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April 23, 2025 • 32 mins
Kristen sits down with Tamera Green, SVP and Chief Communications Officer at Tepper Sports & Entertainment, to discuss her involvement in bringing the Panthers to Charlotte, launching her own business, and her current leadership responsibilities at TSE.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I think it is about having those different perspectives and
bringing your experiences and your realities and all of those
kinds of opportunities to be full of grace and how
you got where you are, whatever that road was.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Male.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Female, We all have our journeys and our stories. But
I also think you have to see it to be it.
Kind of idea that if you can see it, it
seems real and it doesn't seem so far away.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to the Inspire Her Podcast, presented by Atrian Health.
This is a podcast series for Panthers fans where we
highlight admirable women from across the Carolinas as they share
stories and lessons from their lives and careers. I'm Kristin Balboni,
Panthers team reporter and your host, and today we have
Tammer Green, SVP and Chief Communications Officer at Temper Sports

(00:54):
and Entertainment and someone that I just look up to
so much and I feel honored to call friend as
well as a colleague. In Tarama. Thank you so much
for being here. I've been so excited for this.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh my gosh, to be with you and cut away
from other things and spend time chatting love.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
That I know and we've had the opportunity to chat
quite a bit, so it's funny to do it in
microphones now, right, which.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
More formal and have to try to behave myself it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
But here's the thing it's going to be. I have
learned so much from you, and we have had whether
it's internally, have had a chance to do panels, let's say,
and you know, you communicate with our team all the time.
So I'm really excited for the women or people in
general who listen to this podcast to get some of
your wisdom as well.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I hope I can find some ah your way too.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
So you've been with TSEC since twenty twenty three and
in your role you oversee which this just makes my
head spend public and media relations as well as corporate
communications and I'm sure ten other things. So what I
this is something I've always wondered, is those departments are
very big. They encompass me, they encompass a lot of people.
So what does a typical day look like for you?

(02:02):
And how do you prioritize?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
That is a great question. And I think one of
the things that I like best about being in comms
is we touch every bit of the organization, and no
day is the same. I think for me, I'm a
morning person. I have a lot of energy in the morning,
so I like to get in before everybody else is
here and kind of get my day going. If there's

(02:24):
something that I need to read or really think about,
Mornings are really good for that for me. So I
like to get here, get my coffee, and get on
in and start my day in that way. And that
to me is the one thing that's sort of consistent
unless we have some morning events, et cetera. But that
is my go to plan for myself to get ready

(02:48):
for the day. And then you know, we have step
meetings throughout the week, but we also have lots of events,
evening events, lunchtime events we have where we're out in
the community, which is really special. I think it's something
that I'm really proud of this organization for is just
how much whether it's FC or Panthers David Nicoletepper Foundation,

(03:12):
our leadership team is on boards and representing us throughout
the community, so really exciting. And there are things, you know,
there are seasons, like literally.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
For our actual seasons and actual.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Seasons, and you know, so right now we are Charlotte
f C. But also the stadium renovation, which is one
of my key priorities in what we're doing from you know,
the campaign to secure the six hundred and fifty million
dollars in partnership with the city and collaborating with them
on how we would best look at you know, creating

(03:46):
this relationship and what we can do to this stadium
in this building to keep it in this location where
it's so beneficial to our economic development and meaningful to uptown.
So those are priorities for right now. But at the
same time, we have our panthers going getting ready to
go through the draft, and we just had training camp

(04:06):
moved here last year, so we're also starting that renovation
to have the fieldhouse and the fields and their community relationships.
There are elected officials that we're keeping in the loop.
We're still in that planning, permitting, rezoning process. This week,
for example, we are before the zoning committee as one

(04:28):
of the you know, next to the final step in
rezoning for the stadium. So lots of really exciting pieces,
but then we get to come do things like this
with you. We have the American Heart Association coming and
we're doing training in CPR for our staff.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
We've gotten to do that. It's amazing, it.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Is, and you see when you start the prep work
that they send out, you see the importance of what
it can mean as you go through that. But I
guess that's a long winded answer, which I know doesn't
surprise you since you do know me that no day
is exactly the same, and I know lots of folks
say that, so I hesitated to start with that. But
there are priorities for the week. There are priorities for

