March 28, 2025 • 50 mins
Mixed Martial Artist and Former Jaguars DE Austen Lane joins J.P. Shadrick on Happy Hour as a special guest to weigh in on the team's free agency haul and their pre-draft process so far. This and more on Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Dream Finders Homes.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is Thursday, March twenty seventh. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Chack Real, Welcome man. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. Our
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Who've got a busy hour ahead. Free agency impacts will
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Jeff Logoman out this week. But the guy with us
today is somebody you know you'll love.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
A fifth round pick of the Jaguars back in twenty
ten out of Murray State.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Three years with the.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Jags, one year or the Lions one year with the Bears.
Retired from the NFL, but not done with sports, moved
into a career and mixed martial arts. He's worked his
way up in the UFC thirteen and six as a pro,
eleven wins by knockout for Austin Lane.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good afternoon, How are you good afternoon man? I'm doing great.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm not interested in a Paddington Bear, so I'm sorry
about that. And yeah, still doing the whole MMA thing
like this is what happens when you hate golf. You
have to find other hobbies to do. And thankfully mma
and fighting kind of went hand in hand with football,
so it worked out pretty well. We're in the media world.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Here in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I was told to say the Brenton Austin Show five times.
The first time I said it today on Twitter, I said,
what is the Brenton Austin Show?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So that's one out of the way. That's one out
of the way.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I probably have to mention a couple of times, my
sou But Brent's gonna learn what a what freelancer means
really quick here as I'm on this show right now.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and hey, if the check keeps coming.
They do all you can. There's some doubt about that. Yeah,
good to have you here, though.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's uh.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We get to hang out on a practice field some
when you're around. But I don't know if we've ever
actually done a program together.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well, I mean, JP, this has been a long time coming.
As someone who put in many hours at the you know,
drinking establishments around Jacksonville, it's only right come on Happy
Hour now.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh, I thought you're pointing with.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Me trying to send the show in general Happy Hour
unsweet and nice sea.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I'm in bed by nine there every night. I am
now too. But back in the day, though, you.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Know, it was one thing that may or may not
be who knows. Of course, you're you're finding you with
the Jags was twenty twelve. That was my first year
with the Jaguars. We go back that far at least. Uh,
we've got a free agent talk coming up. We'll get
to some of these mock drafts coming up. A former
teammate of yours is getting another honor in college. I
don't know if you guys talked about this today or not.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
We did not know.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I think our producer needs to do a better job
of getting our stories right here?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
What do we got.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Justin Blackman was inducted in the College Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, fairly recently.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, we'll be inducted into the Oklahoma State Ring of Honor.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Good for him, how about that?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Justin listen man, I understand that here in Jacksonville didn't
have the career that he wanted. But in terms, there's
a locker room guy, just a guy that you know,
you see every single day, like I did, one of
the most first of all humble and most salts of
the earth dudes you're ever gonna meet, you know. I
remember watching him in practice thinking like, this guy's gonna
be something special, you know. And then obviously, boy it
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stood out too. Yeah, it stood out the time. Yeah,
and just naturally gifted, you know. And I think Cecil
Schwartz told me this one time, is that there's just
some guys where when you're running those routes, you know
that they try really hard and they have their cuts
and everything, and then they exhaust themselves to try to
get open. And then there's some guys that you see
wide receiver where it's natural, like where they're just meant
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to do it. And Justin Blackman man, if you remember
him playing and obviously in practice too, it just everything
came so natural to him, and just it's a shame
that we didn't to see more of it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And if it was within five feet of him, he's
catching the football. I mean catch radius was insane. Yeah,
without a doubt, and I always was.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And listen, I mean a fun fact about Justin Blackman too,
is that guy could put more dip in his lip
than anybody had ever seen before.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Man talk, that's what you expect. I'm from Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We would do a little bit there too, But I mean,
this dude like he always had one ready to go.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Man. Yeah, absolutely, And there.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Was some obviously some big moments on the field, but
unfortunately just didn't last long enough here. But congratulations to
Justin who was at the Hall of Fame induction ceremony
and I guess that was last fall and he'll be
in the Ring of Honor at Oklahoma State coming up.
All right, let's uh, free agency is not done. It's
never done. It only begins at the start of the
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league year. The Jags were active right there out of
the gate in the negotiation period this year, and they've
been really quiet after that. One signing after those first
wave of free agency. So now ten new players have
come in. So the question for you, Austin, Yes, a couple.
I got a lot of questions for you. What free
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agent will have the greatest impact on this team in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So it's funny because we talk about free agency and
it always seems like the team that spends the most
money is going to the super Bowl, right, Like that's
the that's how fan bases want to treat Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Right, Fortunately, we know that's not how that works. That's
not how it works sometimes.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But to answer your question of who I think is
going to have the biggest impact, you know, I think
a guy that you got to keep in mind here
is Jordan Lewis for a couple of reasons, the corner
from the cow the corner from the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
When he was brought in here, the first thing that
people were saying is what happens to Jerry and Jones now?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
And that's a legitimate question because this guy is a
slot specialist. He's a nickel specialist, plays on the inside
a little bit a lot where Jerry Jones likes to play,
a lot where Jerry Jones last year had some success,
So how are they going to work together?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Do you move Jerry Joe on the outside. That could
be a possibility.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
But I think when we talk about Jordan Lewis of
what he brings to this team, obviously it's the presence
of being that nickel corner, but also it's leadership and
also its attitude. And that's why I think this defense
needs more than anything going to this new season is
more attitude and just more kind of having that dog
in you if you will. You know, it's one thing
if you're a defense and you're you're dominating every single play,
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you can have a bunch of choir boys out there.
It's fine, but when you face adversity, you need those
guys that had that dog in him to kind of
come out and say, hey, we got to do better.
And I think Jordan Lewis can do that. And he's
a dog on the field, but also professional off the field.
He was voted i think in twenty twenty four he
was voted like mister cowboy, like mister good guy, whatever
you want to call it in the Dallas media. So
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he knows how Yeah, so he knows how to be
a professional outside of the field obviously, but when he
gets up between those white lines, he's a dog.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And he said in his press conference he's not afraid
to chirp, and when he gets out there, he's gonna
let the other guy know he out there too.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That can be a good thing if it's goes the
right way and helps you play better.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Right, I mean, it's a good thing if you can
back it up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And obviously he's been in the league for a while now,
he's well respected amongst his peers, So I think, like,
if you're willing to chart man, you're willing to kind
of put on the line.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You got to back it up. And I think Jordan
Lewis backs it up.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Another big piece of this free agency, all the signings,
at least as a whole, is the I mean statement
I think they made about the offensive line for offensive
line signings so far in free agency.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
They're gonna do some more work on this at some point,
if it's not free agency than in the draft, because
that was a focal point of a lot of contention
for this team in the last couple of.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Years, especially in short yardage.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Unable to get things done inconsistency in the passing game
started there a lot of times. They've had some injuries
up there, some older players. Well, now you're gonna bring
some new faces in here. It's gonna make some players uncomfortable,
I'm sure, but you gotta get better.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
There's gonna be some competition, right, and competition always brings
out the best in everybody, or if you can't handle it,
it's to the wayside, you go. I think we look
at what Liam Cohen's trying to do here. You talk
about a guy in Tampa Bay last year who had
a very dynamic offense, was predicated on the run game,
but also had Mike Evans and Chris Godwin helps. Both
those guys went down for a little bit though, Chris
Godwin for the year, Mike Evans for a couple of weeks.
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So what was the calling card of the Tampa Buccaneers.
It was Bucky irving in the ability to run the
football with those big guys up front. So I think
Liam Cohen is obviously a huge fan of offensive lineman
guys that I think you can kind of have swing
tackles and all of that, and it's something to watch
for in the draft as well, because keeping Trevor Lawrence
upright being able to run the football, are gonna be
two keys to the Draguars this up and coming season.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Fifty million a year. You better keep him up right.
