The Colts Show returns with JJ Stankevitz opening the podcast with his thoughts and remembrances of late Colts Owner & CEO Jim Irsay. JJ then is joined by Colts wide receiver Josh Downs for a conversation about where he's at in Year 3, how he's able to make catches through contact, his All-American brother Caleb and what the Pacers' run to the NBA Finals has taught him about Indianapolis.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ Stankovitz. Welcome into another episode
of The Colts Show in Indianapolis. Colts Podcast. We are back,
and I would be remiss if I did not begin
this episode by offering my condolences and my thoughts and
my prayers to the entire Ursay family, everyone who knew
mister Orsay. It's been a difficult couple of weeks around
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here on fifty sixth Street. The way that Jim Ersay
impacted this city and this organization, it's hard to even
fathom because we don't know everything. I mean, the amount
of people who he impacted without any cameras around, without
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any press, without even you know, Pete Ward knowing, it
was immense. And the thing that I just keep going
back to with all the tributes that have come out
to him, it has been just the general and the
massive heart that he had for people and for this
city and for this organization. It's it's been tough, and
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I know Jeffrey Gorman did an outstanding job memorializing mister Say,
paying tribute to him on his podcast that's already out
on all platforms that came out on Tuesday on high volume.
So please check that out. Really powerful impactful words from
someone in Jeffrey who knew mister say very very well.
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It's this is kind of our transition into you know,
we are going to still talk about football. But I
would be remiss if I didn't open this episode of
a couple of words. And I thought, I've thought about
this a lot. So when I started with the Colts.
I came here in twenty twenty one, and you know,
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I moved my family from Chicago to Indianapolis. And it's
not for nothing. I mean, picking your family up and
moving because of your job. That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I put a lot of pressure out of myself to
you know, make this the right spot, make the cults
the right spot. And one of those moments where I
knew I was in the right spot was in late
in twenty twenty one, my good friend Jeff Dickerson used
to cover the Bears for ESPN. He died of colon
cancer and j d had two years prior lost his
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wife to cancer. They left behind their son, Parker, and
there was a GoFundMe for Parker, you know, to support
him in this horrible tragedy that he had endured with
losing both of his parents to cancer, and I mentioned
it to Gorman. We were doing an official Cults podcast,
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and Jeffrey gave me the space to kind of talk
about j D a little bit and what he meant
to me and you know, my career and my friendship
with him, and I mentioned, you know, hey, there's this GoFundMe.
If anyone listening wants to support it, go ahead. So
that was probably ten o'clock in the morning on a Tuesday,
and then later that night I checked the GoFundMe and
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I saw there was a sizeable donation from Jim Orsay
to it, and I was just like overwhelmed and overcome
with you know, I cannot believe that me taking this
job and you know, me being here in Indianapolis has
helped support Parker because of mister Orsay, and that that
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was the moment, you know where I was like, you
know what, I made the right decision. I'm with an
organization that's going to take care of its people, that's
going to take care of people who need help. And
it was it was one of those moments that I'll
never forget, and I'll never forget just the generosity that
he he showed someone who meant something to me, and
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I know he you know, I'm sure people listening to this,
watching this have their own personal stories of how mister
Orsay impacted them. I've seen so many of them come
through the hashtag thank you Jim Orsay on social media
of you know, things he did big and small for people.
And you know, above else too, this guy freaking brought
a Lombardi Trophy to Indianapolis. You know, he's the reason
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why the Colts are here, why Lucas Oil Stadium and
the Indianapolis Colts are here. He's the reason why I'm here.
Then if we're all kind of extending that so, you
cannot minimize the impact he had. I think the tributes
that have gone out to him by you know, former players, coaches,
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current players, they've been so impactful, and I think it's
been it's been very fulfilling to see the NFL community
come together for mister Ersay and to kind of I
think a lot of people maybe outside of Indianapolis have
got they've maybe seen the impact that he's had on
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this city, on the people who've come through this organization,
on so much any individuals, and I think that's been
kind of cool to see like a like a national scale,
the way that he is being remembered. We're we're gonna
miss him a lot, and uh, you know, it's it's
gonna be a season of remembering him and honoring his legacy,
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which is so impactful and so deep. I wrote about
it on Colts dot Com, just the way that he
impacted so many people, somebody lives in Indiana, across the country.
It's really impactful. But I do want to talk a
little football, and you know, kind of it feels weird
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to almost make the transition back in, but we are,
you know, we are in OTAs. We do have a
big season upcoming here, and this podcast is going to
you know, we're back. We're here to talk about the Colts.
And I'm excited that today on the Pop bringing Josh
downs On, had a really good chat with him. This happened.
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My chat with Josh happened probably two weeks ago, two
or three weeks ago, so it was before mister Say died.
It also, notably, you'll see it was before the the
Pacers nixt series got started, so we kind of talked
about that a little bit at the end, but a
really good chat with Josh Downs, and next week coming
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up on the podcast, I had a really good chat
with James Franklin, Penn State's head coach, talking about Tyler Warren.
So that's gonna be next week and I'm gonna get
back into my thoughts maybe about this football team. Probably
not next week's podcast, but again, wanted to open this
podcast just talking about Jim Orsay again, my condolences to
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his wonderful family, Carly Klin, Casey, all of their spouses,
all their kids. You know, we all we all have
so much love for mister say here and that'll never change.
So anyways, let's get to my chat with Cults wide
receiver Josh Towns. All right, it is my pleasure to
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be joined here on the Colt Show by wide receiver
Josh Downs. Josh Man, you're three for you here doing
ota is doing off season work. What's maybe something you've
been able to, like hone in on a little bit
more now that you've got a couple of years of
experience under your belt at this point in the year.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, at this point of the year, just big like
I've noticed is just keep getting your body like as
healthy as possible.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So yeah, like and.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Also just getting better, getting faster, stronger, perfecting your craft.
