October 25, 2024 • 50 mins
On a Thursday afternoon, Jaguars Happy Hour is back in the studio as Jeff Lageman and J.P. Shadrick address the performance of the offensive line in Week 7 as well as discuss how the Jaguars defense must maintain Jordan Love. The duo discusses how the possible return of veterans Foye Oluokun and Andrew Wingard will have an impact on the team. Stay tuned as Kainani Stevens joins the show to preview the upcoming matchup against the Packers.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is Thursday October twenty fourth. This is Jaguars Happy
Hour and now appearing in the latest Double O seven
film as the latest Bond villain Teal Finger. J. P.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Chacker, Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. It is
Thursday October twenty fourth. It is week eight in the
National Football League. We've got a busy two hours ahead.
The first hour of course, Jaguars Happy Hour. Then the
Doug Peterson Show coming up at five o'clock on the
Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's Packers week, green Bay coming to town.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
The Jaguars have to defend Jordan Love and the assortment of.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Playmakers for Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
They pitched the ball over the yard Trevor Lawrence against
the Packers defense that leads the league in takeaways seventeen
on the season. And the Batch's health injury report. Maybe
this Jags team's getting healthier. We'll find out. And of course,
as we said, the Doug Peterson Show, have the head
Coaching Studio at five o'clock. As always, We're on Tention
XL ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, JP, Shadwick,
(01:15):
Jeff Logoman back in the USA.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Thank goodness, good afternoon. Yeah, I mean I like London,
but I like home better and glad to be back
at EverBank for a home game against against a good
Packers team. I mean, it's this good football team and
it starts a stretch of games that are going to
be pretty challenging.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The next five games are against teams with winning records
four of those. The next four are against teams that
are contending in the NFC, three of those four against
the NFC North, the best division in the National Football
League through seven weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, and I think, look the next week's game. Not
to get too far ahead, but I mean we can
do that as we can do media guys. I mean
players can't do that. Coaches can't do that, sure, but
I mean Philidel has its issues, but they still have
some really good components to their football team. Their quarterback
I think is not playing particularly well Jalen Hurts, but look,
(02:12):
they still play good defense, they still got a good
offensive line when they're healthy, and that game will not
be an easy one. I'm kind of a little bit,
probably different than most, and that I'm not disappointed about
the game getting flexed out. Disappointed certainly for the attention
that this team could get on Sunday night football. But
(02:33):
I get it, Sunday night football. They want to have
the best matchups they possibly can. And with the start
that the Jaguars had, it's understandable, you know. And it
does mean that we'll be home earlier. True, But I
would rather see this team play on Sunday night. Okay,
but yeah, I mean the game after that was it
at Detroit, excuse me, Vikings and then Detroit, you know,
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and Vikings are playing out of their mind. And you
know what concerns me most about them is not their
you know, reborn quarterback. It's their defense. Their defense with
Brian Floyd's leading away. Now, I mean, they are really good.
Detroit is a complete team as there is in the
National Football League. And they've got a two headed monster
(03:18):
at running back and quarterback who has been playing extremely well,
with a tough defense that lost a big component in
Aden Hutchinson, which you know that doesn't hurt. But this
one here, if you get this one, then all of
a sudden, I think you you gain a lot of
confidence maybe in yourself for the games that are coming up,
(03:38):
and that you you get up a little bit of
momentum you know, because here's the reality. When you beat
the Colts, you didn't generate any momentum because you lost
the next week. Okay here against the New England Patriots,
not a great football team, and if you don't follow
it up with a good performance, you're not generating any momentum. Again,
you got to stack wins to generate momentum to snowball
(04:01):
kind of your way through the season. And this football
team has a chance to do it at home against
a football team that has a fan base that travels
very well.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh yeah, I mean they're Packer fans everywhere. It's how
that works. When you're the Green Bay Packers, they're all
over the place. Same for the Steelers, same for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's just one of those like five heritage franchises that
travel extremely well, and Green Bay is definitely one of them.
And who doesn't want to get out of Wisconsin to
come to Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But see, that's the point is they don't travel. They're
just everywhere they live here, true, you know, but some travel, yeah,
but some tub. The reality is how many how many
people live in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's a good point, it's excellent. There's not a lot
of people in Green Bay, they aren't.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Okay, this is we'll get in deeper into the matchup
coming up in just a little bit, But to your point,
to make the rest of these games in this stretch matter,
they got to get this first one.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And yeah, they were in this same spot back at
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
They were two and five, and then they got worse
and then they started reeling off wins down the stretch.
Tennessee came back to them because they couldn't get a
healthy team on the field at all and kept losing
games that all kind of worked together. I'm curious, and
we'll ask Doug this in the second hour in the
Doug Peterson Show. But you know, what can you take
away from having already seen this happen once? It was
(05:19):
an all time epic rally that year. But it can
be done. He said it like anything's possible. Well, yes,
anything's possible. But every year is different.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And you know, you kind of got to say, well,
every year is different, and every team is different, and
yes you went through that, but not everybody went through that.
That's on this football team. Every team is different. So
it's just like saying that, Hey, look, you know, as
a coach Doug Peterson was asked about last year and
will last year have any impact on this year? You
know the losing streak, we losing five out of the
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last six, And his answer was, now, this is a
different year, it's a different team. Well, if it's different year,
different team. The same thing can be said for the
year twenty twenty two when they had an amazing rally
to get the the postseason. They were very.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Different team and it carried over though to the start
of the next year.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Then the collapse happened. Yeah, but I mean that twenty
twenty two is a long time ago, okay for this
football team. But the one thing that I hope going
into this game and that the offense really covered some
of the ills that the defense has in a big way. Okay,
(06:28):
if the Jaguars offense does not have an amazing day
running the football for how many consecutive times seventeen?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
At one point there were sixteen called runs after a scramble.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Okay, sixteen consecutive runs at the end of the game,
and the Jaguars are just pounding the Patriots so much
that their head coach after the game calls his team
saft that's right. Okay, So that was able to cover
up a lot of the shortcomings of the Jaguars defense,
(06:59):
and they've got to get some things fixed on the
defensive side of the ball. I mean, seriously, they've got
some issues on defense. Lists a few out there, like what, well,
you can't continue to still have the mental break breakdowns
or mental errors at the pace that you're having so far.
You're talking about like coverage busts, coverage bus Okay, but
(07:22):
I also when I say mental errors emmys is what
for short calleds can't happen in any aspect of the game,
whether it's against the pass or against the run. The Jaguars, though,
are doing a pretty good job against the run, I mean,
look at their rankings. Okay, doing a very good job.
But against the past, the number of breakdowns and a
number of times that we see people running open is
(07:44):
far too frequent. That's got to change, and especially against
a team like Green Bay who has a balanced attack
with one of the best running backs in the league
I think in Josh Jacobs, and then a quarterback who
is young but good, and then he's got some really
good weapons. So you better tighten up this week. As
far as eliminating some of the mental errors. And I
(08:05):
think maybe the return of Foyer, Lukan, maybe the return
of Winger might help that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
There was some of that early in the game where
they had two off sides and a neutral zone infraction
on the same defensive possession, like two from Josh.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
That goes into the category of Emmy's as well. Yeah,
mental errors, you can't have them, no, And look, fortunately
the Patriots team is in a bit of a redevelopment stage, okay,
and wasn't exactly the most challenging football team on the
planet for this Jaguars team at Whimbley, so that helped
(08:42):
a lot. But this is a little different level. Okay,
the next four games five games here, Okay, different level
teams than what you just saw in the New England Patriots.
And okay, I get it. People who love people say, wow,
you know this is the NFL, this is not college football.
Well yeah, but there's still different levels in the National
Football League. That's why they have records, Okay, that's why
(09:04):
they keep track. Okay, there's teams that have been near
the bottom consistently for a while, and there's teams that
are in rebuild modes. And that's the Patriots, and so,
I mean, that was a good win because they needed
a win, but let's be honest, it wasn't against a
great football team, a team that had a rookie quarterback
that was making a second career start behind an offensive
(09:26):
line that, oh, by the way, had had their seventh
different starting offensive line combination of the year in seven games.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And the right guard came out of the game during
the game too. I mean, so there was a lot
of that going on. They've played four different guys that
left tackle going in. They've had their issue, and there
still wasn't a lot of push on the quarterback, not
as much as you'd like, right, like to see in
a little bit more, like to see a little bit more,
particularly out of Josh and Trayvon for the entire game.
(09:59):
Defensive tackle continues to be a spot that's a little
bit worrisome, you know. The one thing that I liked
in the game was the changes that they made in
the back end seemed.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
To help some. They moved Savage to the safety spot,
Antonio Johnson went to more of just a dime type
of role. Jari and Jones took over the nickel position
from Savage because of Savage moving to safety, you know,
and I think that helped it eliminated some of the breakdowns,
but you still had some breakdowns in the middle, you know,
(10:32):
And I think that the return of Foyer a Luken
will help that in a in a big way. Who
you take off the field at linebacker?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Me?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, No, the other person I'm on the show with, Yes,
you have to be the coach. Yesking, I'm taking Devin
Lloyd off. Okay, I said it earlier in the week.
I talked to you about it last week, and that
you know, he's he plays well against the run, he's athletic,
he's physical. But the problem and you hear Doug Peterson
(11:02):
talking about this term called I discipline. How many times
have we heard that term a lot? Okay? Yeah, And
I'm not saying it's directed directly at Devon, but I
think part of it is directed at devn and some
of the mistakes that he's made. And that's you know.
So the reality is is that you can have two
starting linebackers on the field when you have a nickel defense,
(11:23):
okay two, when you go to dime, you only have one.
