June 10, 2025 • 27 mins
Kainani Stevens, John Oehser, and Brian Sexton are live with Jags A.M. to start off mandatory minicamp. The crew takes this time to assess the running backs position group and Brian Thomas Jr. flying under the radar. Later, they dip into the Houston Texans offseason programming and how their roster is looking.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome into Jack's Am. It's June tenth, and Mandatory Mini
Camp is kicking off right now at the Miller Electric
Center three days this week that we will see the
guys out there getting ready for this offseason program or
getting into this offseason program. We saw some pretty great
turnout during OTAs, but of course just a little bit different.
This is the mandatory portion. Welcome in. I'm Kinnannie Stevens,
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Brian Sexson, John Ojer are with me today. Is we're
going to talk things out. Big thing number one is
it's mandatory Mini camp now, not a ton different, Brian
from OTAs, and we have seen pretty good turnout, but
you do have to be here and after this offseason,
you definitely want to be a part of this, and
that's why we saw such good turnout earlier as well.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, that's really the only difference is the word mandatory
and that the veterans are record wired to be here.
I think in recent years we've seen coaching stabs cancel
these or turn them off on the third day.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'll be interested to see Liam's approach.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
My guess is is that they'll practice all three days
because in this transition there has been a lot to
get done, John, and a lot that the coaches want
to see before they switch it off until training camp
at the what the third week of July.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, it's mandatory, so let the record show we're here,
so we're covered, and that's really the only difference. It's
still unpadded work eleven on eleven. It's more competitive than
it was before OTAs began. Other than that's what it is.
I don't expect them to back off this week because
I feel like they've had a plan that it's involved
thirteen on field practices to get ready. I think Thursdays
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may be a smid shorter. Beyond that, it's OTA's which
is learning, not much evaluating, and trying to get ready
for training camp.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Our second big thing today is going to be run away.
We look at different position groups this time of year
and some new face. We've seen a lot of new
faces added to this roster. Their running back room is
one that's going to look a lot different compared to
last year. John. We've seen a lot of additions and
I feel like this could be one of the most
competitive groups in terms of what we see in training
camp going into the season.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, i'd put it with you know, offensive line in
terms of the competitive level, Look, this team wants to run.
It feels like there is such an emphasis on it.
Usually teams that really really emphasize it run better than
the teams that don't. There's a will thing in the NFL.
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There's a stick to it. I think they're going to
stick to it. In talking to offensive line coach sewn
Sean Serraht last week, he doesn't doubt that it's going
to be a tough offensive line emphasis on run blocking.
So once we get there, then we will see the
running backs come into play. And I do think it's
competitive and I think base Shelle Tooton has a chance
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to start.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, they have to get better at it, and
if they do, I think it tends to an opportunity
to get right back into the thick of the AFC
South with Houston. They're an inability guy to convert on
third and short really has cost this offense. I'm really
interested in this room, and I know what you've said
about Tutin, and I know what happened last year in Tampa.
The guy that I'm interested in the most is Travis
Etn because of what he said and I know this
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is the time of year where you can say almost
anything and it all sounds so trite and wrote in
so many cases, but you have such competition in that
room now he has to be motivated by his circumstances
final a year of his deal. He's clearly as a
former first round pick, the most talented guy in the
room and the guy who has provided improved that he
can provide touchdowns and yards and big plays. Well, we've
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watched big Speed be unable to pull away from him
in recent years, and now we know what Tuton's impact
could be. John mentioned he might start this year. I
think Travis etn is X factor. Call it what you want,
but a guy who could give this team a lot
this year if things line up for him, and.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Will certainly be motivated in that contract here and maybe
a little more involvement in the passing game coming up
as well. Our final big thing camp competition. We talked
about the running back group. That's obviously going to be competitive,
But Brian, when you're looking elsewhere on the roster, what's
another position group where you feel like there's going to
be some great competition come camp?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, I think the middle of that defensive line to
listen to the defensive line staff last week talk about
Eric Armstead moving back inside and what they've seen and
heard from him since.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Those guys aren't in full pads.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But what I got there last week asking Josh heinz
Allen about Mason Smith is that he's worked hard, he's
been coachable, teachable.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And that his motivation level is very high.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
He understands what's at stake for him in his career
in year two. And then you mix into Von Hamilton
and Jordan Jefferson, there's a lot to like about the
inside of this defensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Group if they all come to play.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
John Yeah, where we see competition? Where to start? I
think it's gonna be a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I think I left tackle walk a little Fred Johnson
all over the offensive line, running back, I think safety
with Andrew Wingard and Caleb Ransaw the outside corner on
the other side. I'm not sure it's competition as much
as trying to figure out when and where Travis Hunter
will line up, how Jordan Lewis will compliment that linebackers
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all over the place.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
This is uh, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I think the guys that people have penciled in the
veteran guys most of them probably start, but it's gonna
be interesting. And I don't think all of the guys
that people are penciling and will start, So it's gonna
be a good camp.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I think it's gonna evolve as it goes along, which
will be exciting for us to see. So stay with
us here on jag Zam. We'll have more live views
of mandatory mini camps coming up after the break anyday's
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Speaker 6 (06:02):
A big part of that is Travis. He puts into work.
Like I said, he loves football. And when you got
guys like that that truly love what they do, you know,
we make we make the time to get everything that
we need accomplished done each and every day, and I
think I think that's something that you'll just continue to
get better at. We'll continue to get better at as
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far as making sure that we make the most of
every opportunity that we get. So whatever meeting it might be,
whatever time we get out on the field, also walkthrough
we just make sure we maximize the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Edgar Vennant wingh in on Travis Hunter, who works with
the wide receivers a lot more than he's been working
with the dfense so far from what we've seen, but
always good things. Whenever he's on either side.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Of the football. He's fun to watch. It's hard not to
have your eyes on him.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And what's interesting is how many eyes are on him
have not been on Brian Thomas Junior. You know, talking
to people, they're like, oh, I forgot about Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
You don't forget about him.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, I'm sure that's what coach is hoping people will
do forget about BTJ, but I don't know if they will.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Wouldn't that be fantastic next if they just single high? Yeah?
