March 25, 2025 • 35 mins
Jeffrey Gorman, Larra Overton and JJ Stankevitz run through the ABCs of the Colts' offseason, hitting topics from Anthony Richardson's competition with Daniel Jones to offensive line depth and how Lou Anarumo's defense will come together in 2025. The gang also teases an announcement on what's coming up for Colts podcasts in the future.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Official Could Podcast. Jeffrey Borman, JJ Stangelitz.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Lara over Ten is here.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We've got some great announcements coming up down the way.
But we're gonna make those announcements throughout the next couple
of minutes. And what I'm saying is, I'm not making
much sense right now, but you're not follow me here. Okay,
it's off season. You know we're headed into summer right now.
I want to do the ABC's of the Colts off season.
And here's the thing. These ABC's are gonna change when
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we get to camp. I may throw an ABC's of
Westfield at you when we get up there. The ABC's
of in season next. I mean, there's a lot, but
right now we're in the off season. So I got
a lot of topics to go over the ABC's of
the Colts offseason, So I'm gonna throw a few to
you if we could keep this thing rolling along.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What do you think I like it? You like that? Yeah,
let's let's rock and roll.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Let's go back to this is like West fifty sixth
Street Elementary.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's it right a right now, and it's We're gonna
have a few trip in here. Somewhere, but just let
me go. We start with the ABCS. Of course we
start with a Lera Overton. Let me start with you
the big A. JJ talked about it yesterday when we
talked about this little idea, I said, with the ABC's
you have to start off with a with the quarterback
when his name is Anthony Richardson. The ABC's of Anthony
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Richardson off season to you.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
To me, I think it's you know, how he responds
to having some competition with Daniel Jones, and from everything
that we have heard throughout, you know, the period of
time in which he's been training down on Florida and
all of that, is that he's just continued to lock in.
And you know understand in talking with coach Sdike and
Chris Ballard what the expectation is of him. And I
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wholly expect that Anthony to thrive on having more competition
within that quarterback room. He's such a competitive guy, He's
a lifelong athlete. This is a situation in which I
think you will really see growth from Anthony Richardson. And
I thought although it was a slim, you know, window
of time in which he was compete against Gardner Minshew
to earn the starting job his rookie season. I thought
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he benefited from that, and I expect very much of
the same this year. And I do think that it
benefits this offense that Daniel Jones. One thing we've talked
with Chris Ballard about as we prepared for Behind the
Colts Free Agency episode that comes out on Tuesday night.
You know, he talked about that Daniel's skill set will
compliment this offense. Its offense not going to be a
completely like revamp of the offense, you know, when you
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see maybe Daniel coming in, and I think that's going
to benefit all around.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What I'm curious about is just how good Because you're right, Lara,
everything we've heard about Anthony Richardson so far has been
that he has taken to this competition, he's he's invested
in it, he's accepted it. How does that play out
when we get totas? How does that play out when
we get to those practices that otherwise you know, charting
them can be a bit of a mirage sometimes because
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you know you're working on installs, basic installs. But how
does he look? How does he how does he look
in OTAs? When you start seeing it on the grass.
That's going to be a huge question we are going
to get answered over the next couple of months.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I can't wait for that too, because like as we
speak right now, I think he's sowing the ball somewhere
in Florida, like as we speak now, working hard on
this thing. And I'm going to get up because it's
such an important topic in the NFL's quarterback Do you
how do you notice a difference in him in the
second ota practice JJ that you're going to watch it
a couple of months from now, a couple of weeks.
What difference do you notice?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I think it's not about one singular practice. I think
it's about the scope of it, of all the practices
that we'll get to see going into that veteran mini camp. Yeah,
how does he just take take it into totality? Not
in a singular day. And I don't know. It's like
it's one of those things where I think we'll know
it when we see it, where it's not gonna be Oh,
he completed sixty eight percent of his passes during OTAs
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he's made a stride. It's just like, how does it look? Yeah,
you know, eye test is like a very like nebulous thing.
But I think it's I think we're gonna kind of
know just from the eye test.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And really quickly to follow up on that.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I think it's where you see, you know, you get
the highs, you get like the jaw dropping type of plays,
but you want to see, you know, the the lower
end be higher, right, you want do you want the
ceiling in the floor to be a little closer together? Right,
Not to have as drastic of a roller coaster of
highs and lows. It's more of a highs and mediums
right where you obviously are going to have, you know,
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days where throws are off for their incompletions, whatever, but
you know, not so far off from what we have
seen in previous opportunities.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I do you think seven on seven might be a
dif a decent window into this, because even last year
during training camp, I think he struggled a little bit
during some of those seven on seven periods. The ball
is on the ground quite a bit, and those are
periods where you got to be in rhythm and you
gotta be accurate because there's no pass rush, there's no
you know, if you escape the pocket in a seven
on seven, it's kind of like, well, everything was covered
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and there was nothing open there. So is he thrown
it on time? Is he thrown it accurately? In seven
on seven? Could be something to look for there.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Way we get a lot to look for. We're going
to get through the ABC's of this colts off.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You like BC and D are kind of a cluster altogether.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, let's do him together.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Tell me about it. But I got to stay out
A for one second, Give me one second for AA
also stands for Ava who helps us out week in
and week out behind the camera. That Ava. It is
the last show of you, and we want to thank
you here while we're live with all of our audience,
and JJ and Larren say thank you from the bottom
of our hearts.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You've done a great job. Absolutely, Oh that was nice
you could you sort of hear that?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, And you're right, we kind of clumped these in.
So let's do that B C and D. We're talking
about I threw ballhawk defense in there because of lou
Ana Rumo and his defense and what we got obviously
with cam Binham coming in here, Savarius Ward, competition and death.
So if we want to let's go B C and
D ball hawking competition depth.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So ball hawking, the Colts were seventh and takeaways last
year Nice tied with the Cincinnati Bengals with twenty five
takeaways interceptions though were Cults were fifth in interceptions. The
Bengals were eighth in interceptions. So, like this defense does
have a little bit of that in them. I don't
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I don't know if necessarily you're gonna have more this year.
It's kind of hard to bet on, like, oh, we're
gonna get We're gonna increase our takeaways. Twenty five is
a lot of takeaways that the Colts had last year.
But can you just more consistently disrupt plays? More sacks
is gonna be big, More past deflections, fewer open receivers.
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Like when lou An Rumo, you know, was on the
film breakdown I did with him and he talked about
playing tight coverage. That right there that you know, that's
gonna be a big thing that the Colts are gonna
be doing more of. Can they just be a little
bit more impactful in disrupting things while still being a
defense that takes the ball away like they were last year.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
And then with that, when you get the takeaways, do
something with them. I think that you far too often
last season were not complimentary when your defense took the
ball away in capitalizing on the opportunities that they gave you.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, the problem here is the Colts were seventh in
takeaways and nineteenth in turnover differential, so they're still at
minus four. Because you're right, Lara, they would take the
ball away and then they would just give it right back.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Is that guy? Kind of a silly question, but let's
stay right there. We're talking ballhawk defense depth that all
fits into there is Sharvarius Ward. Is Moody one of
those guys where I say, hey, we're not throwing to
his side of the field. Is he that type of
player that that he can have that sort of resume
with opposing offensive coordinators?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I hope that's the hope that he he, you know,
is that guy for this defense? And I asked him
when I sat down with him, like how much he
takes pride in they didn't throw my way? And that
means he doesn't get interceptions, he doesn't get past deflections.
But if he's targeted twice a game, that's not because
teams are like we're you know, that's because teams are
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like we don't want to throw near Tarvarius Ward.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Kenny Morgant's better, right, Kenny Morgan got better really quick
like that. All great players, but somebody surrounding. And when
we're talking about depth, Kenny Moore, Cam bind him on
a backside from him wherever Kenny saw Oh yeah, with Sharvarius.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I have talked with Kenny multiple times about this and
how excited he is to have these complimentary pieces, you know,
within the secondary, especially from you know, we have seen
this group be at their best when there's just so
much trust and just the ability for like the non
verbal cues between you know, Kenny and the rest of
that secondary and how they have all played so well
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in compliment to each other. And I think that Sharvarius
and Cam are both testaments to that. I love the
confidence that each of them come in with and they're
very different in the confidence you know that they bring.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
That is really going to elevate this group.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I also think it's gonna be really good for guys
like you know, Juju Brents and Jalen Jones, to have
a Nick Cross, to have you know, leadership, to have
experience like that in the room, to have those guys
to learn from and help elevate their game. You know,
I think Kenny is gonna be Kenny. He plays at
that level. He's gonna bring what he gives you each
and every week. I think I really look for the
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rest of that room, speaking to the competition, the depth
to level up.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So I throw a phone, want to we'll move on.