You better. What happened Andrew Luck? Right? I mean he
he was so beat up at Indy. You know what,
I'm out of here. I can't do this. Yeah, you
don't want that to happen? No, I mean, well, I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
When we played against the Colts, when I was still
play we wanted that to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Oh yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Because when you go from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck Like,
it wasn't a good time.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
JP. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Like we had Manning, you know Colin, every one of
our plays on defense out and then you have you know,
the golden child that is Andrew Luck Like we just
wanted to break sometimes from great quarterback play from the Colts.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah. They're just now starting to get out of that.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, I mean where is this when I was playing, right, Richardson,
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Now they got competitions and old guys coming Daniel Jones,
and I mean that's a different world these days, you know.
And then of course the other free agent sign is
a couple of tight ends Johnny Munt Hunter Long from
the Vikings and Rams, guys who know the offensive idea.
And that's a question we won't really have an answer
to until they start playing I think, real football games.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But what is this really?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
What will this really be modeled after? More kind of
Udinsky's Minnesota or Liam Cohen's Buccaneers and Rams days, a mix.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Of both probably, But what does that even mean? And
how do you figure that out? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You know, I mean when I think of up great offenses,
you think of Sean McVay, right, and you look at
what they did in Tampa Bay last year, and there's
some similarities. Like we think of Sean mcvay's offense, we
think of all right, it's built behind Matthew Stafford and
Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua. They can run the football too, right,
And Kylin Williams for the Ram is one of the
most underrated running backs in all of football. So I
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think when you look at what the goal is gonna
be here, you you have a guy and well you
have two guys. You have Tank Bigsby, you have Travis
etn two guys that can do different types of things
but can be pretty dynamic in offenses. I think it's
gonna be predicated off of running football first and passing second.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Okay, yeah, they need to do that. You gotta go
do it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And keep in mind, I'm very old school, right, so
I always think like that, the game's won and lost
in the trenches, right, Like my cost on the other show,
Brett Martineau gets so tired of me saying this, But
the game is won and lost up front, right, So
if you can run the football, you got a pretty
good chance of winning.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Just Saequon Barkley and the Eagles this year. Absolutely, Why
would he get tired of that? By the way, Brent
knows better than that. I mean, I just he knows
who's running the show over here. By the way, I
mean the new.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
EVP over here. Yeah, you better believe it. Many. I
think me and Tony have a lot of things in common.
I'm not gonna run a marathon anytime soon like he
did back in the day. But I think when it
comes to winning football games, it is done in the
trunk hold.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
On we Bury the lead. Tony ran a marathon.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Didn't Tony Paseli run a marathon like way back in
the day when he rere tired.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I'm pretty sure he did. Maybe he did.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't think he can anymore because the second hip
replacement in the way of that.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
No, but I'm pretty sure back in the day Tony
Baseli ran a marathon.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
If I'm not mistaken, I can see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
this is a long time. I'm getting off on a
tamil coming. Well, we'll get plenty of ahead here.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Early in my time, I challenged him to the five
k in the stadium. It's like almost a bit for
the what we're gonna cover it anyway, Yeah, I challenge
and I was running a little bit at the time,
you know, and I've I was with him for like
a half a mile, and then I was not. He
was just gone, isn't it. I was like, Oh, got
that long stretch. He's not some fat offensive line No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
He's an athlete as well. Now he beat me by
like six minutes or something.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
So one of my best twenty best selling stories I've
ever had was so back in this was nineteen ninety five,
I believe, is when they went to Stevens Point, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yes, that's where where my daycare was.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
So as part of the little daycare field trip in
the summertime, I got to go check out one of
the very first Jaguars practices at UW Stevens Point. Now,
you know, I had my bike and everything, and I
got a program and lo and behold who's some of
the guys that signed it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, Tony Bassli was one of them. Still still have
that program.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So I get drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars and you know,
I think ten ten xcel, you know, they want to
talk to me and everything, and Tony's not doing the
show there, and I go, hey, man, we've actually met
Because he's like, nice to meet you, Austin.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I go, well, surprising, we've.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Actually met before when I was in daycare back in
ninety five.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You actually signed my program.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And then obviously he had a few choice words for me,
saying like hey, thanks for making me feel super old
and everything. But yeah, that was that was the first
time I met Tony when I was man, I must
have been the first second.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Grade or something. Standing.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, there's still lower told of that training camp of
being like the hottest place on the planet.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I felt like you.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Left Jacksonville to try to get out of the out
of the out of the warm, and you came to
like maybe the hottest place in the United States that
year in Steven's Point, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Now, do you have that program framed on the wall?
Like do you have it like there's a whole just
display Jaguars part of your Jaguar room. Do you have
it like a Jaguar room? How does this work? I mean,
I don't know you played it for three years. I
don't know an NFL room.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I mean so like he was talking like my room
back at my mom's house. Oh no, no, I mean
you have like I have, like a hangout room. Yeah,
I mean it's definitely a hangout room. There is football
stuff there, and the Jaguars are my team obviously, Like
I'm not going to claim the Bears, not going to
claim the Lions. Had a short stint with the Chiefs,
which would be nice to claim them, but no, I'm
I'm gonna claim the Jaguars all day. So there's some
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there's some Jaguar stuff hanging out the program though that
I got signed for training camp. I think it's still
my mom's house. Okay, I'm sure she's scrappedook that probably
as moms do.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
That's what they a lot of times do. Without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
We've got plenty ahead. We'll return in just a moment
and get into some of these mock drafts.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
This mock draft season.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
It is mock drafts. All about mock draft Sea. We
are suckers for mock drafts. On our show JP for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well, we're gonna hit some of the guys that have
been mocked okay to the Jaguars and hit your thoughts
on a lot of those. We're on ten ten xl
AM Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube with Austin Lane.
I'm JP Shaddrick and this is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, we got ten picks in this year's draft.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
We're gonna have to have some spots that are actually
open for them to insert.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
So you know, if you add a veteran at this
point could be just standing in the way.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We're going to allow these rookies to you know.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Get a chance to get out on the field and
help us this coming fall.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
James Gladstone, the Jaguars general manager, earlier in the right
after the start Free agency and welcome back. It's Jaguars
Happy Hour in Jaguars Football is presented by Fresh from Florida.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It's always in season.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
JP Shadwick, Jeff logam An out today, Austin Lane is in.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I can't talk hunting or fishing. I'm sorry, Thank goodness,
I'm kidding. Of course, Saturday morning. Be careful.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, he'll be back with his next so he's not
out for good. No, no, no, he's in next week.
What do you think of James Gladstone first impressions?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Man. He comes from obviously in the Rams that have
done things different ways. They've they've built through free agency
and had success. They built through the draft and had success.
They know, I feel like, and this is just him,
but that that whole team in general. They know how
to find gems in later rounds, which is I think
what you need to be successful. Obviously, he's very young,
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he's kind of coming into his own now as a GM.
I'm very curious to see how this first draft goes
for him. But I think there's a lot to like
about him. Thirty four years old. Yeah wow, yeah, yeah,
I mean i'd be like me off the street. A
couple of years ago, like, hey, you want to be
a GM Now, I'm all set. I'll just keep doing
mock drafts.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, so as he said there, and that was, you know,
in reference to a question I believe about, hey, are
you gonna sign? Is there more free agency coming? Especially
like up front? Maybe we'll see, but at some point
the rookie is gonna have to play. So with all
these draft picks they have coming up, you're gonna draft
some of these guys pretty high. They got to get
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them out on the field somehow too. So let's go through.
You know, it's mock draft season. It is mock draft season.
Is this your favorite season? Mock draft season?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
It's one of them. I'm not gonna lie. I mean,
I think Christmas is still up there, but this is
it's like one A, one B.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You know, if you've been good or bad. It depends
if you've been good or bad. Thanksgivings up there as well.
