August 7, 2025 • 26 mins
Kainani Stevens, John Oesher and Brian Sexton are back live at training camp. The crew reviews TE Brenton Strange's comments from his press conference yesterday and assesses the state of the Jaguars' tight end room through camp so far. Later, they check in on the Pittsburgh Steelers as they prepare to head down to Jacksonville for Preseason Week 1. This and more on Jags A.M., presented by Fields Auto Group.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome into JAG's am our twelfth practice day. We're getting
things ready, We're getting things geared up for the first
preseason game of the year. We don't know who'll be
playing this yet, but I, for one, I'm very excited
to see some real football. Ky Nannie Stevens here, Brian Sexton,
John Oser with me. We are live outside at Jaguars'
training camp from the Miller Electric Center. Either I'm dead
inside or it's gotten a little bit cooler.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's not deadly hot. It couldn't just be in my
I don't know what day does anymore because I am
dead inside.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Okay, so when they opened the door, there was a
wall of humidity that hit us.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
But it doesn't feel so bad right now.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm being optimistic. Okay, there's not one hundreds, So it's
a win. Is describing training camp in Jacksonville, Florida.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
This is a win.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Absolutely, we've had We're kind of a dog days of
it now, but we got a preseason game to talk about,
so that's exciting. And also I feel like we've seen
some progress in certain areas I want to talk about.
Let's start out with big thing Number one, which is
in command Trevor Lawrence looked great yesterday. We saw him
in the scrimmage operating really well with this new offense,
and we've talked about how he feels more comfortable out there.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Grant you.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Dinsky talked to us yesterday and he talked a little
bit about giving Trevor leniency, specifically if he makes a
mistake throws an interception to kind of move on from that.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
It's the same mindset and approach with every snap, but
giving them the comfort and confidence to move on from
a throw like that, you know, to progress differently and
to learn from that mistake. I think with reps and
times he sees it, he recognizes the mistake and he'll improve.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's in reference to interceptions through in the scrimmage on Friday,
Brian nothing gets the past.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Foe Stulf.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't think anybody was particularly hard on Trevor, but
I feel like they've given him an ownership in this
offense to where his demeanor is a bit different and
we've seen his command of the offense.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It's his now, it is And the word that I
want to use with him is resilience.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Right, we talked about this team last year, John not
being a really resilient team. They didn't respond in the
fourth quarter in close games. But Trevor, after a admittedly
underwhelming practice the day before, came out yesterday and owned it.
And he made a beautiful throw on the one headed
catch to Brenton Strange and then you know the run
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to the right in the goal line where it was
a risky throw, but he put the ball on a
dime to Diamie Brown and I just I walked away
thinking Trevor has taken up big step forward.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Yeah, and look, he didn't have a great practice on Monday,
but you don't have great practices every day. I don't
anticipate having a very good show today, but you guys
will pick me up right here, John, I'll come back
tomorrow and be a lot better. What you look for
from him during training camp is steady growth and it's
not going to be like this. It's going to be
(02:56):
And he had a day like this and then he
came back. Somebody asked me why. I thought that was
because he's human, right, So in the last four or
five days and Brian Kai, I think you feel this
as well. You've seen solid stuff from him. You feel
like overall this is a guy who's comfortable in what
he's doing. He knows what they're asking of him. He's
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still working through the footwork stuff, but it has to
be expected. He's learning a new language and he's trying
to speak that language consistently all the time. Now I'm
more optimistic about him than I have been since Cincinnati
in twenty three when it all started going south. I
feel like he's back on track, I would agree. And
(03:38):
since you talked about footwork, Kay, I think the word
with him is traction. It feels like he's getting traction
with the offense.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And for what Liam's expectations are for him as the
leader of this team, I feel like he's rising to
the occasion.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And when you talk about resiliency, I think just in
contrast to what we felt last year and just being
around the team, felt like you were waiting for the
pin to drop at every point, for something to go wrong,
and it doesn't feel that way. Obviously, we're going to
get to games soon, so we'll see how it goes,
but it doesn't feel like they're waiting for the other
shoot to drop anymore. Feels like they're in control of
their own destiny, which is a good place to be.
Let's talk about one of the weapons Trevor's been throwing too.
(04:11):
Our second big thing today is going to be high flying.
We talked a little bit about the wide receiver group
group yesterday, but Parker Washington has had a great training
camp so far, had one of his best days in
practice yesterday. Grant he don't see offensive coordinator talked a
little bit about.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And you see a guy who can win consistently against
man coverage and match coverage, tight coverage like that, make
plays on the ball, tack the ball with his hands.
Those are encouraging for the play caller. They give you
comfort to give him isolation routes and put them in
different spots, just like we talked about Dyami's ability to
line up in different spots.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
It trusts.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It allows you to trust Parker to be at different spots.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
On the field.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
A guy goes down here, he can plug and place
at different spots and go and execute a wide route.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Treat John during training camp.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I feel like there's some days where maybe you don't
see a certain player, they don't really jump out to you.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It feels like Parker's doing something every day where you.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Know, yeah, and look I'm not gonna say the whole
roster is there yet because you wouldn't expect it to
be in a regime change. Parker Washington third year looking
like this is what good franchises have all over the roster. Yes,
he's a six round draft pick who in his third
year now is showing you that if there's a problem
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somewhere at receiver, he can step in and they're not lost.
He shouldn't have been the number two guy last year.
You feel great with him as the number four, and
you feel like when he gets in there's no drop off.
There is real depth wide receiver on this team. I'm
not sure how many other places there are, but that's
an example of where you've got to get Brian.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
They shall have to go do it on the field, right,
But if they're right about Theammy Brown at Travis Hunter,
we believe they are. Parker Washington is the guy who
makes this the deepest I've ever seen this wide receiver room.