Right out?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, if it is remarkable after the rookie season that
Brian Thomas Junior had that your first round draft pick
could overwhelm, that could be a bigger story than that
in the spring.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
If you had said to me last.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Fall that that was possible or last spring, I wouldn't
thought it would be.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
But doesn't it feel Brian, And like we've covered this
a while, certain guys are quiet in the off season.
I'm to the point where I would be stunned if
he's not a fourteen hundred yard guy next year.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I think he's going to have an explosion.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And you're talking about Travis Hunter and BTJ just feels
like more of a wh I say, guaranteed, But if
he's not an all pro level guy and the best
player on the offense outside Trevor Lawrence next year, I'd
be surprised. And that's no knock on Travis Hunter. I
just think Travis is going to be the explosive, make
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a play, but consistency what makes this offense run. I
think it's gonna be number seven.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I was talking to a friend of mine who is
a scout in the NFC, and he told me he
thought that Brian Thomas Junior could be Jamar Chase, he
could be Justin Jefferson, he could be that, Oh my god,
how do we stop this guy? How do we match
up with this guy? Fourteen fifteen hundred yard guy? Whatever
he wants and he doesn't say very much.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I get the idea that BTJ might be just fine
with not having the midweek spotlight on him and not
doing the pressers and then being on NFL primetime at
night catching balls and being able to talk on the field,
So he may flourish in this because it don't me wrong.
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I think he likes, like anybody in the NFL, the
recognition of being great. But I don't necessarily think he
needs the midweek stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And I think what's cool and what I've seen in
his evolution is it now looks really easy to him.
He always looked athletic, he always looked like he was
learning and getting better as things went along. But now
it looks like it's old routine already, which is interesting
to see in a second year player because you don't
always see it picked up that quickly. And it's now
to the point where I expect him to do crazy things.
I don't. I'm not as awed by it, because that
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is who he is.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I said to somebody the other day.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Last year he was adjusting to the National Football League
to playing on Sundays.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
This year, the National Football League will adjust him.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be. I think you're gonna
see accelerated. And he was good last year, don't get
me wrong, but I think you're gonna see as good
as he was last year. Most rookies outside of the
running back position aren't close to having the field vision
or the awareness in the moment that they will in
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the future. I'm not saying Brian Thomas wasn't good in
those areas last year, but it usually accelerates.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
You learn what you didn't know as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
So it's exciting stuff. And he is when you look
at national rankings and all that stuff, which I love
that kind of steph Brian.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, I know you top three, top five.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
You see him mentioned, but there's often not. He's still
sort of a well kept secret nationally in a way,
so I think the secret will be out since So
we got.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
To talk to some of the position coaches last week,
which is exciting for us because it's new staff, so
kind of getting to know them a little bit. And
John loves to talk to an O line coach, so
Sean Sarah has.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
They always have a lot to say, and he talked
a little bit about the competition on the line and
what he's expecting out of walker little.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Over position.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
He ends up at the slidest BIS and go in
there and be, you know, a seventeen Games starter for
multiple years, and you know, and that's what we see
in him and Anton. They're both they're both capable of
going to either spot, and they're both capable of starting
seventeen games for us going into the playoffs, playing in
these big games, and it's very helpful. And we brought
guys in that have been in these situations, and a
guy like Patrick McCarry who comes in, you know, he's
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been kind of like a blue guy around is with
the Ravens, who's played all these positions and he's played
in all these big games and he's just you know,
it doesn't matter if a guy goes down, you're gonna
move him over and he's not gonna bad or not.
I can go play, which is interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
You know, let's be good for those guys.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
John, I feel like this regime is definitely doing the
offensive line differently because they're bringing in young players, yes,
but also a lot of veterans that have played multiple positions,
so that the depth will be players that can plug
and play in different spots.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He was asked last week, what like the what the
defining trade of the offensive line will be.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I think it's gonna be many.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
The one he chose to speak about was versatility because
there are so many guys who can play different spots
as an offensive line coach.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
They love that.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
He mentioned usually o line coaches are looking for the
fourth guy who can snap. You know, offensive line coaches
are always trying to figure out if they have enough
centers because at some point, if guys get hurt, you
can't start the play without a center.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
But he said they have plenty of them. He was
also interesting in.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
He has zero doubt that, even though they haven't seen
it in OTA's yet, this is going to be a
tough group.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
They can run block.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
The emphasis on that area is something every team says
they emphasize it. The previous regime really had the attitude
Brian of they were going to run when the run
was there, but they weren't going to overpower the opponent.
I think these guys may be a team that runs
even when you know it's coming. There's a difference in
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philosophy there, and I think you're going to see an
improve in the running game because of it.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I went back and watched a lot of the year
the Buccaneers games this offseason, and I love the way
they run. If that's the approach, man, it's going to
be fun to watch this group. And I think because
we've talked about it at nauseam that they will be
much more successful on third down and short offensive line coaches,
and you remember Mike Maser. I mean, these guys, they're
just a different breed. They're just the way that they
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talk and the intensity with which they speak.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I just I love listening to them.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And I think the thing that stands out the most
about this group was what they said in the early days,
and that is what you think will happen or should happen.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Probably won't.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
If I was commissioner for a day, which everybody wants,
I would have offensive line coaches in addition to the coordinators.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
We talk to the.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Media every week, because they really are the beyond those two.
