Inside the Draft returns this week, bringing expert insights from the top NFL Draft insiders leading up to the 2025 NFL Draft. This week, Jeffrey Gorman and Casey Vallier are joined by Garrett Podell, NFL Staff Writer for CBS Sports. They dive into the top quarterback prospects in this draft, with Garrett naming Cam Ward as his top QB in this year's class and covers the potential impact of Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland in the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the
upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country. It's
time again for our next installment of Inside the Draft
inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studios right here
on the Colts Audio Network. The calendar, it finally says April,
(00:24):
just a couple of weeks away from the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft. This year is going to be held
in Green Bay, the first time they're going to host
the NFL Draft, and they're the ninth NFL city to
host the draft since it turned into a road show
if you will, back in twenty fifteen. Other cities who
have hosted Chicago, Philadelphia, Arlington, Nashville, Cleveland, Las Vegas, Kansas City,
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and Detroit. And last May was announced that next year's
NFL Draft twenty twenty six will be held in Pittsburgh.
As it sits now, the Colts will select fourteenth in
the upcoming NFL Draft. Another fun nugget about this draft,
every team currently has their first round picks, but per usual,
trades on Draft night are expected and more than likely
(01:06):
will happen. But right now every team has their first
round selection. Today's guest on Inside the Draft to help
get us caught up on everything as we look forward.
Here in a couple of weeks is Garrett Podell of
CBS Sports and he joined myself, Casey Valier, and Jeffrey Gorman.
You can check out Garrett's work at cbssports dot com
and on Twitter x at Garrett Podell. So here we go.
(01:29):
Here's our conversation with Garrett Podell, part of Inside the Draft.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, fans, time to get smarter, and we're gonna do
that with Garrett Podell from CBS Sports and NFL staff
writer has a recent new mock draft you have up.
We're gonna get into the draft that you have, but
I've got to talk about some current questions regarding the
Colts quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Garrett, let's do it. Thank you so much for having
me on.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Always excited to talk ball, especially with you guys here
with an illustrious NFL team like the in Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, here we go, man, it's all about the quarterback position.
You know this league better than most. Like I said,
we're gonna get into the draft questions. But when we
talk about the Colts offense in particular, the quarterback position.
Everybody knows this. There is a quarterback competition now in Indianapolis,
and it is between Anthony Richardson, the fourth overall pick
a few years back, and Daniel Jones, the sixth overall
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pick a few years back. If you could just give
us your once over on this competition, what you like
about both guys, and what you see for the future
as far as leading this offense.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So first I'll kind of lay out sort of the
overall picture of these two guys individually, and then sort
of my take on the competition in and of itself.
So let's look at Anthony Richardson right oozing with potential physically,
but he's like a nearly historic.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Boom or bust quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
So he was last in the NFL and completion percentage
last year forty seven point seven percent, but first and
yards per completion fourteen point four yards per completion.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Last season.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
He was the first player to rank last and completion
percentage and first in yards per completion since Heath Shuler
with Washington in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So it's been a while since there's.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Been this big of a boom or bust kind of
quarterback like Richardson was this past season, only played him
fifteen of a possible thirty four games.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Don't like that.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
He's somebody who you would think the Colts will do
everything possible to have him be a success, given top
five pick and all of those things.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But he's interesting. And then his competition.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
We said, it's a competition, right, Daniel Jones is his competition,
and you know, the Colts gave him a one year,
fourteen million dollar deal twenty twenty four season for him,
So it marked the fourth time in the last five
years that he'd started each of his.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Team's first ten games and had fewer than ten touchdown passes.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's something all other nflqbs have only done four times
in the last five years, according to CBS Sports Research.
So what he's done in terms of lack of productivity
the last few years is kind of unprecedented. He's also
gone fifty eight consecutive starts without throwing three or more
touchdowns in a game, which is the longest streak in
the last thirty NFL seasons according to CBS Sports Research.
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So both of these guys were top ten picks. Kind
of more projections based on physical tools and potential both
statistically have not looked good. I personally lean Richardson because
of when he does connect, they're big plays, as the
fourteen point four yards for completion would indicate. Plus, you
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know we're calling this a competition, but when the competition
is Daniel Jones, you know you just heard some of
the numbers I laid out a couple minutes ago or
seconds ago.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I feel like he was brought in as like the
perfect air quotes competition for Anthony Richardson because Anthony Richardson
should be.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Able to beat out Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
If he's not able to beat out Daniel Jones, then
Anthony Richardson's career big question marks.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
He's unable to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
So I kind of feel like Richardson their content competition
to kind of give him a kick in the rear
to crank it up a notch and work really hard
this offseason. But I would be stunned if Richardson loses
this competition.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We're talking with Garrett Padell, who covers all things NFL,
but we're diving here into the draft now. In the
second part of this conversation with you from CBS Sports,
We're sticking with the same conversation though we talk quarterbacks
and the Chador Sanders, whether he's going to fall all
of that. Your latest mock draft sees him going number two,
So you've got quarterbacks going one to two in this draft.