Ventro Miller has earned a spot on this football team
he's earned the right to play more when Foyer comes back,
because the reality is, when Foyer comes back, he comes
back as a starter. He's not going to come back
as a rotational player. And oh, you know, we're gonna
(11:44):
work him into the lineup because we don't have a
depth charge. He's your starter now. However, the way he's
your best linebacker, the way they've played it this year,
they've taken him off the field, so which I don't
agree with. I don't think. I mean, look now, when
he's coming back, you know, you got to work him
back in, make sure the foot is okay. The plantar
fasciois that he has, which by the way, I've had
(12:06):
it back in the day, and extremely extremely painful, uncomfortable
at times. But there's a lot of things that they
can do, you know, the orthotics and taping, the food
and the treatment and everything that he's gotten that I
think will help him out. But when he comes back,
he's on field. He's on the field, and then you
got to maybe give him spells occasionally until you feel
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good about the foot and you feel good about his
conditioning level. But was I a fan of rotating him
earlier in the season. Not so much. But the only
benefit I think that you are the one thing that
I would say that you benefit from that was because
he was rotating in. Ventra Miller was rotating in. Then
he got some experience, I think, which helped him once
he did finally get in the light on, and then
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he was out there and making plays. Ventro Miller, though,
JP watching a film of him, I mean, it's a joy.
I mean, I'm not saying he's Ray Lewis or anything
like that, but there hasn't been a linebacker here in
quite some time, going all the way back to Pause
that attacks the line of scrimmage, I know, and Pause
never even attacked it like that. And look, PA's a
(13:13):
great player. I'm not saying that. I don't want anybody
get confused. I'm not saying Ventrel Miller's at the level
of Pizzlusni. I'm not. Okay, that's a pretty lofty standard,
okay in Jaguars history, But just the way that Ventrel
attacks the line of scrimmage is amazing to watch. I
mean amazing to watch when he fires, he's attacking, when
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he diagnoses offensive linemen are off balance and they're getting
rocked because he is attacking and running backs are getting rocked.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It's a lot of fun to watch. We'll come back
in just a moment and hear from it. Coach Doug
Peterson on the opposing quarterback this week, Jordan Love and
what he has to offer.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
A little bit later. Jaguars offense.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Can they maintain what they did last week in the
ground game? Moving forward with Tank Bigsby And we'll see
a little later the injury report and see where things
are trending. Now Day two of practice heading into week
eight in the National Football League. We're on tenon xl
AM ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube,
(14:20):
and this is Jaguars Happy Hour, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
So that's that injury.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Kount Of calls a quarterback down, so he's in the pocket.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
He's seen getting the ball out of the more quick passing,
the screen game, things like that, you know, have.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Have helped him.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And of course they're run game, you know, and and
getting the ball you know, uh, you know, in Jacob's
hands and letting him go and they do a great
job with shifts motions and you know, sort of the
misdirection stuff too that you got to be prepared for
and then obviously the play action pass comes off that.
So you're just seeing I think a quarterback has kind
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of settled in quite frankly since the injury.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
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Jeff Lockman and the Yeah. The Packers with Jordan Love
now in eleven straight games, including the playoffs, has two
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or more touchdown passes. Pretty good, right, He's also thrown
a bunch of interceptions in that time. Fran Oh, yes
he has.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
He'll put it up. He's missed two games this year
and he's right around the top of the league with interceptions.
He's got eight of them. And so when you miss
two games and you have eight interceptions, that's not a
very good number. So he's going to give you some opportunities.
You got to take advantage of it. And if you
can do that, you would also kind of turn one
(16:19):
of the numbers that hasn't been so good for your
defense around, which is the lack of takeaways, which I
think right now the Jaguars defense might be on a
record pace for a season low takeaways. What was the low.
I think it's nine a few years ago and that
was that was twenty one, wasn't it. I think it
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was twenty one. I think that's the low. We've got
to confirm that, but we're guessing that. But Jordan Loves
a good quarterback. What's amazing to me is that he's
getting ready to make his twenty fourth regular season start
and him and Trevor Lawrence are on the same pace
goal fifty five million dollars a year. Because remember, Jordan
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Love didn't do anything for a number of years because
he sat behind Aaron Rodgers and he didn't even have
a start. He had one start prior to last year,
one start prior to last year, and then he started
all the games last year, had a really good season.
His career record right now twelve and eleven, and he's
got an arm that can make all the throws. I
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don't think there's doubting any of his abilities there. But
he does make some poor decisions at times, which is
why you see the interception numbers, and you've got to
you've got to find a way to make the plays
when given the opportunity, because he's going to throw a
couple of them up under pressure. He will make a
poor decision, but you know there's a lot of quarterbacks
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that do that. Trevor's been really good in that category.
This year kind of been cleaned with the football, making
good decisions and protecting the football. Jordan Love's kind of
been the opposite. So if you can make him make
those mistakes and make those interceptions, you got a really
good chance. They spread it around a bunch of different
receivers as well. The Pickers have six players two or
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more touchdowns this year, and it's tied for second most
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Buffalo has seven guys with two or more and it's
the tight end Tucker Craft and the wide receiver down
Tavian Wicks with four touchdowns each leading the way Virginia
guy by the way, Wicks, Oh see, yeah he's a
uva guy.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Cavalier, Yeah he's a uva guy. But I mean, look,
they get everybody involved, from Wicks to Watson to Dobbs
to Reid to Craft the tight end, even Melton who
is kind of way back on the depth chart at
wide receiver, but he does a good job of spreading
the ball round. This is This is the battle of
two head coaches that have you know, even though Doug
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doesn't call the plays, Lafleur does. From what I understand,
this is a battle of two very good, offensive minded
football teams that have to be honest to fifty five
million dollars year quarterbacks. And I think it's gonna be
a really good football game. I think it's gonna be
one that that my popcorn will be ready for because
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I think there's gonna be a lot of offensive firepower
in this game.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It is of the five highest paid quarterbacks by average salary.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Only Jordan Love has a winning record this year. Everybody
else is fine, kind of amazing, right, right, Dak Prescott's
in there. Three and three, two is one and one Trevor. Yeah, yeah,
it's right. All that money and you got, you got
not a lot of wins.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
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Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know, we talk all this quarterback stuff, but let
me give some credit to the Packers offensive line because
they're pretty good. You know, like last week with the Patriots,
they're seventh different starting offensive line combination. The Packers offensive
line have started every week the same lineup, and that's
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a good unit. PFF ranks all of the offensive lines. Oh,
we love them, and I know that you're a big fan.
PFF has them as a top five offensive line. If
you evaluated the Jaguars offensive line over the last three weeks,
you might put them in the top five because they've
been doing a pretty good job as of late. Right
now they're down in the twenty somewhere. But that Packers
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offensive line is they're legit, they're good. I think it's
imperative that Josh and Trayvon have big games this week.
If you don't get big games from those two guys,
then it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I'll slipping around out of the Jaguars offense in their
matchup this week against the Packers defense that leads the
league with seventeen takeaways. Xavier McKinney had an interception in
each of the first five games this season. Tyre Alexander
is on the outside, and we'll tell you about it
all game long.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
He likes to talk, chirp whatever you want to call that.
Can this Jaguars offense run like they did last week?
It's that's the stake. Yes, yeah, I mean, look, if
you watch the film from last week against Houston, C J.
Stroud got hammered. He'd had a career low passing yards.
(21:39):
I wrote the numbers down he had. He was ten
of twenty one for eighty six yards and a fifty
eight point eight rating, And then those numbers came when
Joe Mixon was running wild. I mean Joe Mixon. Joe
Mixon had a monster game. I got to just point
it out because I'm watching the film and I'm going
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this might be the best that I've seen Joe Mixon run.
He was that good and dicing up the Green Bay
Packers defense, which shocking, right that he's having a monster game,
and then the quarterback doesn't have at least a good game.
But the Packers the ability to pressure c. J. Stroud
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and to confuse the protection of the Houston Texans was impressive.
And that's what I worry about here in this game
is can the Packers confuse the protection of the Jaguars
offensive line, tight ends, running backs because they are all
part of the protection for Trevor Lawrence. Because we've seen
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when Trevor has had early pressure in games, he hasn't
been as sharp throughout the most the majority part of
the game. That's the challenge this week because they run
some cool pressures. Now they run. They don't play like
you know, they're not going back to Rex Ryan Zeros
and sending the house. They play a lot of zone
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blitz and the Texans had a hard time figuring out
who was coming and who is not and can we
block them all.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They rotated every time, and different guys are dropping out
and doing all that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, they did a really good job with that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
We seemed to watch for sure, and you know, challenge
and they were the way it worked last week. And
I get, yes, it's the Patriots, but they hit a
couple of shots when they were there down the field,
like there were a couple of big time throws from
Trevor in that game to you know, when they were
even before they started running the ball. That first the
drive after their down ten nothing, second and nine throw
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to Christian Kirk, which was a great catch by the
great catch, great throw, big moment, had to have that drive,
got it done.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And of course the deep ball later to Brian Thomas
right of the numbers, a great, great route, and the
one to Kirk just real quick on that one, real
small window because you know you had a you know,
a defender in front, defender behind, and so to be
able to kind of get that in there by Trevor,
that was a great throw, great catch as well. And
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then the deep ball to Brian Thomas and the Patriots
were playing what is called quarters coverage and not to
be overly football complicated. Quarters is for people to understand it,
just think of four quarters equals a dollar. There's four
guys in the back end playing twenty five percent zones
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in the background. Okay, And what Brian did which was
really cool, is that he attacked the one guy, which
was Gonzales in the quarters coverage and made sure that
the other defender said, oh, he's going over there for
Gonzales and is not even going to be in my area.