But for me at the biggest thing is just getting
getting completely healthy and honing in on that because when
the season comes around, you're gonna have nigs, bumps here
and there. So it's like you don't have time to
take a week off during the season. You gotta just
go and go and go. So right now is doing
all the prehab rehab possible to just get get to
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that next level, make sure your body's in good shape.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's like, what does that sort of preh have rehab
look like for you?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean right now? I mean we have a great
change staff.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So I'm in there early and then staying after like
I just got done in there a few minutes ago,
and then just just doing ice, bad cry oh and
getting acupuncture, massages, anything possible to help. And then one
big thing I do is just I just try to
catch as many passes as I can every day.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Is that something like that time commitment of doing all
this this stuff. This is something I remember I talked
with like Quiddy and like fuck about it a couple
of years ago. Just like people who aren't in professional football,
and you obviously grew up in a family, you know,
where your dad played, like they don't understand that extra
time commitment. Like I think people just don't see the
like the midweek stuff, like how many hours a day
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are you putting in in that training room at this
point in the year, and then obviously like during the
season that maybe just no one else really sees.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean right now, I would assume at least
two hours plus a day. I'm in there, coming like
an hour plus before the lift, and then I don't
we get done like one o'clock and I usually don't
leave to three thirty four every day, so I mean
spend a lot of time in there and just trying
to get my body right. So I mean it's kind
of like any job, if you want to be good
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at it, you gotta spend extra time. You can't just
oh that we start at nine leave at one, like
you can do that, but I feel like that's like
the bare minimum. At the end of the day, you
put in what you get out what you put in.
So it's like if you don't if you don't put
in extra work, you're not gonna see extra results.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is your third year going through like installs with
Shane with Jim Bob, with Reggie like that offensive coaching staff.
How do you digest like a basic install right?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh yeah, So for me, like yeah, year three, as
you said, so pretty much know the offense in and out.
It's just mainly now just there's little things that you
might like, oh like I remember that, but I also didn't,
So let me write this down so that when the
time comes in the season, you're not like, oh, like,
what's the split on this player?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Like oh like I forgot the snap count.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So you just know specific things that you can just
look at and really fine tune in detail, and then
just just making sure your routes are great and catching
the ball is main main thing as a receiver. So
for me, like right now, like we installed, and we
do run the routes and run through some plays, but
I'm like every day is like all right, catch extra passes,
catch extra passes, so those those little focus drops and
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like thing like when you get tired, like you're not
in a game, like exhausted and drop a pass like
not like I already caught one hundred and fifty two
hundred balls a day in offseason, so it's gonna pay
off right now.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I want to ask you about a catch you had
last year. It was your first touchdown of the season,
and this kind is going to go into the like
how many balls are you catching?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So you run kind of a little out or out
and in you kind of feel some space. You're right
on the goal end. It's like third and four and
you catch it and Patrick Queen, linebacker on the Steelers,
big physical dudes kind of coming down at you. Kind
of walk me through this play because he pops you
and you hang out of the ball crossing the goal line.
How are you feeling that linebacker and what do you
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have to do to be able to make that catch
in a game setting?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, so basically, like the route like the coach coach
detailed up somewhere.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
There will be an opening in that area.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And basically like it was me and Pitt running like
a two man concept and it was gonna be based
off what that corner does and the corner dropped off
on Pitt so the underneath was open. But yeah, basically
that's that's an awareness thing on the field. You gotta
it's weird, like the call like spidy senses, I guess,
just being able to like you can't see the person,
but you like, like, I know somebody's around here somewhere,
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because they're not just gonna leave this space void. And
then when you feel that void, staying in it and
not just running to the next window where you'll get covered.
And then after that is when the ball does come
to you, like the defender's trying to knock your head off.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So at that point, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Moving your body into the correct spot to where I
can take this hit and hold onto the ball. And
then also just a way to absorb the hit in
the man or like all right, I'm not gonna take
a hit straight to the head or or like take
a ear hole shot. It's like now I'm gonna turn
my back so I might feel it still, but at
the end of the day, the ball's on the front
side of me, So I get hit my back still,
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LA and come down with it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
What does it feel like to make that catch and
then pop right back up and celebrate. I mean, I
don't think anyone watching this unless they're also an NFL player,
knows that it's like to get hit by a two
hundred and forty pounds linebacker like you're did on that play.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Nah, it's it's it's in the moment, you're like, okay, touchdown, surreal,
Like it's it's a blessing to get in that end zone.
It's hard. Even to get on the field and make
a catch is very hard. So you forget about all
that right after that, but you're gonna feel it the
next morning. That's that's really when it all kicks in.
You wake up and you're like, oh, my back kind
of hurt. It's like, oh I did did kind of
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get in a car accident right there. So it's like
in the moment, you don't. You're just like, Okay, I scored,
like like thank you, and then you celebrate with your teammates.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Your dad played running back. I mean, I'm sure he
had every week he probably felt like that. How did
he sort of coach you up of like how to
play through pain and just those those things that accumulate
throughout a season.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, So when I was younger, me and my brother
and my dad, it was just like basically like, y'all
can play running back now, but y'all not playing running
back at your main position. That's what he told us, Like,
that's that's a position you get banged up too.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Much.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
He was like, and he's like, you're gonna go through
injuries and football anyways, and he's like at running back,
I don't want y'all to have.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
To go through what I went through.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
But yeah, basically just just teaching us toughness, not to
be like like if, of course people are injured and
you can't help that, but there's times when you can
have a minor injury that I could sit out, but
it's like, I know I can play through this. So
it's like it's a mental game. It's like mind ever matters.
So not just always being hard on me and my
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brother being tough like and teaching us like, nah, even
even if you're sore, work through that source. Even if
you got a little pain, work through that. And I
always try to remember like a little phrase, pain builds power.