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I know it is a down quarterback year. But what
do you like about Chador Sanders and in cam Ward?
Is he just miles ahead as far as that first
overall goes.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I do view cam Ward in a different tier than
Cheddar Sanders, And I would say the biggest thing about
out why I view them kind of in these different
groups is the athleticism and kind of arm strength. If
you watch cam Ward tape and you watch him play,
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his ability when things begin to break down and the
play gets off schedule, his ability to roll left, role right,
make awkward throws where the footwork might be perfect, the
arm angles kind of weird. I think is really special.
And I think when you look at cam Ward's career,
his trajectory of being a zero star recruit, you know,
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going the FCS route, Washington State, Bonn out there, and
then winning the Devut O'Brien Award is the best quarterback
in college football this past year.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
With Miami.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I think there's a lot to like with cam Ward,
and just physically he's of a much kind of stronger,
well built out stature in comparison to Sanders. What I
like about Shadir Sanders is he's incredibly accurate. So stylistically
they are different quarterbacks. But what Sanders does really well,
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he like college football and completion percentage. He is really
good in the pocket and surveying sort of his route
progressions and being decisive with the football when he does
decide to make a throw. And I have had the
chance to talk to him personally face to face the
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Shrine Bowl when it was hosted out at the Dallas
Cowboys facility earlier this offseason, and yeah, he described kind
of his best strength as being that decision making and
ability to kind of make plays from the pocket, and yeah,
the stats would bear that out.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
The one issue kind of where the athleticism that you
talk about where I mentioned with Ward Sanders, he takes
a lot of sacks, like he's been top five and
taking college football each last year. Some of that you
might pin on the Colorado offensive line, but some of
that is, like you watch Ward tape and you watch
Sanders tape Ward. There's a number of players You're like, Oh,
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cam wardis he's done. He's gonna get sacked. This plays
over and he somehow Houdini's it and makes a throw,
and Sanders a lot of times sometimes when he tries that,
it just doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Out as well.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So I think at this stage in the game, yeah,
I've got Ward, Sanders won two.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, there's still plenty of time in the draft process.
Maybe I don't see.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Sanders getting past three if he doesn't go to to
the Giants, because I personally witnessed in the lobby of
the player hotel the Shrine Bowl a conversation going down
between Shuter Sanders, Giants head coach Brian Dable, Giants general
manager Joe Shane, and their assistant GM Brandon Brown.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So either that was the greatest.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Smoke screen of all time or the Giants are infatuated
with shitter Sanders.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The Tennessee Titans hold that first overall pick there in
the AFC South, and they have made a lot of
offensive line move Do you think that at all? It's
kind of them essentially telling everybody that they're drafting a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
That is my interpretation of their offseason one hundred percent
because that offensive line for them kind of like you know,
we mentioned New York Giants failed to build a legitimate
line for Daniel Jones the last couple seasons. You could
say the same for what the Titans did or rather
haven't been able to do with will Levis last year
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or Malik Willis and other years. And yeah, they went
out Dan Moore junior from the Steelers four years, eighty
two million, fifty guaranteed he's going to be left. That
moves their top ten pick from a year ago. JC
Latham out of Alabama, who was an exclusively a right
tackle in terms of his collegiate starts back out to right.
