October 13, 2025 • 25 mins
Kainani Stevens, John Oesher and Brian Sexton discuss the 20-12 loss to the Seattle Seahawks in Week 6 and look ahead to the matchup against the Rams in London. This and more on Jags A.M.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Seven.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Here Bran Sexton and John Oger as we go over
Sunday game against the Seahawks. Jaguars couldn't quite pull it out.
A tough day all around. Let's go over our big
things for you today, brought to you by g EH
Government Employees Health Association. Big thing number one is it
was a big play day. Explosives we saw from the
Seahawks and also a ton from the Seahawks pass rush.
William Cohen talked a little bit about what the other
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team did well.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It just felt weird. They hit enough explosives and we
did it. That's the reality is. We didn't get after
their quarterback. They got after ours. They hit a couple
big plays in the past game and we did not.
So I don't think either team probably ran it as
well as we've been, you know, running the football. We
did come out with a mindset of us want to
throw the ball, but we've got to get after their
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quarterback more as they got after ours.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Brian, We've been talking for a couple of weeks hoping
to see the explosives for the Jaguars offense. We saw
it with the Seahawks offense yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, Listen, I thought from the Jaguars offensive perspective, they
would be able to grab those explosives. Devin Witherspoon, they're
all pro corner, didn't play. Julian Love, one of the
better safeties in the NFC, didn't play. They were down
in total three starters in the secondary, and you felt
like the Jaguars offensive line, which had allowed only seven
sacks all season, would hold up well enough for Trevor
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Lawrence to be able to make some plays down the field.
They didn't, and obviously the Jaguars didn't get open down
the field nearly enough to help their quarterback. It was
a frustrating day because some of the things that you
thought you knew about this team didn't come to pass.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, frustrating is the right war.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I mean, the Jaguars knew they were gonna have to throw,
they wanted to throw, and they did have time to throw,
and then when they did have time to throw, there
weren't guys.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Open or there are a couple of misses.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
So look, this game is not a tragedy, but it
does show some things that have to be addressed moving
forward as a bad matchup form in retrospect. And they
still almost had a chance at the end, but yeah,
it was. It was a frustrating debt.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, not to move too far ahead, but I mean, John,
you have to get these matchups fixed because the Rams
are I think better than this team. They're better pass rushers.
They're going to create more problems for your quarterback. That's
the part. Going to London makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
This week. You got to spend some time focused and
tighten it down.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Some other self inflicted wounds we saw yesterday are big thing.
Number two penalty problem. We've been seeing penalties been an
issue recurring different weeks, and it definitely was yesterday. Trevor
Lawrence talked a little bit about ownership and each individual
player taking ownership of their mistakes.
Speaker 8 (02:52):
Everyone taken ownership of their part of it. Look at
today and say what if what can I do to
improve this? How can I help you guy next to
me or yourself or whatever. I think it's more just
focusing on what you can do as an individual, and
I think that's where some of the things might be
more of just like a lapse and focus at a
certain time that are little penalties like the.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
Off sides or whatever it is.
Speaker 8 (03:14):
It's just you know that consistent focus throughout the game
to where these things don't show up.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
John, once again, we're in double digit penalties for this team.
At first we thought maybe getting used to the offense
now but still having some of the same issues.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yeah, they talked afterward about the penalties taking away big plays,
and that didn't hurt them, I think quite as much
as they thought in the aftermath. It took away the
Brian Thomas junior touchdown, but they got to touchdown that drive.
But I thought, in looking back at it, where it
really hurt Brian was it seemed like every drive you
were second and thirteen and second and fifteen, and every
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penalty created at least a ten yard situation against a
pass rush, and when you weren't running the ball anyway.
I just felt like those penalties made it so every
time you dropped back the Seahawks were in third and
go get.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Them, you played right into their hands.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It seems as if the penalties were really poorly timed.
And again I'm not talking about the Brian Thomas Travis Hunter,
how about Hunter longs holding penalty on a first down.
I mean, they were just there were enough of them
that made you say, are you are you gonna get
this thing tightened down today?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
What were there twelve flags thrown against the Jaguars? Ten
of them were accepted.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
How about you get a good return out to the
thirty three yard line and then Rayon Lane gets hit
with a personal foul.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
And you go back to the eighteen.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I mean, just they just never were able to help themselves.
I think that's the message that I left the stadium with,
is this team couldn't help itself.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
It just kept hurting itself all day.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Final big thing today to be six seven. We talked
a little bit about the O line problems, but how
about this. Heading into the game, Trevor Lawrence had been
sacked six times and he got sacked seven times in
the singular game against the Seahawks, Brian, do we have
an offense line problem? Obviously, center Robert Hainsey was injured,
he was not in. Joona Monheim was in. But we've
seen changes elsewhere on the line. Is it just that
or the Seahawks that good?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well, listen, I think Seattle's very good. But DeMarcus Lawrence
is thirty three years old and he had two and
a half sacks his first two and a half of
the year.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
That's a Jaguars problem.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Not having Hainsey probably kept some things from being settled
before the snap of the ball. A good center gets
everyone lined up and sees everything in front of him,
and not having Breton Strange, who's a big part of
what they do up front. Also, those two things hurt
them without a doubt. But the Jaguars should be better
than that. We just talked about how they're behind the
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chains a lot, and that played right into the Seattle Seahawks' hands.
Buckle up because Jared Versu and Bryce Young are going
to be coming off the end this week. Brian Young
rather in London, and it's not going to get any easier.
