March 25, 2025 • 29 mins
Brian Sexton, John Oehser and J.P. Shadrick are in the studio to discuss league rules that are being discussed in Palm Beach next week, Top 30 visits and overall share the latest Jaguars news from the past week. The 2025 NFL Draft is just one short month away and the guys share their thoughts and who they want in the first round. All this and more on Jags AM!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And welcome in it is Jags am JP Sadrick in
for Kay Stevens.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We've got a busy.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Show ahead on a relatively non busy week.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Is that a word?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
A lot to get to though, Let's get right to
it and start into the big things today, starting with
thirty days to the NFL Draft. Brian Sexson, I know
you're fired up to go to Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Can't wait to get to Green Bay. Actually, I am
excited to see what they do up there. They've done
such a great job with a history of the Packers
and the league. I expect it to be as good
as any city that toasted the draft since they moved
it out of New York in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
But what I'm really feeling about.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
This right now is, and John, you go back to
the early days of this franchise, when the Jaguars got started,
they were able to really be big players in free
agency was one of them the hallmarks of the way
that they built the team because the league gave them
a completely clean cap, and so the Jaguars, is they
were filling their roster with draft picks, were also equally
sprinkling in free agents, and through their history that's something
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they've done. But you get the feeling that maybe the
next thirty days are going to prove that that's changing
in Jacksonville and that the draft is really going to
be the heart and soul of this football program, like
they've talked about, because the way that they approached free
agency last month was about filling specific gaps and lower
name players and lower contracts as opposed to the big,
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rich contracts that they had done for so many years.
And I think we're seeing a seed change in the
way that this franchise is going to approach building the roster.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, I don't know that we'll know that for sure,
but I know they're going to emphasize the draft. I
mean it's I think most teams want to veer from
free agency. What they do over the next thirty days
until the draft will determine maybe in a year or two,
what they don't have to do in free agency.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
They need to hit.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
As somebody wrote to me this week, it's nice to
say draft and develop, but you got a draft well
to develop. So I think the next thirty days definitely
set the tone for this franchise moving forward.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Now our next big thing. Today, you see the theme
on the stream.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Thirty well thirty million, almost thirty million dollars in cap
space remaining for the Jaguars, even after the free agency
spend that they did was about ten players coming in
a free agency, none of those their own unrestricted free agency,
the only team in the league to not sign their
own unrestricted free agents, John, and so they had a
little money to work with. Still, they got to save
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some for that draft class as well.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I think they've got the money, but I don't think
they want to necessarily spend it, certainly not till after
the draft. They're gonna draft, and as James Gladstone said,
they hope to have spots available for young guys to play.
I think there's a few needs on this rosterbably a
few more than the top three or four positions can fill.
(03:04):
So would I be shocked if there was a pass
rusher after free agency, some sort of low level veteran.
But I hope that thirty million, except for the rookies,
stays relatively the same, Right.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, I think it will. John, You're right on on
that one.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
When you look at that though, JP, the thing that
that really is is an indicator of the health of
the franchise. You've got your quarterback, your top pass rusher,
and your top cornerback all under contract for next year.
A new group has come in and they've reworked through
the roster the way that they want it and brought
in and they spent now on those nine players. They
spent some money and they're still in a position of strength.
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When you look at the health of a football team,
the salary cap is one of the most important ways,
like the heartbeat of the team. They've got the ability
to do what they want with the roster right now
with key players under contract. I just think it portends
well as they head into this draft to be in
such a strong position from the salary cap and they've
got some.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Dead cap money against them still with all the players
they didn't bring back in the years.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Fifty eight million, which is a huge number, but four
in the league.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, And it goes to show though that they are
taking a big bite out of that to be able
to go forward the way they want. And they still
have plenty of money if they want to maneuver and
add a player here or there.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Our final big thing today thirty visits Well, you can
bring thirty prospects in during this period coming up. It
is Pro day season right now. The visits will begin
very soon, Brian, and you'll get a better idea that
reports will probably come out.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I'm sure of who's coming who's not.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And this is when you get to spend a whole
lot more time than you do with the combine.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
With these guys.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, and looking at the thirty days and the thirty visits,
they're really interconnected, John, because you're talking about getting guys
in who you are very interested in, and you want
to spend time with them, and you want them in
your building so that your equipment team can get a
little feel for who they are, and not just the
medical team, but anybody else that might be involved and
just offer an opinion. They're seeking to collect as much
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information as they can. And all the way back to
nineteen ninety seven when Tony Gazales, the great tight end
it's a Hall of Famer, came in, but he also
came in with a guy named Seth Payne. And everybody
knew Tony Gazales, but they said, who's this guy, a
defensive tackle from Cornell?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Why they're bringing him there.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
This was in the early iteration of these player visits
and Seth Payne was a fourth round pick.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It was a key player for them for five seasons.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So you know you're going to find those guys through
this process that you really like, and these visits are
more about getting them in than the top prospects.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, I'll actually be curious to see how this goes
for the Jags. The Rams don't do much thirty visit
and I'm not sure how much you know this is
the north star of the Rams, right, Yeah, So I'll
be curious over the next month to see how much
the Jaguars take advantage of this. Some teams are going
away from this a little bit, but when teams do this,
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it certainly is a chance, as Brian said, to get
to know the prospect.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
We'll see and teams can do it different way. So
we've seen Jag Wars regimes earlier.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Bring in, you know, fifteen guys on one day and
rotate them through all day long, or split them up,
and we'll see what the Jags have in mind this
go around.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We've got plenty ahead. We'll come back in a moment.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And take a look at the AFC South and talk
about other teams behind their back.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
In our Division.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
What we love to do on jags Am. Welcome back
to jags Am.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Move the freight. Moved the freight, not everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
At one time Magellan Transport put in the coolest office
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of these days, you got some juice this morning, I
get you guys to do that with me, all right,
Today's not that day.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Yeah, I'm not sure as that too early.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
John, Today, I don't know we were supposed to jump in.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I mean a little clue, move the freight.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Thank you, you got it. John, will get to you
another time. Let's take a look at the AFC South.