And then they get a Pro Bowl guard and Kevin
Zeitler who's had an awesome career into his thirties. Now
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that you don't see a ton of high level play
from guards in their thirties, but he's doing it. And
so I would definitely say that, And you look at
that off it's an ecosystem they built, the O lines
kind of more solidified. Tony Pollard, even in a weird
year for their quarterbacks, the running back from the Cowboys,
who's a pro bowler. He ran for over a thousand
yards even in a weird year for Tennessee, and Calvin
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Ridley did alright, considering the quarterback upheaval that Tennessee went
through last year, shuffling between you know, Mason Rudolph and
Will Levis. So yeah, I definitely think Tennessee's primed to
take a quarterback and that it would be Cam Ort.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
From CBS Sports as Garrett Podell joining us today, follow
him on Twitter x at Garrett Podell and like I said,
at CBS Sports, all Things Football, let's get let's keep
with the Colts theme here. Boy, you made me your
three point zero mock draft just dropped, And I was
kind of upset with you before we got on the
horn with you because I see that Tyler Warren is
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off the board at thirteen, followed by Colston Loveland. Tight
end is a big, big position that a lot of
Colts fans are talking about with the Shane Stike in offense,
and obviously those two tight ends separating themselves in a
tight and rich draft.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
No, I would agree one thousand percent those are the
cream of the crop, followed by Harold Fannin He's probably
a day two pick.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
But yeah, Colston.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Loveland and Tyler Warren outstanding tight ends.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I mean Tyler Warren. I understand why you were.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Upset because he's the only college football player since twenty
seventeen with at least thirty snaps tight end, lined up
out wide, lined up in the slot, lined up in
the backfield, and even some wildcat quarterback according to CBS
Sports Research.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So he's versatile. He's a Swiss Army knife.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I think in my mock draft three point zero, I
have him going at thirteen to the Dolphins because my
belief is Mike McDaniel's going to look at him and say,
that's my George Kittle because he learned and developed under
Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco, and I could see him
just going to Chris Green or the general manager there
and saying, we have to have this guy. So that's
kind of why I have him at thirteen. Then Loveland
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to the Colts at fourteen. They kind of need that
kind of over the middle, big body target at the
tight end position that I don't think Indianapolis has really
had since Jack Doyle's retirement. So and Loveland he counted
for almost thirty five percent of Michigan's team receiving yards
last year, which was the highest rate among Power Conference
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tight ends in twenty twenty four and great size sixty
six nearly two hundred and fifty pounds, two hundred and
forty eight pounds. That's that's a great prospect in my
opinion for the Colts at.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Fourteen, blocking comes into play. Warren's a big body, Loveland's
a good body. How much separates these two because I'm
gonna go over some stats. Warren one hundred and four
catches last year, twelve hundred and thirty three yards, Loveland
fifty six receptions five to eighty two. What is the
separation for these two in your eyes as far as
success goes in the NFL? And I want to start
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with a stupid question. Can they both block at the
NFL level? I think Warren has proven that.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yes, I think, you know, Loveland is probably more receiver
than blocker, but at that size and blocking being such
an important deal in the NFL, even more so maybe
than their college roles, where a lot of what they
were asked to do it was wide receiver, was you know,
pass catching work. I think get that can be coached
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in the right situation and Shane stik and being somebody
who had an Eagles offense rowing and in the Super.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Bowl in the twenty twenty two season that was.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Very much, you know, focused on the run to set
up the deep pass for Jalen Hurts. And then in
Indianapolis with Jonathan Taylor and some of the solid run
blocking off the line played the Colts have had in
recent years. I think that's definitely something you can coach.
You mentioned the statistics. Obviously, Tyler Warrens stats pass catching
Dwarf Loveland's in a big way, but I think we
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got to put that into context. Michigan had a revolving
dort quarterback and had a guy in Alex Orgi I
think he played most of the year for them. He
was much more of a runner than passer. So I
think when the Loveland evaluation you got to watch kind
of just more of the tape and when he he was,
you know, running out in the pattern to do those things.
But I think Warren, just because of the versatility I mentioned,
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having set a precedent of being able to be a
chess piece and lineup in all these different places, I
think might give him the edge.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But I don't think there's a ton that separates these guys.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Now Garrett switching over to the defensive side of the
ball for the Colts. They lost Diowa Dangbo in the offseason.
