October 8, 2025 • 28 mins
Kainani Stevens, Brian Sexton and John Oehser break down the 31-28 win over the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday Night Football and look ahead as the Jaguars host the Seattle Seahawks in Week 6 of the 2025 NFL Season. This and more on Jags A.M., presented by Jet Home Loans.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome into another victory edition to Jagsam. I'm handan Exceevans
Frian Sexton, John Oser with me. We're a little bit
later in the week because it was Monday Night football
here in Jacksonville this week, the only primetime matchup of
the year, and boy was it a good one. We
were hoping for a great outing and we got a
great game and a great win for the Jags as
they improve on the season, and they've only got one loss.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Pretty looking pretty good so far through five weeks. Let's
start out with our big things. It's actually three.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Big people, So we're gonna start out with Trevor Lawrence,
who had a performance to remember on Monday Night football,
none more memorable than that final play on offense for
him to get the game winning touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know, we had a a good goal line play
that we liked offul little play action and but never
got to see it because what's going down as I
came out at the center. So I mean, I'm just panic, honestly,
because I was trying to get up to get the
ball out of my hand. So the clock, I mean,
we didn't have any time else, so just try I
was really gonna just stand up and like launch it
out of the back of the end zone. But then I
had a little bit of a lane, so I took it,
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and you know, scored from there.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Brian, the perfect example of no, no, yes. Trevor falls
down twice before he finds his way into the end zone.
And I'll say it myself, I had some stuff written
up earlier on because I was so disappointed with some
of the plays early on from Trevor. But in the
second half just showing the resolve resilience that we talk
about it a ton, but he won that game for
them late Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
He took us on a roller coaster ride, right, penalties
and turnovers, you know, mixed in with big throws, especially
on that last drive, and at times you're wondering, is
he going to do this or is he going to
miss this? And it's my hot take, so I'm not
going to go too far down the road other than
to say that it was your thrill ride because it
ended with him in the end zone in a really
(02:01):
big moment. Happy birthday, Trevor.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Yeah, but I thought in the second half you could
see him. I don't know if it's a funk or whatever.
Or just starting to embrace it. First of all, the
interception not his fault at all. It was interference. But
in the second half they have been wanting him to
go for the moment, to go for the play when
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it's there, and for the biggest play of the game
to be a ball that he threw to Brian Thomas
Junior where he just let it rip. Hopefully he channels
let it rip moving forward, because I thought that was
the key. As much as Stumble Ruski was.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
The memory, I like do fall as well. I've I've
seen some good options on Twitter. We'll see what everybody
likes and we'll come up with one name after this week.
Our second big thing, second big person, Devin Lloyd, who
is your AFC Defensive Player of the Month for September
and now continuing into October, a ninety nine yard pick six,
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talked a little bit about how this team is different
and wassaw on that play.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
First of all, I'm just super proud of this team
for finding a way to win. I know we've been
in situations like this and we weren't always able to
capitalize in the past, but this is a completely different
team and I'm just proud of everybody, you know, for
believing and executing when we needed it. And as far
as a pick, it was just a great call. It
was a zero look and I was able to pop
out and we know the ball's coming out quick, so
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it's really about me get my eyes back and get
in the right vicinity. So the ball was right there, thankfully.
And picked up a couple of blocks. Those were big.
I don't know if I would have made it if
I didn't get those, So, you know, grateful for for
everybody who helped me get to the end zone.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
John, we talked a lot last week about needing a
play from the defense. We've seen takeaways, but the Chiefs
don't always throw a lot of interceptions or turn the
ball over at all.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But not only to get.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
The interception there, but taking it back ninety nine yards.
I have not heard this stadium that loud, and probably
the time since I've been here, maybe before that for sure,
But that was just the Markee moment for me.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
In that game.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Yeah, and it was the longest regular season interception term
for a touchdown by linebacker ever, so that's a long time,
great record like that. I actually started laughing during the
middle of the play. When Devon was returning it because
it was like who else was going to do this?
What an incredible storyline. It's almost been comical how much
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he's around the ball and Brian and it was old
science fiction stuff when like when we were kids many
years ago, there'd be a little tube and they would
sort of teleport and all of a sudden they'd appear.
It's like Devin Lloyd, first round pick, has sort of
teleported and now he's here and it's everything you expected,
everything physically that he could be. There's not enough to
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say about him. What credit to the kid to be
playing like this And it's not a fluke.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
It's who he was in Utah And that's why we
were also frustrated. He was a guy who had sacks, interceptions,
forced fumbles, fumbles, recovered touchdowns, and we'd seen moments early
in his career of him being around the ball, but
nothing consistent at all. He's Fred Warner right now. I mean,
there are very few linebackers who are six three two forty.
Those guys have become edge rushers in today's game, and
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he's in the middle of the defense making plays. He's
as good a linebacker as there is in the AFC
right now, and I don't know how you don't have
him already plotted into your future. I get the salary
cap and understand the dynamics of things that change, but
this is a verifiable star at this point. And those
guys you build around them.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I think they've renamed the Player of the Week award,
the Den, the Devin Lloyd Award, or just the Devon.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think the Devin a little mystique. I like that
the Devon.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Our final big thing is Liam Cohen. He's come in
here seen as four and one. He's shifted the culture already.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Brian.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
We talk a lot about you know what that means,
because people come in and talk about culture shifts, but
to actually put those words into action and what we've
seen so far, because we talked against the forty nine
ers and even on Monday Night football, those are games
like wars, don't win. Maybe they play well, but they
don't find a way. And this team has enough confidence
in themselves if they make a mistake to find a
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way to win.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
He set the standard. He came in and talked about
what he wanted his football team to look like, and
we've been through it a number of times, fundamentally sound, attacking,
situational masters and toughness, and you know, as you watch
him go through the course of a game and into
the postgame locker room video that was posted last night,
he exemplifies all of that and his team follows him.