But then Brian, after he attacks Gonzales, kind of bends
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it back to the middle and that's really where there
should have been a little extra help. But Brian ran
a great route to keep all the attention away from
himself from that middle safety kind of player. And what
a catch. I mean, Gonzalez had his arm right across
across the bread basket of the hands of Brian Thomas
Junior and he still catches it. Amazing catch. And if
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teams are going to keep playing Brian Thomas like that,
they better start thinking about doubling him. I hope they don't.
I hope they don't, but keep playing him like that.
And if you're Doug Peterson and press Taylor. You got
to keep finding ways to get him singled and deep
because I mean, right now, is there a better deep
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receiver in the game.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Today's it's his third catch of fifty plus yards. It's
tired for the most in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, I mean, you go, I'm not trying to you know,
I don't want to get a speeding ticket here and
say that he's you know, the greatest things in sliced
bread ever. But he's really good. You're saying really good.
Don't suit him up for a teal jacket yet? Yes, okay, yeah,
but he's a He's a joy to watch. I can
tell you that. I mean, look, can you think of
any other player on this Jaguars roster that has given
(26:02):
more energy to this team in game so far this year?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean, Tank Bigsby's getting there right when they has
some big runs like that and the breakaway run the
other week. I mean there's some of that, but consistently
it's been the down.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
To fit Brian shot to. I mean, he's Thomas. He
has woken this team up in a lot of cases.
And we always know that explosive plays are kind of
what leads to points in the NFL. Well, I mean,
he's an explosive play waiting to happen.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We've got plenty to discuss. Kayle Stevens will join us
to discuss at all, and we have to get into
this Jaguars running game a little bit more as well.
We'll hear from Tank Bigsby in just a little bit
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Speaker 3 (27:08):
I wouldn't sound surprised myself. I mean, I know my abilities.
I know what I'm capable of.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I just try to come out and be the
best I can be and do what I know I
can do. SPTJ Brian Thomas, Junior Jaguars Wide Receiver.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
In the locker room.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
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Speaker 4 (27:57):
Stevens's JP Shadrick.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You do everything around here. Let's yes, and we thank
you for it.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I'm good You're back here so I don't have to
fill in on happy hour.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Well, thank you for all your efforts. The last few weeks.
It's been a lot of moving parts, happy to help
it works.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Teams back, teams winning or won a game one yes,
felt okay in.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
The locker room. Last couple of days.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
It has, and I think obviously coming back from London,
they absolutely needed that win. To get on that plane
without a win was going to be not great for anybody,
So that's definitely given them a little life. I think
the way that they did it was big because to
fall down ten, here we go again, what we've seen
all season long, To fight back a little bit and
then have the offense have so much success was impressive
(28:43):
to me. We finally saw some changes defensively, which I
think a lot of people were hoping would happen a
little bit sooner. But we're finally the team's getting a
little healthy. We're seeing some of those changes on the
back end. There more players coming back to help out
with that, so potentially this week as well. So I
think it's all trending positive. Of course, you know, week
to week, it's just a lot easier to work on
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stuff when you get a win the week before.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
In a big way. I just you know, it's like
I remember when I was in high school and playing
at Parkview High School, we had a head coach who
was a little bit of a taskmaster, you know, a
little stern, you know, and if you lost, you weren't
allowed to talk on the bus ride home, you know,
So like when you have a long trip, I mean, look,
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you know that's a long flight to have with you know,
nobody talking on the way home, even though they're allowed
to talk. But I mean it's still it's that mindset
when you have a game that you lose, you've got
to kind of you got to soak in it for
that long on a plane ride back. And so I'm
glad they got the win. If you had lost the Patriots,
I think things would have gotten very loud. I mean,
(29:49):
I mean really loud loud anyway.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
But yeah, well not just outside inside it loud.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
It would have been loud, really loud. And the reality
is is that you're kind of back where you 're
at prior to that game if you lose this one.
I mean, that's the reality.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It is because they've dug themselves into such a deep
poll at this point.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That's right, And this is a good football team in
a stretch that has a lot of good football teams,
and this football team is going to challenge your defense,
so your offense needs to be on point.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
That's wrong, up with it? I think got to win
a shootout at this point. I don't know how much
you're gonna be able to show slow green Bay down.
So hopefully what we saw last week from the offense
carry that over, score a lot of points and have
the ball last. Right.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I think it's going to take I mean thirty points
to win this game. Boy, maybe thirty five? Yeah, I
mean I think that's where it's going to be a
lot of points. Yeah, I mean, what is green Bay
average in twenty seven? A lot? What are we giving
up the game a lot, a whole lot, so it's
(30:56):
kind of interesting. And that you have, Okay, the Jaguars offense,
which is a strong suit, okay against Packers defense that's
getting a ton of takeaways that you think, okay, you
think you feel good about the Jaguars chances there, but
at the same time you're going, well, well, waiting minute,
Green Bay's been pretty good, and then the Jaguars defensive matchup,
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you don't feel good about it all.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I don't feel great.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Do you feel good about any part of the Jaguars
defense versus the Packers offense matchup? I mean not on paper, No,
I don't. I mean, it's just okay, let's put the
papers away in your heart defense, in your heart of
your head. Do you feel good about that? It's not
(31:44):
a great match yeah. I mean, even if you say that,
I think we're hopeful.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yes, and that's a good place to be.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, we're hopeful that. Okay, Tyson second game back, Foyer
coming back, maybe a winger, not sure, you know, hopefully
Foyers back, Maybe end up having a couple of takeaways
as a defense, but right now you haven't been getting
them three all year.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Two on defense right, Jordan Love will give you a chance,
though I think similarly to the Patriots, Drake May gave
a couple of shots he dropped probably at least two,
so the opportunity will be there. I think Trevor's been
really good smart with the football this year. I don't
think we give him enough credit for that because fumbling
was a probably Jim turnovers were a problem for him. Interceptions,
He's only turned the ball over a couple of times,
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so he's been smart with the football. If the defense
can get off the field some of those times, I
think that gives you more of a chance to get
the offense going.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And another part of this offense, certainly last week, they
ran the ball in the second half, they had that
long stretch of plays where they ran seventeen in a row,
and Tank Bigsby did not put the ball on the deck.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Last week in the running game, he dropped a pass.
That was one. But when are we going to get
past the point of talking about that one until he
consistently doesn't do it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
It's gonna take a while, right, don't have the same thing.
Right one year he's fumbling the ball, next year, didn't
fumble it at all. He didn't say it, and then
we won this year, fumbles the football again, so it's
a topic.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Also, it's not far. I mean Tank didn't do last game,
but he's done it within last month, so you know,
sometimes it doesn't hurt him because it's on a kick
return and they get.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
The ball back or whatever may.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
But that's coaches noticed that that's still ball security.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That's still a problem, and that's what the opponents are coaching.
When like the last game against the Patriots, when you
actually watch the game and you watch the film, you
could see that the defenders were treating him and Durness
Johnson differently a little bit. I'm seriously you, I mean,
they were really going after the ball when Tank had
it in his possession versus like a Durness Johnson. And
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that's just that's coaching awareness by you know, the opposing team.
Because the fact of the matter is is that he
has put the ball on the carpet a few times.
He's lost four fumbles in his career, and that was
I think when he had like ninety touches and that's
a pretty high rate. He's obviously had some more touches
and hasn't lost it since then, but he's put it
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on the ground, you know, just been fortunate enough to
get that ball back. And so I think, to answer
my own question, when do you stop talking about that?
Is maybe when he has a season that finishes and
you're not seeing that anymore.
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Speaker 3 (34:44):
Back at Home Base right at Strings.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
We are back. We've been gone for a while Hurricane
and then we were in London. So we are now
back at Strings. Jeff can get his favorite meal of
the week, and then we're gonna get to talk to
some players. Ventrel Miller's going to be with us this week.
Oh cool, Yeah, absolutely, He's just such a character. It's
great his I don't know if you guys watched sounds
of the game yet, but it's out, and he did
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one of the pregame speeches in the huddles and I
didn't understand all of what he was saying. I was
very excited. I feel like people would run through a
wall for him.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You know, every week when I watched the film, and
Kay's seen my list before, and I've shown some of
the plays to her and JP, you've seen my list before.
You know, when I watched the film, I'll write down
the play number and then a description. Sometimes good, some
things are good, sometimes things are bad. Well with Ventro,
much like with Brenton Strange, over the last couple of weeks,
I had a pretty good section of him every week
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of how good he's been. This week not so much
with him, but I had a section on Ventrel and
there were like six plays that he had in this
game that I'm just were to me, wow moments. I mean,
where he's attacking, he's running through the tackles. I mean,
he's a special talent. And for a young player that
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how he reacts in such a quick fashion and then
attacks where he needs to attack without hesitation is very rare.
It's very rare. Sometimes it takes time and time on
task to feel or gain that confidence to attack it
like that. But he's rolling, man, he is rolling. Fun
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to watch TFLs attacking guards. He's literally he's hitting guards
that are pulling around into a hole for him before
they even can get square in a hole. That's how
fast he's getting there. He's hitting them when they're in
a weak position. That's fast. That's playing downhill.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Love that Jaguars have invested in that position over the
last few years a lot.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
But here's the other thing we keep forgetting. He tour
his achilles last year, right, I mean we're talking about
a guy who's coming back from a torn achilles. I mean,
do you guys see any signs.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Of You'd see no hesitation, you'd see no side of it.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Now, No, that's impressive alone by itself, just being out there.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
So and in that capacity essentially a rookie. Yes, he
didn't play last year.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
No, he didn't play last year at all. I mean
went down in the preseason. And now what you're talking about,
you know, the sounds of the game, he's getting the
team amped up before the game and he's a second
year player, is really a rookie. I mean that's pretty
(37:31):
cool to see, you know, young player kind of take
that role. But I think what it also says is
that there hasn't been enough of that coming from elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, there's some other veteran guys around here that that's
kind of not how they roll.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Well, I mean some guys have it, some guys don't,
but take it. You got to have some of that.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
On the field too. We've been saying it for weeks.
