October 22, 2025 • 20 mins
Kainani Stevens, John Oehser and Brian Sexton are live on Wednesday of the Bye-Week and give their final thoughts on the team before the break and check in on our division rivals around the AFC South. All this and more on Jags A.M, presented by Jet Home Loans.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to jag Van this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Kind on a seat in Brian Sexton, John Osier Wigney today,
as we talk a little bit about the Jaguars heading
into the Spy Week, they're gonna have some time off
the recap regroup, try to go over some things after
two kind of frustrating losses two weeks in a row.
Let's start out with our big things today, brought to
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employees and retire Week. The big thing, number one is
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you got to get healthy. A lot of these issues
kind of started springing up when injuries took place. Trayvon
Walker dislocating his wrist, had to get surgery on that,
and of course Brenton Strange has been missing as he's
on IR now with a hip injury, and Brian I
don't know if at all be fixed after the break.
Obviously it'll take some time to work back, specifically for
Brenton's Strange, but they gotta get those two guys back.
I think those are two big missing pieces.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And the key with Trayvon is to not have that
full club and maybe have a brace or something where
he can actually use his fingers. When you go on IR,
you have to be going at least four games, so
Vegas would be the first opportunity that the Jaguars could
possibly bring him back to the active roster. But there's
other guys too. Eric Murray's got a neck that's been
bothering him now for a couple of weeks, and Robert
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Haines he had the hamstring and baseial tooton the shoulder.
There are just some guys who are banged up, so
hopefully these two weeks give them a chance to get
back on the field somewhere closer to one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, there's always guys that I'm covering a game and
there's the Jaguars players down. I can't see the number.
There's always a handful of guys you don't want on
that list. There's three for me this year, forty one,
eighty five and forty four, and two of those guys
have been hurt, So I do think that matters. It
can't be everything, but getting healthy I think will help
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this team, especially with Strange and Walker, be a more
physical team that they were in the first four games.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Definitely, always the folks of the bye week is to
get healthy big thing Number two is going to be overcorrect.
So while we're frustrated with the past couple of weeks performances,
it's important to remember the team is four and three.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
John. You don't want to overcorrect. You're still doing a
lot of things right.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's more about getting back to what they had been
doing right the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well, the buzz work earlier in the week was we
can't or the buzz words where we can't reinvent the wheel,
and they say that, and it's true, because you can't.
There's no time to do it, so there's no reason
to even try. Look, the things that they're doing are
not bad things, they're just not doing them well, meaning
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you know, pre snap avoidables, operation errors, those who have
been the key And frankly, they have to figure out
a way to go from seven sacks allowed to one
or two. I don't think they're a great offensive line, Brian,
in terms of being able to withstand.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Pressure if the scoreboards against them.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
But they got to figure out a way to not
be a seven sack team, and I think that's being
in better situations offensively.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Obviously, we've talked at length about the penalties you know, John,
the Vegas game the Sunday after the buye, it has
a bullsoun It's a very important game because the Jaguars
will not have won for almost two month since having
beaten Kansas City. They haven't played good football. You mentioned
the sacks. They've not gotten any sacks the last two games.
They got no takeaways either. They couldn't run the ball,
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they fell behind early, they made mental mistakes. So there's
a lot of things that have been working against them.
The Raiders don't appear to be a very good football
team this year. They get beat thirty one to nothing
in Kansas City last Sunday, but that doesn't mean they
won't be ready to play when the Jaguars roll in there.
And the Jaguars lost there last year. So there's a
lot riding on what the Jaguars get done this week
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and then their preparation next week as they get ready
to resume in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Our final big thing is road Warriors. You mentioned they're
going on the road when they get that bye week
to go to Las Vegas, but three out of four
games are going to be on the roads. They're on
the road in Vegas, they're on the road in Houston,
they come back and play the Chargers, and then they're
going on the road to.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Play the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So, Brian, I think the first part of the schedule
is probably the toughest when I looked at it, but
this kind of stretch was also a little bit daunting.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Listen, if they get back to playing good football, I
am firmly confident that they'll be able to succeed away
from Jacksonville. But you know, we just mentioned that Raiders game,
and then you got the Texans the week after and
the Jaguars. As we know, it's been a long time
since they've beaten the Texans in back to back weeks.
It's been sent our pardon me twice in the same season.
It's been since twenty seventeen since they have done that.
