January 9, 2025 • 48 mins
Jeffrey Gorman, Larra Overton and JJ Stankevitz look ahead to the biggest storylines we'll be following about the Colts in the 2025 offseason, from who the team's next defensive coordinator could be to how Anthony Richardson can improve going into Year 3 in the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Official Colts Podcast. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. Joined
Weekend and Week Out by Miss Lera Overton JJ Stanker.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's both from with the Colts, covering this team.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
In the locker room and on the field.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're gonna get you caught up with the latest this
off season.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
All that kind of hurts to say a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This off season that we're in right now, obviously disappointed
and a lot to go over, and we will over
the course of the next couple months getting ready for
training camp. But a lot to do and a lot
to get to. But I brought the two best minds
in here for a reason. There are storylines that are
around this football team this off season. You know, we
got to start with right at the top. Chris Ballard
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had a scheduled press conference for this past Wednesday and
that has been postponed and we're still waiting for the
new date on that, and we'll dissect what the general
manager had to say in his season ending press conference.
But a lot to go over up until then, and guys,
I want to start off with storyline. Storyline, storyline storylines.
One of the biggest ones this offseason and his Gus Bradley,
who's been here for a minute or two, and he was.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Relieved of his duties.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Not relieved of his duties, but I think that was
a contract that ended running up and and the Colts
decided to go into a different direction. I want to
start there when we talk about off season storylines, Lara.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Let me start with you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Is it a similar scheme this new defensive coordinator that
comes in in your opinion, you've watched what they've done
the last three four years with under Gus Bradley and whatnot.
Does the scheme stay the same with the new DC?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I think that you'll have a you know, new person
come in that will probably instill, you know, his system,
implement exactly, you know, a different look, a different vantage
point you know, with with who he has. And then
I also think that you'll probably have someone who comes
in and has a voice in terms of weighing in
on some additions that he wants to see made from
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a personnel standpoint.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I think the I think Lara's right. If you were
to run it back with kind of the same scheme,
Rush Rush, well, yeah, I mean I think maybe you know,
having someone different pulling the strings does lead to different results.
I don't want to discount that, but you know that
the Colts were what twenty fourth, twenty eighth, and twenty
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eighth in points allowed over the last three years, and
you know, I do wonder ultimately if you do get
someone who is a little bit more aggressive in the
amount of blitzes that you send that is not that
is obviously not as staple of how Gus Bradley plays,
And that's okay. That defense does work for some teams.
It's not. Blitzing is not some like panacea or it's
like you do it and you're going to be successful.
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But maybe a dea dial gets turned up a little bit,
maybe you still see a little bit more in terms
of two high coverages instead of the single high that
Gus Bradley primarily favored. But regardless of who the defensive
coordinator is, the thing that has to get fixed. The
Colts this year tackling missed one hundred and seventy tackles.
That's the fourth most in the NFL according to Pro
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Football Focus. Gus Bradley wasn't out there missing those tackles.
The next defensive coordinator is not going to be out
there making tackles, missing tackles. He's gonna put guys in position,
but that has to be short up. You are not
going to be a successful defense missing that many tackles in,
you know. And the other part of it too is
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it's not just the miss tackles, but then it's the rallying.
That's what Zire Franklin talked about. Guys are gonna make
you miss, but you've got to have the other ten
guys on the field rallying to the ball to bring
that guy down to make sure those mistackles don't lead
to forty yards and gains.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
To your point, JJ, I think something that even before
the new defensive coordinator comes in and you know, breaks
open the playbook and starts, you know, teaching his defense,
I think you've got to start even you know, at
a more ground level where you got to get these.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Guys on the same page.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, there were so many instances of miscommunication, guys not
trusting each other, guys being out of position to allow
explosive plays.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So I think that, you know, I'm not saying that
you have to do like.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
A kumbaya or you know, what are the equivalents like
an off site meeting when you're like a team bond,
do you do like a retreat right like that?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
A retreat down there, you know exactly I'm going to
go to.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Go over there and do it golf course, But yeah,
I do.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I like, really think that this new defensive coordinator needs
to get all of the returning guys together and start
working on just some very like fundamental things and figure
out the dysfunction that we saw in so many situations
in the twenty four season.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Defense is such an eleven is one type of a
thing that if you don't have everyone pulling toward the
same thing, communicating like you mentioned, Lara, and being on
the same page when it comes to coverages and rotations
and stuff like that, it is going to be hard
to be successful year to year. So that I think
you're right. I think that's probably the baseline of what
the new coordinator will do.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And going back to something we heard from DeForest Buckner
on Monday locker clean out day, he talked about, you know,
the need for more competition, you know it where he
felt like that people had been very complainte And I
think that it's going to be a group that is
going to embrace, you know, having a challenge of okay,
you know, probably going to maybe bring some people in,
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whether that's in free agency, you know, make additions, obviously,
make additions in the draft, however they decide to, you know,
kind of reinforce that group. But I think that this
group is going to embrace.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
That challenge of having a new defense.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
It's probably kind of what a lot of these guys
who have been here for a while maybe what they
need to feel like, Okay, this is something that is
going to put us in the position where we're going
to be successful. These are the things that you know,
you need people to be a little bit uncomfortable, I
think going into you know, next season, in order to
remedy the issues that you've met.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I do think defense is one of those things that
can turn around pretty quickly that if you get the
right person in there and you get the right kind
of cohesiveness in that unit, you can wind up. You know,
you have to have talent, and I think the Colts
have talent, but you can go from being a bottom
ten defense to a top ten defense pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But the right I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm confused,
can can the same system, rush for stay in zone
ninety percent of the time, play with your nickel corner.
Can that same system work where you do get results?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You're nine all right, right, Here's where it would have
to work is you would have to get that level
of cohesiveness that Lara was talking about where you don't
have busts, you don't have guys you know, in the
wrong spot leading to explosive plays, and you have to
tackle better. Those are two things that no matter if
you're playing, you got wink Martindale send in the house
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on every player, Gus Bradley dropping back with you know
seven in coverage it whatever it is. You got to
tackle and you got to play assignment assignments sound football.
Those two things. Okay, guys, it's brief.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's The interview list is going to be long for
the defensive coordinator. But a couple of names were men
and early. Just give me your quick shots on lou
excuse me, help me on this one. Lou Anarumo right
from Cincinnati who was let go earlier. And also Steve
Wilkes who's been around for a while and had success.
Your quick thoughts on these guys who are interviewing for
the DC position.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean obviously, I mean look at what Ana Roumo did.
You know, obviously he kind of this last season didn't
have i think the standard to which that they had
previously played. However, I mean, just look at Trey Hendrickson alone,
you know, in this season that he had, I think
collectively as a group, there were obviously some struggles there
that led them to you know, part ways. But I
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also don't think the way that the season ended for
Cincinnati is squarely on his shoulders either. But but yeah,
I think that when you look at I mean, look
at what the Bengals did to the Colts in twenty
twenty three, right, like, we were front and center to
see that defense, you know, go to work against Gardner
Minshew and the offense back then.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So yeah, I'm not having any like specific thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I think these are two guys who I would expect
you're going to get a lot of looks for DC
around the league. Steve Wilkson twenty twenty three. When he
was San Francisco's defensive coordinator, they were they were top
ten in points, top ten in yards, top ten and
takeaways like that. That was a they had a really
good run defense. You know, he seemed to be pulling
the strings pretty good there in San Francisco, went to Carolina,
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did an interim there. He was the interim there in Carolina.
You know, longtime NFL guy. He was defensive backs for
the Bears when they made the Super Bowl, working under
you know, Glovey Smiths, who kind of has that background
which is similar ish to the Matt Eberflus defense. Now
he's added some tweaks, certainly, but he might be maybe
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a little more in terms of the continuity and Rumo
another guy Rushes four, but he he's kind of has
a history of like being really varied in the coverages
that he plays. Yeah, since Cincinnati was top fifteen or
top half of the league in blitzes this year. But
you know, I mean, you gotta have the personnel to
do it too, so you know, he would have to
come in and evaluate to have that here. But I
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think I think those are two guys who you know
that it's been reported there on the Colts list. I
think you're gonna see those guys be on a lot
of teams lists, especially as you start getting into this. Okay,
maybe see you have some new head coaches who are
hired some first timers who want that experienced DC. You know,
those guys could get looks for like Chicago as well. Yeah,
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you know in that vein for sure, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That want to thank everybody who's watching on the YouTube
as well as listening in on the Colts Audio network.
A lot to go over, obviously, with with the offseason
approaching and it is playoff time, we'll touch on that
a little bit. We're not in it this year, but
we're gonna enjoy it this year and be sure to
follow both of these both of these men and women.
And I'm sorry about why was that hard both of
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these wonderful NFL reporters at JJ Stakamit's on Twitter x
at Larra Overton as well. Moving on to storyline number two, folks,
let's switch to the quarterback position and let me go
over some things ar this off season, Okay, this off season?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
How does he get better?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Specifically, when we're talking about throwing the football and upping
that completion percentage.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think it starts with those those like shorten intermediate
throws that we've talked about quite a bit, especially the
ones that are outside the numbers where it's not just
kind of you know, you can zip it over the middle.
Those are where I think you need to see Richardson
make some growth. He's got to get more on the
same page with his receivers there as well, and the
receivers need to get more on the same page with him.
I think it's kind of a collective thing there, but
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that would probably be where I would start. I think
you kind of like you take a step back on
Anthony's game, and he's a really talented deep ball thrower.
We know that he's obviously a very good runner of
the football. Those are things that you can build around
because the way that Anthony I looked this up yesterday,
when teams played light boxes against the Colts, so six
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or fewer defenders in the box, Anthony averaged seven point
eight yards per rushing attempt, which is the second highest
against light boxes in the NFL, behind only Josh Allen.
So essentially, if you're if you're like, we're going to
play back a little bit to try to prevent those
deep shots, he's going to gas you with his legs.
That's a really good thing to start. And if you're
going to play up a little bit, you got press
coverage and no safety help over the top. That ball
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is going to number fourteen down the field. So those
are things you can build around, but you still have
to be efficient down to down with the short stuff,
with your immediate stuff you need to throw on third
and seven, you got to be able to make it.
We've seen him, We saw him do that a couple times,
but not consistently enough. I think. So that's probably the
starting point. If he can up that completion percentage. We
don't need him to be you know, Joe Burrow out
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here completing seventy percent of his passes on those throws.