Playmakers got to make plays. So if you want to
lead by example and you don't want to yell at everybody,
you got to do that too. Haven't seen that from everybody.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Who's that in the Jags broadcasting department?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
You thinkers make plays?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
No, no, no, the one to like shake everybody up
and do like the breakdown.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Who you think would that be? M you? I think you? Yeah,
I think yeah. I don't know. I think it goes on.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I was gonna say, oh, yeah, imagine you imagine John
Oser trying to break down the group.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yes, I would run through a wall for John Oser.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Absolutely, Johnny Ozone. But you know what, though I love them,
the stuff that he writes on Jaguars dot com is money.
It's almost like his job gold. I've said this before,
when when First of all, I've known John for a
long time back when he has ponytail.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Great, I need more photos of that.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
By the way, wow uh yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Jags fans out there, if you want to at me
on Twitter, I would love to see John Oser's ponytail photos.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
And when he has when he left here, he I
know he was in Indianapolis for a while, and because
the Colts were in the division, I would in the
The Coults at the time had a PR director that
was horrendous, horrendous, you know. I mean, maybe their PR
director wasn't horrendous, but their weekly game release was horrendous.
(39:22):
It was literally like a It's like an accountant's book.
Look at all what Peyton Manning's done. He's done this,
and he's done that.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
What else?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
My point is is that the whole reason for having
a weekly release is to give the nuggets to all
the broadcast departments and media members so that they don't
have to decipher all of these numbers. Give them nuggets
cliff notes, give them the cliff notes version. What does
it have to do with Okay, because you didn't get
(39:55):
that the Cults press release, you had to read John
at wherever he was whether it was at the newspaper
or Colts dot com. And if you read his stuff,
you got every main storyline that you needed to get
about the Colts. And it's the same thing with the Jaguars.
And and I'm not saying that because I've known John
long time and I didn't. I definitely did not like
(40:17):
the Ponytail. But he is a talented writer who does
a great job. I guess no, Joe, he didn't like
yours either. He did not pay me for this at
all either. Okay, that we know of, he did not.
Jaguars h's too cheap to pay anybody. Oh wow, you
guys know that.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
No comment at Jaguars All Access Television tonight seven o'clock,
Fox thirty strings, Ventrel Miller.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Ky Downy Stevens, Brent Martineau, Yeah, who's that guy? And
Jeff Flagerman TV TV. Martina was in London he was Yeah.
I saw him Stewart, I saw they were by the way.
Did you go to the Fulham game? I did? Did
you go to the Fulham You didn't go? Awesome?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
The new Riverside stands incredible, awesome. We sat in there
like the first row of the upper deck. It was
all right over the field. Amazing. It was fantastic. They
got smoked unfortunately three to one. It was one nil
and then they scored three straight.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah. Yeah, left fine, Yeah, I left five minutes. But
the new stands nice. Yeah, that's pretty pretty cool. All right,
let's come back. Kai, Thanks appreciate it. You have a
great one tonight. That's Kai Stevens, who's been busy.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Carrying what I can the last few weeks. Very nice,
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Speaker 3 (41:49):
This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Yeah, you know it come over.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
You know we all got team by the time we
all got to sit there in the grove and look
at each other's face all.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Day, you know, all day. Yeah man, I'm hollday. So
you know, it's an energy thing. I feel like it
came back.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We had a great pratacy today, but we just got
to take care of the little things and go out
and insecure high love Oh.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Of is cartavious tank Bigsby in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
This week, Jaguars running back Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour,
JP Shatterwick floggingman our thanks to Kay Stevens joining us
each and every week. Yeah, Tank Bigsby another one hundred
yard game, two in the last three weeks, of course,
and put together a fantastic effort last time out at
Wembley and hoping to carry that over this week. We'll
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see the status of Travis et and Junior again. We'll
see what happens with that ham string. But ham strings
are not good for running backs.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
No, no, yeah, so look very very good that they
have the running back room that they do. And the
emergence obviously of Bigsby has been huge for this offense.
And when each end gets back. You know, there's been
(43:14):
so many questions that Doug, I think in the last
couple of weeks really about, you know, does Bigsby become
your starter? And I've been kind of a little bit
I don't want to say myths, but confused by the
question because you know, look, each guy does different things well,
and you can have two running backs that essentially are
co starters. It's okay, well, I mean one's going to
(43:37):
be on the field the first play of the game
exactly your starter, and and the other part of that
that I want to say, I'm mythed By. I'm also
kind of surprised by the answer and that Doug says, well, hey, look,
you can't lose your job because of injury. It happens
all the time in the National Football League. Guys lose
their jobs because of injury all the time. Happens Drew
(44:02):
Bledsoe lost his job because of an injury, and then
Tom Brady came in and then never came out. Trent Green,
Trent Green, Saint Thwait with Kurt Warner. Okay, it happens,
and so I wish that Doug had said, hey, look,
we really kind of have two starters here, and this
it's all about team, and you know, we're gonna do
(44:23):
what's best for the team.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I mean, in reality, when Travis is back, he's gonna
play something, and they're both gonna play like they did before.
I don't know exactly the percentage of snaps they're both
gonna be on the field certain situations Travis is really
good for and the Tanks getting better at.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
All of it. Tank's still not the receiver though, correct. Okay,
you're saying he's getting better at all of it. I
don't say not all of it. He didn't he dropped
the ball last week. He dropped the ball on what
would have been maybe a fifty yard gain on a screen.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Because that in theory, that gives the defense a queue,
Well what's coming if he's out on the field, right.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
I mean, well, yeah, yes, and no, I mean yeah,
I mean you got you. But you have to play
to the strengths of the running back. I mean you
can still kind of confuse defense and it's not always
going to be a run in Tank Big Toby. You know,
when he's in on the field, you can still pass it.
Play action is a huge part of that. But but yeah,
I just you really have two really good, starting caliber
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running backs. Etn is a is an excellent, excellent receiver
out of the backfield, catches balls that most running backs
would not catch. And so that's a really good thing.
And let give credit to de Ernest Johnson. He had
a solid game, solid game. He kind of took over
that role that Etn kind of had filled. But more
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than that too, he he does a really good job
in the running game, you know, the straight running game.
Given Tank blows and but Tank's got great endurance too
to be able to stay on the field for the
number of possessions, you know, twenty six carries. I mean
you talking about a workhorse effort that he really didn't
look tired or slow on any of those snaps.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Jernie Johnson's path is pretty fascinating to an undrafted guy
and then went fishing for an offseason and then signed
in the UFL and with the.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Team that the league folded, and.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Then got latched on with a team and kind of
just hung around and built his career up and he's
still at it, so he's been good player things. Time
now for the injury report presented by Baptist Health, changing
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and Eric Armstead defensive end with a shoulder injury limited
(46:39):
both days in practice, Gabe Davis battling a knee issue,
limited both days. Evan Ingram with a hamstring injury limited Wednesday,
full today, Travis et and junior hamstring limited both days,
says he O to Maywoe defensive tackle calf injury limited
both days. Cam Robinson in concussion protocol, did not practice Wednesday,
(47:00):
limited today. That's a step in the right direction. We'll
see what happens tomorrow, and if they clear him by
the weekend, we'll get to this conversation in a moment.
Fo Yer looking with a foot issue limited both days.
His windows open of course. Andrew Winger knee injury limited
both days. Now, if Cam Robinson clears protocol, does he
(47:20):
get back in the lineup at left tackle?
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Is Walker Little done enough to play and have it?
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Well?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
It was an injury, right, so he can't lose his
job because of an injury. I don't know. Uh, I'm
going to go back and I'm say this again. People
lose their jobs to injury all the time, and it
doesn't mean that you're going to lose it for the
long term. I think you also can be a little
bit cautious with a player coming back from the concussion
protocol to maybe, you know, hold him out and even
(47:48):
if he clears, let's say he clears the protocol and
he's eligible to come back, you say, hey, look, let's
just make sure that we get him back completely and
we can play Walker Little this week, because reality is
Walker Little played his rear end off. If he's cleared
then he's cleared that starting left tackle here since twenty seventeen.
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If he's cleared and doesn't play, that's a massive story.
I don't know about massive. I mean it's it's a
it's a story. It's a story. Yeah, but I don't
know about massive. It's a big deal to me. Yeah,
Guy's been the story left tackles for two players, and
I think it would be all. I think it would
also become a bit of a story if he's cleared
because of what Doug said about the running back position
(48:31):
with ETN and all that. Yeah, to that extent. But
the fact is is that Walker Little played very well.
Was there a great player on the other side of
him that he had to block? No. But the one
thing that Walker did which was really good in the game,
and Biselli thinks he had the highest grade of any
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offensive lineman, and I would not disagree with that. The
thing that he did the best was that how he's
strained in the running game, how he finished and he's
got his footwork was really solid. And that's always been
a little bit better than Cam. And the part that
I think that Cam's lost a little bit is some
of the finish that he used to have in the
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run game. But the performance of Walker, you could argue
that it warrants another start, and if the guy has
to be put into the reserve lineup, maybe given another
week to get completely healthy with that concussion. Maybe, But
(49:37):
I agree it's going to be a story. It is
if he's cleared. If he's clear, If he's cleared, we'll
see Walker starts. Dennis the story because I mean for
a couple of different reasons, because he's been the left
tackle here for a while. Number two because of an injury.
