July 19, 2025 • 28 mins
The Last Word, the Colts' offseason radio show, returns this week with Matt Taylor and Casey Vallier as they continue their “Burning Questions” series, this time diving into the team’s linebacking corps and secondary ahead of next week’s training camp. The guys break down the depth behind Zaire Franklin at linebacker and evaluate the Colts’ revamped defensive back room, featuring new additions Charvarius Ward and Cam Bynum. To wrap up the show, Matt and Casey share their boldest hot takes heading into camp.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The NFL never sleeps. The roster is ever evolving, and it's.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All about finding the edge. This is the last word
the off season home of the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Oh you know what time it is, tgif happy Friday
evening to you. Hopefully your weekend is starting and if
it has, thanks for getting in some time with us
tonight radio wise, Matt Taylor here with Casey Value. This
is the last word the Colts offseason radio home and
the last local show of the week. Here on ninety
three five one oh seven five the fan were inside
(00:41):
the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio tonight. Casey, how
was your week man? It was great.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It was the uh, you know, the final whatever you
want to call it, before the push of camp. Gotta
get your lawn mode one last time, Hurrah. We talked
about it earlier this week. I think you went to
the dent, I got an oil.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Change in the car.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Life stuff because now all of a sudden free time
in quotes, but the free time that we did have
kind of dwindles away here now.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So what are you even Reid doing tonight? Because I mean,
I know he's losing his margarita buddy for the next
couple of weekends. I'll tell you this read.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So, my buddy Reid, he works at Round Tripper up
in Carmel, and they had tryouts all week. So I
haven't heard from him because he's been essentially working like
nine am till about eight thirty at night.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, but reads one of those guys that just surfaces, right,
isn't he.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So I'm assuming that there's a good chance after this
show I'm going to get the text like, hey, man,
I need a mark, and I'll be you know, I'll
be right there.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I've had a day I need to read mark right now,
any marg I need one made specifically by Margarita man Reid.
Does he know how often he's referred to on this program.
I have mentioned it to him.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I said, you're kind of a staple on thisra now, yeah, yeah,
all right, So the Colts ask said on their final
week of summer break here before training camp starts.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Now the last couple of weeks here on this program,
we've been breaking down each position group here in the summertime,
leading you up to the start of the season. On
previous episodes, we've talked all about quarterbacks and running backs
and whiteouts, and tight ends O line d Line last week.
Catch those shows on demand on the Colts podcast channels
to get you revved up for the start of training camp.
(02:21):
By the way, report Day is coming up on Tuesday.
First practice next week for the Colts is Wednesday. But
on tonight's show, we're taking a deep dive into linebacker
and in the secondary. But, like we said, Case thirteen
practices all open to the public for the Colts coming up.
There's gonna be that joint practice with the Packers. There's
gonna be Colt City is open like always, that's open
(02:44):
to kids and families. There's gonna be the night practice
coming up on July thirty first. That's the new thing
this year, first time the Colts are practicing under the
lights Thursday, July thirty first, eight to ten. There's gonna
be a fireworks show after that as well, which you
and I put the soundtrack together for. Yeah, that was
an experience that was I've learned a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'm not real hip on my new music, so I
learned a lot about what is well if.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You're not right all right, So I leaned on you
for a lot. But I think between the two of
us we kind of put our heads together, and we
think we did right by a lot of people all over. Yeah,
that's that's gonna be way you like, you'll you'll enjoy
it for sure. Head to Colts dot com slash camp
to claim your tickets and there you can see a
full rundown of the calendar and the training camp dates
(03:29):
real quick before we get into the burning questions linebacker
and secondary case, what are you what are you most
excited for when it comes to camp. We've talked at
nauseum about everything in the summertime because we're in this
dead period, if you will, in terms of content. But
as it relates to Wednesday, when the Colts get on
the field, case, where are your eyeballs going first?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Probably popular just to say quarterback. We have talked about
the competition up to this point, but now we actually
get to see all of that come to fruition. So
that's probably just us, but everybody everybody fans too, and
there's gonna be daily reporting.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
On that, and that's the thing you're gonna know.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You're gonna have a really good idea on where the
Colts are gonna turn, which that's kind of the benefit
of the Colts having these open practices to the fans
that they get to see what their team is gonna
look like as they head into the season.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But then, you know, when you think about just what
I'm excited most about camp, you talk about that night practice.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm really looking
forward to.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That for sure. For sure. Again, that's July thirty. First,
that's a Thursday night, So that could be a good
weekend starter. H all right, to catch my drift thirsty Thursday.
All right, let's talk about linebacker burning questions here, the
hottest question surrounding this position for the Colts new defense,
new scheme Louanna arumos here now case, I think first
(04:43):
and foremost on the front burner here with the linebackers
has to be will Zaire Franklin and Jalen Carlis. Will
they be ready to go at the start of training camp.
Both guys are coming off offseason surgeries, didn't participate in
the on field portions of the spring workouts. Franklin's coming
off ankle clean up. Carlis had a shoulder procedure done.
(05:03):
I just think case it's really important for both guys
to get back on the field as soon as possible
after missing a lot of time in the spring, running
with the first team defense in a new scheme that's
fresh for everybody. No, that's paramount.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I mean, you can learn this defense all you want
in the classroom and all of that, but you got
to get out there and do it. And I think
Zaire Franklin Jalen Carlis will be just fine once they
get their feet underneath him. But do you need to
see it? So I hope it comes sooner than later.
I'd love to see, you know, when we hear from
Chris Ballard on Tuesday of next week, that you know
there's gonna be no concerns and these guys can be
(05:36):
on the field as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And that's what we're hoping for. Yeah, And with Carlais,
he's the leader in the clubhouse to be that will linebacker,
the second linebacker on the field next to Zaire Franklin.