You know, we talked about the Jags. Clearly we were
a Jaguars heavy centric know, but this team competes in
the AFC South and it is a division that is
you know, there's a lot of change could be on
the horizon for some of these teams.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Let's start off with the division champs.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Last year, the Houston Texans, who limped towards the end
of the season got.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Into the playoffs. Of course, is the division champs.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
They've got Stroud, They've got changes up front on that
line this offseason. Brian and you know, and then they've
got a pass rush on defense, they've got pieces they
write parts.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
How consistent can they be well?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And they've got the quarterback too, right. I mean, everybody
agrees that CJ. Stroud is a talented guy, but he
was sacked way too often under pressure, way too often
last year, and so they traded Laramy Tunseell, which raised
eyebows in the league. He went to Washington, Laramy Tunsall asked,
Josh Allen, you know, it is one of those guys
that you really had to have two chin straps for.
You had to be ready for this guy. And they
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traded him away and they brought in Cam Robinson. They
were making a lot of different moves up front on
their offensive line, and they feel like they have to
and where they're acting at the bottom of the first round.
There are plenty of good prospects on the interior of
the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That's the story for them.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, they've got to they've got to replace steph On
Diggs and there's some other things they want to do.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
But CJ.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Stroud is the engine. We've talked about Trevor Lawrence here
being the engine for this team. And they felt like
their offensive line was a big problem. When you Trey
Laramie Tunsult, you're pretty much admitting that that's it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, it's it's a big year for them, because really,
I think one of the disappointing things for the Jags
last year was the Texans were not a dominant team.
This was not a dominant division, and they really didn't
take a step forward. They made the playoffs, probably mostly
because the rest of the division sort of just went
away and C. J. Stroud was not great. He did
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not take the second year jump that people expected. They
clearly believe it's the offensive line. It's a big year
for that franchise and for Stroud because you know, if
he has another year like last year, then all of
a sudden, it's middling.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I think he's really good, but there's.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Some proving to do, and this franchise thinks this division
is gettable and that the Texans are not beyond being reeled.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
In next year.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Let's move along to your old stomping grounds, Indianapolis, John
where the Colts have quarterback questions. Surprise, surprise, there were
eight to nine last year. Anthony Richardson injured throughout the
season so many different ways and times. Well, now there's
going to be a competition, they say out of Indy
with Daniel Jones coming in as well at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It starts and ends there for the Colts, John.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Well, it's exactly what.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
A young quarterback who's been through with Daniel Jones has
been through needs. I believe there's a trend in the NFL,
and there's going to be a trend of quarterbacks failing
with one franchise or failing at, you know, not being
what that franchise thought.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
There's a lot of information to support you. A lot
of those guys.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah, and Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones is certainly a guy
who can do that.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I don't want to pile on Anthony Richardson, but it
was such a sealable thing that he might struggle from
the very start when they drafted him, it was all
un potential.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
There had not been a whole lot of collegiate success.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They feel like a franchise in fux, but they've also
been a franchised sense of luck retired really that if
they get that position right, you always feel like they're
two or three wins better. Have they got that position right,
They're probably the division champions and Super Bowl contenders lately.
So it's a big year for the direction of that franchise.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Listen, they've had some success when they've had Matt Ryan, right,
it was limited. Same thing with Joe Flackel. Well, those
were older guys way up in years. Here, you've got
a young, talented quarterback and things didn't work for him
in New York. But I still remember the game here
in twenty twenty three where he kept the Jaguars off balance,
running for more than one hundred yards and connecting just enough,
you know, through the passing game to keep everybody off balance.
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So I think Daniel Jones can be that Sam Darnold,
Baker Mayfield and listen, that roster. They need a couple
of things up front. They've gotten old on both sides
of the line, but they've got enough talent. When you've
got a running back like Jonathan Taylor. If Daniel Jones
steps in and is somewhere between Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold,
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you do have a contender at the top of the division.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah, there may be no other franchise that defines how
a franchise can turn on a couple of games and
a couple of good fortunes. They circumstances led them to
get Peyton Manning, Andrew and Andrew Luck back to back
in the right years to get franchise guys. And I
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remember being in Indian people around there saying, Hey, don't
lose sight of how rare this is. Meaning when I
was covering Peyton and you know, the franchise since Luck retired.
It's almost like the football guys are saying, you only
get that.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
You know, you can't have that always.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
But more than the football guides joke, it just shows
the importance of the position quickly.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, the Packers had farv and drafted Rogers and kept
him for a couple of years and then got Love.
So they're the only other franchise I can think of
that's in that run. And obviously the Colts fell on
hard times when Luck decided I don't want to play anymore,
which you can't really do much about it.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, they could have drafted better on the offensive line. Yeah,
they kept him upright, that might have kept him in
the game a little bit longer. Also, I mean, for
Anthony Richardson to compete, you've got to be healthy and
on the field to do that. He wasn't able to
do that really a lot of times at Florida as well,
was really neighboring his career college or pro Let's move
down to Nashville Music City and Tennessee Titans have the
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number one pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft
because they were three and fourteen a year ago. Jaguars
swept them quarterback questions. Of course, you can go around
any of these teams. Really at three and fourteen this record,
the top five in the or so are going to
have quarterback questions Will Levis or cam Ward. That seems
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to be the general consensus of mock drafts for the
Tennessee Titans, including after his pro day yesterday when they
sent the entire front office down to Miami Bryan.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Well and all the reports were is that he was impressive,
just like he was in his year at Miami, and
he is a guy who's got a lot of tools.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Now, if you took the.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Last couple of years of quarterbacks, he wouldn't have stacked
at the very top of that. But this happens to
be that year, and they happen to be a team
in need. They hire an offensive minded head coach and
they've got to give him a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
This just seems to be a no brainer.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Yeah, it would be shocking, except that you see enough
analysts and enough people mocking enough people around it who
are acting like it's not a slam dunk.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yet for the quarterback. So well, is that because of
the quarterback? Or you think they try to trade out.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Of that spot.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Well, I mean if they believe in cam Ward, which
I don't know if they do or not, but they
believe in cam Ord, they won't trade out of it.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
But it's not a done deal.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
And it does feel like, maybe more so than in
a lot of recent seasons, if cam Ward gets taken
number one, it will be very much a pushing up
the draft board because a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
That doesn't mean it can't work.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
But everything you hear is that neither of these quarterbacks,
Ward or Sanders would be in the top ten if
it was regardless of position. I can't see the Titans
not doing this because, much like you've seen with this franchise,
sometimes you get in position as a franchise with a
coach and a GM and the talent base, you can't
keep waiting on the quarterback because that's the you know
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that's the go button, right, So I'd be surprised they
don't take a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You know, it also sets up for them to take
a dual carter, right. I mean, Harold Landry has gone,
he's now in New England, and you've got a guy
in a dual carter that looks like an elite pass
rusher who probably doesn't go any lower than two.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
So you could see the Titans.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
They're stuck there and they don't love the quarterback saying listen,
we need an elite pass rusher who does it, We'll
take him.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know what the Texans did a few years ago,
trade it up and got both. Yeah, they got both
their guys in the top three picks.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, worked pretty good.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Also a possibility, you never know. They've got to rebuilt
offensive line. They've done some work in free agency in Nashville,
as you said, some changes coming on defense. There's our
look around the AFC South. We're back in a moment.