I mean, even going back to Jimmy McKinnon, they struggle
to find the three.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Now they may have a four.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Think about the flexibility John that that gives Liam Cohen
and Grant you Dinsky to be able to create mismatches
and to attack a defense. It's gonna be tough enough
to cover Travis Hunter in the slot. Now, what are
you gonna do with Parker Washington? I mean, yeah, it
really is.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
He's right. This is the mark of a franchise that's
on the right track.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's exciting.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Also, when we talked a little bit about wide receiver
five who that might be Trap's CTN is gonna be
a big part of this past game as well as
we've seen the usage.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So far in training camp. So that's exciting as well.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Don't want to forget our final big thing game prep.
We've got a preseason game on Saturday. We'll talk more
in depth about the Steelers coming to town. We do
not know if the starters will play, how long they
will play, what it's going to be, but we do
know this will be the first NFL head coaching game
for Liam Cohen as head coach Brian What can we expect?
What we're gonna learn a lot stylistically about how he's
gonna coach.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I just get the sense Kai and John that we're
not gonna see a whole lot. He's got the advantage
of not being in the position where he has to
show much. I think we're gonna see a lot of
the basics of what he expects, how he expects effort
and intensity and guys to play. He talked earlier this
week about not needing to play his starters too much,
but then having the experience in Tampa getting some quality reps.
(07:19):
I don't know where he's gonna play him too much,
but I think we're gonna see some very basic things.
But he's going to talk about effort, intensity and hustle
and things like that.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I think he'll learn more about what a head coach
goes through one game day. Then we'll learn about him,
because I don't think he'll show very much what he's
going to do in the regular season the preseason. I
anticipate this is my gut. I think he'll play starters
tomorrow as this as this team gets more his as
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these guys have played in systems before. I don't know
if he'll do that moving forward next year, but I've
just got to believe that he's gonna want these guys
to feel game day together before week one.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
And that's just me guessing.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
He has not pulled me aside and told me that
about the fundamentals right of what he expects his team
and how he expects them deployed right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And I think with so many new faces, new system
in place, it'd be nice to see him out there
at least for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yes, it would be all right.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Stay with us, We're going to.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Talk about the game against the Steelers coming up, and
also do deep dive into the tight end room. Tell
you who's in there after the break. Jag Zam brought
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Speaker 2 (08:35):
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Speaker 7 (08:39):
Honestly, from a playing aspect, I don't think it's much different,
because obviously Evan was down last year for a lot
of games, so I had to take on that role.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
But it was different.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
I was in and out of it, you know, so
and when you're in and out of it, you know
obviously the reps are different, the roles are different, what
you're going to be asked to do in the game,
plans different. So that changed week the week in which
it kind of messed with me a little bit last year,
just trying to understand and feel my way and trying
to always prepare. But I think something that I've done
good ever since I've honestly been in college, and that
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my college coaches taught me was to always prepare like
you're going to be a starter. And I think that
that paid off on me last year, and no matter
if I was a starter or whatever it was last year,
that's how.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I always prepared.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Brenton Strange entering year three. For him, obviously we're gonna
talk about the tight ends right now. He's probably one
of the only ones you're gonna remember from last season
because they really overhauled that room other than the coach
and Brenton Strange right there. But entering his third year,
we saw him in flashes.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
As he mentioned.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Obviously, Evan Ingram was a favorite for Trevor Lawrence, but
Evan Ingram dealing with some injuries last year. So we
saw a decent amount of Brenton Strange and he certainly
has the ability, but he's excited to kind of know
that that is his role in the offense going in
this year.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
He made a big catch yesterday on that one handed
grab and it made me wonder, John, how good can
he be?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Right?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I mean, he doesn't look a Travis Kelcey, Greg Kittle
kind of guy. But yet I thought a Dallas Goddard,
you know, a guy who's gonna catch fifty five sixty balls,
six seven touchdowns, and it'd be a differentiator in the
offense because he's he's going to attack the middle and
force a defense to adjust. He looks like he could
be that kind of impactable player.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, I think what you said hits it on the head.
Bare minimum he's gonna matter, meaning bare minimum defensive coordinators
can't ignore him. I think bare minimum is gonna be good.
We saw last year. I think he had forty catches.
I think it was about four hundred yards if I'm
remembering right, and he can up that, I think their
room is pretty good around him. At the very least,
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he's going to be a high level blocker. Whatever he
gives you as a receiver beyond that forty mark I
think is gravy because I don't think they necessarily need
him to be the productive pass catcher that Devin Ingram
was because they've got so much more on the outside now,
So if he can compliment that and scare defenses in
the interior, I think he's a big part of the
going to do.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know, the other thing about him is because we
kind of got to know Am a little bit off
Mike off camera. He's real serious about football. I mean
really serious about football, and that approach is exactly what
they're trying to build around here.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Absolutely, I think he's excited about every aspect of playing
a tight end. Sometimes you talk to the tight ends
and they want to be a wide receiver, right, They're
not as much into the blocking. You get the feeling
from him he's just excited to lay somebody out and
do run blocking as he is as catching a football.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Yeah, they want to run better around here, and you know,
I don't want to see him get hurt if they're
going to attain that goal. I think he's really important
for that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Let's take a look at this group because a lot
of these names are new, so some of some experience
brought in. Obviously, Hunter Long and Johnny Munt both in
LA at one point, so James Gladstone kind of knew
them that way in free agency bringing those guys in.
And also some other names, Quinson Morris, Patrick Herbert, Justin
Herbert's little brother.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's a rookie this year. He's on the roster as well.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
John Copenhaber, we don't really know how this room is
gonna shake out, whether they'll carry three or four, what
that's going to be exactly, but there.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Is some experience there. Bretton Strange talked about it. He says, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
The one that's been here, but some of these guys
have been in the league for a lot longer than me,
and they can bring in that experience and help me
out in that way as well.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So it's certainly not him trying to tell them what
to do.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
The Hunter Long and the Johnny Munch strike me as
dependable options, not just because they understand they've been in
the system. But you know, there are guys who gets
to modest success. You know, thirty catches a couple hundred yards.