He's very clearly a gifted natural leader and the kind
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of guy that brought well, Johnny, you just look at
a team that lost nine games out of ten opportunities
just like this last year, and they flipped it in
five weeks. The coach had a formula, set a standard,
his team is following it and it's awesome to watch.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, the flippant part is part of my hot take,
so I want to go into that, but Brian, you
can correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will.
Jack del Rio, I think, was the only other coach
without any head coaching experience when he got this job, right,
Liam was had never been a head coach, thirty nine
years old. What I wondered was I knew reputation wise,
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he could call an offense and he was, you know,
one of the latest offensive geniuses. You didn't know if
he would be the head coach, which is everything a
leadership connecting with players. He's off the charts. I mean,
it's it's to change this and to have players believing
in you and to be handling, you know, leading the
(07:35):
leading the ship is remarkable. For five games and he's
changed his franchise. It's it's very, very impressive.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The buying has been spectacular and we got a huge
win on Monday Night Football. Stay with us, we'll go
back over the highlights from that big wag.
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Speaker 7 (08:02):
Yeah, it's a goof you finished. But what a tough
moment for him to be able to say, like he
just he wasn't gonna lose, and that's kind of really
what it comes down to. He wasn't gonna lose, and
he made an unbelievable individual effort that hopefully can continue
to springboard us a goofy finish.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
We haven't quite picked the name for it yet, but
to get back up and find your way into the
end zone, that's something memorable. On primetime on Monday Night Football,
we got the drama we asked for.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Listen, somebody asked me for my top ten Jaguars regular
season games. That's probably in the top three.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, probably, so absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Let's look at some of the some of the tape.
We're gonna start with highlights. We're gonna do highlights. The
first one's not a highlight necessarily. It's this QB sneak
early in the game, which felt a little to me like,
is this gonna be a turning point where we look
back and say what if?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Because we've all seen Trevor do the reach over the
top as he tries to jump.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's not my favorite life. I was assuming we weren't
doing that anymore.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Listen, you thought right back immediately everyone went to Tennessee
end up twenty twenty three, a chance to tie and
stay in the playoff race. There, what are you doing?
This is what I talked about John when I met
Roller Coaster Ride. There were moments like this with plays
that we have become accustomed to seeing from the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Well, you know, I thought he scored, but because he didn't,
it's a bad play. Williams sort of intimated afterward that
it was more of a push push and and he
should have stayed down. I guess I would tell you
that probably the same instinct that told him not to
throw the ball out of bounds on the last play
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was the same instinct that told him to go after
this on this play. He could have thrown the ball
out the bounce in the last play and you know
what happened. So I guess it's hard to take the
spirit out of the wild horse, but.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You got to live with some things like that.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah. So, but my guess is we'll see less reaching
from here on out.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Let's go to Mahomes's rushing touchdown. The first one had
that little bit of a pick play. On the broadcast,
they said, may or may not, you know, was it
one yard line?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Was it one yard from scrimmage?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
What have you? This was Mahomes rushing. This is where
I felt Trayvon was missed a little bit. Og was
in for him here and Mahomes out doing Mahomes things.
And we talked about that discipline you need to see
on the passworsh because this is what he can do.
He gets out sat e the rushes or he finds
someone open after scrambling a bit.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So this was a little tough.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Early felt like the defense took a little bit to
get settled against the Chiefs offense.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Guess I'm very hesitant to criticize anything defensively when you're
playing Mahomes, I think you can play great defense and
this guy can do these things. On this sort of thread,
I thought the defense had two or three second quarter
early third where a lot of times the Chiefs, once
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they get going, will roll through that and end the game.
The Jaguars defense, once Trevor got the second touchdown, the
Jaguars defense had a little period there where they said
no and got them back in the game where it
could be sort of an even footing. So against the Chiefs, Brian,
you watch them a lot, Yep, that's what you have
to do, and I thought they did that in big moment.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Well, if people forget Devin Lloyd scores a touchdown, right,
you go up twenty one to fourteen, and then the Jaguars
got the Chiefs off the field, got the ball back. Yeah,
and then it was that next series that there was
the pass interference that became the interception. So yeah, the
Jaguars defense did their thing.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Let's take a look at that Travis Hunter catch because
we talk about big players making big plays in big
moments and all we've been hearing where's these Travis Hunter plays,
where's his marquee moment? This is a marquee moment for
Trevor step up in the pocket, get throw it up there,
and for Travis Hunter to go up and come.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Down with it. It felt vindicating.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
We've seen him do it, whether it's in practice or
you know, made that PI call, that bad PI call against.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Him against the Bengals. For him to have this marking moment,
it was needed.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You know, that's a huge play and they talked about
how they worked on it after practice. I loved the
little twelve yard you know, first down where he made
that dynamic move to get back to the outside. He
showed you last night that he is a player who
will draw people's eyes to the television. He is that
electrifying of an offensive and defensive threat.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah. Kay, you and I have talked and I probably
said it on the air. I've been wondering he's been
great on defense and you can see all pro level
on defense, and I've sort of been like, how is
his talent going to make the impact that they want
because we hadn't seen it. And then when he caught
that pass. I said, Oh, okay, John, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It is.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
It was a remarkable catch. If you saw how high
he was off the ground. All we've heard about is
the body control and the ability to make the play
in the moment. That was body control and he was
way up. I mean, it was an impressive play and I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Sold another marking moment. We're going to jump ahead TI game.