You keep working through that pain, Eventually you gonna see
the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's like one of those things where if it's if
it's not gonna get worse by you playing, does that
help you just kind of like mentally say Okay, yeah,
I can go go through this.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah one hundred percent. If you just know, like the
injuries not like chuckle, the trains and all that. If
you know, like, okay, you do have this and it's
gonna hurt a little bit, but eventually it'll go away.
Then it's like okay, but like then there's a side
of it you can get. You can make this worse,
and then it's like, okay, that is true, I can
still play through it. But then they's side of like,
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all right, I can't play through this and it'll get worse.
That's when you gotta take a step back and really
get in the treatment room, rehab and all that.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So your your dad told you, hey, don't play running back,
so you play wide receiver. Your brother goes to the
defensive side of the ball. Take me through the backyard
at the Downs household with you and Caleb going out
of his kids.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, well we both played offense and defense growing up,
and our dad was the main person working us out
all the time. So my brother is like an excellent
running back. That's what a lot of people don't know,
Like I firmly.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Well, he's a great punt returner, so I could see it.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, yeah, And he's like if he wanted to go
to college and play running back, I think those a
few schools that were just like, yeah, he can do that,
but I'm talking about phenomenal running back, one of the
best I've ever seen. But like my like my dad
was just like, oh, he has a knack for tackling.
He used play linebacker when he was younger, but he
was like I don't know. I mean, he's like I
don't know how big he's going to be to play linebacker,
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so kind of transitioned him to safety nickel, and I
mean it's been working out really well. He's always had
that knack for tackling, which helps his dB because like
there's always that that stereotype like oh DB's and coolies
don't want to tackle. But like now he has that
knack for tackling, but now he just had to build
those coverage skills and it just it just like flowed
very well.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Do you like say anything anything to him before games?
Do you like send him a text or you know
anything like that?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, so I do.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
My brother is very like superstitious kind of he doesn't
like text anybody back before his games. He don't, but
he reads the message. So I always send him a
good luck text and then talk to him after the game.
But before the games he's he's one of the most
like laser folks as people I have ever seen. He's
he's locked in on what he has to do and
he knows what he gotta do. So I eat, my
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mom my dad. We all talk about like he ain't
answered nobody on game day, but we still send like
the good luck text. But I'm the opposite, like they'll
they'll my parents text me and all that, I'm texting
them back and all that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So we're a little different.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Does it drive you nuts to watch football like on TV,
like a TV broadcast because he plays safety and sometimes
those TV broadcasts you can't see the safeties as soon
as the ball snapped, Like how do you watch your
brother play?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh, I always before the snap, I always see where
he is and then then I paying to.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
The like of course the main snap and all that.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But I can I always know when he makes the
play because I'm always like, I always know where he
is at the beginning to play, and then play happens,
goes through and I can tell what he did or
what he what he didn't do, and then I and
then I go from there. But yeah, whatever team he's on,
I'm number one fan of that team when he played
for Alabama, I was, I was screaming at the TV.
And now he's on Ohio State and I was doing
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the same thing last year.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Did you go to the championship game?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I did. I went to the championship game.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I went to the rivalry game when they played Michigan,
and I was supposed to go to the Cotton Bowl,
but my flight got canceled. So it was it was
like snowing in Georgia. And funny thing about Georgia when
they get snow, they don't they don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
They're not prepared.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
They're not prepared, so they get an inch of snow
and everything, it's just it's over with.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So what what was your like your view of watching
him win a championship, Like, how did you, as his brother,
sort of see that?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, I mean it was it was surreal. I was
very excited for him, like really's like i mean, like
with his successes, I'm just as happy, if not more happy,
when he when he achieved a lot of things, and
I'll just be when they won the national championship, him
being a big role in that, I was. I was
very happy. I mean I was in the stands cheering, yelling.
I'm when Notre Dame was coming back, I'm almost having
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a heart attack. I'm like, come on, like, let's get
it together, and I'm just but it was.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It was surreal.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I was I was very excited for and I mean
I'm very excited for that team. A lot of great
players on that team, and I know that they work
for it and they had they built that roster, and
it was good to see.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Him like that.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Do you, like, I don't know how much you did
this when when you were coming out, but like, do
you pay attention to mock drafts now at all? That
like have him as like this guy's gonna go top ten.
You know, he could be the first safety going to
the top tens in Shamala Adams, Like, do you pay
attention to any of that?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
So as of right now, I haven't as much, but
I do know he's in those talks, like I would
just assume he's in those talks.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I saw.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I see a little couple of TikTok Twitter videos talking
about him all the time and saying like, oh he's generational,
this that and the third and and I do see that.
So I'm gonna, of course, everybody sees those things, so
I'm going to see him.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But the thing about pre draft is it's a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Judging here and there, good and bad. Everybody's just critiquing you.
So as he's my little brother, so sometimes I'm like
get a little defense.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm like, I'm like, who are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But I'm just like yeah, Like I'm like, yeah, I
don't want to see all some of that stuff. But
I know he's gonna he's gonna kill it. He's gonna
be prepared, he's gonna have a great year, and everything's
gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What do you remember about your pre draft process and
like did you have to tune out everything that was
said about you? Like or did you maybe see like
this person said this negative thing about me, Like that's
not right. I'm going to use that as motivation, Like
how do you kind of handle that?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
A little bit of both. It's so different people handle
things different ways. I definitely did a little bit of both.
But you can't look at all of it because if
you look at all of it, you could you can
start like like thinking like oh dang, like hmm, maybe
they're right, or like somebody could be boosting you up
a lot, and you're like, oh, like I am this,
and so it's like you got to use it both
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good and bad.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But you can't look at it all day.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Every day you're gonna it's it's impossible not to see
it unless you're just not on social media at all.