They better figure some things out this week.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Yeah, I hope if in London you can run a
little better and offset some of that. But look, I
don't want to overreact, because there's always a tendency after
a game to forget that it's one to seventeen and
they have been a good offensive line that what happened
yesterday doesn't negate any of that. But you also do
not want to ignore and think, oh, we're going to
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be fine.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
It wasn't just seven sacks.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
It was seeming somebody counted twenty five pressures that didn't
feel off.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
I mean seventeen quarterback hits.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yeah, so it's again they've played too well coming in
to say that there has to be major wholesale changes.
But this can't be what this team is or else.
Obviously they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Definitely some stuff to look at. Stay with the cerro
on JAGXAM coming up after the break. We'll look at
the tape from yesterday's game.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We come out, we don't really do much offense early on,
we score and miss the extra points. So it's like
those deflating moments. I think that's probably the theme of
today was positive, then something negative would occur and kind
of take the wind out of our sales. You know,
I thought it was a very honest locker room in
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there in terms of understanding guys that we will not
beat good quality teams like this. Whether you're home on
the road in London on the West Coast doesn't matter.
If we continue to hurt ourselves and have these self
inflicted wounds, that ultimately is not me.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I always trusted I'm calling to be honest and give
you an honest review of what he thinks about the situation.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I just he's terrific, and I hope that people can
understand to have a coach like that who is so
transparent with you.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
They don't.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
He plays no games at the podium, which is different
from a lot of football coaches.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
I really like him.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yeah, And beyond that part of it, he also very
honestly assesses and doesn't let the team sort of make excuse.
I mean, he sees the game for what it is,
and I've been around coaches who sort of see the
game through different lenses. He seems to see it through
a very honest lens, and he gives you a chance to,
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I think, for the team and the coaches to know
what's going on and fix it more realistically than if
you're not seeing it through that lens.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
The other thing kay is if people have not seen
his post game locker room, he's so calm and composed.
He doesn't let the emotion overwhelm him sit in the
locker room, and he doesn't let the emotion speak in
front of the media. He's the right guy to lead
this team through this difficult week.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yes, and sometimes that's hard to do right after a game.
I think we all can admit we get a little
emotional at times, so good to see that from your head, coach.
Let's take a look at some of the highlights. Things
are a really frustrating early, not a lot of offense on
either side to get things going. But we did see
BTJ get involved a little bit earlier in this game,
which was nice to see. And also Travis Hunter get
involved in the passing game. So let's take a look
at this because we've been talking for weeks. Obviously wanted
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to get Brian Tooms Junior. He had I think eight
catches for ninety yards on the day, and obviously this
was a decent drive where they set some things up.
We love to see Travis Hunter juken out defenders, always enjoyable.
And then Brent Times Junior getting his first receiving touchdown
of the season. He got that run play touchdown earlier
on in the year, but finally feels like he's getting
going a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Listen, you have to keep going back to him, and
I know people are looking at the numbers with Travis
Hunter today and.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Saying, how do you get the ball to him more?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
The jag Wars passing attack, John feels like it will
go through these two guys, and if the quarterback is
going to have a really good season, he's going to
have to have a really good relationship with twelve and seven.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
I thought Brian Thomas Junior in the last couple of
weeks has taken some real steps to getting back to
where he was. I thought there were a couple yesterday
that he would probably like to have back as well.
But the steps are going in the right direction. And look,
the challenge in this is getting Travis Hunter the ball
in situations where he can do what he did.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
What he did on that one play was spectacular.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
You need that four or five times to have it
feel like a functioning part of the offense rather than
an outlier. Right now, Travis's still feel like outliers and
I think the coaching staff would love to get that more. Okay,
we've got four or five foundation pieces that we do well.
I think you need to get him in a situation
where he's more of a foundation piece.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
To take a look at Jaxon Smith and Jigba's touchdown,
because I was very unwarm welcome. I think I wrote
for you, John to the new cornerback, Greg Newsom, junior.
I think his first play into the game at this point,
and I don't know what the defense was doing. I
don't know if he thought he had some safety help.
And I know there's a miscommunication. Obviously he went about one
and a half practices, so I'm going to assume maybe
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you need to know where you need to be on what.
But this is one of the explosives we talked about
them connecting on and well, one play, one touchdown that
hurts you.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
It's sometimes in this league it's about who has the
best players. And the Seahggs had the best wide receiver
in the game yesterday and no college I mean not
a not going to be TJ.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
But this kid right now is one of the best.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Two or three receivers and he you know, I'm going
to assume that Greg k Newsom Junior is better than
that one played death Knight of career make. But that
was in a twenty twelve game when everything felt difficult.
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As Liam said, exposes made the difference. It was probably
the play of the game. I mean set up.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, it looked like he stumbled a bit. He was
there and then stumbled and I don't know why. I
don't know maybe he was thinking do he was supposed
to be detail me.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It looked like he was generally so following him and
then kind of looked to see if he had help
with the safety and then that's where the step came in.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's not surprising that a guy would make a mistake
when he was here for a practice and half.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
As you mentioned, Yeah, but something to keep an eye
on going forward. Now another thing maybe to keep an
eye on going forward. Kim Little missed an extra point yesterday,
misses this field goal and at it's a lot of
decisions going down later in the game when you decide
to go for two point conversion. Like we talk about
special teams, but small special team's mistakes can lead to
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bigger problems pre you team.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Well, that game early yesterday was very similar to the
Texans game where you know, some games in this in
the NFL now are momentum games would be side in
the second half.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
This was one where every drive mattered.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I thought a huge play early was when they got
out of their own goal line early with the Rayon
lane play where he changed field position. It felt like
a game where those kind of plays were going to matter.