Devin Lloyd interception and for Camp to kind of call
that as well, knowing what the Chiefs liked to do
when they're in the red zone. For Devin to be
able to stay there and follow the ball and get
an interception and run it back nine nine yards, I
get wind and looking at this, so it's just I
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know we've talked about Devin a ton, but even just
the defense being in the right place.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
At the right time. Well.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Lloyd talked in his postgame, and Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes
did as well. Lloyd said that his key was the
center looking back at him, and if he saw the
center turning his direction, he had to get back out
into that flat area and he made that key. And
Andy Reid said they know that that's the way that
the Jaguars play it and that they got We're called
poppers popping back out. I just was remarkable play for
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a linebacker John who everyone thought didn't have the situational awareness, right,
I mean the last couple of years. I remember the
game early in his career in Indianapolis where they just
turned him inside and out. It was remarkable to see
him execute that place so flawless.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Well, we talked a lot about Devin Lloyd, and you
know so on the play if you noticed Dwan Smooth's
seventy yards downfield blocking, and so is Josh eines Allen.
I love Dwan Smoot. I wasn't sure that he could
run that fast that far, but that speaks to the
effort and the all in nature of this team right now,
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which Devin mentioned on the podium as well. That return
probably ends around the twenty if those guys aren't downfield.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Let's jump ahead to that final drive. Trevor's throw to
BTJ for me was the highlight for him. I know
he scored the game winning touchdown, but this throw is
something we know he's capable of doing. But to have
it in that moment, and as we've talked about whether
it's inconsistency from Trevor Or Brian Thomas Junior for them
to have the faith that they have in each other
and to make that throw where that is the only
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spot you can put that football where Brian's gonna be
able to come down with it and get stay in bounds.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
And he hit it was an indefensible pass. There was
nothing that's great defense could do.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yeah, And as much as both of them have been
criticized this year, Trevor and Brian Thomas Junior, they're probably
three and two without two huge moment plays by them.
And what did we sit on this couch and harp
on all last year? Team couldn't make plays in big moments.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Ago, let's do it. We love it all right? And
the stumble bumble rouskie do fall?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
What have you stumble in the jungle?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I'm I'm waiting for more. I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It's coming to us. The internet is undefeated. They'll figure
it out. But this play is just all the range
of emotions. And that's you know, sometimes watching Trevor, you
get all the arrange of emotions going for.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
The Trevor Lawrence was down twice.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I like that, You know, if you look closely at this.
You see that Ezra Cleveland comes and cleans up a
hole for him. And also on the backside you had
George Carloftis who had gotten free, and Travis etn looks
and sees what's going on and then gets his body
just to slow down carl Loftus who might have chased
him down from behind. So there were some quiet heroes
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out there who didn't get their name called. But if
they don't do what they do in that instance when
everything's breaking down around them, he doesn't score.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah, it's all effort and it's all plays. What's that phrase?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Characters?
Speaker 6 (16:36):
What you do?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
And nobody's watching. They were all plays. If they hadn't
made them, nobody would have blamed them for not making them.
And you know, I guess if he gets tackled with
twenty four seconds there, they probably have time to get
up in dirt the ball and they're still running play,
so they were probably gonna be okay. But again, what
a big play in a big moment. And again one
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will be talking about as long as we do this.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
But what's amazing is you see the effort from Ezra,
from Travis, and then there's Chris Jones just walking his
way down the golden effort wasn't on right, all pro
future Hall of Famer, a guy who has three championship
rings and he's just sauntering to see the Jaguars want
it more than the Chiefs. Was gratified.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
It's been defining their five games this year. All effort,
physicality and belief and want to.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I want to was definitely there.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
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Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's a big win. Like I mean, obviously, it's a
good team. They've been a good team for a long time.
They're hard to beat. I mean they really are. They're
really good. Situationally, don't beat them. So you know, at
the end of the game, they're always in it. They
always seem to make the plays. And today you know,
they they went down and got some points there and
we had to go win it. So it was cool.
For us to go take it and have to go
win at the end, put together a good drive and
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it's just another step for our team. I think showing
up on a big stage does say something. You know,
it's a big game, big.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Game statement win.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I think it's fair to say at this point, I'm
just so pleased to see. I knew they'd play well
because I felt like going into this it's just a
different Jags kind of team. But to beat the Chiefs,
who always find a way even when they played badly,
that said something to me.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And I had someone from Kansas City tell me before
the game that these guys were wound up to come
in here because they had watched the Chargers lose and
they believed at that moment that the AFC West was
still theirs, and they had watched the Bills lose, and
they believed that their name was still written on the AFC.
So the Chiefs came out wild eyed, and you saw
it early. You know, they're used to playing these primetime,
big stage games, and they came out all fired up
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because they believed it was their opportunity to get within
a game and prove they were still the big dogs
in the AFC yeah, I have.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
A take on that, but a'll away for my hot take.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, why don't you do your hot take first, John.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Listen, one of two things was going to happen yesterday.
Either Trevor Lawrence was going to make the moment or
the moment was going to make him. That was a
stage game for him, a statement game, and it was
up and down and back and forth again. Penalties, the
turnover on the goal line, some bad throws mixed in
with some spectacular plays. But there at the end when
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he is on the ground, that was his opportunity to
remember because he'd have the five yard penalty that he
had gotten them the goal to go with seconds left
to play, and if he had fallen down and been touchdown,
you don't have to imagine too hard what the conversation
would be today. That was a moment that he either
used to make his own or would be used to
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make it for him. And Trevor Lawrence made the moment
last night and now has a completely different perspective national
spotlight about who he is as a quarterback, and I
hope he believes it.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, it's interesting. As you were talking, I was thinking
of the phrase in tennis they use the phrase on
his racket, meaning if it's on a player's racket, then
that player is either going to make an air or
he's going to hit a winner, and he's going to
decide the match and the other players playing defense on
him against Patrick Mahomes, when you look back on that game,
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Trevor sort of kept the game on his racket. He
was the one deciding that he wasn't scared of the moment.
He hears criticism and whatnot, and on the biggest play
of the game third and seven, where if it's an
incomplete pass, you're facing fourth and seven, he makes the
play to Ryan Thomas Junior that you know that was
a no fear play. He kept on his racket and
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he won the match the way that.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
He would not be stopped. He fell on twice and
got up and kept going forward. There's that will to win.