Based on what he did last year as a rookie,
this guy showed a lot of promise. But he did
miss some games last year a few different injuries, and
did miss the spring rehabbing from surgery. But I think
he's got the right mental makeup. Here's what Zaire Franklin
(06:00):
and had to say about young Jalen Carlis and his potential.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Man. I would just say, maybe I'm obviously talented, uh
you know, could run, can cover, you know, you know,
can hit, you know, those are the things obviously to
pop out on the film. But I would just say,
you know, just as a guy, as a young player,
you know, humble, you know, willing to learn, you know,
and when you're out there, you know, it's it's really
(06:26):
obviously is lose defense and you know Machine's team, but
you know, at the end of the day, we out
there together. And I think JC just got the right
mentality when it come to that. Obviously he's dealt with
some injuries, got to get out there, got to you know,
learn what he don't know. But you know, I definitely
think he got a chance, you know, to be a
good player.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Again that Zaire Franklin
here on the Last Word ninety three five, one oh
seven five The Fan, I'm Matt Taylor with Casey Valley
as well. You kind of alluded to it a little bit,
case but how much behind the eight ball do you
think Franklin and Carlis are going to be because they
all of April May in the early part of June.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, I do think they are a little ball behind
the eight ball, especially because you had, you know, when
you think about mini camp that we had towards the
end of OTAs, that was important time to be able
to be on the field. Now, those guys, as we mentioned,
they were dealing with some offseason surgeries and cleanups that
they were dealing with, So that's the reason they weren't
on the field. But I think just because of that,
with a new scheme, you do kind of start behind
(07:24):
the April.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I know they were in the meetings.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But just getting on the field is going to be
vital to seeing how close to you know, that spot
of knowing the defense they can be. And that's why
I think it's paramount then get out on the field
as early as possible in camp.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah. I mean even with Zaire Franklin, he's played a
lot of ball, Yeah, started a lot of games the
last couple of years, but there's still nuances to a
new scheme and he's the biggest leader on that side
of the ball well.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And also you've got some new pieces in that secondary too,
that are going to be relying on you know, you
got you got buying them, you got Ward who weren't
here last year. Yeah, that you're you're going to be
in lockstep with them and knowing where they're supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
All that synergy with the new guys. So yeah, yeah, Zaire,
Franklin and Middley. He said in the offseason he didn't
know a lot about lou An Arumo in his scheme
prior to his hiring, but he's a big fan of
it now.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
To be honest with you, now, I wasn't you know
that familiar. Now, I'm a huge fan of you know,
guys that since he's had like Jesse Bates, you know
that's a good friend of mine. DJ Reader knew him
since he was in Clemson, you know, as well as
you know a few others. Uh So I've been fan
of players over there. But you know, just the more
I've had to obviously sit talk with lou talk to
talk with Bets, watched the film of my own go
(08:32):
back watch last year, watch twenty twenty three and just
see the different ways they able to attack offenses, put
themselves in positions to succeed and you know, take away
with the offense does best. You know, just extremely excited
to learn from a new coordinating, new coach.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You know, he used the phrase attack offenses, take away
what the offense does best. I think those are the
areas that if you're a fan of this team, that's
what's getting you excited. Ye maybe a little bit more
game specific, maybe a little bit more blitzing, hopefully take
away the other team's top options a little bit more effectively.
(09:07):
Right when the Bengals were rolling case that's exactly what
they were doing on defense.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Oh one hundred percent. You talk about what the Bengals
did that Super Bowl run, it was led in large
part by the defense. That's the reason that they were
where they were. And you can bring some of those
same principles over here. It makes this team gonna be
a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Quickly. How does the depth What does the depth look
like behind Franklin and Carlis. We saw a lot of
that in the spring, but they're still I mean, you
talk about Franklin, he's started over sixty plus games. Everybody
else on the roster, Casey linebacker wise, has combined for
less than twenty regular season starts in the NFL. What
does it look like and are you concerned about it?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I mean there's a little bit of concern just because
you just don't know because the experiences in there. I mean,
guys like Shaguna Lubi, You've seen some good flashes out
of them. I thought Cameron mcgroon looked really, really good
during the offseason portion. But then you've got Joe BATCHI
he's a newcomer, but he was in the defense in Cincinnati.
But a lot of those guys you just don't know
a lot because the sample size is pretty small.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
They didn't do much at linebacker in the draft, they
lost EJ. Speed and Grant Stewart in free agency, So,
like you said, proven an NFL experience kind of remains
the biggest question there. But I think linebacker is a position,
and I'm talking just big picture here, So that's one
of those spots that you can if you have to
pick follow me on this, if you have to pick
(10:30):
a position, that's maybe one area where you could loosely
afford to have baptism by fire. But Zaire Franklin has
proven durable and you're probably only going to play with
two linebackers on the field tops most of the time
because of how often the Colts are going to be
in in sub packages nickel or dime. This was defensive
(10:52):
coordinator lou Ana Rumo. Earlier in the offseason. He was
asked how he wants to match up with versatile receivers
and tight ends, which are prevalent obviously in modern NFL football,
and how linebackers factor into that.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
The days to me of putting linebackers on tight ends
is not ideal for the defense. So you always want
to get a bigger, longer athlete that maybe can run
a little bit dB mindset. So yeah, more dbs out
there in pure passing situations, I think is something that
(11:30):
we've always tried to do and we'll continue to do.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So we look at the the lack of experience at
linebacker for the Colts, you know, it might not be
as big of an issue as we think because the
Colts are going to use that secondary to disguise and
you know, be multiple and using linebackers is just that's
not what lou Anaarumo wants to do. That's not his
preferred method of covering weapons in the passing game.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, and it's gonna make a it's gonna be interesting
to see kind of who fills that void and how
many they can on the roster. And that is a
big thing too, because a lot of times when you're
trying to do that roster math down to stretch on
who makes that fifty three a linebacker. It's a versatile
piece because a lot of times you've gotten the special
teams component. But then also, well, if we're playing you know,
(12:15):
let's say you're playing two to three linebackers, you got
to make sure you got enough depth there too, So
that does change that calculation for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
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Time for a quick break here on the show. When
we come back, though, burning questions will continue in the secondary.
