, get ready for the school, and
it definitely h It makes me feel good just to
be able to put my own kids place, because like
I remember being that kid and just seeing somebody was like, man,
he's playing the NFL or regardless of what the case
may be, but just being like I want to be
like that guy one day. So me being able to
show people like, no, like you can actually do it,
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like I grew up in this same neighborhood just like you,
and just be able to get back to those keys
now as a blessing, I.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Was gonna say, like, how motivating is that to think
about yourself as a kid and being like, man, how
coolud it have been if when I was five, six,
seven eight, we had an Indianapolis Colts cornerback come come
to our church and come meet with us and come
have a relationship with like that. That's got to be
a pretty neat feeling, No, it is.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It is definitely dope and uh like feelings like that
I don't take for granted. Oh so, anyway, I'm gonna
be able to continue to keep doing that. I'm gonna
keep doing it. I'm just looking forward to years to
come with it. But it definitely is a good feeling
for sure, being like that kid one day and now
being a position from Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Juju brants Cult's cornerback. Good luck in training, cam Man,
appreciate you, Thanke, Thanks for coming on, sir. All right,
back here on the Cult Show and it's time for
the Colt Show mail Bag. Remember, submit your questions on
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I check all that stuff, So send your questions my way.
I'll always answer one on the podcast and then get
to other questions on colts dot com. So check that
out on Thursday for the Colt Show Mailbag on Colts
dot com as well. All right, this one comes to
us from the YouTube comments of last week's episode, the
training camp preview I did with Learra Overton, and it's
a good one from mister Deed's one to one seven,
(21:20):
He writes, other than Tyler Warren, what do you guys
want to see from the tight end group in training
camp and into the preseason with guys like Will Mallory. Okay,
so this was good because we've talked so much about
Tyler Warren. I feel like every week I get a
question about how the Colts are gonna use Tyler Warren
in this offense. Because god was the first round pick.
He's gonna be a big part of what the Colts
are gonna do, but he's not gonna be the only
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part of this tight end group. I thought it was
notable today you saw Tyler Warren rotate in with the
first team offense with mo Alei Cox and Drew Ogletree,
the two guys who played the They were right up
there in snap percentage last year with Kylon Grantson. So
last year Molei Cox played forty three percent of the
Colts offensive snaps, Drew Ogletree played forty percent, Grantson was
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at thirty nine percent. Will Mallory was down there at
nine percent, So you know, there's still gonna be opportunities.
Even if Tyler Warren is playing a high volume of snaps.
The Colts are going to need mo Aley, Cox, Ogletree, Mallory,
Jilannie Woods. You know, maybe you even get down into it.
You know, Albert Okawebunham Junior or Sean McKee and some
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of these guys are competing for roster spots. Jeelanie Woods
as well as back and he's healthy. So what I
wanted to do though, is just sort of look at
what other teams who have drafted tight ends high have
had to do with their maybe second and third tight ends.
So I think that the example our minds all go
to here is Brock Bauers, who is the thirteenth overall
pick of the Raiders last year set all sorts of
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rookie records for tight ends. He played eighty five percent
of Las Vegas offensive snaps. That is a really high volume.
He almost played a thousand snaps last year as a rookie,
but early on he was playing abouts. He was under
seventy percent for Las Vegas first three games. The next
two games he was in the high seventies. In terms
of snap percentage. And then after that it was like
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the Raiders realized, Holy Holy Kyle, this guy's amazing. We
got to get him on the field as much as possible.
He never had a game below eighty three percent of
the snap share after that. So I was like, all right,
I don't know if brock Powers is maybe the right
example here. Look if Tyler Warren hits and he's playing
that level of the Colts offensive snaps, that's a really
good thing. I wanted to go back then and look
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at what Kyle Pitts did. He was the fourth overall
pick in twenty twenty one of the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
He had a good year.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I think he had one thousand yards that year, but
that year he played seventy three point six percent of
Atlanta's snaps at tight end. The Falcons still had to
play other tight ends. It wasn't like this was just
Kyle Pitts. So Hayden Hurst that year played four hundred
and ten snaps, and Lee Smith, who was more of
a blocking tight end, played three hundred and eleven snaps.