We're back to draft talk. Who do you want wearing teal?
Next fall? We'll get our answers at least when we
come back on jags Am.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
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Speaker 2 (16:10):
Today NFL Draft.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
As we mentioned earlier about thirty days away in Green
Bay from the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, Jags have
the number five pick. So the question today is who
do you want wearing teal next ball. I'll answer the
question first, since before the camera's on me already.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I like star power, I like competitiveness. I like guys
with their hands on the football on both sides of
the ball. Give me Travis Hunter of Colorado, the cornerback,
wide receiver, which side would he play primarily on?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Here?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's a great question we can talk about that. Jags
do need some cornerback help. Jaggs could use another star receiver.
He could do both. I like the fact that he's
the only guy that we've seen in a generation in
college football that's even attempted something like this.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Attens Cordy Lockball.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
He is at the top of his game. Obviously the
Heisman Trophy winner wants to do it. Still, we'll see
whatever team gets him allows him to do it.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
But which side would you put him on?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I would put him at corner and give him some
packages at wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's what I would do.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He's not going to be happy with that, but you
know what, Hey, you're a rookie, Go play, prove yourself
and then maybe there's more of the problem with it
is that if he gets hurt, you lose two positions. Yeah,
and that's where it becomes really trick.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Listen, it seems like it could go either way.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That people are talking about him as playing either one
at a very high level and dabbling in the other.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Think if he's there, I think there's a very high
percentage chance that the Jaguars take him.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
I don't think that he will be there.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So Okay, because of what you were talking about it
was per absolute star power. People watched Colorado when they
weren't very good the last two years because of this kid.
And every time I turned a game on it involved Colorado,
I was looking for twelve. And the thing was, no
matter what side of the ball was out there, you
want a chance to watch him.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
You could watch this guy for sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You don't have to look far.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
The Great Players Draft.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
According to Allanos, it's Abduel Carter from Penn State and
it's it's Hunter. So if either of those guys are
available at five, I don't think they get.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Too six fair enough Johnny, Oh, what do you think?
Who do you want to see? Intel?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Well, who I'd most like to see is who I
just mentioned, Abdul Carter, But I think there's such a
limited chance of him being there that I didn't go
that direction. So I went Mason Graham, and he's sorted
the chalk pick, the defensive tackle from Michigan. I understand
that you love shiny objects, JP, so you love the playmaker,
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and there's nothing wrong with the Travis Hunter. But I
think for this franchise right now, I feel like Mason Graham,
from what you see is a very very very low
risk player who can give you something that you need,
which is stockiness, stoutness, all that stuff on the interior.
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I'll go with the defensive tackle who can be disruptive,
which they haven't had in.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
A long time.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Well, what this team really needs.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Is a guy who pushed the pocket from the inside.
They hope that Mason Smith develops into that or Jordan Jefferson.
That's why they were picked last year where they were.
But if you don't have.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Somebody pushing the pocket from the inside, JP.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
You know this, I mean, it's just so much harder
for Josh and for Trayvon to be able to get
to the quarterback. Quarterback can step up into the pocket.
So I mean, this is a very logical, sensible pick.
If he's there, and buy all accounts, he should be
there ten youre guy, I.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Argue with this pick.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
If it was made, I mean, this would be a
significant piece for this defense.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
But this was sort of a wishless sort of fun exercise,
and so I'm going I try to channel the Los
Angeles Rams, right, I try.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
To what would they everybody in the building they do.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
That, and they would they'd look for a touchdown maker.
So I went with Tyler Warren, the tight end from
Penn State, who most people think is going to be
picked in the top nine picks, probably doesn't get much
lower than New Orleans. The reason why is he reminds
me physically of Rob Gronkowski and stylistically like Travis Kelce,
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and if you can find a player that can give
you all of that, he was so much fun to watch.
Talking about fun, right, I mean not two sides of
the ball like Travis Hunter, but a guy that they
lined up all across the formation at running back, at quarterback.