In those kind of games you give away four points.
The difference between trailing by seven and three at halftime,
it was mammoth. And I am a little worried about
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Cambe Little because he's missed a couple in the last
couple of weeks. And I think he would tell you
fifty yard field goals in this league. Now you gotta
make him so. I think he's gonna be fine, but
he's got to show he's fine.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
They got to give special teams scenario we haven't focused
on because there's been enough other issues. But Logan Cook,
you know, he had a beautiful punt the one that
Rayon Lane you just mentioned, and he had one late
in the ball game that pinned the Seahawks at their
own seven.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
But you know, when he's punting the.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Ball from around the forty yard line on his side
of midfield, you expect that pooch punt to go down
inside the ten yard line. That's why he's a Pro
Bowl punter. He's missed several of those in recent weeks.
We heard earlier the head coach talked about the ups
and the downs, and the ups and the downs special
teams last year was that stable force for this football team,
that one thing you could count on. They have not
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been through the first couple of weeks of the season.
You have got to get that part of the game,
that phase of the game back to playing consistently because
those are good players that you need to make big plays.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, they were big time and against Kansas City. I
don't want to sell him short because they've had some moments, Brian,
but the mysted kit, yeah, I mean it's the special
assistance have had their moments they like back.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Take a look at this Cooper cuts Cooper Cup touchdown.
He had a big catch to gain get a first
down earlier on in the drive and the defense. I
know there's some secondary changes, but it felt a little
disjointed at times. And maybe that's because they didn't have
a takeaway. But even here, Jordan Lewis doesn't get hit
his head around, which we never see from him. So
it just I credit to the Seahawks offense for setting
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some good plays up. But that's tough.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
This is the first drive of the third quarter and
it just felt like they came out of the locker
room on their heels.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Now what you want to see for.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
It was a really really good throw in. Cooper Cup
is a very precise receiver. Jordan Lewis is a high
end player. I think he got beat by a high
end play here, but again a game of moments, and
the Seahawks made three or four big plays that the
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Jaguars couldn't match, and you know in in games like that,
that's what decides him.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Let's take a look at the second touchdown drive and
Trevor converting on a fourth down earlier in that possession,
because I was watching this kind of go down and
you're like, oh no, it kind of felt like one
of those I'm going to throw across the field and
intercepted pick six, but he connected Hunter long, So I
give credit where credit is due, because I wasn't quite
sure if that was going.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I tried to tell some people in the radio last
night and then this morning, you know, walking the dog
in my neighborhood.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
He didn't play as bad as people. What a point, right,
He didn't throw interceptions.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
He didn't fumble the ball, and then he makes that
throw where he's rolling to his right, and even that
one there where he's stepping up into the pocket. He's
capable of playing at a higher level and they're going
to need him. John to make these kinds of plays
on Sunday against the Rams and going forward. These are
the kind of plays where the quarterback elevates his team.
That's a big fourth down.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I thought there was a little in the postgame criticism
of Trevor. I thought there was a little preconception, if
you will, of people assuming, oh, he's playing bad. You know,
I haven't really had a chance to look and see
what was opened downfield, and some of the hold the
ball plays. Sometimes when a quarterback holds the ball, fans
get mad at him, and if he had thrown the ball,
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it's a pick and then they get really mad. So
the numbers and the moments suggest that he was okay.
I think what people are waiting for and we haven't
seen yet is the lift the team in the passing
game moment that we just haven't seen and.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I'm waiting. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well, that fourth down throw back across the field, dangerous
as it may be, felt like it was the cusp
of some of those When you pay a guy and
here's your franchise quarterback, it's fair to expect him to
make those kinds of plays.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
They're going to need him.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh, there's lots of expectations and they are definitely going
to need them. Stay with us. We'll give you our
hot takes here on jagxam after the break jagxam and
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Speaker 1 (17:00):
That's our lifeblood. I mean, we need turnovers. We need
turnovers to win games. And I honestly feel like we
could have got a few turnovers and you know, get
the football back to the offense and you know advantageous
you know positions. But that didn't happen. But like I said,
guys fought, we fought back. It's just wasn't good enough.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Jeoran Lewis one of your captains talking about not getting
any takeaways for the first game this season against the Seahawks,
and I'm going to go first day with my hot
take as it kind of leads right into that. So
mine was I feel a strength was masking up some
of the weaknesses on defense. Now by no means so
I think this is a weak defense, But I think
when you get takeaways that can erase a lot of
other issues that may be sprouting up at times on defense.
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If they're allowing big players, but then you get a takeaway,
doesn't really matter like when the Chiefs are knocking on
the door about to score, but Devin Lloyd takes it
back nine nine yards the other way, you don't notice
as much about what was allowed on the drive. So
I think for the defense, just focusing in on that communication,
especially now on the back end with some new players
out there in terms of the secondary, is important for
them week. Also, we didn't see Devin Lloyd was on
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and off the field during that game. We saw his
presence was missed out there. So just increasing that communication,
getting better upfront as well, getting more pressure against the quarterback.