But when we talk about mock draft season, I appreciate
it because I feel like everyone's got a voice, and
Ruin's mock draft is the.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Best mock draft. Where is it?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I mean, people are gonna tell you that, you know
what I'm saying, like with Gladstone, Like.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, in Gladstone, we trust in everything.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
But there's like thirty people right now on Twitter posting
their mock draft saying, Hey, mister Gladstone, please look at
my mock draft.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's what you have to do. James.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I get you're a genius and all, but I've got
a mock draft for you.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, I mean, I know you've been you know, you
earned your stripes and everything. You kind of like this,
you know, you're kind of like this wonder kin when
it comes to a GM. But blame me when I
say I've watched like two YouTube videos of highlights of
these players and I know.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
What I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, let's beget this one because obviously the Jaguars have
the fifth pick. Yeah, you can't really control everything like
they've been able to do a couple of years in
a row in the past. Let's what would you really
want at five? If if all was fair and all
is clear, what are you going after at five?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Austin?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
So if I'm going at five, you have to ask
yourself the question of what is the biggest need. Now
you have a guy in Travis Hunter who's kind of
like the that's like the sexy pick right, Like that's like, hey,
this is gonna Jersey sales. I mean, the dude's humble
is all get up, which makes zero sense to me
because you're supposed to be like an all Pro at
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wide receiver and an all Pro at cornerback, like two
ego driven positions, and you're the most humble guy of
all time. Like if that was me, I'd be pulling
up in three Brinks trucks when training camp started. But
like Travis Hunter, for whatever reason, man that this dude,
like he's got a great head on his shoulders and
I like him a lot. Depends where you want to
play him. But I think if you look at what
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this team needs, you talk about a guy in Campanelli
who comes from green Bay. If you look at what
green Bay does, and he comes from the coaching tree
of Vicvangeo. He was with him in Miami. I played
for Vic. The cool thing about playing for Vick is
is as a defensive lineman. Some defensive playbooks were like
you know, an Encyclopedia Britannica or like a phone book
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from New York, and some playbooks were like just like
a like an I hot menu, just pretty pretty low key.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
For young kids listening a full book where all the
numbers for people were listening.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, I forget we're streaming as well. Sorry, man, this
isn't the radio. Yes, yes, a very thick book nonetheless anymore. Yes,
but when we talk about Fangio's defense from a defensive
line standpoint, it was very simplistic because he always believed
in rushing four and I think Campanelli believes in that
same thing. If you look at last year where the
Jaguars had some problems, you have two great book nds
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in Trayvon Walker and Joshua Hines Allen. The issue was
it was the interior push, right, And if the plan
is to rush four and you're not gonna blitz a lot,
and you're gonna rely on your secondary to kind of
different coverages and confuse. You know that it's this set
offense you're going against, you gotta have interior pass rush.
And that's where I think Mason Graham comes into play.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
He he's got everything you want. Yeah, may not have
the height, but he's got everything else you want. And
then you may not need that in an interior defensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Right. I mean Aaron Donald was not a tall guy either.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Aaron Donald was six to one, you know, and that
was kind of his biggest knock coming out of Pittsburgh
was the fact that he was a little on the
shorter side.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm not comparing this guy to Aaron Donald. Hey, I mean,
if only right. But time will tell, you know, time
will tell if he's gonna be here.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
But when we talk about Mason Graham, a couple of
things stand out from you when you watch film on
this dude, and obviously me being from Wisconsin being a
big ten guy, I've seen a little bit of Mason Graham.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I know he brings to the table.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
He almost takes it as an offense if an offensive
tackle puts their hands on him, like tackles won't be
able to maintain their blocks very long with this guy,
just because he's got hand violence, you know. And that's
something where either you really have it or you don't.
I had a defensive line coach in Joe Cullen, and yeah,
I'm sure you know about him a little bit, as
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a lot of Jaguars fans do, probably more yelling at
me than anything.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But Joe always had.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
This philosophy where there's three phases to a pass rusher
or a defensive lineman. There's the get off, there the
move area, and there's the finish. The get off basically
is just out of your stance. How quick are you? Well,
if you watch Mason Graham on film, he's usually the
first guy off the ball, so he has that the
move area, What does that mean? It means in space
when someone's past setting on you, what kind of moves
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do you have? What kind of field do you have? No,
that's still coming along for Mason Graham. But like that's
probably the hardest thing to master going from the collegiate
level to the pro level. And the last, but not least,
is the finish. When when you have the corner, can
you finish it? Can you chase down a quarterback that's
five yards down the field? Mason Graham can do that
as well. And guess what those things when it comes
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to finish, when it comes to get off, those are
hard to coach.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Either you have them or you don't, and Mason Graham
has those. In Spain.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Let's say, for example, that Travis Hunter's gone, Mason Graham's gone.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Now what now we're now we're getting interested.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Now we're getting interesting, right, And I'm assuming that we
can't trade back right now, we're just gonna go the
next or what can we trade back?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Are you're the GM right now, we're gonna call you
the GM of this exercise.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, so you're trading now.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
So I'm probably gonna trade back a little bit and
try to get some more capital. And that's gonna make
your job hard because then you got a couple more guys.
And I apologize to you to day I apologize to
day two. No.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But like everybody says, there's all trade we could trade,
there's rarely trades in the first round, especially true unless
it's like up to number one. Yeah, there's always talk
about it. We can mock them and all this stuff.
It's hard to really execute those sometimes, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I think if we're not talking about a trade, then
I think we go back to the trenches again. Ah okay,
And this is where offensive line comes into play. And
now keep in mind, I get that you just paid
Walker little and I get you have Anton Harrison, so
it looks like, well, you have two tackles that are
that are short up. But this is how coaches think,
Like Liam Cohen wasn't here when Anton Walker was drafted.
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Liam Cohen wasn't here when Walker little you know, got
his new contract.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So in my eyes, they sed off a lot to
proof to Liam Cohne and company.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Right, So if I'm only if I'm you know, Liam Cohnen,
if I'm Gladstone and I'm kind of doing like a
you know, I'm sure they're gonna collaborate.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
A little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I look at a guy like, I mean, Membu right
now is the guy that's like shooting up draft boards
because he has speed?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Right he ran about a four nine four eight.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's probably fashioning I ran at the combine, which makes
me feel a little sad now, but it's all good.
So you have member who's kind of like this athletic
freak coming from the Missouri this is the Missouri tackle.
And then you have another guy in Will Campbell, where
I feel like the whole year he was kind of
towered as the best tackle. Now here's how I think
about this. I don't out of LSU, by the way, yes,
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and I won't get your opinion of this as well.
Man Like, do you go with the guy that kind
of put himself on the map due to a good combine,
or do you go with the guy who's more solidified
because of what he's done all season.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I so.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I go back to where James Gladstone has come from.
The LA Rams don't really send people to the combine, right,
and I don't know if the Jags will in the future.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
The tapes out there. You can look at the times,
you can look at all that, but I think a
lot of the true evaluation will come from the tape.
From the tape from you know, everything's great.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
In the pre draft process.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
It's a nice evaluation and it might solidify some things
you see on tape, But I think when it comes
down to the nanny gritty, it goes back to the tape,
like what did they do in the fall? Yeah, that's
what I think would go to no, And I agree,
So that means, okay, maybe Membo's okay, he had a
great combine. Well did he have a great fall? Let's
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go back and watch this again exactly. It brings you
back around and that's important to know too as well.