I just think for an offensive vine like Liam Cohen
and the staff that they have down there, if you
take a mismatch the size and quality of Tyler Warren
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and you put him on the field and let them maneuver,
the quarterback will have a much much better time of
executing what they want to an offense. It's a reach pick,
but I take it because he looks like he's going
to be a great player.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You know, I did a couple of Penn State games
last year, and I didn't do the Southern colgame where
he literally lined up everywhere. He snapped the ball at
one point and went out for a route how they
lined up, but he's doing the direct snap. But then
he's lined up in the slot and he's outside, he's
full back. He does He did everything for Penn State,
and then in the key moment against Ohio State, down
at the goal line, they don't give him the football
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and they were turned away on fourth down. They corrected
that the next week, two direct snaps to him, two
touchdowns for Penn State at the goal line. He has
that ability to just kind of be John a gamer,
a guy that you can throw out there. You know
he's gonna be able to handle whatever you throw at
him well.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
And the pick would make sense because they do use
tight ends in that way, they could find a spot
to use both Brenton.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Strange and Tyler Warren.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
It would make a lot of sense for an offense
that frankly, I believe you need four guys who can
beat and make defenses nervous in the passing game. Right now,
they believe they have Brenton Strange, Brian Thomas Junior, and
John may Brown. This would give you that one more,
maybe not at the receiver position, but it would give
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you at the tight end. And you know NFL has
shown us in the last ten years. When you get
a double tight end situation, if it's the right combination,
it can work in the same capacity as having three wives.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I don't think they take him at five, but who knows.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
If somebody doesn't want to come up and grab someone
and you can't go back to seven or eight, who knows.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
What if Hunter and Graham are gone.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Well, listen, you know who I like, but I don't
know what they think. I just if you watch Penn
State and if you're looking for highlights to back this up,
go watch, go, go, go to YouTube and find Tyler
Warren highlights. You'll enjoy watching him play.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Watched the Southern col game last year.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That was the one out at the Coliseum that just
opened everybody's eyes. I mean he touched the ball so
many times. We've got plenty ahead, Actually not plenty. This
is we're come back in a moment, We're gonna wrap
this thing up.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
We're calling it at that I might have not enough ahead.
John is done after this commercial break.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
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Speaker 2 (23:08):
Thank you for sex. That's Brian Sexton.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
By the way, John Oser salty vets here on the
set today, Final moments here. The NFL annual meeting coming
up next week in Palm.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Beach, John, You'll be down there for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And one of the big topics each owners meeting is
proposals for rule changes, and there are some high level
ones that will kind of touch on today. There's some
kind of down in the weeds football business things we'll.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Leave off today.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
But the number one that's I think gonna be Oh,
there's a few controversies. Playoff seating was mentioned by one
of the teams as they wanted to change it where
a wild card team can be seated higher than a
division champion.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And I can't even believe I'm reading this.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I mean, what's the point of divisions if you're gonna
let the wild card team be seated higher.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I don't like it.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
It seems like this gets brought up every five to
seven years, and the instinct from fans as always, yeah,
you know, if a team goes thirteen and four, they
usually have a home game over at ten and seventeen.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
But I you guys have been around this long time.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
As I have NFL owners and league people, they value
those division titles and they consider them very important.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
There's rivalries among owners.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
There's owners who have been in a long time who
believe the division matters, and I don't think the league
wants to. If you take that away, then why not
just have conferences like back in the strike year where
they just went one through eight and like reseated everybody.
So I understand the feeling of inequity when you see
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it and it's that big of a gap. But part
of the issue too is when you get like a
nine and eight team and a ten and seventeen and
there's not that much of a gap, owner's argument becomes, well,
why should this team be punished for playing in what
perhaps is a tougher division?
Speaker 6 (25:07):
And they won it, and you know, so there's both sides.
I'd be stunned if it's changed.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Well, first of all, I was surprised that it was
the Lions that brought it up because they had the
number one overall seed.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Last year.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You were in that situation, lost in Minnesota, so it
probably got minds thinking, and well mine start thinking dangerous stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
This came to light to my memory the first time
in twenty ten, when you had a Seahawks team that
made the playoffs with a losing record and they hosted
the Saints. If you recall that game, that was the
Marshawn Lynch Beast play down game to bes Quick. Absolutely,
and so ever since then they've looked at it. I
am interested in the removal of the automatic first down
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on a five yard defensive holding right, because there are
so many times where you've got a guy on third
down and ten and he just holds just slightly and
it becomes a first down.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Yeah. I can't believe that rule would get changed.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I don't hold no, I'm with you, but it seems
like there's some momentum.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
What's the alternative? I don't know. Five yeard penalty third
and five.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
That smells that's what they want. That if they change it,
it'll be for one year. In a year, they'll go, oh, no,
that's not you know.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I think it sounds some of these rules, and it's
why the competition is why the competition committee is usually
full of experienced people who've been through it, because some
of these rules sound great on the surface, sort of
like the past interference rule, A couple of years back,
and then once you see it in play, you realize
why the NFL it is slow to change because they
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don't want fiascos and to me, the holding that turns
into a lot of just hold it intentional grab. Yeah,
I don't think that's what the league wants to see.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
In what is an offensive centric mindset.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Overtime rules could be on the table this week.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You know the playoff rule now is that both teams
get a possession in overtime that goes fifteen minutes. Well,
the proposal is to make that the same rule in
the regular season.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yes, that goes back, Brian, sorry interrupted you.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
The competition committee will always try to air towards shorter
because of injury risks, and because of there's a belief
that fatigued players laid in games and the more plays
you play are more.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Setible an injury.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
That's why they cut out back when he said the
fifteen minute over time. They're going to try to air
towards shorter because that's what players want. But at the
same time that might be one that changes. The tush
push rules also up this year.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You've got to feel at some point, since nobody else
has been able to do it like the Eagles have
that they'll finally outlaw this, and I think maybe it's
got a little traction to at least have a more
hearty discussion, because Jason Kelsey talked at length during the
Super Bowl week about how painful that process is for
a center, what dangerous it is for the interior offensive
and defensive line.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I mean, saw what happened to Chris Jones with the
Chiefs when he lined up sideways and got in the neck,
and then all of a sudden in the Super Bowl
he's trying to figure out his neck the rest of
the game.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
If they can convince people that it's dangerous, then it
might get changed. I kind of think it's not going
to get changed for the simple reason that the Eagles
are the only team it's been consistously successful with it,
because then if you change that rule, the Eagles are going, well,
you know, just because we're good at something, you're changing it.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
So that's sort of the conflict. I wish they'd change it.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I don't love the play, but I do wonder if
in a meeting, if Jeffrey Lourie is not going to
stand up and say, well, what happens if you come
up with a play that I don't like, So there
may be an element of that.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, and some of the wording of these could be
a little bit of a catch to one of it
says part of it says, you know immediately after the snap, well,
how long is immediately then you're getting into how long
can before you can push somebody. We'll see what they
come up with next week. Hey, this has been a show. Yeah,
thanks guys.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
You've definitely sure you jumping in.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Good morning, John, glad you made it.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
How about that's John Oser, That's Brian Sexton.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm J. P. Shadwick.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Thanks to our entire crew and thanks to you for
watching jags Am
And welcome in it is Jags am JP Sadrick in
for Kay Stevens.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We've got a busy.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Show ahead on a relatively non busy week.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Is that a word?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
A lot to get to though, Let's get right to
it and start into the big things today, starting with
thirty days to the NFL Draft. Brian Sexson, I know
you're fired up to go to Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Can't wait to get to Green Bay. Actually, I am
excited to see what they do up there. They've done
such a great job with a history of the Packers
and the league. I expect it to be as good
as any city that toasted the draft since they moved
it out of New York in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
But what I'm really feeling about.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
This right now is, and John, you go back to
the early days of this franchise, when the Jaguars got started,
they were able to really be big players in free
agency was one of them the hallmarks of the way
that they built the team because the league gave them
a completely clean cap, and so the Jaguars, is they
were filling their roster with draft picks, were also equally
sprinkling in free agents, and through their history that's something
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they've done. But you get the feeling that maybe the
next thirty days are going to prove that that's changing
in Jacksonville and that the draft is really going to
be the heart and soul of this football program, like
they've talked about, because the way that they approached free
agency last month was about filling specific gaps and lower
name players and lower contracts as opposed to the big,
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rich contracts that they had done for so many years.