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So you're still looking at if I had to just
ballpark it, Guys like Moley Cox drew Ogletree, Will Mallory Woods,
whoever it might be. Those guys are still going to
need to cover anywhere from probably fifteen to twenty five,
maybe even thirty snaps a game, depending on what personnel
packages the colts are in. I like this collection with
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Warren maybe kind of setting where everyone can be a
little bit more targeted in how they're used, because last
year it was like, you know, you had Kylon Grantson
who was sort of only relied on as a pass catcher,
and Mohali Cox, who was sort of only relied on
as a run blocker. Ogletree was a little more in
the run blocking realm there as well. If you put
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Warren up here at the top and he's getting maybe
seventy to seventy five percent of the snaps if he
earns it, and then you've got Molei Cox. Hey, we're
in twelve personnel. We want to run the ball. Get
Mo on the field, Drew Ogletree, We're in twelve personnel.
We want to run the ball. Get Drew on the field.
You know, hey, we might want to throw it out
of this package and you know, throw a team off
by having twelve personnel. But we got Will Mallory maybe
lined up in the slot. There's a little bit more
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flexibility the Colts can have. So I'm definitely to this
question here in the YouTube comments. I'm definitely keeping an
eye on the rest of these tight ends in addition
to Tyler Warren to figure out maybe what that pecking
order is, how the Colts are gonna use these guys
and these are these guys are all gonna play important
snaps for the Colts, even if maybe they aren't getting
the highest share of snaps within this offense. These guys are,
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They're gonna play critical snaps, the snaps they're gonna need
to make big plays in big moments like we've seen
in years past. It is might be so that Tyler
Warren sort of pushes down the depth chart a little
bit to where you can use these guys in situations
that are really tailored to their skill set. So really
good question there from mister Deed's one one seven. Get
your questions in for next week's episode that's gonna come
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out on Thursday. As always, we are loaded up here
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got the Two Minute Drill podcast that my colleague Amanda
Foster is gonna host. That's gonna come out on Fridays.
And then it's like, right around the corner is gonna
be the Colts play in the Baltimore Ravens. Two weeks
from today, the Colts open the preseason against the Baltimore Ravens.
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So long
Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ Sankovitten. Welcome in to another
episode of The Colt Show in Indianapolis Colts Podcast. We
are here at Grand Park. We're taping this on Wednesday,
right after the Colts ended their first training camp practice
at twenty twenty five. Coming up later on the show,
I had a chance to sit down with cornerback Juju Brentz,
(00:25):
one of my favorite dudes to talk to on this
entire team. He was awesome, really just real guy, great interview,
great insight into some of the processes he has playing
cornerback in the NFL. We're gonna have the Colts Show
Mailbag coming up after that as well on the episode.
You can submit your questions in the YouTube comments on
this episode at Colts dot com slash Mailbag, or you
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can send them to me on social media. All right,
but real quick, let's run down kind of what happened
in practice today. If you want to see my chicken
scratch notebook. I don't know if I'm blowing the white
balance here, but it is. We are full. It was
really good to have football back and notes to take
on a practice. And obviously we're going to start the
quarterback competition, right, Like, you can't not start there when
it comes to this team. Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson
(01:08):
split first team reps in both seven on seven and
eleven on eleven today. I don't know, you know, there
was some drops, there was, you know, a couple of
good plays by the defense, a couple completions in there,
some in rhythm stuff that was good to see from
both quarterbacks. Daniel Jones probably had the most impressive throw
of the day. He hit Anthony Gould down the left
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sideline with a really nice deep ball, kind of dropped
it in the bucket, you know. And I think the
main thing that we learned today was just both those
guys the mentality we had a chance to hear from
Richardson and Jones, and both those guys their mentality is just, hey,
this is a process. We're going to have to really
just focus on kind of stacking days and not getting
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too high or too low based on one practice. And
you know, the word that you keep hearing about this
is consistency. Who's going to be the most consistent quarterback?
Anthony Richardson talked about this offseason he really focused on
the intermediate and the short throws. You know, he was like,
I think everyone knows I can throw the deep ball,
which we all do. Those two areas of his game
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are where he needs to make a lot of improvement.