As far as an edge rusher goes, They've got laout
two Latsu coming into year or two. They also have
Sans and Ebicom coming off of an achilles injury. But
is there an edge rusher? I don't know necessarily if
at fourteen, but how deep is this class? And there
is there a guy the Colts can kind of target
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in this draft to not be like a plug and
play starter, but a guy and give them substantial minutes
as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah, I would say that when you're looking at kind
of the better positions in this draft, that probably the
like deeper positions you talk running back, tight end, which
we just disc ust, and like interior defensive line I
think is one where there's just gonna be a lot
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of dudes in terms of edge rusher.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Though in that context, I'm I might go with.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
If we're talking day two pick, like round two, round three,
maybe that's a Jack Sawyer from Ohio State or Landon
Jackson from Arkansas, Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
J T.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Tueymolau was really effective at Ohio State when he wasn't
battling injuries. I'd say those three guys would be like
that day two range if that's where the Colts decided
to invest at that position, if they're gonna wait till
day three. Somebody who I've had the chance to see
up close at the Shrine Bowl is Elijah Roberts, and
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that dresher out of SMU. I think his athletic traits
he I think he gets off a line of scrimmage
really well and is very physical and both against.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Around the past. He's probably more of a Day three pick.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
So that's who I'd probably say kind of those three
guys for Day two, and then Elijah Roberts might be
one that I would circle back to for Day three.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And then my final thing with you here on defense, EJ.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Speed.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
He signed with the Houston Texans earlier this week, so
the Colts kind of have a void there. They drafted
Jalen Carlies. He started a handful of games last year
for them, But when you look at fourteen, there's a
handful of linebackers kind.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Of in that mold.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is there a guy there at fourteen that if he
maybe slips and is available for the Colts, they can
just plug in right there at linebacker. That you would say,
kind of jump up that one.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I mean to me, there's one linebacker and if we're
talking first round, yeah, that kind of is head and
shoulders above the rest. And that's Gee Hot Campbell out
of Alabama, right.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
He is awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Twenty twenty four First team All A CC one hundred
and seventeen tackles last year most of the season at Alabama.
Since current Houston Texans head coach Tamika ryans Houer twenty
six as a player for the Crimson Tide back in
three he can he's kind of the epitome of like
modern day inside linebacker six three, two thirty five, the
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days of you know, Ray Lewis, Brian or Lacker, kind
of the hulks in the middle of the field that
were like two fifty two fifty five to six. Those
those days are over just because of how big the
past game is in today's NFL. But I think kind
of the way he's built and the way he moves
and can move latterly sideline to sideline is definitely if
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that's the top inside linebacker picks. If the Colts decider
inside linebackers are big need we're gonna address in.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
This draft at fourteen, it'd be Campbell.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
But I will say it will be interesting to see
how teams value him because he did have labram shoulder surgery.
That's a shoulder surgery for those who aren't medical experts.
And but you know, there's an assumption that he'll recover
and be ready to play as a rookie, which he
should be. I did not have an amazing football career,
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but I did take my labor.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm playing high school football, so.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I can relate to t Hot Campbell in that recovery,
it's probably, you know, a six to eight month recovery.
So I don't know if he'd be Week one ready,
but probably for sure after like the first month this season,
or maybe.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Sooner than that. Well, I don't know exactly when his
surgery was. You know your stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Garrett Podell find him on Twitter x at Garrett Podell,
and of course cbssports dot com has all the latest
he covers. The NFL has got his mock draft that
just dropped earlier. That is three point zero day three.
Guys that that you are definitely looking at that you
haven't mentioned already that are great football players. At any
other year, maybe they'd go drafted higher. Any guys like
that that that kind of screamed their name to you.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
There's an offensive lineman I saw at the Shrine Bowl
by the name of Holland Pierce. He is a physical marvel,
So listen to these combine measurements. Six foot eight, three
hundred and forty one pounds, just a massive human being
offensive tackle out of Rutgers. And just his size and length,
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I mean his arms were thirty six inches according to
combine measurements. That is some insane wingspan. And he's somebody
who is solid as a run blocker. When he drops
bast back in his past sets to pass block, he
just engulfs people because, like I said, six', eight thirty
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six inch, wingspan three over three hundred and forty. Pounds
so he's somebody who is just a, tank you. Know
he's somebody who you know is trying to uh improve
at his body control and balance through, contact because when
you're that, big you, know you might be somebody who
could get tipped. Over but other than, THAT i, mean
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he's probably gonna be A day three.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Guy BUT i love. HIM i love.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Him he's kind of like a late round draft crush
for me BECAUSE i think any team that gets him
is going to eventually find somebody who's a solid, back
could be a starter, potentially and just at that point
in the, Draft day three gamble on the.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
TRAITS i, mean, right are those.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
NUMBERS i, mean that is a goliath among Us, david's you,
know and the people that walk around here on this.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Earth that's, right, man well. Said we're gonna keep our
eye on. That great stuff as. Usual once. Again follow
him On twitter x At Garrett podell and of course
AT cbs Sports. Man appreciate the. TIME i know this
draft is coming up right around the Corner april twenty,
fourth And i'd love to catch up with you after
the draft and see how these teams did in your.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Eyes let's do.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
IT i enjoyed talking to you guys a. Lot let's
definitely do a draft recap and best of luck to
The colts at pick.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Fourteen appreciate That garrettodell right. There awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Stuff
Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the
upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country. It's
time again for our next installment of Inside the Draft
inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studios right here
on the Colts Audio Network. The calendar, it finally says April,
(00:24):
just a couple of weeks away from the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft. This year is going to be held
in Green Bay, the first time they're going to host
the NFL Draft, and they're the ninth NFL city to
host the draft since it turned into a road show
if you will, back in twenty fifteen. Other cities who
have hosted Chicago, Philadelphia, Arlington, Nashville, Cleveland, Las Vegas, Kansas City,
(00:45):
and Detroit. And last May was announced that next year's
NFL Draft twenty twenty six will be held in Pittsburgh.