And I think we're seeing a seed change in the
way that this franchise is going to approach building the roster.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, I don't know that we'll know that for sure,
but I know they're going to emphasize the draft. I
mean it's I think most teams want to veer from
free agency. What they do over the next thirty days
until the draft will determine maybe in a year or two,
what they don't have to do in free agency.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
They need to hit.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
As somebody wrote to me this week, it's nice to
say draft and develop, but you got a draft well
to develop. So I think the next thirty days definitely
set the tone for this franchise moving forward.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Now our next big thing. Today, you see the theme
on the stream.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Thirty well thirty million, almost thirty million dollars in cap
space remaining for the Jaguars, even after the free agency
spend that they did was about ten players coming in
a free agency, none of those their own unrestricted free agency,
the only team in the league to not sign their
own unrestricted free agents, John, and so they had a
little money to work with. Still, they got to save
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some for that draft class as well.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I think they've got the money, but I don't think
they want to necessarily spend it, certainly not till after
the draft. They're gonna draft, and as James Gladstone said,
they hope to have spots available for young guys to play.
I think there's a few needs on this rosterbably a
few more than the top three or four positions can fill.
(03:04):
So would I be shocked if there was a pass
rusher after free agency, some sort of low level veteran.
But I hope that thirty million, except for the rookies,
stays relatively the same, Right.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, I think it will. John, You're right on on
that one.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
When you look at that though, JP, the thing that
that really is is an indicator of the health of
the franchise. You've got your quarterback, your top pass rusher,
and your top cornerback all under contract for next year.
A new group has come in and they've reworked through
the roster the way that they want it and brought
in and they spent now on those nine players. They
spent some money and they're still in a position of strength.
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When you look at the health of a football team,
the salary cap is one of the most important ways,
like the heartbeat of the team. They've got the ability
to do what they want with the roster right now
with key players under contract. I just think it portends
well as they head into this draft to be in
such a strong position from the salary cap and they've
got some.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Dead cap money against them still with all the players
they didn't bring back in the years.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Fifty eight million, which is a huge number, but four
in the league.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, And it goes to show though that they are
taking a big bite out of that to be able
to go forward the way they want. And they still
have plenty of money if they want to maneuver and
add a player here or there.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Our final big thing today thirty visits Well, you can
bring thirty prospects in during this period coming up. It
is Pro day season right now. The visits will begin
very soon, Brian, and you'll get a better idea that
reports will probably come out.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I'm sure of who's coming who's not.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And this is when you get to spend a whole
lot more time than you do with the combine.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
With these guys.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, and looking at the thirty days and the thirty visits,
they're really interconnected, John, because you're talking about getting guys
in who you are very interested in, and you want
to spend time with them, and you want them in
your building so that your equipment team can get a
little feel for who they are, and not just the
medical team, but anybody else that might be involved and
just offer an opinion. They're seeking to collect as much
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information as they can. And all the way back to
nineteen ninety seven when Tony Gazales, the great tight end
it's a Hall of Famer, came in, but he also
came in with a guy named Seth Payne. And everybody
knew Tony Gazales, but they said, who's this guy, a
defensive tackle from Cornell?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Why they're bringing him there.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
This was in the early iteration of these player visits
and Seth Payne was a fourth round pick.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It was a key player for them for five seasons.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So you know you're going to find those guys through
this process that you really like, and these visits are
more about getting them in than the top prospects.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, I'll actually be curious to see how this goes
for the Jags. The Rams don't do much thirty visit
and I'm not sure how much you know this is
the north star of the Rams, right, Yeah, So I'll
be curious over the next month to see how much
the Jaguars take advantage of this. Some teams are going
away from this a little bit, but when teams do this,
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it certainly is a chance, as Brian said, to get
to know the prospect.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
We'll see and teams can do it different way. So
we've seen Jag Wars regimes earlier.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Bring in, you know, fifteen guys on one day and
rotate them through all day long, or split them up,
and we'll see what the Jags have in mind this
go around.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We've got plenty ahead. We'll come back in a moment.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And take a look at the AFC South and talk
about other teams behind their back.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
In our Division.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
What we love to do on jags Am. Welcome back
to jags Am.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Move the freight. Moved the freight, not everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
At one time Magellan Transport put in the coolest office
space in Jacksonville. Apply online at Magellanlogistics dot com. One
of these days, you got some juice this morning, I
get you guys to do that with me, all right,
Today's not that day.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Yeah, I'm not sure as that too early.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
John, Today, I don't know we were supposed to jump in.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I mean a little clue, move the freight.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Thank you, you got it. John, will get to you
another time. Let's take a look at the AFC South.