(05:11):
what we're doing as an organization, and certainly for me
and the executive team right now, that stadium renovation effort
is critical to us and it will be one of
the biggest things we do over the next five years.
And it is you know, as we tell staff, like
this is a career moment. You know, this building has

(05:32):
been here for thirty years, right so almost thirty years,
So you don't get to do these things every year.
So embrace the learning and the journey and the process.
As that's again back to comms being able to touch
so many things. I love that learning, whether it's with
partnerships or community or speech writing speeches. It runs the gamut.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's so funny because I was actually going to ask
you about this learning process. I believe the first you
and I ever met, you were doing these little lunches
and we were sitting down in the cafeteria and you said,
one of the things I love so much is learning
and growing. And then I'm hearing you talk about rezoning
permits and all of this stuff that you wouldn't necessarily
think about with comms, and these are different. As you said,

(06:16):
that's a five year project and potentially longer. And then
you have these seasons where everything is so quick. Do
you ever get a little bit of whiplash? You know,
for anyone listening and they say, okay, you know, how
do I keep my how do I keep my calendar organized?
How do I switch from oh, this needs to be
approved for the Panthers by tomorrow. And then also we're
doing this really long project where we're going to be

(06:38):
working through permits.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I think that's where we have a great team of
people and we kind of all have we'll have our
meetings and our one on ones, right, so we have
group meetings and one on one and just having people
who are owning certain pieces and then knowing that there
are there's a cadence for every project and knowing that
there's a timeline for each of those. But you know,

(07:02):
I keep here my priorities so I don't get too
far in the weeds. Coming from the agency world, I'm
used to being in the weeds, and I have to
be careful not to go too far in the weeds
and get in other people's beeswax, if you will, and
let them do what they do well and just come,
you know, get over myself of my background. So back
to that learning, learning a new way of leading, which

(07:26):
is different than in the agency world when you're you're
in the thick of it. Not that we aren't here,
but there are so many other roles that I need
to play to help our team do what we need
to do, and they're counting on me to do that.
And if I get let myself go down a rabbit
hole on something else, then I haven't led in the
right way and I haven't delivered, and I could you know,

(07:48):
it could be an issue for them from a timeline standpoint.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Because you care so much you know about about one
thing and making sure that it's exactly right. I see
what you're saying about having to pull back a little
bit and let people, these amazing people that we work with,
do what they do best. You mentioned the agency piece
of it. I do want to talk about that. So
you founded your own marketing company in twenty twelve, and
I remember you telling me a little bit about this

(08:13):
when we first met, and I just can you tell
everyone what that encompassed. I know you got to work
on the coolest projects and you had this incredible agency,
So can you share some of that.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yes, I think I was really lucky. You know, we
talk about, you know, journeys and people who lead you
and guide you. And my first job was with Max
Mulliman and it was the effort to bring the Panthers here,
which was amazing. And as part of that, we had
a little hiccup in the funding of the stadium, which
is actually how PSLs were born to actually get the

(08:45):
money that was needed to build the stadium. I did
not know that, and we can talk about that too.
But to answer your question, I think for me, it's
it was a lot about watching him. It's sort of
like I think of those Hallmark movies where you or
in this small town and you leave and you go
to a big city and you want to come back.
It was kind of like that from an agency standpoint.

(09:06):
I got my start with a small agency that was
started here, focused on you know, relationships here, and then
I went with some of the bigger agencies. IMG at
the time was one of the bigger athlete representation. They
were starting a corporate consulting business and they wanted to

(09:29):
have an office in Charlotte. So I was able to
lead building that out with a great leader there. Then
GMR came calling that was an even bigger agency conglomerate
where you're with ad agencies, pr agencies, event agencies. And
learned so much from each of those that I felt like, Okay,
maybe the time is now that I want to go

(09:50):
back to being with a smaller agency. And I always
had a bit of an entrepreneurial little itch that I
needed to scratch, and so that was exciting to me
to get to do that and to be able to
touch the business more. You got out of being in
the business so much as you you know, you always
want to be you know, what's my next thing, what's

(10:13):
my next thing, and then sometimes you miss some of
the things you got to do when you were touching
the clients and the actual business and coming up with
the campaigns and the concepts and the messaging, and so
coming back to do my own business, I was able
to do some of that, and we did do some
big things. We did. I wanted to try to take