That's gonna where that's gonna be where his completion percentage
is gonna go up, is in completing more of those
short and intermediate throws that keeps the offense on schedule
and ahead of the sticks. And then for Daniel Jones,
it is about consistency. It's about consistency and everything that
he does from you know, the moment he wakes up
to the moment he goes to bed, and we'll see
how it plays out. I mean, I think both these
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guys are on even footing. We did get a little
more clarity today. So yesterday Chris Ballard told us that
Anthony Richardson they limit his volume of throws a little
bit as he's coming back from that shoulder injury. What
that's gonna look like, Shane Steiken told us, is that
you're gonna see Richardson maybe not make all the throws
during individual drills. So that's like your routes on air
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early in practice where there's no defense out there because
they want Richardson to get all the team drills, so
that's seven on seven and eleven on eleven. They want
him to get all of those reps to be equal
with Daniel Jones as we move forward here in this competition.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's early, it's day one.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
The other storyline I came out of today was like, man,
this secondary is good. This is a good secondary. Kenny
Moore the second had an interception today. Tarvarius Ward had
two breakups downfield, one on a deep ball to Alec
Pierce that I guess it wasn't really a breakup, but
I would count it as a forest in completion. And
then Justin Wally, the rookie third round pick out of Minnesota,
he was with the first team defense today. I don't
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think that was a huge surprise based on you know,
Jalen Jones missed all of OTA's he was not participating
in that Juju Brent's still kind of working his way
back in. And then if you talk to anyone, any coach,
any front office member, like the first name out of
their mouth during the offseason was like, have you seen
this Justin Wallerk. This guy can compete, he can run,
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he's smart. So not a surprise that Wally got that
first crack. Now, I think that's he's still a wide
open competition between Wally Jones and Juju Brentz. But right now,
I think that was a little encouraging to see the
rookie get a go at it here on day one
and you know, go out there and make a couple
of plays out there. So that's going to kind of
feed into our next conversation here, which is going to
be with cornerback Juju Brentz, a guy who has been
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through a lot in his two year career so far,
a lot of bad luck injuries Like this guy got
like kicked in the face and missed some time at
one point last year, he plays that entire Week one
game against the Texans. During the game, I think it
was Nico Collins fell on him awkwardly. He finishes the game,
he goes in for it, you know, to get it
checked out, not thinking it's anything major, and all of
(04:39):
a sudden, bam, you're on ir. He misses most of
last season because of that. But a guy who I think,
you know, my conversation with him, I learned he's really
kind of grown through that adversity, through those tough times
in those tough situations, and a guy I am absolutely
not counting out to this cornerback competition to start next
to Travarius Ward and Kenny Moore, the second in that
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dar defensive backfield so again.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And the guy I just I love talking to. He's
an indie guy.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He's done some really cool stuff in the community, giving
back to his community, his.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Church, really neat stuff. So here we go.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Here's Colts Cornerback Juju Brents. It is my pleasure to
be joined here on the Colt Show here at training
camp by cornerback Juju Brents. Juju Year three man, what
are you looking forward to in this training camp?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to just getting back out there
and could be you know, last year just going to
some child to lesson and I'll be able to play,
which was tough. So I made it through most of
camp last year. But now like this year's gonna put
a good camp underneath my building and then you know,
get to.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
The season that that competition is something that you know,
Chris Ballard, a lot of folks in this organization have
talked about needing to get that cornerback room looks awfully competitive.
Oh yeah, you know, mooney, Kenny kind of is your
vets there? But you know then you Jalen, justin, Sam Wollmack,
these guys in there like that. That seems like a
real good competitive environment to have there.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
No, definitely, I think you got to have competition, right,
gonna make all of us better. It's a healthy competition, man,
and uh, you know when to smoke clear, you know,
but just want to make sure that we got the best.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Guys out there.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So it's gonna be good for all of us, like
you said, all the guys coming back and the new
additions as well, it's gonna just make us all better.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I think sometimes like people hear competition and they think
like when you're not out there, you're gonna root against
like the guys who you're competing with. But like it
seems like within the football team it is that that
healthy competition where hey, if you know, Jalen goes out
there and breaks up a pass, So I want to
go out there and I want to do the same.
I want to, you know, show I can reach his level.