They know the role, they understand the offense, and they're
gonna be key pieces in packages.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah, I've gotten questions people concerned about their tight end room,
where they gonna sign more guys. I think those questions
come from people who haven't heard of the tight end.
And my question is, unless you play fantasy football, how
many tight ends after Kelsey and Kittle have people heard of?
And I'm exaggerating that. But the point is these two
guys are really consistent, and if you've watched practice, when
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Hunter Long's healthy, he can contribute in his passing game.
I'm not saying he's gonna catch hundrey yards with the balls,
but the other day he caught a forty five yard
pass and it didn't look like a fluke. So they
like their tight end room. I think a lot more
than people might think when you just glance at the
names and start and start looking for Pro Bowlers, and
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they love Breton Strange.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean, he's a guy.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
If you've watched our stuff, you realize they think of
him as a potential core guy.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
If you haven't watched him, and if he plays in
the preseason, just watch the effort, watch the way he
finishes to play. That's what really stands out about him.
We talked about how seriously he is about football. He's
really serious about being a complete tight end, and in
an era where there's more receiving tight ends necessarily than
the complete tight end, Brenton Strange really stands out in
the way that he plays the game with effort, in
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intensity and.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Kyle Munten and Long knowing the offense is really key
for why they're here. It's harder for a tight end
to learn an offense than the other two positions, meaning
line or wide receiver, because you've kind of got to
know everything. The big reason that they're positives is that
they have such experience in this scheme.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, grant you.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Dinsky talked a little bit yesterday about Johnny Mount. He
was with him in Minnesota, brought him down here. That's
going to be part of this, but he talked a
little bit about how helpful it is to have someone
that already knows where they need to be in the system.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Really could be.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
More than that because of that flexibility, because he can
block so many different run schemes in the run game.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
He can line up inline, he can line up.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
As a wing, he can be going back across the
formation when he's off the ball, he can be in motion,
he can run a pretty wide route tree. So that
versatility is hard to guard because you can be an
eleven personnel twelve personnel, and he can be doing such
a variety of different things.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Versatility obviously the word of the day when it comes
to the tight end position, but these guys really do
have to do a little bit of everything, and it's
going to be different than we've seen in the past. Obviously,
the way Doug Peterson used tight ends is going to
be the different than the way Liam Cohen uses tight ends.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But it is nice to know that they have the
options with them.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, they don't want him to be receivers necessarily, and
in Doug's offense, Evan Ingram played receiver. Let's face it,
that's not what they're looking for these guys to do
their chess pieces on the board.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
You know they're not gonna see him on the field
all the time, but when they are, it's going to
be a very specific package that they've got where they
want the tight end. So I just john, you talked
about the roster death a little while ago, when we're
talking about wide receivers. The thing that I like about
this is that they're completely confident that they've got guys
that fit what they want to do and allow them
to open up the entire playbook. So many times over
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the last number of years, you just knew that Jaguars
didn't have enough of those pieces on board, and it
really limited defenses could step up and challenge and take
away your best players for the first time in a while.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I don't feel like they're gonna be able to do
that here.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Yeah, we'll see. I mean, the games haven't started yet,
but it just feels like a lot of the free
agents we talked about and didn't talk about a whole
lot are going to matter a great deal. It feels
like they did a nice job. All regimes try to
do this so far, Brown, Jordan Lewis, you know, these
guys feels like they've done a nice job of fitting
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pieces and that they wont that they had been able
to draft because they weren't here the guys that you
normally would have drafted.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
One more SoundBite from Brenton Strange, who talked a little
bit yesterday about now that he kind of knows his
role in the offense, he's working on building that trust
up with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
I think that each day I'm coming out here and
just trying to earn Trevor's trust more and more, because
that's a big part of it. You know, He's had
a relationship with obviously like BT. Like BT, it was
there for him all last year and then, like I said,
I was in and out of games last year, so
I wasn't always the guy that he was throwing the
balls to or whatever it was. So I think that
that's a big thing for me. It's just coming out
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here and just not only proven to Trevor, but proven
to the coaches and proven to my teammates as well,
that I can be a reliable playmaker for this team.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Brian, We've seen in the past Trevor Lawrence likes to
throw the people he likes to throw to, He's gonna
have a lot of them are gone, so.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
He's gonna have to make new favorites, but a lot
of them working towards that.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Ki Britton was a rookie in twenty twenty three when
he watched Evan Ingram catch one hundred and fourteen past,
the second most by a tight end in a single
season in the league history. He knows that this quarterback
likes that position. And when he says earn his trust,
I mean it's he's going to be in the right
spot on every play, and that's going to give Trevor
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the chance to build the same relationship he had with
Evan Ingram.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It might not be one hundred and fourteen catching.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It almost certainly won't because Brian Thomas Junior, and Travis
Hunter and Diami Brown and even Parker Washington. But man,
if it's fifty five and they're the right ones on
third down and seven, he's got a chance to be
Evan Ingram like in terms of his dependability.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Yeah, if Brenton Strange catch one hundred and fourteen, something's
gone hardly alright. So but I do think Strange has
probably practiced more with Trevor than he's played. And it
certainly looks to me out here like Trevor is confident
in the four wide receivers, meaning Parker Washington as well.
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But it it feels to me like he doesn't hesitate
to go to Strange and then he trusts him and
he likes him. I think it's important.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's nice to establish at this point in training camp,
so when the games happen, we'll have that trust.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
There as well.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Say us, we're going to talk a little bit about
preseason game number one against the Steelers coming up on Saturday.
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Speaker 1 (18:38):
Of the year against the Steelers and going up against
Mike Tomlin. Yes, it's the preseason, but you can always
learn a little bit something from a guy that's been
doing it that long Head coach Liam Cohen said earlier
this week he called Tomlin kind of see what his
plans were for the game. We'll find what out find
out whatever that is on Saturday, but have to imagine
that's a good resource.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Steffy, long time and at a very high level, obviously
never having a losing season in what eighteen years. I'm
really interested, John, because these Steelers have taken a dramatic
departure from what the Steelers have always been. They're not
a free agent team. They're a team that drafts and develops.