But I would say, yeah, I just try to minimize that,
especially when you're coming out.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Do you ever think back on that, like that that
process to like where you're at now, having you know,
broke a Colts record as a rookie, led the team
in receptions last year, Like, do you ever think about
that now that you've had some success in the league.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, I think about it because I'm like, man, time
just flies by. I'm like I'm already on year three
and I just remember like being younger is like was
the main thing was like I just want to go
to the NFL. I'm like, it's year three now, and
I'm like pre pre draft is one of the it's
like one of the most. It's it's it's a very
exciting time for you. You're not in school, you're just
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working out for like two and a half three months.
It's it's a it's a surreal moment just work out,
go home, relax, and you're like, dang, I gotta I
got this down period of time. But then then you
hit it, hit the ground, runn and you got no
time to waste. And and when when teams, when teams
like draft you high, they expect you to come in
there and and contribute early.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So pre draft is a great time.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I think back on it all the time guys I
worked worked out with, and I'm just like, man, that
was an incredible time.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What has it been like for you? I mean, again,
you grew up in a football family. Your family's you
got you, you got kid, we got your dad, you
got you know, dre Bligh. But like being coached by
Reggie Wayne, what has that experience been like for you? Now?
Three years into being coached by a guy who you know,
his name is on the building. He should be in
the Hall of Fame, you know, a guy of his caliber.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, I mean it's uh.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I've always said I wanted to have a coach that played,
and having a guy like him is it comes with
a certain level of respect just like he been there,
done that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So it's it's it's cool to be able to just ask.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
A coach like what would you do here in this situation?
And and he's really done it before, So it's that's
that's probably the main part for me, just being able
to like be like, hey, coach, like they're they're they're
playing this kind of defense. I'm trying to run this
r out. What would you do? He explains it. Okay,
I understand that, and then try it out for yourself.
And then just again having a guy of that caliber,
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it comes with a level of respect, like, all.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Right, he's he's he's seen a lot, he's done a lot,
and like.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
If he if he believes in you, just like really
don't matter a lot of other people who don't believe
in you because he's been there, done that.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
We sometimes like the best players don't always make the
best coaches because they're like, you know, well I did
it this way, so this this is the only way
to do it. But I've never got that impression from
Reggie that like he's ever even you know, like you
can go ask him like, hey, how would you do this?
But he's never been like, you know, hey, the way
I did it, which was special, it got him fourteen
thousand yards is the only way to do it. I
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think that that must be a special trait that he
has as a coach to where he can lean on
his experience, but it's not the only way to do it,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, just because he's a player, he understand everybody's different.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So he like it's not like, hey, you do.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
This release and you do the same release because people
have different movements and he understands that. So like he's
one guy that's not like, hey, everybody needs to do
this release and you need to run the route this way.
It's like some people don't have the same feet, some
people don't have the same hands. So it's like you
got to be able to cater to your players. And
I think he does a good job of a Are you.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
A goals guy? Like a personal goals guy?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I used to be more I am now I try
to just I'm like being like a lot, like just
growing up in my faith and all that, I try
to just just do the work beforehand, and I just
I'm firm believer that God will take care of the rest.
So for me, I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna
put the work in beforehand. When my opportunity comes, it's
gonna come. But I mean of course personal goes like, yeah,
(23:21):
I want a thousand yards and doing stuff in that nature.
But I just believe that whenever the opportunity comes to me,
and however many opportunities that is, I got to just
take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And that's like, you know, the thousand yards come from
you setting the goals like down here right, Yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
The work and all that stuff beforehand, like I'm gonna
do extra here, extra there, so when those opportunities do come,
like I can, I can put those opportunities into fruition
and really make the place.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, last one for you here, So was the first
time you went to Indianapolis for the combine?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Uh? Yeah, Indianapolis? Yea.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I played Notre Dame one time in South Bend, but
that's that's not the first time was.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
The Okay, So you've lived here now for three years?
What has seeing what the Pacers are doing right now?
What does that taught you about this city?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
So I have definitely been keeping track of the Pacers'.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You've been saying pacers in five.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I mean, I think the Pacers gonna beat the Knicks
in six or seven in my opinion, and I think
it would be the Pacers and the Oka See in
the finals. I don't know who's gonna win the finals,
but I do think it will be Pacers and Okay, see,
there are more similar.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Teams than people want to admit.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
They're both very young, they've run, they got a lot
of dudes that can score. So I'm interested in how
that that final series playout. I believe they can be
okay see so but now it see it shows how
the city will get behind the team's back and you're
making plays, you out there balling like they're gonna be
right there with you, Like they pack up the stadium
just as good as the Knicks do. So I love
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to see it, and I really think that the Pacers
can make it a deep run even win it.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So is that like inspirational for you at all? To
like see, hey, like you know, Pacers are doing this,
this is how the city gets behind them. Let's go
do that for us with the Colts?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Like yeah, yeah, you definitely want to You definitely want
to follow suits today. You don't want to be like
a even the w NBA team, you don't want to be, uh,
the the person left behind. It's like, well they're they're
handling there so it's like we got to do the
same and like we got a bigger stadium. It's like
and it would bring even more fans. So it's like
it's like, well they're they're sitting the stage right now.
(25:24):
It's like we come in later in the year and
we gotta we gotta finish it off.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That's cool, Josh Downess, appreciate your time. Man, you're on
the podcast all right. Thanks again to Josh Downs for
joining me here on the Cult Show. Remember tune in
to High Volume with Jeffrey Gorman a really special episode
this week talking about the life and legacy of Jim Mersay,
paying tribute to Jim or say That podcast again is
(25:47):
already out on YouTube, on Apple, Podcasts, on Spotify, wherever
you get your cults podcasts, go check that out. I
will be back next week with Penn State head coach
James Franklin. Had a really insightful check about Tyler Warren
and the kind of impact he can make. I will
also bring the Colt Show mail Bag back next week.
Submit your questions remember you can get those in on
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However you want to get at me, you can find
me on those platforms and again. We'll be back next
week here on The Cult Show. Until then, so long,
Thank you for listening, thank you for watching.
Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ Stankovitz. Welcome into another episode
of The Colts Show in Indianapolis. Colts Podcast. We are back,
and I would be remiss if I did not begin
this episode by offering my condolences and my thoughts and
my prayers to the entire Ursay family, everyone who knew
mister Orsay. It's been a difficult couple of weeks around
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here on fifty sixth Street. The way that Jim Ersay
impacted this city and this organization, it's hard to even
fathom because we don't know everything. I mean, the amount
of people who he impacted without any cameras around, without
(00:45):
any press, without even you know, Pete Ward knowing, it
was immense. And the thing that I just keep going
back to with all the tributes that have come out
to him, it has been just the general and the
massive heart that he had for people and for this
city and for this organization. It's it's been tough, and
(01:11):
I know Jeffrey Gorman did an outstanding job memorializing mister Say,
paying tribute to him on his podcast that's already out
on all platforms that came out on Tuesday on high volume.
So please check that out. Really powerful impactful words from
someone in Jeffrey who knew mister say very very well.
(01:32):
It's this is kind of our transition into you know,
we are going to still talk about football. But I
would be remiss if I didn't open this episode of
a couple of words. And I thought, I've thought about
this a lot. So when I started with the Colts.
I came here in twenty twenty one, and you know,
(01:53):
I moved my family from Chicago to Indianapolis. And it's
not for nothing. I mean, picking your family up and
moving because of your job. That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I put a lot of pressure out of myself to
you know, make this the right spot, make the cults
the right spot. And one of those moments where I
knew I was in the right spot was in late
in twenty twenty one, my good friend Jeff Dickerson used
to cover the Bears for ESPN. He died of colon
cancer and j d had two years prior lost his
(02:26):
wife to cancer. They left behind their son, Parker, and
there was a GoFundMe for Parker, you know, to support
him in this horrible tragedy that he had endured with
losing both of his parents to cancer, and I mentioned
it to Gorman. We were doing an official Cults podcast,
(02:47):
and Jeffrey gave me the space to kind of talk
about j D a little bit and what he meant
to me and you know, my career and my friendship
with him, and I mentioned, you know, hey, there's this GoFundMe.
If anyone listening wants to support it, go ahead. So
that was probably ten o'clock in the morning on a Tuesday,
and then later that night I checked the GoFundMe and
(03:09):
I saw there was a sizeable donation from Jim Orsay
to it, and I was just like overwhelmed and overcome
with you know, I cannot believe that me taking this
job and you know, me being here in Indianapolis has
helped support Parker because of mister Orsay, and that that
(03:29):
was the moment, you know where I was like, you
know what, I made the right decision. I'm with an
organization that's going to take care of its people, that's
going to take care of people who need help. And
it was it was one of those moments that I'll
never forget, and I'll never forget just the generosity that
he he showed someone who meant something to me, and
(03:52):
I know he you know, I'm sure people listening to this,
watching this have their own personal stories of how mister
Orsay impacted them. I've seen so many of them come
through the hashtag thank you Jim Orsay on social media
of you know, things he did big and small for people.
And you know, above else too, this guy freaking brought
a Lombardi Trophy to Indianapolis. You know, he's the reason
(04:15):
why the Colts are here, why Lucas Oil Stadium and
the Indianapolis Colts are here. He's the reason why I'm here.
Then if we're all kind of extending that so, you
cannot minimize the impact he had. I think the tributes
that have gone out to him by you know, former players, coaches,
(04:35):
current players, they've been so impactful, and I think it's
been it's been very fulfilling to see the NFL community
come together for mister Ersay and to kind of I
think a lot of people maybe outside of Indianapolis have
got they've maybe seen the impact that he's had on
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this city, on the people who've come through this organization,
on so much any individuals, and I think that's been
kind of cool to see like a like a national scale,
the way that he is being remembered. We're we're gonna
miss him a lot, and uh, you know, it's it's
gonna be a season of remembering him and honoring his legacy,
(05:20):
which is so impactful and so deep. I wrote about
it on Colts dot Com, just the way that he
impacted so many people, somebody lives in Indiana, across the country.
It's really impactful. But I do want to talk a
little football, and you know, kind of it feels weird
(05:41):
to almost make the transition back in, but we are,
you know, we are in OTAs. We do have a
big season upcoming here, and this podcast is going to
you know, we're back. We're here to talk about the Colts.
And I'm excited that today on the Pop bringing Josh
downs On, had a really good chat with him. This happened.
(06:05):
My chat with Josh happened probably two weeks ago, two
or three weeks ago, so it was before mister Say died.
It also, notably, you'll see it was before the the
Pacers nixt series got started, so we kind of talked
about that a little bit at the end, but a
really good chat with Josh Downs, and next week coming
(06:28):
up on the podcast, I had a really good chat
with James Franklin, Penn State's head coach, talking about Tyler Warren.
So that's gonna be next week and I'm gonna get
back into my thoughts maybe about this football team. Probably
not next week's podcast, but again, wanted to open this
podcast just talking about Jim Orsay again, my condolences to
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his wonderful family, Carly Klin, Casey, all of their spouses,
all their kids. You know, we all we all have
so much love for mister say here and that'll never change.
So anyways, let's get to my chat with Cults wide
receiver Josh Towns. All right, it is my pleasure to
(07:09):
be joined here on the Colt Show by wide receiver
Josh Downs. Josh Man, you're three for you here doing
ota is doing off season work. What's maybe something you've
been able to, like hone in on a little bit
more now that you've got a couple of years of
experience under your belt at this point in the year.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, at this point of the year, just big like
I've noticed is just keep getting your body like as
healthy as possible.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So yeah, like and.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Also just getting better, getting faster, stronger, perfecting your craft.