Like how does that play out between you guys there?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Fact, absolutely, especially at corner, you know, it's it's a
little bit different because it's the awesomate like just competitive
type of position. You know, you gotta be dowt in
every single play. Yeah, definitely when you see one of
your guys make a player, like, it gives you like
a different feeling because we know, like cornerback is tough.
So like you see somebody make up players like, Okay,
like I gotta go out there. I'm gonna make a
play now. But like it's a great thing for us.
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Like I think we all just want to see each
other win. At the end of the day, he win,
I win, Like the team win. So that's the tough
it's out of we have cornerback round.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
How do you approach as a cornerback those one on
one draws, because like those are you know, some receivers
are going to win those, you guys are gonna win those, Like,
how do you approach maybe the totality of those one
on one ones.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, it's just it's a it's a mental game for sure,
as much as its physical. But yeah, it's a it's
a type of I would say, just real where you
got to go into You just got to be real intentional, right,
you got to pay attention to every little thing, Like
you can't be like a half second late because that's
a loss playing cornerback position. So being really intentional, the
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way that you line up, the way that you're paying
attention to your keys, noticing if you got his right
foot up is inside foot, outside foot, whereas you got
your bottom of the numbers, see two yards you know
from the bottom of the numbers. Now I got just
leveling down like what type of routes that he may run.
So it's just like those little things like the mind
process you got to go through every single rep So
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just being real intentional, I.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Was gonna ask you, like what you're looking for, but
you just kind.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Of gave me the rundown of like that's just a
simple right list or that's simple.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That very simple to be a stupid person.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I mean like, but like when when Okay, So for example,
when you're looking at how are receivers lining up their feet,
what does that tell you?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Right, So if I'm seeing the receiver I'm playing outside corner,
he come up to the line of scrimmage and he
has his outside foot up. Now it's not one hundred
percent guarantee, but I'm anticipating I'm getting a hard jab
coming off this outside foot to go back inside immediately
he got his outside foot, I'm not anticipating him to
now switch his feet and then give me an outside release.
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So if he got his outside foot up, I'm being
heavy inside leverage. I'm gonna take that away because I
know that's what he want to get to.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
If it's inside foot up now, I ain't gonna give
you all my keys like right, but yeah, inside.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Foot up now it's a little bit different process.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right, I'm gonna take my leverage and then play the
play the game from their own. But yeah, it's just
just those little things you got to pick up on
you're not locked in, then that's a loss.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I remember.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I think it was Jordan Nelson once talked about this
where he was like, he talked about that and if
he was going to give an outside release, he would
do what you said, you know, he would kind of
switch his footwork or he would be able to get
an outside release even when he get his outside foot forward.
When you've faced a you know DeAndre Hopkins, you know
Davonte Adams, some of these VET receivers who have been there,
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done that in the league. What if you maybe learned
about those those nuances of playing cornerback against those guys
from those matchups.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Right when you go again, certain guys like that, you
understand that, like you just said with Jordan Nelson, they
can do that. So a lot of guys they may okay,
understand that. Okay, I maybe getting indication that maybe going inside,
but I may hop off the line like you may
see at Devonte Adams where it's more like a squares.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Release and he can go either way. So two ways.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So now I know that I got a chance to
be able to shoot my hands. I got to be
aggressive because if he gets to where he wanted to
get to, now it's a two way going. That's tough
you know, can be able to compete against. So I
mean it's just film study. You're going to get guys
like that. Just understand how they like to you know,
attack dbs. I mean film study against the officerve coordinator
as well, what they like when they see these guys.