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So that's a huge game with a lot of implications,
and then you come home to get the Chargers before
those other road games. I mean, it's yes, you had
a stretch where you had the Niners and the Chiefs
and the Rams and the Seahawks, but it doesn't necessarily
start easier in the second half.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, they have to play well. If they play well,
they're fine on the road. They went to San Francisco
in one. They should have be Cincinnati up there. I
don't think this team has a road thing. I think
they have a not playing very well thing right now.
So the buy is at a perfect time, as they say,
so I don't worry about the location of those games
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after the buye. I worry about them getting back to
playing well.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
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Speaker 1 (05:47):
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Speaker 2 (05:48):
And it's bye week, So we're gonna look back and
we're fleshed a little bit about the first seven weeks
of what we've seen in Jaguars football so far this year.
So we're gonna do a pro con. We're gonna do
strength and a struggle. So, Brian, what's the strength and
the struggle you've seen from the team so far Gone.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Has instituted his brand of football right. They started four
in one. They won in San Francisco, where they had
never won before. They beat Kansas City on Monday Night Football.
They're playing a physical brand of football, which is exactly
what he promised when they hired him. Look, I mean
he hasn't turned it all the way around, because we
saw the game in London and that looked like some
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of the old Jaguars. But it's hard to be in
this building. It's hard to not see how he has
turned this thing in the direction that he wants to
take it. It may take him more than this year,
may take him into next year to get it where
he really wants it to be. But I think he's
been the highlight at this point. He really has brought
an energy and you can see that his team rallies
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around him, and he's a transparent guy. What he says
is we've seen in his postgame speeches that he allows
us to tape in the locker room. Win or lose
is the exact same thing that he says to the media.
So I think he's been hit. I think they've nailed
this one, and that's been the pro from the first
part of the season so far.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Hard to argue that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think just his transparency as a whole has been
really helpful this year.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Good and bad. Good.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So now he went the bat, Yes, well, what are
they gonna work on? What's an improvement?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
That's a better way to put it. The quarterback he's
played okay, right, he's been. He's not a top ten quarterback.
He's not a bottom ten quarterback either. He's right in
the middle average. But he hasn't played great. And he's
your franchise guy, and you need to get him from
good to great. And there's two or three plays in
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every game that you can go back and point to
and say, what was he thinking right there? The one
that I point out the most is Brenton's strange lined
up behind him on the goal line against Kansas City,
not to lift him over the top, right, He's supposed
to put a shoulder out and go. Instead he jumps up,
loses the ball on the goal line. There's just little
things like that that he has to clean up. John.
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This guy is he's supposed to be the franchise quarter back,
and I get it, guys drop balls. The running game
hasn't worked. Brighton Strange has been out, but if the
Jaguars are going to get this thing going in the
second half of the season, they need him to play,
to use a coaching term, a little bit more above
the x's and o's.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, and Liam talks about playing well in the gray,
and he hasn't always played well in the gray. Played
okay at times against Kansas City. He has lifted them
at times and situations, but he hasn't played well in
the gray.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I don't know if he will.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
He needs to, and I think it's it's a huge
in the last ten games. I agree with you his
ability to be above the x's and o's to make
instinctive things. At some point a quarterback has to do it,
and he hasn't done it enough.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That's become a little more institual for sure. John, what
is what's your strength? What have you seen from the well?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
You know this may be a little too vague for
the question, but the quality wins. I mean, yeah, they
beat Carolina, who's now four and three, They beat San Francisco,
and they beat yeah, Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I mean, if you picked teams.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
From conferences, the best three teams in the NFL the
last five year or that's four than the Bills, the Niners.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
The Chiefs, and probably the Eagles, right, but they beat
two of them.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
So I don't think you can take away the fact
that there are formulas and when this team plays a
certain way, they can play with those guys.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That means, you.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Know, everybody plays this game where they're gonna win what
they're gonna lose. Who's you know, Well, they can beat
any team on the schedule because they beat Kansas City
and San Francisco, but they have to play that way.
So finding a way to get back to what works
for you is the key.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And the second half the season, yes, especially because when
we're looking at strength of schedule, it should be a
little bit easier on the back half.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
But there's some power teams left and I think most
people are gonna write those games off.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't think they can.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
With this team if they play their games and for
the needs to work on. You know, everybody knows where
I'm going with it. It's the little things. Robert Hainsey
talked this week about operational. You know, it's kind of
become the buzzword. They have been very good operationally. It's
an old coach's cliche but let's clean everything up and
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see if we're any good or not, because right now
there's no way to know because they don't even get
to the situation to see if they're good. So until
they clean that up, I'm gonna be sitting on this
couch talking about it every week because you can't win
in the NFL with this team right now if you're
behind everything all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's an often used word and it's pretty vague, but consistency.
