January 8, 2025 • 27 mins
On the final episode of Jags A.M. for the 2024 Season, Kainani, Brian and John discuss the announcement of requested interviews for the Jaguars' next head coach. The crew evaluates the attractiveness of the Jaguars' job compared to other coaching vacancies around the league. This and more on today's show presented by Jet Home Loans.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome to Jagsam. I'm Pennanni Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Oser
with me our final jags Am of the regular season.
We're gonna talk things out. There's a coaching search coming
up and a lot going on in the off season.
So big thing number one and so it begins. Doug
Peterson released of his duties as head coach, so that
means being now looking for a new head coach and
leader of this team. Treen Balki says, the search is
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going to start right away.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I think you think the short answer to that is yes.
I mean, we're gonna move quickly to get some people
lined up to talk to How long that process takes.
I think Sean mentioned it's going to take as long
as it takes to identify the right individual. And is
that one interview? Is that two interviews? I think you
know we're going to do our due diligence and be
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very thorough in this process.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Brian, we already know eight people that they're bringing in
for interview or they've requested interviews that I should say,
but talk us through this timeline a little bit because
it is different to seear than we see.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
In the past.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, I think that this process is going to be
slower than people have imagined because the league is intentionally
trying to push back the hiring date. They're trying to
be more inclusive and have more potential candidates. Obviously, that's
been something they've been working at for quite a lot
of time. Guy, And you can't do an in person
interview with someone who's under contract until after the divisional rounds,
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so not at next week, but the week after next week.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Is the first week that you can do in person interviews.
So everything is going to be virtual.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I think the window is Wednesday, Thursday through Sunday this week,
and then it tightens down a little bit, so a
lot of teams are scrambling to get this first round
of virtual interviews in before that deadline hits. John, this
is a process that looks like it might take all
the way up till Super Bowl for most of these twas,
So that's kind of the way the league is setting
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it up well.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I think people who followed the last Jaguars coaching search
sort of have a feel for the pace. Doug Peterson interviewed.
I forget the exact timeline, but it was a long time.
A month between first interview and actual hiring. So the
league has tried to do that with the idea of
being to allow the divisional round coaches Championship game coach
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is a legitimate a legitimate chance to be in the mix,
and frankly, it's worked. The process has slowed. Five or
six years ago, it felt like the high you could
interview a head coach and there'd be guys announced like
next week. I don't anticipate that, and that's good because
it does allow teams to take their time and try
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to find the right guy. And Brian, that's the most
important thing is finding the right guy, not the first guy.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I think so, And there is also the possibility that
names can be added to that list of eight. Someone
along the way comes to mind, someone that you maybe
not have heard a lot about, or that isn't in
the pup guy as much. And we'll both say this, John,
it's about finding the right guy and if that takes
thirty days, she'll be it. But I don't think the
Jaguars will behind the curve at all because every team
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is following these new guidelines.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
They are, which leads into our second big thing, which
is top spot. There's six openings right now for head
coaches around the NFL, and obviously we know what the
Jaguars have going on in their division and what's been there. John,
How appealing is this opening compared to some of the
other ones.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Well, I think it's appealing in the sense that you
have an owner who supports, You have an owner who
doesn't meddle.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You have.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
An owner who will clearly spend whatever it takes. You've
got Florida, you have this building we're sitting in the MEC.
I said yesterday and I'll continue saying it. I think
the job is as appealing as the candidate likes Trevor Lawrence,
and I think most candidates will like that very much.
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You have a young quarterback. He's been injured, but you know,
before that injury in twenty three playing at a high level.
If he scratched the surface, there's something there. Brian, I
think if you're a Trevor Lawrence guy, it's the best job.
I don't know how all eight of these guys feel
about that, and I think that'll determine what people think
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about the job.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, we've talked a lot about you know, what the
Jaguars had to offer the quarterback, the salary cap, the
twenty draft picks in the next two years, sparkling new facilities,
an owner that won't meddle and will spend. But when
you look at the other jobs open compared to this one,
you see that the Jets don't have a quarterback, and
by the way, they don't have a quarterback. Neither do
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the Raiders. This is not a good year to need
a quarterback. And so when you look at the quarterback issue,
it's front and center number one. If you believe that
Trevor Lawrence has good football in front of him, all
the other reasons that I mentioned, and then what John
talked about the quarterback make this his appealing a job
as possible. I mean, you can look at all the
other circumstances and situations, whether it's the Bears and playing
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in that hyper competitive NFC North Division or the Saints
who have a salary cap disaster sitting in front of them,
this job is as attractive as any.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
All Right, Our final big thing is going to be
EVP That was mentioned during the Executive vice president that
was mentioned during the media availability with Shadkhan and Trent
bal Key, and Shad con was asked whether he'd consider
hiring also an executive vice president.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
You know, it's got to be the right person, Okay,
and it's got to be And frankly, I mean we
need to add some people. I mean we're lean, but
you know, if you look at again on you know,
the football side, I mean we've added people, We've changed
some people, and if we find the right person.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Definitely, Ryan, how promising is this is real possibility to
kind of get someone else in there to help make
some of these decisions.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, I mean, to me, it's very promising because I
want Tony BISSELLI right. I know that that's a name
that's been bantered about. And listen, it worked for the
Ravens with Ozzie Newsom, It's worked for the Broncos with
John Elway. It has worked with John Lynch in that
role in San Francisco where that person who represents but
Lynch doesn't represent the Niners like Tony would represent the Jaguars.
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But I think he would be a really good person
to put into that role. And I think it's something
that he would excel at. And so if the possibility
exists that Tony can come in in a role that
has an impact on improving the football operation. And more
importantly than that, John setting the Jaguar away. I mean,
we hear about how the Steelers do it, and how
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the Patriots do it, and how these championship franchises do it.