But you get it up to a point where it
can be a sustainable part of your offense, a workable
part of your offense that I think will raise the
level of everything else that then he can do on
the field for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I'm really curious too, I mean, just how long this
you know we're covering from the back injury is or
you know, the back issue that he's dealing with is
going to linger into his off season.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Said he thought it would be would be one percent
pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Okay, okay, because obviously like a few weeks ago, it was, Oh,
I don't know, I could need surgery at some point.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So that is to me, he intimated he does not
need a surgery.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Great, So getting a little bit of clarity I think
from that standpoint helps immenseally. JJ the point that you
made just getting on the same page with receivers, that's
really where I am is utilizing this time to get
with your pass catchers, get with guys on the rest
of the offense, and make sure that you're taking advantage
of the time that you have aligning with those guys,
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figuring out how you can be better, figuring out, you know,
where they can put themselves in better position to help
you all of those different things. And then two, just
getting clarity on maybe what the expectation is. Something that
I talked with Shane Steichen about this week is accountability
and how significant the peer to peer accountability will be
for this group.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Moving into the off season.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So I think that this entirety of the offense really
needs to have like clear expectations on that of what
we expect from one another. And I think that that's
going to be a significant part of the entire growth
of the offense, you know, especially with having you know,
a young guy like an ad Mitchell, you know, how
are you using the vets who are around you to
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continue to grow and develop. And I think that something
I learned this year from Alec Pearce was just how
much he prides himself on, you know, consistency, and it
took a long time.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
For that to show up, right.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
It took this season to where you really saw that go,
you know, put on display and really well utilized.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So you want to see those.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
You know, the consistent approach, consistent habits for.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Every person you know within that operation.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So I look forward to because Anthony's such a great teammate,
like he is very very team oriented, and I think
that for him to have that, I think he can
be really isolating for the quarterback because so often you're
you do this individualized training and you're off on an
island to some degree, right, you go when you work specifically,
probably with a quarterback coach, and you'll you know, have
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guys come in at various points, but for the most part,
it can be such a lonely period.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
So Anthony obviously go back to Florida and have some time.
He usually goes to Jacksonville, has time with family, does
all of that. But I think that the more time
that he can spend surrounding himself with teammates and continuing
to just grow as a group, like find more. You know,
continuity is going to be a great benefit to everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
There's one other thing, and this isn't something he's necessarily
going to like fix with certain things this offseason, but
it does need to get better. So I just looked
up his numbers when he was under pressure but he
was not hit. Oh, because you take away some of
those plays where he was under pressure and he got
hit and he makes you know, he throws the ball away,
he's able to get it, get it away, he avoids
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a sack. Taking those plays out of it. Anthony Richardson
this year, he was pressured but not hit on eighty
seven dropbacks. He completed twenty four to sixty three passes
on those for one touchdowns with six interceptions, and he'd
a passer rating of twenty three point five. That needs
to get better again, You're not talking about him having
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a passer rating over one hundred when he's under pressure,
but that is that is tough. Like essentially, all you
gotta do is just you get pressure on Anthony and
bad stuff happens for the Colts offense, you know, and
even he's good at evating sacks. That is a plus
of his game. But when he throws the ball in
those situations you got to see, you know, is completing
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thirty eight percent of those passes. That's lowest in the NFL.
That number needs to come up a little bit. Now.
The context here is that his average depth of target
on those plays was fifteen point one yards downfield, which
is the second highest in the NFL. So, like, these
aren't high completion you know, high you know, high completion
percentage passes. But if he can get that maybe that
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number down, that a dot down, the completion percentage up,
that'll just help him be a more sustainable quarterback game
to game. Can that happen in one off season? Yeah?
I mean can I think with more experience, Like yeah,
with he's got he's got the experience now of you know,
he played thirteen games this year. Obviously, you know, he
wished he could have played more. But I'm interested now,
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especially if he is able to go into this offseason
healthier certainly than he was last year. I think we
can say that no matter what, but hopefully as healthy
as he's you know, he can possibly be. I do
think you can see that that growth and that jump,
but it's it's got to happen otherwise. You know, if
you're in for another year like he had this year,
you're probably not in for reaching the goals that you
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want to reach in twenty twenty five as a player
and as a team.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We're going over the storylines of the off season, touching
on a lot of different things, what the Colts are
going to be looking for, hopefully getting you guys in
front of that. I want to stay there though, Guys.
We're going next to free agency, but I'm going to
dovetail the quarterback situation that we just talked about into
free agency. Lara, starting with you, will there be a
veteran quarterback other than Joe Flacco in the camp this year.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
In your eyes?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And will there be an open competition at the quarterback position?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, yeah, I truly have.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I do not know.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think I think that is definitely like that. I
don't think we know that like back in the front
office and the coaching staff. That's something I'm sure they
are going to be talking about and evaluating over the
next couple of weeks and over the next couple of months.
But Anthony Richardson, I'll give him credit, he said he
would welcome that. He said that, you know that if
they bring someone in to compete, I'm an actual competitor,
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I'll go compete. If they don't, I'm still going to
compete at the same level. I thought the answer he
gave when he was asked about that directly hit all
the right notes that you wanted to hear. Okay quarterback
aside really quickly.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I think he showed that early in his rookie season
when he was competing against Gardner. Like it wasn't an
incredibly long period of time, right, but over the course
of training camp, he did feel like that he you know,
thrived with that dynamic. Now it's a little bit different now,
you know, he's the end of his career. But I
do think that you saw the benefit to it at
that point. And also, you know, his openness is willingness,
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you know, to to have that dynamic in the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
On the point about hitting the free agent market harder, though.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I think hold on, let me let me set that. Yeah, yeah,
here's why I'm bringing this up.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Last year we saw what Chris Baller did in the
offseason sign twenty two. Sign brought everybody back outside of it,
Rakwon Davis as well as Joe Flackham.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
There's your free agency.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The reason I'm bringing this up is my question to
you both is do you anticipate a harder push in
free agency again outside the quarterback position, which I know
is key, but as far as like last year bringing
in two, is this year, with the way that this
season went, that he does hit this free agent market
a little bit harder.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I think you you need to look at this roster
with a pretty clear eyed view of it and identify
where are our biggest weaknesses, what positions have the biggest weaknesses,
and where can we use free agency to plug those holes.
I think that that's where we looked at the roster
last year and said, Okay, we can plug these holes
with our own guys, which I still don't think was
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the wrong way to think about it. It didn't pan
out the way that you would have expected and you
would have hoped. But if you need free agency to
elevate your team, that can be that's where you get
into trouble in free agency. And but you use free
agency to plug holes and to say, Okay, we need
to need you know, we need better tight end play.
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Let's go out and try to find a tight end
and free agency to come in. That guy doesn't need
to necessarily be a difference maker, but you plug the hole,
and then you get to the draft and you say, who,
these tight ends are pretty good, go take one of
them the first round, and but then you're not counting
on that guy to be like the immediate solution. So
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I do think that's probably if the Colts are going
to hit the market harder, it's not going to be
I think it's going to look more like it was
in twenty three where the Colts spent money on outside
free agency that year. It spent decent out to get
Samson Ebba come in. That was a good signing. You
obviously got Matt Gay coming in. Cardner Minshew is part
of that class. So they did spend that year. But
if you also look at it, within a year, the
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Colts had drafted Layoutu Latu at defensive end and they
drafted Anthony Richardson that year at quarterbacks. So I think
if you if you use it to plug holes and
then it doesn't cut off any path for like who
you need to draft. That's how. That's probably how if
if it does ratchet up, that's let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'm putting you on the spot, and I'm sorry. You
can talk to me off camera about this. Do you
anticipate more than two moves next year or this upcoming
season in free agency?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I mean, I think after you go eight and nine,
coming off a nine and eight season, you know, coming
off a four to twelve and one season before that,
and then a nine and eight before that, I do
think you probably look at this and say, we probably
need to there might be more holes on this roster
than we might have initially thought.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Lara, i'mutting you on the spot on this free agency thing.
Is he dive in a little bit like he's done
in years past? Or is Chris Ballard hands off on
the free agent market this year?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah? I think you've got to dive in.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I think you've got to explore what opportunities are out there,
and especially with you know, the money that you have.
You know, we've seen the Colts have, you know, quite
a bit of cap to be able to manage and
work with. So I don't exactly know what we're looking at.
You know going into this offseason and where we are,
but uh yeah, I think when you look at the
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finish to the season, if you want to avoid doing
what has happened the last few years, which is not
winning the division, not making the playoffs, all of those things, like,
you're falling short.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So everything needs to be addressed.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
And if you what, the definition of insanity is doing
the same thing over and over and expecting different results, right,
So I do think you have to go about it.
You have to go about something in a different way
in which you have So Okay, you're going a different
direction at defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Okay, that's one move. Okay, what else are you doing
for that?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
And that's why you know, I kind of said earlier,
like if you're going to bring in this new defensive coordinator,
sure he inherits some great pieces in that room and
some great veterans who you expect to be back on
this roster, but you're also going to, you know, have
to equip him with some more pieces to work with
to build upon as well. So I think if there's
a time to do it, it's now because obviously, you know,
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Jim Mersey has reinforced his commitment in Chris and Shane,
and I think that you're in an opportunity where you
feel like you've I would imagine that you feel like
you have to prove why he has the confidence to
do that, right, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And the other thing I would say too, is along
those lines, if the Colts do get more aggressive this offseason,
that doesn't always just have to be free agency. That
can look like a trade like you did to get
to Forrest Buckner. That can look like being more aggressive
in the draft. It can you can take these different
ways to be aggressive with your roster. That isn't just
we're going to go spend eighty million dollars to go
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bring the top free agent, regards who he is or
what position it is.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And let's not forget there's a couple of free agents
in that locker room right now that are waiting to
find out who they're going to play for next year.
Dio Dango, EJ.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Speed, just a couple of it, dire Australian black Men.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean, we're going over a bunch of veterans. There
so a lot to be handled this year by the
general manager Chris Ballard as far as who stays, who's
going who's the new faces, and obviously the draft coming up,
and again we're going to keep you all up to
date on that thing. All you got to do is
follow us on Colts dot Com and of course on
Twitter X and Instagram as well. Now we're talking about
the veteran free agency. As far as the quarterback goes in,
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let's go into something else. The offensive line you mentioned,
Ryan Kelly, how much different Lara's starting with you. This
is a talented group. We've seen Bernie Ryman and what
he's done. He's been quiet and that's a good thing.
He's been very quiet. We haven't had to talk about
that obviously, Quentin Nelson all everything.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Again, what do.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
We do on the right you know, what are we
doing on the right side? Well, FRI's Wyle boy. He's
another guy who's a free agent that's going to be
looking at a big market when it comes in the
rights with Braden Smith, we don't know where we're at
on that. Matt Gunsalve is seemed to be taken over.
And again Ryan Kelly, Tanner Bordalini, that sort of thing.