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And he got a one on one match up, what
type of routes W soul.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
They give him? So just a film study.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So what do you look at in the off season
when you have you know, hours of ti time. Maybe
it's outside of the workouts that you're doing, uh to
to prepare for those extremely small details that can be
the difference between winning a rap and losing a rap.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah. I like to watch schemes. Definitely.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Know we got our schedule now, so I just look
at maybe where this offensive coordinator came from. Maybe it
may be a new team now, so I like to
look at the scheme. Maybe I may just watch like uh,
not long, just like a quarter of what so like
the first quarter that's we know guys are throwing out
there like most explosive players that they want to get
to in order to get the defense back on their heels.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So I may watch like a quarter just like the
skiing officer coordinators.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
And then depending on I know, like okay, this week
such and such as gonna be here and I may
know my match up what it may look like. I
like to just watch guys come off the line, just
little things like that. There's different little nu once that
I could pick up on. So then when I get
to the game, it's like, Okay, seen this before. So
I just like to watch little little things as far
as schemes, and then I like to watch study.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Guys as well a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Do you have a notebook that you keep I got
a yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah, I mean it's pretty heavy. It's pretty it's pretty heavy.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, But I mean sometimes I liked, Okay, I know
some guys that say they like the Curators on. I
get rid of mine first after the year, Like I
watched it, It's like, Okay, now I want to be
intentional and let's write it down again for this next
upcoming year.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So I remember this was something gust told me when
he was in Tampa with Derek Brooks, right like Hall
Fame linebacker. He was doing like a week one install
on like the first day of the off season program,
and Derek Brooks is in there taking these like very
detailed notes and he was like, why are you doing that?
And He's like, well, because even though i'm your ten
or whatever, there's always something new to learn. And I
think that kind of goes to if you continually write
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things down, that just probably helps you drill it into
your brain.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Right, absolutely, absolutely, I mean everybody learned different, but I'm
one of those guys as well, Like I like to
write it down. Then I feel like I attained it
a little bit better. Yeah, like I could carry over
my notes the next year. But I mean essentially, like
I feel like I'm doing myself with disservice. I like
to run down it may help or work for some.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Guys with me, I like to you know, all right,
I saw you did a lot of pilates this offseason,
but so SOJJ Speed told me this last year with pilates,
he's like to put your body in uncomfortable positions. So
when you know, because hitting someone and making a tackle
on the field, your body is in an awkward position.
And being in pilates, he told me, like helps get
my body used to that. What was your motivation for
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getting into pilates?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh man, So yeah, I am a little pilates mama.
Now I just did it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I wish you could see some of the videos you
had to be doing. But uh, I think my thought
press on it was like what you said with EJ.
I just learned for some of the vets and know
some guys. I was like, yeah, like it's a great
thing to be able to work on those little muscles
that you can't really I guess necessarily attack like in
the weight room. It's a different type of movement you know,
playing cornerback, you put you get put in a lot
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of unpredictable type of situations, like the way your body's moving,
you torquing your hips, constantly flipping and flipping. So those
little muscles that you need to find to them. I
feel like pilates is a great way to be able
to do it. So it's a lot of things where
you working on your your core, getting you in some
I don't know what you call it a back spring
where you've been over it. It's crazy, okay, but that
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feels like you could you could use that to break
up a pass. Working on your shoulders opening all the
way up. So I mean that was just my thought process,
and I mean it has I feel like open me
up a little bit more in different ways to where
my body feels a little bit more fluid, even though
I felt like I was a little bit just always
just trying to find different ways I can tine to
keep getting better.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
The the injuries and the things you've gone through in
your career, it's been you know, a hamstring, it's been
what the you had, the broken hand you've had. I
remember you had a quote last year where you said,
like if I'd played tennis. You know, I would have
been like, why is this happening to me? But you
chose to play football, right, I guess like as you
now approached this season and the opportunity you have, how
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do you view maybe what you've gone through over the
last two years now going into year three?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, I really do see the like the blessing this
guy's And I know when I was probably like a
little bit younger, ice to like question myself and wonder, like,
you know, like I just happened to my mom was
like she kind of told me that, She's like, you
play football. I want to understand that you play football.
It's just like we talked about this past year. It's like, Okay,
you broken those you went in and made at tackle,
you gotta kicked your face, you broke your those. Yeah,
that's not happening playing certain sports. You go out for
(14:15):
a ball last year and two guys fall on your
leg and hurt your knee, Like it's some of those
things just go be unpredictable. So it's just like, this
is what you signed up for, and yeah it may
be a little bad, look hopefully, it's just you know,
I put myself in right positions now to where I
could just be smooth selling and like the little things
as far as like the hand strings and stuff like that,
those are stuff that you can take care of on
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your own and try to limit. But like the little
things like where you may end up hurting knee, stuff
like that. Man, just sometimes things happen. So I think
for me, I've been to those deep waters now, I've
seen what that adversity looks like, and I know how
to deal with it. So that's like the blessing disguise
with me and anything i'd come up to it now
or any type of trigeipulations, It's not going to stir
(14:56):
me the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I've been there to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Can you almost view that? You know, corners have to
have that next play mentality right, like you've had to
overcome a lot to just get back to this point.