I have wanted to see that level of grit from
him during a game, and I've seen moments, but I
hadn't seen it consistently. And you'd have to say that
from the point in the game that they went down
fourteen to nothing, there was a lot of that. The
way that he was running the ball was very much
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an example of that. But at the end that get
up and step over step, I thought it was freaking
awesome and he made the moment.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
John, what's your hot take for us?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Well, it's this is what they are, and it's sort
of redundant because we've been saying that all year, but
you're in week five now, and by week five or
six in the NFL, a lot of the mysteries are gone.
A team is an identity, and they're a team that
fights and wins. And I thought what was most impressive
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was they had led and been in control of all
their games, even Cincinnati, even San Francisco. They had trailed
for and it was a little over nine minutes. I
thought last night going in that they needed to run early,
established momentum, get set nothing, gets seven to three, get
fourteen three up, and then hold on. They didn't do that.
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They got down against a team where every fiber of
their being could have been that's the Chiefs. Well it
was the Chiefs and fourteen seven, and then didn't always
get you know, didn't get right back in it. It
was a remarkably gutty performance that shows you that this team,
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it's almost like in Men in Black when they hit
the thing, you forget the past. They don't remember what
happened before, and they don't identify with anything before. They
believe they're a team that goes win.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Did you see the stat on the Chiefs record with
Patrick Mahomes on the road and a fourteen point lead.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Probably they had won their last twenty two overall.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
This this morning they were twenty three and one. When
he has a fourteen point lead on the road.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
What I'll take the one.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I want to give some credit to some of the
rookie on this roster. We've talked a lot about, you know,
Trevor Laurre stepping up to the moment, Devin Lloyd. This
is a team now where if you're drafted, you're gonna
have an opportunity to play right right away. We saw
that play from Travis Hunter and that was something we
wanted to have a marquee moment for him. That catch
and also the shorter catch that Brian mentioned earlier, those
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are marking moments and he was taking advantage of the
reps that were given to him.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
But I also want to give some shout outs to
some other people.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Jonah Manheim coming in cold off the bench and playing
as well as he did at center.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Is impressive to me.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Is there a late round kind of guy that you're
taking a flyer on, thinking, hey, maybe we can develop
him into something coming in in center after Hainesy went
out with injury, LeQuinn Allen and they're chip blocking Chris
Jones all night rayon lane on special teams.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
These are people that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Bacial Tutan who's like splitting carries with Etn at certain points.
These are players that you drafted and are putting in
positions to contribute to your team right away, and now
when they're in a primetime spotlight, they're ready to go.
This isn't something where you're throwing them out there and
they're panicking.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
They're playing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
They're a part of your team, and that's how you
win games at this point, when you have a full
rounded team of veterans and rookies.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That can contribute well.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
William Collins said on Tuesday that when they entered this
project of rebuilding of taking over the Jaguars, they were
going to play young players. And he told his coaching
staff and they talked to the personnel department that said,
get used to it. We're bringing guys in and We're
going to give them the chance to develop. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
It was a remarkable forms by Joan of Monheim in
the sense that he's the third guy now who has
come in and you haven't noticed that he's in on
the offensive line. And I looked down and I saw
a zero first and I was like, oh, did they
move van Land into center? And it was just sort
of the veteran instinct in me. They say, well, they
must be putting somebody with some extent. But as there
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it was back all off season. All I've heard is
now Monheim is going to play if Hainesy's out. Credit
to him. One day he will start at center for
this team. Maybe not this year, next year, whatever because
the Hainesy, but he's going to be a long term Yeah,
long term guy.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And quite a moment for a debut as well. Big win.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
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Speaker 8 (25:40):
Talk about resilience, down fourteen to nothing, come back, one
plan a time.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
How about Den Let's think about all three phases made
a huge him packed in that ball day, all three phases.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Guys, not much we do. It's truly the most pretty
thing in the world. But guess what, man, guess what,
Guess what? Right, winning feels good.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Winning feels good.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I just love a Liam Cohen victory speech because he
just how about Devin f and Lloyd Like, yeah, exactly,
how about him?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, It's just it's so relatable.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean, we talked about up and down about Liam
coe It just feels like the right fit.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
There's an energy in that room. You can't deny it.
He brought it.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
I said before. He's been a remarkable fit and I
think he's going to be the coach here and a
successful coach in the NFL for a long time.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
All right, short week, Now, we've got to prepare for
the Seahawks before the London trip the following week. What's
the focus got to be to kind of, yes, ride
this wind, but also not overlook your next opponent.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
It's got to be all they're really good football team.
They're very close to being four and one, just like
the Jaguars are. They had some injuries last week, but
you know, Sam Darnold led five straight touchdown drives in
the second half to make that a game last week.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Well, they might be the best team they've played so
far and not maybe not by miles, but Seattle is
one of those teams that you really don't pay much
attention to over here because they're out west. They don't
necessarily have a superstar that gets them, you know, you know,
national recognition all the time. Yet every year they win
and they compete, and this year they look like it's
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very much like a favor in their division. And I
think he's the toughest matchup so far the season.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
They also think they have a defense that is going
to be worthy of its own name, kind of like
the Legion of Boom. They have a very talented group
up front. It's a great mixture of high round draft
choices and guys they've developed, and the secondary is very talented.