Where I think some gms they get so wrapped up
in the numbers, right, Like, I mean, you know, God
rest his soul. At Al Davis was still around I'm
sure Membo would look great in a Raiders jersey, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
But then there's some gms like you just mentioned where
they're they're concerned more about tape, right And I think
there's sometimes where maybe it's like a small school guy
like I was, where yeah, tape is one thing, but
then you have to show up the combine as well,
just because you have to reassure that can you handle
the workload of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
So everything's different. But I think when we talk.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
About the best tackle out of this class right now,
I lean a little more towards Will Campbell because I
think his resume in terms of what he's able to accomplish,
and you know, he didn't lose any stock at the
combine by any means, I think he would be the guy.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And it is interesting that, I mean, the Jags apparently
are not going to do any thirty visits, so you
can bring thirty players in this time of year to
talk to them, you know, they're not doing it, and
I think they're one of I think there's about four
teams that are not doing that. Yeah, So again it
goes back to the tape and the scouting. You know,
if you really want to talk to you guy, you
probably get them on to zoom and do it. But
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just getting that out of the evaluation, not altogether, but
not clouding your judgment when it comes to the tape.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
No without that. I think that's the approach. I might
be a little off on that, but that's the feeling
looking at it, and that's what it has to be,
I think. JP.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You know, when we talk about like the visits and everything,
like listen, I took my fair share of visits. I
visited Buffalo when Tim Tebow was in my draft class,
and you know, I.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Was like the fifth role, like the fifth Beatle, and.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
He was obviously like you know, Paul McCartney and and
like everybody combined like, oh, Tim Tebow's here, and I'm
just like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Were there on the same day. That was there the
same day. It was.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
It was me, Tim Tebow and Brandon Spikes another line. Yeah,
So you have you know, little Austin Lane from you know,
wherever the heck he's from in Murray State University. Then
you have you know, Captain America and Tim Tebow and
Brandon Spikes.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I was, you know, I was obviously the sea side
of a lot of those conversations. But I didn't really
learn much, you know when it comes to the business.
Like they got me in front of the board a
little bit, but it was not that of the combine, right.
So I just think sometimes visits are used more as
smoke screens than anything.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
And now there's no smoke at all. There's no smoking.
You really don't know. I love it. It's even more mysterious.
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Speaker 3 (27:29):
With new strength and conditioning staffs. We're gonna get that
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Speaker 4 (27:34):
I mean, I'm not gonna be snitching out here, but
I'll I can give something from me one story. I'll
see what I can do We're on tended Excel, Jaguars
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Speaker 3 (27:44):
It is Jaguars Happy.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Out talking about you know, just doing the culture you know,
and being a cornerstone and that that review. And I've
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always wanted to be a guy to you know, be
known for that, you know, be known for a culture
and be known to you know, change culture. So I
love a good competition and I love a good challenge.
So for like, this is the perfect place for me
to go out there and show that I belong in
the NFL and belonging to be as one, you know,
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known as one of the guys that you know, changed
the culture.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Jordan Lewis cornerback from the Cowboys right after signing with
the Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
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Speaker 3 (28:56):
You've been to Dailies Place Austin.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Right at Dahi's place many times at a w there.
I've been to many shows, like a bunch of concerts
over there. Oh yeah, it's a good time.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
What's what's your like? What do you listen to before
a fight? Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Wow, anything and everything, honestly, but with a fight usually
you're you're kind of busy like hitting mits and everything,
so you know you don't have time to have the
headphones on too much. But uh, when I was like
playing in the league and everything in the NFL locker room,
and this would drive Joel calling insane because when I
wore my headphones, you better believe they're cranked up to eleven.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
So I was rocking anything from like we're going E
d M music, We're going like rock, We're going hip hop,
like a little bit of everything, and to the point
where Joe call and be like, turn that dang music
down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
It's too loud. You know, you know your death.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I'm like, we're all good coaches, getting trying to getting
in the Bible a little bit. But when when I
had my combine, I was probably the most nerves I
really been in terms of like getting ready to go perform,
right because at the Scouting Combat Combat. I was on
the scouting combat in Indie, and you know it's like
the underwear Olympics, right, like you're just out there for
for all to see, you know, two hundred and seventy
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whatever pound Austin with you know, some under armours Span
dex On and.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's about it.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
But I actually played a lot of Miley Cyrus part
of the USA. It was a big song at the time,
and that kind of helped call me down a little
bit and dance a little bit. So I think I
ran a four to eight at the combine, So, you know,
shout out to Miley Syrus for helped me out there.
How many reps of the bench press if.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
You do so?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Didn't do the bench press at the combine, but I
benched at my protege.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think got twenty one or twenty two. Okay, Yeah,
it's good. It's how it's all. I got these long arms.
You know what I'm saying. It's tough. Yeah, yeah, I
feel the same way. I have the same problem.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, that's the reason I don't do that with Jeff
Loggaman out Austin Laney and I'm JP Shatterick.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
We're at the Hyundai Studios on Tintin XL, Jaguars dot
com and Jaguars YouTube. April seventh, the offseason program can
began for teams with a coaching change. The Jaguars will
begin April eighth officially, so that means strength and conditioning
for the first couple weeks of the offseason program. And
that also means there's a new strength and conditioning staff
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here as well, Austin and Eric Ciano has been in
the league for fifteen years with the Buffalo Bills. He's
the director of strength and Conditioning now for the Jaguars.
So we always hear about establishing the culture from the
head coach. He the offensive scheme and what's the terminology
and what happens on defense and everything that goes into that.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
The special team staff is the same, but hey, this
is another side of it.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
This group, the strength and conditioning staff, are the only
ones that can be on the field working with these
guys in the first couple of weeks. Yeah, there's some
classroom working things that happened. But how much of a
challenge is it for Siano, the new strength and conditioning
director to establish his program when he hasn't been able
to get in front of these guys.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Well, I mean it's definitely it's gonna be a little challenging.
And you know, and especially when we talk about strength
and conditioning coaches, right, Like usually if you're a new
coach on a new team, you bring in your own guy, right,
because you hear things in circles and you want to
be comfortable with what you know you can bring in.
Siana was in what Buffalo for I think fifteen years
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or fourteen years, which I think speaks volumes on his
resume and what he's all about. Because if you can
go through coach after coach after coach like they did
in Buffalo for a while, I think that kind of
speaks volumes to what you're bringing on the table as
your own coach, right. So I think with Siano it's
gonna be important because people think that culture is built
in training camp, and culture is built you know, maybe
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in the film room. But like he literally it's his
job to get a bunch of essentially strangers in there,
a bunch of grown men.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
To lift weights number one but number two, to.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Kind of rally together and be like, hey, this is
how we do things and everybody goes about that differently.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
And then every player has their own plan you have
to craft as well. Yes, I mean how does that
process start for a new guy coming in leading it?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I mean usually if you're a quarterback, like I think
I may have saw Blame Gabert twice in the weight
room when when I play it now. But you know,
the quarterbacks are kind of doing their own thing. It's
more mobility and stuff with their shoulders, you know, if
you're a big offensive lineman, if you're a defensive lineman,
you're throwing the real weight around and everything. But yeah,
usually you get divided up into groups and then you
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just have to go accordingly. And obviously, I mean I've
I've been with some absolute monsters in the weight room.