We'll see them. By the way he got he got
rocked a couple of times. Yeah, you know, in the
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first five plays of the game, he took a hit
from the linebacker and then a defensive lineman and you
could just really see the violence of it, and I'm
sure it didn't feel very good.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Chacker, Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. It is
Thursday October twenty fourth. It is week eight in the
National Football League. We've got a busy two hours ahead.
The first hour of course, Jaguars Happy Hour. Then the
Doug Peterson Show coming up at five o'clock on the
Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's Packers week, green Bay coming to town.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
The Jaguars have to defend Jordan Love and the assortment of.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Playmakers for Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
They pitched the ball over the yard Trevor Lawrence against
the Packers defense that leads the league in takeaways seventeen
on the season. And the Batch's health injury report. Maybe
this Jags team's getting healthier. We'll find out. And of course,
as we said, the Doug Peterson Show, have the head
Coaching Studio at five o'clock. As always, We're on Tention
XL ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, JP, Shadwick,
(01:15):
Jeff Logoman back in the USA.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Thank goodness, good afternoon. Yeah, I mean I like London,
but I like home better and glad to be back
at EverBank for a home game against against a good
Packers team. I mean, it's this good football team and
it starts a stretch of games that are going to
be pretty challenging.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The next five games are against teams with winning records
four of those. The next four are against teams that
are contending in the NFC, three of those four against
the NFC North, the best division in the National Football
League through seven weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, and I think, look the next week's game. Not
to get too far ahead, but I mean we can
do that as we can do media guys. I mean
players can't do that. Coaches can't do that, sure, but
I mean Philidel has its issues, but they still have
some really good components to their football team. Their quarterback
I think is not playing particularly well Jalen Hurts, but look,
(02:12):
they still play good defense, they still got a good
offensive line when they're healthy, and that game will not
be an easy one. I'm kind of a little bit,
probably different than most, and that I'm not disappointed about
the game getting flexed out. Disappointed certainly for the attention
that this team could get on Sunday night football. But
(02:33):
I get it, Sunday night football. They want to have
the best matchups they possibly can. And with the start
that the Jaguars had, it's understandable, you know. And it
does mean that we'll be home earlier. True, But I
would rather see this team play on Sunday night. Okay,
but yeah, I mean the game after that was it
at Detroit, excuse me, Vikings and then Detroit, you know,
(02:56):
and Vikings are playing out of their mind. And you
know what concerns me most about them is not their
you know, reborn quarterback. It's their defense. Their defense with
Brian Floyd's leading away. Now, I mean, they are really good.
Detroit is a complete team as there is in the
National Football League. And they've got a two headed monster
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at running back and quarterback who has been playing extremely well,
with a tough defense that lost a big component in
Aden Hutchinson, which you know that doesn't hurt. But this
one here, if you get this one, then all of
a sudden, I think you you gain a lot of
confidence maybe in yourself for the games that are coming up,
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and that you you get up a little bit of
momentum you know, because here's the reality. When you beat
the Colts, you didn't generate any momentum because you lost
the next week. Okay here against the New England Patriots,
not a great football team, and if you don't follow
it up with a good performance, you're not generating any momentum. Again,
you got to stack wins to generate momentum to snowball
(04:01):
kind of your way through the season. And this football
team has a chance to do it at home against
a football team that has a fan base that travels
very well.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh yeah, I mean they're Packer fans everywhere. It's how
that works. When you're the Green Bay Packers, they're all
over the place. Same for the Steelers, same for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's just one of those like five heritage franchises that
travel extremely well, and Green Bay is definitely one of them.
And who doesn't want to get out of Wisconsin to
come to Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But see, that's the point is they don't travel. They're
just everywhere they live here, true, you know, but some travel, yeah,
but some tub. The reality is how many how many
people live in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's a good point, it's excellent. There's not a lot
of people in Green Bay, they aren't.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Okay, this is we'll get in deeper into the matchup
coming up in just a little bit, But to your point,
to make the rest of these games in this stretch matter,
they got to get this first one.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And yeah, they were in this same spot back at
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
They were two and five, and then they got worse
and then they started reeling off wins down the stretch.
Tennessee came back to them because they couldn't get a
healthy team on the field at all and kept losing
games that all kind of worked together. I'm curious, and
we'll ask Doug this in the second hour in the
Doug Peterson Show. But you know, what can you take
away from having already seen this happen once? It was
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an all time epic rally that year. But it can
be done. He said it like anything's possible. Well, yes,
anything's possible. But every year is different.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And you know, you kind of got to say, well,
every year is different, and every team is different, and
yes you went through that, but not everybody went through that.
That's on this football team. Every team is different. So
it's just like saying that, Hey, look, you know, as
a coach Doug Peterson was asked about last year and
will last year have any impact on this year? You
know the losing streak, we losing five out of the
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last six, And his answer was, now, this is a
different year, it's a different team. Well, if it's different year,
different team. The same thing can be said for the
year twenty twenty two when they had an amazing rally
to get the the postseason. They were very.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Different team and it carried over though to the start
of the next year.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Then the collapse happened. Yeah, but I mean that twenty
twenty two is a long time ago, okay for this
football team. But the one thing that I hope going
into this game and that the offense really covered some
of the ills that the defense has in a big way. Okay,
(06:28):
if the Jaguars offense does not have an amazing day
running the football for how many consecutive times seventeen?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
At one point there were sixteen called runs after a scramble.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Okay, sixteen consecutive runs at the end of the game,
and the Jaguars are just pounding the Patriots so much
that their head coach after the game calls his team
saft that's right. Okay, So that was able to cover
up a lot of the shortcomings of the Jaguars defense,
(06:59):
and they've got to get some things fixed on the
defensive side of the ball. I mean, seriously, they've got
some issues on defense. Lists a few out there, like what, well,
you can't continue to still have the mental break breakdowns
or mental errors at the pace that you're having so far.
You're talking about like coverage busts, coverage bus Okay, but
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I also when I say mental errors emmys is what
for short calleds can't happen in any aspect of the game,
whether it's against the pass or against the run. The Jaguars, though,
are doing a pretty good job against the run, I mean,
look at their rankings. Okay, doing a very good job.
But against the past, the number of breakdowns and a
number of times that we see people running open is
(07:44):
far too frequent. That's got to change, and especially against
a team like Green Bay who has a balanced attack
with one of the best running backs in the league
I think in Josh Jacobs, and then a quarterback who
is young but good, and then he's got some really
good weapons. So you better tighten up this week. As
far as eliminating some of the mental errors. And I
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think maybe the return of Foyer, Lukan, maybe the return
of Winger might help that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
There was some of that early in the game where
they had two off sides and a neutral zone infraction
on the same defensive possession, like two from Josh.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
That goes into the category of Emmy's as well. Yeah,
mental errors, you can't have them, no, And look, fortunately
the Patriots team is in a bit of a redevelopment stage, okay,
and wasn't exactly the most challenging football team on the
planet for this Jaguars team at Whimbley, so that helped
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a lot. But this is a little different level. Okay,
the next four games five games here, Okay, different level
teams than what you just saw in the New England Patriots.
And okay, I get it. People who love people say, wow,
you know this is the NFL, this is not college football.
Well yeah, but there's still different levels in the National
Football League. That's why they have records, Okay, that's why
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they keep track. Okay, there's teams that have been near
the bottom consistently for a while, and there's teams that
are in rebuild modes. And that's the Patriots, and so,
I mean, that was a good win because they needed
a win, but let's be honest, it wasn't against a
great football team, a team that had a rookie quarterback
that was making a second career start behind an offensive
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line that, oh, by the way, had had their seventh
different starting offensive line combination of the year in seven games.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And the right guard came out of the game during
the game too. I mean, so there was a lot
of that going on. They've played four different guys that
left tackle going in. They've had their issue, and there
still wasn't a lot of push on the quarterback, not
as much as you'd like, right, like to see in
a little bit more, like to see a little bit more,
particularly out of Josh and Trayvon for the entire game.
(09:59):
Defensive tackle continues to be a spot that's a little
bit worrisome, you know. The one thing that I liked
in the game was the changes that they made in
the back end seemed.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
To help some. They moved Savage to the safety spot,
Antonio Johnson went to more of just a dime type
of role. Jari and Jones took over the nickel position
from Savage because of Savage moving to safety, you know,
and I think that helped it eliminated some of the breakdowns,
but you still had some breakdowns in the middle, you know,
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And I think that the return of Foyer a Luken
will help that in a in a big way. Who
you take off the field at linebacker?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Me?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, No, the other person I'm on the show with, Yes,
you have to be the coach. Yesking, I'm taking Devin
Lloyd off. Okay, I said it earlier in the week.
I talked to you about it last week, and that
you know, he's he plays well against the run, he's athletic,
he's physical. But the problem and you hear Doug Peterson
(11:02):
talking about this term called I discipline. How many times
have we heard that term a lot? Okay? Yeah, And
I'm not saying it's directed directly at Devon, but I
think part of it is directed at devn and some
of the mistakes that he's made. And that's you know.
So the reality is is that you can have two
starting linebackers on the field when you have a nickel defense,
(11:23):
okay two, when you go to dime, you only have one.