Right this team does not play consistent. They'll play up,
they'll play down, but they never seem to find that
level of consistency either running game. You know in the
past defense, what you were just saying is that they've
got to figure out how to play consistent football. And
that's when the coaches gonna be harping on that the
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second half of the season.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
No more penalties, No more penalties for me. I went
with their strength kind of being the buy in right.
So the last couple of years things have gone awry
and felt like everybody was kind of on their own.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I don't feel that out of this team. And even after.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Two bad losses and one really kind of a blowout
loss in London, you don't feel disjointed by it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
By any means.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think everybody's taking responsibility for their part in this
and not pointing the finger at each other at this
point in the season, and for that, I think a
good team knows not to do that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But it's more difficult than you realize.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
When you're in it right it's very easy to be like.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh, well, this guy should have been doing whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And they're not doing that right now, and I think
that's huge, And that's what good teams do, is they
find to figure out a way to fix what they're
doing and they don't point the finger at each other.
So for them, I'll give them a strength and character
of not letting things derail them.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And I don't think that they're going to.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I think after the buye we come expecting the good
outing in Las Vegas, and hopefully it'll prove me wrong.
But I think they'll be able to bounce back and
get a quality win there on the road against the
team that they should be in terms of a struggle.
And something I think they need to work on is
just getting in a flow. Everything feels really choppy right now.
They haven't been able to kind of end this penalties
involved as well, and there a little bit of the quarterback.
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I think maybe both of your struggles combined into this.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But getting themselves going early, whether it's.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Even on defense, getting takeaways, flying around, getting their hands
on the football. They need to get back into that
aspect of their game where they're playing fast and they're
not sitting and thinking about every single thing they're doing,
because when they play like that, that's just not how
they're going to win football games.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
To your point on buy in, I think that was
where the four and one start was so important. I mean,
you had guys that believed in the things that Liam
had been talking about, and they had results based on
all of their hard work that should carry them through
this two game stretch where things sort of fell apart.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
If this team continues to.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Have buy in to make their bare minimum and nine
win take so, I think they will. I think they'll
end up nine or ten ish cause I don't think
they're gonna lose faith in the direction.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Absolutely stay with us.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
We're gonna talk a little bit about what's been going
on in the AFC South.
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Speaker 1 (13:24):
You're on jack Zam.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's on the bye week, so we're checking in a
little bit around the AFC South see what's going on,
so we can keep track of things.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And the Colts just keep on winning.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Every time I look over the box score, getting another
dub at six to one.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Now they're like your.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
New right, I think at this point, like I wondered
whether they were legit or not, but they seem to
be legit.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well, listen, we were talking about Daniel Jones and how
he's unlocked, Jonathan Taylor, who is among the better backs,
maybe the second best back in the league, although might
be the best back in the league. The shyercase sake
one Barkley is struggling. Yeah, but it's it's more than that.
Their offensive line. John has two very good tackles, Bernard Ryman,
the young left tackle and Braden Smith. And Quenton Nelson
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has long been one of the better guards in the league,
and it looks like he's back to playing at his level.
But then there's the X factor and a guy that
I loved coming out in the draft, that's Tyler Warren,
the tight end they can use in so many different ways.
They've got this juice, this momentum going where they feel
it right now, and they are playing really good football,
beating good teams. They should have beaten the Rams in LA,
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which tells you how good they're capable of being, and
then they go out and beat the Chargers in LA.
They should have two wins on that field this year.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, they're six and one and they had a couple
of wins. They're probably where they should be. I think
the Chiefs are starting to look again like the best
team in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But the Colts are right there with him.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So the Jaguars task right now is going to be
to try to get the ship right, get back to
where they're two games behind him, so they're still in range.
Can pulling back in?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Did you?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Aways have a big task to stay within range of
the Colts until December because they're better than people thought,
and Daniel Jones has been the stabilizing factor there.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And it seems like as we look at the Texans
who fell on Monday Night football to a really good
Seahawks team though we just played, it seems like the
Coults are now the team that really needs to focus
on because the Texans seem to be going through some
struggles right now from maybe what was expected. They had
a tough end of their year last year, but now
they seem to be trying to figure things out.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Well, they're trying to get offense figured out, and they
sort of reset a lot of things in the off season,
which you know, usually there's exceptions, but as we've seen here,
it takes offenses a while to get going, and they're
not going at all offensively. So the look the best
quarterback in divisions Jane Jones, which we would have thought
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because C. J. Stroud and Trevor Lawrence are sort of
middling right now and both frankly sort of look like
they're having the same sort of of trying to get
through this part of their career until they decide what
they are. So Texans are a good defense. But I thought,
if you watch this game, I'll go back to the Jags.