If you think about it, they're usually the storyline.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I don't think most offensive line coaches would want to
do that.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
They like being in the cave.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
But I think when you can talk to them and
get a feel for their position group, it's often as
valuable as the coordinators.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
So it's project Goodell, make it.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Happen, Make it happen, Ozer says, So we got to
talk to quarterbacks coach Spencer Whipple as well. A lot
of talk about Trevor learning this new system, but a
lot of focus has actually been on Trevor's footwork and
what he's seen from him so far.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
It takes a you know, a downloading process that takes
say playing on the field, those reps that come up
in terms of practice, and so he's done a great
job of the self evaluation piece, saying right away, hey,
I did feel.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
A little bit quick here.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Maybe I could, you.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Know, sit on this a little bit more and let
bet work so whatever it may be. And I think
that just goes back to his approach in terms of
growing and getting better each day. That's his main focus
and that's what he's done and that's why it's been such.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
A a pleasure to work with him. Brian Trevor himself
is that he wanted to work on his footwork. All
the reports back at this point are that it's been
going quite well and just the improvement as things have
gone along.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I guess we'll find out. I mean, I don't think
we're going to find anything this week about it. You know,
get to whatever portion of the preseason he plays, and
to me, I won't be watching his feet. I don't
know what I'm looking at specifically, but I'll be watching
his comfort level when he hits that back foot, and
according to coach Cohen and the entire offensive staff that
deals with the passing game, his decision making and his
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ability to calmly make a play all based on his footwork.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I guess that's the only way we can judge it.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, I've got a lot of questions people saying, well,
exactly what are they doing with his footwork? I don't
think we'll ever know, because they're not going to sit
there and discuss, well, A, we want it this inch.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
But I think the thing.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
To take away that they're doing is it's as much
timing as it is footwork. From my understanding, meaning Liam
Cohene has talked about it often and Spencer Wioplo did too.
They just want the footwork to dictate the decision making
and make it feel as reflexive perhaps of this is
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where the decision is going to be. They want to
take as much thinking out of it as possible, and
Liam keeps on talking.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
About it's a gray game.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
They want as many things to be black and white,
so on the decisions that he has to make, there's
a clearer head making it. So I probably didn't explain
it well enough right there, for Well, it's not an
easy thing to explain, but that's the spirit of it,
is trying to have the footwork dictate the decisions so
that anything you can do to make it a little
easier in the pocket is going to help to me
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accuracy everything there, because you're just better when you're more comfortable.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
It's about making him comfortable.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And and the bedrock of comfort is knowing where you're
supposed to be and where when you're supposed to be there,
and the footwork is all part of that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, check in quickly. I do want to talk about
the defense.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Coach Campanelli has been one of the newer faces, very prominent.
I just feel like his personality is very strong, which
is great for the players, and they've really taken to him.
I know Josh Heinz Allen has talked about it, but
Bill Sheridan, one of the defensive assistants, talked a little
bit about his work with camp at BC and how
he's grown in those years since he was at Boston College.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
You know, even if he's at BC, you know, super
like passionate and uh and to bury the football coach
all but when I I came.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Back here, you know been here. I don't know, maybe
eight weeks.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
And you know, the nice thing is he has been around.
I was standing the defensive coaches in the National Football League,
Brian Flores, mcdangio, Jeff Halflee, and so in the time
I've been here, even like if I say, like the
first show three weeks here, I was like, oh, this
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guy has been paying attention and his football and.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
He was skywalketted John.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I remember Josh heinz Allen speaking last week. He said,
you know how much he's enjoying working with this new staff,
and these are coaches you want to lay your body
on the line for. It, believes the direct quote he used.
But that's high praise. That's not something they just say.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Well, a couple of things about camp I don't pretend
to know him very well. I talked to him a
couple of times face to face, a couple times off
the record when he first got here. But Sheridan was
interesting talking about him because you got the impression that
Sheridan knew very quickly. Some people were put on this
earth to coach. Yeah, a lot of people coach, not
people are successful at it. But this guy was meant
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to do it. And there's no doubt that Sheridan thinks
the Camp you know, is going to be an NFL
head coach and knew is going to be a great coordinator.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
The most interesting thing about Camp.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I interviewed him one of the first days he got here,
turned the recorder off and I asked him about his
scheme and this is off the record, but I don't
think he'll mind me sharing this.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
And he kind of.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Scoffed, and you know, we talked about scheme of bit
and he goes, you know, Johnny, Scheme's fine. It's how
much these guys know you believe in him. And that
resonated so much in every player you talk to about him.
That's the first thing they say, he's meant to do
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this after last year. These players clearly believe that this
guy is in their corner, this guy cares about him,
and I'd be really surprised if there's not a pretty
significant I don't know about stats, but you're gonna see
a difference in the defense.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
O hope.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So because last year it was so bad, I can't
add much on Camp other than I love what Josh
heines Allen said last week when he smiled.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And said he's a lot great. I mean, that's exactly
what I want to hear.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I can't add something about Bill Sheridan, a former Jaguars
assistant coach once coached with Bill Sheridan at Michigan, and look,
you know these older veteran guys that come in, and
there have been a number of them through the years,
Nobody pays a whole lot of attention to them. But
this coach called me when Sheridan was hired and said
that guy will make a big difference with a first
time defensive coordinator. So to see Bill Sheridan and delicted
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to him last week and to hear him talk about
Campanelli and the way that he coaches, that's good credibility.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I looked here, sorry, Yan.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Interesting thing that when I was sitting with Sheridan, even
beyond Campanelli as a play caller, he.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Kind of gushed, is the right word.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
We couldn't say enough about how the players are responding
to camp.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
In the NFL. That's everything.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
If these guys don't believe in you, you got no chance.