They played without some of those guys last week. Devin Witherspoon,
their stark owner didn't go. Julian Love, the safety didn't
go either, but it's an excellent team. Now they're coming
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here to play, probably on a hot Sunday at a
ten o'clock start. You got to take advantage of this
opportunity while you've got it.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
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Speaker 1 (28:14):
We're not going to be at home for a while
home game in London, but it won't be in Jacksonville
for a while, so you definitely want to come and
check that out on Sunday. Stay with us here on
Jagsam tomorrow we'll look ahead to that matchup
Welcome into another victory edition to Jagsam. I'm handan Exceevans
Frian Sexton, John Oser with me. We're a little bit
later in the week because it was Monday Night football
here in Jacksonville this week, the only primetime matchup of
the year, and boy was it a good one. We
were hoping for a great outing and we got a
great game and a great win for the Jags as
they improve on the season, and they've only got one loss.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Pretty looking pretty good so far through five weeks. Let's
start out with our big things. It's actually three.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Big people, So we're gonna start out with Trevor Lawrence,
who had a performance to remember on Monday Night football,
none more memorable than that final play on offense for
him to get the game winning touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know, we had a a good goal line play
that we liked offul little play action and but never
got to see it because what's going down as I
came out at the center. So I mean, I'm just panic, honestly,
because I was trying to get up to get the
ball out of my hand. So the clock, I mean,
we didn't have any time else, so just try I
was really gonna just stand up and like launch it
out of the back of the end zone. But then I
had a little bit of a lane, so I took it,
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and you know, scored from there.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Brian, the perfect example of no, no, yes. Trevor falls
down twice before he finds his way into the end zone.
And I'll say it myself, I had some stuff written
up earlier on because I was so disappointed with some
of the plays early on from Trevor. But in the
second half just showing the resolve resilience that we talk
about it a ton, but he won that game for
them late Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
He took us on a roller coaster ride, right, penalties
and turnovers, you know, mixed in with big throws, especially
on that last drive, and at times you're wondering, is
he going to do this or is he going to
miss this? And it's my hot take, so I'm not
going to go too far down the road other than
to say that it was your thrill ride because it
ended with him in the end zone in a really
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big moment. Happy birthday, Trevor.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Yeah, but I thought in the second half you could
see him. I don't know if it's a funk or whatever.
Or just starting to embrace it. First of all, the
interception not his fault at all. It was interference. But
in the second half they have been wanting him to
go for the moment, to go for the play when
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it's there, and for the biggest play of the game
to be a ball that he threw to Brian Thomas
Junior where he just let it rip. Hopefully he channels
let it rip moving forward, because I thought that was
the key. As much as Stumble Ruski was.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
The memory, I like do fall as well. I've I've
seen some good options on Twitter. We'll see what everybody
likes and we'll come up with one name after this week.
Our second big thing, second big person, Devin Lloyd, who
is your AFC Defensive Player of the Month for September
and now continuing into October, a ninety nine yard pick six,
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talked a little bit about how this team is different
and wassaw on that play.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
First of all, I'm just super proud of this team
for finding a way to win. I know we've been
in situations like this and we weren't always able to
capitalize in the past, but this is a completely different
team and I'm just proud of everybody, you know, for
believing and executing when we needed it. And as far
as a pick, it was just a great call. It
was a zero look and I was able to pop
out and we know the ball's coming out quick, so
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it's really about me get my eyes back and get
in the right vicinity. So the ball was right there, thankfully.
And picked up a couple of blocks. Those were big.
I don't know if I would have made it if
I didn't get those, So, you know, grateful for for
everybody who helped me get to the end zone.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
John, we talked a lot last week about needing a
play from the defense. We've seen takeaways, but the Chiefs
don't always throw a lot of interceptions or turn the
ball over at all.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But not only to get.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
The interception there, but taking it back ninety nine yards.
I have not heard this stadium that loud, and probably
the time since I've been here, maybe before that for sure,
But that was just the Markee moment for me.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
In that game.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Yeah, and it was the longest regular season interception term
for a touchdown by linebacker ever, so that's a long time,
great record like that. I actually started laughing during the
middle of the play. When Devon was returning it because
it was like who else was going to do this?
What an incredible storyline. It's almost been comical how much
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he's around the ball and Brian and it was old
science fiction stuff when like when we were kids many
years ago, there'd be a little tube and they would
sort of teleport and all of a sudden they'd appear.
It's like Devin Lloyd, first round pick, has sort of
teleported and now he's here and it's everything you expected,
everything physically that he could be. There's not enough to
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say about him. What credit to the kid to be
playing like this And it's not a fluke.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
It's who he was in Utah And that's why we
were also frustrated. He was a guy who had sacks, interceptions,
forced fumbles, fumbles, recovered touchdowns, and we'd seen moments early
in his career of him being around the ball, but
nothing consistent at all. He's Fred Warner right now. I mean,
there are very few linebackers who are six three two forty.
Those guys have become edge rushers in today's game, and
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he's in the middle of the defense making plays. He's
as good a linebacker as there is in the AFC
right now, and I don't know how you don't have
him already plotted into your future. I get the salary
cap and understand the dynamics of things that change, but
this is a verifiable star at this point. And those
guys you build around them.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I think they've renamed the Player of the Week award,
the Den, the Devin Lloyd Award, or just the Devon.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think the Devin a little mystique. I like that
the Devon.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Our final big thing is Liam Cohen. He's come in
here seen as four and one. He's shifted the culture already.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Brian.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
We talk a lot about you know what that means,
because people come in and talk about culture shifts, but
to actually put those words into action and what we've
seen so far, because we talked against the forty nine
ers and even on Monday Night football, those are games
like wars, don't win. Maybe they play well, but they
don't find a way. And this team has enough confidence
in themselves if they make a mistake to find a
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way to win.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
He set the standard. He came in and talked about
what he wanted his football team to look like, and
we've been through it a number of times, fundamentally sound, attacking,
situational masters and toughness, and you know, as you watch
him go through the course of a game and into
the postgame locker room video that was posted last night,
he exemplifies all of that and his team follows him.
He's very clearly a gifted natural leader and the kind
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of guy that brought well, Johnny, you just look at
a team that lost nine games out of ten opportunities
just like this last year, and they flipped it in
five weeks. The coach had a formula, set a standard,
his team is following it and it's awesome to watch.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, the flippant part is part of my hot take,
so I want to go into that, but Brian, you
can correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will.