Can that maybe help like bolster that next play mentality
of like you know, hey, maybe I didn't win this rep,
but look think about what I've come, you know, been
through and got through to get back to this point.
Like does that help you at all?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Heah, yeah, it's definitely. Just it's lit like a like
a fire.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Me and I honestly had I just remember being in
a position last year where I played that whole game
and not knowing that I had touring my misking the
MCL and I was like, Okay, I'll be fine this week.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Throw a braceshole and go knock it out. We'd be cool.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's like, no, you got your surgery. And I remember
being in that position just like all right, this is
the reality, Like let's get through it. And then next
year like camp, Like that's what I was like. I'm like,
I'm gonna get through this and then be at camp
and look where we're at.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah, I'm good. We had camp.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So it is like it's just little different fire. I mean,
I'm just grateful, honestly to be in a position now
where I can get back out there.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
What do you What do you like about lou Anarumo
in the way he plays defense?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah? Aggressive, aggressive.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's one of those mentalities like okay, like you gotta
beat us, we go come to win, so you gotta
beat us and we go put it on the line.
So he also does just throw in a lot of
different looks where I feel like it's gonna be tough
for people to be able to fully decipher, like what
are we actually in?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
What'll we playing? And yeah, like when it comes down
to the line where we need to be aggressive, need
to make a play like he gon put this in
those positions.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So personality wise, uh, you know the first park never
seen he's very blunt. Yeah, do you like that as
a player? Someoney who's just a blunt communicator of Hey,
this is how this is what I saw you do
on this play.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
But this is how it's gotta be facts. That's how
I grew up. That's what I gravitate to it. Yeah,
I mean, like warn't to dhigh school. That's how our
coaches was. I started off by I was like a
lot of people. I don't know if you know Phil
Parker not, but he one of those like the divisquinerator there,
like extremely blunt. So that's what I'm used to. I mean,
like it's gonna hold us all accountable to a certain
(16:49):
like extent, like you're doing your job where you're not
doing your job. If you're not doing your job, I'm
gonna tell you what you need to do and then
it's up to you to be able to fix it.
You don't fix it, then now that's a problem. So
I mean, it's just it's an understanding. And I say, like,
we all kind of gravitors, gravitated tours, and it's gonna
make us better.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You're one of the people, the few people on this
team who probably understands what Indy's.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Like as a sports city.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Before the Pacers made their run this year, well, I
talked to a number of your teammates back in June
who all told me, like, the Pacers going on that
run motivated them because they they saw how like lit
things gotten Indy when they made the finals, and you know,
they they're like, we want to have that in the fall.
On Sunday, it's like, how do you how did you
digest that Pacers run? As someone who's watched Bob Sanders
(17:31):
here and you know, watch Super Bowls here, and it's
seemed great these great Pacers teams previously, but are like,
now you're on the Colts and now you're like, man,
we want to carry that that momentum into our season, Like,
how did you digest that?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
No, definitely the same way. I feel like that's what
our fans are used to. We used to actually, we
used to having, Like you said to Bob Sanders, the
Payton Manny's coming in where it's like it's suspected for
us to win. Oh man, we haven't been on that
trajectory lately. I mean we're getting closer, you know, we
right on the cuss of the playoffs, but it's like
our it's like their use to us winning. So like
for me growing up as a feni's like, no, like
(18:03):
the coach, I'm thinking every year, like we got a
chance to go to the Super Bowl, Pacers. I know,
it was kind of like a little drought, but I
know like in the nineties we was pretty good. But
then this past year, like it definitely was like, okay,
like now it's time for us to show up to
the patriers, showing up the city. I feel like we
just gained him on m as far as in the
sports and the fever, and it's all just great vibes
right now. And I feel like we'll be doing the
city of the service if we don't give our all
(18:24):
this year as well. So it definitely lit a fire
me too, like, okay, like we got to show up.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You've been really intentional about being out in the community
over the last couple of years as well. I know
you just had an event over the weekend. What was
it and what do you hope to get.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Out of that.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, so it was a partnership with me and my church,
the Jujuvention Folks Foundation, which is my mom at the
New Beginning's New b Indie and this is the third
end of your year.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
We've done it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And I remember when I got drafted, my mom was like, okay, like, yeah,
you a football player, but you more than that as well.