Is that unit the biggest strength on the team, and
(12:44):
how many players can the Colts keep in the secondary?
A lot of depth and a lot of good players.
Some tough conversations are going to be had at that spot.
We'll discuss all of that when we come back here
on the Last Word, Casey Vale, I'm Matt Taylor back
in just a moment on ninety three five one oh
seven five things.
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Welcome back to the Last Word, the off season Home
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This is on it case, this is gonna gets you
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and Whitney Houston singing to the background. Yeah, you know what, Matt,
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This is one that I forget what movie it was
either Sing or Sing two. But my youngest son fell
in love with this song because he was on the
background of one of those.
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So I've heard this had plenty of times. A ry
had a boy. Yep. Welcome back Last Word time with
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Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. That's Casey Valier. I'm
Matt Taylor, and we are continue our Burning Questions series
here in the off season. We just on segment one
went fully in scope with the linebackers. Now it's time
(14:08):
to take a look at what's going on in the secondary.
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dot com. All right, Burning questions in the second case,
the first one I'm posing to you, and this is
Juicy have the additions of Charvarius Ward and the other
free agent centerpiece, cam Binam at safety. Have those guys
(15:11):
made the secondary the Colts' biggest strength team wide? I
think so.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I do think I thought that the secondary really played
better towards the end of last year. You had some
pieces there that you were very comfortable with moving forward.
Not only did you add a couple guys, you added
elite players. I mean, these are two of the best
at their respective positions in the league. We know what
Kenny Moore is. I think Jalen Jones played great again
(15:36):
last year. So you have that, as you know, three
really dynamic corners, and then whatever you get out of
Justin Wally and Juju Brince, you've got five and then
Samuel Woomack I can't forget about him. You've got six
guys at that corner spot you feel pretty comfortable with.
So I do think that when you look at what
this has done, this is the best strength on this roster.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah. I just think the top end editions of those
two guys have turned the secondary into a major weapon.
And that's important. Right We've talked about this because Louie
an Rumo needs smart experienced playmakers in the back end
to be able to execute game specific game plans to
help confuse opposing quarterbacks. So cam Binam plays a huge
(16:19):
role in that because durability, his availability is there every
single week. You know, he proved that with the Minnesota Vikings,
and he talked earlier this offseason about knowing the Colts
defense based on what he's seen so far inside of it,
it's gonna be disruptive in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
It's been fun. It's a defense you even just hearing
from the offense them giving us our flowers and be like, yeah,
this defense is gonna be really good this year just
because they're going against us. So being able to hear
that from the offense is really reassuring for us to
know that, okay, we trust it, and going against the offense,
they're saying the same thing. So we know that lose
defense is gonna pay us really well this season. As
(17:00):
far as making plays.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, that's cam Bydam and I think going up against
that defense every day, specifically that secondary, that's gonna make
the Colts offense better too, correct. You know, Jim Bob
Cooter talked about that at one point in the offseason,
just how much more prepared he thinks the offense is
going to be seeing a complicated defense with stars on
it in practice every single day in training camp. All right,
(17:22):
burning question number two, case, do you expect Sarvarius Ward
to shadow and shut down the opposition's top player this season?
You know, I do.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I think it's gonna be you know, it's gonna be
game specific. But there are a handful of opponents. And
this is one of the biggest things that I talk
about constantly when I say that I feel like the
Texans are going to take a step back, and I'm
meaning that mainly against the Colts because I envision Sharvarius
Ward looking at Nico Collins and shutting him down, and
(17:52):
I look at those other weapons that Houston has, and
I'm not as worried as I was last year when
you think about the guys that they lost. So that's
one of the big reasons why I've been so high
on the Texans taking a step back. I think the
Colts kind of answered that spot that they needed to
take away their best receiver. We would all agree the
Nico Collins without him the last two years, those games
(18:13):
are completely different stories. When you talk about Colts versus Texans,
So just in that series alone, I think he's going
to be monumental.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
All right, case burning question number three, who's that third corner.
Who's going to be that second outside corner when the
Colts play Nickel defense when Kenny Moore gets kicked inside.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see. You know what.
Jalen Jones looks like he missed a little bit of
the end of our spring workouts and that allowed Justin
Walla to get some very meaningful reps with the starters.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I think it's really gonna be a good battle to
see between those two guys with Jones and Wally. But
then also don't forget about Juju Brent. So that is
one kind of a low key battle that I'm really
anxious to see at camp because I think you got
three guys really vying and have a lot of, you know,
strengths to their game to be that third one. I
think it's going to start out at Jalen Jones, but
(19:03):
I wouldn't be shocked to see Justin Wally start to
creep in and get some of those minutes as this
year goes on.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, naturally, you start with Jones. To your point, he
started twenty seven of the last twenty eight games. So
I think it, like you said, it would be hard
to supplant Jalen Jones right away if you're Justin Wally.
But I mean, there's just something about Justin Wally Man.
Don't sleep on this guy because you know, because of
injuries to Jones and Brent's in the off season, program
(19:29):
got some run with the first team defense, didn't look
like a fish out of water out there, didn't back
down as some of the best receiver weapons the Colts
have on offense was making plays. You know, you just
go back to you know what was said and then
what was not said. During the draft, the Colts were
really aggressive actions speak louder than words. Man, really aggressive
in drafting him where they did in the third round.