One that sticks out to me is Stephen Paya, who
was with I was with him in Chicago. I think
he at the time he set the combine record for
most bench press reps at two twenty five. I want
to say it was like forty something, but I remember,
like I remember going in there thinking like, all right,
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I'm pretty strong, you know, I can hold my own
and this dude we had an exercise, but we had
a bear crawl and then you you do a tress
up extension. So for those you know basically right, so
bear crawl than that, I'm not sure you've ever done
it before.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Joe, look at me, hey man, don't assume anyway.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
So I was using the probably like forty five pounds
or whatever for twenty yards. Steven was using one hundred pounds,
that's it. And and that put it on perspective of
like there's strong and then there's like frequently strong, and
he was obviously preciously strong.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I mean, yeah, there's.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Like we talked about Aaron Donald earlier, right, I mean
those some of those and James Harrison, like these guys
are just different when it comes to weight training, correct.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, And then that's see I think nowadays, like when
I played back in the twenty ten twenty eleven, around
that time, I almost feel like strength coaches kind of
kept things a little more secret, right because you didn't
have all these YouTube videos, you didn't have Instagram. It
was more of just like the philosophies that you were taught,
and you're not gonna shame with anybody else. There's information,
there's access to everything now where you can do your
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own strength program through an NFL team, and dude, we
can get you shdded by the time the season starts
if we want, not sure if you're in, if we want,
if we want, I mean, you have to have to
be on board with that. But but now I think
it's more about just making sure that you know, it's
about building that culture, but making sure that the players
are on the same page, right and making sure that
you're getting the best out of them, because there's the preseason,
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there's the spring where it's okay, let's build our strength,
let's build our speed, and then probably even more important
part is during the middle of the season is making
sure we're maintaining but we're not getting.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Hurt as well. The technology. You certainly mentioned that, but
I don't. I'm gonna guess you didn't have a GPS
monitor on you when you were in Jack So the
GPS monitor started around then. Yeah, so when I was
on my way out when you were coming in. Actually,
I think was the first year they implemented the GPS monitors.
And it's crazy, like how much science now goes into
all this stuff, right, because I still feel like there's
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some old school guys out there that are like get
these computers and you know there's no air weights, it's
all real weight and things like that. But you have
to be smart now, right, like we're talking about world
class athletes, and I think athletes now more than ever
pay attention to their bodies, what kind of fuel are
they putting into their bodies, how they're taking care of themselves.
So it has to be at a premium in terms
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of how you're going about training these guys. And then
I mean from organization, well from one to another might
have a different philosophy on what they provide certain and
that's why of these grades come out from the NFLPA
or correct.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
And I've had my fair share of strength coaches. I've
had Luke richardson his first year here, who actually trained
brock Lesner back in the day and in the UFC
as well. Brock Lesnar came to visit a little bit
with him. He was a really big proponent on more
of like the like the air weights, so as opposed
to like using like free weights that you see at
any kind of gym that you go to. This was
more of like the high tech fancy, you know, the
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air weights they called them. I had Tom Lozinski, former player.
This guy was a little more old school, right, like
we got all the air compressed machines out of here,
and then we go back to like the real weight,
you know, and everything like that, which was it was
a nice change of pace as well. So I've been
around a couple of philosophies, but like I said, I
think back in those days, everyone kind of had their
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own thing. I think as we get more and more
towards social media and everyone kind of sharing their ideas,
I think it's probably gonna become a little more even
of what teams are doing now in the weight room,
and it starts back and even high school now they're
doing this stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
So kids have been trained with all this from about
fourteen years old all the way up.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I mean, I have a ten year old playing flag
football right now, and and even he knows about like
you know certain and we're just doing body with exercises
until further notice, but like even he's in on it now.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You know, it's about mobility and flexibility.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I don't know what flexibility was until my third year
in the NFL when I started doing yoga for the
first time. Like it was all about muscles, it was
all about speed, but like forget flexibility.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But it's a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It certainly is, and they'll have a lot of work
ahead of them starting April eighth, when the Jaguars began
the off season program with a new strength and conditioning staff.
We're back in a moment plenty more ahead as we
wind down on this Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I hope what they see is someone who cares.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
I hope that shows in my play. I think it
does because I do. I care a lot, care about
my teammates, I care.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
About the team. Those are the things that I want
to be evident in my play.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
They want to see a guy finishing all the way
of the whistle, picking up his teammates first one dare
to give him.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
If I'm not doing that.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Text me, shoot me, tweet me, tell me I'm not
doing it, because that's important.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
That stuff's important to me.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
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Speaker 5 (38:40):
J P.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Shadwick with Austin Lane on this Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, I guess the tweeting at players really wasn't a
thing when you were playing either right.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Now, not so much towards towards the end of my career,
it did become a little bit. I remember one time
we put the Saints and Drew Brees may have broke
my ankles onto play action and just kind of joked
me out of my shield.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I know, Bree, I don't wry. I end up getting
him back an I didn't get.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
A quarterback sack later where he had some choice words
for me, So we were even. But yeah, a lot
of people felt the need to reach out to me
and let me know about Drew Brees breaking my ankle. Okay,
fair enough, wasn't wasn't my happiest moment. Probably not. How's
your bracket? By the way, and a basketball team starts tonight, Yeah,
it's been a lot better. Shout out to Louisville who
had in the final four, first game of the tournament,
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they got beat. So I'm like, all right, at least
you're making it really easy on me to not invest myself.
But it's wild for how much basketball that I don't
watch during the regular season, where I think I'm an expert.
Once the tournament bracket comes out, where I think, okay,
you know, I'm gonna have some sleepers here, I'm gonna
have some quality picks.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I'm hurting right now.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
And by the way, my son who's in a so
we're like a hundred team league kind of thing, like
a hundred bracket league. I'm in like ninetieth. My son
right now is in second place and it's the first
year of playing it.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Wow. And he lets me know about it every single day.
Bet he does. He's fantastic. You know what, what about you?
How's your brother? It's not great. I don't think you know.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
We we have to do it for entertainment purposes only here, right,
So that's that's what it is. I think I picked
Duke because I like coach k but he retired three
years ago.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
He's been how much basketball I watch?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of those has been
going right now. But Alabama's playing to night. I'm not
a huge basketball fan.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Though. It's a football spring football season. Awesome, come on, man, gotcha,
it is spring football.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
It's also now baseball season, and your Milwaukee Brewers are
losing two to one of the Yankees in the top
of the six.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yep, Brewers got off to a really hot start.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Freddy Peralta on the mound decide to throw just an
absolute lob to the leadoff hitter and it was a
home run in New York. So we're off to a
fantastic start there, Jay, Yeah, big baseball guy. I'm a
big Brewers guy. If the Brewers are doing well, I
could talk baseball all day. If they're bottom of the division,
I never heard of the sport book. They've been pretty
good lately. They've been fantastic lately. Yeah, and they're really
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like overachieving in terms of what they have in the roster.
But like this is is kind of like that small
market baseball, right, like where you develop players they do
really great, then they go to the Yankees or the
Dodgers or the Dodge right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, yeah, they're from Japan, They're going to the Dodgers.
Kind of how it seems to be going right now.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, and then of course you your last fight in
UFC was what March first, March first, so yeah, four
weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, yeah, weeks ago. Yep.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Thankfully didn't get too like beat up in my face,
and anything that wasn't a good fight for me ended
up kind of you know, taking a little bit of
a gnat. But overall, man had a great first round,
actually dropped my opponent, and the second round just got
a little too uh trigger happy, try to knock them
out and and have you weight.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
You make one mistake, it's game over. It's over.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
How long does it take to recover from that? It
all depends, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
The fight before that probably took me a little longer
because I had to get like seven stitches in the
back of my head from an illegal elbow. I've won
that fight, but that was took a little longer to
recover obviously, just with stitches and everything. But it was
a cool setup because I had to get my jersey
retired at Murray State. So I went back to Murray
State and our athletic trainer that I when I was
there was still there. I'm like, hey, you might have
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taken these stitches out of my head, and he goes,
what are you talking about. I'm like, I got stitches
in my head, man, and like, let's try to, you know,
relive those glory days a little bit. So he ended
up taking the stitches out outstanding, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
And then on your daily regimen, like what do you
do it every day? I mean you're lighter now than
you were playing football, really.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So my regiment, man, I'm always trying
to stay active. And I always say with fighting, you know,
there really is no off season. It's got to be
a lifestyle, right, So I always try to get something
in the morning, whether it's a run, whether it's like
a weightlifting session. And then I always try to get
something in the afternoon as well. So whether that's you know, mitwork,
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whether that's jiu jitsu, grappling, wrestling, I always try to
do something on the daily.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
So stay pretty active, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
And I've we've talked about this before, I think on
the practice field, and I'm always fascinated by the mindset
of MMA, yeah, and how you better flip to switch on, yeah,
and and what that takes to cross a certain line
and be in that threshold and in that arena. Just
a totally different mindset than a lot of people just
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walking around the street.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
It's such a different mindset. But it's also a different
mindset than even football itself. Yeah, right, And that was
kind of like the biggest obstacle that had overcome, right,
because in football it's all based off of motion. Right,
you're talking to the guy who got in a fight
with montell Owens, like the second day of practice and
women wearing just helmets, and montell Owens was like the
nicest dude ever, Right, So so I feel like my
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future was kind of predetermined for me if I'm fighting
montell Owens.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Gon a walk through. But you know, with that, like
with football, it's great because.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
You can let that emotion out right, Like it's a
physically demanding sport, but every play last what maybe five
to seven seconds. In fighting, if you go with that
football mentality where it's like, all right, I'm just gonna
knock you out, you'll get knocked out.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
So if you ever watch a fighter walk in a cage,
they're always calm, they're always cool, they're always collected because
you really have to be. And it's weird trying to
make that walk. And I've made that walk now. If
I cut my amateur in my pro career, I mean
like twenty seven times, twenty eight times, and every time
you make that walk, your mind is telling you like
I'm going to something dangerous and I shouldn't be doing this.