The rookie this year or last season. Now out of Wisconsin,
what's your thoughts on the old line.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, I'd like to see Mark Golwinski come back. Okay,
that's one thing.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Obviously, he has been with this organization before, you know,
you you brought him in.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
What midway through the season. One of the things I.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Like about Glow is he played for Tony Sperano also
in New York, So you kind of compliment his having
previously been in this building knowing the organization but then
also understanding you know, Tony's operation. And I thought you
saw that group really benefit when you know Glow was
brought in to the mix. Yeah, I mean the wil
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Fry situation, like just seeing him get hurt and the
like the extent of that injury when it happened to
all of that, you know, he was having such a
fantastic year, like it's he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Be a pro bowler. I mean, he was absolutely gonna
be a pro Bowl if not at all proj I mean,
like look if you were if you look at his tape,
like the like Brandon Thorne, who's kind of like the
offensive line guru in terms of like you know, national
media members. He was posting Fry's tape all the time
before he got hurt. Yeah. I mean, and then if
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you're gonna decide all based on like who's got like
good tape in good PFF grades, like Will Fryes is
second in p f F grade on guard he is
having an awesome year.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well, I hope he stays here personally because I like
the young man on the field. He's a great guy,
as you know, well fantastictheart a young man. But I
know it's a business and we got to figure it out.
But boy, oh boy, for a sixth rounder coming out
of Penn State.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Seventh excuse me, seven seventh rounder coming out of Penn rounder. Uh,
that's you know, that's I'd love to keep him around
as well. Absolutely, absolutely, like you know, hopefully you know,
he he seemed to you know, I talked to him
on Monday. He seemed to say, like, you know, his
recovery is progressing. He wants to be is a head
of schedule as he possibly can be. So you know, look,
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if he's able to be out there next year, I
think you'd love to have him with the horseshoe on
his head.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I think it says a whole lot about him.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
When I you know, went to the locker room after
that game in Jacksonville, and I went to Quentin Nelson
and I said, you know, hey, well we'll talk about
the game, but first just acknowledging like Will Fries and
how difficult a situation that was, and like it was
one of the more emotional moments from Quentin Nelson just
raving about Will as a player, as a teammate, how
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much he meant to this O line, how much he
means to this so line.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And I just thought that was very telling when.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You know, you when you have Quenton going to that
level to really just make sure people are aware of
how significant he had been for this offensive line. So
I mean and two, like, uh, we've seen how much
continuity has mattered for that group, right, and when you
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talk about like the that they have played with in
those incredible you know, few seasons that you had when
you had pretty much the same starting five and back
to back years. So I think that that that would
be something that you know, you don't need to overhaul everything, right,
I think look to the pieces that have been effective,
and to me, the guys that you have been able
to build what you have built from the offensive line perspective,
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He's a.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Big part of it.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I like what I saw to Macnzolbaz this year. I
thought he battled. I thought he's physical. You know, he
probably needs to get a little better in terms of
pass protection. I think he would admit that. But like
just from a competitiveness standpoint, like he's got it. He's
got it. And you know, I remember back back when
the Colts drafted him, and it's just sort of like
he he plays with a certain kind of physical mean
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streak that I like. I think it really benefits him
in the run game. He kind of hones in on
the on his past game a little bit. He could
be a really good player in this league. Absolutely, and
I tell you what. We mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
But let's stay here, and it's a touchy subject because
we love the young man, absolutely love Ryan Kelly. But
he is where he is and let's not forget. I
want you guys to comment on this and we'll move on.
He comes back after what a five game layoff with
the knee and this team runs for three hundred and
thirty five yards a franchise record. Is there some connection
there when the veteran center comes back and these guys,
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so what are we doing with Ryan Kelly?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I know what I want to do, and I wish
the big band was here.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I well, I think it is beneficial for a young
quarterback who you know, really needs to have a big
year next year, to have a veteran all pro you know,
Pro Bowl center up front. Like I just think that
that can be an immense benefit for Anthony Richardson to
have a guy like Ryan Kelly up there. Also, Can
(28:45):
we just really quickly while we're talking about Ryan Kelly
JJ your question to Ryan, this would have been now
a week I guess a week and a half. Again, Yeah,
we can we talk about it, just explain for everyone.
Because I went back, I was not in the media
availability back and watched it before the season finale, and
I was going through and doing all my notes and
I laughed out loud at this like banter.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
It was a good bit. I was just like asking
them about Quentin Nelson because I wanted to like write
something on Q. And he started talking about when Q
was a rookie, he was there on the offensive line,
like early in the season, he was trying to make
calls and Ryan was like I told him to, you know,
in more colorful language, like shut up, you know, like
that you don't make the calls I do. So, you know,
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he talks a little bit more about Q and I
was like, okay, natural follow up question, were q'es calls right?
And Ryan just kind of gets his grin and he
goes out, I pleade the fifth on some of the
time they were some of the time they weren't. I
love it, obviously, But to your point about Kelly though,
and I think Lara it's it's a really good one
about a young quarterback, there is a benefit to having
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the veteran center in there. Having said that, you only
have so much cap space, you only have so much
ability to make roster moves. If you're identifying other parts
of your roster that you need to build up, it
does mean you can't you can't do everything. So does
that mean that the Colts do move on from Ryan Kelly?
(30:10):
I think that would be that'd be hard to do.
I don't think anyone in this building would take that lightly.
I mean, he's been here for nine years, He's a
four time Pro bowler. It's really freaking hard to make
one Pro Bowl. Yeah, making four, And look if this
was the last game of Ryan Kelly's career. On Sunday
in Indianapolis. What a career he's had? Yes, like what
(30:32):
a like? If you don't respect what Ryan Kelly has
done as a player and as a person, I don't
know what to tell you. The guy. The guy played
his butt off for this organization through so many quarterback changes,
through a lot of highs and a lot of lows.
He remained consistent in there and then off the field
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in the community. The work that he and Ma Kelly
do is unparalleled. The things that they're that they do
with count the king kicks, and the kind of leading
voices they've been He should regardless of what happens. Ryan
Kelly's had a great career here. Selfishly, i'd love for
it to continue in Indianapolis, but it is a it
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is a business. It's a tough business, and.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You can't always bring everyone back to the tay And
in my opinion, he's one of those guys, a pillar
in the locker room that if there is an issue
we've seen in it this past season, that he's going
to be one of those guys it's gonna sit down
with it and try and smooth this thing out right.
And if he has to be aggressive, he'll be aggressive
and if he has to do kid gloves.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He holds everyone up to the standard.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Saying, Like he is that guy in that locker room
that says, hey, that's Ryan Kelly.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's done it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Poor pro Ball's done it for a decade almost, So
like that, you look.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
At a guy like the Forrest Buffare is on the
D one of those in the.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
D but also different because you got fifty six there too,
who's a leader. But I think seventy eight leads differently
than fifty six, vice versa, and stuff like that. So
that presence is something that I think will be missed,
but more obviously.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Will be revealed. But I do I do think your point,
generally taken about what the Colts do at center is
one of the bigger storylines of this offseason.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Wonderful and a great dovetail into this the NFL Draft
coming up, Colts sitting right now at the fourteenth pick,
and this is where I want to go on this.
I know we got a lot to scour through. We're
gonna we're all gonna watch a lot of tape, we're
gonna read, we're gonna watch mock drafts and everything. But
if you're at that fourteenth pick and you don't move
up or you don't move back to get extra.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Picks like that.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I remember you last year, and obviously our eyes were
on a tight end, certain tight end last year that
went on set an all time NFL rookie record for
receptions in Las Vegas and Rock Powers. I want to
go there, guys. I know it's early, but I want
to go there. Do we think about the fourteenth overall
pick and the importance of that to this offense, to
this defense, to this special teams whatever, and where we
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want to go with that. Larry, you staying in the
same campus last year.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I like that camp. I do.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I've got somebody in mind who I think you know,
you might take a swing out there. I also right now,
just sitting here in January, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I like the idea moving up.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I like the idea of trying to jump up and
get an immediate difference maker.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, that is something that this team if you have
an opportunity to go get him like whoever that is.
And there's still a lot of evaluation that's got to
take place. You got to set your board. But if
you're looking at if a guy's staring you in the face,
and you're like, man, this guy's a good fit for
our culture. He's a good fit for our team. He's
a talented player who's going to be at a difference maker.
(33:31):
Like yeah, and look, Colts tried to move up last Yes,
they did. They tried to move up and it didn't
wind up working out. I thought that right there though,
showed you know, Chris Ballard has kind of had this
reputation he wants to kick back, But that showed Hey,
if he identifies a guy or two who he wants
to go up and get, he will attempt to do
what it takes. That doesn't always mean the other team
(33:53):
wants to move back. Ye, but I like that that attempt.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Was there just for the sake of debate.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I went ahead and jumped into like the way too
early mock drafts here, let's go. I know, so CBS Sports,
uh JJ, you'll love this.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Do you know who they have predicted to go?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
That was thear? Is it the Miszoo tackle.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Some Miszoo wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh burden?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
He's got great potato chips?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Really?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Literally, no one, I'm so deep. I've got I've got
a group chat with my buddies at Miszoo, and one
of his nil deals was like Luther Burden's potato chips,
great wide receiver though really elected.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Big yak guy, big guy.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So yeah, but I just had to throw that out
to you.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I saw one earlier. I don't know who it was,
but the big man, and I do mean big. There's this.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I'm so sorry. I just looked.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I'm scrolling through here and do you know how they
list Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
His position, Colorado Heisman a t h O athlete. That's
like the like the Rivals recruiting right five star from
a Papa Florida.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Like it's like it's like, you know, QB tackle, QB athlete.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, how do you like that?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And you do a nice job in the off season
to getting caught up with the mock drafts around the world.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And oh, I was.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Talking to you know what, I was talking to a
few of our scouts, like they've already been at you know,
some different All star games that are out and about
they're playing for, like Senior Bowl. You've got East West,
but there's some other ones that are out there. So yeah,
these guys have been on the road and they're grinding.
This is a huge, huge time for them and love
when I get to pick their brain about the process.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Six six two sixty, I believe is the young man's vitals.
That tight tight end out of Penn State that's.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Going to be playing Notre Dame Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, they have they you know what where they got him?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I mean this is literally this is just one.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, you know the tight end Michigan. That's a first
rounder that's up there.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Who knows what.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
There's an lt Overton coming out of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Does he play left tackle?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
D line? D line?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Left? Lt Overton plays lt Overton should be playing left tack.
