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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome into the Official Colts Podcast, joined by JJ Sankovitz
and Lara Overton. As usual, a lot to go over
we got from the NFL network. Jamie Erdal will be
a guest on the show today. Lara. I know you're
gonna catch up with Thera and some things special going
on in the state of Minnesota this weekend, not just
a Colts game. But guys, I want to open it
up right there a disappointing loss. I know you guys
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are both down in Houston watching this thing unfold where
it is, and you know a couple of days with
the Monday morning quarterbacks that are analyzing what had happened everything.
All eyes right now are on Anthony Richardson after hearing
Shane Stiken's press conference yesterday, evaluating everything from soup to
nuts on this roster and at each position. It seemed
like he was saying, JJ, I'll start with you on this.
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Where are we at with this as far as ar
and looking getting ready for the Minnesota Vikings as far
as Wednesday practice goes.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So what Shane Stiken told us yesterday is again like
you said, Jeffrey, the Colts, he and the cults are
evaluating everything. It's not just quarterback, it's everything. It's personnel,
it's scheme, just all of that stuff is now kind
of under a microscope. You're at the halfway point of
the season, You're four and four. You have an opportunity
to still make a push for the playoffs. The division
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is going to be tough. It is going to be
tough to win the division. You have to essentially be
three games better than Houston down the stretch to win
the division. They are only nine games left that I'm
not saying it's over, but you're probably thinking about how
do we make the wild card? Right now? That's probably
what you're thinking based on this loss to Houston. So
you're starting to think, Okay, well, what is our best
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shot at making a run? We've got a team that
is like when I asked Shane yesterday, what have you
kind of learned about this team and what's your message?
He talked a lot about the resiliency of this team
and how everything's in front of this team. But I
think that comes with a recognition and an acknowledgment that
what the Cults are doing right now, especially on offense,
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is probably not sustainable to make a run. So that
doesn't necessarily mean Anthony Richardson is going to get benched.
That doesn't necessarily mean that. What it means is that
you are going to try to figure out what is
the best way to coach this offense, what is the
best way to deploy your personnel on this offense? And
Anthony Richardson is a part of that. It's notable because
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we haven't heard that before from Shane Steichen. It's been
he's our guy when he's healthy, He's our guy when
he's healthy. This is notable, but I think it comes
within the whole scope of this offense.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Hey, Lara, I want to go to you on this.
Does anything as far as JJ's spot on with this
stuff and the evaluation that's going to happen this week?
We did see the tap out for a play from
my Anthony Richardson. Does that play into possibly what's happening
at the quarterback position?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I think everything. I think you have to look bigger picture.
You can never isolate it to one singular event. It's
always greater than that. And at this point, this team
is going to go as far as the leaders take it.
And the reason I say that is because I look
back to the comments from Ryan Kelly yesterday, the longest
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tenured cold he has core to this offense, and he's
going to have to be one of the people to
bring Anthony Richardson up to what he called the standard.
And Ryan was very upfront and very candid about he
did have a conversation with Anthony about you know, that
chain of events in particular. They did isolate that, but
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just that's not up to the standard and what the
expectation is. But I thought that he did a great
job of saying, like, yes, I addressed it with him.
We talked about it. But then he also had Anthony's
back in saying, I'm going to kind of find it
here in the transcription. But if anyone ever questions how
hard he plays, I don't think that's the case. If
you watch the film. Surely we didn't move the ball
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effectively at times, but he's giving everything for his teammates.
He's young. This is a learning moment for him. I'll
leave it at that. I thought it was perfectly handled,
and that is why whatever happens, it is all going
to be because of how the help their entire locker
room responds. But that's going to be set by the captains,
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the most veteran people in that room. I mean, let's
look at the fact there's a reason that Anthony Richardson
was voted a captain by his teammates, right like, he
does have the respect of this locker room. This is
one thing obviously that didn't transpire as they would have
liked it too. Write this is, but still plenty of
opportunity to respond, and you've got the rest of the
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right guys in this locker room to help position Anthony
to respond accordingly from what happened last week, whatever happens
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think I think Ryan Kelly's point in there, you know,
I thought about it a lot about how if anyone's
questioning how Hardy's playing, that's not it. No, if you're
questioning how hard Anthony Richardson is playing, that's the wrong
thing to look at. This is a guy who helped
shove Tray. He was the first guy into that pile
against the Bear, shoving Tray Sermon into the end zone.
He before he got hurt against Pittsburgh, he was like
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chipping TJ. Watt on a play. This guy's going to
give it his all, I mean out on the field.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Prior to on that play he shed a three hundred
and twenty pounds d lineman off of his back, you know,
before he got taken down. Hit a couple of tough
runs in there. I mean, yeah, there is there is
toughness there. It's just that one People are spotlighting one
decision in all, and that was.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
A decision that you know, like Ryan Kelly said, he's
getting criticism for it, and deservedly so. But that's not
That doesn't mean he's soft. That doesn't mean he's mentally weak.
That doesn't mean either of those two things. So don't
conflate it with that. He's a really tough quarterback who
is doing some things out there that are are are
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the kind of things like I mean, after that Bears game.