You know, we talked about the Jags. Clearly we were
a Jaguars heavy centric know, but this team competes in
the AFC South and it is a division that is
you know, there's a lot of change could be on
the horizon for some of these teams.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Let's start off with the division champs.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Last year, the Houston Texans, who limped towards the end
of the season got.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Into the playoffs. Of course, is the division champs.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
They've got Stroud, They've got changes up front on that
line this offseason. Brian and you know, and then they've
got a pass rush on defense, they've got pieces they
write parts.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
How consistent can they be well?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And they've got the quarterback too, right. I mean, everybody
agrees that CJ. Stroud is a talented guy, but he
was sacked way too often under pressure, way too often
last year, and so they traded Laramy Tunseell, which raised
eyebows in the league. He went to Washington, Laramy Tunsall asked,
Josh Allen, you know, it is one of those guys
that you really had to have two chin straps for.
You had to be ready for this guy. And they
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traded him away and they brought in Cam Robinson. They
were making a lot of different moves up front on
their offensive line, and they feel like they have to
and where they're acting at the bottom of the first round.
There are plenty of good prospects on the interior of
the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That's the story for them.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, they've got to they've got to replace steph On
Diggs and there's some other things they want to do.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
But CJ.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Stroud is the engine. We've talked about Trevor Lawrence here
being the engine for this team. And they felt like
their offensive line was a big problem. When you Trey
Laramie Tunsult, you're pretty much admitting that that's it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, it's it's a big year for them, because really,
I think one of the disappointing things for the Jags
last year was the Texans were not a dominant team.
This was not a dominant division, and they really didn't
take a step forward. They made the playoffs, probably mostly
because the rest of the division sort of just went
away and C. J. Stroud was not great. He did
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not take the second year jump that people expected. They
clearly believe it's the offensive line. It's a big year
for that franchise and for Stroud because you know, if
he has another year like last year, then all of
a sudden, it's middling.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I think he's really good, but there's.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Some proving to do, and this franchise thinks this division
is gettable and that the Texans are not beyond being reeled.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
In next year.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Let's move along to your old stomping grounds, Indianapolis, John
where the Colts have quarterback questions. Surprise, surprise, there were
eight to nine last year. Anthony Richardson injured throughout the
season so many different ways and times. Well, now there's
going to be a competition, they say out of Indy
with Daniel Jones coming in as well at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It starts and ends there for the Colts, John.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Well, it's exactly what.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
A young quarterback who's been through with Daniel Jones has
been through needs. I believe there's a trend in the NFL,
and there's going to be a trend of quarterbacks failing
with one franchise or failing at, you know, not being
what that franchise thought.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
There's a lot of information to support you. A lot
of those guys.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah, and Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones is certainly a guy
who can do that.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I don't want to pile on Anthony Richardson, but it
was such a sealable thing that he might struggle from
the very start when they drafted him, it was all
un potential.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
There had not been a whole lot of collegiate success.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
They feel like a franchise in fux, but they've also
been a franchised sense of luck retired really that if
they get that position right, you always feel like they're
two or three wins better. Have they got that position right,
They're probably the division champions and Super Bowl contenders lately.
So it's a big year for the direction of that franchise.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Listen, they've had some success when they've had Matt Ryan, right,
it was limited. Same thing with Joe Flackel. Well, those
were older guys way up in years. Here, you've got
a young, talented quarterback and things didn't work for him
in New York. But I still remember the game here
in twenty twenty three where he kept the Jaguars off balance,
running for more than one hundred yards and connecting just enough,
you know, through the passing game to keep everybody off balance.
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So I think Daniel Jones can be that Sam Darnold,
Baker Mayfield and listen, that roster. They need a couple
of things up front. They've gotten old on both sides
of the line, but they've got enough talent. When you've
got a running back like Jonathan Taylor. If Daniel Jones
steps in and is somewhere between Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold,
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you do have a contender at the top of the division.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah, there may be no other franchise that defines how
a franchise can turn on a couple of games and
a couple of good fortunes. They circumstances led them to
get Peyton Manning, Andrew and Andrew Luck back to back
in the right years to get franchise guys. And I
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remember being in Indian people around there saying, Hey, don't
lose sight of how rare this is. Meaning when I
was covering Peyton and you know, the franchise since Luck retired.
It's almost like the football guys are saying, you only
get that.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
You know, you can't have that always.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
But more than the football guides joke, it just shows
the importance of the position quickly.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, the Packers had farv and drafted Rogers and kept
him for a couple of years and then got Love.
So they're the only other franchise I can think of
that's in that run. And obviously the Colts fell on
hard times when Luck decided I don't want to play anymore,
which you can't really do much about it.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, they could have drafted better on the offensive line. Yeah,
they kept him upright, that might have kept him in
the game a little bit longer. Also, I mean, for
Anthony Richardson to compete, you've got to be healthy and
on the field to do that. He wasn't able to
do that really a lot of times at Florida as well,
was really neighboring his career college or pro Let's move
down to Nashville Music City and Tennessee Titans have the
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number one pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft
because they were three and fourteen a year ago. Jaguars
swept them quarterback questions. Of course, you can go around
any of these teams. Really at three and fourteen this record,
the top five in the or so are going to
have quarterback questions Will Levis or cam Ward. That seems
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to be the general consensus of mock drafts for the
Tennessee Titans, including after his pro day yesterday when they
sent the entire front office down to Miami Bryan.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Well and all the reports were is that he was impressive,
just like he was in his year at Miami, and
he is a guy who's got a lot of tools.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Now, if you took the.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Last couple of years of quarterbacks, he wouldn't have stacked
at the very top of that. But this happens to
be that year, and they happen to be a team
in need. They hire an offensive minded head coach and
they've got to give him a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
This just seems to be a no brainer.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Yeah, it would be shocking, except that you see enough
analysts and enough people mocking enough people around it who
are acting like it's not a slam dunk.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yet for the quarterback. So well, is that because of
the quarterback? Or you think they try to trade out.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Of that spot.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Well, I mean if they believe in cam Ward, which
I don't know if they do or not, but they
believe in cam Ord, they won't trade out of it.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
But it's not a done deal.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
And it does feel like, maybe more so than in
a lot of recent seasons, if cam Ward gets taken
number one, it will be very much a pushing up
the draft board because a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
That doesn't mean it can't work.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
But everything you hear is that neither of these quarterbacks,
Ward or Sanders would be in the top ten if
it was regardless of position. I can't see the Titans
not doing this because, much like you've seen with this franchise,
sometimes you get in position as a franchise with a
coach and a GM and the talent base, you can't
keep waiting on the quarterback because that's the you know
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that's the go button, right, So I'd be surprised they
don't take a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You know, it also sets up for them to take
a dual carter, right. I mean, Harold Landry has gone,
he's now in New England, and you've got a guy
in a dual carter that looks like an elite pass
rusher who probably doesn't go any lower than two.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
So you could see the Titans.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
They're stuck there and they don't love the quarterback saying listen,
we need an elite pass rusher who does it, We'll
take him.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know what the Texans did a few years ago,
trade it up and got both. Yeah, they got both
their guys in the top three picks.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, worked pretty good.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Also a possibility, you never know. They've got to rebuilt
offensive line. They've done some work in free agency in Nashville,
as you said, some changes coming on defense. There's our
look around the AFC South. We're back in a moment.