This is BC and d all kind of jumbled together
in the Colts offseason. ABCS does a rookie offensive lineman
compete for a starting position this upcoming season?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's a good one the rookie, Yes, okay, I think
so I I you look at the way the Colts
line is made up right now, or you've got Bernard Rayman,
Quintin Nelson, Braden Smith was locked in, locked in, and
then you've got Tanner Bordellini probably at center. You're probably
looking at Mackensalves is a right guard right now. But
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there is a a potential that you might look at
Mackensalves and say, this guy this we need, we need
that tackle depth. He can provide that. Maybe we we
have him battle it out with someone at right guard
who we draft on day one, Day two, even Day
three and just kind of see where it goes. Maybe
it becomes Tanner BORDERLINI as a competition at center. That
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that's a real I think that is def only on
the table here for this.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I think, so what do you think the way that
Chris Ballard goes and he says, hey, do you think.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Anything's on the table? I think we keep them moving,
let's go keeping, let's go.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, here we go. Let's go to e for explosive plays.
All right, we have twenty or more plus yards. Colt said,
sixty nine of them last year. Is that they were
tied for eighth with that, by the way, and that
was with ar missing six games. Is it the same
stats this year? Ors?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, I think you got you gotta be better, right,
you gotta be better in that area?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
For eight?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Eighth is good. But the problem is if you're tied
for eighth, and then the efficiency of your offense is
maybe not where not not top ten. If you're not
going to be as efficient as an offense, you need
to be like top five in explosive plays. I'd like
to see. I'd like to see that number either stay
the same or go up. But mostly I want to
see the efficient plays go up the you get you know,
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it's boring, but you get five yards on first down
because you completed a pass or you know, you had
a run that went for that. Those are the plays
that are going to help your offense out almost more
than the explosives. I think the explosives are great, but
sixty nine over the course of a seventeen game season
is what like for a game if you can get
if you can up the efficient plays so you have
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I don't know, I'm just throwing a number out twenty
efficient plays in a game, maybe more that will help
those explosive plays be more impactful.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think you too.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
You've got to look at the talent with which you
have and the opportunity for explosive plays when you have
weapons like a Jonathan Taylor and Alec Pierce that we
have seen, and then you know you're gonna bolster maybe
some of that within the draft as well. Then you
also think about Anthony Richardson at quarterback. Looking at the
pieces that you have, you certainly want to capitalize on
the opportunity that you have for those explosive plays, but
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then also be you know, better imbalance, you know with
some of the plays that you have. You know, we
talk about you know, the mid range games, so to speak,
and you're certainly going to see that improve from what
we saw last year. We talked about, you know, just
being more you know, complimentary. It was a little bit
feaster famine last year in certain areas of the offense,
so you want to see that a little more even
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distribution across that. But yeah, I think from the explosive
play standpoint, you know, given the you know, explosiveness that
you saw last season with you know, a guy like
Alex Pearce, you know what JT can give you, especially
if he's on the field, and teams have to account
for the thread of AR and JT together, that's going
to create great opportunities for you to capitalize on those
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type of situations.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I like clumping in some letters. We're going to continue
to do that. Finish and fast I put off for
f growth and hopeful. Finish and fast. I'm just gonna
skip right over right there, growth and hopeful. If you
guys could give me who are you looking forward to
watching in camp that you're gonna watch that growth. You're
going to see it from either year one to two
or year.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Two to twe I'm actually gonna go finishing fast, really quickly,
because one of the things that this team has certainly
struggled to do is close out games, especially you know,
fourth quarter. Shane has not shied away from that, and
I do think that is where you look to the
experience within your locker room to help elevate that guy.
Who have We've talked so much about the guys coming
in the playoff experience that they've brought in being part
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of winning teams. I think that will be a great
influence on how this team prepares to close out games
much more effectively than we have seen in the past.
Growth and hopeful, I'm really excited for Josh Downs. That's
a guy who last year obviously had a slower start
to the season because of the injury, you know, given
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his being able to have healthy offseason, healthy all through
training camp, to me, he is probably one of the
biggest factors in this offensive success. I think he's one
of Ar's more reliable targets. We know that those two
have a great rapport and I think that the growth
of Josh Downs will be mirrored in the growth of
Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
For my growth and hopeful, I'm going how the rush
and coverage can work together on defense, where if you're
going to play more tight coverage, maybe that leads to
a quarterback hitching a little bit more. Maybe, you know,
LouAnn Arumo's kind of this this mad scientist back there
with his coverages. Maybe that gets a quarterback to hitch
a little bit more coverage helping out the rush. Because
last year, how many times did we see Laatu Latu
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beat the guy in front of him and the balls
whizzing by his ear? That right there, for a guy
like Latu could lead to his sack production going up.
It could lead to the sack production for a quity
pay to Forrest Buckner, you know, getting Samson ebicom back.
Maybe all of a sudden, the coverage helps out the
rush that the colts have invested so much into. Now
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they've invested a lot into the coverage with Ward and
with Baynum, and then even lou An Aruma. I would
throw in there, he's you're investing in coverage by hiring him.
Maybe that helps out all the investments you made in
your defensive line.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
All right, Bernie Ryman, I'm looking at you. A little growth,
a little hopeful, I know, that's crazy. He's been playing. Girl.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I think he's already pretty good.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I know, but I'm saying, like this Pro Bowl shit,
all right, that's what I'm looking for out of Bernie.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Do you kind of feel like that trajectory is certainly
within the realm of Foster and even.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I even I also want to say this, even if
he doesn't, even if he just stays.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Where he's it's a really to It's tough, right, Like,
just in terms of how battle shakes out.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Having a good left tackle is really hard to find
in the NFL, and having a good left tackle you
took in the third round is even harder to find.
And the Colts got it with Bernie Ryman. So the
value that he brings to this team as just a
good player, like baseline, he can get better. I absolutely
think he can get better, But sometimes we need to
temper our expectations and be like, look, he's a good
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player who you know is probably gonna be part of
this offensive line for a long time, and that's fine.
That's good, and you want good players on that line,
and Bernard Ryan's a good player.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I feel like that's what you saw with the Anthony
Castanzo for so long.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, like whenever it was a pro bowler, but he
was a good player.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Oh and like highly respected across the league, but like it,
he was what he was. He great like he didn't
need the accolades to define who he was. Right and
everyone in this organization from the fan base, highly valued
what he gave you week in week out, regardless of
maybe how everyone else voted him from the popularity contest.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That is the Pro Bowl, right, I would agree with
that at learra Olverton, at jjink. If it's if you
like us, let us know. If you don't like us,
let us know. Ivery want These are the ABC's of
the off season. We want to continue to move along.
Right here, guys, I'm gonna throw it to Lara here,
you and and I or you want a Jay, I'm
going I International obviously the Berlin game or Jay Jim
Bob Cooter the off season for the Colts offensive coordinator,
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give me International? Okay, what do you like?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
This is a huge opportunity for the Colts because you
are hosting the game internationally. This is different than when
you went to Frankfurt two years ago. This is the
opportunity to continue to cultivate a huge fan base and
to engage with a very passionate base of fans that
we have seen in Germany really across Europe in general.
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And when we were all over there, when we were
in Frankfurt, we saw how much that you know, enthusiasm
was there. I think that is going to be you know, surpassed.
Even so when you go to Berlin with all the
activation that there is the way that you know, Bjorn Varner,
Bjorn Warner has like continued to kind of aggregate a
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fan base and engage with fans over there. That's one
thing for me that I think is going to be
really intriguing and I cannot wait to see with the
investment being made over there, how the Colts fan base
in Berlin just continues to go. Because it's a very
sports centric, sports passionate area, you know, steeped in history
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that I think really aligns well with this team, this organization,
what this team is going to do this season.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Okay, Jim Bob Cooter, all right, the Colts last year
situationally a little below average. You're at eighteenth and third
down conversion rate, twenty second in red zone touchdown rate.
You'd like to see those numbers go up. I think
Jim Bob Cooter is he is. He is highly respected
in this building for his offensive mind, for his evaluation
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of players, for his coaching ability. You know, you'd like
to see everyone on that coaching staff kind of work
toge those numbers up. Players got to go execute, certainly,
but I think that's probably a big charge for those guys.