You know, he didn't play well in that game, right,
but I remember talking, like hearing from Quentin Nelson after
that game, who was genuinely excited to talk about Anthony
Richardson going into that pile and being like, that's the
kind of player we need on this football team. Let's
not conflate these two things with Richard and you know,
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to make anything bigger out of it than one decision
that you know, if we hear from Anthony on Wednesday,
maybe we'll hear that he wanted to have that one.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Back and two things to piggyback onto that JJ. I
remember there's a quote that I have from Zire Franklin,
like this was something that we were talking about when
looking at Anthony and the ability that he has to
run the way he is willing to try to take
down guys. This was, you know, I believe it was
actually maybe the Texans game, Texas game, maybe Pitts, I
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don't remember what it was, but it was a particular
situation run toward the goal line, taking guys out of mounds,
like with him, whatever it was. And the quote from
Zire Franklin was I can go to war with that
any day Like that was. And this is Zire Franklin
who's saying that about his quarterback. Then what I was
also going to say to that JJ, and I totally
just lost my train of thought of where I was
going because I had to struggle to be there. Yeah, been,
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there's so much.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Shoot, it's gonna come back to here's what Here's what
I kind of view this. You know, Shane's commentary of
we're evaluating everything Richardson was ten to thirty two. Oh,
that is not sustainable, like and there were there was
a lot that went into that. It's not just Richardson
it because receivers not making plays on the ball. It was,
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you know, some issues with pressure getting to him, and
then there were some throws that he missed and some
decisions that he made that he probably wants back. But
it's everything. It's the play calling, it's the players on
the field. It was everything. So that's where Shane is
coming from on it. It's not we can't. It's not we're
evaluating everything because we're gonna go bench Richardson for Joe Flacco.
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It is we cannot sustain ten of thirty two. We
cannot sustain a forty four point four percent completion rate.
And again that's not all on Richardson. Some of it is,
some of it isn't. So you have to evaluate how
can we move forward with this offense because right now,
this offense is going to go the This offense is
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going to go as far as its quarterback will take
it there. Obviously you got the running back in there
and Jonathan Taylor who looks great, but you can't sustain
the level of play the culture right right now. There
is a world where Anthony Richardson is the guy who
raises it up. If it does wind up being Joe Flacco,
there's a world where he raises it up. But you
have to get to that point. And that's what I
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think the cults are talking about right now.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And it came back to me thanks to JJ. You
prompted it right when you said it, and you talked
about kind of where this offense is. I think a
lot of the frustration why people are pointing to that
moment so much is because the magnitude of the game.
It was a very winnable game by the Colts and
just for the perception to be that you're not willing
to give it all and that's it. So I think
that it is magnified intensely because of the significance of
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playing for the division, and you had opportunities to win
that game.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And that game does kind of like I said, it
doesn't lose you the division, but boy does it make
it a difficult climb.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Geez, you're right in a mix. You get that one.
I mean, you know, they win one here, we win
one down there. We're talking a whole different ballgame right now.
I don't know if we're having the Anthony Richardson conversation
if it obviously he starts out with a W. But
both of you, I want to get your take on this.
When will we know this is an eight? This is
a national primetime game on Sunday night, a huge game
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against Minnesota. In your opinion, is it wednesday? Shane comes
out in his press conference.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's as late as possible. I'm playing gamesmanship here. I'm
not letting anything out right. Minnesota, make Minnesota prepare for
both scenarios.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
The difference is the team will know, but the public
may not until game time. Until game time, and this
has happened before.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I don't want to go back to twenty twenty two
because that year would We'd all like to forget it.
But that Raiders game where it was Jeff Saturday's first game,
Sam Elnger started the past two games, and no one
said anything about who is going to be the starting
quarterback that week, and all of a sudd and then
out of the tunnel comes Matt Ryan against the Raiders.
That can happen where you can kind of just a
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couple of.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Weeks ago at Tennessee, Oh right, yeah, and people thought
it was gonna be Anthony Richardson and it was so
flacker and we just had this happen.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So so teams can what I'm saying to your point, Lara,
you can make it as late as possible while the
team still knows, because I think sometimes the concern is
if you don't publicly announce it, what message does that
send to your team? But the message here can be, hey, guys,
everyone on this football team, here's who our starting quarterback
is going to be. But I'm not going to tell anyone.
And don't you slip it up either, like George Pickens
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did where he kind of let it slipt. The russo
Olsen was going to start for the Steelers was Mike
Tomlin was trying to massage that, like, don't do that,
but we, like, we want to make sure we get
a little bit of an advantage because preparing for these
two quarterbacks is a completely different ballgame in terms of
what you have to do.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And this is a monster of a defense that you're
going up against, with the way that Brian Flores disguises
things within his scheme, one of the top defenses against
the run, one of the stingiest in terns of points allowed,
so use everything.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, they blitz over fifty percent of the time. They're
the only team in the NFL to blitz on more
than half of their defensive snaps.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
How about that. There's gonna be some fireworks on Sunday night. Man,
this is exciting. I want to give some I'd like
to throw a few backslaps around here, something off the
top of my head to gain from and take onto
the rest of the season. Josh Dollens proving that he
is one of the most elite receivers in the NFL
with that catchup brought him down to one we all
thought he was in. I'm gonna give no backslap to
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old JD on that one.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Oh well deserved. That was looking back. Game against the
Texans in Houston. It was the first time the Colts
had a one hundred yard rusher in Jonathan Taylor and
a one hundred yard receiver in Josh down since Week
one of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah right, huh twenty two Yeah, which was also against
the Texans. I also want to kind of get this out,
like I've seen some criticism of like Shane Steichen online
lately about his play calling and stuff. I have no
doubt that he's going to figure something out for this offense,
no doubt that he is going to play a part
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in this passing offense getting better. There has been no
evidence to me outside of maybe, you know, you can
look at the last couple of games. Sure, but there's
been no long term evidence that Shane Stychen doesn't know
what he's doing. And I've seen that take a little
bit too much lately of like, let's maybe pump the
brakes on this, Like, I think he's gonna figure this
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thing out. And he's given us every reason to believe
that he will in terms of being the play caller
of this offense.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I'm not worried about that, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
All Right, Well, you know, the primetime game awaits right now,
and I just you know, getting his guys ready and
we're handing out some atta boys, and I want to say,
you know, dioa dangbo dad gumman. I'll tell you what
that I wish that run would accounted for what he did.