We don't have that here in Jacksonville right now. I
think Tony Biselli would be a good person to be
able to institute that because he was here during the
Golden era. He has the yellow jacket, the gold jacket
that signifies his level of excellence as a player, and
he's around the National Football League, and he cares. He
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cares a lot. In fact, I would suggest that there
isn't anybody that Shod could hire that would care about
the franchise and guard it as much as he would
other than Tony Boselli.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, I think Tony be a home run.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I answer your question Kai, how big of a possibility
is that? I don't think Shod would have mentioned it
Monday if he wasn't thinking about it. If you recall
Shod in the interview process when he hired Tom Coffin
for this. When he goes into this interview process, he
often is trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What will work the best.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
He's often listening to candidates and trying to figure out, Okay,
with the people available, how can I make this work.
He's an engineer member, so he likes to figure out
the system that will work. So I think the fact
that he's talking about it Monday saying if he finds
the right person, I think Tony's the right person. I
don't know how Shod feels about that because he doesn't
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really talk talk about that sort of thing, but uh,
I do think it's an absolute possibility. Uh, because it
was mentioned on Monday in a prominent situation.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
We'll keep an eye on it throughout the coming weeks
as well as through this coaching search. So we have
eight names of people that are they are hoping to
come in. We're gonna talk about them coming up after
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Speaker 8 (08:31):
I don't really know.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
I know we're a young team, you know, so I
would definitely love to have some one, you know, kind
of relatable to us, you know, in a sense, you know,
somebody with some passion. I love for somebody with some
passion and somebody just showing them about what we got
going on here.
Speaker 10 (08:47):
Just somebody wants to win. Just somebody wants to be
around a guys, somebody who's who's eat it fired up,
uh with the opportunity to uh just help us uh
go and ultimately win the Super Bowl when I first
to go here and uh that's what we all want
and uh for somebody want somewhere.
Speaker 11 (09:00):
I think that's a tough question to answer right now.
I just think obviously we're all processing the end of
the season. We're all reflecting on just us ourselves individually
and as a team, because like I said, we all
had a hand in this. So I think the important
thing right now is to just reflect personally on where
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you can do better going forward, all the learning opportunities
that were taken from this year and really focus on that.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
And the Jaguars players clearing out their lockers this week
sounding off about what they would like to see in
their new head coach, Christian Kirk always wise pointing out
that there's a lot of other stuff that needs to
change as well as in just a coaching thing. Players
have to get on board as well. But we've now
got eight names coming out, you guys, that were announced
by the team that they want to have an interview
request with them. So I split the list. It's about
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half offensive coordinators, half defensive guys or former head coaches.
So which way do we Is it stylistic? But the
person what kind of goes into this process? Brian, when
you're looking at something like.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, I think John and I probably both take the
same approach on this is it doesn't matter to me
whether he's an offensive coach or a defensive coach, or
what scheme he runs. What matters to me is that
he's a head coach, that he's that leader that everyone
will follow, that he has.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
The very specific vision.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know, the Lions are the great example because everyone's
looking at them and what they've done is unbelievable. Turning
that thing around. Dan Campbell was the tight ends coach
and assistant head coach in New Orleans. He was not
a hot name. In fact, when the Lions hired him,
people were scratching their head, thinking, really, but look at
what he's done. I mean, for all that Ben Johnson
and Aaron Glenn, who are both on that list have
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done on their sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
The culture change.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Which we all experienced when we were there last summer
and spent the week practicing with them. The culture change
is due to Dan Campbell, and that is very much
a philosophy, a style, more than what side of the
ball he's on.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I did a Jaguars dot Com Head Coach Tracker, which
you can find on Jaguars because that's why it's called
the Jaguars dot Com Head Coach Tracker, And in part
of it, I'm listing offensive rankings and defensive rankings.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
To me, those matter not a bit.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
It's great that a Ben Johnson, for example, is leading
the Lions offense to these great numbers. Can the guy
stand in front of the room. Do players when the
guy stops talking and they go off to themselves, do
they believe in that guy or are they going If
you're going, meh, then you can't win. So I think
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we're talking about the same thing. They have to be
able to set the tone, they have to have the
vision for the franchise, and the players have to believe
in the message. And I believe that that guy is
the right guy, and that's.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
What most of the players.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
I think we're kind of stumbling around trying to say
they want the right guy and the guy they can
believe in, whether they're an offensive guy defensive guy. The
only caveat to all that is in this day and age,
I do believe there is an advantage if you find
the right offensive guy, then if the no matter who
the coordinator is, the system can stay the same and
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the quarterback can have continuity in that system. That's not
to say you have to have that, but if you
can find that, I think that is an advantage over
a ten year period. But guess what, if you don't
find the right guy right then all that doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
When you're searching like the Jaguars have been searching. What's
important to note is that if I'm interviewing somebody, I
want to know who are going to bring on your staff?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I didn't realize this, but Ben Johnson did not go
as the offensive coordinator to Detroit. He went from Miami,
where he was a receiver's coach, to be a receivers
coach in Detroit, and they fired Anthony Lynn, who was
here's one point, as the running backs coach, and they
identified him as a talent, good coach, and then of
course gave him the opportunity and he grew.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
So I want to know who are you bringing with you?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Who are the exciting, dynamic, talented coaches that you will
attract to come be part of your staff.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think we might recognize one of them, considering in
quarterbacks coach in Detroit. I'm sure he wouldn't mind coming
back to Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
You're talking about Mark Renold.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Oh maybe that guy?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yeah, And Mark's at that stage. He's been a quarterbacks
coach for a couple of years. You know, he's at
that point where next job as a coordinator.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I could see Mark as a head coach some day.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
So he's been a head coach before at a tech.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's it's just it's it's interesting this process and how
long and detailed it is, and everyone's looking for answers immediately.