It's okay, we got to be better on third done,
we got to be better in the red zone. Those
are gonna be two critical areas that the Colts need
to improve on an offense.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I want to stay here. I got a question for you, Lara.
Is it tough in your mind? And jj you can
chi him into. Is it tough in your mind for
a Jimbob Cooter right now? Says I've got Anthony Richardson
coming in, but I have another gentleman coming in Daniel Jones,
who we've said as an organization there is a competition.
Does that throw them off a little bit as far
as preparation and things going on? What you want to
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accomplish when OTA's come around into camp with that question mark.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I don't think so, Not for a guy who's as
experienced as as Jimbob is He's navigated situations like this before, right,
JJ Like in terms of this is something that a
lot of teams you know, have done or continue to do.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
He has experience in this.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I think of anything for somebody like Jimbob, like you
embrace the challenge a little bit of working with both
both quarterbacks and you're going to really find out a
lot about the rest of the offense with you know.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
What you see in each of these guys.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I think that he will continue to learn a lot
from getting these guys in the building. And Jim Bob
has proven his ability to you know, adapt and evolve
in tandem with Shane Steike and based on whoever is
under center.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, let's let's keep it moving here. I don't have
anything else to add on that.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
All right, good stuff, good stuff. We're moving on on
the Jays. We're going to kickstart you under stay in
the kicking game really quick.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Here.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Matt Gay, Spencer Schrader right there, there's you know, yeah,
there's competition.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Ulster twentieth in field goal percentage made last year for
the investment they made into Mac Gay that that does
need to be better. Now, he was dealing with some
stuff last years, so hopefully he's he's through all that.
And you know, the big thing last year was the
fifty plus yard field goals were near the bottom of
the league with you know, with with Mattkay, I think
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he I don't have it in front of me. I
think it was like three to nine from fifty plus.
Let me pull that up. But that that's a number
that you know, it does need to be better. And
I think you have a guy who's proven in this
league in Matt Gay, who Yeah, he was three to
nine from fifty plus. So you got a guy who's
proven in this league. I think we'll get back to
being a little more consistent with those kicks, especially being
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more removed from whatever he was dealing with last year.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We're familiar with Schrader. He hasn't made a kick over
fifty yards in the NFL, but I'm sure he'll have
his opportunity somewhere down the line.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Look, look, Mackay, I think Matt Kay is gonna be
his kicker this team this year. Good player, yeah, but
Schrader being there. You like having the secondary guy, a
guy we know he's been around this building. He made
some big kicks for other teams last year, specifically for
the Chiefs in that one game. I think he didn't
need a game winner for the Chiefs or something. So yeah,
I mean, the kicking game's got to be better, but
I think the Colts got the right guys to do it.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
We're moving on the Abcason the Colts offseason l and
it goes to ul leadership. And here's what I want
to bring up. Leadership. We saw it last year at
the end of the season, DeForrest Buckner got up there
with microphone in his face and talked about this year
and talked about the season and talked about the locker room.
I saw a true leader right there in that moment.
Does that continue to keep on? I know it's not
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something that he didn't have before and all of a
sudden he got it. He's always been that quiet type
of leader. But is it more so this year after
what happened last year?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I don't think it's more so on DeForest.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
DeForest just needs to remain as he has as he
has always led to me, it's how is that creating
a ripple effect across the locker room with other guys
stepping up and being even stronger leaders?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You want that type of leadership to be infectious across
the locker room, especially when it is coming from someone
like a DeForest Buckner.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
So, how are the other position groups?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
How are the other areas of this locker room elevating
their leadership to you know what DeForest? So, you know,
boldly stated, and you know, how are they? Accountability is
a huge thing for Shane. He has harped on that
over and over and you want to see that really
resonate with this group. And by bringing in some competition,
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bringing in some outside influences, I do think that you
will see more and more of that.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But yeah, you want to see that.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You think about you lost some leadership too with Ryan
Kelly moving on, so you know who is it that continues?
Quentin Nelson is obviously a lead by example type of guy.
He's a very strong leader in that group. Who are
the other guys now who can level up within that?
You know Jonathan Taylor, a guy who's been a captain,
Michael Pittman who's been a captain, Zaire Kenny, you know,
all of these guys who are considered to be very
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strong leaders. How do they take it up a notch
and also demand that from the rest of their room
as well.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
All Right, Elle, that's for leadership to Forrest Buckner. Your choice, MS,
We're going ad Mitchell or are we gonna go Sharbarius
Ward Mooney?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I wanna go. I'm gonna go ad Mitchell. We already
kind of talked about about Mooney. I thought it was
interesting when I chatted with Daniel Jeremiah at the NFL
combine and I was like, which player on this team
are you most excited to see develop in twenty twenty five?
And the first thing he said is Adie Mitchell. Like
draft people, they still love Adie Mitchell. They still think
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this guy's got a lot in it. And you look
at the film last year. That dude can get open.
He can get open better than a lot of players
in the NFL. He's got to be able to get
open on time. But look, I think in an off
season to kind of digest everything to come back fresh,
I'm still very, very interested in what the cole tabin
(23:16):
Ady Mitchell. And the thing about him is that I
really like is because Alec Pierce ascended last year. You
now don't You're not relying on ad Mitchell right now.
If whatever you get out of him as probably your
fourth receiver is it's not a bonus, it's important. But
if he all of a sudden, if he shows up
and it's like, oh my gosh, this guy really he
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got it, you could have some real, real depth and
competition in that receiver room, and that could be more
of that healthy tension that Chris Ballard was talking about,
Like if you if all of a sudden Ady Mitchell
shows up and it's like, ooh, here we go. We
got a guy here. You can't have four receivers on
the field all the time. You're not going you know,
ten personnel and every single play. So you might have
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that that's gonna l of made everyone else. And we
know Josh Downs is a really good player, you know it.
It's a good player. You know Pierce is a good player.
If you're able to add a fourth in there, watch out.
That group could get real spicy, real fast.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And history has proven this is something that Reggie's really
talked about, like how pivotal a second year is for
a young receiver, right, Like, that's kind of one of
those it's a very it's critical time in terms of
development because of that difficult transition coming out of college,
coming into a new system, you know, adjusting to your quarterback,
adjusting the demands of the league. So that second year
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is one of those that you really see, guys kind
of defined by.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Looking forward to it. Yeah, that year one to year
two development. All right, guys, I'm just gonna bounce all
over here noticeable as our and offensive line. We kind
of covered that. The playoff draw. I'm not staying there.
It's been too long, obviously, the worst drought since nineteen
ninety five for the Colts. Qwenton Nelson, We gave some
love to I was gonna ask you about his whole game.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
He got a cue. I meant he got it.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I guess, like and like, whenever he becomes a Hall
of Fame eligible on day one, do you and I
and do you and I go, oh, do you think
one they'll get in this year? I mean, is that
that type of we're talking?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I mean, he's you gotta he's got to play for longer, right,
But like, look at look at what happened with Zach Martin,
the guy who, by the way, preceded him at Notre Dame,
Zach Martin, the moment he announced his retirement. It's like
that dude's walking into the Hall of Fame on day one.
There should be no debate that Zach Martin's going into
the Hall of Fame immediately.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Quent Nelson keeps this up, four five, eight more whatever I.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Mean, like Indianapolis own Zach Martin, Ye, exactly, Fishers, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
No, Indy, I think he's from Fishing.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
He went, he did go to Shatard, but I believe
he's from Fishers.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We're gonna look up, We're gonna look up.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And right now the yeah, I mean, look, Quent Nelson,
right now, the trajectory he is on is to put
himself into that air. But you know, you can't crown
guys too early. And I think, look, he's he's one
of the best three offensive interior offensive lineman in the NFL,
(25:54):
and he has been since he debuted. But like when
you're talking about Hall of Fame, you got to do
it for like a decade minute to really put yourself
in that count for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Moving on the ab season, the Colts off season, the
running back room, guys, I guess my question to you
is this, are you surprised if they there's three carried?
Do you think you'll they'll carry three running backs are
four number one, and if it's three is it's set
in stone right now with Tyler Goodson, Khalil Herbert and
of course Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think you could add through the draft.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, oh, I definitely. I think you'd add through the draft.