And yet they went out and they signed Aaron Rodgers,
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and they trade for DK Metcalf and they trade for
Jalen Ramsey, and I mean, these are things that the
Steelers long resisted. It was not part of their DNA
or their personality, and it feels like they are rolling
the dice in a completely new era.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I haven't talked to him in a while, Brian, but
imagine our friend vic Oh has thoughts, many.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Of which would not be suitable for the show.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Yeah, it's absolutely They were for years, really them along
with the Ravens. But the Steelers since I started coming
to the league have always been that team of we're
gonna do what we do, We're gonna draft and develop.
This feels like a Steelers team that is reaching into
free agency, really departing from their past. I'm sure fans
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like it, because fans love that. I think old Sealer
fans probably a little uncomfortable with it. So we'll see
how it works. Man, They've done that in the past
and always gone back to what they were. But they
will be one of the teams to watch because when
Aaron Rodgers is on your team these days, Pat McFee
talks about you, well, you get the.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Sense that they went this route with Ramsey and DK
and all of those guys because they made the mistake
at the quarterback position a couple of years ago. They
drafted the kid out of pitt who last year was
in Philly and now is in Cleveland. They were hoping
to find their next quarterback after Ben Roethlisberger, and they missed,
and so they had to do something about quarterback and
this was their best option. So if you're going to
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bring in Aaron Rodgers, will ye, you've got to bring
in other guys around it. You're putting it all on
today for a team that was ten and seven last year,
although it didn't necessarily feel like a ten and seventeen.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
To push your chips in year, and the Steelers don't
usually push chips in like that. They usually go like
the Ravens do, which is long term.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So we'll see what happens to I am very intrigued
by this because I feel like there's a lot of
personality Aaron Rodgers and Jalen Ramsey alone, but Mike Tomlin's
notoriously been able to wrangle that into something in the past,
Antonio and Brown, what he's doing with last year as
well some of his other wide receivers. If there's anyone
that can do it, it's Mike Tomlin. But I am
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curious to kind of see how this plays out.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Which personality which you'd rather deal with Aaron Rodgers, who
last year proved to be more more curial than we
knew or Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Who we know?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You guys know Jalen.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I think Jalen, right, I'd rather I don't know. You're
a big Jalen guy. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I think what's interesting is it's a big child. If
anybody can handle those guys, Tomlin can't. I have grave
re sect from Mike Tomlin. He's usually handled Antonio Brown
and that cast younger in their careers. Yes, Jalen and
Aaron are old enough to tune people out. I don't
know if they will tune people out, but they're old
enough to do it. Jalen has tuned people out before.
(22:12):
So look, it's going to be absolutely fascinating. And it
again hip the theme. There's many teams that are fascinating
like this. It's weird to see the Steelers label on
this sort of fascination.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm interested in how Jalen reacts to being in Pittsburgh.
That's a place when you go in there, you were
part of the Steelers, you're not necessarily your even though
Antonio Brown was sort of that way. I wonder if
it impacts him because of where he's at in his career.
I mean, he's at that point now where he's getting
towards the end, and his legacy is not as defined
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as a player of his abilities should be. Well, he's
moved around a lot.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
He's done it to himself.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
And it's interesting because there are franchises where he's gone
to that he's had a chance going in to be
a legacy corner. He'll never be the legacy corner in Pittsburgh.
There's two guys that will always be considered better. So
I don't know if that matters. But if you're looking
at it from his perspective, mel Blunt, Rod Woodson, in
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that organization, those kind of names still permeate. So will
he fit into that tradition.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I don't know if he wants to, if he's willing
to be humbled to a point.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I know that sounds so weird to say he'll do that,
But if he wants to be can he can take
a great step forward, no doubt with his reputation and listen,
he's a guy with Hall of Fame talent.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
You at some point you've got to have somebody behind you.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
We know this that pops up and starts talking about
you in those meetings, that's willing to advocate for you.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I don't know who it is right now.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Maybe someone in Pittsburgh can grab that if he goes
in and is part of a team that does something special.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Pittsburgh is similar to New England in a way where
sometimes they get those later in their career free agents,
but if you go in with effort, they will fully
take you into open arms for sure. And that as
you're mentioning, you know, Hall of Fame you looking back
at like that, you definitely need that symphoria.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
All right, So coming back, we'll do our final word
after the break. Here on Tag's Am Jags fans.
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Speaker 2 (24:33):
I don't care. I'm excited to see real football. What
are you excited to see? Brian? We don't know what
we're going to see, but what do you want to see?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I want to see the fundamentals. I want to see
what's important to the coach.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I mean, he's been talking about fast right, fundamentally, sound, attacking, smart, tough.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Those are the.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Things that I expect that we will see Liam Cohen emphasizing.
Hear him emphasizing in the postgame, and I'd like to
see it team that plays that way. This is a
team that's sort of limped to the end of last season,
and it all feels new and different. In fact, John
I said to someone this morning watching them go through
their walkthrough here in front of us inside, that this
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team has the posture the confidence of a team that
was nine to eight last year, not four and thirteen.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I'd like to see that on Saturday night.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Yeah, if the starters play, you'd like to see the
offense have a couple of series where they get a
few first downs, maybe get a touchdown, come off the
field feeling good about what they've been sort of like
you felt about after the scrimmage the other night. So
you'd also like to see four or five of the
guys we've been talking about, like maybe a Cephas of
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a Quint Allen, somebody like that, sort of step up
and show, Okay, we're going from camp storyline to a
guy who can maybe contribute during the regious season.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I think.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
I think guy the Quint Allen for fans who are
watching seventh round running back, somebody to really watch during
the preseason.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
All the running back, I think, or someone to keep
an eye on. I'm excited about the offensive line, the offense, defense.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
We're gonna do all of it real football.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Jag Zam's back with you three days a week starting
next week, so we will be back on Monday and
we will recap that first preseason game of the year
from Saturday.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So enjoy your weekend.