Jack del Rio, I think, was the only other coach
without any head coaching experience when he got this job, right,
Liam was had never been a head coach, thirty nine
years old. What I wondered was I knew reputation wise,
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he could call an offense and he was, you know,
one of the latest offensive geniuses. You didn't know if
he would be the head coach, which is everything a
leadership connecting with players. He's off the charts. I mean,
it's it's to change this and to have players believing
in you and to be handling, you know, leading the
(07:35):
leading the ship is remarkable. For five games and he's
changed his franchise. It's it's very, very impressive.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The buying has been spectacular and we got a huge
win on Monday Night Football. Stay with us, we'll go
back over the highlights from that big wag.
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Speaker 7 (08:02):
Yeah, it's a goof you finished. But what a tough
moment for him to be able to say, like he
just he wasn't gonna lose, and that's kind of really
what it comes down to. He wasn't gonna lose, and
he made an unbelievable individual effort that hopefully can continue
to springboard us a goofy finish.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
We haven't quite picked the name for it yet, but
to get back up and find your way into the
end zone, that's something memorable. On primetime on Monday Night Football,
we got the drama we asked for.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Listen, somebody asked me for my top ten Jaguars regular
season games. That's probably in the top three.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, probably, so absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Let's look at some of the some of the tape.
We're gonna start with highlights. We're gonna do highlights. The
first one's not a highlight necessarily. It's this QB sneak
early in the game, which felt a little to me like,
is this gonna be a turning point where we look
back and say what if?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Because we've all seen Trevor do the reach over the
top as he tries to jump.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's not my favorite life. I was assuming we weren't
doing that anymore.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Listen, you thought right back immediately everyone went to Tennessee
end up twenty twenty three, a chance to tie and
stay in the playoff race. There, what are you doing?
This is what I talked about John when I met
Roller Coaster Ride. There were moments like this with plays
that we have become accustomed to seeing from the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Well, you know, I thought he scored, but because he didn't,
it's a bad play. Williams sort of intimated afterward that
it was more of a push push and and he
should have stayed down. I guess I would tell you
that probably the same instinct that told him not to
throw the ball out of bounds on the last play
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was the same instinct that told him to go after
this on this play. He could have thrown the ball
out the bounce in the last play and you know
what happened. So I guess it's hard to take the
spirit out of the wild horse, but.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You got to live with some things like that.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah. So, but my guess is we'll see less reaching
from here on out.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Let's go to Mahomes's rushing touchdown. The first one had
that little bit of a pick play. On the broadcast,
they said, may or may not, you know, was it
one yard line?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Was it one yard from scrimmage?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
What have you? This was Mahomes rushing. This is where
I felt Trayvon was missed a little bit. Og was
in for him here and Mahomes out doing Mahomes things.
And we talked about that discipline you need to see
on the passworsh because this is what he can do.
He gets out sat e the rushes or he finds
someone open after scrambling a bit.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So this was a little tough.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Early felt like the defense took a little bit to
get settled against the Chiefs offense.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Guess I'm very hesitant to criticize anything defensively when you're
playing Mahomes, I think you can play great defense and
this guy can do these things. On this sort of thread,
I thought the defense had two or three second quarter
early third where a lot of times the Chiefs, once
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they get going, will roll through that and end the game.
The Jaguars defense, once Trevor got the second touchdown, the
Jaguars defense had a little period there where they said
no and got them back in the game where it
could be sort of an even footing. So against the Chiefs, Brian,
you watch them a lot, Yep, that's what you have
to do, and I thought they did that in big moment.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Well, if people forget Devin Lloyd scores a touchdown, right,
you go up twenty one to fourteen, and then the Jaguars
got the Chiefs off the field, got the ball back. Yeah,
and then it was that next series that there was
the pass interference that became the interception. So yeah, the
Jaguars defense did their thing.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Let's take a look at that Travis Hunter catch because
we talk about big players making big plays in big
moments and all we've been hearing where's these Travis Hunter plays,
where's his marquee moment? This is a marquee moment for
Trevor step up in the pocket, get throw it up there,
and for Travis Hunter to go up and come.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Down with it. It felt vindicating.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
We've seen him do it, whether it's in practice or
you know, made that PI call, that bad PI call against.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Him against the Bengals. For him to have this marking moment,
it was needed.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You know, that's a huge play and they talked about
how they worked on it after practice. I loved the
little twelve yard you know, first down where he made
that dynamic move to get back to the outside. He
showed you last night that he is a player who
will draw people's eyes to the television. He is that
electrifying of an offensive and defensive threat.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah. Kay, you and I have talked and I probably
said it on the air. I've been wondering he's been
great on defense and you can see all pro level
on defense, and I've sort of been like, how is
his talent going to make the impact that they want
because we hadn't seen it. And then when he caught
that pass. I said, Oh, okay, John, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It is.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
It was a remarkable catch. If you saw how high
he was off the ground. All we've heard about is
the body control and the ability to make the play
in the moment. That was body control and he was
way up. I mean, it was an impressive play and I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Sold another marking moment. We're going to jump ahead TI game.
Devin Lloyd interception and for Camp to kind of call
that as well, knowing what the Chiefs liked to do
when they're in the red zone. For Devin to be
able to stay there and follow the ball and get
an interception and run it back nine nine yards, I
get wind and looking at this, so it's just I
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know we've talked about Devin a ton, but even just
the defense being in the right place.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
At the right time. Well.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Lloyd talked in his postgame, and Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes
did as well. Lloyd said that his key was the
center looking back at him, and if he saw the
center turning his direction, he had to get back out
into that flat area and he made that key. And
Andy Reid said they know that that's the way that
the Jaguars play it and that they got We're called
poppers popping back out. I just was remarkable play for
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a linebacker John who everyone thought didn't have the situational awareness, right,
I mean the last couple of years. I remember the
game early in his career in Indianapolis where they just
turned him inside and out. It was remarkable to see
him execute that place so flawless.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Well, we talked a lot about Devin Lloyd, and you
know so on the play if you noticed Dwan Smooth's
seventy yards downfield blocking, and so is Josh eines Allen.