And these guys believe in this coordinator can't.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Fake that, that's for sure. Stay with here on Jagsam
We're gonna check in around the AFC South, see what's
going on with the Texans, move the Frey, move the freight.
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back into jags am Mandatory mini camp underway. First of
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three days here. Not a ton different from OTAs, but
you do have to be here. That's mandatory. So we're
gonna check in on some of the other teams around
the AFC South. We've already talked about the Titans and
the Colts, so now it's time checking on the Texans.
They're having mandatory mini camp this week as well, and
so far CJ. Stroud has not been throwing. We'll see
what happens in mini camp. Obviously that's maybe a little
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more ononus on him participating, but there'd be a little
dodgy about it. Tamiko Ryan said, it's just, you know,
general soreness and kind of deflected and got a little
fidgety when the media is asking about it. So I'm
curious he gets beat up a lot. He was sacked
a ton last a few ton fifty six is a
ton a literal Ton physically metaphorically, we're making it up. Anyway.
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He gets sacked all the time. I'm not surprised he
was banged up. Probably a lot of stuff goes off
in the off season. But at this point to not
be throwing is interesting to me because as we saw,
you know, Trevor had an off season surgery early. Obviously,
now he's thrown shoulder, but still and to be at
this point and not be throwing with her team I
did my spidy senses are going off well.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Obviously Kenny Richardson up in Indianapolis who has shoulder issues
after complaining of soreness, and they don't know when he's
going to be ready to play.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But here's the interesting part. They just they overhauled everything
John in Houston.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
The offensive line is they traded Laramie Tunsel, they bring
in Cam Robinson. He's not the only offensive lineman. Stefan
Diggs is now in New England. Tak Dell is not
likely to play this year, let alone be able to
practice at any point in the future. And they fired
Bobby Slowick and they brought in Nick Calli to be
the offensive coordinator from Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I mean so much is different.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You'd want to have your quarterback throwing, even on a
pitch count at this point to get the most out
of his reps before camp begins.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, and I'm a Texans fan. I'm probably not panicking
over all that because a lot of teams change stuff
at the same time. It's for Stroud not to be
throwing in many camp. Maybe there's nothing wrong, but it's
fair for people to wonder why.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Because he was good last year. But I don't think
he made the jump that they expected.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I mean, we all saw as a rookie and you
expected sort of an acceleration.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It didn't really happen, so.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I would think I obviously it's just ODDI if if
Trevor wasn't throwing, it would be the A block B
block problem of this show. So in perspective, that's certainly
something to watch for a starting quarterback, not to throw
a manikin.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And we should mention as well, cause he's got some
new targets he's throwing too. Obviously, Nico Collins probably out
for the year, but Christian Kirk, a familiar face to us,
is now in Houston, and you know he's not throwing
with a starting quarterback. Obviously, Christian Kirk's of that. He'll
be fine, but when you add some new additions to
the offense, it's we know it's big for Trevor Lawrence
to be working with his new receiver, so you'd imagine CJ.
Stroud would want to do the same. But I hope
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Christian Kirk is healthy. We'll see what he can bring
to that team down there, but it'll be interesting to
see him in a Texan's uniform.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Yeah, and I think most people will watch this show that.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Many many players come through here where you think, Okay,
they're gone.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
It's fine. Christian is a guy everybody like I.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I hope he can have personal success without texting successes.
My guess is if you really pulled Christian aside and
said where would you love to I think he would
have loved to have been here with Trevor, with this team.
I think he liked this franchise a lot. Circumstances don't
always allow you to finish your career where he want to,
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but good luck to him.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
This great kid cap figure was twenty seven million dollars.
It goes that way. Nico Collins will be CJ. Stroud's
favorite target. Because he's that big play guy. But this
guy here could easily be his favorite receiver, the guy
that he trusts, who will always be where he is
supposed to be, because Christian Kirk always was.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
But unfortunately for Christian always yes when he's on the field.
But he has not finished the last two seasons. So
I hope for his sake that dead doesn't become what
defines the end of his career, because that was also
a big reason the cap.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Had he been fully healthy, I do wonder they wouldn't
have tried to figure out something. But you don't finish
two seasons in a row deep into your career, it
becomes an issue.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
All right, stay with us. We'll tell you what's coming
up the rest of this offseason and when training camp's
going to kick off. Welcome back into Jagvam, our final
jagxam of the off season. When we come back to
you guys in a few weeks, it will be training
camp and we'll officially be the next year, so we'll
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see real football, John, how much pads hitting.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Well, we'll got four or five days at the start.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
If you're to sort of go through the acclaimation period,
the acclamation period.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I want an acclamation period, right, the last thirty one
years haven't done it for you? Well, in life, I
could have used an acclamation period. They just threw me
into the pool. We're all good and this is what happened. John.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
What's your favorite part of training camp?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
The end, because it means the real stuff is really here.
I'm saying that facetiously, but you really do training camp
to get to the games, obviously, But in this case,
the favorite part will definitely be watching the offensive line,
watching the defensive line, finding out if everything we're talking
about is real.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
There'll be an energy this year.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
There always is, but with this new regime offensive line,
there'll be an energy watching that stuff is this summer.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I like following the storylines.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You get on a guy, you're watching him, whatever position
it is, and then you get to the preseason games
and see if what you've seen on the practice field
can translate whether they really have a chance or if
they're just like one of many flashes in training camp
where they make a play but they can't sustain it.
So I like to see them on Saturday nights, right,
preseason game.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yes, we get to see it every night, every day.
I mean throughout the year and throughout that month and
kind of get to know them a little bit and
kind of see them as they evolve and as the
team evolves together as well, especially with the new coaching staff.