Welcome into JAG's am our twelfth practice day. We're getting
things ready, We're getting things geared up for the first
preseason game of the year. We don't know who'll be
playing this yet, but I, for one, I'm very excited
to see some real football. Ky Nannie Stevens here, Brian Sexton,
John Oser with me. We are live outside at Jaguars'
training camp from the Miller Electric Center. Either I'm dead
inside or it's gotten a little bit cooler.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's not deadly hot. It couldn't just be in my
I don't know what day does anymore because I am
dead inside.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Okay, so when they opened the door, there was a
wall of humidity that hit us.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
But it doesn't feel so bad right now.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm being optimistic. Okay, there's not one hundreds, So it's
a win. Is describing training camp in Jacksonville, Florida.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
This is a win.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Absolutely, we've had We're kind of a dog days of
it now, but we got a preseason game to talk about,
so that's exciting. And also I feel like we've seen
some progress in certain areas I want to talk about.
Let's start out with big thing Number one, which is
in command Trevor Lawrence looked great yesterday. We saw him
in the scrimmage operating really well with this new offense,
and we've talked about how he feels more comfortable out there.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Grant you.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Dinsky talked to us yesterday and he talked a little
bit about giving Trevor leniency, specifically if he makes a
mistake throws an interception to kind of move on from that.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
It's the same mindset and approach with every snap, but
giving them the comfort and confidence to move on from
a throw like that, you know, to progress differently and
to learn from that mistake. I think with reps and
times he sees it, he recognizes the mistake and he'll improve.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's in reference to interceptions through in the scrimmage on Friday,
Brian nothing gets the past.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Foe Stulf.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't think anybody was particularly hard on Trevor, but
I feel like they've given him an ownership in this
offense to where his demeanor is a bit different and
we've seen his command of the offense.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It's his now, it is And the word that I
want to use with him is resilience.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Right, we talked about this team last year, John not
being a really resilient team. They didn't respond in the
fourth quarter in close games. But Trevor, after a admittedly
underwhelming practice the day before, came out yesterday and owned it.
And he made a beautiful throw on the one headed
catch to Brenton Strange and then you know the run
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to the right in the goal line where it was
a risky throw, but he put the ball on a
dime to Diamie Brown and I just I walked away
thinking Trevor has taken up big step forward.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Yeah, and look, he didn't have a great practice on Monday,
but you don't have great practices every day. I don't
anticipate having a very good show today, but you guys
will pick me up right here, John, I'll come back
tomorrow and be a lot better. What you look for
from him during training camp is steady growth and it's
not going to be like this. It's going to be
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And he had a day like this and then he
came back. Somebody asked me why. I thought that was
because he's human, right, So in the last four or
five days and Brian Kai, I think you feel this
as well. You've seen solid stuff from him. You feel
like overall this is a guy who's comfortable in what
he's doing. He knows what they're asking of him. He's
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still working through the footwork stuff, but it has to
be expected. He's learning a new language and he's trying
to speak that language consistently all the time. Now I'm
more optimistic about him than I have been since Cincinnati
in twenty three when it all started going south. I
feel like he's back on track, I would agree. And
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since you talked about footwork, Kay, I think the word
with him is traction. It feels like he's getting traction
with the offense.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And for what Liam's expectations are for him as the
leader of this team, I feel like he's rising to
the occasion.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And when you talk about resiliency, I think just in
contrast to what we felt last year and just being
around the team, felt like you were waiting for the
pin to drop at every point, for something to go wrong,
and it doesn't feel that way. Obviously, we're going to
get to games soon, so we'll see how it goes,
but it doesn't feel like they're waiting for the other
shoot to drop anymore. Feels like they're in control of
their own destiny, which is a good place to be.
Let's talk about one of the weapons Trevor's been throwing too.
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Our second big thing today is going to be high flying.
We talked a little bit about the wide receiver group
group yesterday, but Parker Washington has had a great training
camp so far, had one of his best days in
practice yesterday. Grant he don't see offensive coordinator talked a
little bit about.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And you see a guy who can win consistently against
man coverage and match coverage, tight coverage like that, make
plays on the ball, tack the ball with his hands.
Those are encouraging for the play caller. They give you
comfort to give him isolation routes and put them in
different spots, just like we talked about Dyami's ability to
line up in different spots.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
It trusts.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It allows you to trust Parker to be at different spots.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
On the field.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
A guy goes down here, he can plug and place
at different spots and go and execute a wide route.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Treat John during training camp.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I feel like there's some days where maybe you don't
see a certain player, they don't really jump out to you.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It feels like Parker's doing something every day where you.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Know, yeah, and look I'm not gonna say the whole
roster is there yet because you wouldn't expect it to
be in a regime change. Parker Washington third year looking
like this is what good franchises have all over the roster. Yes,
he's a six round draft pick who in his third
year now is showing you that if there's a problem
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somewhere at receiver, he can step in and they're not lost.
He shouldn't have been the number two guy last year.
You feel great with him as the number four, and
you feel like when he gets in there's no drop off.
There is real depth wide receiver on this team. I'm
not sure how many other places there are, but that's
an example of where you've got to get Brian.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
They shall have to go do it on the field, right,
But if they're right about Theammy Brown at Travis Hunter,
we believe they are. Parker Washington is the guy who
makes this the deepest I've ever seen this wide receiver room.
I mean, even going back to Jimmy McKinnon, they struggle
to find the three.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Now they may have a four.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Think about the flexibility John that that gives Liam Cohen
and Grant you Dinsky to be able to create mismatches
and to attack a defense. It's gonna be tough enough
to cover Travis Hunter in the slot. Now, what are
you gonna do with Parker Washington? I mean, yeah, it
really is.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
He's right. This is the mark of a franchise that's
on the right track.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's exciting.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Also, when we talked a little bit about wide receiver
five who that might be Trap's CTN is gonna be
a big part of this past game as well as
we've seen the usage.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So far in training camp. So that's exciting as well.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Don't want to forget our final big thing game prep.