But they're gonna go through that list with a fine
tooth calm. I know two of those guys personally because.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
They were here.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Robert Sala, who I thought was was going to be
a star with the Jets. I mean, he's such a leader.
It goes to show you the circumstances have something to
do with it, because he never had the quarterback that
gave him that opportunity, and when he thought he did
with Aaron Rogers was hurt in the first series of
his tenure.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
There.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Good football coach.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I don't know whether he's seriously in the mix on
this one, but a good coach. And then Todd Munkin,
who you know, left here and went to college football
Oklahoma State, Southern miss and then Georgia and then has
reinvented himself with.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
You know, maybe the MVP in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
And again a guy who's been in front of the
room before and is a really solid human being, a
kind of guy that people will trust.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So I liked seeing both of those names.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
On there named a former head coach, named coordinator, a
first time offensive coordinator and Ben Johnson, that's a hot
name out there. Is there a preference of having experience
already as a head coach? Obviously we've seen both here.
Obviously Erin Meyer comes in to get Doug who's already
been there, done that, been around for a long time.
Does that matter or is it mostly what you can
bring and what your plan is?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, if you know that these are all great questions.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
If you're the right guy, then at some point you
have to you know, just because you haven't done it
doesn't mean you can't go do it.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
You can't never done it.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
So I do think there is a appeal to having
a guy who's the adult in the room, which Todd
Mounkin unfortunately Brian. I think he's the only one even
close to our age. So and I think there's an
appeal to that because you've seen it before and there
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are challenges a head coach. Any head coach will tell
you the first time they figure it out, it's like, oh,
this is not the jobs I've had before. This is
every day there's somebody in my office with a problem.
But my guess is it will be a younger guy
because that feels like the trend and the quarterback connection.
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I just have to believe that there will be a
quarterback connection and it feels like a coordinator type deal
is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Both of of the guys in Detroit interest me because
they will have been shaped by the circumstances. They will
have seen a rough start. I think Dan Camill went
o to eight to get started. Yeah, and they will
have seen a franchise that was used to they had
a losing culture be transformed into a juggernaut. I mean,
what they've got going there is incredible. So either of
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those two guys and Aaron Glenn doesn't get the same
attention because that offense is just exploding. But you hear
the guys who work around Aaron Glenn and you think,
and Aaron's a guy that was here in two thousand
and seven. He was a part of that really good
defense that helped power the Jaguars to the divisional round
of the playoffs that year. And Jeff Loginman knows him
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very well, A really an excellent football player, and I
told him excellent tactician and coach and a guy who
sure seems to have the personality to get up in
front of the room.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
So I mean he's a feeling, Yeah, he's appealing.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
He's a strong personality, Yeah, strong personality and has been
around a bit, so that would not be.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
There would be a lot to like if that's the direction.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I mean, I think both coordinators in Detroit deserve the
kind of attention and the star next to their name
because of what they have been shaped by and the
way that they have grown both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think Glenn impressive as of late as well. What
he's been able to do with the injuries on defense,
and then for them to have that game against the
Vikings in the season. I mean, just that alone is
impressive to be able to have that many players behind
and come up and still play that well.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Well, when you lose a player like Aiden Hutchinson and
you don't make that, they trade for Zadaria Smith and
you bring him in, and I mean right away he
has an impact and that doesn't always happen, so I
mean he's obviously a guy who strategically gets it.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Just one more comment. We're looking at some of these
offensive coordinators that we want to come in, and just
because it's been a controversy in the past about play calling,
if you were making the decision and you were hiring
one of these offensive guys, would you want them to
be the primary play caller.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Maybe, But again the whole play calling thing.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
That has to be the quarter the head coach's choice,
and it depends on how he feels about that system.
So sure, but again I don't get into the whole
play calling thing. This last year, I still.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Think it was overblown.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
That guy has to be the direction of the offense,
and whatever coordinator you're gonna have. He's going to be
the I mean, whatever coach, he's going to be the
spirit of the offense. How he handles the mechanism, I
think you gotta leave up to him.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
They all have such a influence.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean, I always thought that the Press Taylor Doug
Peterson stuff was overblown because Press wasn't gonna do what
Doug didn't want him to do with his offense, and
Doug didn't spend any time on defense.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Doug was in the offensive.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
They were in lockstep.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They were in lockstown.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
The new guy will be in lockstep if he's an
offensive coach. If it's been uh Van Johnson and Mark's
the coordinator, for example, I don't know that'll be. Then
Ben will probably call the plays with Mark or vice versa.
But they'll be in each other's headset. They'll be on
each other's desks all week, right, So it'll be sort
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of the same dynamic, except whatever it is, well probably.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Made clearer than it was in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And it's worth pointing out in the Great Era of
the Jaguars, where Tom Coughlin was the head coach and
he had Mark Brunell and Jimmy Smith and Fred Taylor,
and I mean they were loaded.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Tom didn't called places right.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
He had a heavy hand in what went on, but
he had, you know, Kevin Gilbride or Chris Palmer. I mean,
he had those guys who ran the offense for him.
Because he wanted to focus on being the head coach.
He wanted to be engaged on the sideline in the
entire game and not over talking to the quarterback or
the offensive line. Now he'd go do that, but for
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a head coach, you've got to be engaged with the
team on the field and the officials and the clock.