It should be very fun. So enjoy your summer break.
We'll enjoy our summer break, and we'll see you back
in late live. Let's start training to cont
Welcome into Jack's Am. It's June tenth, and Mandatory Mini
Camp is kicking off right now at the Miller Electric
Center three days this week that we will see the
guys out there getting ready for this offseason program or
getting into this offseason program. We saw some pretty great
turnout during OTAs, but of course just a little bit different.
This is the mandatory portion. Welcome in. I'm Kinnannie Stevens,
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Brian Sexson, John Ojer are with me today. Is we're
going to talk things out. Big thing number one is
it's mandatory Mini camp now, not a ton different, Brian
from OTAs, and we have seen pretty good turnout, but
you do have to be here and after this offseason,
you definitely want to be a part of this, and
that's why we saw such good turnout earlier as well.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, that's really the only difference is the word mandatory
and that the veterans are record wired to be here.
I think in recent years we've seen coaching stabs cancel
these or turn them off on the third day.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'll be interested to see Liam's approach.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
My guess is is that they'll practice all three days
because in this transition there has been a lot to
get done, John, and a lot that the coaches want
to see before they switch it off until training camp
at the what the third week of July.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, it's mandatory, so let the record show we're here,
so we're covered, and that's really the only difference. It's
still unpadded work eleven on eleven. It's more competitive than
it was before OTAs began. Other than that's what it is.
I don't expect them to back off this week because
I feel like they've had a plan that it's involved
thirteen on field practices to get ready. I think Thursdays
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may be a smid shorter. Beyond that, it's OTA's which
is learning, not much evaluating, and trying to get ready
for training camp.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Our second big thing today is going to be run away.
We look at different position groups this time of year
and some new face. We've seen a lot of new
faces added to this roster. Their running back room is
one that's going to look a lot different compared to
last year. John. We've seen a lot of additions and
I feel like this could be one of the most
competitive groups in terms of what we see in training
camp going into the season.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, i'd put it with you know, offensive line in
terms of the competitive level, Look, this team wants to run.
It feels like there is such an emphasis on it.
Usually teams that really really emphasize it run better than
the teams that don't. There's a will thing in the NFL.
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There's a stick to it. I think they're going to
stick to it. In talking to offensive line coach sewn
Sean Serraht last week, he doesn't doubt that it's going
to be a tough offensive line emphasis on run blocking.
So once we get there, then we will see the
running backs come into play. And I do think it's
competitive and I think base Shelle Tooton has a chance
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to start.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, they have to get better at it, and
if they do, I think it tends to an opportunity
to get right back into the thick of the AFC
South with Houston. They're an inability guy to convert on
third and short really has cost this offense. I'm really
interested in this room, and I know what you've said
about Tutin, and I know what happened last year in Tampa.
The guy that I'm interested in the most is Travis
Etn because of what he said and I know this
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is the time of year where you can say almost
anything and it all sounds so trite and wrote in
so many cases, but you have such competition in that
room now he has to be motivated by his circumstances
final a year of his deal. He's clearly as a
former first round pick, the most talented guy in the
room and the guy who has provided improved that he
can provide touchdowns and yards and big plays. Well, we've
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watched big Speed be unable to pull away from him
in recent years, and now we know what Tuton's impact
could be. John mentioned he might start this year. I
think Travis etn is X factor. Call it what you want,
but a guy who could give this team a lot
this year if things line up for him, and.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Will certainly be motivated in that contract here and maybe
a little more involvement in the passing game coming up
as well. Our final big thing camp competition. We talked
about the running back group. That's obviously going to be competitive,
But Brian, when you're looking elsewhere on the roster, what's
another position group where you feel like there's going to
be some great competition come camp?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, I think the middle of that defensive line to
listen to the defensive line staff last week talk about
Eric Armstead moving back inside and what they've seen and
heard from him since.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Those guys aren't in full pads.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But what I got there last week asking Josh heinz
Allen about Mason Smith is that he's worked hard, he's
been coachable, teachable.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And that his motivation level is very high.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
He understands what's at stake for him in his career
in year two. And then you mix into Von Hamilton
and Jordan Jefferson, there's a lot to like about the
inside of this defensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Group if they all come to play.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
John Yeah, where we see competition? Where to start? I
think it's gonna be a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I think I left tackle walk a little Fred Johnson
all over the offensive line, running back, I think safety
with Andrew Wingard and Caleb Ransaw the outside corner on
the other side. I'm not sure it's competition as much
as trying to figure out when and where Travis Hunter
will line up, how Jordan Lewis will compliment that linebackers
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all over the place.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
This is uh, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I think the guys that people have penciled in the
veteran guys most of them probably start, but it's gonna
be interesting. And I don't think all of the guys
that people are penciling and will start, So it's gonna
be a good camp.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I think it's gonna evolve as it goes along, which
will be exciting for us to see. So stay with
us here on jag Zam. We'll have more live views
of mandatory mini camps coming up after the break anyday's
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episode of jag Zam. Rocky by Fresher from Florida. It
is always in season.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
A big part of that is Travis. He puts into work.
Like I said, he loves football. And when you got
guys like that that truly love what they do, you know,
we make we make the time to get everything that
we need accomplished done each and every day, and I
think I think that's something that you'll just continue to
get better at. We'll continue to get better at as
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far as making sure that we make the most of
every opportunity that we get. So whatever meeting it might be,
whatever time we get out on the field, also walkthrough
we just make sure we maximize the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Edgar Vennant wingh in on Travis Hunter, who works with
the wide receivers a lot more than he's been working
with the dfense so far from what we've seen, but
always good things. Whenever he's on either side.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Of the football. He's fun to watch. It's hard not to
have your eyes on him.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And what's interesting is how many eyes are on him
have not been on Brian Thomas Junior. You know, talking
to people, they're like, oh, I forgot about Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
You don't forget about him.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, I'm sure that's what coach is hoping people will
do forget about BTJ, but I don't know if they will.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Wouldn't that be fantastic next if they just single high? Yeah?