We've got a preseason game on Saturday. We'll talk more
in depth about the Steelers coming to town. We do
not know if the starters will play, how long they
will play, what it's going to be, but we do
know this will be the first NFL head coaching game
for Liam Cohen as head coach Brian What can we expect?
What we're gonna learn a lot stylistically about how he's
gonna coach.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I just get the sense Kai and John that we're
not gonna see a whole lot. He's got the advantage
of not being in the position where he has to
show much. I think we're gonna see a lot of
the basics of what he expects, how he expects effort
and intensity and guys to play. He talked earlier this
week about not needing to play his starters too much,
but then having the experience in Tampa getting some quality reps.
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I don't know where he's gonna play him too much,
but I think we're gonna see some very basic things.
But he's going to talk about effort, intensity and hustle
and things like that.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I think he'll learn more about what a head coach
goes through one game day. Then we'll learn about him,
because I don't think he'll show very much what he's
going to do in the regular season the preseason. I
anticipate this is my gut. I think he'll play starters
tomorrow as this as this team gets more his as
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these guys have played in systems before. I don't know
if he'll do that moving forward next year, but I've
just got to believe that he's gonna want these guys
to feel game day together before week one.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
And that's just me guessing.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
He has not pulled me aside and told me that
about the fundamentals right of what he expects his team
and how he expects them deployed right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And I think with so many new faces, new system
in place, it'd be nice to see him out there
at least for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yes, it would be all right.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Stay with us, We're going to.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Talk about the game against the Steelers coming up, and
also do deep dive into the tight end room. Tell
you who's in there after the break. Jag Zam brought
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Speaker 2 (08:35):
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Speaker 7 (08:39):
Honestly, from a playing aspect, I don't think it's much different,
because obviously Evan was down last year for a lot
of games, so I had to take on that role.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
But it was different.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
I was in and out of it, you know, so
and when you're in and out of it, you know
obviously the reps are different, the roles are different, what
you're going to be asked to do in the game,
plans different. So that changed week the week in which
it kind of messed with me a little bit last year,
just trying to understand and feel my way and trying
to always prepare. But I think something that I've done
good ever since I've honestly been in college, and that
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my college coaches taught me was to always prepare like
you're going to be a starter. And I think that
that paid off on me last year, and no matter
if I was a starter or whatever it was last year,
that's how.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I always prepared.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Brenton Strange entering year three. For him, obviously we're gonna
talk about the tight ends right now. He's probably one
of the only ones you're gonna remember from last season
because they really overhauled that room other than the coach
and Brenton Strange right there. But entering his third year,
we saw him in flashes.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
As he mentioned.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Obviously, Evan Ingram was a favorite for Trevor Lawrence, but
Evan Ingram dealing with some injuries last year. So we
saw a decent amount of Brenton Strange and he certainly
has the ability, but he's excited to kind of know
that that is his role in the offense going in
this year.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
He made a big catch yesterday on that one handed
grab and it made me wonder, John, how good can
he be?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Right?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I mean, he doesn't look a Travis Kelcey, Greg Kittle
kind of guy. But yet I thought a Dallas Goddard,
you know, a guy who's gonna catch fifty five sixty balls,
six seven touchdowns, and it'd be a differentiator in the
offense because he's he's going to attack the middle and
force a defense to adjust. He looks like he could
be that kind of impactable player.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, I think what you said hits it on the head.
Bare minimum he's gonna matter, meaning bare minimum defensive coordinators
can't ignore him. I think bare minimum is gonna be good.
We saw last year. I think he had forty catches.
I think it was about four hundred yards if I'm
remembering right, and he can up that, I think their
room is pretty good around him. At the very least,
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he's going to be a high level blocker. Whatever he
gives you as a receiver beyond that forty mark I
think is gravy because I don't think they necessarily need
him to be the productive pass catcher that Devin Ingram
was because they've got so much more on the outside now,
So if he can compliment that and scare defenses in
the interior, I think he's a big part of the
going to do.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know, the other thing about him is because we
kind of got to know Am a little bit off
Mike off camera. He's real serious about football. I mean
really serious about football, and that approach is exactly what
they're trying to build around here.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Absolutely, I think he's excited about every aspect of playing
a tight end. Sometimes you talk to the tight ends
and they want to be a wide receiver, right, They're
not as much into the blocking. You get the feeling
from him he's just excited to lay somebody out and
do run blocking as he is as catching a football.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Yeah, they want to run better around here, and you know,
I don't want to see him get hurt if they're
going to attain that goal. I think he's really important
for that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Let's take a look at this group because a lot
of these names are new, so some of some experience
brought in. Obviously, Hunter Long and Johnny Munt both in
LA at one point, so James Gladstone kind of knew
them that way in free agency bringing those guys in.
And also some other names, Quinson Morris, Patrick Herbert, Justin
Herbert's little brother.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's a rookie this year. He's on the roster as well.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
John Copenhaber, we don't really know how this room is
gonna shake out, whether they'll carry three or four, what
that's going to be exactly, but there.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Is some experience there. Bretton Strange talked about it. He says, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
The one that's been here, but some of these guys
have been in the league for a lot longer than me,
and they can bring in that experience and help me
out in that way as well.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So it's certainly not him trying to tell them what
to do.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
The Hunter Long and the Johnny Munch strike me as
dependable options, not just because they understand they've been in
the system. But you know, there are guys who gets
to modest success. You know, thirty catches a couple hundred yards.
They know the role, they understand the offense, and they're
gonna be key pieces in packages.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah, I've gotten questions people concerned about their tight end room,
where they gonna sign more guys. I think those questions
come from people who haven't heard of the tight end.
And my question is, unless you play fantasy football, how
many tight ends after Kelsey and Kittle have people heard of?