I do, I do. Haven't we heard JJ that this
is there's quite a bit of depth at.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
That position, like an all time running back class, and it's.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Weaker in some other areas, but running back is one
where it's, you know, pretty fruitful. In a day two,
day three scenario, you could still get really quality type
of guys to create some competition within that room. And
also how many you carry. I think it's gonna be
a little dependent on what you do at tight end,
right Like how many tight ends you carry could directly
correlate with how many running backs you carry.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Okay, let's keep moving on. This is a fun one.
We were gonna talk about Chris Ballard's off season would
be the s for shifting gears, but we've already kind
of discuss that. I just want to move on right
now to the t This is gonna be fun. Oh
yard quarterback, what does that look like to you? Obviously
we don't know who the first and second quarterback is,
but I got a good idea. I know the two
guys that are gonna be battling out. But that third
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quarterback you want to start.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm very interested at the Colts carry a third if
they draft someone potentially and say this guy is a
developmental prospect who we want to have in the building.
We want to have him on our team. That that
right there, Like it's not even the close to the
most pressing thing I'm interested in the NFL draft, But
like when we're into our four of Day three, right right,
(27:38):
if the Colts haven't taken a quarterback, and be like, huh, okay,
I guess you know we're gonna roll with ar and
Daniel Jones. But if they have taken a quarterback, it's
gonna be like, okay, they they they might think, we
really like this guy as a developmental prospect. Let's keep
him around, you know, kind of like they did with
Sam Ellinger for four years, where Sam have Jason Bean
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and you do have Jason Bean, no developmental guy, but
you know, the Colts valued Sam Ellenger to the point
where it's like we want to keep him on our
roster for four years because he's you know, he's a
guy we really like having around here. Sam's also still
a free agent, so could something still potentially occur there
later into free agency if you're like, uh, we don't
really like any of these guys in the draft, but
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we really do want to have a third quarterback, could
you explore something there. I don't know that. That's just
a really interesting one to me. And it's a position that,
like you hope never plays right, but is still, like
you like having that presence sometimes of a third quarterback
if it's the right guy.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And conversely to the running back situation, it's not a
very deep quarterback class that we have heard. It's not
quite as strong as maybe we have seen in recent years.
Can you explain a little bit jj how that emergency
QB rule that's might impact what they decide to do
at that position. Because you can carry a third on
the practice squad, correct.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You have to carry that player on your active roster. Okay,
there was almost a change of the practice squad last year.
You can still keep you have to have that guy
in your active roster, but essentially when you have to
make guys inactive on game day, you can designate your
third quarterback as the emergency third quarterback, which means if
your starter gets hurt and your your backup gets hurt,
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then you can bring in your third quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It was the rule that was brought back when the
forty nine ers basically had to play like, yeah, Christian
McCaffrey at quarterback in the NFC Championship a couple of
years ago. Yeah, they were like that close. They were,
you know, that down on quarterbacks. So yeah, I mean
some some teams have carried a third, like the Colts. Yeah,
Others have just gone with two and been like, if
we get down to our third, we're probably like screwed anyway.
(29:40):
So I'm curious how the Colts approach that now with
an opening potentially there.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
All right, we're winding down the ABC's of the Colts
off season. That was the t for third quarterback underappreciated.
I threw up there. We're gonna gloss right over that
voice of Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Is you?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I was gonna say, if you want to throw all yeah,
I'll call a first down at us right now if
you ken If you don't want to understand this offseason.
You got to arrest the boys.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I mean you, you guys just got to join in. Okay,
and that's another Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Colts third down, first down.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yikes, it's the off season for everyone.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Moving on. Here we go, Westfield, Indiana. Oh wait, one
thing you love about Westfield for training? Came the fans?
All right, absolutely, uh fans up there, west.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I thought you were going with the third down call,
is what I thought you were doing, third down, first down.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
But I didn't I did, Oh, I did.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Read the notes. I was just looking at Jeffrey. She's like,
give us a call. So I thought you're like, because
usually that's your big fire up moment, I thought you
were going.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I would like to apologize to Lara Overton right now, though,
because a couple of weeks ago, I went on the
two radio stations in Chicago six seventy in ESPN with
my guys Waddle and Sylvia on ESPN and Lawrence Holmes
on the Score, and they both independently asked me to
please do your call of a dio dangbo sack, And
I mean I bellowed those things out over the airwaves
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in Chicago, and unfortunately Lara's office is two, so I'm
sure Lara is just like typing away and then just.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
A sack by Dio o Dangbo.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I knew exactly what was happening because the thing was
is like I had been in JJ's office and everyone
was profusely texting him for the accurate pronouncer of Dio Dangbo.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
So I was hearing him like break it down.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
So I had a little bit of a little preparation,
you know, for it, but it was kind of it
was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
That's great. Yeah, we do hear the bellowing sounds of
you in your office. Sometimes Lara's not alone and is
the golden voice of Lucas Oil Stadium, Jj Stankowitz, even
he has an off season, like we all do. The
X factor comes up after w We're gonna gloss right
over that. The why is this? We were gonna go
why for tight end, but let's tell me do this
on really quick. The why is for why don't you
(31:49):
join us down at Lucas Oil Stadium for the Colts
Draft party on April the twenty fourth. It's presented by
bud Light. Fans are invited to come to Lucas Oil
Stadium on the twenty fourth, watch the first round of
the NFL Draft. You know we're all gonna be down there.
It's gonna be stuff to give away and everything. Autographs,
current Colts players will be down there, legendary Coats players
from the past will be down there. Fans twenty one
(32:10):
and over and tickets are available at Colts dot com
slash Draft for ten bucks. It's gonna be a fun time.
We end with Z of the alphabet. I just wanted
to throw Zey her Franklin's name in there. Does he
lead the team in tackles in the lou Aumo defense. Yep,
he does. Everything's kind of funneled to forty four, still.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Saying I think he still does. I want to end
on Z in a different note. Okay, Z is the
last letter of the alphabet. Yes it is, And you
teased an announcement this is the last official Colts podcast.
How about that? Look we've got We've got so we've
got some really good stuff coming up on the Colts
podcast network, but we are we're kind of changing up
(32:46):
our format.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You still get the shows, They're still You're still gonna
get the shows.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
You're going to see a lot of Jeffrey, We'll see
you're a lot of me. We're gonna have Lerra, both of.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Them, Matt Taylor, will.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
All all your favorite people. We're also another big change,
by the way, I'm no longer gonna be hosting Instant Reaction.
That'll be Casey Value with Bill Brooks.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You guys know Showcase Case.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh we love case around here, so case is gonna
take over that. And uh, we're gonna have a couple
of new shows that we're going to debut in a
couple of weeks with some big time guests.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
More Colts information always at Colts dot com, at Lara Overton,
on Twitter, x at JJ Stankowitz. Guys, I enjoyed it.
The set's gonna look different next time we all gather
on this set. So I don't know who's getting the couch,
I don't know who's getting the table. Can I can
I take the helmet home?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
And by the way, to everyone, to everyone who has
watched our nonsense or listened to our nonsense for the
last couple of years, like thank you. Yeah, none of
us are going anywhere. We're just changing the format of
what we're doing to try to get a little more
and bang for our boat.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
No better time.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
As the cults have evolved, they're off season, we are
evolving the podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
That is, we are doing it in tandem. I think
what they're doing is a little more important. Then we're
just following the lead though, exactly right.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And we have behind the Colts tonight seven pm.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Job.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I caught a sneak peak of it. It's very good.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Shout out to Colts Productions, Oliver, our crew, Matt Wilkning,
Drew Davidson, everyone who had a hand in executing this
and making it possible.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So much fun. So this will be a.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Look at free agency and then we'll of course kind
of shift into draft mode here and get you those out.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
The great job because you've got to keep those plates
spinning up there, because it's a fine line when you
walk with cameras inside the building, behind the curtain, finding
out the way that the Colts do business like ed NFL.
I mean, it's a tough place.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
It's a testament to Chris Ballard, Shane steik In allowing
us to do this, having the support of it, and
Dave Nickerbocker, our VP of Content and Production, to continuing
this is something that we evolved, right we've been doing
with the next pick. We've taken this to behind the Colts,
so really excited for fans to get another kind of
all access behind the you know, behind the curtain type
(34:59):
of look at this offseasons.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
For you guys to win more awards like you have
before the Beast. That's what it's down to, guys. We
enjoyed it. Thanks for watching, Ava, Thank you again for
all your help behind the camera. Colts dot com has
the latest information everybody watching on the YouTube channel. We
thank you for Lara Overton and JJ Stankovitz. We will
talk to you next week looking a little bit different,
but we'll talk to you.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Next week in two weeks. Ago two weeks, we're gonna
look a little different.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Two weeks will look a little different. Thanks for backing
me up there. Thanks for watching. We'll see that
Welcome to the Official Could Podcast. Jeffrey Borman, JJ Stangelitz.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Lara over Ten is here.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We've got some great announcements coming up down the way.