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And you ask any fight or this, whether they're full
of machismo or not, they're tell you the same thing.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
If they're telling the truth, there is nerves and there
is your.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Mind saying like, we shouldn't be here, we shouldn't be
doing this, this isn't this is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Right. But then it's.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Wild how you go from that moment and then you
get in the cage and you kind of walk around
a little bit, and then all of a sudden, you're
like back to regranting yourself of Hey, I've done this
a million times, I've done this in practice a million times,
I can do this, and all of a sudden, like
all that nervous energy just goes away.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
That's crazy, it really is. And when's your next fight?
How does that work? So now it's kind of the
waiting game, right. So I signed a four fight deal.
That was my first fight, was my last fight, was
the first fight on a new contract.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
So we got three more fights, hopefully sometime in the summertime. Man,
But we'll see, you know, I mean, I'm I'm open
to whenever. But it's just you know, it's getting ready
for the landscape. And that's the cool thing about fighting too,
is that you can just be yourself with it, you know.
I Mean there's some guys like the Connor mcgregors of
the old who want to make it a pacade and
make it.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
A giant spectacle, kind of like Rick Flair. More power
to you.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
I'm more of the guy that's just gonna you know,
be even keeled, go with the flow and and try
to knock your head off, you know, and then that's
what it's gotta be. Yeah, And let's let's get you
back out there soon. Let's get here man.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, the Jags, as we said, will be back out
there April eighth, the start of the off season program
owners meetings.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Help me up next week.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
So down in Palm Beach, the NFL Annual Meeting, there'll
be a lot of rule changes on the table and.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
A lot of a lot of you know, I'm sure
like Hawaiian shirts being worn everything too as well.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Probably, So let's go probably some croque on the lawn.
I just saw that one year. And Boca of all things.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, yeah, the Boca Ratone Club, they have a croquet court, yeah,
grass or whatever you call it.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, I don't know what you'd call that. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Maybe maybe so it's like European, right, So I probably
there either way. So there's that going on. Of course,
there's meetings, league meetings and everything. The rule changes and
all that start will start coming out next week and
then hey, the players are in and then it's the
NFL Draft April twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, at
Green Bay of all places.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, yeah, and I might go back home for that.
We'll see you're gonna come. I mean, I'm not sure
like how green Bay is gonna host this whole thing,
because it is. You've been to Green Bay before, I have.
H Yeah, I'm very curious to what it's gonna look like. Yes,
I might just go back, just from out of curiosity.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I mean, there's nowhere really to stay there. No, No,
there's not many. I'm sure the league scooped up most
of the places there. I think our crew that we're
sending there is staying in.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Like Apples and Yeah, Appleton's like a probably like twenty
thirty minutes away.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
It's up on a little time to go get a drink.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I obviously at my mom's house actually, So we're gonna
be h re reliving the glory days of being in
high school again.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
So hopefully she's got my room clean from Maybe you
should go find that pro.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
I can find that program absolutely and bring it back
to Tony but selling they can feel old again.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
That would be hilarious if you could pull that off,
see what I can do, that would be great.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
And then on the show, Brenton Austin Britten Austin all
that strep.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
That was five times. Yep, it's still going man.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Yeah, you know, I think we're a great combination when
we talk about the jag just because of you.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I mean, Brent's there, you're the show Well, no, I'm
not the show man.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Brent does a great job of keeping us on track
because it was up to me. Man, we're all over
the road. So Brent does a great job of keeping
me in check, you know, kind of softening my rough
edges a little bit. But it's a great chemistry that
we have. We have a lot fun with it and
check it out sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Check it out? Where can we check it out?
Speaker 4 (47:39):
I mean, I am I allowed to say oh okay, yeah, okay,
I don't know man, I mean, hey, I'm a freelancer
man right now. So it's on it's it's on the
Action Sports Jack's app. But we're also on Twitter, we're
on YouTube rall around. So just type in Brent and
Austin you'll find us.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
You can find it. It's always on x I see
that all.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
It's all well because Brent retweets it like fifty times
a day. I don't do as much. Probably should a
little more. That's the name of the game. You got
to promote yourself. I'm trying that. That's something I'm trying
to learn how to care about social media again, slowly
but surely.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, it's it's hard to do.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Sometimes, especially with the MMA communities too and everything, because
usually I lose people money, so then they wanted you know,
there's a lot of did they feel like people come
out to be like, hey, you know, I lost three
thousand dollars on you, or like I bet one hundred
dollars on you.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Better win. Like that's like me going.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
To a dealership and be like, hey, I bet one
hundred dollars a you're gonna sell a car today.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
I don't know who you are, but like, best of
luck to you, bro.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
You don't know these people, I got my face smashed it.
Yeah you think I feel yeah, exactly, Yeah, I know
I was. I was a meme for my last fight.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
How do you think I feel about you losing a
couple of hundred bucks on you know, a parlay?
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Sorry funny man, Yeah, people are funny. That's the that's
the world we live in today.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
All right. So that's what's coming up, the draft coming up?
All right? So what is your optimist?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Are you optimistic about the path the Jaguars are on
to close it out today?
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:59):
I am the because we have really no idea where
we're Gladstone and company are going to go. But you
get the sense that it could be a wide receiver
or it could be an into a defensive lineman. And
if that's the case, I feel like you can't go wrong.
If Travis Hunter is going to be there, and I
feel like you can't go wrong.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
If the Michigan is going to be there.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
How about how about the organization that Liam Cohen is
putting together here?
Speaker 4 (49:23):
I like it, you know, I mean time will tell, right.
You still gotta win football games and everything, but I
think the enthusiasm. I think being able to relate to
players is a very important thing these days. You saw
how devastated they were. Sorry Tampa, but you saw how
devastated they were when he left and everything. So I
think that's gonna be a good sign of, you know,
getting the best out of these guys in lockers.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
It seems so overblown to me. What's that? I know?
Speaker 4 (49:47):
And then you have to ask permission from Tampa. I
guess if you want to play in Orlando.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
It is what I was hearing.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
We're talking some of I think there's some of that,
but like it's what it is. There's certain rules of
that stuff. Yeah, but the whole dramatic Oh, he's we're
mad at him for leaving, I know.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
I mean, the dude made a business decision. Man.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
Look it's a visit at the end of the day.
I mean, it's wild for what he gave you all.
You should be thankful.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
But we'll take him, certainly, will Austin. Great job, man,
great see you. Thanks for having me. It's been a
time and a half. Appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
It's been an hour in fact, very fast beats three hours.