And I think, think I want my head coach to
bring in an offensive coordinator who is strong enough that
he's confident enough in that he can say, this is
what we're gonna do, and then he goes and does
what a head coach does, trust him to execute.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
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Speaker 7 (20:34):
Think so, I mean, if our defense would improve, you know,
get to the middle of the pact. But we were
watch to intend this year. I mean, how many of
those games you know we could win? And I think
the schemes on offense just being less predictable. I think,
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you know, we could be more productive on offense, and
we have the ability through the draft coming up and
salary cap to be able to you know, use that
to get more specific players we were seeking. So I mean,
I expect this, you know, for us to have success
very quickly.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
This oh this, oh hey, a little this or that
shot kind expecting a quick turnaround here, but we got
to figure out exactly what went wrong. Obviously there's going
to be a new head coach, new leader in charge,
but some of the players weighed in earlier this week
about some issues that they saw throughout the season.
Speaker 12 (21:32):
I don't think we had enough synergy as a group.
I think there were times where certain guys are playing
their butt off, and as a group, we didn't all
show up at the same time. That's kind of what
it felt like. It was like trying to cover for
one guy not doing his job and then he gets
out of position and that kind of was like this
went down to.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Total Bowl for us, it's this we have to learn
how to win and learn how to take winning. Like
obviously we know how to win games, but when it
comes to being consistent with winning in the NFL, you
have to bring it week in and week out, and
sometimes it's just certain sacrifice that certain players or individuals
how to make.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Similar things are seen throughout miss assignments, you know, putting
in that effort, getting that full buy in.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Jon. This is stuff we've been talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yes, that's something a coach needs to put into place,
but players have to buy in as well. So is
there plenty of blame to go around? Is it one
more than the other?
Speaker 6 (22:18):
With that, I think it's plenty of blame to go around,
and you know, I think the coach is responsible for it,
But I said all season, I think the players still
have to be a group that takes it by the
you know, the horns if you will, and decides they're
not going to lose. And I still think that there
has to be an element of that and to rally
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around the coach. But I think there are they need
more key veteran players who are ready to be that guy.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I've heard culture defined by coaches as what you expect
and what you accept, right, and the expectation level has
to be set, and then you have to vigorously guard
that and it's the players that really guard it.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
They have to buy in.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
As you heard Treyvon Lawrence say, Treyvon Lawrence, Trevon Walker
say this week, you have to have the players that
will hold the standard that the coach sets. And again
I go back to what Dan Campbell talked about, and
there are many NFL films clips of him talking about
guys that belong in their locker room and guys that
belong as part of that process of what they were
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doing in Detroit, and then all those players held everyone
to that standard. So that's really what you're looking for,
is the guy that can come in and set the
expectations that the players then.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Will say this is what we expected.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
One another go into the season.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
We're obviously going to see some player changes as well,
free agents and pending free agents, and possibly some of
the higher paid players that are entering the end of
their contracts, specifically Evan Ingram and Christian Kirk, both of
them weighing in on whether or not they want to
be here next year.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
Yeah, I would love to be here, and I mean
I'm under contract still. Obviously there's other things that I
can't really control. So I'm just kind of focused on
being healthy again next next year, being healthy this offseason,
getting healthy, and just being the best player that I
can be, because you know, I feel like I've proven
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that when I'm on the field. Uh, you know, I
am one of those players that is one of the
better ones on the field. And so I'm just looking
forward to to getting back to that. And I wanted
to be here in Jacksonville.
Speaker 13 (24:31):
Like I said, there's a lot of changes that are
coming when you have seasons like this, So that's up
to God. I think, uh, you know, I I wanna
be here. I have a home here, and I think
this is this is a special place to do something
great and I wanna continue to grind to do that.
So but that's all out of my control. And uh,
like I said, this is unfortunate thing about having a
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season like this. There's gonna be a lot of changes,
and uh, you never know what side you're gonna be on.
But definitely, uh, definitely wanna be here, John.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I think both these guys have been around long enough,
they know how this kind of works. Is it feasible
that both of them could be back next year?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Very doubtful that both of them are back. I hope
they're both back.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I mean, it's iffy that either of them are back,
really be but saying that it's because we don't know
what the direction of the coach who comes in, how
that's going to look.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
There's meetings to be had. They will decide that.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Christian's salary cap number is huge, Evan's salary cap number
is big compared to Brenton strangers who came in, and
I don't know, I don't know that there's.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
A emission of a drop off. I hope both they're back.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I'm afraid we're saying goodbye to at least one really
good guy.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
They're total pros the way that they handle themselves on
the field and in the locker room. Christians to the
expensive point of his career. Right when you sign a
free agent, generally you're looking at a three year deal here,
no matter what the fourth does. But they're getting to,
you know, twenty four million dollars and he's a nine
million dollar savings and Kai there's not just gonna be
a chain the coaching suite. There's a change on the field.
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There's a new number one. There's a new sheriff in
town and his number is number seven, and Brian Thomas
Junior has got to become the focal point of the offense.
Evan is a nineteen million dollar cap with about thirteen
million in dead money, so he's about six million in savings.
So you have to decide, you know, the offense how
it's going to run. But everybody has to understand that
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the ball is going through seven now, not through Christian,
not through Evan.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It's gonna be some difficult decisions to be made that
will monitor throughout the off season. So stick with us.
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Speaker 14 (26:49):
I mean, I'm sorry for what I've came out and
did this season, but I mean it doesn't I mean
doesn't stop. Now. He's got to keep going keep pushing.
I mean, like someone I always trying to come in
and take your spot. So just come in, keep pushing it,
and keep putting your best before it each and every day.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Brian Thomas Jr. For sure the bright spot from this season.
Disappointment elsewhere, but he's been amazing. We do want to
talk quickly about this coaching search. We will be away
for about a month, so what's a realistic timeline you
guys think early February we might know who this might be.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Could be anywhere from January twentieth ish. Yeah, I'd be
early to post super Bowl, so you gotta keep.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
The door upen.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I would think the week of the super Bowl might
be a good opportunity for them to make that sort.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Of an announcement.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
We'll be back the week after the super Bowl talking
about it and whoever the new head coaches. So enjoy
the off season.