(19:51):
They did not want to let him slip through their
fingers in the draft and during the offseason. A lot
of Vets took notice in the spring. So here's our
various ward. This is what he saw out of young
Justin Wally during the spring workout period.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
He saw me he can be a dollar, he can
cover real well. Yeah, so you know, Ricky mistakes obviously
because he's a young guy, but he's been compeaking with
all the big dollars on offense. So I think he
got in him, He got the effect in him. He
comforted himsel if he's not scared. He don't act like
Ricky all the.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
He kind of like a vit got his head on straight.
So I've been proud of him so far.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, no doubt. That's high praise now from our Varius
Wards six year vet in the NFL has played at
a high level, all right. Lastly, how many members of
this secondary can make the team when you factor in
cornerback and safety case? What's that number for most boy?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
So I think in years past like that number is
right there at nine. I wouldn't be shocked to see
it a little bit higher. Ten might be the number.
And that kind of goes into the way that lou
An Arumo is going to utilize the secondary. Maybe less
of the linebackers you can afford, maybe to keep a
hold of an extra corner or an extra safety when
(21:02):
it comes down to that roster construction towards getting you
to fifty three. So I'm assuming ten nine might be
that sweet spot. So I mean, guess, if you know
you're looking at odds, I would say probably nine and
a half is probably where I would go.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'll take the over. Okay, all right, I'm gonna I'm
gonna go with ten. I think you keep six corners
and four safeties, and I think that means you're cutting
some darn good football players at both spots. You know,
if you keep six corners, that means that maybe somewhere
else on the roster feels that crunch a bit. Yeah,
look at it. Mean, if you're making a roster right now,
you got Kenny Moore. These, in my opinion, these are
(21:39):
your locks. Kenny Moore, Varius Ward, Jaylen Jones, Justin Wally
Juju Brentz. That's five yep. And then you got some
sort of maybe battle or run between Samuel Wollmack and Valentine.
David Long Junior is gonna be in that mix as well.
I mean, it's gonna be fascinating to see how that
(21:59):
shakes out of the position. It really will be.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
And that's what you talk about it every year. You
want to get to the point where you are cutting
good players. That's that's what you want to do. You
want to have that much depth that you're cutting good players.
And I think the Colts are going to really fall
into that line this year in the secondary that you're
going to see some really good players. They're going to
be picked up pretty quickly because they can offer some,
you know, some real valuable depth.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Guys that have played, yes, you know, guys have NFL experience.
Those are your burning questions around the Colts secondary going
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All right, when we come back, we're going to give
you the Forum Credit Union question of the week. We
only got a couple of bits left case, but chew
on this all right. I want to know which Colts
hot take that you have? Which one are you taking
with you heading into training camp? Right? Other people are
pointing the sword. They've backed you into a corner, but
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you're still holding true to your guns. Which I take
are you hanging on to? That is gonna maybe receive
some pushback going into training camp. We will discuss that's
coming up next here on the Last Word ninety three
five one seven five the Fan.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
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case for the Fortum Credit Union Question of the Week
before we close out here we teased it. I want
to know which cults are you sticking with? Knowing that
you might receive some pushback on it, but you think
you're going to be proven right once camp starts.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I hate to be just like super generic, but this
is what I'm going with.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
And I said, hot take.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Well it's a hot take, but it's a you know,
it's not like I reached too far. I think Anthony
Richardson will start all seventeen games for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh that is that is there? You go, who knows?
So that is what I am sticking with.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think we are going to see and Anthony Richardson,
who wants the competition. He wants to prove that he's
the best. He's gonna get out there, He's gonna look
very comfortable inside the offense, and he is going to
lead this team through seventeen games this year.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Love that that is hot take he hot take right there.
Hell yeah, mineus Colts tight ends minus Tyler Warren are
pretty good. Okay, don't at me if you're out there.
I know what you're saying. I know what the production
was last year. Tons of things went into their lack
of involvement in the offense. Moley Cox, Drew Ogletree, Will
(25:59):
Mal These guys can play when they got a big
time chip on their shoulder. It's been a big emphasis
all year. Get the tight ends more involved, that's the thing.
I mean, how much of that did we see in
the OTAs, Yes, from both quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
We mentioned that numerous time. You know, well there's the
tight I mean even Jilanni Woods. You didn't mention Jelanni
Woods into that trio that you just talked about outside
of Tyler Warren. But he made a resurgence during the
offseason workouts. So yeah, I would agree with that. I
like that hot take.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, and now you've got Warren here, I think you're
gonna see explosive usage out of the tight ends compared
to you know what you saw from that group last year.
I mean, even if Richardson starts too, I expect him
to be significantly better at incorporating tight ends compared to
his first two years in the NFL, because that's what
he's been working on the entire offseason, the middle of
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the field and the intermediate part of the passing game. Hey,
do you have a hot take out there? Share it
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as we go off the air heading into the weekend
at may take Colts on egg case, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Onso?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
See value cold?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So what's your hot take? And uh, you know, give
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live their financial dreams. Case, what's going on this weekend? Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Just I think we're gonna do a little trip to
Holiday World right before school starts.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
All that, and that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, the
kids love Holiday World. You could spend seven days at
that water park. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
So we'll be down there in good old Santa claus
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That's amazing. What the Thanksgiving Land and oh yeah of July,
oh yeah, we're gonna do it again next Friday. Recapping
the first few days of training camp. But until then, everybody,
enjoy the weekend, and thank you for getting in the
last word with us here in the Home of the
Colts ninety three to five, one oh seven five the
fan have a great weekends
Speaker 2 (28:03):
To get st
The NFL never sleeps. The roster is ever evolving, and it's.