He's played a hell of a game.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Jonathan Taylor afterwards said, I asked him about that run
and he said, oh, he said, I thought I was
watching some of my tapes seeing Dio run like that
back there. It's so true. I mean he was hauling.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Would that okay? I should have looked this up. I
mean I would have looked it up had it counted.
But like, would that have been the heaviest Colts player
to score a touchdown since Danny Pinter? Maybe? Wait a minute,
I think I just got it. Danny Pinter in twenty
twenty one probably caught a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yes he did.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I think that. Just oh man, look at you. That's it.
I'm going to give myself some props here. That was
That was a How about that recall?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Pinner?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, yours better than mine? Tho, I can't even remember.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I would have put the mortgage. I would have put
the mortgage. And Danny Pinner never scored an NFL touchdown?
I understand that. Ye just something that just right overhead.
If I was on Jeopardy, I get that one wrong?
What is wrong? Anyway? What is right?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Some boys too? Welcome back? Number ninety nine? Oh my god,
the Forrest Bucker. Three tackles, one tackle for loss, one sack.
Nothing that thing gets me more, gets me more fired
up than when defou gets back in a game and
does a little sweep there after a sex.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Hand up at a boy backslap Gus Bradley, Yeah, good
Colts sent twenty I believe it was twenty one or
twenty two blitzes, and that they had sent a decent
number of blitzes in games earlier this year. These were funky,
like Gus was like he was in his bag like
it was. It was impressive. He had Zira Franklin and
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e J. Speed mugged up over the a gap on
eight snaps. That's more than they've done this year in
a single game. You had Kenny blitzing, You had Julian
blitz and you had Nit Cross blitzing. You had Layatu
Latu and Quitty Pay dropping into coverage. This was this
looked like a defense that was designed to be like,
you don't have Nico Collins and we're going to confuse
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the ever loving you know what. And it worked. Yeah,
it worked. They they Houston only had one scoring drive
that won seventy yards or one touchdown drive that won
seventy yards. That against an offense that I know they
had their issues this year. You got CJ. Stroud back
there and he still made his place.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yep, he did.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But I give Gus Bradley a ton of credit for
the scheme that he deployed for this game.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
You know who does not get an added boy from me?
That official that called DPI on Kenny Moore on a
beautiful pass.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I thought we was gonna say the official that called
oh wait, it's the.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Same guy, Oh wait, imagine that.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But I mean, okay, you know, the OPI one was
kind of the same thing that the Colts ran for
the downs touchdown. And when I talked about it with
Bill Brooks on instant Reaction, he did bring up a point.
He's like, look, Pitt did kind of push his arms,
but there was an.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Official that was much closer to that play, and that
official did not flag it. It was the official all.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
The way across.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, well position, I I agree. I also don't think
the Colts lost this game because of no a couple
of calls.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
But still these are just things that are still, you know,
going to be in my bonnet over that one on
a Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Be in your bonnet. Yeah, you probably have some bonnets though,
you should say around May. Yeah, I was gonna say,
like I've seen I've seen your beautiful Chucky Derby bonnet collection.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well that's coming up in twenty twenty five. Of course
it took a Derby show with Lera Overton. But before
we get to Jamie Rdall here, I mean some happenings
up there. My last Ata boy. I don't know if
it's a correct Ada boy as we started the show,
but your buddy Ben Solek yesterday on social media went
through a bunch of plays that he was totally in
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the corner of Anthony Richardson and said, hey, players around
you court, you know, players around you, Anthony need to
step up. And he went through some drops. There were
some drops against this football team and you know not
in spite of Anthony Richardson, he put the ball in
some good places right there where they just didn't come
up with it. Would we still be having this conversation
guys if there was maybe three or four receptions that
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that that happened that didn't happen on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's the results based league. So like maybe I think
it's now been a couple of weeks in a row
where the folks who are smarter than me, who look
at the tape, who you know you can you can
and like this is something Frank Reich once told me
about like looking at tape. He's like, you can really
only know like eighty percent of what's really going on
if you're not coaching it, you're not playing it when
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you're looking at the tape. But the people who do
kind of like grind tape on Twitter and do a
good job of it or on you know, on the
YouTube shows have kind of consistently been like, it's not
as bad as the stage. If you just scout the
box score it looks really bad, it might not be
as bad as that when you actually dive into the tape. Yeah,
good stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So that's a little love for Anthony Richardson. This week,
Lara tell me about miss Jamie Erdall from the NFL
Network and Minnesota native. Something special happening up there.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Big duties on Sunday for Jamie Erdall. She will be
sounding the Galler horn. Love it and for anyone who
has experienced a game day at the Vikings, it's a
big deal as things get going there. So she gets
to it's pretty unique right that she's somewhat got to
be a fan for a day being a journalist and
hosting Good Morning Football she typically has to be unbiased
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and objective. So she actually is to go back to
the great state of Minnesota where she's from and get
to take in a game, have those duties. But I
mean she'll be watching with a critical eye too, because
she's gonna have to break this thing, you.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Know, talk about Mike exactly well or or you.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Know later in the week. That's a tough turnaround. I
think getting out in an out of Minnesota, you know,
back to La in time. But yeah, Jamie is of
course the host of Good Good Morning Football, which airs
Monday through Friday at eight am Eastern Time on the
NFL Network. Also hosts Good Morning Football Overtime, which streams
Monday through Friday at ten am on the Roku channel
and on my INdTV here locally at ten a m. Yes,
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there you go. That's where you can find her because
you will want to.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
She is fantastic, all right, check this out. Larry had
a chance to sit down with Jamie Earl.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Joined by the fantastic Jamie Erdle from the NFL network headquarters.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Right now. She just got off of Good Morning Football,
hopping on Official Cults podcast with us.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Jamie, I have to ask with this on Sunday, you're
going back to Minnesota. You get to sound the Galler
Barn first and foremost, Just how unique is it for
you to enjoy a Sunday game day with the duties
you typically have on a Monday morning with Good Morning Football.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Oh my gosh. Well, that's a very loaded question, because
in our roles we like to be of have the
utmost preparation. So at there are moments, in fleeting moments
where I think, oh, I shouldn't do stuff like this.