(10:33):
what I'd learned in sports and apply it to other opportunities.
And I also wanted to come back to my roots
in Charlotte and see what could I do with local
projects and campaigns, and really got to do a couple
of exciting things here that will be very memorable to me.
One was working on the census, which in the count

(10:54):
in twenty twenty hit right when COVID came along with that,
and so we had a full on campaign that had
a lot of touch points. It was a time when
there were some sensitivities for you know, your heritage and
you know, speaking to the government could have been something
that some of our neighbors were uncomfortable with. So we had,

(11:17):
you know, trusted resources like churches and libraries and schools
where we were going to have these touch points. We
also had a digital divide that was very real, still
very real, and then all of a sudden, you can't
be in person, and we had to pivot and sorry
for New York, but we did get an extra seed
in Congress by our count, So I do feel very

(11:40):
happy about that for our state. And you know, certainly
mecklinber County was a big part of getting that count
out there. But also in my business, we did some
big things we did. I had never done anything with
Food Network, and so that was back to my learning
that you mentioned. I thought about Food Network the project

(12:02):
like I think about sports when we would put a
strategy together. So food Network was kind of the league.
It's the NFL. The show that we were going to
work with, Restaurant Impossible was the team, and then the
celebrity chef, chef Robert Irvine, was the coach or the player,
and so building the strategies and the touch points around
those assets was really that's how my brain worked and

(12:26):
how my brain was trained. So I just applied that
learning to you know, an entirely different industry.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's such a good that's such a good thought for
people listening and for myself as well, is that even
if you are in all of these different projects or
touching all these different things, if you can organize it
a certain way and bring that thread across to all
the other things you're working on. That does, as you said,
give you give you that little feeling of home, of

(12:53):
a touch point there. I've never thought about that when
it comes to tackling different areas of a business or
of a project. So I like that. I'm going to
remember that from now. How do I think about it
in NFL terms?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Exactly? Everything to us is right, Yeah, that's how do
you apply it?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
You mentioned this a little bit, and I want to
go back. Tell me about your involvement in bringing the
Panthers to Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
It's such an exciting opportunity. So back then, sports marketing
was not a thing, and so I thought I was
going to law school to be an agent, because you
didn't have this concept and this discipline that had been
named yet. Right, it existed, but it hadn't been named
right in my opinion. So I wanted to take a

(13:37):
year between undergrad and going to law school, and I
wanted to do an internship, and I was hoping to
do it with an agency or a team in sports,
just to get a more get more experience, and take
a break from school. And so I landed a job.
I had an opportunity in Washington, d C. With pro
Serve the Lakers in LA which seemed very scary to

(14:01):
a little girl from North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I lived in La.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yes, the traffic alone, right. And then this opportunity with
Mulum and Marketing, and I just came and met with
them and all the projects and they were telling me
about this effort to win a franchise for the Carolinas
and I'm like, that sounds amazing, you know. And then
I ended up getting the internship. It was a year
long internship, and then I realized, this is what I

(14:26):
want to do. I don't actually need to go to
law school. Unfortunately, I had already studied and prepared for
the l set by the time I realized it. But
nonetheless I.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Really got to logic puzzles. There's something you can take
out of it.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Maybe that was a good thing that I didn't end
up in law school. Kristen and I went to the
owner and the mentor. I just mentioned Max Mulluman and
I said, I've decided I want to stay in this business.
I am going to start looking for things. I know
that my time here is up, not assuming that he
would then offer me something, and he did. And you know,

(15:01):
my opportunity to work on the five years on the
project with the effort to get the franchise here, working
directly with the Richardson family, working on NFL preseason games.
I got to be in Chicago when the when the
announcement was made. We were working on the presentation up
until the last second for for mister Richardson and representative

(15:24):
from Bank of America and Max to go in and
present to the owners and UH and then later that
night we we got the great news for the Carolinas.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
What was it like hearing that.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I have to admit I'm a crier anyway, I'm a hugger.
I'm a crier. I mean just you couldn't help. But
just the relief too of all the hurdles. And you know,
back to the quick story on the funding. Mister Hugh McCall,
who was, you know, just instrumental in so many wonderful
things in Charlotte, and you know, the leader for Bank