Ventro Miller has earned a spot on this football team
he's earned the right to play more when Foyer comes back,
because the reality is, when Foyer comes back, he comes
back as a starter. He's not going to come back
as a rotational player. And oh, you know, we're gonna
(11:44):
work him into the lineup because we don't have a
depth charge. He's your starter now. However, the way he's
your best linebacker, the way they've played it this year,
they've taken him off the field, so which I don't
agree with. I don't think. I mean, look now, when
he's coming back, you know, you got to work him
back in, make sure the foot is okay. The plantar
fasciois that he has, which by the way, I've had
(12:06):
it back in the day, and extremely extremely painful, uncomfortable
at times. But there's a lot of things that they
can do, you know, the orthotics and taping, the food
and the treatment and everything that he's gotten that I
think will help him out. But when he comes back,
he's on field. He's on the field, and then you
got to maybe give him spells occasionally until you feel
(12:29):
good about the foot and you feel good about his
conditioning level. But was I a fan of rotating him
earlier in the season. Not so much. But the only
benefit I think that you are the one thing that
I would say that you benefit from that was because
he was rotating in. Ventra Miller was rotating in. Then
he got some experience, I think, which helped him once
he did finally get in the light on, and then
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he was out there and making plays. Ventro Miller, though,
JP watching a film of him, I mean, it's a joy.
I mean, I'm not saying he's Ray Lewis or anything
like that, but there hasn't been a linebacker here in
quite some time, going all the way back to Pause
that attacks the line of scrimmage, I know, and Pause
never even attacked it like that. And look, PA's a
(13:13):
great player. I'm not saying that. I don't want anybody
get confused. I'm not saying Ventrel Miller's at the level
of Pizzlusni. I'm not. Okay, that's a pretty lofty standard,
okay in Jaguars history, But just the way that Ventrel
attacks the line of scrimmage is amazing to watch. I
mean amazing to watch when he fires, he's attacking, when
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he diagnoses offensive linemen are off balance and they're getting
rocked because he is attacking and running backs are getting rocked.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It's a lot of fun to watch. We'll come back
in just a moment and hear from it. Coach Doug
Peterson on the opposing quarterback this week, Jordan Love and
what he has to offer.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
A little bit later. Jaguars offense.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Can they maintain what they did last week in the
ground game? Moving forward with Tank Bigsby And we'll see
a little later the injury report and see where things
are trending. Now Day two of practice heading into week
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Speaker 3 (14:30):
So that's that injury.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Kount Of calls a quarterback down, so he's in the pocket.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
He's seen getting the ball out of the more quick passing,
the screen game, things like that, you know, have.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Have helped him.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And of course they're run game, you know, and and
getting the ball you know, uh, you know, in Jacob's
hands and letting him go and they do a great
job with shifts motions and you know, sort of the
misdirection stuff too that you got to be prepared for
and then obviously the play action pass comes off that.
So you're just seeing I think a quarterback has kind
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of settled in quite frankly since the injury.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
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Jeff Lockman and the Yeah. The Packers with Jordan Love
now in eleven straight games, including the playoffs, has two
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or more touchdown passes. Pretty good, right, He's also thrown
a bunch of interceptions in that time. Fran Oh, yes
he has.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
He'll put it up. He's missed two games this year
and he's right around the top of the league with interceptions.
He's got eight of them. And so when you miss
two games and you have eight interceptions, that's not a
very good number. So he's going to give you some opportunities.
You got to take advantage of it. And if you
can do that, you would also kind of turn one
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of the numbers that hasn't been so good for your
defense around, which is the lack of takeaways, which I
think right now the Jaguars defense might be on a
record pace for a season low takeaways. What was the low.
I think it's nine a few years ago and that
was that was twenty one, wasn't it. I think it
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was twenty one. I think that's the low. We've got
to confirm that, but we're guessing that. But Jordan Loves
a good quarterback. What's amazing to me is that he's
getting ready to make his twenty fourth regular season start
and him and Trevor Lawrence are on the same pace
goal fifty five million dollars a year. Because remember, Jordan
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Love didn't do anything for a number of years because
he sat behind Aaron Rodgers and he didn't even have
a start. He had one start prior to last year,
one start prior to last year, and then he started
all the games last year, had a really good season.
His career record right now twelve and eleven, and he's
got an arm that can make all the throws. I
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don't think there's doubting any of his abilities there. But
he does make some poor decisions at times, which is
why you see the interception numbers, and you've got to
you've got to find a way to make the plays
when given the opportunity, because he's going to throw a
couple of them up under pressure. He will make a
poor decision, but you know there's a lot of quarterbacks
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that do that. Trevor's been really good in that category.
This year kind of been cleaned with the football, making
good decisions and protecting the football. Jordan Love's kind of
been the opposite. So if you can make him make
those mistakes and make those interceptions, you got a really
good chance. They spread it around a bunch of different
receivers as well. The Pickers have six players two or
(18:05):
more touchdowns this year, and it's tied for second most
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Buffalo has seven guys with two or more and it's
the tight end Tucker Craft and the wide receiver down
Tavian Wicks with four touchdowns each leading the way Virginia
guy by the way, Wicks, Oh see, yeah he's a
uva guy.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Cavalier, Yeah he's a uva guy. But I mean, look,
they get everybody involved, from Wicks to Watson to Dobbs
to Reid to Craft the tight end, even Melton who
is kind of way back on the depth chart at
wide receiver, but he does a good job of spreading
the ball round. This is This is the battle of
two head coaches that have you know, even though Doug
(18:45):
doesn't call the plays, Lafleur does. From what I understand,
this is a battle of two very good, offensive minded
football teams that have to be honest to fifty five
million dollars year quarterbacks. And I think it's gonna be
a really good football game. I think it's gonna be
one that that my popcorn will be ready for because
(19:06):
I think there's gonna be a lot of offensive firepower
in this game.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It is of the five highest paid quarterbacks by average salary.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Only Jordan Love has a winning record this year. Everybody
else is fine, kind of amazing, right, right, Dak Prescott's
in there. Three and three, two is one and one Trevor. Yeah, yeah,
it's right. All that money and you got, you got
not a lot of wins.
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Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know, we talk all this quarterback stuff, but let
me give some credit to the Packers offensive line because
they're pretty good. You know, like last week with the Patriots,
they're seventh different starting offensive line combination. The Packers offensive
line have started every week the same lineup, and that's
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a good unit. PFF ranks all of the offensive lines. Oh,
we love them, and I know that you're a big fan.
PFF has them as a top five offensive line. If
you evaluated the Jaguars offensive line over the last three weeks,
you might put them in the top five because they've
been doing a pretty good job as of late. Right
now they're down in the twenty somewhere. But that Packers
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offensive line is they're legit, they're good. I think it's
imperative that Josh and Trayvon have big games this week.
If you don't get big games from those two guys,
then it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I'll slipping around out of the Jaguars offense in their
matchup this week against the Packers defense that leads the
league with seventeen takeaways. Xavier McKinney had an interception in
each of the first five games this season. Tyre Alexander
is on the outside, and we'll tell you about it
all game long.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
He likes to talk, chirp whatever you want to call that.
Can this Jaguars offense run like they did last week?
It's that's the stake. Yes, yeah, I mean, look, if
you watch the film from last week against Houston, C J.
Stroud got hammered. He'd had a career low passing yards.
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I wrote the numbers down he had. He was ten
of twenty one for eighty six yards and a fifty
eight point eight rating, And then those numbers came when
Joe Mixon was running wild. I mean Joe Mixon. Joe
Mixon had a monster game. I got to just point
it out because I'm watching the film and I'm going
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this might be the best that I've seen Joe Mixon run.
He was that good and dicing up the Green Bay
Packers defense, which shocking, right that he's having a monster game,
and then the quarterback doesn't have at least a good game.
But the Packers the ability to pressure c. J. Stroud
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and to confuse the protection of the Houston Texans was impressive.
And that's what I worry about here in this game
is can the Packers confuse the protection of the Jaguars
offensive line, tight ends, running backs because they are all
part of the protection for Trevor Lawrence. Because we've seen
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when Trevor has had early pressure in games, he hasn't
been as sharp throughout the most the majority part of
the game. That's the challenge this week because they run
some cool pressures. Now they run. They don't play like
you know, they're not going back to Rex Ryan Zeros
and sending the house. They play a lot of zone
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blitz and the Texans had a hard time figuring out
who was coming and who is not and can we
block them all.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They rotated every time, and different guys are dropping out
and doing all that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, they did a really good job with that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
We seemed to watch for sure, and you know, challenge
and they were the way it worked last week. And
I get, yes, it's the Patriots, but they hit a
couple of shots when they were there down the field,
like there were a couple of big time throws from
Trevor in that game to you know, when they were
even before they started running the ball. That first the
drive after their down ten nothing, second and nine throw
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to Christian Kirk, which was a great catch by the
great catch, great throw, big moment, had to have that drive,
got it done.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And of course the deep ball later to Brian Thomas
right of the numbers, a great, great route, and the
one to Kirk just real quick on that one, real
small window because you know you had a you know,
a defender in front, defender behind, and so to be
able to kind of get that in there by Trevor,
that was a great throw, great catch as well. And
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then the deep ball to Brian Thomas and the Patriots
were playing what is called quarters coverage and not to
be overly football complicated. Quarters is for people to understand it,
just think of four quarters equals a dollar. There's four
guys in the back end playing twenty five percent zones
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in the background. Okay, And what Brian did which was
really cool, is that he attacked the one guy, which
was Gonzales in the quarters coverage and made sure that
the other defender said, oh, he's going over there for
Gonzales and is not even going to be in my area.
But then Brian, after he attacks Gonzales, kind of bends
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it back to the middle and that's really where there
should have been a little extra help. But Brian ran
a great route to keep all the attention away from
himself from that middle safety kind of player. And what
a catch. I mean, Gonzalez had his arm right across
across the bread basket of the hands of Brian Thomas
Junior and he still catches it. Amazing catch. And if
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teams are going to keep playing Brian Thomas like that,
they better start thinking about doubling him. I hope they don't.
I hope they don't, but keep playing him like that.