But for me at the biggest thing is just getting
getting completely healthy and honing in on that because when
the season comes around, you're gonna have nigs, bumps here
and there. So it's like you don't have time to
take a week off during the season. You gotta just
go and go and go. So right now is doing
all the prehab rehab possible to just get get to
(07:54):
that next level, make sure your body's in good shape.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's like, what does that sort of preh have rehab
look like for you?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean right now? I mean we have a great
change staff.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So I'm in there early and then staying after like
I just got done in there a few minutes ago,
and then just just doing ice, bad cry oh and
getting acupuncture, massages, anything possible to help. And then one
big thing I do is just I just try to
catch as many passes as I can every day.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Is that something like that time commitment of doing all
this this stuff. This is something I remember I talked
with like Quiddy and like fuck about it a couple
of years ago. Just like people who aren't in professional football,
and you obviously grew up in a family, you know,
where your dad played, like they don't understand that extra
time commitment. Like I think people just don't see the
like the midweek stuff, like how many hours a day
(08:41):
are you putting in in that training room at this
point in the year, and then obviously like during the
season that maybe just no one else really sees.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean right now, I would assume at least
two hours plus a day. I'm in there, coming like
an hour plus before the lift, and then I don't
we get done like one o'clock and I usually don't
leave to three thirty four every day, so I mean
spend a lot of time in there and just trying
to get my body right. So I mean it's kind
of like any job, if you want to be good
(09:08):
at it, you gotta spend extra time. You can't just
oh that we start at nine leave at one, like
you can do that, but I feel like that's like
the bare minimum. At the end of the day, you
put in what you get out what you put in.
So it's like if you don't if you don't put
in extra work, you're not gonna see extra results.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is your third year going through like installs with
Shane with Jim Bob, with Reggie like that offensive coaching staff.
How do you digest like a basic install right?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh yeah, So for me, like yeah, year three, as
you said, so pretty much know the offense in and out.
It's just mainly now just there's little things that you
might like, oh like I remember that, but I also didn't,
So let me write this down so that when the
time comes in the season, you're not like, oh, like,
what's the split on this player?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Like oh like I forgot the snap count.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So you just know specific things that you can just
look at and really fine tune in detail, and then
just just making sure your routes are great and catching
the ball is main main thing as a receiver. So
for me, like right now, like we installed, and we
do run the routes and run through some plays, but
I'm like every day is like all right, catch extra passes,
catch extra passes, so those those little focus drops and
(10:17):
like thing like when you get tired, like you're not
in a game, like exhausted and drop a pass like
not like I already caught one hundred and fifty two
hundred balls a day in offseason, so it's gonna pay
off right now.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I want to ask you about a catch you had
last year. It was your first touchdown of the season,
and this kind is going to go into the like
how many balls are you catching?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So you run kind of a little out or out
and in you kind of feel some space. You're right
on the goal end. It's like third and four and
you catch it and Patrick Queen, linebacker on the Steelers,
big physical dudes kind of coming down at you. Kind
of walk me through this play because he pops you
and you hang out of the ball crossing the goal line.
How are you feeling that linebacker and what do you
(10:54):
have to do to be able to make that catch
in a game setting?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, so basically, like the route like the coach coach
detailed up somewhere.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
There will be an opening in that area.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And basically like it was me and Pitt running like
a two man concept and it was gonna be based
off what that corner does and the corner dropped off
on Pitt so the underneath was open. But yeah, basically
that's that's an awareness thing on the field. You gotta
it's weird, like the call like spidy senses, I guess,
just being able to like you can't see the person,
but you like, like, I know somebody's around here somewhere,
(11:26):
because they're not just gonna leave this space void. And
then when you feel that void, staying in it and
not just running to the next window where you'll get covered.
And then after that is when the ball does come
to you, like the defender's trying to knock your head off.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So at that point, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Moving your body into the correct spot to where I
can take this hit and hold onto the ball. And
then also just a way to absorb the hit in
the man or like all right, I'm not gonna take
a hit straight to the head or or like take
a ear hole shot. It's like now I'm gonna turn
my back so I might feel it still, but at
the end of the day, the ball's on the front
side of me, So I get hit my back still,
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LA and come down with it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
What does it feel like to make that catch and
then pop right back up and celebrate. I mean, I
don't think anyone watching this unless they're also an NFL player,
knows that it's like to get hit by a two
hundred and forty pounds linebacker like you're did on that play.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Nah, it's it's it's in the moment, you're like, okay, touchdown, surreal,
Like it's it's a blessing to get in that end zone.
It's hard. Even to get on the field and make
a catch is very hard. So you forget about all
that right after that, but you're gonna feel it the
next morning. That's that's really when it all kicks in.
You wake up and you're like, oh, my back kind
of hurt. It's like, oh I did did kind of
(12:35):
get in a car accident right there. So it's like
in the moment, you don't. You're just like, Okay, I scored,
like like thank you, and then you celebrate with your teammates.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Your dad played running back. I mean, I'm sure he
had every week he probably felt like that. How did
he sort of coach you up of like how to
play through pain and just those those things that accumulate
throughout a season.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, So when I was younger, me and my brother
and my dad, it was just like basically like, y'all
can play running back now, but y'all not playing running
back at your main position. That's what he told us, Like,
that's that's a position you get banged up too.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Much.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
He was like, and he's like, you're gonna go through
injuries and football anyways, and he's like at running back,
I don't want y'all to have.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
To go through what I went through.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
But yeah, basically just just teaching us toughness, not to
be like like if, of course people are injured and
you can't help that, but there's times when you can
have a minor injury that I could sit out, but
it's like, I know I can play through this. So
it's like it's a mental game. It's like mind ever matters.
So not just always being hard on me and my
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brother being tough like and teaching us like, nah, even
even if you're sore, work through that source. Even if
you got a little pain, work through that. And I
always try to remember like a little phrase, pain builds power.
You keep working through that pain, Eventually you gonna see
the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's like one of those things where if it's if
it's not gonna get worse by you playing, does that
help you just kind of like mentally say Okay, yeah,
I can go go through this.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah one hundred percent. If you just know, like the
injuries not like chuckle, the trains and all that. If
you know, like, okay, you do have this and it's
gonna hurt a little bit, but eventually it'll go away.