And I'm exaggerating that. But the point is these two
guys are really consistent, and if you've watched practice, when
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Hunter Long's healthy, he can contribute in his passing game.
I'm not saying he's gonna catch hundrey yards with the balls,
but the other day he caught a forty five yard
pass and it didn't look like a fluke. So they
like their tight end room. I think a lot more
than people might think when you just glance at the
names and start and start looking for Pro Bowlers, and
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they love Breton Strange.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean, he's a guy.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
If you've watched our stuff, you realize they think of
him as a potential core guy.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
If you haven't watched him, and if he plays in
the preseason, just watch the effort, watch the way he
finishes to play. That's what really stands out about him.
We talked about how seriously he is about football. He's
really serious about being a complete tight end, and in
an era where there's more receiving tight ends necessarily than
the complete tight end, Brenton Strange really stands out in
the way that he plays the game with effort, in
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intensity and.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Kyle Munten and Long knowing the offense is really key
for why they're here. It's harder for a tight end
to learn an offense than the other two positions, meaning
line or wide receiver, because you've kind of got to
know everything. The big reason that they're positives is that
they have such experience in this scheme.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, grant you.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Dinsky talked a little bit yesterday about Johnny Mount. He
was with him in Minnesota, brought him down here. That's
going to be part of this, but he talked a
little bit about how helpful it is to have someone
that already knows where they need to be in the system.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Really could be.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
More than that because of that flexibility, because he can
block so many different run schemes in the run game.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
He can line up inline, he can line up.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
As a wing, he can be going back across the
formation when he's off the ball, he can be in motion,
he can run a pretty wide route tree. So that
versatility is hard to guard because you can be an
eleven personnel twelve personnel, and he can be doing such
a variety of different things.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Versatility obviously the word of the day when it comes
to the tight end position, but these guys really do
have to do a little bit of everything, and it's
going to be different than we've seen in the past. Obviously,
the way Doug Peterson used tight ends is going to
be the different than the way Liam Cohen uses tight ends.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But it is nice to know that they have the
options with them.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, they don't want him to be receivers necessarily, and
in Doug's offense, Evan Ingram played receiver. Let's face it,
that's not what they're looking for these guys to do
their chess pieces on the board.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
You know they're not gonna see him on the field
all the time, but when they are, it's going to
be a very specific package that they've got where they
want the tight end. So I just john, you talked
about the roster death a little while ago, when we're
talking about wide receivers. The thing that I like about
this is that they're completely confident that they've got guys
that fit what they want to do and allow them
to open up the entire playbook. So many times over
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the last number of years, you just knew that Jaguars
didn't have enough of those pieces on board, and it
really limited defenses could step up and challenge and take
away your best players for the first time in a while.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I don't feel like they're gonna be able to do
that here.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Yeah, we'll see. I mean, the games haven't started yet,
but it just feels like a lot of the free
agents we talked about and didn't talk about a whole
lot are going to matter a great deal. It feels
like they did a nice job. All regimes try to
do this so far, Brown, Jordan Lewis, you know, these
guys feels like they've done a nice job of fitting
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pieces and that they wont that they had been able
to draft because they weren't here the guys that you
normally would have drafted.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
One more SoundBite from Brenton Strange, who talked a little
bit yesterday about now that he kind of knows his
role in the offense, he's working on building that trust
up with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
I think that each day I'm coming out here and
just trying to earn Trevor's trust more and more, because
that's a big part of it. You know, He's had
a relationship with obviously like BT. Like BT, it was
there for him all last year and then, like I said,
I was in and out of games last year, so
I wasn't always the guy that he was throwing the
balls to or whatever it was. So I think that
that's a big thing for me. It's just coming out
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here and just not only proven to Trevor, but proven
to the coaches and proven to my teammates as well,
that I can be a reliable playmaker for this team.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Brian, We've seen in the past Trevor Lawrence likes to
throw the people he likes to throw to, He's gonna
have a lot of them are gone, so.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
He's gonna have to make new favorites, but a lot
of them working towards that.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Ki Britton was a rookie in twenty twenty three when
he watched Evan Ingram catch one hundred and fourteen past,
the second most by a tight end in a single
season in the league history. He knows that this quarterback
likes that position. And when he says earn his trust,
I mean it's he's going to be in the right
spot on every play, and that's going to give Trevor
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the chance to build the same relationship he had with
Evan Ingram.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It might not be one hundred and fourteen catching.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It almost certainly won't because Brian Thomas Junior, and Travis
Hunter and Diami Brown and even Parker Washington. But man,
if it's fifty five and they're the right ones on
third down and seven, he's got a chance to be
Evan Ingram like in terms of his dependability.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Yeah, if Brenton Strange catch one hundred and fourteen, something's
gone hardly alright. So but I do think Strange has
probably practiced more with Trevor than he's played. And it
certainly looks to me out here like Trevor is confident
in the four wide receivers, meaning Parker Washington as well.
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But it it feels to me like he doesn't hesitate
to go to Strange and then he trusts him and
he likes him. I think it's important.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's nice to establish at this point in training camp,
so when the games happen, we'll have that trust.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
There as well.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Say us, we're going to talk a little bit about
preseason game number one against the Steelers coming up on Saturday.
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Speaker 1 (18:38):
Of the year against the Steelers and going up against
Mike Tomlin. Yes, it's the preseason, but you can always
learn a little bit something from a guy that's been
doing it that long Head coach Liam Cohen said earlier
this week he called Tomlin kind of see what his
plans were for the game. We'll find what out find
out whatever that is on Saturday, but have to imagine
that's a good resource.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Steffy, long time and at a very high level, obviously
never having a losing season in what eighteen years. I'm
really interested, John, because these Steelers have taken a dramatic
departure from what the Steelers have always been. They're not
a free agent team. They're a team that drafts and develops.