And if you're Doug Peterson and press Taylor. You got
to keep finding ways to get him singled and deep
because I mean, right now, is there a better deep
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receiver in the game.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Today's it's his third catch of fifty plus yards. It's
tired for the most in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, I mean, you go, I'm not trying to you know,
I don't want to get a speeding ticket here and
say that he's you know, the greatest things in sliced
bread ever. But he's really good. You're saying really good.
Don't suit him up for a teal jacket yet? Yes, okay, yeah,
but he's a He's a joy to watch. I can
tell you that. I mean, look, can you think of
any other player on this Jaguars roster that has given
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more energy to this team in game so far this year?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean, Tank Bigsby's getting there right when they has
some big runs like that and the breakaway run the
other week. I mean there's some of that, but consistently
it's been the down.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
To fit Brian shot to. I mean, he's Thomas. He
has woken this team up in a lot of cases.
And we always know that explosive plays are kind of
what leads to points in the NFL. Well, I mean,
he's an explosive play waiting to happen.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We've got plenty to discuss. Kayle Stevens will join us
to discuss at all, and we have to get into
this Jaguars running game a little bit more as well.
We'll hear from Tank Bigsby in just a little bit
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Speaker 3 (27:08):
I wouldn't sound surprised myself. I mean, I know my abilities.
I know what I'm capable of.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I just try to come out and be the
best I can be and do what I know I
can do. SPTJ Brian Thomas, Junior Jaguars Wide Receiver.
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Speaker 3 (28:00):
You do everything around here. Let's yes, and we thank
you for it.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I'm good You're back here so I don't have to
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Speaker 3 (28:08):
Well, thank you for all your efforts. The last few weeks.
It's been a lot of moving parts, happy to help
it works.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Teams back, teams winning or won a game one yes,
felt okay in.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
The locker room. Last couple of days.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
It has, and I think obviously coming back from London,
they absolutely needed that win. To get on that plane
without a win was going to be not great for anybody,
So that's definitely given them a little life. I think
the way that they did it was big because to
fall down ten, here we go again, what we've seen
all season long, To fight back a little bit and
then have the offense have so much success was impressive
(28:43):
to me. We finally saw some changes defensively, which I
think a lot of people were hoping would happen a
little bit sooner. But we're finally the team's getting a
little healthy. We're seeing some of those changes on the
back end. There more players coming back to help out
with that, so potentially this week as well. So I
think it's all trending positive. Of course, you know, week
to week, it's just a lot easier to work on
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stuff when you get a win the week before.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
In a big way. I just you know, it's like
I remember when I was in high school and playing
at Parkview High School, we had a head coach who
was a little bit of a taskmaster, you know, a
little stern, you know, and if you lost, you weren't
allowed to talk on the bus ride home, you know,
So like when you have a long trip, I mean, look,
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you know that's a long flight to have with you know,
nobody talking on the way home, even though they're allowed
to talk. But I mean it's still it's that mindset
when you have a game that you lose, you've got
to kind of you got to soak in it for
that long on a plane ride back. And so I'm
glad they got the win. If you had lost the Patriots,
I think things would have gotten very loud. I mean,
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I mean really loud loud anyway.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
But yeah, well not just outside inside it loud.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
It would have been loud, really loud. And the reality
is is that you're kind of back where you 're
at prior to that game if you lose this one.
I mean, that's the reality.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It is because they've dug themselves into such a deep
poll at this point.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That's right, And this is a good football team in
a stretch that has a lot of good football teams,
and this football team is going to challenge your defense,
so your offense needs to be on point.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
That's wrong, up with it? I think got to win
a shootout at this point. I don't know how much
you're gonna be able to show slow green Bay down.
So hopefully what we saw last week from the offense
carry that over, score a lot of points and have
the ball last. Right.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I think it's going to take I mean thirty points
to win this game. Boy, maybe thirty five? Yeah, I
mean I think that's where it's going to be a
lot of points. Yeah, I mean, what is green Bay
average in twenty seven? A lot? What are we giving
up the game a lot, a whole lot, so it's
(30:56):
kind of interesting. And that you have, Okay, the Jaguars offense,
which is a strong suit, okay against Packers defense that's
getting a ton of takeaways that you think, okay, you
think you feel good about the Jaguars chances there, but
at the same time you're going, well, well, waiting minute,
Green Bay's been pretty good, and then the Jaguars defensive matchup,
(31:19):
you don't feel good about it all.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I don't feel great.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Do you feel good about any part of the Jaguars
defense versus the Packers offense matchup? I mean not on paper, No,
I don't. I mean, it's just okay, let's put the
papers away in your heart defense, in your heart of
your head. Do you feel good about that? It's not
(31:44):
a great match yeah. I mean, even if you say that,
I think we're hopeful.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yes, and that's a good place to be.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, we're hopeful that. Okay, Tyson second game back, Foyer
coming back, maybe a winger, not sure, you know, hopefully
Foyers back, Maybe end up having a couple of takeaways
as a defense, but right now you haven't been getting
them three all year.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Two on defense right, Jordan Love will give you a chance,
though I think similarly to the Patriots, Drake May gave
a couple of shots he dropped probably at least two,
so the opportunity will be there. I think Trevor's been
really good smart with the football this year. I don't
think we give him enough credit for that because fumbling
was a probably Jim turnovers were a problem for him. Interceptions,
He's only turned the ball over a couple of times,
(32:28):
so he's been smart with the football. If the defense
can get off the field some of those times, I
think that gives you more of a chance to get
the offense going.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And another part of this offense, certainly last week, they
ran the ball in the second half, they had that
long stretch of plays where they ran seventeen in a row,
and Tank Bigsby did not put the ball on the deck.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Last week in the running game, he dropped a pass.
That was one. But when are we going to get
past the point of talking about that one until he
consistently doesn't do it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
It's gonna take a while, right, don't have the same thing.
Right one year he's fumbling the ball, next year, didn't
fumble it at all. He didn't say it, and then
we won this year, fumbles the football again, so it's
a topic.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Also, it's not far. I mean Tank didn't do last game,
but he's done it within last month, so you know,
sometimes it doesn't hurt him because it's on a kick
return and they get.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
The ball back or whatever may.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
But that's coaches noticed that that's still ball security.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That's still a problem, and that's what the opponents are coaching.
When like the last game against the Patriots, when you
actually watch the game and you watch the film, you
could see that the defenders were treating him and Durness
Johnson differently a little bit. I'm seriously you, I mean,
they were really going after the ball when Tank had
it in his possession versus like a Durness Johnson. And
(33:42):
that's just that's coaching awareness by you know, the opposing team.
Because the fact of the matter is is that he
has put the ball on the carpet a few times.
He's lost four fumbles in his career, and that was
I think when he had like ninety touches and that's
a pretty high rate. He's obviously had some more touches
and hasn't lost it since then, but he's put it
(34:04):
on the ground, you know, just been fortunate enough to
get that ball back. And so I think, to answer
my own question, when do you stop talking about that?
Is maybe when he has a season that finishes and
you're not seeing that anymore.
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Speaker 3 (34:44):
Back at Home Base right at Strings.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
We are back. We've been gone for a while Hurricane
and then we were in London. So we are now
back at Strings. Jeff can get his favorite meal of
the week, and then we're gonna get to talk to
some players. Ventrel Miller's going to be with us this week.
Oh cool, Yeah, absolutely, He's just such a character. It's
great his I don't know if you guys watched sounds
of the game yet, but it's out, and he did
(35:08):
one of the pregame speeches in the huddles and I
didn't understand all of what he was saying. I was
very excited. I feel like people would run through a
wall for him.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You know, every week when I watched the film, and
Kay's seen my list before, and I've shown some of
the plays to her and JP, you've seen my list before.
You know, when I watched the film, I'll write down
the play number and then a description. Sometimes good, some
things are good, sometimes things are bad. Well with Ventro,
much like with Brenton Strange, over the last couple of weeks,
I had a pretty good section of him every week
(35:38):
of how good he's been. This week not so much
with him, but I had a section on Ventrel and
there were like six plays that he had in this
game that I'm just were to me, wow moments. I mean,
where he's attacking, he's running through the tackles. I mean,
he's a special talent. And for a young player that
(36:00):
how he reacts in such a quick fashion and then
attacks where he needs to attack without hesitation is very rare.
It's very rare. Sometimes it takes time and time on
task to feel or gain that confidence to attack it
like that. But he's rolling, man, he is rolling. Fun
(36:21):
to watch TFLs attacking guards. He's literally he's hitting guards
that are pulling around into a hole for him before
they even can get square in a hole. That's how
fast he's getting there. He's hitting them when they're in
a weak position. That's fast. That's playing downhill.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Love that Jaguars have invested in that position over the
last few years a lot.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
But here's the other thing we keep forgetting. He tour
his achilles last year, right, I mean we're talking about
a guy who's coming back from a torn achilles. I mean,
do you guys see any signs.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Of You'd see no hesitation, you'd see no side of it.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Now, No, that's impressive alone by itself, just being out there.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
So and in that capacity essentially a rookie. Yes, he
didn't play last year.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
No, he didn't play last year at all. I mean
went down in the preseason. And now what you're talking about,
you know, the sounds of the game, he's getting the
team amped up before the game and he's a second
year player, is really a rookie. I mean that's pretty
(37:31):
cool to see, you know, young player kind of take
that role. But I think what it also says is
that there hasn't been enough of that coming from elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, there's some other veteran guys around here that that's
kind of not how they roll.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Well, I mean some guys have it, some guys don't,
but take it. You got to have some of that.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
On the field too. We've been saying it for weeks.