I know Treyvon Walker's out there with a club, but
not let yes hang your hat on takeaways. That is
always excellent to have, but kind of getting down to
the fundamentals again, I think is important and I think you.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Could expand that to include the offense too. When the
defense grabs fourteen takeaways in five games, it overcomes a
lot of offensive mistakes, and we certainly saw that the
takeaways we're a huge factor. You better get some this
week because the Rams are an excellent football team.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah, I think what bodes well in this conversation is
the fact that they stopped the run, so they're continuing
to have that as a strength, and you've got to
have that defensively. Williams said it after the game. You
have to pressure the quarterback on the opposing team usually
over seventeen games, if you're not pressuring the quarterback consistently,
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you're not going to get a league leading level of takeaways.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Our John, let's get your hot take force today.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You know, time to tighten up. And it feels sort
of obvious.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
It's probably been a theme of the show, but they've
sort of been talking about it all year. There was
an urgency when Liam talked about it. But the ten penalties,
a couple of key drops, four points left on the
field with a kicker. This is a one score, small
points league, and when you give away five, six, seven points,
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the other team doesn't want to give those back and
they didn't.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
So get right.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
So that's you got to tighten it up. And it's
been a theme what since March Liam's he feels like
a broken record on that one, and I'm not going
to you know, I'm sure he feels like a broken record.
You can't beat good teams given away situations.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Well, if we go back to the preseason, they had
a poor outing on the practice field and in a game,
and the very next day he just kept hammering away.
They lined up, they practiced lining up. You don't have
a lot of time to do that kind of stuff
at this time of the year. But he stood at
the podium yesterday John and said.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
This is on me.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Oh, I got the distinctive impression that he's going to
fix it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
If it's gone on me, we'll ask you fix Rian.
What's your hot take for us?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
All right, so I'm going not ready for primetime obviously,
John and Ky they won the primetime game against Kansas City,
but the way they came out yesterday felt like there
was some hangover. Maybe it was the short week, Maybe
they couldn't handle the prosperity. You know, Liam talks all
the time about handling adversity, but this team has struggled
at times.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
To handle the prosperity when it comes its way.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
And look, you've got a primetime game essentially coming up
Sunday at Wembley, because you're the only game in that
nine to thirty am spot.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
So follow me here. That was a primetime game yesterday.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
You had something to prove that you could handle playing
on Monday and beating a good team, and then beating
a good team at home on sun Day and go
to London, and they just they weren't ready for yesterday.
And I watched practice lunch. We get it looked like
they had good on practice field, right, it looked. Don't
how the meeting rooms went, but they weren't ready when
the game started. You know, the quarterback comes out and
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makes the same kind of silly mistake first and ten
and he takes a two yard sack. Again it's not huge,
but throw the ball away. Don't give up two yards
because two or four or five they all kind of
add up. So it just they got off to a
bad start. It felt like they couldn't handle the prosperity.
You got primetime Sunday against the La Rams. Better be
ready this week.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, there are.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
There are tricky parts of every NFL schedule, and yesterday
was a tricky part that really really good teams. I
said before the game, if they win this game, effect,
they're really good, because that was a difficult six days
after London next, nobody thinks about the Seahawks except for
the fact that they always beat people. So that felt
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to me like they'd come out and beat a good
veteran team, and I felt like, Okay, there a team
that can navigate this. They're not a team that can
navigate that yet.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
If you go and beat the Rams, right, and that's
a tall order, But if you go beat the Rams,
will you will you be.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Able to say they were a good team.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I think they're good.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
I mean, I'm sorry, but we think the.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Rams are a good team. I think the day Wars
are good.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
There's a difference between good and a team that can
go reel off twelve and get into situations where they're
in good shape for the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
I don't think they're twelve win team.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
I didn't ask that the right way.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
You were talking about how if you come off Kansas
City and beat Seattle you would put them in a
maybe an upper restaurant from where they might sit in
your mind today. If you come off the loss to
Seattle and you go and beat the Rams in Wembley,
does it put them up there or does it just
solidify that they're Okay?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I think they're a ten win team, and so uh,
it'd be better than losing.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Be a nicer flight home, for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Winning better than losing.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Way you get down. We should write down in the
studio here somewhere say us.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
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Speaker 3 (23:15):
And make sure we're in alignment with being on the
point precision operation in all three phases. That's what I'm
asking and that's where we got to go.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Take the next deck, guys, because that.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Is what's holding us back.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
We have got by and we've won some of these
games because of this.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Right a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
We made a lot of great places, but because we
got hard, because we played but in times where you
got to go execute and not hurt ourselves.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Man, that showed up to you.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That's just the reality.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
That's the reality.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It's Jaguars locker room post a loss of Seattle Seahawks.
We saw them do this after the Bengals game as well,
some really cool access. We always kind of hear from
them after the win, but now we're hearing from them
after the lawsuits too.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
You know Kai the thirty one years of doing this,
I don't remember. First of all, not every coach would
let us come in after a win. Let want a
loss and John, I mean, cameras are sure, they're everywhere now,
so maybe people take for granted to just see things
on video. But that's remarkable that he would let you
in in a very private, frustrating moment to hear what
he's saying to his football team. It may become commonplace
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in years to come with younger coaches who were used
to it, but for right now, you're right guy.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
It's incredible access.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah, and that being said to say yes, you're right.
And I think it does show people who are watching
this and the hardcore people watching this that what he's
saying publicly publicly is real. So far, they've won because
of heart, and the execution has to get better. It's
shows some insight into how he coaches. So what we
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referenced earlier, there's no bs and no frills, right, it's
this is what we get to do and here's our expectation.
We all got to go do it. And so yeah,
it's impressive. He's impressive and I feel good about it
going forward, all right, here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
We're heading to London. As we mentioned, the team's packing
up going to head out on Monday. We will be
back here on jagsam on a Wednesday and Thursday, but
we'll be coming to you from the Grove, the resort
we stay at in London for the game as the
Jaguars get prepared to take on the Rams. So we
will see you later this week from London with Jagsam.