And yet they went out and they signed Aaron Rodgers,
(19:18):
and they trade for DK Metcalf and they trade for
Jalen Ramsey, and I mean, these are things that the
Steelers long resisted. It was not part of their DNA
or their personality, and it feels like they are rolling
the dice in a completely new era.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I haven't talked to him in a while, Brian, but
imagine our friend vic Oh has thoughts, many.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Of which would not be suitable for the show.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Yeah, it's absolutely They were for years, really them along
with the Ravens. But the Steelers since I started coming
to the league have always been that team of we're
gonna do what we do, We're gonna draft and develop.
This feels like a Steelers team that is reaching into
free agency, really departing from their past. I'm sure fans
(20:05):
like it, because fans love that. I think old Sealer
fans probably a little uncomfortable with it. So we'll see
how it works. Man, They've done that in the past
and always gone back to what they were. But they
will be one of the teams to watch because when
Aaron Rodgers is on your team these days, Pat McFee
talks about you, well, you get the.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Sense that they went this route with Ramsey and DK
and all of those guys because they made the mistake
at the quarterback position a couple of years ago. They
drafted the kid out of pitt who last year was
in Philly and now is in Cleveland. They were hoping
to find their next quarterback after Ben Roethlisberger, and they missed,
and so they had to do something about quarterback and
this was their best option. So if you're going to
(20:47):
bring in Aaron Rodgers, will ye, you've got to bring
in other guys around it. You're putting it all on
today for a team that was ten and seven last year,
although it didn't necessarily feel like a ten and seventeen.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
To push your chips in year, and the Steelers don't
usually push chips in like that. They usually go like
the Ravens do, which is long term.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So we'll see what happens to I am very intrigued
by this because I feel like there's a lot of
personality Aaron Rodgers and Jalen Ramsey alone, but Mike Tomlin's
notoriously been able to wrangle that into something in the past,
Antonio and Brown, what he's doing with last year as
well some of his other wide receivers. If there's anyone
that can do it, it's Mike Tomlin. But I am
(21:30):
curious to kind of see how this plays out.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Which personality which you'd rather deal with Aaron Rodgers, who
last year proved to be more more curial than we
knew or Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Who we know?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You guys know Jalen.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I think Jalen, right, I'd rather I don't know. You're
a big Jalen guy. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I think what's interesting is it's a big child. If
anybody can handle those guys, Tomlin can't. I have grave
re sect from Mike Tomlin. He's usually handled Antonio Brown
and that cast younger in their careers. Yes, Jalen and
Aaron are old enough to tune people out. I don't
know if they will tune people out, but they're old
enough to do it. Jalen has tuned people out before.
(22:12):
So look, it's going to be absolutely fascinating. And it
again hip the theme. There's many teams that are fascinating
like this. It's weird to see the Steelers label on
this sort of fascination.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm interested in how Jalen reacts to being in Pittsburgh.
That's a place when you go in there, you were
part of the Steelers, you're not necessarily your even though
Antonio Brown was sort of that way. I wonder if
it impacts him because of where he's at in his career.
I mean, he's at that point now where he's getting
towards the end, and his legacy is not as defined
(22:48):
as a player of his abilities should be. Well, he's
moved around a lot.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
He's done it to himself.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
And it's interesting because there are franchises where he's gone
to that he's had a chance going in to be
a legacy corner. He'll never be the legacy corner in Pittsburgh.
There's two guys that will always be considered better. So
I don't know if that matters. But if you're looking
at it from his perspective, mel Blunt, Rod Woodson, in
(23:12):
that organization, those kind of names still permeate. So will
he fit into that tradition.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I don't know if he wants to, if he's willing
to be humbled to a point.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I know that sounds so weird to say he'll do that,
But if he wants to be can he can take
a great step forward, no doubt with his reputation and listen,
he's a guy with Hall of Fame talent.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
You at some point you've got to have somebody behind you.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
We know this that pops up and starts talking about
you in those meetings, that's willing to advocate for you.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I don't know who it is right now.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Maybe someone in Pittsburgh can grab that if he goes
in and is part of a team that does something special.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Pittsburgh is similar to New England in a way where
sometimes they get those later in their career free agents,
but if you go in with effort, they will fully
take you into open arms for sure. And that as
you're mentioning, you know, Hall of Fame you looking back
at like that, you definitely need that symphoria.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
All right, So coming back, we'll do our final word
after the break. Here on Tag's Am Jags fans.
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Speaker 2 (24:33):
I don't care. I'm excited to see real football. What
are you excited to see? Brian? We don't know what
we're going to see, but what do you want to see?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I want to see the fundamentals. I want to see
what's important to the coach.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I mean, he's been talking about fast right, fundamentally, sound, attacking, smart, tough.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Those are the.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Things that I expect that we will see Liam Cohen emphasizing.
Hear him emphasizing in the postgame, and I'd like to
see it team that plays that way. This is a
team that's sort of limped to the end of last season,
and it all feels new and different. In fact, John
I said to someone this morning watching them go through
their walkthrough here in front of us inside, that this
(25:12):
team has the posture the confidence of a team that
was nine to eight last year, not four and thirteen.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I'd like to see that on Saturday night.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Yeah, if the starters play, you'd like to see the
offense have a couple of series where they get a
few first downs, maybe get a touchdown, come off the
field feeling good about what they've been sort of like
you felt about after the scrimmage the other night. So
you'd also like to see four or five of the
guys we've been talking about, like maybe a Cephas of
(25:42):
a Quint Allen, somebody like that, sort of step up
and show, Okay, we're going from camp storyline to a
guy who can maybe contribute during the regious season.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I think.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
I think guy the Quint Allen for fans who are
watching seventh round running back, somebody to really watch during
the preseason.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
All the running back, I think, or someone to keep
an eye on. I'm excited about the offensive line, the offense, defense.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
We're gonna do all of it real football.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Jag Zam's back with you three days a week starting
next week, so we will be back on Monday and
we will recap that first preseason game of the year
from Saturday.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So enjoy your weekend.
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