That's like when Auburn had I think it was Auburn
had a defensive lineman whose name was d Liner. I
love this, yeah, yeah, like that nominative determinism.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Right there, you manifested. Yeah, like your parents like this
is what?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Right? And then like the sorry, I'm off on a
total tangentier. The flip side of that is there is
a pitcher who played for the Rays. He played for
the A's. He had the worst baseball name of all time,
great ball four. Oh, I do remember what are you
What are you gonna do out there? I'm gonna I'm
gonna go. Yeah, that's right. That was not nominative determinism,
because he still made it to the majors, his name
(36:35):
being I'm gonna walk you.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Based on this one, Tyler Warren going twenty third to
the l A Rams because LA needs more offensive weapons.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah right, that's money.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Ball four was just thinking about what would be like
a place kicker's name he had, like a starting pitcher.
Ball four, is your last name is not good? If
your kicker, would it be like uh boo left or no? Yeah,
like Jimmy, Jimmy missed.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It someone Daniels. That's good, Like there's a we could
go all the way down like a defensive back. You
probably don't want your last name to be like Burns, Like,
but hey, already Burns remember him Steelers? Yeah, good player.
Yeah already Burns still made it. That's funny. That's funny.
That's another show. But we got that going right now, Okay,
(37:18):
I can get real off the tracks on that. We
can't tell you what a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
More storylines that are gonna be coming at you again.
Colchs dot com will have the latest at Larra Overton
at JJ Stankovitz. Here we go, let's switch into what
I like to call the Saturday League for a minute.
We got Notre Dame in Penn State. Give me your
take on that one?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Really?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
No, No, I mean I know nothing. I mean I
really don't. I saw mostly saw not dream all year.
Was only because they played Indiana. Like, I'm yeah, so
I don't know how about this one?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Who do you like Notre Dame or Penn State? Irish?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
He going on Irish.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
All right, I got because this pot's probably gonna come
out on Friday YouTube And.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I have no thoughts really about either of them.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I will say I have become a big fan of
Marcus Freeman. A dynamic leader, respect the heck out of
like the way he leads all of that, Like I
just very very cool. Like I think that from that standpoint,
like just what I've seen here.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Here's the best compliment I can give Marcus Freeman. He
has made Notre Dame the most likable team in the
college football playoff that's still left Notre Dame. And that's
a team that traditionally everybody, Yes, you feel that way,
I do, I do. I think Notre Name is the
most likable team in the playoff. He starts with Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Really, I feel like Texas is very likable. You don't.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I don't know. Well, maybe it's just because they got
bailed out by that targeting call that should have been
called that wasn't against Arizona State.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Texas is just a cool football team. Like Sarkesian is
just cool to me, you know what I mean, Like he.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Just has Marcus Freeman's cooler.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, I mean, but I'm just saying from like, I
feel like that kind has.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
The stink of being in the SEC on them. And
it's like, we're up here in Indiana and you know,
the Indian under South Carolina in the playoff for the
South Carolina Carolina lost to Illinois. You know whatever. All right,
that's a podcast for another time.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
How do you feel about the OSU Texas game?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Then? Both that game is going to be fun, But
I also think I High State wins that by like
two touchdowns. Touch Ohio State's playing unbelievable right now.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, they are also of rooting interest for Colts fans.
Be on the lookout for Josh Downs's brother.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
He is really good football. Oh my sophomore. Yeah, so
he's not eligible for drafting now. He is exciting, electric
punt returner and one of the best safeties. All right,
let's switch.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Let's switch the knob over to the Sunday League. I'm
not going to ask you over every game none.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I just want My dad and I went through this
the other night. We were breaking them all down, because
we do that every Sunday together.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Me upsets or give me underdogs, Rod, give me road
teams or something.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
So I know they're at home when they're the higher seed.
But I'm guessing I don't. I don't know if Minnesota's
favorite or not. But La is LA's favorite. I believe
so by one, you know, so that's not even an upset.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I still like the Rams. That's okay, he likes Rams
at home. Anything gonna happen this week. Look at that
Texans game they're host.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
In a U.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
I know the Chargers. I think I think the Chargers
are gonna win.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's a that's a tough matchup for Houston because LA
has got a really good offensive line and Houston if
they if they're pass rush, which has been awesome this year,
Like I think they set a franchise record for sacks.
If they can't get home because that Chargers offensive line
is taking care of him, it's gonna be tough slides
for Houston.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I find this one like I think it's really hard
to bet against the Buccaneers, like right, but I find
that one to be a very intriguing game, like that
Commander's Bucks. Like Jayden Daniel's unreal, Like I think he's
just such an easy guy to root for. I mean,
just it's been so fun to watch his season. Also,
(40:58):
like Terry McLaurin Indie guy, I like, you don't love
to see him having so much fun. The job that
Dan Quinn has done. I'm Coach of the Year candidate.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Hasbury's had a real comeback too, Like what he's done there.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, yeah, that to me is I'm just very intrigued
by that one. But like the Bucks are just like
they're a team that knows how to get it done
in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You've got so many of those like great vets.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
I love the Baker Mayfield like element of what he's
brought there, the fact that he has gotten kind of
this like second chapter of his career and been revitalized.
I love everything my husband, I was talking about this
and he was like, yeah, you know, I was never
like a Baker Mayfield fan, but I love Todd Bowles like,
and I was like really interesting. So like we were
going on on kind of about like that group, Like
how do you not like Mike Evans, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Just Mike Evans versus Marshawn Lattimore. Love by the way, oh,
stick that to my veins. I'll tell you what, guys.
By the way, Baker Baker this year I want to
talk about like a hell of a.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Year should have been should have been considered? I mean,
this is a hell of a year for this young
man that was seventy.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
He completed sevent of his passes and averaged almost eight
yards per attempt. You know how hard that is to do.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Has this been one of the we've really gone off
on another team here? Has this been one of the
bigger years in terms of quarterback revitalization so to speak?
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Sam Donald like Baker Mayfield. I know, obviously he's been
in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I think it started last night. I mean Baker and
Gino Smith Smith, Yeah, she knows awesome, got paid. Yeah,
and then Donald comes around.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
But guys, here's I got it before it before I
have to say this. I love what Washington's doing. I do,
new ownership, new head coach, it's new quarterback round and
how quick it is. I get that, but it's tough,
and my point is to have that organization on the upswing.
I know you guys are good and everybody, but you
go on the road with a rookie quarterback against a
Baker Mayfield who's hotter in a pistol, with Mike Evans
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who just did something that you know nobody's done in years,
and breaking Jerry Rice's record for consistency.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Russell Wilson another one in there.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
There's another guy to drop in there that I was like,
I'm missing someone, but yeah, that was what it was.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's my take on that. I just I love I
love watching Washington stuff. But I just think when it
comes to this, you know, crunch time of the year,
you're gonna go on a veteran quarterback who's.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, je Jen Daniels is so good, veteran quarterbacks so good.
But thats been got was strowing touchdowns at Brandon ayuk
Oh because a freshman. Yeah, how about that? That's great?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
So much more to come when this uh through the
playoff weeks. I mean, we're gonna be guessing and picking
who's gonna win, and we'll get you into the divisional
round after this wildcard round in the NFL Draft, which
I can't wait for. The Combines coming up right around
the corner. We're all gonna be down there. And I'm
just laying out the format for you because we got
a great uh.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Six weeks away from the Combine.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Six weeks away from the Combine, check us out on
the Colts Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
You can find the latest videos, latest podcast on the
YouTube channel and Colts dot com as well. Big thanks
to Kevin Connors, the veteran behind the camera today. We
appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
He's athlete.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
He is an athlete right there.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
That's our if you haven't gotten done at.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Kevin Connors is a guy. Guys, we're gonna say goodbye.
I want to end with something if I could.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
A little person, Oh yeah, go ahead, Sorry, No, just.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Gonna send our love to everyone that I know out there.
And I don't have any family out there anymore but
Los Angeles right now. The reason I'm bringing up is
I used to live there for almost twelve years, done
a lot of visiting after I moved from there, and heck,
I've been out there with the front office of this
place for many a time out there, so a lot
of friends and family members that we're keeping our hearts
(44:27):
open for you and watching this stuff and following it.
Thoughts and prayers aren't enough at this point, but other
than just wishing you, guys happiness if you can find
health and some sort of happiness in this thing and
make sure that the family members are okay, we can.
We can buy new pictures and buy new silverware and
stuff like that. But safety is the biggest concern, and
(44:49):
it is truly an apocalypse what it looks like out
there in the area of Los Angeles. So I'm sorry
about that, guys, I know, and I'm going to send.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
For all of the first responders who are out there
right now, all those fire fighters who are on the
front lines, working tirelessly, who are out there, I mean,
all of those crews.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
It's just twenty four to seven. Some of these young
men and women are after doing it. So tip the
hat and keep We're following you and you have all
our support, guys.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Anything while we say goodbye on this.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Just a reminder that it might be the off season
for other people, is not the off season for us.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
We do this all year long, so make sure you
have you know, all of your alerts and updates and
everything like turned on because we'll keep this going throughout
the course of the off season. We'll have plenty of conversation,
you know, moving forward, lots of content, lots of updates,
and you know that kind of starts with the defensive
coordinator search.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
And by the way, this Chris Ballard press conference that
was postponed could be happening soon, could be happening.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Well, it will be happening under the weather.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
So yeah, just a matter of when he gets back
and when he's able to do it. Obviously, we're gonna
bring you that live on colds dot com. You're gonna
have Lara and JJ there as well. They're gonna be
asking questions and finding out what so.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Like, if there are things you guys want to see
here over the course of the next few weeks. Especially
while this is fun, we can go a lot of
different directions. We have a lot of flexibility in the
off season, so be sure to comment on YouTube, send
us messages, send us dms about maybe you know topics
you want us to debate, maybe do a mailbag episode.
Accumulated a few things and get you guys to weigh
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in as well. And like, one of the things I'm
gonna miss is on so many game days hearing from
people like well, JJ, you're walking around down on the
field and we'll hear fans.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Hey, listen to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Thank you know it's so great our guy, Tyler, I
just saw at the game, so really appreciating.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
That's something that I miss.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
So make sure that uh you are filling our inboxes
and our dms with with more messages.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
And Tyler, by the way, thank you. He emailed me,
And I'm gonna bring I'm gonna deliver what you wanted.
Tyler emailed me and he said, I want to see
JJ Stankovitz catch an NFL football with one hand.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Oh, here we go. Are you ready, Tyler? It's coming
right now, almost right there.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Okay, I got stop stop, you got challenged and you
dropped the challenge.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
We'll have the next route challenge for you. I mean
it did hit you in the hands. JJ, Larry, You're right,
that's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Easy Larry Overton, JJ steak Of, it's sometime athlete and
Kevin Connor's behind the camera. We thank you and we
thank you for watching. A lot is coming up. We
know a lot's coming up. We know that you guys
are looking for answers as we are to a certain degree.
But we're gonna give you the latest, and I promise
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know what you're saying, rolling your eyes all you want,
but there is a plan in place and it's gonna
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Speaker 1 (47:44):
Guys, we will talk to you next week.