Seven.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Here Bran Sexton and John Oger as we go over
Sunday game against the Seahawks. Jaguars couldn't quite pull it out.
A tough day all around. Let's go over our big
things for you today, brought to you by g EH
Government Employees Health Association. Big thing number one is it
was a big play day. Explosives we saw from the
Seahawks and also a ton from the Seahawks pass rush.
William Cohen talked a little bit about what the other
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team did well.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It just felt weird. They hit enough explosives and we
did it. That's the reality is. We didn't get after
their quarterback. They got after ours. They hit a couple
big plays in the past game and we did not.
So I don't think either team probably ran it as
well as we've been, you know, running the football. We
did come out with a mindset of us want to
throw the ball, but we've got to get after their
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quarterback more as they got after ours.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Brian, We've been talking for a couple of weeks hoping
to see the explosives for the Jaguars offense. We saw
it with the Seahawks offense yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, Listen, I thought from the Jaguars offensive perspective, they
would be able to grab those explosives. Devin Witherspoon, they're
all pro corner, didn't play. Julian Love, one of the
better safeties in the NFC, didn't play. They were down
in total three starters in the secondary, and you felt
like the Jaguars offensive line, which had allowed only seven
sacks all season, would hold up well enough for Trevor
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Lawrence to be able to make some plays down the field.
They didn't, and obviously the Jaguars didn't get open down
the field nearly enough to help their quarterback. It was
a frustrating day because some of the things that you
thought you knew about this team didn't come to pass.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, frustrating is the right war.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
I mean, the Jaguars knew they were gonna have to throw,
they wanted to throw, and they did have time to throw,
and then when they did have time to throw, there
weren't guys.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Open or there are a couple of misses.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
So look, this game is not a tragedy, but it
does show some things that have to be addressed moving
forward as a bad matchup form in retrospect. And they
still almost had a chance at the end, but yeah,
it was. It was a frustrating debt.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, not to move too far ahead, but I mean, John,
you have to get these matchups fixed because the Rams
are I think better than this team. They're better pass rushers.
They're going to create more problems for your quarterback. That's
the part. Going to London makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
This week. You got to spend some time focused and
tighten it down.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Some other self inflicted wounds we saw yesterday are big thing.
Number two penalty problem. We've been seeing penalties been an
issue recurring different weeks, and it definitely was yesterday. Trevor
Lawrence talked a little bit about ownership and each individual
player taking ownership of their mistakes.
Speaker 8 (02:52):
Everyone taken ownership of their part of it. Look at
today and say what if what can I do to
improve this? How can I help you guy next to
me or yourself or whatever. I think it's more just
focusing on what you can do as an individual, and
I think that's where some of the things might be
more of just like a lapse and focus at a
certain time that are little penalties like the.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
Off sides or whatever it is.
Speaker 8 (03:14):
It's just you know that consistent focus throughout the game
to where these things don't show up.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
John, once again, we're in double digit penalties for this team.
At first we thought maybe getting used to the offense
now but still having some of the same issues.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yeah, they talked afterward about the penalties taking away big plays,
and that didn't hurt them, I think quite as much
as they thought in the aftermath. It took away the
Brian Thomas junior touchdown, but they got to touchdown that drive.
But I thought, in looking back at it, where it
really hurt Brian was it seemed like every drive you
were second and thirteen and second and fifteen, and every
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penalty created at least a ten yard situation against a
pass rush, and when you weren't running the ball anyway.
I just felt like those penalties made it so every
time you dropped back the Seahawks were in third and
go get.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Them, you played right into their hands.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It seems as if the penalties were really poorly timed.
And again I'm not talking about the Brian Thomas Travis Hunter,
how about Hunter longs holding penalty on a first down.
I mean, they were just there were enough of them
that made you say, are you are you gonna get
this thing tightened down today?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
What were there twelve flags thrown against the Jaguars? Ten
of them were accepted.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
How about you get a good return out to the
thirty three yard line and then Rayon Lane gets hit
with a personal foul.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
And you go back to the eighteen.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I mean, just they just never were able to help themselves.
I think that's the message that I left the stadium with,
is this team couldn't help itself.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
It just kept hurting itself all day.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Final big thing today to be six seven. We talked
a little bit about the O line problems, but how
about this. Heading into the game, Trevor Lawrence had been
sacked six times and he got sacked seven times in
the singular game against the Seahawks, Brian, do we have
an offense line problem? Obviously, center Robert Hainsey was injured,
he was not in. Joona Monheim was in. But we've
seen changes elsewhere on the line. Is it just that
or the Seahawks that good?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well, listen, I think Seattle's very good. But DeMarcus Lawrence
is thirty three years old and he had two and
a half sacks his first two and a half of
the year.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
That's a Jaguars problem.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Not having Hainsey probably kept some things from being settled
before the snap of the ball. A good center gets
everyone lined up and sees everything in front of him,
and not having Breton Strange, who's a big part of
what they do up front. Also, those two things hurt
them without a doubt. But the Jaguars should be better
than that. We just talked about how they're behind the
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chains a lot, and that played right into the Seattle Seahawks' hands.
Buckle up because Jared Versu and Bryce Young are going
to be coming off the end this week. Brian Young
rather in London, and it's not going to get any easier.