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All about finding the edge. This is the last word
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Oh you know what time it is, tgif happy Friday
evening to you. Hopefully your weekend is starting and if
it has, thanks for getting in some time with us
tonight radio wise, Matt Taylor here with Casey Value. This
is the last word the Colts offseason radio home and
the last local show of the week. Here on ninety
three five one oh seven five the fan were inside
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the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio tonight. Casey, how
was your week man? It was great.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It was the uh, you know, the final whatever you
want to call it, before the push of camp. Gotta
get your lawn mode one last time, Hurrah. We talked
about it earlier this week. I think you went to
the dent, I got an oil.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Change in the car.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Life stuff because now all of a sudden free time
in quotes, but the free time that we did have
kind of dwindles away here now.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So what are you even Reid doing tonight? Because I mean,
I know he's losing his margarita buddy for the next
couple of weekends. I'll tell you this read.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So, my buddy Reid, he works at Round Tripper up
in Carmel, and they had tryouts all week. So I
haven't heard from him because he's been essentially working like
nine am till about eight thirty at night.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, but reads one of those guys that just surfaces, right,
isn't he.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So I'm assuming that there's a good chance after this
show I'm going to get the text like, hey, man,
I need a mark, and I'll be you know, I'll
be right there.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I've had a day I need to read mark right now,
any marg I need one made specifically by Margarita man Reid.
Does he know how often he's referred to on this program.
I have mentioned it to him.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I said, you're kind of a staple on thisra now, yeah, yeah,
all right, So the Colts ask said on their final
week of summer break here before training camp starts.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Now the last couple of weeks here on this program,
we've been breaking down each position group here in the summertime,
leading you up to the start of the season. On
previous episodes, we've talked all about quarterbacks and running backs
and whiteouts, and tight ends O line d Line last week.
Catch those shows on demand on the Colts podcast channels
to get you revved up for the start of training camp.
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By the way, report Day is coming up on Tuesday.
First practice next week for the Colts is Wednesday. But
on tonight's show, we're taking a deep dive into linebacker
and in the secondary. But, like we said, Case thirteen
practices all open to the public for the Colts coming up.
There's gonna be that joint practice with the Packers. There's
gonna be Colt City is open like always, that's open
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to kids and families. There's gonna be the night practice
coming up on July thirty first. That's the new thing
this year, first time the Colts are practicing under the
lights Thursday, July thirty first, eight to ten. There's gonna
be a fireworks show after that as well, which you
and I put the soundtrack together for. Yeah, that was
an experience that was I've learned a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'm not real hip on my new music, so I
learned a lot about what is well if.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You're not right all right, So I leaned on you
for a lot. But I think between the two of
us we kind of put our heads together, and we
think we did right by a lot of people all over. Yeah,
that's that's gonna be way you like, you'll you'll enjoy
it for sure. Head to Colts dot com slash camp
to claim your tickets and there you can see a
full rundown of the calendar and the training camp dates
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real quick before we get into the burning questions linebacker
and secondary case, what are you what are you most
excited for when it comes to camp. We've talked at
nauseum about everything in the summertime because we're in this
dead period, if you will, in terms of content. But
as it relates to Wednesday, when the Colts get on
the field, case, where are your eyeballs going first?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Probably popular just to say quarterback. We have talked about
the competition up to this point, but now we actually
get to see all of that come to fruition. So
that's probably just us, but everybody everybody fans too, and
there's gonna be daily reporting.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
On that, and that's the thing you're gonna know.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You're gonna have a really good idea on where the
Colts are gonna turn, which that's kind of the benefit
of the Colts having these open practices to the fans
that they get to see what their team is gonna
look like as they head into the season.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But then, you know, when you think about just what
I'm excited most about camp, you talk about that night practice.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm really looking
forward to.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That for sure. For sure. Again, that's July thirty. First,
that's a Thursday night, So that could be a good
weekend starter. H all right, to catch my drift thirsty Thursday.
All right, let's talk about linebacker burning questions here, the
hottest question surrounding this position for the Colts new defense,
new scheme Louanna arumos here now case, I think first
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and foremost on the front burner here with the linebackers
has to be will Zaire Franklin and Jalen Carlis. Will
they be ready to go at the start of training camp.
Both guys are coming off offseason surgeries, didn't participate in
the on field portions of the spring workouts. Franklin's coming
off ankle clean up. Carlis had a shoulder procedure done.
(05:03):
I just think case it's really important for both guys
to get back on the field as soon as possible
after missing a lot of time in the spring, running
with the first team defense in a new scheme that's
fresh for everybody. No, that's paramount.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I mean, you can learn this defense all you want
in the classroom and all of that, but you got
to get out there and do it. And I think
Zaire Franklin Jalen Carlis will be just fine once they
get their feet underneath him. But do you need to
see it? So I hope it comes sooner than later.
I'd love to see, you know, when we hear from
Chris Ballard on Tuesday of next week, that you know
there's gonna be no concerns and these guys can be
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on the field as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And that's what we're hoping for. Yeah, And with Carlais,
he's the leader in the clubhouse to be that will linebacker,
the second linebacker on the field next to Zaire Franklin.