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The Jags were better and can see how's the Texans work?
I thought, you know, and defensively, the Jaguars did not
get gashed in the running game, and it sort of
looked at times like the Texans couldn't stop their run.
So the Texans aren't done, but they have a steep
road to get back with the way they're playing offensively.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yea, and they could be a couple of games behind
you by the time you see them again. It's the Colts.
The Colts still have to see the Chiefs. The Colts
still have to see the Seahawks. The Colts still have
to see the forty nine ers. There's an opportunity if
you start playing good football, for you to catch them
before you even play them and you see them twice.
But the margin for error becomes narrow if you don't
start playing good football. Because the Colts, as you just said,
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have the best quarterback in the division right now, and
people in New York are scratching their head saying, wait,
that's Daniel Jones, right, But Sayakwad Barkley always said, if
you put that guy with a legitimate offensive line at
a running game, he can do it.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
And that's all way. Yeah, bears mentioned as well.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Mike Rabel returns to Tennessee and gets a big win
because all of a sudden, the Patriots are not looking
so bad themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Lean the AFC East, so I still think to this.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Day Mike Rabel not being this division was a huge
benefit to the Jaguars and every other team because from coach.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
They listen to. The Jaguars through their history have made their
share of errors where you scratch your head. In two
thousand and four they took Matt Jones instead of Aaron Rodgers, Right.
I mean, those sorts of things haunt you over time.
Oh Sorr two thousand and five, not having Mike Rabel,
letting that guy go. They're five and two his first
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season up there, Drake May has played great football and
the Titans meanwhile, you know they've just fired their coach,
so next year's a learning curve for a young quarterback.
We've seen this ship twenty one, twenty two here. They
should never have fired Rabel. They should have given him
a chance to build it again, because boy, the Patriots
look like they're playing great football. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I think a lot of franchises fall into this. You know,
you have some success with Rabel, which they did, you
don't quite get there and you think, oh, we got
to blow the whole thing up. If we don't win
the Super Bowl, then you know we have failed on
some level. You have failed if you win the Super Bowl.
But on another level, you have to realize it's hard
to win that Super Bowl. They were consistent franchised with Rabel,
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and uh, you know they're not right now, so they're
they don't.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Sometimes you don't recover from those mistakes, and for our sake,
I hope that well, not just because I just remembered
that it was you know four that the Jaguars took
Reggie Williams a wide receiver instead of Ben Roethlisberger. Maybe
you've heard of them. Super Bowl Mvpno. Five they passed
to Aaron Rodgers, and we know the Jaguars trajectory since
that moment in time. When you let these things wait,
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sometimes you don't recover from them big.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It's definitely hurting when you look and you play a
team like the Patriots or five and two right now,
and Rabel's got everything going, by the way, has klebon
Chase on playing amazing might be getting some big paycheck,
So that's interesting as well.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
But say West, we'll tell you what's going on the
rest of the bye week after.
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Speaker 1 (19:32):
Welcome, Welcome back to jag Zamits bye week.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
So for the players, they have to have I think
four days off, so they have Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
They'll be in here today and then they'll be off,
which means we'll be off for a little bit as well.
And you guys will have the weekend off obviously from
Jaguars football. But what's everybody getting into for their bye week?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
My youngest son plays small college football in Kansas and
it's the bye weeknd they have a home game. So
I am going to homecoming at Benedictine College.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Very nice, excited, head to North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Okay, so John's on the move in one season on
the move, look out. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So the shout outs John and Action are always my
favorite photos. I'm going to New England to see some
family and I'm gonna get an apple cider donut and
I'm very much looking forward.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
To I've said that about four times.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
That must be amazing. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I can I can arrange that I may eat them
on the plane.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
But I also made it's stale.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But that if there is good as if there as
good as she says.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It's probab, it's worth it. We hope you all enjoy
your weekend away.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Get into go, go to brunch, go to the farmers market,
do something you don't normally do on a Sunday, and
we'll be back next week to talk more Jaguars football
Welcome to jag Van this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Kind on a seat in Brian Sexton, John Osier Wigney today,
as we talk a little bit about the Jaguars heading
into the Spy Week, they're gonna have some time off
the recap regroup, try to go over some things after
two kind of frustrating losses two weeks in a row.