They better figure some things out this week.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Yeah, I hope if in London you can run a
little better and offset some of that. But look, I
don't want to overreact, because there's always a tendency after
a game to forget that it's one to seventeen and
they have been a good offensive line that what happened
yesterday doesn't negate any of that. But you also do
not want to ignore and think, oh, we're going to
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be fine.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
It wasn't just seven sacks.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
It was seeming somebody counted twenty five pressures that didn't
feel off.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
I mean seventeen quarterback hits.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yeah, so it's again they've played too well coming in
to say that there has to be major wholesale changes.
But this can't be what this team is or else.
Obviously they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Definitely some stuff to look at. Stay with the cerro
on JAGXAM coming up after the break. We'll look at
the tape from yesterday's game.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We come out, we don't really do much offense early on,
we score and miss the extra points. So it's like
those deflating moments. I think that's probably the theme of
today was positive, then something negative would occur and kind
of take the wind out of our sales. You know,
I thought it was a very honest locker room in
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there in terms of understanding guys that we will not
beat good quality teams like this. Whether you're home on
the road in London on the West Coast doesn't matter.
If we continue to hurt ourselves and have these self
inflicted wounds, that ultimately is not me.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I always trusted I'm calling to be honest and give
you an honest review of what he thinks about the situation.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I just he's terrific, and I hope that people can
understand to have a coach like that who is so
transparent with you.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
They don't.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
He plays no games at the podium, which is different
from a lot of football coaches.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
I really like him.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yeah, And beyond that part of it, he also very
honestly assesses and doesn't let the team sort of make excuse.
I mean, he sees the game for what it is,
and I've been around coaches who sort of see the
game through different lenses. He seems to see it through
a very honest lens, and he gives you a chance to,
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I think, for the team and the coaches to know
what's going on and fix it more realistically than if
you're not seeing it through that lens.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
The other thing kay is if people have not seen
his post game locker room, he's so calm and composed.
He doesn't let the emotion overwhelm him sit in the
locker room, and he doesn't let the emotion speak in
front of the media. He's the right guy to lead
this team through this difficult week.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yes, and sometimes that's hard to do right after a game.
I think we all can admit we get a little
emotional at times, so good to see that from your head, coach.
Let's take a look at some of the highlights. Things
are a really frustrating early, not a lot of offense on
either side to get things going. But we did see
BTJ get involved a little bit earlier in this game,
which was nice to see. And also Travis Hunter get
involved in the passing game. So let's take a look
at this because we've been talking for weeks. Obviously wanted
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to get Brian Tooms Junior. He had I think eight
catches for ninety yards on the day, and obviously this
was a decent drive where they set some things up.
We love to see Travis Hunter juken out defenders, always enjoyable.
And then Brent Times Junior getting his first receiving touchdown
of the season. He got that run play touchdown earlier
on in the year, but finally feels like he's getting
going a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Listen, you have to keep going back to him, and
I know people are looking at the numbers with Travis
Hunter today and.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Saying, how do you get the ball to him more?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
The jag Wars passing attack, John feels like it will
go through these two guys, and if the quarterback is
going to have a really good season, he's going to
have to have a really good relationship with twelve and seven.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
I thought Brian Thomas Junior in the last couple of
weeks has taken some real steps to getting back to
where he was. I thought there were a couple yesterday
that he would probably like to have back as well.
But the steps are going in the right direction. And look,
the challenge in this is getting Travis Hunter the ball
in situations where he can do what he did.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
What he did on that one play was spectacular.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
You need that four or five times to have it
feel like a functioning part of the offense rather than
an outlier. Right now, Travis's still feel like outliers and
I think the coaching staff would love to get that more. Okay,
we've got four or five foundation pieces that we do well.
I think you need to get him in a situation
where he's more of a foundation piece.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
To take a look at Jaxon Smith and Jigba's touchdown,
because I was very unwarm welcome. I think I wrote
for you, John to the new cornerback, Greg Newsom, junior.
I think his first play into the game at this point,
and I don't know what the defense was doing. I
don't know if he thought he had some safety help.
And I know there's a miscommunication. Obviously he went about one
and a half practices, so I'm going to assume maybe
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you need to know where you need to be on what.
But this is one of the explosives we talked about
them connecting on and well, one play, one touchdown that
hurts you.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
It's sometimes in this league it's about who has the
best players. And the Seahggs had the best wide receiver
in the game yesterday and no college I mean not
a not going to be TJ.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
But this kid right now is one of the best.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Two or three receivers and he you know, I'm going
to assume that Greg k Newsom Junior is better than
that one played death Knight of career make. But that
was in a twenty twelve game when everything felt difficult.
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As Liam said, exposes made the difference. It was probably
the play of the game. I mean set up.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, it looked like he stumbled a bit. He was
there and then stumbled and I don't know why. I
don't know maybe he was thinking do he was supposed
to be detail me.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It looked like he was generally so following him and
then kind of looked to see if he had help
with the safety and then that's where the step came in.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's not surprising that a guy would make a mistake
when he was here for a practice and half.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
As you mentioned, Yeah, but something to keep an eye
on going forward. Now another thing maybe to keep an
eye on going forward. Kim Little missed an extra point yesterday,
misses this field goal and at it's a lot of
decisions going down later in the game when you decide
to go for two point conversion. Like we talk about
special teams, but small special team's mistakes can lead to
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bigger problems pre you team.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Well, that game early yesterday was very similar to the
Texans game where you know, some games in this in
the NFL now are momentum games would be side in
the second half.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
This was one where every drive mattered.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I thought a huge play early was when they got
out of their own goal line early with the Rayon
lane play where he changed field position. It felt like
a game where those kind of plays were going to matter.
In those kind of games you give away four points.