Welcome to the Official Colts Podcast. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. Joined
Weekend and Week Out by Miss Lera Overton JJ Stanker.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's both from with the Colts, covering this team.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
In the locker room and on the field.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're gonna get you caught up with the latest this
off season.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
All that kind of hurts to say a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This off season that we're in right now, obviously disappointed
and a lot to go over, and we will over
the course of the next couple months getting ready for
training camp. But a lot to do and a lot
to get to. But I brought the two best minds
in here for a reason. There are storylines that are
around this football team this off season. You know, we
got to start with right at the top. Chris Ballard
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had a scheduled press conference for this past Wednesday and
that has been postponed and we're still waiting for the
new date on that, and we'll dissect what the general
manager had to say in his season ending press conference.
But a lot to go over up until then, and guys,
I want to start off with storyline. Storyline, storyline storylines.
One of the biggest ones this offseason and his Gus Bradley,
who's been here for a minute or two, and he was.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Relieved of his duties.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Not relieved of his duties, but I think that was
a contract that ended running up and and the Colts
decided to go into a different direction. I want to
start there when we talk about off season storylines, Lara.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Let me start with you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Is it a similar scheme this new defensive coordinator that
comes in in your opinion, you've watched what they've done
the last three four years with under Gus Bradley and whatnot.
Does the scheme stay the same with the new DC?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I think that you'll have a you know, new person
come in that will probably instill, you know, his system,
implement exactly, you know, a different look, a different vantage
point you know, with with who he has. And then
I also think that you'll probably have someone who comes
in and has a voice in terms of weighing in
on some additions that he wants to see made from
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a personnel standpoint.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I think the I think Lara's right. If you were
to run it back with kind of the same scheme,
Rush Rush, well, yeah, I mean I think maybe you know,
having someone different pulling the strings does lead to different results.
I don't want to discount that, but you know that
the Colts were what twenty fourth, twenty eighth, and twenty
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eighth in points allowed over the last three years, and
you know, I do wonder ultimately if you do get
someone who is a little bit more aggressive in the
amount of blitzes that you send that is not that
is obviously not as staple of how Gus Bradley plays,
And that's okay. That defense does work for some teams.
It's not. Blitzing is not some like panacea or it's
like you do it and you're going to be successful.
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But maybe a dea dial gets turned up a little bit,
maybe you still see a little bit more in terms
of two high coverages instead of the single high that
Gus Bradley primarily favored. But regardless of who the defensive
coordinator is, the thing that has to get fixed. The
Colts this year tackling missed one hundred and seventy tackles.
That's the fourth most in the NFL according to Pro
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Football Focus. Gus Bradley wasn't out there missing those tackles.
The next defensive coordinator is not going to be out
there making tackles, missing tackles. He's gonna put guys in position,
but that has to be short up. You are not
going to be a successful defense missing that many tackles in,
you know. And the other part of it too is
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it's not just the miss tackles, but then it's the rallying.
That's what Zire Franklin talked about. Guys are gonna make
you miss, but you've got to have the other ten
guys on the field rallying to the ball to bring
that guy down to make sure those mistackles don't lead
to forty yards and gains.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
To your point, JJ, I think something that even before
the new defensive coordinator comes in and you know, breaks
open the playbook and starts, you know, teaching his defense,
I think you've got to start even you know, at
a more ground level where you got to get these.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Guys on the same page.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, there were so many instances of miscommunication, guys not
trusting each other, guys being out of position to allow
explosive plays.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So I think that, you know, I'm not saying that
you have to do like.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
A kumbaya or you know, what are the equivalents like
an off site meeting when you're like a team bond,
do you do like a retreat right like that?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
A retreat down there, you know exactly I'm going to
go to.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Go over there and do it golf course, But yeah,
I do.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I like, really think that this new defensive coordinator needs
to get all of the returning guys together and start
working on just some very like fundamental things and figure
out the dysfunction that we saw in so many situations
in the twenty four season.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Defense is such an eleven is one type of a
thing that if you don't have everyone pulling toward the
same thing, communicating like you mentioned, Lara, and being on
the same page when it comes to coverages and rotations
and stuff like that, it is going to be hard
to be successful year to year. So that I think
you're right. I think that's probably the baseline of what
the new coordinator will do.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And going back to something we heard from DeForest Buckner
on Monday locker clean out day, he talked about, you know,
the need for more competition, you know it where he
felt like that people had been very complainte And I
think that it's going to be a group that is
going to embrace, you know, having a challenge of okay,
you know, probably going to maybe bring some people in,
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whether that's in free agency, you know, make additions, obviously,
make additions in the draft, however they decide to, you know,
kind of reinforce that group. But I think that this
group is going to embrace.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
That challenge of having a new defense.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
It's probably kind of what a lot of these guys
who have been here for a while maybe what they
need to feel like, Okay, this is something that is
going to put us in the position where we're going
to be successful. These are the things that you know,
you need people to be a little bit uncomfortable, I
think going into you know, next season, in order to
remedy the issues that you've met.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I do think defense is one of those things that
can turn around pretty quickly that if you get the
right person in there and you get the right kind
of cohesiveness in that unit, you can wind up. You know,
you have to have talent, and I think the Colts
have talent, but you can go from being a bottom
ten defense to a top ten defense pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But the right I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm confused,
can can the same system, rush for stay in zone
ninety percent of the time, play with your nickel corner.
Can that same system work where you do get results?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You're nine all right, right, Here's where it would have
to work is you would have to get that level
of cohesiveness that Lara was talking about where you don't
have busts, you don't have guys you know, in the
wrong spot leading to explosive plays, and you have to
tackle better. Those are two things that no matter if
you're playing, you got wink Martindale send in the house
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on every player, Gus Bradley dropping back with you know
seven in coverage it whatever it is. You got to
tackle and you got to play assignment assignments sound football.
Those two things. Okay, guys, it's brief.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's The interview list is going to be long for
the defensive coordinator. But a couple of names were men
and early. Just give me your quick shots on lou
excuse me, help me on this one. Lou Anarumo right
from Cincinnati who was let go earlier. And also Steve
Wilkes who's been around for a while and had success.
Your quick thoughts on these guys who are interviewing for
the DC position.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean obviously, I mean look at what Ana Roumo did.
You know, obviously he kind of this last season didn't
have i think the standard to which that they had
previously played. However, I mean, just look at Trey Hendrickson alone,
you know, in this season that he had, I think
collectively as a group, there were obviously some struggles there
that led them to you know, part ways. But I
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also don't think the way that the season ended for
Cincinnati is squarely on his shoulders either. But but yeah,
I think that when you look at I mean, look
at what the Bengals did to the Colts in twenty
twenty three, right, like, we were front and center to
see that defense, you know, go to work against Gardner
Minshew and the offense back then.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So yeah, I'm not having any like specific thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I think these are two guys who I would expect
you're going to get a lot of looks for DC
around the league. Steve Wilkson twenty twenty three. When he
was San Francisco's defensive coordinator, they were they were top
ten in points, top ten in yards, top ten and
takeaways like that. That was a they had a really
good run defense. You know, he seemed to be pulling
the strings pretty good there in San Francisco, went to Carolina,
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did an interim there. He was the interim there in Carolina.
You know, longtime NFL guy. He was defensive backs for
the Bears when they made the Super Bowl, working under
you know, Glovey Smiths, who kind of has that background
which is similar ish to the Matt Eberflus defense. Now
he's added some tweaks, certainly, but he might be maybe
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a little more in terms of the continuity and Rumo
another guy Rushes four, but he he's kind of has
a history of like being really varied in the coverages
that he plays. Yeah, since Cincinnati was top fifteen or
top half of the league in blitzes this year. But
you know, I mean, you gotta have the personnel to
do it too, so you know, he would have to
come in and evaluate to have that here. But I
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think I think those are two guys who you know
that it's been reported there on the Colts list. I
think you're gonna see those guys be on a lot
of teams lists, especially as you start getting into this. Okay,
maybe see you have some new head coaches who are
hired some first timers who want that experienced DC. You know,
those guys could get looks for like Chicago as well. Yeah,
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you know in that vein for sure, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That want to thank everybody who's watching on the YouTube
as well as listening in on the Colts Audio network.
A lot to go over, obviously, with with the offseason
approaching and it is playoff time, we'll touch on that
a little bit. We're not in it this year, but
we're gonna enjoy it this year and be sure to
follow both of these both of these men and women.
And I'm sorry about why was that hard both of
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these wonderful NFL reporters at JJ Stakamit's on Twitter x
at Larra Overton as well. Moving on to storyline number two, folks,
let's switch to the quarterback position and let me go
over some things ar this off season, Okay, this off season?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
How does he get better?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Specifically, when we're talking about throwing the football and upping
that completion percentage.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think it starts with those those like shorten intermediate
throws that we've talked about quite a bit, especially the
ones that are outside the numbers where it's not just
kind of you know, you can zip it over the middle.
Those are where I think you need to see Richardson
make some growth. He's got to get more on the
same page with his receivers there as well, and the
receivers need to get more on the same page with him.
I think it's kind of a collective thing there, but
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that would probably be where I would start. I think
you kind of like you take a step back on
Anthony's game, and he's a really talented deep ball thrower.
We know that he's obviously a very good runner of
the football. Those are things that you can build around
because the way that Anthony I looked this up yesterday,
when teams played light boxes against the Colts, so six
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or fewer defenders in the box, Anthony averaged seven point
eight yards per rushing attempt, which is the second highest
against light boxes in the NFL, behind only Josh Allen.
So essentially, if you're if you're like, we're going to
play back a little bit to try to prevent those
deep shots, he's going to gas you with his legs.
That's a really good thing to start. And if you're
going to play up a little bit, you got press
coverage and no safety help over the top. That ball
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is going to number fourteen down the field. So those
are things you can build around, but you still have
to be efficient down to down with the short stuff,
with your immediate stuff you need to throw on third
and seven, you got to be able to make it.
We've seen him, We saw him do that a couple times,
but not consistently enough. I think. So that's probably the
starting point. If he can up that completion percentage. We
don't need him to be you know, Joe Burrow out
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here completing seventy percent of his passes on those throws.