We're back to draft talk. Who do you want wearing teal?
Next fall? We'll get our answers at least when we
come back on jags Am.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
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Speaker 2 (16:10):
Today NFL Draft.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
As we mentioned earlier about thirty days away in Green
Bay from the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, Jags have
the number five pick. So the question today is who
do you want wearing teal next ball. I'll answer the
question first, since before the camera's on me already.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I like star power, I like competitiveness. I like guys
with their hands on the football on both sides of
the ball. Give me Travis Hunter of Colorado, the cornerback,
wide receiver, which side would he play primarily on?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Here?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's a great question we can talk about that. Jags
do need some cornerback help. Jaggs could use another star receiver.
He could do both. I like the fact that he's
the only guy that we've seen in a generation in
college football that's even attempted something like this.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Attens Cordy Lockball.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
He is at the top of his game. Obviously the
Heisman Trophy winner wants to do it. Still, we'll see
whatever team gets him allows him to do it.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
But which side would you put him on?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I would put him at corner and give him some
packages at wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's what I would do.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He's not going to be happy with that, but you
know what, Hey, you're a rookie, Go play, prove yourself
and then maybe there's more of the problem with it
is that if he gets hurt, you lose two positions. Yeah,
and that's where it becomes really trick.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Listen, it seems like it could go either way.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That people are talking about him as playing either one
at a very high level and dabbling in the other.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Think if he's there, I think there's a very high
percentage chance that the Jaguars take him.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
I don't think that he will be there.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So Okay, because of what you were talking about it
was per absolute star power. People watched Colorado when they
weren't very good the last two years because of this kid.
And every time I turned a game on it involved Colorado,
I was looking for twelve. And the thing was, no
matter what side of the ball was out there, you
want a chance to watch him.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
You could watch this guy for sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You don't have to look far.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
The Great Players Draft.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
According to Allanos, it's Abduel Carter from Penn State and
it's it's Hunter. So if either of those guys are
available at five, I don't think they get.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Too six fair enough Johnny, Oh, what do you think?
Who do you want to see? Intel?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Well, who I'd most like to see is who I
just mentioned, Abdul Carter, But I think there's such a
limited chance of him being there that I didn't go
that direction. So I went Mason Graham, and he's sorted
the chalk pick, the defensive tackle from Michigan. I understand
that you love shiny objects, JP, so you love the playmaker,
(18:46):
and there's nothing wrong with the Travis Hunter. But I
think for this franchise right now, I feel like Mason Graham,
from what you see is a very very very low
risk player who can give you something that you need,
which is stockiness, stoutness, all that stuff on the interior.
(19:06):
I'll go with the defensive tackle who can be disruptive,
which they haven't had in.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
A long time.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Well, what this team really needs.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Is a guy who pushed the pocket from the inside.
They hope that Mason Smith develops into that or Jordan Jefferson.
That's why they were picked last year where they were.
But if you don't have.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Somebody pushing the pocket from the inside, JP.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
You know this, I mean, it's just so much harder
for Josh and for Trayvon to be able to get
to the quarterback. Quarterback can step up into the pocket.
So I mean, this is a very logical, sensible pick.
If he's there, and buy all accounts, he should be
there ten youre guy, I.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Argue with this pick.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
If it was made, I mean, this would be a
significant piece for this defense.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
But this was sort of a wishless sort of fun exercise,
and so I'm going I try to channel the Los
Angeles Rams, right, I try.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
To what would they everybody in the building they do.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
That, and they would they'd look for a touchdown maker.
So I went with Tyler Warren, the tight end from
Penn State, who most people think is going to be
picked in the top nine picks, probably doesn't get much
lower than New Orleans. The reason why is he reminds
me physically of Rob Gronkowski and stylistically like Travis Kelce,
(20:20):
and if you can find a player that can give
you all of that, he was so much fun to watch.
Talking about fun, right, I mean not two sides of
the ball like Travis Hunter, but a guy that they
lined up all across the formation at running back, at quarterback.
I just think for an offensive vine like Liam Cohen
and the staff that they have down there, if you
take a mismatch the size and quality of Tyler Warren
(20:42):
and you put him on the field and let them maneuver,
the quarterback will have a much much better time of
executing what they want to an offense. It's a reach pick,
but I take it because he looks like he's going
to be a great player.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You know, I did a couple of Penn State games
last year, and I didn't do the Southern colgame where
he literally lined up everywhere. He snapped the ball at
one point and went out for a route how they
lined up, but he's doing the direct snap. But then
he's lined up in the slot and he's outside, he's
full back. He does He did everything for Penn State,
and then in the key moment against Ohio State, down
at the goal line, they don't give him the football
(21:18):
and they were turned away on fourth down. They corrected
that the next week, two direct snaps to him, two
touchdowns for Penn State at the goal line. He has
that ability to just kind of be John a gamer,
a guy that you can throw out there. You know
he's gonna be able to handle whatever you throw at
him well.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
And the pick would make sense because they do use
tight ends in that way, they could find a spot
to use both Brenton.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Strange and Tyler Warren.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
It would make a lot of sense for an offense
that frankly, I believe you need four guys who can
beat and make defenses nervous in the passing game. Right now,
they believe they have Brenton Strange, Brian Thomas Junior, and
John may Brown. This would give you that one more,
maybe not at the receiver position, but it would give
(22:04):
you at the tight end. And you know NFL has
shown us in the last ten years. When you get
a double tight end situation, if it's the right combination,
it can work in the same capacity as having three wives.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I don't think they take him at five, but who knows.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
If somebody doesn't want to come up and grab someone
and you can't go back to seven or eight, who knows.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
What if Hunter and Graham are gone.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Well, listen, you know who I like, but I don't
know what they think. I just if you watch Penn
State and if you're looking for highlights to back this up,
go watch, go, go, go to YouTube and find Tyler
Warren highlights. You'll enjoy watching him play.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Watched the Southern col game last year.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That was the one out at the Coliseum that just
opened everybody's eyes. I mean he touched the ball so
many times. We've got plenty ahead, Actually not plenty. This
is we're come back in a moment, We're gonna wrap
this thing up.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
We're calling it at that I might have not enough ahead.