But we're gonna make those announcements throughout the next couple
of minutes. And what I'm saying is, I'm not making
much sense right now, but you're not follow me here. Okay,
it's off season. You know we're headed into summer right now.
I want to do the ABC's of the Colts off season.
And here's the thing. These ABC's are gonna change when
(00:34):
we get to camp. I may throw an ABC's of
Westfield at you when we get up there. The ABC's
of in season next. I mean, there's a lot, but
right now we're in the off season. So I got
a lot of topics to go over the ABC's of
the Colts offseason, So I'm gonna throw a few to
you if we could keep this thing rolling along.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What do you think I like it? You like that? Yeah,
let's let's rock and roll.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Let's go back to this is like West fifty sixth
Street Elementary.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's it right a right now, and it's We're gonna
have a few trip in here. Somewhere, but just let
me go. We start with the ABCS. Of course we
start with a Lera Overton. Let me start with you
the big A. JJ talked about it yesterday when we
talked about this little idea, I said, with the ABC's
you have to start off with a with the quarterback
when his name is Anthony Richardson. The ABC's of Anthony
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Richardson off season to you.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
To me, I think it's you know, how he responds
to having some competition with Daniel Jones, and from everything
that we have heard throughout, you know, the period of
time in which he's been training down on Florida and
all of that, is that he's just continued to lock in.
And you know understand in talking with coach Sdike and
Chris Ballard what the expectation is of him. And I
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wholly expect that Anthony to thrive on having more competition
within that quarterback room. He's such a competitive guy, He's
a lifelong athlete. This is a situation in which I
think you will really see growth from Anthony Richardson. And
I thought although it was a slim, you know, window
of time in which he was compete against Gardner Minshew
to earn the starting job his rookie season. I thought
(02:03):
he benefited from that, and I expect very much of
the same this year. And I do think that it
benefits this offense that Daniel Jones. One thing we've talked
with Chris Ballard about as we prepared for Behind the
Colts Free Agency episode that comes out on Tuesday night.
You know, he talked about that Daniel's skill set will
compliment this offense. Its offense not going to be a
completely like revamp of the offense, you know, when you
(02:26):
see maybe Daniel coming in, and I think that's going
to benefit all around.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What I'm curious about is just how good Because you're right, Lara,
everything we've heard about Anthony Richardson so far has been
that he has taken to this competition, he's he's invested
in it, he's accepted it. How does that play out
when we get totas? How does that play out when
we get to those practices that otherwise you know, charting
them can be a bit of a mirage sometimes because
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you know you're working on installs, basic installs. But how
does he look? How does he how does he look
in OTAs? When you start seeing it on the grass.
That's going to be a huge question we are going
to get answered over the next couple of months.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I can't wait for that too, because like as we
speak right now, I think he's sowing the ball somewhere
in Florida, like as we speak now, working hard on
this thing. And I'm going to get up because it's
such an important topic in the NFL's quarterback Do you
how do you notice a difference in him in the
second ota practice JJ that you're going to watch it
a couple of months from now, a couple of weeks.
What difference do you notice?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I think it's not about one singular practice. I think
it's about the scope of it, of all the practices
that we'll get to see going into that veteran mini camp. Yeah,
how does he just take take it into totality? Not
in a singular day. And I don't know. It's like
it's one of those things where I think we'll know
it when we see it, where it's not gonna be Oh,
he completed sixty eight percent of his passes during OTAs
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he's made a stride. It's just like, how does it look? Yeah,
you know, eye test is like a very like nebulous thing.
But I think it's I think we're gonna kind of
know just from the eye test.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And really quickly to follow up on that.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I think it's where you see, you know, you get
the highs, you get like the jaw dropping type of plays,
but you want to see, you know, the the lower
end be higher, right, you want do you want the
ceiling in the floor to be a little closer together? Right,
Not to have as drastic of a roller coaster of
highs and lows. It's more of a highs and mediums
right where you obviously are going to have, you know,
(04:19):
days where throws are off for their incompletions, whatever, but
you know, not so far off from what we have
seen in previous opportunities.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I do you think seven on seven might be a
dif a decent window into this, because even last year
during training camp, I think he struggled a little bit
during some of those seven on seven periods. The ball
is on the ground quite a bit, and those are
periods where you got to be in rhythm and you
gotta be accurate because there's no pass rush, there's no
you know, if you escape the pocket in a seven
on seven, it's kind of like, well, everything was covered
(04:46):
and there was nothing open there. So is he thrown
it on time? Is he thrown it accurately? In seven
on seven? Could be something to look for there.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Way we get a lot to look for. We're going
to get through the ABC's of this colts off.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You like BC and D are kind of a cluster altogether.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, let's do him together.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Tell me about it. But I got to stay out
A for one second, Give me one second for AA
also stands for Ava who helps us out week in
and week out behind the camera. That Ava. It is
the last show of you, and we want to thank
you here while we're live with all of our audience,
and JJ and Larren say thank you from the bottom
of our hearts.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You've done a great job. Absolutely, Oh that was nice
you could you sort of hear that?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, And you're right, we kind of clumped these in.
So let's do that B C and D. We're talking
about I threw ballhawk defense in there because of lou
Ana Rumo and his defense and what we got obviously
with cam Binham coming in here, Savarius Ward, competition and death.
So if we want to let's go B C and
D ball hawking competition depth.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So ball hawking, the Colts were seventh and takeaways last
year Nice tied with the Cincinnati Bengals with twenty five
takeaways interceptions though were Cults were fifth in interceptions. The
Bengals were eighth in interceptions. So, like this defense does
have a little bit of that in them. I don't
(06:00):
I don't know if necessarily you're gonna have more this year.
It's kind of hard to bet on, like, oh, we're
gonna get We're gonna increase our takeaways. Twenty five is
a lot of takeaways that the Colts had last year.
But can you just more consistently disrupt plays? More sacks
is gonna be big, More past deflections, fewer open receivers.
(06:22):
Like when lou An Rumo, you know, was on the
film breakdown I did with him and he talked about
playing tight coverage. That right there that you know, that's
gonna be a big thing that the Colts are gonna
be doing more of. Can they just be a little
bit more impactful in disrupting things while still being a
defense that takes the ball away like they were last year.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
And then with that, when you get the takeaways, do
something with them. I think that you far too often
last season were not complimentary when your defense took the
ball away in capitalizing on the opportunities that they gave you.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, the problem here is the Colts were seventh in
takeaways and nineteenth in turnover differential, so they're still at
minus four. Because you're right, Lara, they would take the
ball away and then they would just give it right back.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Is that guy? Kind of a silly question, but let's
stay right there. We're talking ballhawk defense depth that all
fits into there is Sharvarius Ward. Is Moody one of
those guys where I say, hey, we're not throwing to
his side of the field. Is he that type of
player that that he can have that sort of resume
with opposing offensive coordinators?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I hope that's the hope that he he, you know,
is that guy for this defense? And I asked him
when I sat down with him, like how much he
takes pride in they didn't throw my way? And that
means he doesn't get interceptions, he doesn't get past deflections.
But if he's targeted twice a game, that's not because
teams are like we're you know, that's because teams are
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like we don't want to throw near Tarvarius Ward.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Kenny Morgant's better, right, Kenny Morgan got better really quick
like that. All great players, but somebody surrounding. And when
we're talking about depth, Kenny Moore, Cam bind him on
a backside from him wherever Kenny saw Oh yeah, with Sharvarius.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I have talked with Kenny multiple times about this and
how excited he is to have these complimentary pieces, you know,
within the secondary, especially from you know, we have seen
this group be at their best when there's just so
much trust and just the ability for like the non
verbal cues between you know, Kenny and the rest of
that secondary and how they have all played so well
(08:17):
in compliment to each other. And I think that Sharvarius
and Cam are both testaments to that. I love the
confidence that each of them come in with and they're
very different in the confidence you know that they bring.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
That is really going to elevate this group.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I also think it's gonna be really good for guys
like you know, Juju Brents and Jalen Jones, to have
a Nick Cross, to have you know, leadership, to have
experience like that in the room, to have those guys
to learn from and help elevate their game. You know,
I think Kenny is gonna be Kenny. He plays at
that level. He's gonna bring what he gives you each
and every week. I think I really look for the
(08:55):
rest of that room, speaking to the competition, the depth
to level up.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So I throw a phone, want to we'll move on.