Then it's like okay, but like then there's a side
of it you can get. You can make this worse,
and then it's like, okay, that is true, I can
still play through it. But then they's side of like,
(14:22):
all right, I can't play through this and it'll get worse.
That's when you gotta take a step back and really
get in the treatment room, rehab and all that.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So your your dad told you, hey, don't play running back,
so you play wide receiver. Your brother goes to the
defensive side of the ball. Take me through the backyard
at the Downs household with you and Caleb going out
of his kids.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, well we both played offense and defense growing up,
and our dad was the main person working us out
all the time. So my brother is like an excellent
running back. That's what a lot of people don't know,
Like I firmly.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Well, he's a great punt returner, so I could see it.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, yeah, And he's like if he wanted to go
to college and play running back, I think those a
few schools that were just like, yeah, he can do that,
but I'm talking about phenomenal running back, one of the
best I've ever seen. But like my like my dad
was just like, oh, he has a knack for tackling.
He used play linebacker when he was younger, but he
was like I don't know. I mean, he's like I
don't know how big he's going to be to play linebacker,
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so kind of transitioned him to safety nickel, and I
mean it's been working out really well. He's always had
that knack for tackling, which helps his dB because like
there's always that that stereotype like oh DB's and coolies
don't want to tackle. But like now he has that
knack for tackling, but now he just had to build
those coverage skills and it just it just like flowed
very well.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Do you like say anything anything to him before games?
Do you like send him a text or you know
anything like that?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, so I do.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
My brother is very like superstitious kind of he doesn't
like text anybody back before his games. He don't, but
he reads the message. So I always send him a
good luck text and then talk to him after the game.
But before the games he's he's one of the most
like laser folks as people I have ever seen. He's
he's locked in on what he has to do and
he knows what he gotta do. So I eat, my
(16:06):
mom my dad. We all talk about like he ain't
answered nobody on game day, but we still send like
the good luck text. But I'm the opposite, like they'll
they'll my parents text me and all that, I'm texting
them back and all that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So we're a little different.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Does it drive you nuts to watch football like on TV,
like a TV broadcast because he plays safety and sometimes
those TV broadcasts you can't see the safeties as soon
as the ball snapped, Like how do you watch your
brother play?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh, I always before the snap, I always see where
he is and then then I paying to.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
The like of course the main snap and all that.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But I can I always know when he makes the
play because I'm always like, I always know where he
is at the beginning to play, and then play happens,
goes through and I can tell what he did or
what he what he didn't do, and then I and
then I go from there. But yeah, whatever team he's on,
I'm number one fan of that team when he played
for Alabama, I was, I was screaming at the TV.
And now he's on Ohio State and I was doing
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the same thing last year.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Did you go to the championship game?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I did. I went to the championship game.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I went to the rivalry game when they played Michigan,
and I was supposed to go to the Cotton Bowl,
but my flight got canceled. So it was it was
like snowing in Georgia. And funny thing about Georgia when
they get snow, they don't they don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
They're not prepared.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
They're not prepared, so they get an inch of snow
and everything, it's just it's over with.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So what what was your like your view of watching
him win a championship, Like, how did you, as his brother,
sort of see that?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, I mean it was it was surreal. I was
very excited for him, like really's like i mean, like
with his successes, I'm just as happy, if not more happy,
when he when he achieved a lot of things, and
I'll just be when they won the national championship, him
being a big role in that, I was. I was
very happy. I mean I was in the stands cheering, yelling.
I'm when Notre Dame was coming back, I'm almost having
(17:53):
a heart attack. I'm like, come on, like, let's get
it together, and I'm just but it was.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It was surreal.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I was I was very excited for and I mean
I'm very excited for that team. A lot of great
players on that team, and I know that they work
for it and they had they built that roster, and
it was good to see.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Him like that.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Do you, like, I don't know how much you did
this when when you were coming out, but like, do
you pay attention to mock drafts now at all? That
like have him as like this guy's gonna go top ten.
You know, he could be the first safety going to
the top tens in Shamala Adams, Like, do you pay
attention to any of that?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
So as of right now, I haven't as much, but
I do know he's in those talks, like I would
just assume he's in those talks.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I saw.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I see a little couple of TikTok Twitter videos talking
about him all the time and saying like, oh he's generational,
this that and the third and and I do see that.
So I'm gonna, of course, everybody sees those things, so
I'm going to see him.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But the thing about pre draft is it's a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Judging here and there, good and bad. Everybody's just critiquing you.
So as he's my little brother, so sometimes I'm like
get a little defense.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm like, I'm like, who are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But I'm just like yeah, Like I'm like, yeah, I
don't want to see all some of that stuff. But
I know he's gonna he's gonna kill it. He's gonna
be prepared, he's gonna have a great year, and everything's
gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What do you remember about your pre draft process and
like did you have to tune out everything that was
said about you? Like or did you maybe see like
this person said this negative thing about me, Like that's
not right. I'm going to use that as motivation, Like
how do you kind of handle that?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
A little bit of both. It's so different people handle
things different ways. I definitely did a little bit of both.
But you can't look at all of it because if
you look at all of it, you could you can
start like like thinking like oh dang, like hmm, maybe
they're right, or like somebody could be boosting you up
a lot, and you're like, oh, like I am this,
and so it's like you got to use it both
(19:40):
good and bad.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But you can't look at it all day.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Every day you're gonna it's it's impossible not to see
it unless you're just not on social media at all.
But I would say, yeah, I just try to minimize that,
especially when you're coming out.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Do you ever think back on that, like that that
process to like where you're at now, having you know,
broke a Colts record as a rookie, led the team
in receptions last year, Like, do you ever think about
that now that you've had some success in the league.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, I think about it because I'm like, man, time
just flies by. I'm like I'm already on year three
and I just remember like being younger is like was
the main thing was like I just want to go
to the NFL. I'm like, it's year three now, and
I'm like pre pre draft is one of the it's
like one of the most. It's it's it's a very
exciting time for you. You're not in school, you're just
(20:25):
working out for like two and a half three months.