So any ways that you can be able to get
back to the city or just back to the community
in general, like, it's find ways for you bit to
do it, and it was I did. My mom kind
of came up with for me to just come in
conjunction with my church, which I've been a part of
the church as.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I was a child.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
So we had the community to day this past Saturday
where he was able to bless over a thousand families
with giving them backpacks for the kids supplies. Over one
hundred plus kids got free physicals getting ready for the
school year.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
In sports. That's awesome. We have people out there get
them haircuts.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
A lot of different smaller businesses was out there, you know,
just presenting their businesses to people and different vendors was
there and I don't know how many Dango food trucks.
He got some turkey turkey lege I had down asked
him about that. I think he had one of those,
like the State Fair turkey Legs had one of those.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
The tackles everything. It was just a great, great.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Time for people to come out to build a fellowship,
have a great vibe, get ready for the school, and
it definitely h It makes me feel good just to
be able to put my own kids place, because like
I remember being that kid and just seeing somebody was like, man,
he's playing the NFL or regardless of what the case
may be, but just being like I want to be
like that guy one day. So me being able to
show people like, no, like you can actually do it,
(20:01):
like I grew up in this same neighborhood just like you,
and just be able to get back to those keys
now as a blessing, I.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Was gonna say, like, how motivating is that to think
about yourself as a kid and being like, man, how
coolud it have been if when I was five, six,
seven eight, we had an Indianapolis Colts cornerback come come
to our church and come meet with us and come
have a relationship with like that. That's got to be
a pretty neat feeling, No, it is.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It is definitely dope and uh like feelings like that
I don't take for granted. Oh so, anyway, I'm gonna
be able to continue to keep doing that. I'm gonna
keep doing it. I'm just looking forward to years to
come with it. But it definitely is a good feeling
for sure, being like that kid one day and now
being a position from Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Juju brants Cult's cornerback. Good luck in training, cam Man,
appreciate you, Thanke, Thanks for coming on, sir. All right,
back here on the Cult Show and it's time for
the Colt Show mail Bag. Remember, submit your questions on
colts dot com slash mail Bag. You can drop them
in the YouTube comments of this episode, or you can
send them to me on social media Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, whatever.
(20:58):
I check all that stuff, So send your questions my way.
I'll always answer one on the podcast and then get
to other questions on colts dot com. So check that
out on Thursday for the Colt Show Mailbag on Colts
dot com as well. All right, this one comes to
us from the YouTube comments of last week's episode, the
training camp preview I did with Learra Overton, and it's
a good one from mister Deed's one to one seven,
(21:20):
He writes, other than Tyler Warren, what do you guys
want to see from the tight end group in training
camp and into the preseason with guys like Will Mallory. Okay,
so this was good because we've talked so much about
Tyler Warren. I feel like every week I get a
question about how the Colts are gonna use Tyler Warren
in this offense. Because god was the first round pick.
He's gonna be a big part of what the Colts
are gonna do, but he's not gonna be the only
(21:41):
part of this tight end group. I thought it was
notable today you saw Tyler Warren rotate in with the
first team offense with mo Alei Cox and Drew Ogletree,
the two guys who played the They were right up
there in snap percentage last year with Kylon Grantson. So
last year Molei Cox played forty three percent of the
Colts offensive snaps, Drew Ogletree played forty percent, Grantson was
(22:03):
at thirty nine percent. Will Mallory was down there at
nine percent, So you know, there's still gonna be opportunities.
Even if Tyler Warren is playing a high volume of snaps.
The Colts are going to need mo Aley, Cox, Ogletree, Mallory,
Jilannie Woods. You know, maybe you even get down into it.
You know, Albert Okawebunham Junior or Sean McKee and some
(22:24):
of these guys are competing for roster spots. Jeelanie Woods
as well as back and he's healthy. So what I
wanted to do though, is just sort of look at
what other teams who have drafted tight ends high have
had to do with their maybe second and third tight ends.