Playmakers got to make plays. So if you want to
lead by example and you don't want to yell at everybody,
you got to do that too. Haven't seen that from everybody.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Who's that in the Jags broadcasting department?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
You thinkers make plays?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
No, no, no, the one to like shake everybody up
and do like the breakdown.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Who you think would that be? M you? I think you? Yeah,
I think yeah. I don't know. I think it goes on.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I was gonna say, oh, yeah, imagine you imagine John
Oser trying to break down the group.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yes, I would run through a wall for John Oser.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Absolutely, Johnny Ozone. But you know what, though I love them,
the stuff that he writes on Jaguars dot com is money.
It's almost like his job gold. I've said this before,
when when First of all, I've known John for a
long time back when he has ponytail.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Great, I need more photos of that.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
By the way, wow uh yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Jags fans out there, if you want to at me
on Twitter, I would love to see John Oser's ponytail photos.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
And when he has when he left here, he I
know he was in Indianapolis for a while, and because
the Colts were in the division, I would in the
The Coults at the time had a PR director that
was horrendous, horrendous, you know. I mean, maybe their PR
director wasn't horrendous, but their weekly game release was horrendous.
(39:22):
It was literally like a It's like an accountant's book.
Look at all what Peyton Manning's done. He's done this,
and he's done that.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
What else?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
My point is is that the whole reason for having
a weekly release is to give the nuggets to all
the broadcast departments and media members so that they don't
have to decipher all of these numbers. Give them nuggets
cliff notes, give them the cliff notes version. What does
it have to do with Okay, because you didn't get
(39:55):
that the Cults press release, you had to read John
at wherever he was whether it was at the newspaper
or Colts dot com. And if you read his stuff,
you got every main storyline that you needed to get
about the Colts. And it's the same thing with the Jaguars.
And and I'm not saying that because I've known John
long time and I didn't. I definitely did not like
(40:17):
the Ponytail. But he is a talented writer who does
a great job. I guess no, Joe, he didn't like
yours either. He did not pay me for this at
all either. Okay, that we know of, he did not.
Jaguars h's too cheap to pay anybody. Oh wow, you
guys know that.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
No comment at Jaguars All Access Television tonight seven o'clock,
Fox thirty strings, Ventrel Miller.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Ky Downy Stevens, Brent Martineau, Yeah, who's that guy? And
Jeff Flagerman TV TV. Martina was in London he was Yeah.
I saw him Stewart, I saw they were by the way.
Did you go to the Fulham game? I did? Did
you go to the Fulham You didn't go? Awesome?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
The new Riverside stands incredible, awesome. We sat in there
like the first row of the upper deck. It was
all right over the field. Amazing. It was fantastic. They
got smoked unfortunately three to one. It was one nil
and then they scored three straight.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah. Yeah, left fine, Yeah, I left five minutes. But
the new stands nice. Yeah, that's pretty pretty cool. All right,
let's come back. Kai, Thanks appreciate it. You have a
great one tonight. That's Kai Stevens, who's been busy.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Carrying what I can the last few weeks. Very nice,
very nice. Back with more injury report when we return.
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Speaker 3 (41:49):
This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Yeah, you know it come over.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
You know we all got team by the time we
all got to sit there in the grove and look
at each other's face all.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Day, you know, all day. Yeah man, I'm hollday. So
you know, it's an energy thing. I feel like it
came back.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We had a great pratacy today, but we just got
to take care of the little things and go out
and insecure high love Oh.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Of is cartavious tank Bigsby in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
This week, Jaguars running back Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour,
JP Shatterwick floggingman our thanks to Kay Stevens joining us
each and every week. Yeah, Tank Bigsby another one hundred
yard game, two in the last three weeks, of course,
and put together a fantastic effort last time out at
Wembley and hoping to carry that over this week. We'll
(42:44):
see the status of Travis et and Junior again. We'll
see what happens with that ham string. But ham strings
are not good for running backs.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
No, no, yeah, so look very very good that they
have the running back room that they do. And the
emergence obviously of Bigsby has been huge for this offense.
And when each end gets back. You know, there's been
(43:14):
so many questions that Doug, I think in the last
couple of weeks really about, you know, does Bigsby become
your starter? And I've been kind of a little bit
I don't want to say myths, but confused by the
question because you know, look, each guy does different things well,
and you can have two running backs that essentially are
co starters. It's okay, well, I mean one's going to
(43:37):
be on the field the first play of the game
exactly your starter, and and the other part of that
that I want to say, I'm mythed By. I'm also
kind of surprised by the answer and that Doug says, well, hey, look,
you can't lose your job because of injury. It happens
all the time in the National Football League. Guys lose
their jobs because of injury all the time. Happens Drew
(44:02):
Bledsoe lost his job because of an injury, and then
Tom Brady came in and then never came out. Trent Green,
Trent Green, Saint Thwait with Kurt Warner. Okay, it happens,
and so I wish that Doug had said, hey, look,
we really kind of have two starters here, and this
it's all about team, and you know, we're gonna do
(44:23):
what's best for the team.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I mean, in reality, when Travis is back, he's gonna
play something, and they're both gonna play like they did before.
I don't know exactly the percentage of snaps they're both
gonna be on the field certain situations Travis is really
good for and the Tanks getting better at.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
All of it. Tank's still not the receiver though, correct. Okay,
you're saying he's getting better at all of it. I
don't say not all of it. He didn't he dropped
the ball last week. He dropped the ball on what
would have been maybe a fifty yard gain on a screen.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Because that in theory, that gives the defense a queue,
Well what's coming if he's out on the field, right.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
I mean, well, yeah, yes, and no, I mean yeah,
I mean you got you. But you have to play
to the strengths of the running back. I mean you
can still kind of confuse defense and it's not always
going to be a run in Tank Big Toby. You know,
when he's in on the field, you can still pass it.
Play action is a huge part of that. But but yeah,
I just you really have two really good, starting caliber
(45:22):
running backs. Etn is a is an excellent, excellent receiver
out of the backfield, catches balls that most running backs
would not catch. And so that's a really good thing.
And let give credit to de Ernest Johnson. He had
a solid game, solid game. He kind of took over
that role that Etn kind of had filled. But more
(45:44):
than that too, he he does a really good job
in the running game, you know, the straight running game.
Given Tank blows and but Tank's got great endurance too
to be able to stay on the field for the
number of possessions, you know, twenty six carries. I mean
you talking about a workhorse effort that he really didn't
look tired or slow on any of those snaps.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Jernie Johnson's path is pretty fascinating to an undrafted guy
and then went fishing for an offseason and then signed
in the UFL and with the.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Team that the league folded, and.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Then got latched on with a team and kind of
just hung around and built his career up and he's
still at it, so he's been good player things. Time
now for the injury report presented by Baptist Health, changing
healthcare for good, and let's start with your Jacksonville Jaguars
and Eric Armstead defensive end with a shoulder injury limited
(46:39):
both days in practice, Gabe Davis battling a knee issue,
limited both days. Evan Ingram with a hamstring injury limited Wednesday,
full today, Travis et and junior hamstring limited both days,
says he O to Maywoe defensive tackle calf injury limited
both days. Cam Robinson in concussion protocol, did not practice Wednesday,
(47:00):
limited today. That's a step in the right direction. We'll
see what happens tomorrow, and if they clear him by
the weekend, we'll get to this conversation in a moment.
Fo Yer looking with a foot issue limited both days.
His windows open of course. Andrew Winger knee injury limited
both days. Now, if Cam Robinson clears protocol, does he
(47:20):
get back in the lineup at left tackle?
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Is Walker Little done enough to play and have it?
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Well?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
It was an injury, right, so he can't lose his
job because of an injury. I don't know. Uh, I'm
going to go back and I'm say this again. People
lose their jobs to injury all the time, and it
doesn't mean that you're going to lose it for the
long term. I think you also can be a little
bit cautious with a player coming back from the concussion
protocol to maybe, you know, hold him out and even
(47:48):
if he clears, let's say he clears the protocol and
he's eligible to come back, you say, hey, look, let's
just make sure that we get him back completely and
we can play Walker Little this week, because reality is
Walker Little played his rear end off. If he's cleared
then he's cleared that starting left tackle here since twenty seventeen.
(48:08):
If he's cleared and doesn't play, that's a massive story.
I don't know about massive. I mean it's it's a
it's a story. It's a story. Yeah, but I don't
know about massive. It's a big deal to me. Yeah,
Guy's been the story left tackles for two players, and
I think it would be all. I think it would
also become a bit of a story if he's cleared
because of what Doug said about the running back position
(48:31):
with ETN and all that. Yeah, to that extent. But
the fact is is that Walker Little played very well.
Was there a great player on the other side of
him that he had to block? No. But the one
thing that Walker did which was really good in the game,
and Biselli thinks he had the highest grade of any
(48:53):
offensive lineman, and I would not disagree with that. The
thing that he did the best was that how he's
strained in the running game, how he finished and he's
got his footwork was really solid. And that's always been
a little bit better than Cam. And the part that
I think that Cam's lost a little bit is some
of the finish that he used to have in the
(49:15):
run game. But the performance of Walker, you could argue
that it warrants another start, and if the guy has
to be put into the reserve lineup, maybe given another
week to get completely healthy with that concussion. Maybe, But
(49:37):
I agree it's going to be a story. It is
if he's cleared. If he's clear, If he's cleared, we'll
see Walker starts. Dennis the story because I mean for
a couple of different reasons, because he's been the left
tackle here for a while. Number two because of an injury.
We'll see them. By the way he got he got
rocked a couple of times. Yeah, you know, in the
(49:57):
first five plays of the game, he took a hit
from the linebacker and then a defensive lineman and you
could just really see the violence of it, and I'm
sure it didn't feel very good.
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