Beat the three hours with Martino every day.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Let's do it again, Austin Lane bab Shadrick thanks to
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Jeff Logoman out this week. But the guy with us
today is somebody you know you'll love.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
A fifth round pick of the Jaguars back in twenty
ten out of Murray State.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Three years with the.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Jags, one year or the Lions one year with the Bears.
Retired from the NFL, but not done with sports, moved
into a career and mixed martial arts. He's worked his
way up in the UFC thirteen and six as a pro,
eleven wins by knockout for Austin Lane.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good afternoon, How are you good afternoon man? I'm doing great.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm not interested in a Paddington Bear, so I'm sorry
about that. And yeah, still doing the whole MMA thing
like this is what happens when you hate golf. You
have to find other hobbies to do. And thankfully mma
and fighting kind of went hand in hand with football,
so it worked out pretty well. We're in the media world.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Here in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I was told to say the Brenton Austin Show five times.
The first time I said it today on Twitter, I said,
what is the Brenton Austin Show?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So that's one out of the way. That's one out
of the way.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I probably have to mention a couple of times, my
sou But Brent's gonna learn what a what freelancer means
really quick here as I'm on this show right now.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and hey, if the check keeps coming.
They do all you can. There's some doubt about that. Yeah,
good to have you here, though.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's uh.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We get to hang out on a practice field some
when you're around. But I don't know if we've ever
actually done a program together.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well, I mean, JP, this has been a long time coming.
As someone who put in many hours at the you know,
drinking establishments around Jacksonville, it's only right come on Happy
Hour now.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh, I thought you're pointing with.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Me trying to send the show in general Happy Hour
unsweet and nice sea.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I'm in bed by nine there every night. I am
now too. But back in the day, though, you.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Know, it was one thing that may or may not
be who knows. Of course, you're you're finding you with
the Jags was twenty twelve. That was my first year
with the Jaguars. We go back that far at least. Uh,
we've got a free agent talk coming up. We'll get
to some of these mock drafts coming up. A former
teammate of yours is getting another honor in college. I
don't know if you guys talked about this today or not.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
We did not know.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I think our producer needs to do a better job
of getting our stories right here?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
What do we got.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Justin Blackman was inducted in the College Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, fairly recently.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, we'll be inducted into the Oklahoma State Ring of Honor.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Good for him, how about that?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Justin listen man, I understand that here in Jacksonville didn't
have the career that he wanted. But in terms, there's
a locker room guy, just a guy that you know,
you see every single day, like I did, one of
the most first of all humble and most salts of
the earth dudes you're ever gonna meet, you know. I
remember watching him in practice thinking like, this guy's gonna
be something special, you know. And then obviously, boy it
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stood out too. Yeah, it stood out the time. Yeah,
and just naturally gifted, you know. And I think Cecil
Schwartz told me this one time, is that there's just
some guys where when you're running those routes, you know
that they try really hard and they have their cuts
and everything, and then they exhaust themselves to try to
get open. And then there's some guys that you see
wide receiver where it's natural, like where they're just meant
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to do it. And Justin Blackman man, if you remember
him playing and obviously in practice too, it just everything
came so natural to him, and just it's a shame
that we didn't to see more of it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And if it was within five feet of him, he's
catching the football. I mean catch radius was insane. Yeah,
without a doubt, and I always was.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And listen, I mean a fun fact about Justin Blackman too,
is that guy could put more dip in his lip
than anybody had ever seen before.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Man talk, that's what you expect. I'm from Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We would do a little bit there too, But I mean,
this dude like he always had one ready to go.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Man. Yeah, absolutely, And there.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Was some obviously some big moments on the field, but
unfortunately just didn't last long enough here. But congratulations to
Justin who was at the Hall of Fame induction ceremony
and I guess that was last fall and he'll be
in the Ring of Honor at Oklahoma State coming up.
All right, let's uh, free agency is not done. It's
never done. It only begins at the start of the
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league year. The Jags were active right there out of
the gate in the negotiation period this year, and they've
been really quiet after that. One signing after those first
wave of free agency. So now ten new players have
come in. So the question for you, Austin, Yes, a couple.
I got a lot of questions for you. What free
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agent will have the greatest impact on this team in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So it's funny because we talk about free agency and
it always seems like the team that spends the most
money is going to the super Bowl, right, Like that's
the that's how fan bases want to treat Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Right, Fortunately, we know that's not how that works. That's
not how it works sometimes.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But to answer your question of who I think is
going to have the biggest impact, you know, I think
a guy that you got to keep in mind here
is Jordan Lewis for a couple of reasons, the corner
from the cow the corner from the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
When he was brought in here, the first thing that
people were saying is what happens to Jerry and Jones now?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
And that's a legitimate question because this guy is a
slot specialist. He's a nickel specialist, plays on the inside
a little bit a lot where Jerry Jones likes to play,
a lot where Jerry Jones last year had some success,
So how are they going to work together?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Do you move Jerry Joe on the outside. That could
be a possibility.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
But I think when we talk about Jordan Lewis of
what he brings to this team, obviously it's the presence
of being that nickel corner, but also it's leadership and
also its attitude. And that's why I think this defense
needs more than anything going to this new season is
more attitude and just more kind of having that dog
in you if you will. You know, it's one thing
if you're a defense and you're you're dominating every single play,
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you can have a bunch of choir boys out there.
It's fine, but when you face adversity, you need those
guys that had that dog in him to kind of
come out and say, hey, we got to do better.
And I think Jordan Lewis can do that. And he's
a dog on the field, but also professional off the field.
He was voted i think in twenty twenty four he
was voted like mister cowboy, like mister good guy, whatever
you want to call it in the Dallas media. So
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he knows how Yeah, so he knows how to be
a professional outside of the field obviously, but when he
gets up between those white lines, he's a dog.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And he said in his press conference he's not afraid
to chirp, and when he gets out there, he's gonna
let the other guy know he out there too.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That can be a good thing if it's goes the
right way and helps you play better.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Right, I mean, it's a good thing if you can
back it up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And obviously he's been in the league for a while now,
he's well respected amongst his peers, So I think, like,
if you're willing to chart man, you're willing to kind
of put on the line.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You got to back it up. And I think Jordan
Lewis backs it up.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Another big piece of this free agency, all the signings,
at least as a whole, is the I mean statement
I think they made about the offensive line for offensive
line signings so far in free agency.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
They're gonna do some more work on this at some point,
if it's not free agency than in the draft, because
that was a focal point of a lot of contention
for this team in the last couple of.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Years, especially in short yardage.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Unable to get things done inconsistency in the passing game
started there a lot of times. They've had some injuries
up there, some older players. Well, now you're gonna bring
some new faces in here. It's gonna make some players uncomfortable,
I'm sure, but you gotta get better.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
There's gonna be some competition, right, and competition always brings
out the best in everybody, or if you can't handle it,
it's to the wayside, you go. I think we look
at what Liam Cohen's trying to do here. You talk
about a guy in Tampa Bay last year who had
a very dynamic offense, was predicated on the run game,
but also had Mike Evans and Chris Godwin helps. Both
those guys went down for a little bit though, Chris
Godwin for the year, Mike Evans for a couple of weeks.
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So what was the calling card of the Tampa Buccaneers.
It was Bucky irving in the ability to run the
football with those big guys up front. So I think
Liam Cohen is obviously a huge fan of offensive lineman
guys that I think you can kind of have swing
tackles and all of that, and it's something to watch
for in the draft as well, because keeping Trevor Lawrence
upright being able to run the football, are gonna be
two keys to the Draguars this up and coming season.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Fifty million a year. You better keep him up right.
You better. What happened Andrew Luck? Right? I mean he
he was so beat up at Indy. You know what,
I'm out of here. I can't do this. Yeah, you
don't want that to happen? No, I mean, well, I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
When we played against the Colts, when I was still
play we wanted that to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Oh yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Because when you go from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck Like,
it wasn't a good time.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
JP. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Like we had Manning, you know Colin, every one of
our plays on defense out and then you have you know,
the golden child that is Andrew Luck Like we just
wanted to break sometimes from great quarterback play from the Colts.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah. They're just now starting to get out of that.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, I mean where is this when I was playing, right, Richardson,
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Now they got competitions and old guys coming Daniel Jones,
and I mean that's a different world these days, you know.