John is done after this commercial break.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
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Speaker 2 (23:08):
Thank you for sex. That's Brian Sexton.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
By the way, John Oser salty vets here on the
set today, Final moments here. The NFL annual meeting coming
up next week in Palm.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Beach, John, You'll be down there for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And one of the big topics each owners meeting is
proposals for rule changes, and there are some high level
ones that will kind of touch on today. There's some
kind of down in the weeds football business things we'll.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Leave off today.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
But the number one that's I think gonna be Oh,
there's a few controversies. Playoff seating was mentioned by one
of the teams as they wanted to change it where
a wild card team can be seated higher than a
division champion.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And I can't even believe I'm reading this.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I mean, what's the point of divisions if you're gonna
let the wild card team be seated higher.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I don't like it.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
It seems like this gets brought up every five to
seven years, and the instinct from fans as always, yeah,
you know, if a team goes thirteen and four, they
usually have a home game over at ten and seventeen.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
But I you guys have been around this long time.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
As I have NFL owners and league people, they value
those division titles and they consider them very important.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
There's rivalries among owners.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
There's owners who have been in a long time who
believe the division matters, and I don't think the league
wants to. If you take that away, then why not
just have conferences like back in the strike year where
they just went one through eight and like reseated everybody.
So I understand the feeling of inequity when you see
(24:51):
it and it's that big of a gap. But part
of the issue too is when you get like a
nine and eight team and a ten and seventeen and
there's not that much of a gap, owner's argument becomes, well,
why should this team be punished for playing in what
perhaps is a tougher division?
Speaker 6 (25:07):
And they won it, and you know, so there's both sides.
I'd be stunned if it's changed.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Well, first of all, I was surprised that it was
the Lions that brought it up because they had the
number one overall seed.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Last year.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You were in that situation, lost in Minnesota, so it
probably got minds thinking, and well mine start thinking dangerous stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
This came to light to my memory the first time
in twenty ten, when you had a Seahawks team that
made the playoffs with a losing record and they hosted
the Saints. If you recall that game, that was the
Marshawn Lynch Beast play down game to bes Quick. Absolutely,
and so ever since then they've looked at it. I
am interested in the removal of the automatic first down
(25:47):
on a five yard defensive holding right, because there are
so many times where you've got a guy on third
down and ten and he just holds just slightly and
it becomes a first down.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Yeah. I can't believe that rule would get changed.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I don't hold no, I'm with you, but it seems
like there's some momentum.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
What's the alternative? I don't know. Five yeard penalty third
and five.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
That smells that's what they want. That if they change it,
it'll be for one year. In a year, they'll go, oh, no,
that's not you know.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I think it sounds some of these rules, and it's
why the competition is why the competition committee is usually
full of experienced people who've been through it, because some
of these rules sound great on the surface, sort of
like the past interference rule, A couple of years back,
and then once you see it in play, you realize
why the NFL it is slow to change because they
(26:38):
don't want fiascos and to me, the holding that turns
into a lot of just hold it intentional grab. Yeah,
I don't think that's what the league wants to see.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
In what is an offensive centric mindset.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Overtime rules could be on the table this week.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You know the playoff rule now is that both teams
get a possession in overtime that goes fifteen minutes. Well,
the proposal is to make that the same rule in
the regular season.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yes, that goes back, Brian, sorry interrupted you.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
The competition committee will always try to air towards shorter
because of injury risks, and because of there's a belief
that fatigued players laid in games and the more plays
you play are more.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Setible an injury.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
That's why they cut out back when he said the
fifteen minute over time. They're going to try to air
towards shorter because that's what players want. But at the
same time that might be one that changes. The tush
push rules also up this year.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You've got to feel at some point, since nobody else
has been able to do it like the Eagles have
that they'll finally outlaw this, and I think maybe it's
got a little traction to at least have a more
hearty discussion, because Jason Kelsey talked at length during the
Super Bowl week about how painful that process is for
a center, what dangerous it is for the interior offensive
and defensive line.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I mean, saw what happened to Chris Jones with the
Chiefs when he lined up sideways and got in the neck,
and then all of a sudden in the Super Bowl
he's trying to figure out his neck the rest of
the game.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
If they can convince people that it's dangerous, then it
might get changed. I kind of think it's not going
to get changed for the simple reason that the Eagles
are the only team it's been consistously successful with it,
because then if you change that rule, the Eagles are going, well,
you know, just because we're good at something, you're changing it.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
So that's sort of the conflict. I wish they'd change it.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I don't love the play, but I do wonder if
in a meeting, if Jeffrey Lourie is not going to
stand up and say, well, what happens if you come
up with a play that I don't like, So there
may be an element of that.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, and some of the wording of these could be
a little bit of a catch to one of it
says part of it says, you know immediately after the snap, well,
how long is immediately then you're getting into how long
can before you can push somebody. We'll see what they
come up with next week. Hey, this has been a show. Yeah,
thanks guys.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
You've definitely sure you jumping in.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Good morning, John, glad you made it.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
How about that's John Oser, That's Brian Sexton.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm J. P. Shadwick.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Thanks to our entire crew and thanks to you for
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