(15:59):
of America at the time, Nations Bank went with mister
Richardson to meet with the NFL leadership at the time,
Paul Tagliabu, the Commissioner, and Hugh McCall tells the commissioner,
don't worry. Jerry Richardson has the money. We're not worried
about that. We will provide the money, you know, as

(16:20):
a loan. And the commissioner said, that's all well and good,
mister McCall. But in the NFL, we don't allow owners
to come in with any debt. And mister Richardson had
not wanted to ask for public money at that time.
The timing was kind of off, and it certainly was
going to be off at that moment to be able
to uh make that happen. And so, you know, my boss,

(16:44):
Maximullman starts thinking about what can we do, What can
we do? How do we raise this money quickly? And
he thought about what colleges do, which is you give
a certain amount of money for the right to buy
seats to a game. So for us, the tar heels right,
you want to go see our basketball team? And now
are you know, soon to be famous? Are already famous?

(17:05):
Football team? Oh? He's coach Belichick. You you pay to
play kind of thing. And in this case, his idea was,
what if we borrow from that concept and but this
time the fan controls that seat. That seat is their seat,
and we honor them. So we have our panther statues
around the stadium that have the initial the inaugural PSL owners' names,

(17:30):
and you buy it. And I remember, my husband loves
telling the story. I came home and told him about
the concept, and he's like, that's not going to work.
No one's going to do that. And then he said,
and then within two weeks I owned four of those.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
You know, so I'll go look at your name on there.
I love to walk by and look at all of
the different names on the statue, so I'll try to
look for for you.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Thank you, Yes, we are there.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
What I did not know that that's how it got
started in PSLs. That is so neat and I just
can't I can't believe that you have been a part
of all of these incredible and a driving force in
all of these incredible things, Which leads me to one
of the many awards that you have received. You were
Sports Business Journals, you were in an inaugural class of

(18:14):
game Changers women in Sports Business. First of all, amazing,
let me just say, And then also, you know, you
look at the other people who are nominated in the
fact that these awards have gone on and on and
grown in popularity. So in what ways in your career
have you seen women impact and changed this sports business world.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I think, you know, I feel like when I started,
I was mostly the not only the only woman, but
the youngest in the room. Now I'm among many women
and the oldest in their home. But I think that,
you know, having the representation of different thoughts and ideas

(18:55):
is so important, and it's one of the many things
that I amire admire about being here at Typer Sports
and Entertainment and what Dave and Nicole have worked. I
think very hard and believe in picking and choosing the
best for the role, doesn't matter green eyes, red eyes, whatever,

(19:17):
the best person for the role, and I really love that.
But I think it is it goes deeper than that.
They're creating a culture of that right from the top
all the way down, and I think that that. I
think that speaks to their hearts and a big part
of what attracted me to coming here was how they
wanted and wanted this place to be and how they

(19:41):
are building it to be.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I feel completely the same way. So I met with
Nicole and Dave before I took this job, and I said,
oh yeah, I want to I want to be a
part of this. So I just think I feel incredibly
lucky to be a part of this organization, such a
family organization. It feels like that and so accomplished. And
as you said, we have the best of the best

(20:04):
people from the top down, and six of nine of
our executive leadership team are women. And I've never worked
at a place where there are so many women on
the executive leadership team. So what does that do for
you all as a unit and for this organization?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Again, I think it is about having those different perspectives
and bringing your experiences and your realities and all of
those kinds of opportunities to be be full of grace
in how you got where you are, whatever that road was. Male. Female,

(20:41):
We all have our journeys and our stories. But I
also think you have to see it to be it
kind of idea that if you can see it, it
seems real and it doesn't seem so far away. So
I do think, you know, when we're Christie's giving a
lot of speeches Stee Coleman our CEO, I think she

(21:02):
gets that question a lot, and certainly being you know,
first female president, one of the first female presidents. She
she answers it in a great way because I do
think it's important to remember she leads men, women both
and people from a lot of different backgrounds, and I

(21:23):
think it's important to have sensitivities to that and recognizing that,
and she does. You know, we talked to her about,
you know, how important it is for that little girl
to see her in that role, or that little boy
to see someone make it from where you know, from
from where you come from. It is an opportunity for