Let's start out with our big things today, brought to
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employees and retire Week. The big thing, number one is
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you got to get healthy. A lot of these issues
kind of started springing up when injuries took place. Trayvon
Walker dislocating his wrist, had to get surgery on that,
and of course Brenton Strange has been missing as he's
on IR now with a hip injury, and Brian I
don't know if at all be fixed after the break.
Obviously it'll take some time to work back, specifically for
Brenton's Strange, but they gotta get those two guys back.
I think those are two big missing pieces.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And the key with Trayvon is to not have that
full club and maybe have a brace or something where
he can actually use his fingers. When you go on IR,
you have to be going at least four games, so
Vegas would be the first opportunity that the Jaguars could
possibly bring him back to the active roster. But there's
other guys too. Eric Murray's got a neck that's been
bothering him now for a couple of weeks, and Robert
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Haines he had the hamstring and baseial tooton the shoulder.
There are just some guys who are banged up, so
hopefully these two weeks give them a chance to get
back on the field somewhere closer to one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, there's always guys that I'm covering a game and
there's the Jaguars players down. I can't see the number.
There's always a handful of guys you don't want on
that list. There's three for me this year, forty one,
eighty five and forty four, and two of those guys
have been hurt, So I do think that matters. It
can't be everything, but getting healthy I think will help
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this team, especially with Strange and Walker, be a more
physical team that they were in the first four games.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Definitely, always the folks of the bye week is to
get healthy big thing Number two is going to be overcorrect.
So while we're frustrated with the past couple of weeks performances,
it's important to remember the team is four and three.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
John. You don't want to overcorrect. You're still doing a
lot of things right.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's more about getting back to what they had been
doing right the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well, the buzz work earlier in the week was we
can't or the buzz words where we can't reinvent the wheel,
and they say that, and it's true, because you can't.
There's no time to do it, so there's no reason
to even try. Look, the things that they're doing are
not bad things, they're just not doing them well, meaning
(02:40):
you know, pre snap avoidables, operation errors, those who have
been the key And frankly, they have to figure out
a way to go from seven sacks allowed to one
or two. I don't think they're a great offensive line, Brian,
in terms of being able to withstand.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Pressure if the scoreboards against them.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
But they got to figure out a way to not
be a seven sack team, and I think that's being
in better situations offensively.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Obviously, we've talked at length about the penalties you know, John,
the Vegas game the Sunday after the buye, it has
a bullsoun It's a very important game because the Jaguars
will not have won for almost two month since having
beaten Kansas City. They haven't played good football. You mentioned
the sacks. They've not gotten any sacks the last two games.
They got no takeaways either. They couldn't run the ball,
(03:27):
they fell behind early, they made mental mistakes. So there's
a lot of things that have been working against them.
The Raiders don't appear to be a very good football
team this year. They get beat thirty one to nothing
in Kansas City last Sunday, but that doesn't mean they
won't be ready to play when the Jaguars roll in there.
And the Jaguars lost there last year. So there's a
lot riding on what the Jaguars get done this week
(03:50):
and then their preparation next week as they get ready
to resume in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Our final big thing is road Warriors. You mentioned they're
going on the road when they get that bye week
to go to Las Vegas, but three out of four
games are going to be on the roads. They're on
the road in Vegas, they're on the road in Houston,
they come back and play the Chargers, and then they're
going on the road to.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Play the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So, Brian, I think the first part of the schedule
is probably the toughest when I looked at it, but
this kind of stretch was also a little bit daunting.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Listen, if they get back to playing good football, I
am firmly confident that they'll be able to succeed away
from Jacksonville. But you know, we just mentioned that Raiders game,
and then you got the Texans the week after and
the Jaguars. As we know, it's been a long time
since they've beaten the Texans in back to back weeks.
It's been sent our pardon me twice in the same season.
It's been since twenty seventeen since they have done that.
(04:38):
So that's a huge game with a lot of implications,
and then you come home to get the Chargers before
those other road games. I mean, it's yes, you had
a stretch where you had the Niners and the Chiefs
and the Rams and the Seahawks, but it doesn't necessarily
start easier in the second half.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, they have to play well. If they play well,
they're fine on the road. They went to San Francisco
in one. They should have be Cincinnati up there. I
don't think this team has a road thing. I think
they have a not playing very well thing right now.