This is BC and d all kind of jumbled together
in the Colts offseason. ABCS does a rookie offensive lineman
compete for a starting position this upcoming season?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's a good one the rookie, Yes, okay, I think
so I I you look at the way the Colts
line is made up right now, or you've got Bernard Rayman,
Quintin Nelson, Braden Smith was locked in, locked in, and
then you've got Tanner Bordellini probably at center. You're probably
looking at Mackensalves is a right guard right now. But
(09:34):
there is a a potential that you might look at
Mackensalves and say, this guy this we need, we need
that tackle depth. He can provide that. Maybe we we
have him battle it out with someone at right guard
who we draft on day one, Day two, even Day
three and just kind of see where it goes. Maybe
it becomes Tanner BORDERLINI as a competition at center. That
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that's a real I think that is def only on
the table here for this.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I think, so what do you think the way that
Chris Ballard goes and he says, hey, do you think.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Anything's on the table? I think we keep them moving,
let's go keeping, let's go.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, here we go. Let's go to e for explosive plays.
All right, we have twenty or more plus yards. Colt said,
sixty nine of them last year. Is that they were
tied for eighth with that, by the way, and that
was with ar missing six games. Is it the same
stats this year? Ors?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, I think you got you gotta be better, right,
you gotta be better in that area?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
For eight?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Eighth is good. But the problem is if you're tied
for eighth, and then the efficiency of your offense is
maybe not where not not top ten. If you're not
going to be as efficient as an offense, you need
to be like top five in explosive plays. I'd like
to see. I'd like to see that number either stay
the same or go up. But mostly I want to
see the efficient plays go up the you get you know,
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it's boring, but you get five yards on first down
because you completed a pass or you know, you had
a run that went for that. Those are the plays
that are going to help your offense out almost more
than the explosives. I think the explosives are great, but
sixty nine over the course of a seventeen game season
is what like for a game if you can get
if you can up the efficient plays so you have
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I don't know, I'm just throwing a number out twenty
efficient plays in a game, maybe more that will help
those explosive plays be more impactful.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think you too.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
You've got to look at the talent with which you
have and the opportunity for explosive plays when you have
weapons like a Jonathan Taylor and Alec Pierce that we
have seen, and then you know you're gonna bolster maybe
some of that within the draft as well. Then you
also think about Anthony Richardson at quarterback. Looking at the
pieces that you have, you certainly want to capitalize on
the opportunity that you have for those explosive plays, but
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then also be you know, better imbalance, you know with
some of the plays that you have. You know, we
talk about you know, the mid range games, so to speak,
and you're certainly going to see that improve from what
we saw last year. We talked about, you know, just
being more you know, complimentary. It was a little bit
feaster famine last year in certain areas of the offense,
so you want to see that a little more even
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distribution across that. But yeah, I think from the explosive
play standpoint, you know, given the you know, explosiveness that
you saw last season with you know, a guy like
Alex Pearce, you know what JT can give you, especially
if he's on the field, and teams have to account
for the thread of AR and JT together, that's going
to create great opportunities for you to capitalize on those
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type of situations.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I like clumping in some letters. We're going to continue
to do that. Finish and fast I put off for
f growth and hopeful. Finish and fast. I'm just gonna
skip right over right there, growth and hopeful. If you
guys could give me who are you looking forward to
watching in camp that you're gonna watch that growth. You're
going to see it from either year one to two
or year.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Two to twe I'm actually gonna go finishing fast, really quickly,
because one of the things that this team has certainly
struggled to do is close out games, especially you know,
fourth quarter. Shane has not shied away from that, and
I do think that is where you look to the
experience within your locker room to help elevate that guy.
Who have We've talked so much about the guys coming
in the playoff experience that they've brought in being part
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of winning teams. I think that will be a great
influence on how this team prepares to close out games
much more effectively than we have seen in the past.
Growth and hopeful, I'm really excited for Josh Downs. That's
a guy who last year obviously had a slower start
to the season because of the injury, you know, given
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his being able to have healthy offseason, healthy all through
training camp, to me, he is probably one of the
biggest factors in this offensive success. I think he's one
of Ar's more reliable targets. We know that those two
have a great rapport and I think that the growth
of Josh Downs will be mirrored in the growth of
Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
For my growth and hopeful, I'm going how the rush
and coverage can work together on defense, where if you're
going to play more tight coverage, maybe that leads to
a quarterback hitching a little bit more. Maybe, you know,
LouAnn Arumo's kind of this this mad scientist back there
with his coverages. Maybe that gets a quarterback to hitch
a little bit more coverage helping out the rush. Because
last year, how many times did we see Laatu Latu
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beat the guy in front of him and the balls
whizzing by his ear? That right there, for a guy
like Latu could lead to his sack production going up.
It could lead to the sack production for a quity
pay to Forrest Buckner, you know, getting Samson ebicom back.
Maybe all of a sudden, the coverage helps out the
rush that the colts have invested so much into. Now
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they've invested a lot into the coverage with Ward and
with Baynum, and then even lou An Aruma. I would
throw in there, he's you're investing in coverage by hiring him.
Maybe that helps out all the investments you made in
your defensive line.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
All right, Bernie Ryman, I'm looking at you. A little growth,
a little hopeful, I know, that's crazy. He's been playing. Girl.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I think he's already pretty good.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I know, but I'm saying, like this Pro Bowl shit,
all right, that's what I'm looking for out of Bernie.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Do you kind of feel like that trajectory is certainly
within the realm of Foster and even.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I even I also want to say this, even if
he doesn't, even if he just stays.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Where he's it's a really to It's tough, right, Like,
just in terms of how battle shakes out.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Having a good left tackle is really hard to find
in the NFL, and having a good left tackle you
took in the third round is even harder to find.
And the Colts got it with Bernie Ryman. So the
value that he brings to this team as just a
good player, like baseline, he can get better. I absolutely
think he can get better, But sometimes we need to
temper our expectations and be like, look, he's a good
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player who you know is probably gonna be part of
this offensive line for a long time, and that's fine.
That's good, and you want good players on that line,
and Bernard Ryan's a good player.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I feel like that's what you saw with the Anthony
Castanzo for so long.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, like whenever it was a pro bowler, but he
was a good player.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Oh and like highly respected across the league, but like it,
he was what he was. He great like he didn't
need the accolades to define who he was. Right and
everyone in this organization from the fan base, highly valued
what he gave you week in week out, regardless of
maybe how everyone else voted him from the popularity contest.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That is the Pro Bowl, right, I would agree with
that at learra Olverton, at jjink. If it's if you
like us, let us know. If you don't like us,
let us know. Ivery want These are the ABC's of
the off season. We want to continue to move along.
Right here, guys, I'm gonna throw it to Lara here,
you and and I or you want a Jay, I'm
going I International obviously the Berlin game or Jay Jim
Bob Cooter the off season for the Colts offensive coordinator,
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give me International? Okay, what do you like?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
This is a huge opportunity for the Colts because you
are hosting the game internationally. This is different than when
you went to Frankfurt two years ago. This is the
opportunity to continue to cultivate a huge fan base and
to engage with a very passionate base of fans that
we have seen in Germany really across Europe in general.
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And when we were all over there, when we were
in Frankfurt, we saw how much that you know, enthusiasm
was there. I think that is going to be you know, surpassed.
Even so when you go to Berlin with all the
activation that there is the way that you know, Bjorn Varner,
Bjorn Warner has like continued to kind of aggregate a
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fan base and engage with fans over there. That's one
thing for me that I think is going to be
really intriguing and I cannot wait to see with the
investment being made over there, how the Colts fan base
in Berlin just continues to go. Because it's a very
sports centric, sports passionate area, you know, steeped in history
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that I think really aligns well with this team, this organization,
what this team is going to do this season.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Okay, Jim Bob Cooter, all right, the Colts last year
situationally a little below average. You're at eighteenth and third
down conversion rate, twenty second in red zone touchdown rate.
You'd like to see those numbers go up. I think
Jim Bob Cooter is he is. He is highly respected
in this building for his offensive mind, for his evaluation
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of players, for his coaching ability. You know, you'd like
to see everyone on that coaching staff kind of work
toge those numbers up. Players got to go execute, certainly,
but I think that's probably a big charge for those guys.