I gotta stay and focus on all the games. I
gotta get prepared. But then at the same time, you
know on GMFB, we love the stories, we love kind
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of interweaving ourselves into the NFL and this personally, then
to bring it back going home to Minnesota and having
this honor, which like when I teared up when I
was invited, that was genuine. I had to make a
real life decision on the show that day where I
was like, am I gonna let this happen? Am I
gonna cry? I really am going to cry? And I
just couldn't say no. And the then the fact that
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Colts Vikings gets flexed into Sunday night, the intensity of
the moment just goes through the roof. So I am excited.
I'm a lot nervous, but I'm actually kind of lucky.
Now I get to watch the whole day of games
and then go have this celebratory moment. So it's kind
of the best of all worlds.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
And for Colts fans who maybe haven't gotten to experience
a game at Minnesota, I've fortunately been there for two games.
The experience, the identity of a Vikings game is so
very unique. The fan base really embraces all the skull
chant and everything put in perspective exactly the sounding of
the gallery horn.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
And the significance of it.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Okay, so it's of Norwegian origin, and it's like a war,
you know, going into war in battle with each other,
and really the horn is the end of it all.
It's the culmination of the skull chant and the skull clap.
So you got the guy on the drum who's down
on the field and he sets the pace for the
boom boom, and then everyone claps and it is like
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a slow build. There's probably ten, twelve, thirteen of those
collaps before you get up there and er and it
is I mean it's I think it started in two
thousand and eight or nine. I have to look back,
but I remember it in the Metrodome. They recreated it
in when they had to play at the College Stadium
for a year while US Bank was being built. And
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then they had it in London two weeks ago or
a couple weeks back when I was there. So yes,
they built a Yaller horn and has it. They keep
it in London out for the Minnesota fans that are
in the UK. So incredible. It's growing and I mean
it's it's it originated over there, so I guess we
can let them have it back.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
To would you say you were probably more nervous for
the debut, your debut of Good Morning Football or to
sound the Yaller horn.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
I like GMSB because it's constantly like get it to Peter,
get it to Kyle, get it to talk Bar, and
get it to anybody else who's on the show. This
feels very much like I got a stand up there,
and like you want it. It's like your wedding day,
almost like you want it to look a certain way.
And I have it in my head and I've been
watching videos of other people do it and then it's
going to be happening, and I be like, am I
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doing it right? It's a lot. It is a lot.
It is fully Yeah, it's on my mind.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I love that you're like breaking down film of other
people doing And.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Kirk Cousins when he was hurt last year, he popped
up here on Sunday Night football and did it and
took his damned shirt off with his kid. And my
COM's supposed to not going to do that. How am
I supposed to match that? So there's just so much pressure.
It's I'm very thrilled and I'm also a little bit scared.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Oh my, I can't wait to be there. I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I'll be there on our sideline so hopefully get to
see you beforehand. Obviously a lot going on with both
of these teams, but I really want to focus mostly
on your experience. I know you take such great pride
in your preparation for each and every game, just like
you do when you're back there and you have these
duties of getting everybody ready for the game, sounding a.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Horn and all.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
How much are you doing posts like how much self
scout do you do in terms of watching things back
watching your own game tape made after a show. Is
that something you guys do as a team, do you
do it individually?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
So definitely, it's done individually unless it's something egregious, which
our show is. So what I love about it is
we kind of embrace errors. We embrace you know, hiccup moments,
and we oftentimes lean into them and it becomes content
for us. For example, I'm watching actually a segment back
You're behind your Face right now, and we had Coach
of the Year predictions and we were talking about how
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Dan Campbell could he be a Coach of the Year contender,
and I had picked Matt Lafleor to start the season.