I love Dwan Smoot. I wasn't sure that he could
run that fast that far, but that speaks to the
effort and the all in nature of this team right now,
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which Devin mentioned on the podium as well. That return
probably ends around the twenty if those guys aren't downfield.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Let's jump ahead to that final drive. Trevor's throw to
BTJ for me was the highlight for him. I know
he scored the game winning touchdown, but this throw is
something we know he's capable of doing. But to have
it in that moment, and as we've talked about whether
it's inconsistency from Trevor Or Brian Thomas Junior for them
to have the faith that they have in each other
and to make that throw where that is the only
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spot you can put that football where Brian's gonna be
able to come down with it and get stay in bounds.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
And he hit it was an indefensible pass. There was
nothing that's great defense could do.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yeah, And as much as both of them have been
criticized this year, Trevor and Brian Thomas Junior, they're probably
three and two without two huge moment plays by them.
And what did we sit on this couch and harp
on all last year? Team couldn't make plays in big moments.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Ago, let's do it. We love it all right? And
the stumble bumble rouskie do fall?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
What have you stumble in the jungle?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I'm I'm waiting for more. I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It's coming to us. The internet is undefeated. They'll figure
it out. But this play is just all the range
of emotions. And that's you know, sometimes watching Trevor, you
get all the arrange of emotions going for.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
The Trevor Lawrence was down twice.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I like that, You know, if you look closely at this.
You see that Ezra Cleveland comes and cleans up a
hole for him. And also on the backside you had
George Carloftis who had gotten free, and Travis etn looks
and sees what's going on and then gets his body
just to slow down carl Loftus who might have chased
him down from behind. So there were some quiet heroes
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out there who didn't get their name called. But if
they don't do what they do in that instance when
everything's breaking down around them, he doesn't score.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah, it's all effort and it's all plays. What's that phrase?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Characters?
Speaker 6 (16:36):
What you do?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
And nobody's watching. They were all plays. If they hadn't
made them, nobody would have blamed them for not making them.
And you know, I guess if he gets tackled with
twenty four seconds there, they probably have time to get
up in dirt the ball and they're still running play,
so they were probably gonna be okay. But again, what
a big play in a big moment. And again one
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will be talking about as long as we do this.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
But what's amazing is you see the effort from Ezra,
from Travis, and then there's Chris Jones just walking his
way down the golden effort wasn't on right, all pro
future Hall of Famer, a guy who has three championship
rings and he's just sauntering to see the Jaguars want
it more than the Chiefs. Was gratified.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
It's been defining their five games this year. All effort,
physicality and belief and want to.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I want to was definitely there.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
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Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's a big win. Like I mean, obviously, it's a
good team. They've been a good team for a long time.
They're hard to beat. I mean they really are. They're
really good. Situationally, don't beat them. So you know, at
the end of the game, they're always in it. They
always seem to make the plays. And today you know,
they they went down and got some points there and
we had to go win it. So it was cool.
For us to go take it and have to go
win at the end, put together a good drive and
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it's just another step for our team. I think showing
up on a big stage does say something. You know,
it's a big game, big.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Game statement win.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I think it's fair to say at this point, I'm
just so pleased to see. I knew they'd play well
because I felt like going into this it's just a
different Jags kind of team. But to beat the Chiefs,
who always find a way even when they played badly,
that said something to me.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And I had someone from Kansas City tell me before
the game that these guys were wound up to come
in here because they had watched the Chargers lose and
they believed at that moment that the AFC West was
still theirs, and they had watched the Bills lose, and
they believed that their name was still written on the AFC.
So the Chiefs came out wild eyed, and you saw
it early. You know, they're used to playing these primetime,
big stage games, and they came out all fired up
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because they believed it was their opportunity to get within
a game and prove they were still the big dogs
in the AFC yeah, I have.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
A take on that, but a'll away for my hot take.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, why don't you do your hot take first, John.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Listen, one of two things was going to happen yesterday.
Either Trevor Lawrence was going to make the moment or
the moment was going to make him. That was a
stage game for him, a statement game, and it was
up and down and back and forth again. Penalties, the
turnover on the goal line, some bad throws mixed in
with some spectacular plays. But there at the end when
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he is on the ground, that was his opportunity to
remember because he'd have the five yard penalty that he
had gotten them the goal to go with seconds left
to play, and if he had fallen down and been touchdown,
you don't have to imagine too hard what the conversation
would be today. That was a moment that he either
used to make his own or would be used to
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make it for him. And Trevor Lawrence made the moment
last night and now has a completely different perspective national
spotlight about who he is as a quarterback, and I
hope he believes it.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, it's interesting. As you were talking, I was thinking
of the phrase in tennis they use the phrase on
his racket, meaning if it's on a player's racket, then
that player is either going to make an air or
he's going to hit a winner, and he's going to
decide the match and the other players playing defense on
him against Patrick Mahomes, when you look back on that game,
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Trevor sort of kept the game on his racket. He
was the one deciding that he wasn't scared of the moment.
He hears criticism and whatnot, and on the biggest play
of the game third and seven, where if it's an
incomplete pass, you're facing fourth and seven, he makes the
play to Ryan Thomas Junior that you know that was
a no fear play. He kept on his racket and
(20:46):
he won the match the way that.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
He would not be stopped. He fell on twice and
got up and kept going forward. There's that will to win.