(21:44):
you to to try to if that's where you want
to be, look at what look at her story and
what she did, look at others of our stories and
what we did to try to get there. And she
talks a lot about you know, do the job you
have in front of you, and do it well right,
and then the next thing's going to come. And that
was her reality.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's it's such a great point about seeing it to
be it. I just just quickly I was I always
thought about being a sports reporter. I was like, gosh,
this is so cool. You're Aaron Andrews, your Michelle Tafoye
is you know everyone at that time, you know, a
storm on ESPN, but being from a small town in
North Carolina. I didn't know. You know, my mom's in insurance,
my dad was in food service. I didn't think that

(22:24):
that was a path, you know, it seemed very nebulous.
And then going to you and see I actually did advertising.
I took a sports adendum class. There was no sports
journalism at the time, but I was advertising because I thought, well,
I need to have a real a real goal, right
And then with some some incredible opportunities that I tried
to make the most of, I've I've turned it into

(22:45):
this this thing that little me could have could have
never imagined. And I feel like you would say the
same thing, because you started out and like you said,
you thought you had to go to law school, and
I mean, what a career that you've had in so
it's wonderful. I know how much our executive leadership team
and you give back and you want people to be

(23:06):
able to see that this is possible. And I just
think that's so cool.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Thank you for that. I think you're mentioning starting at Carolina.
You're making me think of a fun story. I might
have used it on the panel, but I thought I
wanted to be a journalist, you know, that is similarly,
what is pr what is communications right? Journalism? Back in
my day, you know, TV reporters and newspapers were big.

(23:33):
There was no social media. Again dating myself, Kristen, this.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
It sounds nice down from Lane.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
But I had a job when I was in high
school at the Greensboro News and Record and the Uh.
So I thought, well, gosh, I'm going to go work
for the Daily tar Heel. When I get to Carolina
and I've realized and am told they don't hire freshmen,
I'm like, well, do they not know all the great
things I did in high school? Which every single person

(24:01):
who came to Carolina did big things in high school.
So you've met your match on these And so I
did go meet with the sports editor and he said,
we'll go cover this crew practice early in the morning,
freezing cold, five am. They are so excited about it.
They were so passionate about it. So I write this
story like I didn't know anything about Crewe and learning

(24:22):
from them and rowing. I turned in the story and
he had the printed copy and threw it at me.
He stood probably six or five. He was not a
basketball player, but he and we're standing as he's like
tossing it here. This is fluff and I'm like fluff,
and I'm like, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry. And
he's like, you should be in PR, and I'm like PR.

(24:44):
What's PR?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
You know?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Is that a good thing? And I had a part
time job in sports information and the rest is history.
Of course that's where I should be. I'm biased. I
want to tell everybody's story and the best way I can.
I don't want to be unbiased. I don't want to
be neutral. I want to be you know, talking about
my team, whether that's an executive team or a partner sponsorship,

(25:08):
or on the field, on the pitch. And I should
try to find him because he he did me a
solid and setting me on the right path. And so
I took the PR route in school of journalism.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Although I'm sure that Crew team would have loved a
little bit of love right in the daily tar heel,
but that's I guess the story for another time. But
hopefully they got it at some point right And we're like, ah,
we really could have, you know, used people that are
more interested in Crew. I have a question for you.
So we've gotten to talk about some incredible moments and
projects that you have been at the center of, and

(25:46):
I imagine bringing the Panthers to Charlotte is one of them.
Starting your own company and all of the different things
that you've worked on. But I have what what is
one of your proudest moments here at TSEC, And I'm
leading you here because I think I know what it is,
and it's such an accomplishment. Do you know what I'm

(26:07):
thinking of?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I don't know if I do, Oh, well.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Then that's amazing that you have so many.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, I would say our campaign to secure the six
hundred and fifty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's a big one. I have another one within the
last year that you made happen concert for Carolinas.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
That was that was an incredible team effort and nothing
like that has probably ever been done or or maybe
could be done again. Well hopefully what needs to for
the reason sadly for our neighbors in western North Carolina,
but it usually takes nine months to put on one

(26:48):
act concert and to have all of you know, to
have Luke Holmes, Eric Church, James Taylor and on and
on put something on in three weeks like what they
did was nothing short of a miracle and I still
have people talk to me constantly about that being one
of the best shows, the most memorable moments. I think

(27:09):
all of the talent and what they did as performers,
but the reason and their hearts and giving it all
back and Dave and Nicole just getting the call from
Luke Holmes and saying, what do you need? You need
the building, it's yours, you need us to help you
with some of our sponsors done and all for not
you know, in terms of dollars to back to this organization.