Welcome to Jagsam. I'm Pennanni Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Oser
with me our final jags Am of the regular season.
We're gonna talk things out. There's a coaching search coming
up and a lot going on in the off season.
So big thing number one and so it begins. Doug
Peterson released of his duties as head coach, so that
means being now looking for a new head coach and
leader of this team. Treen Balki says, the search is
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going to start right away.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I think you think the short answer to that is yes.
I mean, we're gonna move quickly to get some people
lined up to talk to How long that process takes.
I think Sean mentioned it's going to take as long
as it takes to identify the right individual. And is
that one interview? Is that two interviews? I think you
know we're going to do our due diligence and be
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very thorough in this process.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Brian, we already know eight people that they're bringing in
for interview or they've requested interviews that I should say,
but talk us through this timeline a little bit because
it is different to seear than we see.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
In the past.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, I think that this process is going to be
slower than people have imagined because the league is intentionally
trying to push back the hiring date. They're trying to
be more inclusive and have more potential candidates. Obviously, that's
been something they've been working at for quite a lot
of time. Guy, And you can't do an in person
interview with someone who's under contract until after the divisional rounds,
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so not at next week, but the week after next week.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Is the first week that you can do in person interviews.
So everything is going to be virtual.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I think the window is Wednesday, Thursday through Sunday this week,
and then it tightens down a little bit, so a
lot of teams are scrambling to get this first round
of virtual interviews in before that deadline hits. John, this
is a process that looks like it might take all
the way up till Super Bowl for most of these twas,
So that's kind of the way the league is setting
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it up well.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I think people who followed the last Jaguars coaching search
sort of have a feel for the pace. Doug Peterson interviewed.
I forget the exact timeline, but it was a long time.
A month between first interview and actual hiring. So the
league has tried to do that with the idea of
being to allow the divisional round coaches Championship game coach
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is a legitimate a legitimate chance to be in the mix,
and frankly, it's worked. The process has slowed. Five or
six years ago, it felt like the high you could
interview a head coach and there'd be guys announced like
next week. I don't anticipate that, and that's good because
it does allow teams to take their time and try
(02:45):
to find the right guy. And Brian, that's the most
important thing is finding the right guy, not the first guy.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I think so, And there is also the possibility that
names can be added to that list of eight. Someone
along the way comes to mind, someone that you maybe
not have heard a lot about, or that isn't in
the pup guy as much. And we'll both say this, John,
it's about finding the right guy and if that takes
thirty days, she'll be it. But I don't think the
Jaguars will behind the curve at all because every team
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is following these new guidelines.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
They are, which leads into our second big thing, which
is top spot. There's six openings right now for head
coaches around the NFL, and obviously we know what the
Jaguars have going on in their division and what's been there. John,
How appealing is this opening compared to some of the
other ones.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Well, I think it's appealing in the sense that you
have an owner who supports, You have an owner who
doesn't meddle.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You have.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
An owner who will clearly spend whatever it takes. You've
got Florida, you have this building we're sitting in the MEC.
I said yesterday and I'll continue saying it. I think
the job is as appealing as the candidate likes Trevor Lawrence,
and I think most candidates will like that very much.
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You have a young quarterback. He's been injured, but you know,
before that injury in twenty three playing at a high level.
If he scratched the surface, there's something there. Brian, I
think if you're a Trevor Lawrence guy, it's the best job.
I don't know how all eight of these guys feel
about that, and I think that'll determine what people think
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about the job.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, we've talked a lot about you know, what the
Jaguars had to offer the quarterback, the salary cap, the
twenty draft picks in the next two years, sparkling new facilities,
an owner that won't meddle and will spend. But when
you look at the other jobs open compared to this one,
you see that the Jets don't have a quarterback, and
by the way, they don't have a quarterback. Neither do
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the Raiders. This is not a good year to need
a quarterback. And so when you look at the quarterback issue,
it's front and center number one. If you believe that
Trevor Lawrence has good football in front of him, all
the other reasons that I mentioned, and then what John
talked about the quarterback make this his appealing a job
as possible. I mean, you can look at all the
other circumstances and situations, whether it's the Bears and playing
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in that hyper competitive NFC North Division or the Saints
who have a salary cap disaster sitting in front of them,
this job is as attractive as any.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
All Right, Our final big thing is going to be
EVP That was mentioned during the Executive vice president that
was mentioned during the media availability with Shadkhan and Trent
bal Key, and Shad con was asked whether he'd consider
hiring also an executive vice president.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
You know, it's got to be the right person, Okay,
and it's got to be And frankly, I mean we
need to add some people. I mean we're lean, but
you know, if you look at again on you know,
the football side, I mean we've added people, We've changed
some people, and if we find the right person.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Definitely, Ryan, how promising is this is real possibility to
kind of get someone else in there to help make
some of these decisions.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Well, I mean, to me, it's very promising because I
want Tony BISSELLI right. I know that that's a name
that's been bantered about. And listen, it worked for the
Ravens with Ozzie Newsom, It's worked for the Broncos with
John Elway. It has worked with John Lynch in that
role in San Francisco where that person who represents but
Lynch doesn't represent the Niners like Tony would represent the Jaguars.
(06:22):
But I think he would be a really good person
to put into that role. And I think it's something
that he would excel at. And so if the possibility
exists that Tony can come in in a role that
has an impact on improving the football operation. And more
importantly than that, John setting the Jaguar away. I mean,
we hear about how the Steelers do it, and how
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the Patriots do it, and how these championship franchises do it.