Right out?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, if it is remarkable after the rookie season that
Brian Thomas Junior had that your first round draft pick
could overwhelm, that could be a bigger story than that
in the spring.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
If you had said to me last.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Fall that that was possible or last spring, I wouldn't
thought it would be.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
But doesn't it feel Brian, And like we've covered this
a while, certain guys are quiet in the off season.
I'm to the point where I would be stunned if
he's not a fourteen hundred yard guy next year.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I think he's going to have an explosion.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And you're talking about Travis Hunter and BTJ just feels
like more of a wh I say, guaranteed, But if
he's not an all pro level guy and the best
player on the offense outside Trevor Lawrence next year, I'd
be surprised. And that's no knock on Travis Hunter. I
just think Travis is going to be the explosive, make
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a play, but consistency what makes this offense run. I
think it's gonna be number seven.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I was talking to a friend of mine who is
a scout in the NFC, and he told me he
thought that Brian Thomas Junior could be Jamar Chase, he
could be Justin Jefferson, he could be that, Oh my god,
how do we stop this guy? How do we match
up with this guy? Fourteen fifteen hundred yard guy? Whatever
he wants and he doesn't say very much.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I get the idea that BTJ might be just fine
with not having the midweek spotlight on him and not
doing the pressers and then being on NFL primetime at
night catching balls and being able to talk on the field,
So he may flourish in this because it don't me wrong.
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I think he likes, like anybody in the NFL, the
recognition of being great. But I don't necessarily think he
needs the midweek stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And I think what's cool and what I've seen in
his evolution is it now looks really easy to him.
He always looked athletic, he always looked like he was
learning and getting better as things went along. But now
it looks like it's old routine already, which is interesting
to see in a second year player because you don't
always see it picked up that quickly. And it's now
to the point where I expect him to do crazy things.
I don't. I'm not as awed by it, because that
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is who he is.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I said to somebody the other day.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Last year he was adjusting to the National Football League
to playing on Sundays.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
This year, the National Football League will adjust him.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be. I think you're gonna
see accelerated. And he was good last year, don't get
me wrong, but I think you're gonna see as good
as he was last year. Most rookies outside of the
running back position aren't close to having the field vision
or the awareness in the moment that they will in
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the future. I'm not saying Brian Thomas wasn't good in
those areas last year, but it usually accelerates.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
You learn what you didn't know as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
So it's exciting stuff. And he is when you look
at national rankings and all that stuff, which I love
that kind of steph Brian.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, I know you top three, top five.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
You see him mentioned, but there's often not. He's still
sort of a well kept secret nationally in a way,
so I think the secret will be out since So
we got.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
To talk to some of the position coaches last week,
which is exciting for us because it's new staff, so
kind of getting to know them a little bit. And
John loves to talk to an O line coach, so
Sean Sarah has.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
They always have a lot to say, and he talked
a little bit about the competition on the line and
what he's expecting out of walker little.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Over position.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
He ends up at the slidest BIS and go in
there and be, you know, a seventeen Games starter for
multiple years, and you know, and that's what we see
in him and Anton. They're both they're both capable of
going to either spot, and they're both capable of starting
seventeen games for us going into the playoffs, playing in
these big games, and it's very helpful. And we brought
guys in that have been in these situations, and a
guy like Patrick McCarry who comes in, you know, he's
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been kind of like a blue guy around is with
the Ravens, who's played all these positions and he's played
in all these big games and he's just you know,
it doesn't matter if a guy goes down, you're gonna
move him over and he's not gonna bad or not.
I can go play, which is interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
You know, let's be good for those guys.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
John, I feel like this regime is definitely doing the
offensive line differently because they're bringing in young players, yes,
but also a lot of veterans that have played multiple positions,
so that the depth will be players that can plug
and play in different spots.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He was asked last week, what like the what the
defining trade of the offensive line will be.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I think it's gonna be many.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
The one he chose to speak about was versatility because
there are so many guys who can play different spots
as an offensive line coach.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
They love that.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
He mentioned usually o line coaches are looking for the
fourth guy who can snap. You know, offensive line coaches
are always trying to figure out if they have enough
centers because at some point, if guys get hurt, you
can't start the play without a center.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
But he said they have plenty of them. He was
also interesting in.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
He has zero doubt that, even though they haven't seen
it in OTA's yet, this is going to be a
tough group.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
They can run block.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
The emphasis on that area is something every team says
they emphasize it. The previous regime really had the attitude
Brian of they were going to run when the run
was there, but they weren't going to overpower the opponent.
I think these guys may be a team that runs
even when you know it's coming. There's a difference in
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philosophy there, and I think you're going to see an
improve in the running game because of it.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I went back and watched a lot of the year
the Buccaneers games this offseason, and I love the way
they run. If that's the approach, man, it's going to
be fun to watch this group. And I think because
we've talked about it at nauseam that they will be
much more successful on third down and short offensive line coaches,
and you remember Mike Maser. I mean, these guys, they're
just a different breed. They're just the way that they
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talk and the intensity with which they speak.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I just I love listening to them.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And I think the thing that stands out the most
about this group was what they said in the early days,
and that is what you think will happen or should happen.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Probably won't.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
If I was commissioner for a day, which everybody wants,
I would have offensive line coaches in addition to the coordinators.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
We talk to the.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Media every week, because they really are the beyond those two.