As it sits now, the Colts will select fourteenth in
the upcoming NFL Draft. Another fun nugget about this draft,
every team currently has their first round picks, but per usual,
trades on Draft night are expected and more than likely
(01:06):
will happen. But right now every team has their first
round selection. Today's guest on Inside the Draft to help
get us caught up on everything as we look forward.
Here in a couple of weeks is Garrett Podell of
CBS Sports and he joined myself, Casey Valier, and Jeffrey Gorman.
You can check out Garrett's work at cbssports dot com
and on Twitter x at Garrett Podell. So here we go.
(01:29):
Here's our conversation with Garrett Podell, part of Inside the Draft.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, fans, time to get smarter, and we're gonna do
that with Garrett Podell from CBS Sports and NFL staff
writer has a recent new mock draft you have up.
We're gonna get into the draft that you have, but
I've got to talk about some current questions regarding the
Colts quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Garrett, let's do it. Thank you so much for having
me on.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Always excited to talk ball, especially with you guys here
with an illustrious NFL team like the in Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, here we go, man, it's all about the quarterback position.
You know this league better than most. Like I said,
we're gonna get into the draft questions. But when we
talk about the Colts offense in particular, the quarterback position.
Everybody knows this. There is a quarterback competition now in Indianapolis,
and it is between Anthony Richardson, the fourth overall pick
a few years back, and Daniel Jones, the sixth overall
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pick a few years back. If you could just give
us your once over on this competition, what you like
about both guys, and what you see for the future
as far as leading this offense.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So first I'll kind of lay out sort of the
overall picture of these two guys individually, and then sort
of my take on the competition in and of itself.
So let's look at Anthony Richardson right oozing with potential physically,
but he's like a nearly historic.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Boom or bust quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
So he was last in the NFL and completion percentage
last year forty seven point seven percent, but first and
yards per completion fourteen point four yards per completion.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Last season.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
He was the first player to rank last and completion
percentage and first in yards per completion since Heath Shuler
with Washington in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So it's been a while since there's.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Been this big of a boom or bust kind of
quarterback like Richardson was this past season, only played him
fifteen of a possible thirty four games.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Don't like that.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
He's somebody who you would think the Colts will do
everything possible to have him be a success, given top
five pick and all of those things.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But he's interesting. And then his competition.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
We said, it's a competition, right, Daniel Jones is his competition,
and you know, the Colts gave him a one year,
fourteen million dollar deal twenty twenty four season for him,
So it marked the fourth time in the last five
years that he'd started each of his.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Team's first ten games and had fewer than ten touchdown passes.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's something all other nflqbs have only done four times
in the last five years, according to CBS Sports Research.
So what he's done in terms of lack of productivity
the last few years is kind of unprecedented. He's also
gone fifty eight consecutive starts without throwing three or more
touchdowns in a game, which is the longest streak in
the last thirty NFL seasons according to CBS Sports Research.
(04:19):
So both of these guys were top ten picks. Kind
of more projections based on physical tools and potential both
statistically have not looked good. I personally lean Richardson because
of when he does connect, they're big plays, as the
fourteen point four yards for completion would indicate. Plus, you
(04:42):
know we're calling this a competition, but when the competition
is Daniel Jones, you know you just heard some of
the numbers I laid out a couple minutes ago or
seconds ago.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I feel like he was brought in as like the
perfect air quotes competition for Anthony Richardson because Anthony Richardson
should be.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Able to beat out Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
If he's not able to beat out Daniel Jones, then
Anthony Richardson's career big question marks.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
He's unable to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
So I kind of feel like Richardson their content competition
to kind of give him a kick in the rear
to crank it up a notch and work really hard
this offseason. But I would be stunned if Richardson loses
this competition.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We're talking with Garrett Padell, who covers all things NFL,
but we're diving here into the draft now. In the
second part of this conversation with you from CBS Sports,
We're sticking with the same conversation though we talk quarterbacks
and the Chador Sanders, whether he's going to fall all
of that. Your latest mock draft sees him going number two,
So you've got quarterbacks going one to two in this draft.