We don't have that here in Jacksonville right now. I
think Tony Biselli would be a good person to be
able to institute that because he was here during the
Golden era. He has the yellow jacket, the gold jacket
that signifies his level of excellence as a player, and
he's around the National Football League, and he cares. He
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cares a lot. In fact, I would suggest that there
isn't anybody that Shod could hire that would care about
the franchise and guard it as much as he would
other than Tony Boselli.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, I think Tony be a home run.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I answer your question Kai, how big of a possibility
is that? I don't think Shod would have mentioned it
Monday if he wasn't thinking about it. If you recall
Shod in the interview process when he hired Tom Coffin
for this. When he goes into this interview process, he
often is trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What will work the best.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
He's often listening to candidates and trying to figure out, Okay,
with the people available, how can I make this work.
He's an engineer member, so he likes to figure out
the system that will work. So I think the fact
that he's talking about it Monday saying if he finds
the right person, I think Tony's the right person. I
don't know how Shod feels about that because he doesn't
(07:59):
really talk talk about that sort of thing, but uh,
I do think it's an absolute possibility. Uh, because it
was mentioned on Monday in a prominent situation.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
We'll keep an eye on it throughout the coming weeks
as well as through this coaching search. So we have
eight names of people that are they are hoping to
come in. We're gonna talk about them coming up after
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Speaker 8 (08:31):
I don't really know.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
I know we're a young team, you know, so I
would definitely love to have some one, you know, kind
of relatable to us, you know, in a sense, you know,
somebody with some passion. I love for somebody with some
passion and somebody just showing them about what we got
going on here.
Speaker 10 (08:47):
Just somebody wants to win. Just somebody wants to be
around a guys, somebody who's who's eat it fired up,
uh with the opportunity to uh just help us uh
go and ultimately win the Super Bowl when I first
to go here and uh that's what we all want
and uh for somebody want somewhere.
Speaker 11 (09:00):
I think that's a tough question to answer right now.
I just think obviously we're all processing the end of
the season. We're all reflecting on just us ourselves individually
and as a team, because like I said, we all
had a hand in this. So I think the important
thing right now is to just reflect personally on where
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you can do better going forward, all the learning opportunities
that were taken from this year and really focus on that.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
And the Jaguars players clearing out their lockers this week
sounding off about what they would like to see in
their new head coach, Christian Kirk always wise pointing out
that there's a lot of other stuff that needs to
change as well as in just a coaching thing. Players
have to get on board as well. But we've now
got eight names coming out, you guys, that were announced
by the team that they want to have an interview
request with them. So I split the list. It's about
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half offensive coordinators, half defensive guys or former head coaches.
So which way do we Is it stylistic? But the
person what kind of goes into this process? Brian, when
you're looking at something like.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, I think John and I probably both take the
same approach on this is it doesn't matter to me
whether he's an offensive coach or a defensive coach, or
what scheme he runs. What matters to me is that
he's a head coach, that he's that leader that everyone
will follow, that he has.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
The very specific vision.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know, the Lions are the great example because everyone's
looking at them and what they've done is unbelievable. Turning
that thing around. Dan Campbell was the tight ends coach
and assistant head coach in New Orleans. He was not
a hot name. In fact, when the Lions hired him,
people were scratching their head, thinking, really, but look at
what he's done. I mean, for all that Ben Johnson
and Aaron Glenn, who are both on that list have
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done on their sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
The culture change.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Which we all experienced when we were there last summer
and spent the week practicing with them. The culture change
is due to Dan Campbell, and that is very much
a philosophy, a style, more than what side of the
ball he's on.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I did a Jaguars dot Com Head Coach Tracker, which
you can find on Jaguars because that's why it's called
the Jaguars dot Com Head Coach Tracker, And in part
of it, I'm listing offensive rankings and defensive rankings.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
To me, those matter not a bit.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
It's great that a Ben Johnson, for example, is leading
the Lions offense to these great numbers. Can the guy
stand in front of the room. Do players when the
guy stops talking and they go off to themselves, do
they believe in that guy or are they going If
you're going, meh, then you can't win. So I think
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we're talking about the same thing. They have to be
able to set the tone, they have to have the
vision for the franchise, and the players have to believe
in the message. And I believe that that guy is
the right guy, and that's.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
What most of the players.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
I think we're kind of stumbling around trying to say
they want the right guy and the guy they can
believe in, whether they're an offensive guy defensive guy. The
only caveat to all that is in this day and age,
I do believe there is an advantage if you find
the right offensive guy, then if the no matter who
the coordinator is, the system can stay the same and
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the quarterback can have continuity in that system. That's not
to say you have to have that, but if you
can find that, I think that is an advantage over
a ten year period. But guess what, if you don't
find the right guy right then all that doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
When you're searching like the Jaguars have been searching. What's
important to note is that if I'm interviewing somebody, I
want to know who are going to bring on your staff?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I didn't realize this, but Ben Johnson did not go
as the offensive coordinator to Detroit. He went from Miami,
where he was a receiver's coach, to be a receivers
coach in Detroit, and they fired Anthony Lynn, who was
here's one point, as the running backs coach, and they
identified him as a talent, good coach, and then of
course gave him the opportunity and he grew.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
So I want to know who are you bringing with you?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Who are the exciting, dynamic, talented coaches that you will
attract to come be part of your staff.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think we might recognize one of them, considering in
quarterbacks coach in Detroit. I'm sure he wouldn't mind coming
back to Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
You're talking about Mark Renold.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Oh maybe that guy?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yeah, And Mark's at that stage. He's been a quarterbacks
coach for a couple of years. You know, he's at
that point where next job as a coordinator.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I could see Mark as a head coach some day.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
So he's been a head coach before at a tech.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's it's just it's it's interesting this process and how
long and detailed it is, and everyone's looking for answers immediately.