It's okay, we got to be better on third done,
we got to be better in the red zone. Those
are gonna be two critical areas that the Colts need
to improve on an offense.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I want to stay here. I got a question for you, Lara.
Is it tough in your mind? And jj you can
chi him into. Is it tough in your mind for
a Jimbob Cooter right now? Says I've got Anthony Richardson
coming in, but I have another gentleman coming in Daniel Jones,
who we've said as an organization there is a competition.
Does that throw them off a little bit as far
as preparation and things going on? What you want to
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accomplish when OTA's come around into camp with that question mark.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I don't think so, Not for a guy who's as
experienced as as Jimbob is He's navigated situations like this before, right,
JJ Like in terms of this is something that a
lot of teams you know, have done or continue to do.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
He has experience in this.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I think of anything for somebody like Jimbob, like you
embrace the challenge a little bit of working with both
both quarterbacks and you're going to really find out a
lot about the rest of the offense with you know.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
What you see in each of these guys.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I think that he will continue to learn a lot
from getting these guys in the building. And Jim Bob
has proven his ability to you know, adapt and evolve
in tandem with Shane Steike and based on whoever is
under center.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, let's let's keep it moving here. I don't have
anything else to add on that.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
All right, good stuff, good stuff. We're moving on on
the Jays. We're going to kickstart you under stay in
the kicking game really quick.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Here.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Matt Gay, Spencer Schrader right there, there's you know, yeah,
there's competition.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Ulster twentieth in field goal percentage made last year for
the investment they made into Mac Gay that that does
need to be better. Now, he was dealing with some
stuff last years, so hopefully he's he's through all that.
And you know, the big thing last year was the
fifty plus yard field goals were near the bottom of
the league with you know, with with Mattkay, I think
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he I don't have it in front of me. I
think it was like three to nine from fifty plus.
Let me pull that up. But that that's a number
that you know, it does need to be better. And
I think you have a guy who's proven in this
league in Matt Gay, who Yeah, he was three to
nine from fifty plus. So you got a guy who's
proven in this league. I think we'll get back to
being a little more consistent with those kicks, especially being
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more removed from whatever he was dealing with last year.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We're familiar with Schrader. He hasn't made a kick over
fifty yards in the NFL, but I'm sure he'll have
his opportunity somewhere down the line.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Look, look, Mackay, I think Matt Kay is gonna be
his kicker this team this year. Good player, yeah, but
Schrader being there. You like having the secondary guy, a
guy we know he's been around this building. He made
some big kicks for other teams last year, specifically for
the Chiefs in that one game. I think he didn't
need a game winner for the Chiefs or something. So yeah,
I mean, the kicking game's got to be better, but
I think the Colts got the right guys to do it.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
We're moving on the Abcason the Colts offseason l and
it goes to ul leadership. And here's what I want
to bring up. Leadership. We saw it last year at
the end of the season, DeForrest Buckner got up there
with microphone in his face and talked about this year
and talked about the season and talked about the locker room.
I saw a true leader right there in that moment.
Does that continue to keep on? I know it's not
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something that he didn't have before and all of a
sudden he got it. He's always been that quiet type
of leader. But is it more so this year after
what happened last year?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I don't think it's more so on DeForest.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
DeForest just needs to remain as he has as he
has always led to me, it's how is that creating
a ripple effect across the locker room with other guys
stepping up and being even stronger leaders?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You want that type of leadership to be infectious across
the locker room, especially when it is coming from someone
like a DeForest Buckner.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
So, how are the other position groups?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
How are the other areas of this locker room elevating
their leadership to you know what DeForest? So, you know,
boldly stated, and you know, how are they? Accountability is
a huge thing for Shane. He has harped on that
over and over and you want to see that really
resonate with this group. And by bringing in some competition,
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bringing in some outside influences, I do think that you
will see more and more of that.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But yeah, you want to see that.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You think about you lost some leadership too with Ryan
Kelly moving on, so you know who is it that continues?
Quentin Nelson is obviously a lead by example type of guy.
He's a very strong leader in that group. Who are
the other guys now who can level up within that?
You know Jonathan Taylor, a guy who's been a captain,
Michael Pittman who's been a captain, Zaire Kenny, you know,
all of these guys who are considered to be very
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strong leaders. How do they take it up a notch
and also demand that from the rest of their room
as well.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
All Right, Elle, that's for leadership to Forrest Buckner. Your choice, MS,
We're going ad Mitchell or are we gonna go Sharbarius
Ward Mooney?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I wanna go. I'm gonna go ad Mitchell. We already
kind of talked about about Mooney. I thought it was
interesting when I chatted with Daniel Jeremiah at the NFL
combine and I was like, which player on this team
are you most excited to see develop in twenty twenty five?
And the first thing he said is Adie Mitchell. Like
draft people, they still love Adie Mitchell. They still think
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this guy's got a lot in it. And you look
at the film last year. That dude can get open.
He can get open better than a lot of players
in the NFL. He's got to be able to get
open on time. But look, I think in an off
season to kind of digest everything to come back fresh,
I'm still very, very interested in what the cole tabin
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Ady Mitchell. And the thing about him is that I
really like is because Alec Pierce ascended last year. You
now don't You're not relying on ad Mitchell right now.
If whatever you get out of him as probably your
fourth receiver is it's not a bonus, it's important. But
if he all of a sudden, if he shows up
and it's like, oh my gosh, this guy really he
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got it, you could have some real, real depth and
competition in that receiver room, and that could be more
of that healthy tension that Chris Ballard was talking about,
Like if you if all of a sudden Ady Mitchell
shows up and it's like, ooh, here we go. We
got a guy here. You can't have four receivers on
the field all the time. You're not going you know,
ten personnel and every single play. So you might have
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that that's gonna l of made everyone else. And we
know Josh Downs is a really good player, you know it.
It's a good player. You know Pierce is a good player.
If you're able to add a fourth in there, watch out.
That group could get real spicy, real fast.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And history has proven this is something that Reggie's really
talked about, like how pivotal a second year is for
a young receiver, right, Like, that's kind of one of
those it's a very it's critical time in terms of
development because of that difficult transition coming out of college,
coming into a new system, you know, adjusting to your quarterback,
adjusting the demands of the league. So that second year
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is one of those that you really see, guys kind
of defined by.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Looking forward to it. Yeah, that year one to year
two development. All right, guys, I'm just gonna bounce all
over here noticeable as our and offensive line. We kind
of covered that. The playoff draw. I'm not staying there.
It's been too long, obviously, the worst drought since nineteen
ninety five for the Colts. Qwenton Nelson, We gave some
love to I was gonna ask you about his whole game.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
He got a cue. I meant he got it.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I guess, like and like, whenever he becomes a Hall
of Fame eligible on day one, do you and I
and do you and I go, oh, do you think
one they'll get in this year? I mean, is that
that type of we're talking?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I mean, he's you gotta he's got to play for longer, right,
But like, look at look at what happened with Zach Martin,
the guy who, by the way, preceded him at Notre Dame,
Zach Martin, the moment he announced his retirement. It's like
that dude's walking into the Hall of Fame on day one.
There should be no debate that Zach Martin's going into
the Hall of Fame immediately.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Quent Nelson keeps this up, four five, eight more whatever I.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Mean, like Indianapolis own Zach Martin, Ye, exactly, Fishers, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
No, Indy, I think he's from Fishing.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
He went, he did go to Shatard, but I believe
he's from Fishers.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We're gonna look up, We're gonna look up.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And right now the yeah, I mean, look, Quent Nelson,
right now, the trajectory he is on is to put
himself into that air. But you know, you can't crown
guys too early. And I think, look, he's he's one
of the best three offensive interior offensive lineman in the NFL,
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and he has been since he debuted. But like when
you're talking about Hall of Fame, you got to do
it for like a decade minute to really put yourself
in that count for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Moving on the ab season, the Colts off season, the
running back room, guys, I guess my question to you
is this, are you surprised if they there's three carried?
Do you think you'll they'll carry three running backs are
four number one, and if it's three is it's set
in stone right now with Tyler Goodson, Khalil Herbert and
of course Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think you could add through the draft.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, oh, I definitely. I think you'd add through the draft.
I do, I do. Haven't we heard JJ that this
is there's quite a bit of depth at.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
That position, like an all time running back class, and it's.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Weaker in some other areas, but running back is one
where it's, you know, pretty fruitful. In a day two,
day three scenario, you could still get really quality type
of guys to create some competition within that room. And
also how many you carry. I think it's gonna be
a little dependent on what you do at tight end,
right Like how many tight ends you carry could directly
correlate with how many running backs you carry.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Okay, let's keep moving on. This is a fun one.