(05:42):
I know it is a down quarterback year. But what
do you like about Chador Sanders and in cam Ward?
Is he just miles ahead as far as that first
overall goes.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I do view cam Ward in a different tier than
Cheddar Sanders, And I would say the biggest thing about
out why I view them kind of in these different
groups is the athleticism and kind of arm strength. If
you watch cam Ward tape and you watch him play,
(06:14):
his ability when things begin to break down and the
play gets off schedule, his ability to roll left, role right,
make awkward throws where the footwork might be perfect, the
arm angles kind of weird. I think is really special.
And I think when you look at cam Ward's career,
his trajectory of being a zero star recruit, you know,
(06:37):
going the FCS route, Washington State, Bonn out there, and
then winning the Devut O'Brien Award is the best quarterback
in college football this past year.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
With Miami.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I think there's a lot to like with cam Ward,
and just physically he's of a much kind of stronger,
well built out stature in comparison to Sanders. What I
like about Shadir Sanders is he's incredibly accurate. So stylistically
they are different quarterbacks. But what Sanders does really well,
(07:09):
he like college football and completion percentage. He is really
good in the pocket and surveying sort of his route
progressions and being decisive with the football when he does
decide to make a throw. And I have had the
chance to talk to him personally face to face the
(07:30):
Shrine Bowl when it was hosted out at the Dallas
Cowboys facility earlier this offseason, and yeah, he described kind
of his best strength as being that decision making and
ability to kind of make plays from the pocket, and yeah,
the stats would bear that out.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
The one issue kind of where the athleticism that you
talk about where I mentioned with Ward Sanders, he takes
a lot of sacks, like he's been top five and
taking college football each last year. Some of that you
might pin on the Colorado offensive line, but some of
that is, like you watch Ward tape and you watch
Sanders tape Ward. There's a number of players You're like, Oh,
(08:10):
cam wardis he's done. He's gonna get sacked. This plays
over and he somehow Houdini's it and makes a throw,
and Sanders a lot of times sometimes when he tries that,
it just doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Out as well.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So I think at this stage in the game, yeah,
I've got Ward, Sanders won two.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, there's still plenty of time in the draft process.
Maybe I don't see.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Sanders getting past three if he doesn't go to to
the Giants, because I personally witnessed in the lobby of
the player hotel the Shrine Bowl a conversation going down
between Shuter Sanders, Giants head coach Brian Dable, Giants general
manager Joe Shane, and their assistant GM Brandon Brown.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So either that was the greatest.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Smoke screen of all time or the Giants are infatuated
with shitter Sanders.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The Tennessee Titans hold that first overall pick there in
the AFC South, and they have made a lot of
offensive line move Do you think that at all? It's
kind of them essentially telling everybody that they're drafting a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
That is my interpretation of their offseason one hundred percent
because that offensive line for them kind of like you know,
we mentioned New York Giants failed to build a legitimate
line for Daniel Jones the last couple seasons. You could
say the same for what the Titans did or rather
haven't been able to do with will Levis last year
(09:28):
or Malik Willis and other years. And yeah, they went
out Dan Moore junior from the Steelers four years, eighty
two million, fifty guaranteed he's going to be left. That
moves their top ten pick from a year ago. JC
Latham out of Alabama, who was an exclusively a right
tackle in terms of his collegiate starts back out to right.