But they're gonna go through that list with a fine
tooth calm. I know two of those guys personally because.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
They were here.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Robert Sala, who I thought was was going to be
a star with the Jets. I mean, he's such a leader.
It goes to show you the circumstances have something to
do with it, because he never had the quarterback that
gave him that opportunity, and when he thought he did
with Aaron Rogers was hurt in the first series of
his tenure.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
There.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Good football coach.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I don't know whether he's seriously in the mix on
this one, but a good coach. And then Todd Munkin,
who you know, left here and went to college football
Oklahoma State, Southern miss and then Georgia and then has
reinvented himself with.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
You know, maybe the MVP in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
And again a guy who's been in front of the
room before and is a really solid human being, a
kind of guy that people will trust.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So I liked seeing both of those names.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
On there named a former head coach, named coordinator, a
first time offensive coordinator and Ben Johnson, that's a hot
name out there. Is there a preference of having experience
already as a head coach? Obviously we've seen both here.
Obviously Erin Meyer comes in to get Doug who's already
been there, done that, been around for a long time.
Does that matter or is it mostly what you can
bring and what your plan is?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, if you know that these are all great questions.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
If you're the right guy, then at some point you
have to you know, just because you haven't done it
doesn't mean you can't go do it.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
You can't never done it.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
So I do think there is a appeal to having
a guy who's the adult in the room, which Todd
Mounkin unfortunately Brian. I think he's the only one even
close to our age. So and I think there's an
appeal to that because you've seen it before and there
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are challenges a head coach. Any head coach will tell
you the first time they figure it out, it's like, oh,
this is not the jobs I've had before. This is
every day there's somebody in my office with a problem.
But my guess is it will be a younger guy
because that feels like the trend and the quarterback connection.
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I just have to believe that there will be a
quarterback connection and it feels like a coordinator type deal
is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Both of of the guys in Detroit interest me because
they will have been shaped by the circumstances. They will
have seen a rough start. I think Dan Camill went
o to eight to get started. Yeah, and they will
have seen a franchise that was used to they had
a losing culture be transformed into a juggernaut. I mean,
what they've got going there is incredible. So either of
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those two guys and Aaron Glenn doesn't get the same
attention because that offense is just exploding. But you hear
the guys who work around Aaron Glenn and you think,
and Aaron's a guy that was here in two thousand
and seven. He was a part of that really good
defense that helped power the Jaguars to the divisional round
of the playoffs that year. And Jeff Loginman knows him
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very well, A really an excellent football player, and I
told him excellent tactician and coach and a guy who
sure seems to have the personality to get up in
front of the room.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
So I mean he's a feeling, Yeah, he's appealing.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
He's a strong personality, Yeah, strong personality and has been
around a bit, so that would not be.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
There would be a lot to like if that's the direction.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I mean, I think both coordinators in Detroit deserve the
kind of attention and the star next to their name
because of what they have been shaped by and the
way that they have grown both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I think Glenn impressive as of late as well. What
he's been able to do with the injuries on defense,
and then for them to have that game against the
Vikings in the season. I mean, just that alone is
impressive to be able to have that many players behind
and come up and still play that well.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Well, when you lose a player like Aiden Hutchinson and
you don't make that, they trade for Zadaria Smith and
you bring him in, and I mean right away he
has an impact and that doesn't always happen, so I
mean he's obviously a guy who strategically gets it.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Just one more comment. We're looking at some of these
offensive coordinators that we want to come in, and just
because it's been a controversy in the past about play calling,
if you were making the decision and you were hiring
one of these offensive guys, would you want them to
be the primary play caller.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Maybe, But again the whole play calling thing.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
That has to be the quarter the head coach's choice,
and it depends on how he feels about that system.
So sure, but again I don't get into the whole
play calling thing. This last year, I still.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Think it was overblown.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
That guy has to be the direction of the offense,
and whatever coordinator you're gonna have. He's going to be
the I mean, whatever coach, he's going to be the
spirit of the offense. How he handles the mechanism, I
think you gotta leave up to him.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
They all have such a influence.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean, I always thought that the Press Taylor Doug
Peterson stuff was overblown because Press wasn't gonna do what
Doug didn't want him to do with his offense, and
Doug didn't spend any time on defense.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Doug was in the offensive.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
They were in lockstep.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They were in lockstown.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
The new guy will be in lockstep if he's an
offensive coach. If it's been uh Van Johnson and Mark's
the coordinator, for example, I don't know that'll be. Then
Ben will probably call the plays with Mark or vice versa.
But they'll be in each other's headset. They'll be on
each other's desks all week, right, So it'll be sort
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of the same dynamic, except whatever it is, well probably.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Made clearer than it was in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And it's worth pointing out in the Great Era of
the Jaguars, where Tom Coughlin was the head coach and
he had Mark Brunell and Jimmy Smith and Fred Taylor,
and I mean they were loaded.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Tom didn't called places right.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
He had a heavy hand in what went on, but
he had, you know, Kevin Gilbride or Chris Palmer. I mean,
he had those guys who ran the offense for him.
Because he wanted to focus on being the head coach.
He wanted to be engaged on the sideline in the
entire game and not over talking to the quarterback or
the offensive line. Now he'd go do that, but for
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a head coach, you've got to be engaged with the
team on the field and the officials and the clock.
And I think, think I want my head coach to
bring in an offensive coordinator who is strong enough that
he's confident enough in that he can say, this is
what we're gonna do, and then he goes and does
what a head coach does, trust him to execute.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
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Speaker 7 (20:34):
Think so, I mean, if our defense would improve, you know,
get to the middle of the pact. But we were
watch to intend this year. I mean, how many of
those games you know we could win? And I think
the schemes on offense just being less predictable. I think,
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you know, we could be more productive on offense, and
we have the ability through the draft coming up and
salary cap to be able to you know, use that
to get more specific players we were seeking. So I mean,
I expect this, you know, for us to have success
very quickly.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
This oh this, oh hey, a little this or that
shot kind expecting a quick turnaround here, but we got
to figure out exactly what went wrong. Obviously there's going
to be a new head coach, new leader in charge,
but some of the players weighed in earlier this week
about some issues that they saw throughout the season.