We were gonna talk about Chris Ballard's off season would
be the s for shifting gears, but we've already kind
of discuss that. I just want to move on right
now to the t This is gonna be fun. Oh
yard quarterback, what does that look like to you? Obviously
we don't know who the first and second quarterback is,
but I got a good idea. I know the two
guys that are gonna be battling out. But that third
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quarterback you want to start.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm very interested at the Colts carry a third if
they draft someone potentially and say this guy is a
developmental prospect who we want to have in the building.
We want to have him on our team. That that
right there, Like it's not even the close to the
most pressing thing I'm interested in the NFL draft, But
like when we're into our four of Day three, right right,
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if the Colts haven't taken a quarterback, and be like, huh, okay,
I guess you know we're gonna roll with ar and
Daniel Jones. But if they have taken a quarterback, it's
gonna be like, okay, they they they might think, we
really like this guy as a developmental prospect. Let's keep
him around, you know, kind of like they did with
Sam Ellinger for four years, where Sam have Jason Bean
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and you do have Jason Bean, no developmental guy, but
you know, the Colts valued Sam Ellenger to the point
where it's like we want to keep him on our
roster for four years because he's you know, he's a
guy we really like having around here. Sam's also still
a free agent, so could something still potentially occur there
later into free agency if you're like, uh, we don't
really like any of these guys in the draft, but
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we really do want to have a third quarterback, could
you explore something there. I don't know that. That's just
a really interesting one to me. And it's a position that,
like you hope never plays right, but is still, like
you like having that presence sometimes of a third quarterback
if it's the right guy.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
And conversely to the running back situation, it's not a
very deep quarterback class that we have heard. It's not
quite as strong as maybe we have seen in recent years.
Can you explain a little bit jj how that emergency
QB rule that's might impact what they decide to do
at that position. Because you can carry a third on
the practice squad, correct.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You have to carry that player on your active roster. Okay,
there was almost a change of the practice squad last year.
You can still keep you have to have that guy
in your active roster, but essentially when you have to
make guys inactive on game day, you can designate your
third quarterback as the emergency third quarterback, which means if
your starter gets hurt and your your backup gets hurt,
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then you can bring in your third quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It was the rule that was brought back when the
forty nine ers basically had to play like, yeah, Christian
McCaffrey at quarterback in the NFC Championship a couple of
years ago. Yeah, they were like that close. They were,
you know, that down on quarterbacks. So yeah, I mean
some some teams have carried a third, like the Colts. Yeah,
Others have just gone with two and been like, if
we get down to our third, we're probably like screwed anyway.
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So I'm curious how the Colts approach that now with
an opening potentially there.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
All right, we're winding down the ABC's of the Colts
off season. That was the t for third quarterback underappreciated.
I threw up there. We're gonna gloss right over that
voice of Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Is you?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I was gonna say, if you want to throw all yeah,
I'll call a first down at us right now if
you ken If you don't want to understand this offseason.
You got to arrest the boys.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I mean you, you guys just got to join in. Okay,
and that's another Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Colts third down, first down.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yikes, it's the off season for everyone.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Moving on. Here we go, Westfield, Indiana. Oh wait, one
thing you love about Westfield for training? Came the fans?
All right, absolutely, uh fans up there, west.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I thought you were going with the third down call,
is what I thought you were doing, third down, first down.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
But I didn't I did, Oh, I did.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Read the notes. I was just looking at Jeffrey. She's like,
give us a call. So I thought you're like, because
usually that's your big fire up moment, I thought you
were going.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I would like to apologize to Lara Overton right now, though,
because a couple of weeks ago, I went on the
two radio stations in Chicago six seventy in ESPN with
my guys Waddle and Sylvia on ESPN and Lawrence Holmes
on the Score, and they both independently asked me to
please do your call of a dio dangbo sack, And
I mean I bellowed those things out over the airwaves
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in Chicago, and unfortunately Lara's office is two, so I'm
sure Lara is just like typing away and then just.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
A sack by Dio o Dangbo.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I knew exactly what was happening because the thing was
is like I had been in JJ's office and everyone
was profusely texting him for the accurate pronouncer of Dio Dangbo.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
So I was hearing him like break it down.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
So I had a little bit of a little preparation,
you know, for it, but it was kind of it
was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
That's great. Yeah, we do hear the bellowing sounds of
you in your office. Sometimes Lara's not alone and is
the golden voice of Lucas Oil Stadium, Jj Stankowitz, even
he has an off season, like we all do. The
X factor comes up after w We're gonna gloss right
over that. The why is this? We were gonna go
why for tight end, but let's tell me do this
on really quick. The why is for why don't you
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join us down at Lucas Oil Stadium for the Colts
Draft party on April the twenty fourth. It's presented by
bud Light. Fans are invited to come to Lucas Oil
Stadium on the twenty fourth, watch the first round of
the NFL Draft. You know we're all gonna be down there.
It's gonna be stuff to give away and everything. Autographs,
current Colts players will be down there, legendary Coats players
from the past will be down there. Fans twenty one
(32:10):
and over and tickets are available at Colts dot com
slash Draft for ten bucks. It's gonna be a fun time.
We end with Z of the alphabet. I just wanted
to throw Zey her Franklin's name in there. Does he
lead the team in tackles in the lou Aumo defense. Yep,
he does. Everything's kind of funneled to forty four, still.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Saying I think he still does. I want to end
on Z in a different note. Okay, Z is the
last letter of the alphabet. Yes it is, And you
teased an announcement this is the last official Colts podcast.
How about that? Look we've got We've got so we've
got some really good stuff coming up on the Colts
podcast network, but we are we're kind of changing up
(32:46):
our format.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You still get the shows, They're still You're still gonna
get the shows.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
You're going to see a lot of Jeffrey, We'll see
you're a lot of me. We're gonna have Lerra, both of.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Them, Matt Taylor, will.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
All all your favorite people. We're also another big change,
by the way, I'm no longer gonna be hosting Instant Reaction.
That'll be Casey Value with Bill Brooks.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You guys know Showcase Case.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh we love case around here, so case is gonna
take over that. And uh, we're gonna have a couple
of new shows that we're going to debut in a
couple of weeks with some big time guests.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
More Colts information always at Colts dot com, at Lara Overton,
on Twitter, x at JJ Stankowitz. Guys, I enjoyed it.
The set's gonna look different next time we all gather
on this set. So I don't know who's getting the couch,
I don't know who's getting the table. Can I can
I take the helmet home?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
And by the way, to everyone, to everyone who has
watched our nonsense or listened to our nonsense for the
last couple of years, like thank you. Yeah, none of
us are going anywhere. We're just changing the format of
what we're doing to try to get a little more
and bang for our boat.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
No better time.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
As the cults have evolved, they're off season, we are
evolving the podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
That is, we are doing it in tandem. I think
what they're doing is a little more important. Then we're
just following the lead though, exactly right.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And we have behind the Colts tonight seven pm.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Job.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I caught a sneak peak of it. It's very good.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Shout out to Colts Productions, Oliver, our crew, Matt Wilkning,
Drew Davidson, everyone who had a hand in executing this
and making it possible.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So much fun. So this will be a.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Look at free agency and then we'll of course kind
of shift into draft mode here and get you those out.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
The great job because you've got to keep those plates
spinning up there, because it's a fine line when you
walk with cameras inside the building, behind the curtain, finding
out the way that the Colts do business like ed NFL.
I mean, it's a tough place.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
It's a testament to Chris Ballard, Shane steik In allowing
us to do this, having the support of it, and
Dave Nickerbocker, our VP of Content and Production, to continuing
this is something that we evolved, right we've been doing
with the next pick. We've taken this to behind the Colts,
so really excited for fans to get another kind of
all access behind the you know, behind the curtain type
(34:59):
of look at this offseasons.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
For you guys to win more awards like you have
before the Beast. That's what it's down to, guys. We
enjoyed it. Thanks for watching, Ava, Thank you again for
all your help behind the camera. Colts dot com has
the latest information everybody watching on the YouTube channel. We
thank you for Lara Overton and JJ Stankovitz. We will
talk to you next week looking a little bit different,
but we'll talk to you.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Next week in two weeks. Ago two weeks, we're gonna
look a little different.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Two weeks will look a little different. Thanks for backing
me up there. Thanks for watching. We'll see that
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