And then they get a Pro Bowl guard and Kevin
Zeitler who's had an awesome career into his thirties. Now
(09:52):
that you don't see a ton of high level play
from guards in their thirties, but he's doing it. And
so I would definitely say that, And you look at
that off it's an ecosystem they built, the O lines
kind of more solidified. Tony Pollard, even in a weird
year for their quarterbacks, the running back from the Cowboys,
who's a pro bowler. He ran for over a thousand
yards even in a weird year for Tennessee, and Calvin
(10:13):
Ridley did alright, considering the quarterback upheaval that Tennessee went
through last year, shuffling between you know, Mason Rudolph and
Will Levis. So yeah, I definitely think Tennessee's primed to
take a quarterback and that it would be Cam Ort.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
From CBS Sports as Garrett Podell joining us today, follow
him on Twitter x at Garrett Podell and like I said,
at CBS Sports, all Things Football, let's get let's keep
with the Colts theme here. Boy, you made me your
three point zero mock draft just dropped, And I was
kind of upset with you before we got on the
horn with you because I see that Tyler Warren is
(10:45):
off the board at thirteen, followed by Colston Loveland. Tight
end is a big, big position that a lot of
Colts fans are talking about with the Shane Stike in offense,
and obviously those two tight ends separating themselves in a
tight and rich draft.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
No, I would agree one thousand percent those are the
cream of the crop, followed by Harold Fannin He's probably
a day two pick.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
But yeah, Colston.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Loveland and Tyler Warren outstanding tight ends.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I mean Tyler Warren. I understand why you were.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Upset because he's the only college football player since twenty
seventeen with at least thirty snaps tight end, lined up
out wide, lined up in the slot, lined up in
the backfield, and even some wildcat quarterback according to CBS
Sports Research.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So he's versatile. He's a Swiss Army knife.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I think in my mock draft three point zero, I
have him going at thirteen to the Dolphins because my
belief is Mike McDaniel's going to look at him and say,
that's my George Kittle because he learned and developed under
Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco, and I could see him
just going to Chris Green or the general manager there
and saying, we have to have this guy. So that's
kind of why I have him at thirteen. Then Loveland
(11:55):
to the Colts at fourteen. They kind of need that
kind of over the middle, big body target at the
tight end position that I don't think Indianapolis has really
had since Jack Doyle's retirement. So and Loveland he counted
for almost thirty five percent of Michigan's team receiving yards
last year, which was the highest rate among Power Conference
(12:16):
tight ends in twenty twenty four and great size sixty
six nearly two hundred and fifty pounds, two hundred and
forty eight pounds. That's that's a great prospect in my
opinion for the Colts at.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Fourteen, blocking comes into play. Warren's a big body, Loveland's
a good body. How much separates these two because I'm
gonna go over some stats. Warren one hundred and four
catches last year, twelve hundred and thirty three yards, Loveland
fifty six receptions five to eighty two. What is the
separation for these two in your eyes as far as
success goes in the NFL? And I want to start
(12:45):
with a stupid question. Can they both block at the
NFL level? I think Warren has proven that.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yes, I think, you know, Loveland is probably more receiver
than blocker, but at that size and blocking being such
an important deal in the NFL, even more so maybe
than their college roles, where a lot of what they
were asked to do it was wide receiver, was you know,
pass catching work. I think get that can be coached
(13:13):
in the right situation and Shane stik and being somebody
who had an Eagles offense rowing and in the Super.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Bowl in the twenty twenty two season that was.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Very much, you know, focused on the run to set
up the deep pass for Jalen Hurts. And then in
Indianapolis with Jonathan Taylor and some of the solid run
blocking off the line played the Colts have had in
recent years. I think that's definitely something you can coach.
You mentioned the statistics. Obviously, Tyler Warrens stats pass catching
Dwarf Loveland's in a big way, but I think we
(13:44):
got to put that into context. Michigan had a revolving
dort quarterback and had a guy in Alex Orgi I
think he played most of the year for them. He
was much more of a runner than passer. So I
think when the Loveland evaluation you got to watch kind
of just more of the tape and when he he was,
you know, running out in the pattern to do those things.
But I think Warren, just because of the versatility I mentioned,
(14:08):
having set a precedent of being able to be a
chess piece and lineup in all these different places, I
think might give him the edge.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But I don't think there's a ton that separates these guys.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Now Garrett switching over to the defensive side of the
ball for the Colts. They lost Diowa Dangbo in the offseason.