The difference between trailing by seven and three at halftime,
it was mammoth. And I am a little worried about
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Cambe Little because he's missed a couple in the last
couple of weeks. And I think he would tell you
fifty yard field goals in this league. Now you gotta
make him so. I think he's gonna be fine, but
he's got to show he's fine.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
They got to give special teams scenario we haven't focused
on because there's been enough other issues. But Logan Cook,
you know, he had a beautiful punt the one that
Rayon Lane you just mentioned, and he had one late
in the ball game that pinned the Seahawks at their
own seven.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
But you know, when he's punting the.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Ball from around the forty yard line on his side
of midfield, you expect that pooch punt to go down
inside the ten yard line. That's why he's a Pro
Bowl punter. He's missed several of those in recent weeks.
We heard earlier the head coach talked about the ups
and the downs, and the ups and the downs special
teams last year was that stable force for this football team,
that one thing you could count on. They have not
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been through the first couple of weeks of the season.
You have got to get that part of the game,
that phase of the game back to playing consistently because
those are good players that you need to make big plays.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, they were big time and against Kansas City. I
don't want to sell him short because they've had some moments, Brian,
but the mysted kit, yeah, I mean it's the special
assistance have had their moments they like back.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Take a look at this Cooper cuts Cooper Cup touchdown.
He had a big catch to gain get a first
down earlier on in the drive and the defense. I
know there's some secondary changes, but it felt a little
disjointed at times. And maybe that's because they didn't have
a takeaway. But even here, Jordan Lewis doesn't get hit
his head around, which we never see from him. So
it just I credit to the Seahawks offense for setting
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some good plays up. But that's tough.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
This is the first drive of the third quarter and
it just felt like they came out of the locker
room on their heels.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Now what you want to see for.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
It was a really really good throw in. Cooper Cup
is a very precise receiver. Jordan Lewis is a high
end player. I think he got beat by a high
end play here, but again a game of moments, and
the Seahawks made three or four big plays that the
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Jaguars couldn't match, and you know in in games like that,
that's what decides him.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Let's take a look at the second touchdown drive and
Trevor converting on a fourth down earlier in that possession,
because I was watching this kind of go down and
you're like, oh no, it kind of felt like one
of those I'm going to throw across the field and
intercepted pick six, but he connected Hunter long, So I
give credit where credit is due, because I wasn't quite
sure if that was going.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I tried to tell some people in the radio last
night and then this morning, you know, walking the dog
in my neighborhood.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
He didn't play as bad as people. What a point, right,
He didn't throw interceptions.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
He didn't fumble the ball, and then he makes that
throw where he's rolling to his right, and even that
one there where he's stepping up into the pocket. He's
capable of playing at a higher level and they're going
to need him. John to make these kinds of plays
on Sunday against the Rams and going forward. These are
the kind of plays where the quarterback elevates his team.
That's a big fourth down.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I thought there was a little in the postgame criticism
of Trevor. I thought there was a little preconception, if
you will, of people assuming, oh, he's playing bad. You know,
I haven't really had a chance to look and see
what was opened downfield, and some of the hold the
ball plays. Sometimes when a quarterback holds the ball, fans
get mad at him, and if he had thrown the ball,
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it's a pick and then they get really mad. So
the numbers and the moments suggest that he was okay.
I think what people are waiting for and we haven't
seen yet is the lift the team in the passing
game moment that we just haven't seen and.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I'm waiting. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well, that fourth down throw back across the field, dangerous
as it may be, felt like it was the cusp
of some of those When you pay a guy and
here's your franchise quarterback, it's fair to expect him to
make those kinds of plays.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
They're going to need him.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh, there's lots of expectations and they are definitely going
to need them. Stay with us. We'll give you our
hot takes here on jagxam after the break jagxam and
Hot Takes Today brought to you by Firehouse Subs.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
That's our lifeblood. I mean, we need turnovers. We need
turnovers to win games. And I honestly feel like we
could have got a few turnovers and you know, get
the football back to the offense and you know advantageous
you know positions. But that didn't happen. But like I said,
guys fought, we fought back. It's just wasn't good enough.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Jeoran Lewis one of your captains talking about not getting
any takeaways for the first game this season against the Seahawks,
and I'm going to go first day with my hot
take as it kind of leads right into that. So
mine was I feel a strength was masking up some
of the weaknesses on defense. Now by no means so
I think this is a weak defense, But I think
when you get takeaways that can erase a lot of
other issues that may be sprouting up at times on defense.
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If they're allowing big players, but then you get a takeaway,
doesn't really matter like when the Chiefs are knocking on
the door about to score, but Devin Lloyd takes it
back nine nine yards the other way, you don't notice
as much about what was allowed on the drive. So
I think for the defense, just focusing in on that communication,
especially now on the back end with some new players
out there in terms of the secondary, is important for
them week. Also, we didn't see Devin Lloyd was on
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and off the field during that game. We saw his
presence was missed out there. So just increasing that communication,
getting better upfront as well, getting more pressure against the quarterback.