So we have this full screen up right now and like,
just my face is highlighted, the guys are in like
the darkness, which is so strange, and it just looks
really awkward on TV. And so earlier today I was like,
and my pick is casting a shadow on the rest
of you fools. Like it just it just you know,
I think other productions they might stress out, like get
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that graphic off. It looks terrible, But like, we just
do so much TV here and we love all of
our little, you know, imperfections, that we make it work
to your point, though, a little bit of a perfectionist
just from the chair that I sit in. If I
feel like something could have gone better, I always kind
of replay the show in my head as the day
goes through. I'll go back and watch certain things that
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I think I could have phrased differently or set someone
up differently. But it's a daily game that we play,
you know, we don't just have a show on Sunday,
so you also have to sharpen the skill of letting
things go.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I think that viewers, for the most point also appreciate
a little peak behind the curtain when things don't go
perfectly right because it's a little bit more relatable and
you're almost letting people in on the joke. And I
think that's one of the beautiful things about the dynamic
of Good Morning Football is that it doesn't have to
be perfectly produced for it to work because of the
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dynamic that you guys all have at the breakfast table.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Yes, I totally agree. We had a segment yesterday where
Arnold Schwarzenegger had a comment about Miles garrett Halloween costume,
and we put up the tweet that Arnold had and
it said ten out of ten no notes, and like
we were supposed to respond to the tweet and instead
Kyle Brandt had beef for the fact that, like, that's
not arnold, he doesn't tweet like that, Like why would
a seventy plus year old man tweet no notes given?
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Like and it's just like always the left turn to
your point into like this, let's just say what we're
all actually thinking. And of course Kyle is the best
ated on our show.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Thank goodness that you can roll with those things, and
that's probably a credit to your long tenure as a
sideline reporter, where there's so many things that are happening
impromptu that it can't always be scripted, and you have
to be able to respond in a moment's notice and
have a witty comeback or have a good respond to
be able to bounce to the next thing. So it's
really the blend of your entire background and your culmination
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being in that scene.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Yeah, that's probably a really good way to explain it.
Although I'll tell you I was a sideline reporter for
eight years and I still do it a little bit
for international needs. But when I see moments now to
your point that I can see flip on a dime
like that. It makes me so grateful that I'm not
the one running across the field to get the team
that you didn't think was gonna happen. I think of
Tracy Wolfson this weekend with CBS and the Hail Mary
(25:53):
in Washington. I'm like, I wonder where she was standing.
I wonder who she was getting ready to interview, as
she was not ready for that, you know, just to
totally fan. So there are moments where I'm kind of
relieved that I just get to be in the friendly
confines at the studio. You guys are.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Such a team, and I think about within the Colts
locker room, there are certain guys that we talk about
you level up to that kind of raise that bar
a guy like Delforest, Buckner, Dyer, Franklin, Kletton Nelson. You know,
different guys across the locker room. Who is it at
that table that you feel.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Like, Okay, I'm leveling up my game.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I'm stepping up because I know that he's always bringing it.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Or maybe it's different guys in different situations.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
So to your point, to circle back to what you
said earlier about do I self scout Uh, it's my job.
I would think to kind of what I like to say,
set the table and make sure the napkins are right
and the forks are in the right spot, and just
so when we go to have a conversation about anything
in the NFL. I'll take you guys this week for example,
you know, we've been talking a lot about Anthony Richardson,
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and every time we bring it up, you got to
make sure people understand. Listen, it was the third quarter,
he had run twice before this. Just make sure we
have the facts sound and then we go from there.
Anytime Peter Shreger comes on and is like, okay, little
context here after I've already teed it up, I go,
dang it. I didn't like. I must not have done
it exactly up to Peter's standard. And so that's to
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answer your questions. It's for me at Shreggs, because to me,
he is like NFL context PhD. And if I've done
it the right way that I'm supposed to in terms
of any conversation we're going to have, just make sure
everyone knows the facts and then you know, tee the
ball up. Then he doesn't have to do that. He doesn't,
which that's him picking me up on the back end.
But if he does do it, I'm kind of like, oh,
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and so I'll watch that back and I'll say, like,
what did he say that I didn't that I need to,
you know, make sure I get that information. And so
Shreggs is what we what I like to call him
is like our editorial north star, Like he always has
a beat on the direction we should be going in,
what we're talking about, what we haven't talked about, and
just really keeping us on the straight and arrow.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
That's great though for him as a teammate though, because
there are situations and I'm sure he might be able
to add additional context maybe to something.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
You're setting up.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
So as much responsibility as you're shouldering, you also know
that everyone is there sharing in that as well and
willing to pick.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
You up exactly. And there are some I know, for one,
like I could never be a column coward, Like I
just can't talk for like X amount of minute. It
just I like that. And I have a time clock
in my head. I feel like of about forty seven
to fifty seconds where all of a sudden, it's like
I'm sick of here in my own voice, like I
got to get I got to get moving through this segment.
So because sometimes it does take some setup and whatnot,
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but mostly I want to kick the ball around. I
want to make sure everyone is prepared and ready and
put in the best spot to share whatever they want
to say that day.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Well that's probably because that's about the time you get
as a sideline report too. It's like, Okay, you've got
a thirty to forty five seconds to set into an
entire story and then it's on to the next thing.
So that internal clock is am blazing of a decade
nearly of doing that.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
I'm sure that's exactly right there. The pressures of getting
your story in before the snap comes, like still is
one that haunts me. And you turn around like you're
on camera. You this is real inside baseball now you
between you and I. You turn around, you're like watching
the ball the center and then maybe the official comes
over and hovers. You're like, great, I got five more seconds.
I'm gonna keep telling my stories. So it's so true.
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And lest you talk over a snap like just don't
you know, God forbid, you know, can't do it, like producer,
next time, don't talk over kame action. It's like, Okay,
we get it.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
This is relatively knew that the show has been based
out of LA. You were frond there New York headquarters.