Based on what he did last year as a rookie,
this guy showed a lot of promise. But he did
miss some games last year a few different injuries, and
did miss the spring rehabbing from surgery. But I think
he's got the right mental makeup. Here's what Zaire Franklin
(06:00):
and had to say about young Jalen Carlis and his potential.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Man. I would just say, maybe I'm obviously talented, uh
you know, could run, can cover, you know, you know,
can hit, you know, those are the things obviously to
pop out on the film. But I would just say,
you know, just as a guy, as a young player,
you know, humble, you know, willing to learn, you know,
and when you're out there, you know, it's it's really
(06:26):
obviously is lose defense and you know Machine's team, but
you know, at the end of the day, we out
there together. And I think JC just got the right
mentality when it come to that. Obviously he's dealt with
some injuries, got to get out there, got to you know,
learn what he don't know. But you know, I definitely
think he got a chance, you know, to be a
good player.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Again that Zaire Franklin
here on the Last Word ninety three five, one oh
seven five The Fan, I'm Matt Taylor with Casey Valley
as well. You kind of alluded to it a little bit,
case but how much behind the eight ball do you
think Franklin and Carlis are going to be because they
all of April May in the early part of June.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, I do think they are a little ball behind
the eight ball, especially because you had, you know, when
you think about mini camp that we had towards the
end of OTAs, that was important time to be able
to be on the field. Now, those guys, as we mentioned,
they were dealing with some offseason surgeries and cleanups that
they were dealing with, So that's the reason they weren't
on the field. But I think just because of that,
with a new scheme, you do kind of start behind
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the April.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I know they were in the meetings.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But just getting on the field is going to be
vital to seeing how close to you know, that spot
of knowing the defense they can be. And that's why
I think it's paramount then get out on the field
as early as possible in camp.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah. I mean even with Zaire Franklin, he's played a
lot of ball, Yeah, started a lot of games the
last couple of years, but there's still nuances to a
new scheme and he's the biggest leader on that side
of the ball well.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And also you've got some new pieces in that secondary too,
that are going to be relying on you know, you
got you got buying them, you got Ward who weren't
here last year. Yeah, that you're you're going to be
in lockstep with them and knowing where they're supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
All that synergy with the new guys. So yeah, yeah, Zaire,
Franklin and Middley. He said in the offseason he didn't
know a lot about lou An Arumo in his scheme
prior to his hiring, but he's a big fan of
it now.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
To be honest with you, now, I wasn't you know
that familiar. Now, I'm a huge fan of you know,
guys that since he's had like Jesse Bates, you know
that's a good friend of mine. DJ Reader knew him
since he was in Clemson, you know, as well as
you know a few others. Uh So I've been fan
of players over there. But you know, just the more
I've had to obviously sit talk with lou talk to
talk with Bets, watched the film of my own go
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back watch last year, watch twenty twenty three and just
see the different ways they able to attack offenses, put
themselves in positions to succeed and you know, take away
with the offense does best. You know, just extremely excited
to learn from a new coordinating, new coach.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You know, he used the phrase attack offenses, take away
what the offense does best. I think those are the
areas that if you're a fan of this team, that's
what's getting you excited. Ye maybe a little bit more
game specific, maybe a little bit more blitzing, hopefully take
away the other team's top options a little bit more effectively.
(09:07):
Right when the Bengals were rolling case that's exactly what
they were doing on defense.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Oh one hundred percent. You talk about what the Bengals
did that Super Bowl run, it was led in large
part by the defense. That's the reason that they were
where they were. And you can bring some of those
same principles over here. It makes this team gonna be
a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Quickly. How does the depth What does the depth look
like behind Franklin and Carlis. We saw a lot of
that in the spring, but they're still I mean, you
talk about Franklin, he's started over sixty plus games. Everybody
else on the roster, Casey linebacker wise, has combined for
less than twenty regular season starts in the NFL. What
does it look like and are you concerned about it?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I mean there's a little bit of concern just because
you just don't know because the experiences in there. I mean,
guys like Shaguna Lubi, You've seen some good flashes out
of them. I thought Cameron mcgroon looked really, really good
during the offseason portion. But then you've got Joe BATCHI
he's a newcomer, but he was in the defense in Cincinnati.
But a lot of those guys you just don't know
a lot because the sample size is pretty small.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
They didn't do much at linebacker in the draft, they
lost EJ. Speed and Grant Stewart in free agency, So,
like you said, proven an NFL experience kind of remains
the biggest question there. But I think linebacker is a position,
and I'm talking just big picture here, So that's one
of those spots that you can if you have to
pick follow me on this, if you have to pick
(10:30):
a position, that's maybe one area where you could loosely
afford to have baptism by fire. But Zaire Franklin has
proven durable and you're probably only going to play with
two linebackers on the field tops most of the time
because of how often the Colts are going to be
in in sub packages nickel or dime. This was defensive
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coordinator lou Ana Rumo. Earlier in the offseason. He was
asked how he wants to match up with versatile receivers
and tight ends, which are prevalent obviously in modern NFL football,
and how linebackers factor into that.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
The days to me of putting linebackers on tight ends
is not ideal for the defense. So you always want
to get a bigger, longer athlete that maybe can run
a little bit dB mindset. So yeah, more dbs out
there in pure passing situations, I think is something that
(11:30):
we've always tried to do and we'll continue to do.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So we look at the the lack of experience at
linebacker for the Colts, you know, it might not be
as big of an issue as we think because the
Colts are going to use that secondary to disguise and
you know, be multiple and using linebackers is just that's
not what lou Anaarumo wants to do. That's not his
preferred method of covering weapons in the passing game.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, and it's gonna make a it's gonna be interesting
to see kind of who fills that void and how
many they can on the roster. And that is a
big thing too, because a lot of times when you're
trying to do that roster math down to stretch on
who makes that fifty three a linebacker. It's a versatile
piece because a lot of times you've gotten the special
teams component. But then also, well, if we're playing you know,
(12:15):
let's say you're playing two to three linebackers, you got
to make sure you got enough depth there too, So
that does change that calculation for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
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Time for a quick break here on the show. When
we come back, though, burning questions will continue in the secondary.
Is that unit the biggest strength on the team, and
(12:44):
how many players can the Colts keep in the secondary?
A lot of depth and a lot of good players.
Some tough conversations are going to be had at that spot.
We'll discuss all of that when we come back here
on the Last Word, Casey Vale, I'm Matt Taylor back
in just a moment on ninety three five one oh
seven five things.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Welcome back to the Last Word, the off season Home
of the Colts from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, we had to make that firework playlist that's coming
up fireworks show after the night practice for the Colts
in training camp July thirty first, and the powers that
be gave us a huge responsibility. They said, hey, the
music men mate. In case, you guys make the firework playlist.