So I think that the example our minds all go
to here is Brock Bauers, who is the thirteenth overall
pick of the Raiders last year set all sorts of
(22:48):
rookie records for tight ends. He played eighty five percent
of Las Vegas offensive snaps. That is a really high volume.
He almost played a thousand snaps last year as a rookie,
but early on he was playing abouts. He was under
seventy percent for Las Vegas first three games. The next
two games he was in the high seventies. In terms
of snap percentage. And then after that it was like
(23:09):
the Raiders realized, Holy Holy Kyle, this guy's amazing. We
got to get him on the field as much as possible.
He never had a game below eighty three percent of
the snap share after that. So I was like, all right,
I don't know if brock Powers is maybe the right
example here. Look if Tyler Warren hits and he's playing
that level of the Colts offensive snaps, that's a really
good thing. I wanted to go back then and look
(23:29):
at what Kyle Pitts did. He was the fourth overall
pick in twenty twenty one of the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
He had a good year.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I think he had one thousand yards that year, but
that year he played seventy three point six percent of
Atlanta's snaps at tight end. The Falcons still had to
play other tight ends. It wasn't like this was just
Kyle Pitts. So Hayden Hurst that year played four hundred
and ten snaps, and Lee Smith, who was more of
a blocking tight end, played three hundred and eleven snaps.
(23:54):
So you're still looking at if I had to just
ballpark it, Guys like Moley Cox drew Ogletree, Will Mallory Woods,
whoever it might be. Those guys are still going to
need to cover anywhere from probably fifteen to twenty five,
maybe even thirty snaps a game, depending on what personnel
packages the colts are in. I like this collection with
(24:14):
Warren maybe kind of setting where everyone can be a
little bit more targeted in how they're used, because last
year it was like, you know, you had Kylon Grantson
who was sort of only relied on as a pass catcher,
and Mohali Cox, who was sort of only relied on
as a run blocker. Ogletree was a little more in
the run blocking realm there as well. If you put
(24:34):
Warren up here at the top and he's getting maybe
seventy to seventy five percent of the snaps if he
earns it, and then you've got Molei Cox. Hey, we're
in twelve personnel. We want to run the ball. Get
Mo on the field, Drew Ogletree, We're in twelve personnel.
We want to run the ball. Get Drew on the field.
You know, hey, we might want to throw it out
of this package and you know, throw a team off
by having twelve personnel. But we got Will Mallory maybe
lined up in the slot. There's a little bit more
(24:56):
flexibility the Colts can have. So I'm definitely to this
question here in the YouTube comments. I'm definitely keeping an
eye on the rest of these tight ends in addition
to Tyler Warren to figure out maybe what that pecking
order is, how the Colts are gonna use these guys
and these are these guys are all gonna play important
snaps for the Colts, even if maybe they aren't getting
the highest share of snaps within this offense. These guys are,
(25:20):
They're gonna play critical snaps, the snaps they're gonna need
to make big plays in big moments like we've seen
in years past. It is might be so that Tyler
Warren sort of pushes down the depth chart a little
bit to where you can use these guys in situations
that are really tailored to their skill set. So really
good question there from mister Deed's one one seven. Get
your questions in for next week's episode that's gonna come
(25:41):
out on Thursday. As always, we are loaded up here
on our podcast network with the Colts. We've got Inside
Football with Rick vent Turrey coming back next week. We've
got the Two Minute Drill podcast that my colleague Amanda
Foster is gonna host. That's gonna come out on Fridays.
And then it's like, right around the corner is gonna
be the Colts play in the Baltimore Ravens. Two weeks
from today, the Colts open the preseason against the Baltimore Ravens.
(26:04):
My guys Casey Valier and Bill Brooks are gonna have
an episode of Instant Reaction coming out right after that. Anyways,
thank you so much for watching and listening to this
episode of The Cult Show on YouTube on our podcast
network wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Thank you so much. Give us a five star review,
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Speaker 1 (26:22):
That helps get our podcast out to more people, with
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Speaker 2 (26:29):
I'm JJS. Thank if it's talk to you next week.
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