Everyone is now there in LA. What is your daily
wake up? But it has to be like three am
or so to get in there to be on air
on the East.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Coast time when you're operating on the West coast.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
It's three. But I have three kids five and under,
so like what sleep is kind of all relative at
this point. Snapping is uh, is this great skill to
have as a as a grown adult. Yeah, it's three,
It's honest, no big deal. It's like, I'm it's we're
on five to nine. We just chop it up about
the games and we move on to the next week.
And like the gift the show is when we are
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in the thick of the season and it's just the
wheel that keeps on turning and we don't stop talking
about things, and you can always reflect back, you can
always spin it forward, you can spend it two weeks forward.
You got the trade deadline, you've got international games. There's
always something to talk about.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
It.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
It's really not as hard as people think it might be.
Five to nine, it's no big deal.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Well, your family gets to go with you this weekend?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Are you making these my husband's from Minnesota to thank
you for asking? Yeah, all the kids are gonna come.
I mean when it got shifted to a night game,
now we got to make a couple of adjustments. Maybe
they're not going to come to the actual game. But
with so much family in Minnesota and my husband's friends,
now they like I I think ticket sales if they
have like a minute to minute, Like after I got
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the invite, my husband's buddies, I swear it was like
they all were like, we're all in the eighteenth row
whatever section they want to come. So it's I'm so
excited and I feel so lucky to be there.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
You're gonna have your own little hype squad.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yeah, exactly, amazing.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Okay, just a couple more minutes than I know. You've
got to get on you the rest of your duties.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
For those who might be in Minneapolis this weekend, maybe
Colts fans are traveling to the game.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
You have all day to enjoy downtown.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
That's one of the beautiful things, the stadium, the location
where it is. It's one of my favorite atmospheres in
you know, the entire league.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
What should people do?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You know?
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Around downtown is.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
There for Gamday?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Okay, So there's a really cool boutique hotel called Hewing Hotel,
and then there's an avenue that stretches I think it's
fourth Avenue across Hewing Hotel, and just all the way
down that way there's all these original smack Shack is
a really fun restaurant. There's all these little The Loop
is a really like a divy bar, but it's really
fun to go too. So you could go down that
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way by the Hewing Hotel, or you could cross the
bridge into North into like North Minneapolis kind of and
go on like Nicolette Island, and there's this event place
called Machine Shop. There's all these bars and restaurants just
across the bridge. So the bridge is very famous because
the river runs right through Minneapolis, so if you cross
the bridge, it's always very like scenic. There's mills that
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sit right into Minneapolis, and then right around by the
stadium there's awesome places too.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
My gosh.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
But but and I think there's like an Usher concert
happening that night. Oh yeah, I heard at Target Center
and then I heard some people were saying that the
Maple Leafs were playing the Wild and NHL that night,
and the I don't know if that game got shifted
to like it is going to be a crazy day
in Minneapolis on Sunday, So I think anywhere you go
it's gonna be awesome. But if I had to go
to one place, I will go to Smacksheck, okay, awesome.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
It kind of sounds like the whole reason we have
to get out of Indianapolis this weekend because Taylor Swift
is taking over Lucas Oil Stadium three consecutive nights.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
So that's the Similarly where like downtown Indy is just going.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
To be over.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
She's probably nice for you guys that I got moved
to Sunday night because it like best you just stay
out of town until the Swift is fully departed.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Yeah exactly, So, well you have to get out of
the game and go straight back to La or like the.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Vikings are being the the Viking similar to I know
what the Colts would do if it were the same.
You're being great hosts. I'm actually going to do the
show from Minnesota at the Vikings facility on Friday morning
and Monday morning, so it's kind of like be like
a little post mortem and like a build up and
hopefully we get like a player or two to stop by.
So yeah, it was gonna be like a whole Minnesota weekend.
And I kind of wish they were still undefeated. I
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don't feel great about the fact that they've dropped two
games since they invited me to do this, but we're
gonna get things back on track.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I hope that one of the guys you get on
set is step On Gilmour because he was one of
my favorite guys in the time that we had Gilly
Lock here, so I very much look forward. He's one
who I can't wait to see on Sunday. I just
don't hope he doesn't have too good of a game.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I like, so good to see you, but yeah, don't
be too good exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Yeah, Jason mccordyon and Stefan Gilmour are very close, so
like we always you know, heard Gilli lock when last
all last, you know, two years, So yeah, it would
be great to see all those guys. But I'm excited
about it, and who knows what's gonna end up happening
with you guys.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
All week.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, I know, certainly the news will come out. We'll
have a lot to cover over the course of the week.
You will have a lot to cover on Good Morning Football, Jamie.
Thank you so much for taking the time. Look forward
to seeing you on Sunday in Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
To catch up. Really, it's so good to see you.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Thanks to Jamie art All and be sure to check
her out on Sunday when she's blowing the matter.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Horn, the Calor horn, whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I'm glad we get her back though, because there was
a period of time where Jamie did quite a few
Colts games. She was doing some sideline stuff for CBS.
We you know, have had her around. She did sidelines
not too long ago for an NFL Network game. So
hopefully this means we see maybe Jamie Lucas Oil Stadium
later this year.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
It means we leave a lumpus skull under the Vikings tree.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Oh. I like that December skull. I like what he's saying. Okay,
and they're gonna be loud up there. That place.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Place is tough to play, But like Lucas Oil Stadium,
we have an awesome crowd. I think it matches any
crowd in the NFL. But I want to say Minnesota,
that is a great Oh.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's gonna be live, and I mean it's happening come
Sunday night. You both are gonna be there. So guys,
let's talk big picture a little bit. Four and four
the sink. You know, the ship isn't sinking. There's a
good football team four and four. Let's look around the
AFC a little bit when it comes to landing a
playoff spot. Hey, Cincinnati, you keep doing what you have
to do, and you know we're catching some breaks here
and there. But at a four and four position, with
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now four games in this buzzsaw part of the schedule,
were calling out, I'm talking two three wins out of
this thing is gonna help you on the backside of it.