Speaker 12 (21:32):
I don't think we had enough synergy as a group.
I think there were times where certain guys are playing
their butt off, and as a group, we didn't all
show up at the same time. That's kind of what
it felt like. It was like trying to cover for
one guy not doing his job and then he gets
out of position and that kind of was like this
went down to.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Total Bowl for us, it's this we have to learn
how to win and learn how to take winning. Like
obviously we know how to win games, but when it
comes to being consistent with winning in the NFL, you
have to bring it week in and week out, and
sometimes it's just certain sacrifice that certain players or individuals
how to make.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Similar things are seen throughout miss assignments, you know, putting
in that effort, getting that full buy in.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Jon. This is stuff we've been talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yes, that's something a coach needs to put into place,
but players have to buy in as well. So is
there plenty of blame to go around? Is it one
more than the other?
Speaker 6 (22:18):
With that, I think it's plenty of blame to go around,
and you know, I think the coach is responsible for it,
But I said all season, I think the players still
have to be a group that takes it by the
you know, the horns if you will, and decides they're
not going to lose. And I still think that there
has to be an element of that and to rally
(22:42):
around the coach. But I think there are they need
more key veteran players who are ready to be that guy.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I've heard culture defined by coaches as what you expect
and what you accept, right, and the expectation level has
to be set, and then you have to vigorously guard
that and it's the players that really guard it.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
They have to buy in.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
As you heard Treyvon Lawrence say, Treyvon Lawrence, Trevon Walker
say this week, you have to have the players that
will hold the standard that the coach sets. And again
I go back to what Dan Campbell talked about, and
there are many NFL films clips of him talking about
guys that belong in their locker room and guys that
belong as part of that process of what they were
(23:28):
doing in Detroit, and then all those players held everyone
to that standard. So that's really what you're looking for,
is the guy that can come in and set the
expectations that the players then.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Will say this is what we expected.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
One another go into the season.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
We're obviously going to see some player changes as well,
free agents and pending free agents, and possibly some of
the higher paid players that are entering the end of
their contracts, specifically Evan Ingram and Christian Kirk, both of
them weighing in on whether or not they want to
be here next year.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
Yeah, I would love to be here, and I mean
I'm under contract still. Obviously there's other things that I
can't really control. So I'm just kind of focused on
being healthy again next next year, being healthy this offseason,
getting healthy, and just being the best player that I
can be, because you know, I feel like I've proven
(24:19):
that when I'm on the field. Uh, you know, I
am one of those players that is one of the
better ones on the field. And so I'm just looking
forward to to getting back to that. And I wanted
to be here in Jacksonville.
Speaker 13 (24:31):
Like I said, there's a lot of changes that are
coming when you have seasons like this, So that's up
to God. I think, uh, you know, I I wanna
be here. I have a home here, and I think
this is this is a special place to do something
great and I wanna continue to grind to do that.
So but that's all out of my control. And uh,
like I said, this is unfortunate thing about having a
(24:53):
season like this. There's gonna be a lot of changes,
and uh, you never know what side you're gonna be on.
But definitely, uh, definitely wanna be here, John.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I think both these guys have been around long enough,
they know how this kind of works. Is it feasible
that both of them could be back next year?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Very doubtful that both of them are back. I hope
they're both back.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I mean, it's iffy that either of them are back,
really be but saying that it's because we don't know
what the direction of the coach who comes in, how
that's going to look.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
There's meetings to be had. They will decide that.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Christian's salary cap number is huge, Evan's salary cap number
is big compared to Brenton strangers who came in, and
I don't know, I don't know that there's.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
A emission of a drop off. I hope both they're back.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I'm afraid we're saying goodbye to at least one really
good guy.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
They're total pros the way that they handle themselves on
the field and in the locker room. Christians to the
expensive point of his career. Right when you sign a
free agent, generally you're looking at a three year deal here,
no matter what the fourth does. But they're getting to,
you know, twenty four million dollars and he's a nine
million dollar savings and Kai there's not just gonna be
a chain the coaching suite. There's a change on the field.
(26:02):
There's a new number one. There's a new sheriff in
town and his number is number seven, and Brian Thomas
Junior has got to become the focal point of the offense.
Evan is a nineteen million dollar cap with about thirteen
million in dead money, so he's about six million in savings.
So you have to decide, you know, the offense how
it's going to run. But everybody has to understand that
(26:23):
the ball is going through seven now, not through Christian,
not through Evan.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It's gonna be some difficult decisions to be made that
will monitor throughout the off season. So stick with us.
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Speaker 14 (26:49):
I mean, I'm sorry for what I've came out and
did this season, but I mean it doesn't I mean
doesn't stop. Now. He's got to keep going keep pushing.
I mean, like someone I always trying to come in
and take your spot. So just come in, keep pushing it,
and keep putting your best before it each and every day.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Brian Thomas Jr. For sure the bright spot from this season.
Disappointment elsewhere, but he's been amazing. We do want to
talk quickly about this coaching search. We will be away
for about a month, so what's a realistic timeline you
guys think early February we might know who this might be.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Could be anywhere from January twentieth ish. Yeah, I'd be
early to post super Bowl, so you gotta keep.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
The door upen.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I would think the week of the super Bowl might
be a good opportunity for them to make that sort.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Of an announcement.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
We'll be back the week after the super Bowl talking
about it and whoever the new head coaches. So enjoy
the off season.
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