So the buy is at a perfect time, as they say,
so I don't worry about the location of those games
(05:15):
after the buye. I worry about them getting back to
playing well.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
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Speaker 1 (05:47):
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Speaker 2 (05:48):
And it's bye week, So we're gonna look back and
we're fleshed a little bit about the first seven weeks
of what we've seen in Jaguars football so far this year.
So we're gonna do a pro con. We're gonna do
strength and a struggle. So, Brian, what's the strength and
the struggle you've seen from the team so far Gone.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Has instituted his brand of football right. They started four
in one. They won in San Francisco, where they had
never won before. They beat Kansas City on Monday Night Football.
They're playing a physical brand of football, which is exactly
what he promised when they hired him. Look, I mean
he hasn't turned it all the way around, because we
saw the game in London and that looked like some
(06:25):
of the old Jaguars. But it's hard to be in
this building. It's hard to not see how he has
turned this thing in the direction that he wants to
take it. It may take him more than this year,
may take him into next year to get it where
he really wants it to be. But I think he's
been the highlight at this point. He really has brought
an energy and you can see that his team rallies
(06:48):
around him, and he's a transparent guy. What he says
is we've seen in his postgame speeches that he allows
us to tape in the locker room. Win or lose
is the exact same thing that he says to the media.
So I think he's been hit. I think they've nailed
this one, and that's been the pro from the first
part of the season so far.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Hard to argue that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think just his transparency as a whole has been
really helpful this year.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Good and bad. Good.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So now he went the bat, Yes, well, what are
they gonna work on? What's an improvement?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
That's a better way to put it. The quarterback he's
played okay, right, he's been. He's not a top ten quarterback.
He's not a bottom ten quarterback either. He's right in
the middle average. But he hasn't played great. And he's
your franchise guy, and you need to get him from
good to great. And there's two or three plays in
(07:36):
every game that you can go back and point to
and say, what was he thinking right there? The one
that I point out the most is Brenton's strange lined
up behind him on the goal line against Kansas City,
not to lift him over the top, right, He's supposed
to put a shoulder out and go. Instead he jumps up,
loses the ball on the goal line. There's just little
things like that that he has to clean up. John.
(07:56):
This guy is he's supposed to be the franchise quarter back,
and I get it, guys drop balls. The running game
hasn't worked. Brighton Strange has been out, but if the
Jaguars are going to get this thing going in the
second half of the season, they need him to play,
to use a coaching term, a little bit more above
the x's and o's.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, and Liam talks about playing well in the gray,
and he hasn't always played well in the gray. Played
okay at times against Kansas City. He has lifted them
at times and situations, but he hasn't played well in
the gray.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I don't know if he will.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
He needs to, and I think it's it's a huge
in the last ten games. I agree with you his
ability to be above the x's and o's to make
instinctive things. At some point a quarterback has to do it,
and he hasn't done it enough.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That's become a little more institual for sure. John, what
is what's your strength? What have you seen from the well?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
You know this may be a little too vague for
the question, but the quality wins. I mean, yeah, they
beat Carolina, who's now four and three, They beat San Francisco,
and they beat yeah, Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I mean, if you picked teams.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
From conferences, the best three teams in the NFL the
last five year or that's four than the Bills, the Niners.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
The Chiefs, and probably the Eagles, right, but they beat
two of them.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
So I don't think you can take away the fact
that there are formulas and when this team plays a
certain way, they can play with those guys.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That means, you.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Know, everybody plays this game where they're gonna win what
they're gonna lose. Who's you know, Well, they can beat
any team on the schedule because they beat Kansas City
and San Francisco, but they have to play that way.
So finding a way to get back to what works
for you is the key.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And the second half the season, yes, especially because when
we're looking at strength of schedule, it should be a
little bit easier on the back half.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
But there's some power teams left and I think most
people are gonna write those games off.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't think they can.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
With this team if they play their games and for
the needs to work on. You know, everybody knows where
I'm going with it. It's the little things. Robert Hainsey
talked this week about operational. You know, it's kind of
become the buzzword. They have been very good operationally. It's
an old coach's cliche but let's clean everything up and
(10:14):
see if we're any good or not, because right now
there's no way to know because they don't even get
to the situation to see if they're good. So until
they clean that up, I'm gonna be sitting on this
couch talking about it every week because you can't win
in the NFL with this team right now if you're
behind everything all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's an often used word and it's pretty vague, but consistency.