This is on it case, this is gonna gets you
fired up, all right, stuff blowing up in the sky
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and Whitney Houston singing to the background. Yeah, you know what, Matt,
just one works. I'm not gonna lie to you. This
one does work.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
This is one that I forget what movie it was
either Sing or Sing two. But my youngest son fell
in love with this song because he was on the
background of one of those.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So I've heard this had plenty of times. A ry
had a boy. Yep. Welcome back Last Word time with
Whitney off season Home of the Colts were inside the
Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. That's Casey Valier. I'm
Matt Taylor, and we are continue our Burning Questions series
here in the off season. We just on segment one
went fully in scope with the linebackers. Now it's time
(14:08):
to take a look at what's going on in the secondary.
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It's coltsfive k dot com register. So again coltsfive k
dot com. All right, Burning questions in the second case,
the first one I'm posing to you, and this is
Juicy have the additions of Charvarius Ward and the other
free agent centerpiece, cam Binam at safety. Have those guys
(15:11):
made the secondary the Colts' biggest strength team wide? I
think so.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I do think I thought that the secondary really played
better towards the end of last year. You had some
pieces there that you were very comfortable with moving forward.
Not only did you add a couple guys, you added
elite players. I mean, these are two of the best
at their respective positions in the league. We know what
Kenny Moore is. I think Jalen Jones played great again
(15:36):
last year. So you have that, as you know, three
really dynamic corners, and then whatever you get out of
Justin Wally and Juju Brince, you've got five and then
Samuel Woomack I can't forget about him. You've got six
guys at that corner spot you feel pretty comfortable with.
So I do think that when you look at what
this has done, this is the best strength on this roster.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah. I just think the top end editions of those
two guys have turned the secondary into a major weapon.
And that's important. Right We've talked about this because Louie
an Rumo needs smart experienced playmakers in the back end
to be able to execute game specific game plans to
help confuse opposing quarterbacks. So cam Binam plays a huge
(16:19):
role in that because durability, his availability is there every
single week. You know, he proved that with the Minnesota Vikings,
and he talked earlier this offseason about knowing the Colts
defense based on what he's seen so far inside of it,
it's gonna be disruptive in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
It's been fun. It's a defense you even just hearing
from the offense them giving us our flowers and be like, yeah,
this defense is gonna be really good this year just
because they're going against us. So being able to hear
that from the offense is really reassuring for us to
know that, okay, we trust it, and going against the offense,
they're saying the same thing. So we know that lose
defense is gonna pay us really well this season. As
(17:00):
far as making plays.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, that's cam Bydam and I think going up against
that defense every day, specifically that secondary, that's gonna make
the Colts offense better too, correct. You know, Jim Bob
Cooter talked about that at one point in the offseason,
just how much more prepared he thinks the offense is
going to be seeing a complicated defense with stars on
it in practice every single day in training camp. All right,
(17:22):
burning question number two, case, do you expect Sarvarius Ward
to shadow and shut down the opposition's top player this season?
You know, I do.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I think it's gonna be you know, it's gonna be
game specific. But there are a handful of opponents. And
this is one of the biggest things that I talk
about constantly when I say that I feel like the
Texans are going to take a step back, and I'm
meaning that mainly against the Colts because I envision Sharvarius
Ward looking at Nico Collins and shutting him down, and
(17:52):
I look at those other weapons that Houston has, and
I'm not as worried as I was last year when
you think about the guys that they lost. So that's
one of the big reasons why I've been so high
on the Texans taking a step back. I think the
Colts kind of answered that spot that they needed to
take away their best receiver. We would all agree the
Nico Collins without him the last two years, those games
(18:13):
are completely different stories. When you talk about Colts versus Texans,
So just in that series alone, I think he's going
to be monumental.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
All right, case burning question number three, who's that third corner.
Who's going to be that second outside corner when the
Colts play Nickel defense when Kenny Moore gets kicked inside.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see. You know what.
Jalen Jones looks like he missed a little bit of
the end of our spring workouts and that allowed Justin
Walla to get some very meaningful reps with the starters.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I think it's really gonna be a good battle to
see between those two guys with Jones and Wally. But
then also don't forget about Juju Brent. So that is
one kind of a low key battle that I'm really
anxious to see at camp because I think you got
three guys really vying and have a lot of, you know,
strengths to their game to be that third one. I
think it's going to start out at Jalen Jones, but
(19:03):
I wouldn't be shocked to see Justin Wally start to
creep in and get some of those minutes as this
year goes on.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, naturally, you start with Jones. To your point, he
started twenty seven of the last twenty eight games. So
I think it, like you said, it would be hard
to supplant Jalen Jones right away if you're Justin Wally.
But I mean, there's just something about Justin Wally Man.
Don't sleep on this guy because you know, because of
injuries to Jones and Brent's in the off season, program
(19:29):
got some run with the first team defense, didn't look
like a fish out of water out there, didn't back
down as some of the best receiver weapons the Colts
have on offense was making plays. You know, you just
go back to you know what was said and then
what was not said. During the draft, the Colts were
really aggressive actions speak louder than words. Man, really aggressive
in drafting him where they did in the third round.
(19:51):
They did not want to let him slip through their
fingers in the draft and during the offseason. A lot
of Vets took notice in the spring. So here's our
various ward. This is what he saw out of young
Justin Wally during the spring workout period.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
He saw me he can be a dollar, he can
cover real well. Yeah, so you know, Ricky mistakes obviously
because he's a young guy, but he's been compeaking with
all the big dollars on offense. So I think he
got in him, He got the effect in him. He
comforted himsel if he's not scared. He don't act like
Ricky all the.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
He kind of like a vit got his head on straight.