What's your outlook at this team right now?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
At four and four, they're right there. I mean they're
a half game behind the Chargers for a wild card spot.
You got a game against Denver who's one game ahead
of you, and the standings, you know, depending on what
happens with Pittsburgh. You know, if they win the division,
obviously you can't beat them up, but you have a
game in hand on them. On the head to head tiebreaker.
There's a so much that can happen, Like, I wouldn't
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count out the Colts. I wouldn't count out the Bengals
sitting there at three and five, even some of these
teams that are down there at two and six, Like,
you're not buried yet, You're really not buried. So you know,
could Cleveland go on a run now that they have
you know, competent quarterback play with Jameis Winston back. I
don't know. I mean is there is a lot that
can happen over the second half of the season. It's
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an unpredictable league. And I'm not burying the Colts by
any The Colts are right there, right, They're right there,
and they do I've said this a couple of times.
The thing that this team does best is play and
win upfront with their offensive line. That's what they do best.
And you know what usually happens when you have a
good offensive line throughout a season. You can win with that.
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You can figure out ways to win with that.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Glad you brought that up really quick, Bernard Ryman in
the concussion protocol, We're gonna find out what happens there.
He doesn't go let's just say he doesn't go. Who
is our left tackle?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Probably Matt Gonzalvezlake Freeland could be an option there too,
but you know, the Colts have a lot of confidence
that Gonsalves can step in. When I was talking to
Tony Sprowno Junior, the O line coach, for a story
about Dalton Tucker and Tanna Borderalini earlier, he kind of
made made a point to mention that, hey, you know,
if Matt needs a step in two, we're confident that
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he can get the job done as well.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Good We're gonna see it because all eyes on that
Sunday night game. It is a primetime event. Think it's
an eight to fifteen, eight to twenty kickoff something like that.
Can't wait, Lara, you want to touch on this team
a little bit with the outlook from what they're having,
we don't know, you know, where they're going to go
with any big major changes or looking at everything, don't
know who's starting, you know, at the quarterback position right now,
I mean it's still Anthony's delouse, I imagine, But where we
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at going into the playoff?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Look, well, I think that you look at the stretch
that you have ahead you're at Minnesota, and then you're
home against Buffalo on the road against the Jets, which
is another primetime game for right now. We'll see what
happens there, and then home against Detroit on the road
against the Patriots. So you could stack a couple of
wins in there and go into the bye week in
a really strong position. What we have to keep in
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mind is the second half of the season begins at
midpoint of this Vikings game. Like, that's your kind of
eight and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Game right in seventeen game schedule does not fit well
for my brain, like round.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Number I know same. I was having this whole debate
yesterday with Kevin Connor as one of our videographers as
we were producing Cultal sixty. I was like, Oh, yeah,
I'm trying to wrap my mind around that. So this
is the point where what I'm encouraged by is this
defense has established its identity. I talked with Ziah Franklin
about that and just the difference that there has been
over the last four weeks or so really with the
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way that this defense is playing and committing to that identity,
and there's a certain mentality about this defense. I think
that now this is the time where the offense has
that opportunity. I really think that the situation coming out
of Green Bay was a I don't know, it wasn't
necessarily like a light bulb, no, but it was a
time where this defense just all got together and got
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on the same page and they're like, this is the
standard that we are going to be at. And now
I think this could be a similar type of situation
for this offense that whatever happens, whatever transpires over this week,
could be the difference in your season.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah. I think that's a really good way to put it.
The defense since Week two has been kind of what
I think we expected this defense to be this year.
It's not you know, they've gone from being the thirty
second in rushing yards allowed for play to fourteenth in
the span of a you know what, like a month
and a half. Like so there's there's a lot of
improvement there. The past defense has been totally fine. Like
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getting Kenny back.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
And you had was huge. Five of those games. You
didn't have DeForest Buckner right two of two, you didn't
have Kenny one, you didn't have EJ. Speed. When you
look at that, I mean, yeah, some of those guys
that you were missing in that stretch and you still improved.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Also, I mean like there's a lot of like, oh yeah,
you know, look at the Colts play the last two
weeks with like Will Levis and Tyler Huntley or Tim Boyle,
and it's like, Okay, they just went out and they
did a really good job against CJ. Stratt. I know
there's twenty three points, but again, seven of those points
came on a seven yard field, right that I don't
totally prescribe to the Colts defense. Like if they if
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they went out and they held Houston to nineteen points
or sixteen points, you'd be like, oh, that's great, what
a performance. So let's keep it in that context too,
that this defense is playing a lot better and those
first two weeks of the season feel like an awfully
long time ago, right.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Hey, speaking of a lot better. Sam Darnold playing a
lot better than we've seen in years past, and he
is a signal caller in Minnesota. So that's happening on
Sunday night. All the information you need at Colts dot
com and at Lara Overton, at JJ Stankowitz on the
Twitter X, and guys, I want to end with something
I usually like to pick your brains on some things.
(40:22):
See where you're at on things. I had a cop
I had a couple to choose from. But I'm about done.