If you think about it, they're usually the storyline.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I don't think most offensive line coaches would want to
do that.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
They like being in the cave.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
But I think when you can talk to them and
get a feel for their position group, it's often as
valuable as the coordinators.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
So it's project Goodell, make it.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Happen, Make it happen, Ozer says, So we got to
talk to quarterbacks coach Spencer Whipple as well. A lot
of talk about Trevor learning this new system, but a
lot of focus has actually been on Trevor's footwork and
what he's seen from him so far.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
It takes a you know, a downloading process that takes
say playing on the field, those reps that come up
in terms of practice, and so he's done a great
job of the self evaluation piece, saying right away, hey,
I did feel.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
A little bit quick here.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Maybe I could, you.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Know, sit on this a little bit more and let
bet work so whatever it may be. And I think
that just goes back to his approach in terms of
growing and getting better each day. That's his main focus
and that's what he's done and that's why it's been such.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
A a pleasure to work with him. Brian Trevor himself
is that he wanted to work on his footwork. All
the reports back at this point are that it's been
going quite well and just the improvement as things have
gone along.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I guess we'll find out. I mean, I don't think
we're going to find anything this week about it. You know,
get to whatever portion of the preseason he plays, and
to me, I won't be watching his feet. I don't
know what I'm looking at specifically, but I'll be watching
his comfort level when he hits that back foot, and
according to coach Cohen and the entire offensive staff that
deals with the passing game, his decision making and his
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ability to calmly make a play all based on his footwork.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I guess that's the only way we can judge it.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, I've got a lot of questions people saying, well,
exactly what are they doing with his footwork? I don't
think we'll ever know, because they're not going to sit
there and discuss, well, A, we want it this inch.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
But I think the thing.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
To take away that they're doing is it's as much
timing as it is footwork. From my understanding, meaning Liam
Cohene has talked about it often and Spencer Wioplo did too.
They just want the footwork to dictate the decision making
and make it feel as reflexive perhaps of this is
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where the decision is going to be. They want to
take as much thinking out of it as possible, and
Liam keeps on talking.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
About it's a gray game.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
They want as many things to be black and white,
so on the decisions that he has to make, there's
a clearer head making it. So I probably didn't explain
it well enough right there, for Well, it's not an
easy thing to explain, but that's the spirit of it,
is trying to have the footwork dictate the decisions so
that anything you can do to make it a little
easier in the pocket is going to help to me
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accuracy everything there, because you're just better when you're more comfortable.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
It's about making him comfortable.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And and the bedrock of comfort is knowing where you're
supposed to be and where when you're supposed to be there,
and the footwork is all part of that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, check in quickly. I do want to talk about
the defense.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Coach Campanelli has been one of the newer faces, very prominent.
I just feel like his personality is very strong, which
is great for the players, and they've really taken to him.
I know Josh Heinz Allen has talked about it, but
Bill Sheridan, one of the defensive assistants, talked a little
bit about his work with camp at BC and how
he's grown in those years since he was at Boston College.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
You know, even if he's at BC, you know, super
like passionate and uh and to bury the football coach
all but when I I came.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Back here, you know been here. I don't know, maybe
eight weeks.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
And you know, the nice thing is he has been around.
I was standing the defensive coaches in the National Football League,
Brian Flores, mcdangio, Jeff Halflee, and so in the time
I've been here, even like if I say, like the
first show three weeks here, I was like, oh, this
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guy has been paying attention and his football and.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
He was skywalketted John.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I remember Josh heinz Allen speaking last week. He said,
you know how much he's enjoying working with this new staff,
and these are coaches you want to lay your body
on the line for. It, believes the direct quote he used.
But that's high praise. That's not something they just say.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Well, a couple of things about camp I don't pretend
to know him very well. I talked to him a
couple of times face to face, a couple times off
the record when he first got here. But Sheridan was
interesting talking about him because you got the impression that
Sheridan knew very quickly. Some people were put on this
earth to coach. Yeah, a lot of people coach, not
people are successful at it. But this guy was meant
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to do it. And there's no doubt that Sheridan thinks
the Camp you know, is going to be an NFL
head coach and knew is going to be a great coordinator.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
The most interesting thing about Camp.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I interviewed him one of the first days he got here,
turned the recorder off and I asked him about his
scheme and this is off the record, but I don't
think he'll mind me sharing this.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
And he kind of.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Scoffed, and you know, we talked about scheme of bit
and he goes, you know, Johnny, Scheme's fine. It's how
much these guys know you believe in him. And that
resonated so much in every player you talk to about him.
That's the first thing they say, he's meant to do
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this after last year. These players clearly believe that this
guy is in their corner, this guy cares about him,
and I'd be really surprised if there's not a pretty
significant I don't know about stats, but you're gonna see
a difference in the defense.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
O hope.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So because last year it was so bad, I can't
add much on Camp other than I love what Josh
heines Allen said last week when he smiled.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And said he's a lot great. I mean, that's exactly
what I want to hear.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I can't add something about Bill Sheridan, a former Jaguars
assistant coach once coached with Bill Sheridan at Michigan, and look,
you know these older veteran guys that come in, and
there have been a number of them through the years,
Nobody pays a whole lot of attention to them. But
this coach called me when Sheridan was hired and said
that guy will make a big difference with a first
time defensive coordinator. So to see Bill Sheridan and delicted
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to him last week and to hear him talk about
Campanelli and the way that he coaches, that's good credibility.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I looked here, sorry, Yan.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Interesting thing that when I was sitting with Sheridan, even
beyond Campanelli as a play caller, he.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Kind of gushed, is the right word.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
We couldn't say enough about how the players are responding
to camp.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
In the NFL. That's everything.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
If these guys don't believe in you, you got no chance.