So I've been proud of him so far.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, no doubt. That's high praise now from our Varius
Wards six year vet in the NFL has played at
a high level, all right. Lastly, how many members of
this secondary can make the team when you factor in
cornerback and safety case? What's that number for most boy?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
So I think in years past like that number is
right there at nine. I wouldn't be shocked to see
it a little bit higher. Ten might be the number.
And that kind of goes into the way that lou
An Arumo is going to utilize the secondary. Maybe less
of the linebackers you can afford, maybe to keep a
hold of an extra corner or an extra safety when
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it comes down to that roster construction towards getting you
to fifty three. So I'm assuming ten nine might be
that sweet spot. So I mean, guess, if you know
you're looking at odds, I would say probably nine and
a half is probably where I would go.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'll take the over. Okay, all right, I'm gonna I'm
gonna go with ten. I think you keep six corners
and four safeties, and I think that means you're cutting
some darn good football players at both spots. You know,
if you keep six corners, that means that maybe somewhere
else on the roster feels that crunch a bit. Yeah,
look at it. Mean, if you're making a roster right now,
you got Kenny Moore. These, in my opinion, these are
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your locks. Kenny Moore, Varius Ward, Jaylen Jones, Justin Wally
Juju Brentz. That's five yep. And then you got some
sort of maybe battle or run between Samuel Wollmack and Valentine.
David Long Junior is gonna be in that mix as well.
I mean, it's gonna be fascinating to see how that
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shakes out of the position. It really will be.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
And that's what you talk about it every year. You
want to get to the point where you are cutting
good players. That's that's what you want to do. You
want to have that much depth that you're cutting good players.
And I think the Colts are going to really fall
into that line this year in the secondary that you're
going to see some really good players. They're going to
be picked up pretty quickly because they can offer some,
you know, some real valuable depth.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Guys that have played, yes, you know, guys have NFL experience.
Those are your burning questions around the Colts secondary going
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All right, when we come back, we're going to give
you the Forum Credit Union question of the week. We
only got a couple of bits left case, but chew
on this all right. I want to know which Colts
hot take that you have? Which one are you taking
with you heading into training camp? Right? Other people are
pointing the sword. They've backed you into a corner, but
(23:04):
you're still holding true to your guns. Which I take
are you hanging on to? That is gonna maybe receive
some pushback going into training camp. We will discuss that's
coming up next here on the Last Word ninety three
five one seven five the Fan.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
We now return to the off season home of the Colts.
But last word from the Indiana Union Construction Industry radio studio.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I heard you clapping over there. Oh yeah, I love it.
This one, unfortunately, is not on the firework mix. That's
all right, you know, be on our firewhere we go. Yeah,
we'll make a separate one. We'll wear headphones during it. Yeah,
all the all the twenty somethings will be looking at
me like, what what is it?
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What is this?
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Wow?
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I love me some HU with the blowfish guy. Hey.
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and the Colts for all the great work that they
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case for the Fortum Credit Union Question of the Week
before we close out here we teased it. I want
to know which cults are you sticking with? Knowing that
you might receive some pushback on it, but you think
you're going to be proven right once camp starts.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I hate to be just like super generic, but this
is what I'm going with.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
And I said, hot take.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Well it's a hot take, but it's a you know,
it's not like I reached too far. I think Anthony
Richardson will start all seventeen games for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh that is that is there? You go, who knows?
So that is what I am sticking with.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think we are going to see and Anthony Richardson,
who wants the competition. He wants to prove that he's
the best. He's gonna get out there, He's gonna look
very comfortable inside the offense, and he is going to
lead this team through seventeen games this year.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Love that that is hot take he hot take right there.
Hell yeah, mineus Colts tight ends minus Tyler Warren are
pretty good. Okay, don't at me if you're out there.
I know what you're saying. I know what the production
was last year. Tons of things went into their lack
of involvement in the offense. Moley Cox, Drew Ogletree, Will
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Mal These guys can play when they got a big
time chip on their shoulder. It's been a big emphasis
all year. Get the tight ends more involved, that's the thing.
I mean, how much of that did we see in
the OTAs, Yes, from both quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
We mentioned that numerous time. You know, well there's the
tight I mean even Jilanni Woods. You didn't mention Jelanni
Woods into that trio that you just talked about outside
of Tyler Warren. But he made a resurgence during the
offseason workouts. So yeah, I would agree with that. I
like that hot take.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, and now you've got Warren here, I think you're
gonna see explosive usage out of the tight ends compared
to you know what you saw from that group last year.
I mean, even if Richardson starts too, I expect him
to be significantly better at incorporating tight ends compared to
his first two years in the NFL, because that's what
he's been working on the entire offseason, the middle of
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the field and the intermediate part of the passing game. Hey,
do you have a hot take out there? Share it
with us on Twitter X. Love to hear from you
as we go off the air heading into the weekend
at may take Colts on egg case, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Onso?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
See value cold?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So what's your hot take? And uh, you know, give
us a reason why you're sticking to your guns on
this team going into training camp. Visit the forum credit
Union fanforum section of Colts dot com to interact there
with other fans online. Post a topic, get in on
various discussions on the Colts forum credit Union helping members
live their financial dreams. Case, what's going on this weekend? Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Just I think we're gonna do a little trip to
Holiday World right before school starts.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
All that, and that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, the
kids love Holiday World. You could spend seven days at
that water park. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
So we'll be down there in good old Santa claus
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That's amazing. What the Thanksgiving Land and oh yeah of July,
oh yeah, we're gonna do it again next Friday. Recapping
the first few days of training camp. But until then, everybody,
enjoy the weekend, and thank you for getting in the
last word with us here in the Home of the
Colts ninety three to five, one oh seven five the
fan have a great weekends
Speaker 2 (28:03):
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