Right this team does not play consistent. They'll play up,
they'll play down, but they never seem to find that
level of consistency either running game. You know in the
past defense, what you were just saying is that they've
got to figure out how to play consistent football. And
that's when the coaches gonna be harping on that the
(10:56):
second half of the season.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
No more penalties, No more penalties for me. I went
with their strength kind of being the buy in right.
So the last couple of years things have gone awry
and felt like everybody was kind of on their own.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I don't feel that out of this team. And even after.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Two bad losses and one really kind of a blowout
loss in London, you don't feel disjointed by it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
By any means.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think everybody's taking responsibility for their part in this
and not pointing the finger at each other at this
point in the season, and for that, I think a
good team knows not to do that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But it's more difficult than you realize.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
When you're in it right it's very easy to be like.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh, well, this guy should have been doing whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And they're not doing that right now, and I think
that's huge, And that's what good teams do, is they
find to figure out a way to fix what they're
doing and they don't point the finger at each other.
So for them, I'll give them a strength and character
of not letting things derail them.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And I don't think that they're going to.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I think after the buye we come expecting the good
outing in Las Vegas, and hopefully it'll prove me wrong.
But I think they'll be able to bounce back and
get a quality win there on the road against the
team that they should be in terms of a struggle.
And something I think they need to work on is
just getting in a flow. Everything feels really choppy right now.
They haven't been able to kind of end this penalties
involved as well, and there a little bit of the quarterback.
(12:11):
I think maybe both of your struggles combined into this.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But getting themselves going early, whether it's.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Even on defense, getting takeaways, flying around, getting their hands
on the football. They need to get back into that
aspect of their game where they're playing fast and they're
not sitting and thinking about every single thing they're doing,
because when they play like that, that's just not how
they're going to win football games.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
To your point on buy in, I think that was
where the four and one start was so important. I mean,
you had guys that believed in the things that Liam
had been talking about, and they had results based on
all of their hard work that should carry them through
this two game stretch where things sort of fell apart.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
If this team continues to.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Have buy in to make their bare minimum and nine
win take so, I think they will. I think they'll
end up nine or ten ish cause I don't think
they're gonna lose faith in the direction.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Absolutely stay with us.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
We're gonna talk a little bit about what's been going
on in the AFC South.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
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Speaker 1 (13:24):
You're on jack Zam.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's on the bye week, so we're checking in a
little bit around the AFC South see what's going on,
so we can keep track of things.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And the Colts just keep on winning.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Every time I look over the box score, getting another
dub at six to one.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Now they're like your.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
New right, I think at this point, like I wondered
whether they were legit or not, but they seem to
be legit.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well, listen, we were talking about Daniel Jones and how
he's unlocked, Jonathan Taylor, who is among the better backs,
maybe the second best back in the league, although might
be the best back in the league. The shyercase sake
one Barkley is struggling. Yeah, but it's it's more than that.
Their offensive line. John has two very good tackles, Bernard Ryman,
the young left tackle and Braden Smith. And Quenton Nelson
(14:07):
has long been one of the better guards in the league,
and it looks like he's back to playing at his level.
But then there's the X factor and a guy that
I loved coming out in the draft, that's Tyler Warren,
the tight end they can use in so many different ways.
They've got this juice, this momentum going where they feel
it right now, and they are playing really good football,
beating good teams. They should have beaten the Rams in LA,
(14:28):
which tells you how good they're capable of being, and
then they go out and beat the Chargers in LA.
They should have two wins on that field this year.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, they're six and one and they had a couple
of wins. They're probably where they should be. I think
the Chiefs are starting to look again like the best
team in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But the Colts are right there with him.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So the Jaguars task right now is going to be
to try to get the ship right, get back to
where they're two games behind him, so they're still in range.
Can pulling back in?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Did you?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Aways have a big task to stay within range of
the Colts until December because they're better than people thought,
and Daniel Jones has been the stabilizing factor there.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And it seems like as we look at the Texans
who fell on Monday Night football to a really good
Seahawks team though we just played, it seems like the
Coults are now the team that really needs to focus
on because the Texans seem to be going through some
struggles right now from maybe what was expected. They had
a tough end of their year last year, but now
they seem to be trying to figure things out.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Well, they're trying to get offense figured out, and they
sort of reset a lot of things in the off season,
which you know, usually there's exceptions, but as we've seen here,
it takes offenses a while to get going, and they're
not going at all offensively. So the look the best
quarterback in divisions Jane Jones, which we would have thought
(15:51):
because C. J. Stroud and Trevor Lawrence are sort of
middling right now and both frankly sort of look like
they're having the same sort of of trying to get
through this part of their career until they decide what
they are. So Texans are a good defense. But I thought,
if you watch this game, I'll go back to the Jags.