I'm about done with statues, and I want to get
your take on statues because obviously this comes from Dwayne Wade.
Low hanging fruit, I know, but I'm about done with statues.
I like what's going outside of Lucas Oil Stadium. I
thought that that artist did a nice job with Kadi Pie.
But I'm telling you some of the statues I've seen
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around the world ridiculous. If you're not gonna get it right,
don't do it. That looks nothing like Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
No, I mean, Sarah, but I mean it's not as
bad as the Ronaldo want.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Oh and there's another one. Have you with me on this?
Can we stop doing it? Orda?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Did you guys see her? Dwaine Wade's response, It couldn't
have been classy or whatever. He said, that's just an
artistic interpretation for the And I was like, what a
what a lovely guy.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
If they're gonna make a statue of you, here's my thing.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Jeffy, So you have to approve your statue? Yeah, we
are building here outside fifty sixth Street.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, right, a statue for me.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
We just dedicated the media room last week to chapel. Yeah,
so the Jeffrey Gorman statue is the next thing to come.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oh look at the birds that will be perched on
that and the crap that'll be sitting all over. No,
I'm saying, like, guys, that should be in the it's
just unwritten law. Hey you want to make I appreciate
you guys making a statue. I get final approval before
the public season.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Well, okay, at least at least get the head right
before you start everything.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
And yeah, Oh the Allen Iverson one's kind of funny, right,
isn't that. That's another one that's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, couple, that's There's a lot of them that were
so I was like, that's why I wanted to bring
it up and just see what your take is.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
But anyway, I mean, you know one that always gets
talked about is the John Wooden statue downtown just because
of how odd it is with like the detached legs.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Oh that is.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, that's another Like Johnny Boy looks great, but it's
just everything else around hanging legs.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yes, it's a little bit where. Hey, a lot going
on this weekend? Any Taylor Taylor Swift plans, guys that
are gonna be taking over Indianapolis's coming weekend, any connection
to this weekend and whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I'll be going Friday that away.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Do you have your friendship bracelets ready? I do?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Get them?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, we we had a we had our friends. Shout
out to Ellie Kate Fowler for la some friendship bracelets.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, yeah, see there you go.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Well Ellie's mom is a friend of mine from college.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yes, so she made us some friendship bracelets. They look great.
We'll be wearing them. I got a shirt that says
a lot of football going on at the moment. We're
we're going all in on this.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Is that a reference?
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yes? Oh well, you don't ask me to what's on?
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I'm just asking can you sing along to a few
of hers?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
So oh yeah, yeah no, I mean my my kids
love listening to Taylor Swift and so we encourage that.
And they're four, so like.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
That'll be a can't wait to ask this question. And
larr Olverton, you at the Taylor Swift on I'm good
there it is right there.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Sisters going. My sister's coming intown. She's staying the she's going.
I'm like, you have a blast. I will be as
far out of downtown as I can.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Also, like quick take, I think what Taylor Swift is
doing on this tour is one of the most impressive
like achievements a human has had recently. Think about what
she's playing like three and a half hours without stopping. Yeah,
Like to be able to do that for at that
shows at that rate is so impressive. If she were
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an athlete, it would be like she's the greatest athlete
of all time.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Hey, right there, you're incredible. JJ Stankovich. Taylor Swift better
than the Beatles? You heard it right here? That's what
is that? What you said? Right? Yeah? But yeah, I
mean I just want some heat on that from people. Yeah,
because that is But you're not off.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Do the Beatles still gonna pop if, like you say,
like you're better than the Beatles?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Sure, okay, yeah, sure we'll see in the comment in
the YouTube comments. All right, but what's made it this far?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Hey, no disagreement.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
If anyone you're still here, if you're still here listening
to us Babylon about ten Swift.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
No disagreement though. What a talented artist, and she's doing
it the right way and making money and spreading love
everywhere around the world. So Taylor, good job, thanks for
stopping in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
And taking her at Jonathan Taylor Jersey.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
She better Yeah, there better be something come on that's like.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
A layup, right, what that happened? That's happened.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You're gonna be there, get your get your arm oiled
up and throw it, get it on stage, and maybe
she does.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I mean, you know what I need is like a
blues T shirt, T shirt cannon yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Fun.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
I don't know if I could get in the stadium
with that thing though, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
I just want a photo off of Taylor in front
of Taylor, right, like Taylor Swift in front of the
Jonathan Taylor banner.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Like I didn't mean putting that together.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I get it. It's a huge opportunity when the Bears
were in here to get the Taylor Swift photo with
Jonathan Taylor and DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Next week Taylor Swift photos from this man.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
He wanted to say thank you to Matt Bowen for
not taking that photo.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Thank you, Matt.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I didn't mean that as a as a slight and
Matt Bowen and because thank you for not taking that
would have been complete overkilled a stage that shot.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Don't forget. Colts dot com has the latest we've been
trying to get. I've been trying to get off the
same man Colts dot Com at Lera Overton, at jjstink.
If it's a big one that waits on Sunday, and
a lot of questions will be answered through the week.
You're gonna find your answers with these two, so follow
them online and of course at colts dot Com. I'm
Jeffrey Gorman. Thanks to Jamie Erdaal today whoops, thanks to you,
Lera Overton, and thanks JJ. Can't wait for Sunday night, Minnesota.
(45:22):
It's about an eight something kickoff. I don't know what
it is, be there or b Square. Oh you know
we'll be there if we run that time somewhere around
eight eight fifteen. Goodbye,