As far as an edge rusher goes, They've got laout
two Latsu coming into year or two. They also have
Sans and Ebicom coming off of an achilles injury. But
is there an edge rusher? I don't know necessarily if
at fourteen, but how deep is this class? And there
is there a guy the Colts can kind of target
(14:40):
in this draft to not be like a plug and
play starter, but a guy and give them substantial minutes
as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah, I would say that when you're looking at kind
of the better positions in this draft, that probably the
like deeper positions you talk running back, tight end, which
we just disc ust, and like interior defensive line I
think is one where there's just gonna be a lot
(15:07):
of dudes in terms of edge rusher.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Though in that context, I'm I might go with.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
If we're talking day two pick, like round two, round three,
maybe that's a Jack Sawyer from Ohio State or Landon
Jackson from Arkansas, Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
J T.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Tueymolau was really effective at Ohio State when he wasn't
battling injuries. I'd say those three guys would be like
that day two range if that's where the Colts decided
to invest at that position, if they're gonna wait till
day three. Somebody who I've had the chance to see
up close at the Shrine Bowl is Elijah Roberts, and
(15:49):
that dresher out of SMU. I think his athletic traits
he I think he gets off a line of scrimmage
really well and is very physical and both against.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Around the past. He's probably more of a Day three pick.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
So that's who I'd probably say kind of those three
guys for Day two, and then Elijah Roberts might be
one that I would circle back to for Day three.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And then my final thing with you here on defense, EJ.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Speed.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
He signed with the Houston Texans earlier this week, so
the Colts kind of have a void there. They drafted
Jalen Carlies. He started a handful of games last year
for them, But when you look at fourteen, there's a
handful of linebackers kind.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Of in that mold.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is there a guy there at fourteen that if he
maybe slips and is available for the Colts, they can
just plug in right there at linebacker. That you would say,
kind of jump up that one.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I mean to me, there's one linebacker and if we're
talking first round, yeah, that kind of is head and
shoulders above the rest. And that's Gee Hot Campbell out
of Alabama, right.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
He is awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Twenty twenty four First team All A CC one hundred
and seventeen tackles last year most of the season at Alabama.
Since current Houston Texans head coach Tamika ryans Houer twenty
six as a player for the Crimson Tide back in
three he can he's kind of the epitome of like
modern day inside linebacker six three, two thirty five, the
(17:06):
days of you know, Ray Lewis, Brian or Lacker, kind
of the hulks in the middle of the field that
were like two fifty two fifty five to six. Those
those days are over just because of how big the
past game is in today's NFL. But I think kind
of the way he's built and the way he moves
and can move latterly sideline to sideline is definitely if
(17:28):
that's the top inside linebacker picks. If the Colts decider
inside linebackers are big need we're gonna address in.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
This draft at fourteen, it'd be Campbell.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
But I will say it will be interesting to see
how teams value him because he did have labram shoulder surgery.
That's a shoulder surgery for those who aren't medical experts.
And but you know, there's an assumption that he'll recover
and be ready to play as a rookie, which he
should be. I did not have an amazing football career,
(17:59):
but I did take my labor.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm playing high school football, so.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I can relate to t Hot Campbell in that recovery,
it's probably, you know, a six to eight month recovery.
So I don't know if he'd be Week one ready,
but probably for sure after like the first month this season,
or maybe.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Sooner than that. Well, I don't know exactly when his
surgery was. You know your stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Garrett Podell find him on Twitter x at Garrett Podell,
and of course cbssports dot com has all the latest
he covers. The NFL has got his mock draft that
just dropped earlier. That is three point zero day three.
Guys that that you are definitely looking at that you
haven't mentioned already that are great football players. At any
other year, maybe they'd go drafted higher. Any guys like
that that that kind of screamed their name to you.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
There's an offensive lineman I saw at the Shrine Bowl
by the name of Holland Pierce. He is a physical marvel,
So listen to these combine measurements. Six foot eight, three
hundred and forty one pounds, just a massive human being
offensive tackle out of Rutgers. And just his size and length,
(19:02):
I mean his arms were thirty six inches according to
combine measurements. That is some insane wingspan. And he's somebody
who is solid as a run blocker. When he drops
bast back in his past sets to pass block, he
just engulfs people because, like I said, six', eight thirty
(19:23):
six inch, wingspan three over three hundred and forty. Pounds
so he's somebody who is just a, tank you. Know
he's somebody who you know is trying to uh improve
at his body control and balance through, contact because when
you're that, big you, know you might be somebody who
could get tipped. Over but other than, THAT i, mean
(19:45):
he's probably gonna be A day three.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Guy BUT i love. HIM i love.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Him he's kind of like a late round draft crush
for me BECAUSE i think any team that gets him
is going to eventually find somebody who's a solid, back
could be a starter, potentially and just at that point
in the, Draft day three gamble on the.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
TRAITS i, mean, right are those.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
NUMBERS i, mean that is a goliath among Us, david's you,
know and the people that walk around here on this.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Earth that's, right, man well. Said we're gonna keep our
eye on. That great stuff as. Usual once. Again follow
him On twitter x At Garrett podell and of course
AT cbs Sports. Man appreciate the. TIME i know this
draft is coming up right around the Corner april twenty,
fourth And i'd love to catch up with you after
the draft and see how these teams did in your.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Eyes let's do.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
IT i enjoyed talking to you guys a. Lot let's
definitely do a draft recap and best of luck to
The colts at pick.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Fourteen appreciate That garrettodell right. There awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
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