But you get it up to a point where it
can be a sustainable part of your offense, a workable
part of your offense that I think will raise the
level of everything else that then he can do on
the field for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I'm really curious too, I mean, just how long this
you know we're covering from the back injury is or
you know, the back issue that he's dealing with is
going to linger into his off season.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Said he thought it would be would be one percent
pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Okay, okay, because obviously like a few weeks ago, it was, Oh,
I don't know, I could need surgery at some point.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So that is to me, he intimated he does not
need a surgery.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Great, So getting a little bit of clarity I think
from that standpoint helps immenseally. JJ the point that you
made just getting on the same page with receivers, that's
really where I am is utilizing this time to get
with your pass catchers, get with guys on the rest
of the offense, and make sure that you're taking advantage
of the time that you have aligning with those guys,
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figuring out how you can be better, figuring out, you know,
where they can put themselves in better position to help
you all of those different things. And then two, just
getting clarity on maybe what the expectation is. Something that
I talked with Shane Steichen about this week is accountability
and how significant the peer to peer accountability will be
for this group.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Moving into the off season.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So I think that this entirety of the offense really
needs to have like clear expectations on that of what
we expect from one another. And I think that that's
going to be a significant part of the entire growth
of the offense, you know, especially with having you know,
a young guy like an ad Mitchell, you know, how
are you using the vets who are around you to
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continue to grow and develop. And I think that something
I learned this year from Alec Pearce was just how
much he prides himself on, you know, consistency, and it
took a long time.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
For that to show up, right.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
It took this season to where you really saw that go,
you know, put on display and really well utilized.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So you want to see those.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
You know, the consistent approach, consistent habits for.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Every person you know within that operation.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So I look forward to because Anthony's such a great teammate,
like he is very very team oriented, and I think
that for him to have that, I think he can
be really isolating for the quarterback because so often you're
you do this individualized training and you're off on an
island to some degree, right, you go when you work specifically,
probably with a quarterback coach, and you'll you know, have
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guys come in at various points, but for the most part,
it can be such a lonely period.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
So Anthony obviously go back to Florida and have some time.
He usually goes to Jacksonville, has time with family, does
all of that. But I think that the more time
that he can spend surrounding himself with teammates and continuing
to just grow as a group, like find more. You know,
continuity is going to be a great benefit to everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
There's one other thing, and this isn't something he's necessarily
going to like fix with certain things this offseason, but
it does need to get better. So I just looked
up his numbers when he was under pressure but he
was not hit. Oh, because you take away some of
those plays where he was under pressure and he got
hit and he makes you know, he throws the ball away,
he's able to get it, get it away, he avoids
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a sack. Taking those plays out of it. Anthony Richardson
this year, he was pressured but not hit on eighty
seven dropbacks. He completed twenty four to sixty three passes
on those for one touchdowns with six interceptions, and he'd
a passer rating of twenty three point five. That needs
to get better again, You're not talking about him having
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a passer rating over one hundred when he's under pressure,
but that is that is tough. Like essentially, all you
gotta do is just you get pressure on Anthony and
bad stuff happens for the Colts offense, you know, and
even he's good at evating sacks. That is a plus
of his game. But when he throws the ball in
those situations you got to see, you know, is completing
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thirty eight percent of those passes. That's lowest in the NFL.
That number needs to come up a little bit. Now.
The context here is that his average depth of target
on those plays was fifteen point one yards downfield, which
is the second highest in the NFL. So, like, these
aren't high completion you know, high you know, high completion
percentage passes. But if he can get that maybe that
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number down, that a dot down, the completion percentage up,
that'll just help him be a more sustainable quarterback game
to game. Can that happen in one off season? Yeah?
I mean can I think with more experience, Like yeah,
with he's got he's got the experience now of you know,
he played thirteen games this year. Obviously, you know, he
wished he could have played more. But I'm interested now,
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especially if he is able to go into this offseason
healthier certainly than he was last year. I think we
can say that no matter what, but hopefully as healthy
as he's you know, he can possibly be. I do
think you can see that that growth and that jump,
but it's it's got to happen otherwise. You know, if
you're in for another year like he had this year,
you're probably not in for reaching the goals that you
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want to reach in twenty twenty five as a player
and as a team.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We're going over the storylines of the off season, touching
on a lot of different things, what the Colts are
going to be looking for, hopefully getting you guys in
front of that. I want to stay there though, Guys.
We're going next to free agency, but I'm going to
dovetail the quarterback situation that we just talked about into
free agency. Lara, starting with you, will there be a
veteran quarterback other than Joe Flacco in the camp this year.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
In your eyes?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And will there be an open competition at the quarterback position?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, yeah, I truly have.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I do not know.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think I think that is definitely like that. I
don't think we know that like back in the front
office and the coaching staff. That's something I'm sure they
are going to be talking about and evaluating over the
next couple of weeks and over the next couple of months.
But Anthony Richardson, I'll give him credit, he said he
would welcome that. He said that, you know that if
they bring someone in to compete, I'm an actual competitor,
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I'll go compete. If they don't, I'm still going to
compete at the same level. I thought the answer he
gave when he was asked about that directly hit all
the right notes that you wanted to hear. Okay quarterback
aside really quickly.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I think he showed that early in his rookie season
when he was competing against Gardner. Like it wasn't an
incredibly long period of time, right, but over the course
of training camp, he did feel like that he you know,
thrived with that dynamic. Now it's a little bit different now,
you know, he's the end of his career. But I
do think that you saw the benefit to it at
that point. And also, you know, his openness is willingness,
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you know, to to have that dynamic in the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
On the point about hitting the free agent market harder, though.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I think hold on, let me let me set that. Yeah, yeah,
here's why I'm bringing this up.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Last year we saw what Chris Baller did in the
offseason sign twenty two. Sign brought everybody back outside of it,
Rakwon Davis as well as Joe Flackham.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
There's your free agency.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The reason I'm bringing this up is my question to
you both is do you anticipate a harder push in
free agency again outside the quarterback position, which I know
is key, but as far as like last year bringing
in two, is this year, with the way that this
season went, that he does hit this free agent market
a little bit harder.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I think you you need to look at this roster
with a pretty clear eyed view of it and identify
where are our biggest weaknesses, what positions have the biggest weaknesses,
and where can we use free agency to plug those holes.
I think that that's where we looked at the roster
last year and said, Okay, we can plug these holes
with our own guys, which I still don't think was
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the wrong way to think about it. It didn't pan
out the way that you would have expected and you
would have hoped. But if you need free agency to
elevate your team, that can be that's where you get
into trouble in free agency. And but you use free
agency to plug holes and to say, Okay, we need
to need you know, we need better tight end play.
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Let's go out and try to find a tight end
and free agency to come in. That guy doesn't need
to necessarily be a difference maker, but you plug the hole,
and then you get to the draft and you say, who,
these tight ends are pretty good, go take one of
them the first round, and but then you're not counting
on that guy to be like the immediate solution. So
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I do think that's probably if the Colts are going
to hit the market harder, it's not going to be
I think it's going to look more like it was
in twenty three where the Colts spent money on outside
free agency that year. It spent decent out to get
Samson Ebba come in. That was a good signing. You
obviously got Matt Gay coming in. Cardner Minshew is part
of that class. So they did spend that year. But
if you also look at it, within a year, the
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Colts had drafted Layoutu Latu at defensive end and they
drafted Anthony Richardson that year at quarterbacks. So I think
if you if you use it to plug holes and
then it doesn't cut off any path for like who
you need to draft. That's how. That's probably how if
if it does ratchet up, that's let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'm putting you on the spot, and I'm sorry. You
can talk to me off camera about this. Do you
anticipate more than two moves next year or this upcoming
season in free agency?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I mean, I think after you go eight and nine,
coming off a nine and eight season, you know, coming
off a four to twelve and one season before that,
and then a nine and eight before that, I do
think you probably look at this and say, we probably
need to there might be more holes on this roster
than we might have initially thought.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Lara, i'mutting you on the spot on this free agency thing.
Is he dive in a little bit like he's done
in years past? Or is Chris Ballard hands off on
the free agent market this year?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah? I think you've got to dive in.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I think you've got to explore what opportunities are out there,
and especially with you know, the money that you have.
You know, we've seen the Colts have, you know, quite
a bit of cap to be able to manage and
work with. So I don't exactly know what we're looking at.
You know going into this offseason and where we are,
but uh yeah, I think when you look at the
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finish to the season, if you want to avoid doing
what has happened the last few years, which is not
winning the division, not making the playoffs, all of those things, like,
you're falling short.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So everything needs to be addressed.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
And if you what, the definition of insanity is doing
the same thing over and over and expecting different results, right,
So I do think you have to go about it.
You have to go about something in a different way
in which you have So Okay, you're going a different
direction at defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Okay, that's one move. Okay, what else are you doing
for that?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
And that's why you know, I kind of said earlier,
like if you're going to bring in this new defensive coordinator,
sure he inherits some great pieces in that room and
some great veterans who you expect to be back on
this roster, but you're also going to, you know, have
to equip him with some more pieces to work with
to build upon as well. So I think if there's
a time to do it, it's now because obviously, you know,
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Jim Mersey has reinforced his commitment in Chris and Shane,
and I think that you're in an opportunity where you
feel like you've I would imagine that you feel like
you have to prove why he has the confidence to
do that, right, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And the other thing I would say too, is along
those lines, if the Colts do get more aggressive this offseason,
that doesn't always just have to be free agency. That
can look like a trade like you did to get
to Forrest Buckner. That can look like being more aggressive
in the draft. It can you can take these different
ways to be aggressive with your roster. That isn't just
we're going to go spend eighty million dollars to go
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bring the top free agent, regards who he is or
what position it is.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And let's not forget there's a couple of free agents
in that locker room right now that are waiting to
find out who they're going to play for next year.
Dio Dango, EJ.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Speed, just a couple of it, dire Australian black Men.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean, we're going over a bunch of veterans. There
so a lot to be handled this year by the
general manager Chris Ballard as far as who stays, who's
going who's the new faces, and obviously the draft coming up,
and again we're going to keep you all up to
date on that thing. All you got to do is
follow us on Colts dot Com and of course on
Twitter X and Instagram as well. Now we're talking about
the veteran free agency. As far as the quarterback goes in,
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let's go into something else. The offensive line you mentioned,
Ryan Kelly, how much different Lara's starting with you. This
is a talented group. We've seen Bernie Ryman and what
he's done. He's been quiet and that's a good thing.
He's been very quiet. We haven't had to talk about
that obviously, Quentin Nelson all everything.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Again, what do.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
We do on the right you know, what are we
doing on the right side? Well, FRI's Wyle boy. He's
another guy who's a free agent that's going to be
looking at a big market when it comes in the
rights with Braden Smith, we don't know where we're at
on that. Matt Gunsalve is seemed to be taken over.
And again Ryan Kelly, Tanner Bordalini, that sort of thing.