I have wanted to see that level of grit from
him during a game, and I've seen moments, but I
hadn't seen it consistently. And you'd have to say that
from the point in the game that they went down
fourteen to nothing, there was a lot of that. The
way that he was running the ball was very much
(21:08):
an example of that. But at the end that get
up and step over step, I thought it was freaking
awesome and he made the moment.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
John, what's your hot take for us?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Well, it's this is what they are, and it's sort
of redundant because we've been saying that all year, but
you're in week five now, and by week five or
six in the NFL, a lot of the mysteries are gone.
A team is an identity, and they're a team that
fights and wins. And I thought what was most impressive
(21:42):
was they had led and been in control of all
their games, even Cincinnati, even San Francisco. They had trailed
for and it was a little over nine minutes. I
thought last night going in that they needed to run early,
established momentum, get set nothing, gets seven to three, get
fourteen three up, and then hold on. They didn't do that.
(22:05):
They got down against a team where every fiber of
their being could have been that's the Chiefs. Well it
was the Chiefs and fourteen seven, and then didn't always
get you know, didn't get right back in it. It
was a remarkably gutty performance that shows you that this team,
(22:26):
it's almost like in Men in Black when they hit
the thing, you forget the past. They don't remember what
happened before, and they don't identify with anything before. They
believe they're a team that goes win.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Did you see the stat on the Chiefs record with
Patrick Mahomes on the road and a fourteen point lead.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Probably they had won their last twenty two overall.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
This this morning they were twenty three and one. When
he has a fourteen point lead on the road.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
What I'll take the one.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I want to give some credit to some of the
rookie on this roster. We've talked a lot about, you know,
Trevor Laurre stepping up to the moment, Devin Lloyd. This
is a team now where if you're drafted, you're gonna
have an opportunity to play right right away. We saw
that play from Travis Hunter and that was something we
wanted to have a marquee moment for him. That catch
and also the shorter catch that Brian mentioned earlier, those
(23:20):
are marking moments and he was taking advantage of the
reps that were given to him.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
But I also want to give some shout outs to
some other people.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Jonah Manheim coming in cold off the bench and playing
as well as he did at center.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Is impressive to me.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Is there a late round kind of guy that you're
taking a flyer on, thinking, hey, maybe we can develop
him into something coming in in center after Hainesy went
out with injury, LeQuinn Allen and they're chip blocking Chris
Jones all night rayon lane on special teams.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
These are people that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Bacial Tutan who's like splitting carries with Etn at certain points.
These are players that you drafted and are putting in
positions to contribute to your team right away, and now
when they're in a primetime spotlight, they're ready to go.
This isn't something where you're throwing them out there and
they're panicking.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
They're playing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
They're a part of your team, and that's how you
win games at this point, when you have a full
rounded team of veterans and rookies.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That can contribute well.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
William Collins said on Tuesday that when they entered this
project of rebuilding of taking over the Jaguars, they were
going to play young players. And he told his coaching
staff and they talked to the personnel department that said,
get used to it. We're bringing guys in and We're
going to give them the chance to develop. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
It was a remarkable forms by Joan of Monheim in
the sense that he's the third guy now who has
come in and you haven't noticed that he's in on
the offensive line. And I looked down and I saw
a zero first and I was like, oh, did they
move van Land into center? And it was just sort
of the veteran instinct in me. They say, well, they
must be putting somebody with some extent. But as there
(24:52):
it was back all off season. All I've heard is
now Monheim is going to play if Hainesy's out. Credit
to him. One day he will start at center for
this team. Maybe not this year, next year, whatever because
the Hainesy, but he's going to be a long term Yeah,
long term guy.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And quite a moment for a debut as well. Big win.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
We'll talk a little bit more about what's coming up
the rest of the week after the break. Jag fans,
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Speaker 8 (25:40):
Talk about resilience, down fourteen to nothing, come back, one
plan a time.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
How about Den Let's think about all three phases made
a huge him packed in that ball day, all three phases.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Guys, not much we do. It's truly the most pretty
thing in the world. But guess what, man, guess what,
Guess what? Right, winning feels good.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Winning feels good.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I just love a Liam Cohen victory speech because he
just how about Devin f and Lloyd Like, yeah, exactly,
how about him?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, It's just it's so relatable.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean, we talked about up and down about Liam
coe It just feels like the right fit.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
There's an energy in that room. You can't deny it.
He brought it.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
I said before. He's been a remarkable fit and I
think he's going to be the coach here and a
successful coach in the NFL for a long time.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
All right, short week, Now, we've got to prepare for
the Seahawks before the London trip the following week. What's
the focus got to be to kind of, yes, ride
this wind, but also not overlook your next opponent.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
It's got to be all they're really good football team.
They're very close to being four and one, just like
the Jaguars are. They had some injuries last week, but
you know, Sam Darnold led five straight touchdown drives in
the second half to make that a game last week.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Well, they might be the best team they've played so
far and not maybe not by miles, but Seattle is
one of those teams that you really don't pay much
attention to over here because they're out west. They don't
necessarily have a superstar that gets them, you know, you know,
national recognition all the time. Yet every year they win
and they compete, and this year they look like it's
(27:40):
very much like a favor in their division. And I
think he's the toughest matchup so far the season.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
They also think they have a defense that is going
to be worthy of its own name, kind of like
the Legion of Boom. They have a very talented group
up front. It's a great mixture of high round draft
choices and guys they've developed, and the secondary is very talented.
They played without some of those guys last week. Devin Witherspoon,
their stark owner didn't go. Julian Love, the safety didn't
go either, but it's an excellent team. Now they're coming
(28:05):
here to play, probably on a hot Sunday at a
ten o'clock start. You got to take advantage of this
opportunity while you've got it.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That game's presented by Florida Blue. Get your tickets for it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
We're not going to be at home for a while
home game in London, but it won't be in Jacksonville
for a while, so you definitely want to come and
check that out on Sunday. Stay with us here on
Jagsam tomorrow we'll look ahead to that matchup
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