It's it's a it's a surreal moment just work out,
go home, relax, and you're like, dang, I gotta I
got this down period of time. But then then you
hit it, hit the ground, runn and you got no
time to waste. And and when when teams, when teams
like draft you high, they expect you to come in
there and and contribute early.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So pre draft is a great time.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I think back on it all the time guys I
worked worked out with, and I'm just like, man, that
was an incredible time.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What has it been like for you? I mean, again,
you grew up in a football family. Your family's you
got you, you got kid, we got your dad, you
got you know, dre Bligh. But like being coached by
Reggie Wayne, what has that experience been like for you? Now?
Three years into being coached by a guy who you know,
his name is on the building. He should be in
the Hall of Fame, you know, a guy of his caliber.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, I mean it's uh.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I've always said I wanted to have a coach that played,
and having a guy like him is it comes with
a certain level of respect just like he been there,
done that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So it's it's it's cool to be able to just ask.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
A coach like what would you do here in this situation?
And and he's really done it before, So it's that's
that's probably the main part for me, just being able
to like be like, hey, coach, like they're they're they're
playing this kind of defense. I'm trying to run this
r out. What would you do? He explains it. Okay,
I understand that, and then try it out for yourself.
And then just again having a guy of that caliber,
(21:48):
it comes with a level of respect, like, all.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Right, he's he's he's seen a lot, he's done a lot,
and like.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
If he if he believes in you, just like really
don't matter a lot of other people who don't believe
in you because he's been there, done that.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
We sometimes like the best players don't always make the
best coaches because they're like, you know, well I did
it this way, so this this is the only way
to do it. But I've never got that impression from
Reggie that like he's ever even you know, like you
can go ask him like, hey, how would you do this?
But he's never been like, you know, hey, the way
I did it, which was special, it got him fourteen
thousand yards is the only way to do it. I
(22:22):
think that that must be a special trait that he
has as a coach to where he can lean on
his experience, but it's not the only way to do it,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, just because he's a player, he understand everybody's different.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So he like it's not like, hey, you do.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
This release and you do the same release because people
have different movements and he understands that. So like he's
one guy that's not like, hey, everybody needs to do
this release and you need to run the route this way.
It's like some people don't have the same feet, some
people don't have the same hands. So it's like you
got to be able to cater to your players. And
I think he does a good job of a Are you.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
A goals guy? Like a personal goals guy?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I used to be more I am now I try
to just I'm like being like a lot, like just
growing up in my faith and all that, I try
to just just do the work beforehand, and I just
I'm firm believer that God will take care of the rest.
So for me, I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna
put the work in beforehand. When my opportunity comes, it's
gonna come. But I mean of course personal goes like, yeah,
(23:21):
I want a thousand yards and doing stuff in that nature.
But I just believe that whenever the opportunity comes to me,
and however many opportunities that is, I got to just
take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And that's like, you know, the thousand yards come from
you setting the goals like down here right, Yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
The work and all that stuff beforehand, like I'm gonna
do extra here, extra there, so when those opportunities do come,
like I can, I can put those opportunities into fruition
and really make the place.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, last one for you here, So was the first
time you went to Indianapolis for the combine?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Uh? Yeah, Indianapolis? Yea.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I played Notre Dame one time in South Bend, but
that's that's not the first time was.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
The Okay, So you've lived here now for three years?
What has seeing what the Pacers are doing right now?
What does that taught you about this city?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
So I have definitely been keeping track of the Pacers'.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You've been saying pacers in five.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I mean, I think the Pacers gonna beat the Knicks
in six or seven in my opinion, and I think
it would be the Pacers and the Oka See in
the finals. I don't know who's gonna win the finals,
but I do think it will be Pacers and Okay, see,
there are more similar.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Teams than people want to admit.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
They're both very young, they've run, they got a lot
of dudes that can score. So I'm interested in how
that that final series playout. I believe they can be
okay see so but now it see it shows how
the city will get behind the team's back and you're
making plays, you out there balling like they're gonna be
right there with you, Like they pack up the stadium
just as good as the Knicks do. So I love
(24:50):
to see it, and I really think that the Pacers
can make it a deep run even win it.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So is that like inspirational for you at all? To
like see, hey, like you know, Pacers are doing this,
this is how the city gets behind them. Let's go
do that for us with the Colts?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Like yeah, yeah, you definitely want to You definitely want
to follow suits today. You don't want to be like
a even the w NBA team, you don't want to be, uh,
the the person left behind. It's like, well they're they're
handling there so it's like we got to do the
same and like we got a bigger stadium. It's like
and it would bring even more fans. So it's like
it's like, well they're they're sitting the stage right now.
(25:24):
It's like we come in later in the year and
we gotta we gotta finish it off.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That's cool, Josh Downess, appreciate your time. Man, you're on
the podcast all right. Thanks again to Josh Downs for
joining me here on the Cult Show. Remember tune in
to High Volume with Jeffrey Gorman a really special episode
this week talking about the life and legacy of Jim Mersay,
paying tribute to Jim or say That podcast again is
(25:47):
already out on YouTube, on Apple, Podcasts, on Spotify, wherever
you get your cults podcasts, go check that out. I
will be back next week with Penn State head coach
James Franklin. Had a really insightful check about Tyler Warren
and the kind of impact he can make. I will
also bring the Colt Show mail Bag back next week.
Submit your questions remember you can get those in on
(26:09):
colts dot com slash mail Bag. You can submit them
in the YouTube comments for this episode, or you can
send them to me on social media, on Twitter, on Instagram.
However you want to get at me, you can find
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week here on The Cult Show. Until then, so long,
Thank you for listening, thank you for watching.
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