(27:32):
I mean, their hearts are so generous, and I loved
for the whole country the world to see that told
by Luke Holmes and Eric Church and let that get out.
They're so humble about telling those stories and for someone
else to be able to tell it really was quite

(27:53):
quite lovely for people to see how much they care
about the Carolinas. And we've been up in western North
Carolina doing a variety of things. One of our big
partners up there, Second Harvest Food Bank. It was right
on the water and gone, the whole building, all the food,
everything gone, and so that was one of the first,

(28:17):
you know, jump in on that one. But Concert for
Carolina will you're You're right, that is, you know. I
don't think of that one as as as a me success,
nor was the sixth fifty million dollar campaign, but it
was a labor of love for both of those.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yes, I think you're being modest about Concert for Carolina's
because you organized this hole and you you I was
very grateful and humbled to be a small small part
of it. But you organized this incredible campaign to get
the word out on everything, and you know, for anyone listening,
Like I said, timor's being modest, but everyone was working
around the clock to make this happen. And the incredible
people here at Bank of America Stadium were just awesome

(28:57):
and as awful as it was, and like you said,
we hope that we never have to do anything like
that again. But to see the resilience of the community
and to see how everyone across the state banded together
and certainly here at Bank of America Stadium to make
this huge fundraising effort and awareness campaign happen with something
that I'll never forget. And I know that you feel

(29:18):
the same. I remember you telling me that I think
we shed a teer together over that, and just what
a beautiful, what a beautiful endeavor that was.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think a true testament to a strong organization is
that cross functional collaboration. It's my favorite thing. I love
when you bring people together and connect those dots for
how we're going to do this together and how we're
going to team together. I mean huge shout out to
stadium ops as always. I mean so behind the scenes,

(29:50):
but they make everything that we do in this building
happen big small. Otherwise, they are connected and they are
some of the most most lovely people, solution oriented. Like
I love all the different folks we get to work with,
but we tend to work with them the most because
they touch everything and we're touching everything, and so it's

(30:12):
just this hand and hand in glove kind of process.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
You're seeing them a lot in meetings right, absolutely again,
and out events, yes, absolutely. So. The last thing I
want to talk about is not really a question. It
is just it's a thank you from me. So and
I will try not to as you know, I'm a
crier as well. So you started in March of twenty
twenty three. In June, I went through a very tough

(30:36):
time and had to have a surgery that I was
not expecting. It's not something I've talked about a ton
the specifics of but what needless to say it was,
it was it was a very scary time. And you
and I had talked, you know, four or five times
right before that, and you instantly became someone that I
really leaned on. You were my connection point with the organization.

(30:59):
You were you had me on a prayer chain. You
were someone that I will just forever be grateful for.
And you were doing all of this in addition to
doing your job. And you have a family, a lovely family,
and you took the time to be there for me.
I think we let you know immediately after my surgery
that I was doing well, and I had my list

(31:21):
of people to please, you know, my husband, please let
know and you and Nicole Tepper were right at the
top of that list. And so I just want to say,
you know, I've told you this before, but on a
microphone for anyone listening, the empathy that you have and
the way in which you embrace and I know it's
not just me at this organization. You really take a
lot of us under your wing, and so I just

(31:42):
want to thank you for that, because, as you said,
the environment here I wouldn't want to work anywhere else
after having worked here, And thank you for being such
an important throu.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Are so easy to love and to be kind too,
And thank you for that amazing call out. I think
a lot of you, and that was an unimaginable time
and I'm glad that you are on the other side
yet with some beautiful additions to your family. And let's

(32:13):
keep that going.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yes, So, before I start fully sopping into the microphone,
we are going to thank Tamra for her time. Thank
you so much for being so generous with your time
and for sharing all of these insights. I appreciate it
so much.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Enjoyed being with you.
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