I know Treyvon Walker's out there with a club, but
not let yes hang your hat on takeaways. That is
always excellent to have, but kind of getting down to
the fundamentals again, I think is important and I think you.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Could expand that to include the offense too. When the
defense grabs fourteen takeaways in five games, it overcomes a
lot of offensive mistakes, and we certainly saw that the
takeaways we're a huge factor. You better get some this
week because the Rams are an excellent football team.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah, I think what bodes well in this conversation is
the fact that they stopped the run, so they're continuing
to have that as a strength, and you've got to
have that defensively. Williams said it after the game. You
have to pressure the quarterback on the opposing team usually
over seventeen games, if you're not pressuring the quarterback consistently,
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you're not going to get a league leading level of takeaways.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Our John, let's get your hot take force today.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You know, time to tighten up. And it feels sort
of obvious.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
It's probably been a theme of the show, but they've
sort of been talking about it all year. There was
an urgency when Liam talked about it. But the ten penalties,
a couple of key drops, four points left on the
field with a kicker. This is a one score, small
points league, and when you give away five, six, seven points,
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the other team doesn't want to give those back and
they didn't.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
So get right.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
So that's you got to tighten it up. And it's
been a theme what since March Liam's he feels like
a broken record on that one, and I'm not going
to you know, I'm sure he feels like a broken record.
You can't beat good teams given away situations.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Well, if we go back to the preseason, they had
a poor outing on the practice field and in a game,
and the very next day he just kept hammering away.
They lined up, they practiced lining up. You don't have
a lot of time to do that kind of stuff
at this time of the year. But he stood at
the podium yesterday John and said.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
This is on me.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Oh, I got the distinctive impression that he's going to
fix it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
If it's gone on me, we'll ask you fix Rian.
What's your hot take for us?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
All right, so I'm going not ready for primetime obviously,
John and Ky they won the primetime game against Kansas City,
but the way they came out yesterday felt like there
was some hangover. Maybe it was the short week, Maybe
they couldn't handle the prosperity. You know, Liam talks all
the time about handling adversity, but this team has struggled
at times.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
To handle the prosperity when it comes its way.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
And look, you've got a primetime game essentially coming up
Sunday at Wembley, because you're the only game in that
nine to thirty am spot.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
So follow me here. That was a primetime game yesterday.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
You had something to prove that you could handle playing
on Monday and beating a good team, and then beating
a good team at home on sun Day and go
to London, and they just they weren't ready for yesterday.
And I watched practice lunch. We get it looked like
they had good on practice field, right, it looked. Don't
how the meeting rooms went, but they weren't ready when
the game started. You know, the quarterback comes out and
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makes the same kind of silly mistake first and ten
and he takes a two yard sack. Again it's not huge,
but throw the ball away. Don't give up two yards
because two or four or five they all kind of
add up. So it just they got off to a
bad start. It felt like they couldn't handle the prosperity.
You got primetime Sunday against the La Rams. Better be
ready this week.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, there are.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
There are tricky parts of every NFL schedule, and yesterday
was a tricky part that really really good teams. I
said before the game, if they win this game, effect,
they're really good, because that was a difficult six days
after London next, nobody thinks about the Seahawks except for
the fact that they always beat people. So that felt
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to me like they'd come out and beat a good
veteran team, and I felt like, Okay, there a team
that can navigate this. They're not a team that can
navigate that yet.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
If you go and beat the Rams, right, and that's
a tall order, But if you go beat the Rams,
will you will you be.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Able to say they were a good team.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I think they're good.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
I mean, I'm sorry, but we think the.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Rams are a good team. I think the day Wars
are good.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
There's a difference between good and a team that can
go reel off twelve and get into situations where they're
in good shape for the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
I don't think they're twelve win team.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
I didn't ask that the right way.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
You were talking about how if you come off Kansas
City and beat Seattle you would put them in a
maybe an upper restaurant from where they might sit in
your mind today. If you come off the loss to
Seattle and you go and beat the Rams in Wembley,
does it put them up there or does it just
solidify that they're Okay?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I think they're a ten win team, and so uh,
it'd be better than losing.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Be a nicer flight home, for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Winning better than losing.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Way you get down. We should write down in the
studio here somewhere say us.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
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week because teams getting ready to travel to London, DAGs. Fans,
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Speaker 3 (23:15):
And make sure we're in alignment with being on the
point precision operation in all three phases. That's what I'm
asking and that's where we got to go.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Take the next deck, guys, because that.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Is what's holding us back.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
We have got by and we've won some of these
games because of this.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Right a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
We made a lot of great places, but because we
got hard, because we played but in times where you
got to go execute and not hurt ourselves.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Man, that showed up to you.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That's just the reality.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
That's the reality.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It's Jaguars locker room post a loss of Seattle Seahawks.
We saw them do this after the Bengals game as well,
some really cool access. We always kind of hear from
them after the win, but now we're hearing from them
after the lawsuits too.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
You know Kai the thirty one years of doing this,
I don't remember. First of all, not every coach would
let us come in after a win. Let want a
loss and John, I mean, cameras are sure, they're everywhere now,
so maybe people take for granted to just see things
on video. But that's remarkable that he would let you
in in a very private, frustrating moment to hear what
he's saying to his football team. It may become commonplace
(24:27):
in years to come with younger coaches who were used
to it, but for right now, you're right guy.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
It's incredible access.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah, and that being said to say yes, you're right.
And I think it does show people who are watching
this and the hardcore people watching this that what he's
saying publicly publicly is real. So far, they've won because
of heart, and the execution has to get better. It's
shows some insight into how he coaches. So what we
(24:54):
referenced earlier, there's no bs and no frills, right, it's
this is what we get to do and here's our expectation.
We all got to go do it. And so yeah,
it's impressive. He's impressive and I feel good about it
going forward, all right, here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
We're heading to London. As we mentioned, the team's packing
up going to head out on Monday. We will be
back here on jagsam on a Wednesday and Thursday, but
we'll be coming to you from the Grove, the resort
we stay at in London for the game as the
Jaguars get prepared to take on the Rams. So we
will see you later this week from London with Jagsam.
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