(16:11):
The Jags were better and can see how's the Texans work?
I thought, you know, and defensively, the Jaguars did not
get gashed in the running game, and it sort of
looked at times like the Texans couldn't stop their run.
So the Texans aren't done, but they have a steep
road to get back with the way they're playing offensively.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yea, and they could be a couple of games behind
you by the time you see them again. It's the Colts.
The Colts still have to see the Chiefs. The Colts
still have to see the Seahawks. The Colts still have
to see the forty nine ers. There's an opportunity if
you start playing good football, for you to catch them
before you even play them and you see them twice.
But the margin for error becomes narrow if you don't
start playing good football. Because the Colts, as you just said,
(16:50):
have the best quarterback in the division right now, and
people in New York are scratching their head saying, wait,
that's Daniel Jones, right, But Sayakwad Barkley always said, if
you put that guy with a legitimate offensive line at
a running game, he can do it.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
And that's all way. Yeah, bears mentioned as well.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Mike Rabel returns to Tennessee and gets a big win
because all of a sudden, the Patriots are not looking
so bad themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Lean the AFC East, so I still think to this.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Day Mike Rabel not being this division was a huge
benefit to the Jaguars and every other team because from coach.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
They listen to. The Jaguars through their history have made their
share of errors where you scratch your head. In two
thousand and four they took Matt Jones instead of Aaron Rodgers, Right.
I mean, those sorts of things haunt you over time.
Oh Sorr two thousand and five, not having Mike Rabel,
letting that guy go. They're five and two his first
(17:46):
season up there, Drake May has played great football and
the Titans meanwhile, you know they've just fired their coach,
so next year's a learning curve for a young quarterback.
We've seen this ship twenty one, twenty two here. They
should never have fired Rabel. They should have given him
a chance to build it again, because boy, the Patriots
look like they're playing great football. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I think a lot of franchises fall into this. You know,
you have some success with Rabel, which they did, you
don't quite get there and you think, oh, we got
to blow the whole thing up. If we don't win
the Super Bowl, then you know we have failed on
some level. You have failed if you win the Super Bowl.
But on another level, you have to realize it's hard
to win that Super Bowl. They were consistent franchised with Rabel,
(18:29):
and uh, you know they're not right now, so they're
they don't.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Sometimes you don't recover from those mistakes, and for our sake,
I hope that well, not just because I just remembered
that it was you know four that the Jaguars took
Reggie Williams a wide receiver instead of Ben Roethlisberger. Maybe
you've heard of them. Super Bowl Mvpno. Five they passed
to Aaron Rodgers, and we know the Jaguars trajectory since
that moment in time. When you let these things wait,
(18:58):
sometimes you don't recover from them big.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It's definitely hurting when you look and you play a
team like the Patriots or five and two right now,
and Rabel's got everything going, by the way, has klebon
Chase on playing amazing might be getting some big paycheck,
So that's interesting as well.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
But say West, we'll tell you what's going on the
rest of the bye week after.
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Speaker 1 (19:32):
Welcome, Welcome back to jag Zamits bye week.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
So for the players, they have to have I think
four days off, so they have Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
They'll be in here today and then they'll be off,
which means we'll be off for a little bit as well.
And you guys will have the weekend off obviously from
Jaguars football. But what's everybody getting into for their bye week?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
My youngest son plays small college football in Kansas and
it's the bye weeknd they have a home game. So
I am going to homecoming at Benedictine College.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Very nice, excited, head to North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Okay, so John's on the move in one season on
the move, look out. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So the shout outs John and Action are always my
favorite photos. I'm going to New England to see some
family and I'm gonna get an apple cider donut and
I'm very much looking forward.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
To I've said that about four times.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
That must be amazing. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I can I can arrange that I may eat them
on the plane.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
But I also made it's stale.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
But that if there is good as if there as
good as she says.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It's probab, it's worth it. We hope you all enjoy
your weekend away.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Get into go, go to brunch, go to the farmers market,
do something you don't normally do on a Sunday, and
we'll be back next week to talk more Jaguars football
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