And these guys believe in this coordinator can't.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Fake that, that's for sure. Stay with here on Jagsam
We're gonna check in around the AFC South, see what's
going on with the Texans, move the Frey, move the freight.
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three days here. Not a ton different from OTAs, but
you do have to be here. That's mandatory. So we're
gonna check in on some of the other teams around
the AFC South. We've already talked about the Titans and
the Colts, so now it's time checking on the Texans.
They're having mandatory mini camp this week as well, and
so far CJ. Stroud has not been throwing. We'll see
what happens in mini camp. Obviously that's maybe a little
(21:07):
more ononus on him participating, but there'd be a little
dodgy about it. Tamiko Ryan said, it's just, you know,
general soreness and kind of deflected and got a little
fidgety when the media is asking about it. So I'm
curious he gets beat up a lot. He was sacked
a ton last a few ton fifty six is a
ton a literal Ton physically metaphorically, we're making it up. Anyway.
(21:27):
He gets sacked all the time. I'm not surprised he
was banged up. Probably a lot of stuff goes off
in the off season. But at this point to not
be throwing is interesting to me because as we saw,
you know, Trevor had an off season surgery early. Obviously,
now he's thrown shoulder, but still and to be at
this point and not be throwing with her team I
did my spidy senses are going off well.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Obviously Kenny Richardson up in Indianapolis who has shoulder issues
after complaining of soreness, and they don't know when he's
going to be ready to play.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But here's the interesting part. They just they overhauled everything
John in Houston.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
The offensive line is they traded Laramie Tunsel, they bring
in Cam Robinson. He's not the only offensive lineman. Stefan
Diggs is now in New England. Tak Dell is not
likely to play this year, let alone be able to
practice at any point in the future. And they fired
Bobby Slowick and they brought in Nick Calli to be
the offensive coordinator from Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I mean so much is different.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You'd want to have your quarterback throwing, even on a
pitch count at this point to get the most out
of his reps before camp begins.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, and I'm a Texans fan. I'm probably not panicking
over all that because a lot of teams change stuff
at the same time. It's for Stroud not to be
throwing in many camp. Maybe there's nothing wrong, but it's
fair for people to wonder why.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Because he was good last year. But I don't think
he made the jump that they expected.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I mean, we all saw as a rookie and you
expected sort of an acceleration.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It didn't really happen, so.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I would think I obviously it's just ODDI if if
Trevor wasn't throwing, it would be the A block B
block problem of this show. So in perspective, that's certainly
something to watch for a starting quarterback, not to throw
a manikin.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And we should mention as well, cause he's got some
new targets he's throwing too. Obviously, Nico Collins probably out
for the year, but Christian Kirk, a familiar face to us,
is now in Houston, and you know he's not throwing
with a starting quarterback. Obviously, Christian Kirk's of that. He'll
be fine, but when you add some new additions to
the offense, it's we know it's big for Trevor Lawrence
to be working with his new receiver, so you'd imagine CJ.
Stroud would want to do the same. But I hope
(23:38):
Christian Kirk is healthy. We'll see what he can bring
to that team down there, but it'll be interesting to
see him in a Texan's uniform.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Yeah, and I think most people will watch this show that.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Many many players come through here where you think, Okay,
they're gone.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
It's fine. Christian is a guy everybody like I.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I hope he can have personal success without texting successes.
My guess is if you really pulled Christian aside and
said where would you love to I think he would
have loved to have been here with Trevor, with this team.
I think he liked this franchise a lot. Circumstances don't
always allow you to finish your career where he want to,
(24:18):
but good luck to him.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
This great kid cap figure was twenty seven million dollars.
It goes that way. Nico Collins will be CJ. Stroud's
favorite target. Because he's that big play guy. But this
guy here could easily be his favorite receiver, the guy
that he trusts, who will always be where he is
supposed to be, because Christian Kirk always was.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
But unfortunately for Christian always yes when he's on the field.
But he has not finished the last two seasons. So
I hope for his sake that dead doesn't become what
defines the end of his career, because that was also
a big reason the cap.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Had he been fully healthy, I do wonder they wouldn't
have tried to figure out something. But you don't finish
two seasons in a row deep into your career, it
becomes an issue.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
All right, stay with us. We'll tell you what's coming
up the rest of this offseason and when training camp's
going to kick off. Welcome back into Jagvam, our final
jagxam of the off season. When we come back to
you guys in a few weeks, it will be training
camp and we'll officially be the next year, so we'll
(25:28):
see real football, John, how much pads hitting.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Well, we'll got four or five days at the start.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
If you're to sort of go through the acclaimation period,
the acclamation period.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I want an acclamation period, right, the last thirty one
years haven't done it for you? Well, in life, I
could have used an acclamation period. They just threw me
into the pool. We're all good and this is what happened. John.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
What's your favorite part of training camp?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
The end, because it means the real stuff is really here.
I'm saying that facetiously, but you really do training camp
to get to the games, obviously, But in this case,
the favorite part will definitely be watching the offensive line,
watching the defensive line, finding out if everything we're talking
about is real.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
There'll be an energy this year.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
There always is, but with this new regime offensive line,
there'll be an energy watching that stuff is this summer.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I like following the storylines.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You get on a guy, you're watching him, whatever position
it is, and then you get to the preseason games
and see if what you've seen on the practice field
can translate whether they really have a chance or if
they're just like one of many flashes in training camp
where they make a play but they can't sustain it.
So I like to see them on Saturday nights, right,
preseason game.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yes, we get to see it every night, every day.
I mean throughout the year and throughout that month and
kind of get to know them a little bit and
kind of see them as they evolve and as the
team evolves together as well, especially with the new coaching staff.
It should be very fun. So enjoy your summer break.
We'll enjoy our summer break, and we'll see you back
in late live. Let's start training to cont
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