The rookie this year or last season. Now out of Wisconsin,
what's your thoughts on the old line.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, I'd like to see Mark Golwinski come back. Okay,
that's one thing.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Obviously, he has been with this organization before, you know,
you you brought him in.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
What midway through the season. One of the things I.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Like about Glow is he played for Tony Sperano also
in New York, So you kind of compliment his having
previously been in this building knowing the organization but then
also understanding you know, Tony's operation. And I thought you
saw that group really benefit when you know Glow was
brought in to the mix. Yeah, I mean the wil
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Fry situation, like just seeing him get hurt and the
like the extent of that injury when it happened to
all of that, you know, he was having such a
fantastic year, like it's he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Be a pro bowler. I mean, he was absolutely gonna
be a pro Bowl if not at all proj I mean,
like look if you were if you look at his tape,
like the like Brandon Thorne, who's kind of like the
offensive line guru in terms of like you know, national
media members. He was posting Fry's tape all the time
before he got hurt. Yeah. I mean, and then if
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you're gonna decide all based on like who's got like
good tape in good PFF grades, like Will Fryes is
second in p f F grade on guard he is
having an awesome year.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well, I hope he stays here personally because I like
the young man on the field. He's a great guy,
as you know, well fantastictheart a young man. But I
know it's a business and we got to figure it out.
But boy, oh boy, for a sixth rounder coming out
of Penn State.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Seventh excuse me, seven seventh rounder coming out of Penn rounder. Uh,
that's you know, that's I'd love to keep him around
as well. Absolutely, absolutely, like you know, hopefully you know,
he he seemed to you know, I talked to him
on Monday. He seemed to say, like, you know, his
recovery is progressing. He wants to be is a head
of schedule as he possibly can be. So you know, look,
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if he's able to be out there next year, I
think you'd love to have him with the horseshoe on
his head.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I think it says a whole lot about him.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
When I you know, went to the locker room after
that game in Jacksonville, and I went to Quentin Nelson
and I said, you know, hey, well we'll talk about
the game, but first just acknowledging like Will Fries and
how difficult a situation that was, and like it was
one of the more emotional moments from Quentin Nelson just
raving about Will as a player, as a teammate, how
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much he meant to this O line, how much he
means to this so line.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And I just thought that was very telling when.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You know, you when you have Quenton going to that
level to really just make sure people are aware of
how significant he had been for this offensive line. So
I mean and two, like, uh, we've seen how much
continuity has mattered for that group, right, and when you
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talk about like the that they have played with in
those incredible you know, few seasons that you had when
you had pretty much the same starting five and back
to back years. So I think that that that would
be something that you know, you don't need to overhaul everything, right,
I think look to the pieces that have been effective,
and to me, the guys that you have been able
to build what you have built from the offensive line perspective,
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He's a.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Big part of it.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I like what I saw to Macnzolbaz this year. I
thought he battled. I thought he's physical. You know, he
probably needs to get a little better in terms of
pass protection. I think he would admit that. But like
just from a competitiveness standpoint, like he's got it. He's
got it. And you know, I remember back back when
the Colts drafted him, and it's just sort of like
he he plays with a certain kind of physical mean
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streak that I like. I think it really benefits him
in the run game. He kind of hones in on
the on his past game a little bit. He could
be a really good player in this league. Absolutely, and
I tell you what. We mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
But let's stay here, and it's a touchy subject because
we love the young man, absolutely love Ryan Kelly. But
he is where he is and let's not forget. I
want you guys to comment on this and we'll move on.
He comes back after what a five game layoff with
the knee and this team runs for three hundred and
thirty five yards a franchise record. Is there some connection
there when the veteran center comes back and these guys,
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so what are we doing with Ryan Kelly?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I know what I want to do, and I wish
the big band was here.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I well, I think it is beneficial for a young
quarterback who you know, really needs to have a big
year next year, to have a veteran all pro you know,
Pro Bowl center up front. Like I just think that
that can be an immense benefit for Anthony Richardson to
have a guy like Ryan Kelly up there. Also, Can
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we just really quickly while we're talking about Ryan Kelly
JJ your question to Ryan, this would have been now
a week I guess a week and a half. Again, Yeah,
we can we talk about it, just explain for everyone.
Because I went back, I was not in the media
availability back and watched it before the season finale, and
I was going through and doing all my notes and
I laughed out loud at this like banter.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
It was a good bit. I was just like asking
them about Quentin Nelson because I wanted to like write
something on Q. And he started talking about when Q
was a rookie, he was there on the offensive line,
like early in the season, he was trying to make
calls and Ryan was like I told him to, you know,
in more colorful language, like shut up, you know, like
that you don't make the calls I do. So, you know,
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he talks a little bit more about Q and I
was like, okay, natural follow up question, were q'es calls right?
And Ryan just kind of gets his grin and he
goes out, I pleade the fifth on some of the
time they were some of the time they weren't. I
love it, obviously, But to your point about Kelly though,
and I think Lara it's it's a really good one
about a young quarterback, there is a benefit to having
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the veteran center in there. Having said that, you only
have so much cap space, you only have so much
ability to make roster moves. If you're identifying other parts
of your roster that you need to build up, it
does mean you can't you can't do everything. So does
that mean that the Colts do move on from Ryan Kelly?
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I think that would be that'd be hard to do.
I don't think anyone in this building would take that lightly.
I mean, he's been here for nine years, He's a
four time Pro bowler. It's really freaking hard to make
one Pro Bowl. Yeah, making four, And look if this
was the last game of Ryan Kelly's career. On Sunday
in Indianapolis. What a career he's had? Yes, like what
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a like? If you don't respect what Ryan Kelly has
done as a player and as a person, I don't
know what to tell you. The guy. The guy played
his butt off for this organization through so many quarterback changes,
through a lot of highs and a lot of lows.
He remained consistent in there and then off the field
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in the community. The work that he and Ma Kelly
do is unparalleled. The things that they're that they do
with count the king kicks, and the kind of leading
voices they've been He should regardless of what happens. Ryan
Kelly's had a great career here. Selfishly, i'd love for
it to continue in Indianapolis, but it is a it
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is a business. It's a tough business, and.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You can't always bring everyone back to the tay And
in my opinion, he's one of those guys, a pillar
in the locker room that if there is an issue
we've seen in it this past season, that he's going
to be one of those guys it's gonna sit down
with it and try and smooth this thing out right.
And if he has to be aggressive, he'll be aggressive
and if he has to do kid gloves.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He holds everyone up to the standard.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Saying, Like he is that guy in that locker room
that says, hey, that's Ryan Kelly.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's done it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Poor pro Ball's done it for a decade almost, So
like that, you look.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
At a guy like the Forrest Buffare is on the
D one of those in the.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
D but also different because you got fifty six there too,
who's a leader. But I think seventy eight leads differently
than fifty six, vice versa, and stuff like that. So
that presence is something that I think will be missed,
but more obviously.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Will be revealed. But I do I do think your point,
generally taken about what the Colts do at center is
one of the bigger storylines of this offseason.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Wonderful and a great dovetail into this the NFL Draft
coming up, Colts sitting right now at the fourteenth pick,
and this is where I want to go on this.
I know we got a lot to scour through. We're
gonna we're all gonna watch a lot of tape, we're
gonna read, we're gonna watch mock drafts and everything. But
if you're at that fourteenth pick and you don't move
up or you don't move back to get extra.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Picks like that.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I remember you last year, and obviously our eyes were
on a tight end, certain tight end last year that
went on set an all time NFL rookie record for
receptions in Las Vegas and Rock Powers. I want to
go there, guys. I know it's early, but I want
to go there. Do we think about the fourteenth overall
pick and the importance of that to this offense, to
this defense, to this special teams whatever, and where we
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want to go with that. Larry, you staying in the
same campus last year.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I like that camp. I do.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I've got somebody in mind who I think you know,
you might take a swing out there. I also right now,
just sitting here in January, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I like the idea moving up.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I like the idea of trying to jump up and
get an immediate difference maker.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, that is something that this team if you have
an opportunity to go get him like whoever that is.
And there's still a lot of evaluation that's got to
take place. You got to set your board. But if
you're looking at if a guy's staring you in the face,
and you're like, man, this guy's a good fit for
our culture. He's a good fit for our team. He's
a talented player who's going to be at a difference maker.
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Like yeah, and look, Colts tried to move up last Yes,
they did. They tried to move up and it didn't
wind up working out. I thought that right there though,
showed you know, Chris Ballard has kind of had this
reputation he wants to kick back, But that showed Hey,
if he identifies a guy or two who he wants
to go up and get, he will attempt to do
what it takes. That doesn't always mean the other team
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wants to move back. Ye, but I like that that attempt.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Was there just for the sake of debate.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I went ahead and jumped into like the way too
early mock drafts here, let's go. I know, so CBS Sports,
uh JJ, you'll love this.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Do you know who they have predicted to go?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
That was thear? Is it the Miszoo tackle.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Some Miszoo wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh burden?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
He's got great potato chips?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Really?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Literally, no one, I'm so deep. I've got I've got
a group chat with my buddies at Miszoo, and one
of his nil deals was like Luther Burden's potato chips,
great wide receiver though really elected.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Big yak guy, big guy.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So yeah, but I just had to throw that out
to you.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I saw one earlier. I don't know who it was,
but the big man, and I do mean big. There's this.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I'm so sorry. I just looked.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I'm scrolling through here and do you know how they
list Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
His position, Colorado Heisman a t h O athlete. That's
like the like the Rivals recruiting right five star from
a Papa Florida.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Like it's like it's like, you know, QB tackle, QB athlete.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, how do you like that?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And you do a nice job in the off season
to getting caught up with the mock drafts around the world.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And oh, I was.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Talking to you know what, I was talking to a
few of our scouts, like they've already been at you know,
some different All star games that are out and about
they're playing for, like Senior Bowl. You've got East West,
but there's some other ones that are out there. So yeah,
these guys have been on the road and they're grinding.
This is a huge, huge time for them and love
when I get to pick their brain about the process.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Six six two sixty, I believe is the young man's vitals.
That tight tight end out of Penn State that's.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Going to be playing Notre Dame Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, they have they you know what where they got him?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I mean this is literally this is just one.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, you know the tight end Michigan. That's a first
rounder that's up there.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Who knows what.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
There's an lt Overton coming out of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Does he play left tackle?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
D line? D line?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Left? Lt Overton plays lt Overton should be playing left tack.
That's like when Auburn had I think it was Auburn
had a defensive lineman whose name was d Liner. I
love this, yeah, yeah, like that nominative determinism.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Right there, you manifested. Yeah, like your parents like this
is what?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Right? And then like the sorry, I'm off on a
total tangentier. The flip side of that is there is
a pitcher who played for the Rays. He played for
the A's. He had the worst baseball name of all time,
great ball four. Oh, I do remember what are you
What are you gonna do out there? I'm gonna I'm
gonna go. Yeah, that's right. That was not nominative determinism,
because he still made it to the majors, his name
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being I'm gonna walk you.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Based on this one, Tyler Warren going twenty third to
the l A Rams because LA needs more offensive weapons.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah right, that's money.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Ball four was just thinking about what would be like
a place kicker's name he had, like a starting pitcher.
Ball four, is your last name is not good? If
your kicker, would it be like uh boo left or no? Yeah,
like Jimmy, Jimmy missed.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It someone Daniels. That's good, Like there's a we could
go all the way down like a defensive back. You
probably don't want your last name to be like Burns, Like,
but hey, already Burns remember him Steelers? Yeah, good player.
Yeah already Burns still made it. That's funny. That's funny.
That's another show. But we got that going right now, Okay,
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I can get real off the tracks on that. We
can't tell you what a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
More storylines that are gonna be coming at you again.
Colchs dot com will have the latest at Larra Overton
at JJ Stankovitz. Here we go, let's switch into what
I like to call the Saturday League for a minute.
We got Notre Dame in Penn State. Give me your
take on that one?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Really?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
No, No, I mean I know nothing. I mean I
really don't. I saw mostly saw not dream all year.
Was only because they played Indiana. Like, I'm yeah, so
I don't know how about this one?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Who do you like Notre Dame or Penn State? Irish?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
He going on Irish.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
All right, I got because this pot's probably gonna come
out on Friday YouTube And.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I have no thoughts really about either of them.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I will say I have become a big fan of
Marcus Freeman. A dynamic leader, respect the heck out of
like the way he leads all of that, Like I
just very very cool. Like I think that from that standpoint,
like just what I've seen here.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Here's the best compliment I can give Marcus Freeman. He
has made Notre Dame the most likable team in the
college football playoff that's still left Notre Dame. And that's
a team that traditionally everybody, Yes, you feel that way,
I do, I do. I think Notre Name is the
most likable team in the playoff. He starts with Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Really, I feel like Texas is very likable. You don't.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I don't know. Well, maybe it's just because they got
bailed out by that targeting call that should have been
called that wasn't against Arizona State.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Texas is just a cool football team. Like Sarkesian is
just cool to me, you know what I mean, Like he.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Just has Marcus Freeman's cooler.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, I mean, but I'm just saying from like, I
feel like that kind has.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
The stink of being in the SEC on them. And
it's like, we're up here in Indiana and you know,
the Indian under South Carolina in the playoff for the
South Carolina Carolina lost to Illinois. You know whatever. All right,
that's a podcast for another time.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
How do you feel about the OSU Texas game?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Then? Both that game is going to be fun, But
I also think I High State wins that by like
two touchdowns. Touch Ohio State's playing unbelievable right now.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, they are also of rooting interest for Colts fans.
Be on the lookout for Josh Downs's brother.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
He is really good football. Oh my sophomore. Yeah, so
he's not eligible for drafting now. He is exciting, electric
punt returner and one of the best safeties. All right,
let's switch.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Let's switch the knob over to the Sunday League. I'm
not going to ask you over every game none.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I just want My dad and I went through this
the other night. We were breaking them all down, because
we do that every Sunday together.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Me upsets or give me underdogs, Rod, give me road
teams or something.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
So I know they're at home when they're the higher seed.
But I'm guessing I don't. I don't know if Minnesota's
favorite or not. But La is LA's favorite. I believe
so by one, you know, so that's not even an upset.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I still like the Rams. That's okay, he likes Rams
at home. Anything gonna happen this week. Look at that
Texans game they're host.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
In a U.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
I know the Chargers. I think I think the Chargers
are gonna win.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's a that's a tough matchup for Houston because LA
has got a really good offensive line and Houston if
they if they're pass rush, which has been awesome this year,
Like I think they set a franchise record for sacks.
If they can't get home because that Chargers offensive line
is taking care of him, it's gonna be tough slides
for Houston.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I find this one like I think it's really hard
to bet against the Buccaneers, like right, but I find
that one to be a very intriguing game, like that
Commander's Bucks. Like Jayden Daniel's unreal, Like I think he's
just such an easy guy to root for. I mean,
just it's been so fun to watch his season. Also,
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like Terry McLaurin Indie guy, I like, you don't love
to see him having so much fun. The job that
Dan Quinn has done. I'm Coach of the Year candidate.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Hasbury's had a real comeback too, Like what he's done there.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, yeah, that to me is I'm just very intrigued
by that one. But like the Bucks are just like
they're a team that knows how to get it done
in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You've got so many of those like great vets.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
I love the Baker Mayfield like element of what he's
brought there, the fact that he has gotten kind of
this like second chapter of his career and been revitalized.
I love everything my husband, I was talking about this
and he was like, yeah, you know, I was never
like a Baker Mayfield fan, but I love Todd Bowles like,
and I was like really interesting. So like we were
going on on kind of about like that group, Like
how do you not like Mike Evans, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Just Mike Evans versus Marshawn Lattimore. Love by the way, oh,
stick that to my veins. I'll tell you what, guys.
By the way, Baker Baker this year I want to
talk about like a hell of a.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Year should have been should have been considered? I mean,
this is a hell of a year for this young
man that was seventy.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
He completed sevent of his passes and averaged almost eight
yards per attempt. You know how hard that is to do.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Has this been one of the we've really gone off
on another team here? Has this been one of the
bigger years in terms of quarterback revitalization so to speak?
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Sam Donald like Baker Mayfield. I know, obviously he's been
in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I think it started last night. I mean Baker and
Gino Smith Smith, Yeah, she knows awesome, got paid. Yeah,
and then Donald comes around.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
But guys, here's I got it before it before I
have to say this. I love what Washington's doing. I do,
new ownership, new head coach, it's new quarterback round and
how quick it is. I get that, but it's tough,
and my point is to have that organization on the upswing.
I know you guys are good and everybody, but you
go on the road with a rookie quarterback against a
Baker Mayfield who's hotter in a pistol, with Mike Evans
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who just did something that you know nobody's done in years,
and breaking Jerry Rice's record for consistency.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Russell Wilson another one in there.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
There's another guy to drop in there that I was like,
I'm missing someone, but yeah, that was what it was.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's my take on that. I just I love I
love watching Washington stuff. But I just think when it
comes to this, you know, crunch time of the year,
you're gonna go on a veteran quarterback who's.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, je Jen Daniels is so good, veteran quarterbacks so good.
But thats been got was strowing touchdowns at Brandon ayuk
Oh because a freshman. Yeah, how about that? That's great?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
So much more to come when this uh through the
playoff weeks. I mean, we're gonna be guessing and picking
who's gonna win, and we'll get you into the divisional
round after this wildcard round in the NFL Draft, which
I can't wait for. The Combines coming up right around
the corner. We're all gonna be down there. And I'm
just laying out the format for you because we got
a great uh.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Six weeks away from the Combine.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Six weeks away from the Combine, check us out on
the Colts Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
You can find the latest videos, latest podcast on the
YouTube channel and Colts dot com as well. Big thanks
to Kevin Connors, the veteran behind the camera today. We
appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
He's athlete.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
He is an athlete right there.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
That's our if you haven't gotten done at.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Kevin Connors is a guy. Guys, we're gonna say goodbye.
I want to end with something if I could.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
A little person, Oh yeah, go ahead, Sorry, No, just.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Gonna send our love to everyone that I know out there.
And I don't have any family out there anymore but
Los Angeles right now. The reason I'm bringing up is
I used to live there for almost twelve years, done
a lot of visiting after I moved from there, and heck,
I've been out there with the front office of this
place for many a time out there, so a lot
of friends and family members that we're keeping our hearts
(44:27):
open for you and watching this stuff and following it.
Thoughts and prayers aren't enough at this point, but other
than just wishing you, guys happiness if you can find
health and some sort of happiness in this thing and
make sure that the family members are okay, we can.
We can buy new pictures and buy new silverware and
stuff like that. But safety is the biggest concern, and
(44:49):
it is truly an apocalypse what it looks like out
there in the area of Los Angeles. So I'm sorry
about that, guys, I know, and I'm going to send.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
For all of the first responders who are out there
right now, all those fire fighters who are on the
front lines, working tirelessly, who are out there, I mean,
all of those crews.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
It's just twenty four to seven. Some of these young
men and women are after doing it. So tip the
hat and keep We're following you and you have all
our support, guys.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Anything while we say goodbye on this.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Just a reminder that it might be the off season
for other people, is not the off season for us.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
We do this all year long, so make sure you
have you know, all of your alerts and updates and
everything like turned on because we'll keep this going throughout
the course of the off season. We'll have plenty of conversation,
you know, moving forward, lots of content, lots of updates,
and you know that kind of starts with the defensive
coordinator search.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
And by the way, this Chris Ballard press conference that
was postponed could be happening soon, could be happening.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Well, it will be happening under the weather.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
So yeah, just a matter of when he gets back
and when he's able to do it. Obviously, we're gonna
bring you that live on colds dot com. You're gonna
have Lara and JJ there as well. They're gonna be
asking questions and finding out what so.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Like, if there are things you guys want to see
here over the course of the next few weeks. Especially
while this is fun, we can go a lot of
different directions. We have a lot of flexibility in the
off season, so be sure to comment on YouTube, send
us messages, send us dms about maybe you know topics
you want us to debate, maybe do a mailbag episode.
Accumulated a few things and get you guys to weigh
(46:16):
in as well. And like, one of the things I'm
gonna miss is on so many game days hearing from
people like well, JJ, you're walking around down on the
field and we'll hear fans.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Hey, listen to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Thank you know it's so great our guy, Tyler, I
just saw at the game, so really appreciating.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
That's something that I miss.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
So make sure that uh you are filling our inboxes
and our dms with with more messages.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
And Tyler, by the way, thank you. He emailed me,
And I'm gonna bring I'm gonna deliver what you wanted.
Tyler emailed me and he said, I want to see
JJ Stankovitz catch an NFL football with one hand.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Oh, here we go. Are you ready, Tyler? It's coming
right now, almost right there.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Okay, I got stop stop, you got challenged and you
dropped the challenge.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
We'll have the next route challenge for you. I mean
it did hit you in the hands. JJ, Larry, You're right,
that's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Easy Larry Overton, JJ steak Of, it's sometime athlete and
Kevin Connor's behind the camera. We thank you and we
thank you for watching. A lot is coming up. We
know a lot's coming up. We know that you guys
are looking for answers as we are to a certain degree.
But we're gonna give you the latest, and I promise
you this thing's gonna be humming in the right direction
in twenty twenty five when the season kicks off. I
(47:32):
know what you're saying, rolling your eyes all you want,
but there is a plan in place and it's gonna
be a good one. A lot of talent in that
locker room, and of course a lot of talent here
on set with these two at JJ stank Of, It's
on Twitter X at Lara Overton, I'm Jeffrey Gorman.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Guys, we will talk to you next week.
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