And then of course the other free agent sign is
a couple of tight ends Johnny Munt Hunter Long from
the Vikings and Rams, guys who know the offensive idea.
And that's a question we won't really have an answer
to until they start playing I think, real football games.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But what is this really?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
What will this really be modeled after? More kind of
Udinsky's Minnesota or Liam Cohen's Buccaneers and Rams days, a mix.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Of both probably, But what does that even mean? And
how do you figure that out? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You know, I mean when I think of up great offenses,
you think of Sean McVay, right, and you look at
what they did in Tampa Bay last year, and there's
some similarities. Like we think of Sean mcvay's offense, we
think of all right, it's built behind Matthew Stafford and
Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua. They can run the football too, right,
And Kylin Williams for the Ram is one of the
most underrated running backs in all of football. So I
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think when you look at what the goal is gonna
be here, you you have a guy and well you
have two guys. You have Tank Bigsby, you have Travis
etn two guys that can do different types of things
but can be pretty dynamic in offenses. I think it's
gonna be predicated off of running football first and passing second.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Okay, yeah, they need to do that. You gotta go
do it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And keep in mind, I'm very old school, right, so
I always think like that, the game's won and lost
in the trenches, right, Like my cost on the other show,
Brett Martineau gets so tired of me saying this, But
the game is won and lost up front, right, So
if you can run the football, you got a pretty
good chance of winning.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Just Saequon Barkley and the Eagles this year. Absolutely, Why
would he get tired of that? By the way, Brent
knows better than that. I mean, I just he knows
who's running the show over here. By the way, I
mean the new.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
EVP over here. Yeah, you better believe it. Many. I
think me and Tony have a lot of things in common.
I'm not gonna run a marathon anytime soon like he
did back in the day. But I think when it
comes to winning football games, it is done in the
trunk hold.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
On we Bury the lead. Tony ran a marathon.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Didn't Tony Paseli run a marathon like way back in
the day when he rere tired.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I'm pretty sure he did. Maybe he did.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't think he can anymore because the second hip
replacement in the way of that.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
No, but I'm pretty sure back in the day Tony
Baseli ran a marathon.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
If I'm not mistaken, I can see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
this is a long time. I'm getting off on a
tamil coming. Well, we'll get plenty of ahead here.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Early in my time, I challenged him to the five
k in the stadium. It's like almost a bit for
the what we're gonna cover it anyway, Yeah, I challenge
and I was running a little bit at the time,
you know, and I've I was with him for like
a half a mile, and then I was not. He
was just gone, isn't it. I was like, Oh, got
that long stretch. He's not some fat offensive line No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
He's an athlete as well. Now he beat me by
like six minutes or something.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
So one of my best twenty best selling stories I've
ever had was so back in this was nineteen ninety five,
I believe, is when they went to Stevens Point, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yes, that's where where my daycare was.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
So as part of the little daycare field trip in
the summertime, I got to go check out one of
the very first Jaguars practices at UW Stevens Point. Now,
you know, I had my bike and everything, and I
got a program and lo and behold who's some of
the guys that signed it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, Tony Bassli was one of them. Still still have
that program.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So I get drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars and you know,
I think ten ten xcel, you know, they want to
talk to me and everything, and Tony's not doing the
show there, and I go, hey, man, we've actually met
Because he's like, nice to meet you, Austin.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I go, well, surprising, we've.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Actually met before when I was in daycare back in
ninety five.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You actually signed my program.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And then obviously he had a few choice words for me,
saying like hey, thanks for making me feel super old
and everything. But yeah, that was that was the first
time I met Tony when I was man, I must
have been the first second.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Grade or something. Standing.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, there's still lower told of that training camp of
being like the hottest place on the planet.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I felt like you.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Left Jacksonville to try to get out of the out
of the out of the warm, and you came to
like maybe the hottest place in the United States that
year in Steven's Point, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Now, do you have that program framed on the wall?
Like do you have it like there's a whole just
display Jaguars part of your Jaguar room. Do you have
it like a Jaguar room? How does this work? I mean,
I don't know you played it for three years. I
don't know an NFL room.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I mean so like he was talking like my room
back at my mom's house. Oh no, no, I mean
you have like I have, like a hangout room. Yeah,
I mean it's definitely a hangout room. There is football
stuff there, and the Jaguars are my team obviously, Like
I'm not going to claim the Bears, not going to
claim the Lions. Had a short stint with the Chiefs,
which would be nice to claim them, but no, I'm
I'm gonna claim the Jaguars all day. So there's some
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there's some Jaguar stuff hanging out the program though that
I got signed for training camp. I think it's still
my mom's house. Okay, I'm sure she's scrappedook that probably
as moms do.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
That's what they a lot of times do. Without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
We've got plenty ahead. We'll return in just a moment
and get into some of these mock drafts.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
This mock draft season.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
It is mock drafts. All about mock draft Sea. We
are suckers for mock drafts. On our show JP for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well, we're gonna hit some of the guys that have
been mocked okay to the Jaguars and hit your thoughts
on a lot of those. We're on ten ten xl
AM Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube with Austin Lane.
I'm JP Shaddrick and this is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, we got ten picks in this year's draft.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
We're gonna have to have some spots that are actually
open for them to insert.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
So you know, if you add a veteran at this
point could be just standing in the way.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We're going to allow these rookies to you know.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Get a chance to get out on the field and
help us this coming fall.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
James Gladstone, the Jaguars general manager, earlier in the right
after the start Free agency and welcome back. It's Jaguars
Happy Hour in Jaguars Football is presented by Fresh from Florida.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It's always in season.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
JP Shadwick, Jeff logam An out today, Austin Lane is in.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I can't talk hunting or fishing. I'm sorry, Thank goodness,
I'm kidding. Of course, Saturday morning. Be careful.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, he'll be back with his next so he's not
out for good. No, no, no, he's in next week.
What do you think of James Gladstone first impressions?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Man. He comes from obviously in the Rams that have
done things different ways. They've they've built through free agency
and had success. They built through the draft and had success.
They know, I feel like, and this is just him,
but that that whole team in general. They know how
to find gems in later rounds, which is I think
what you need to be successful. Obviously, he's very young,
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he's kind of coming into his own now as a GM.
I'm very curious to see how this first draft goes
for him. But I think there's a lot to like
about him. Thirty four years old. Yeah wow, yeah, yeah,
I mean i'd be like me off the street. A
couple of years ago, like, hey, you want to be
a GM Now, I'm all set. I'll just keep doing
mock drafts.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, so as he said there, and that was, you know,
in reference to a question I believe about, hey, are
you gonna sign? Is there more free agency coming? Especially
like up front? Maybe we'll see, but at some point
the rookie is gonna have to play. So with all
these draft picks they have coming up, you're gonna draft
some of these guys pretty high. They got to get
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them out on the field somehow too. So let's go through.
You know, it's mock draft season. It is mock draft season.
Is this your favorite season? Mock draft season?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
It's one of them. I'm not gonna lie. I mean,
I think Christmas is still up there, but this is
it's like one A, one B.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You know, if you've been good or bad. It depends
if you've been good or bad. Thanksgivings up there as well.
But when we talk about mock draft season, I appreciate
it because I feel like everyone's got a voice, and
Ruin's mock draft is the.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Best mock draft. Where is it?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I mean, people are gonna tell you that, you know
what I'm saying, like with Gladstone, Like.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, in Gladstone, we trust in everything.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
But there's like thirty people right now on Twitter posting
their mock draft saying, Hey, mister Gladstone, please look at
my mock draft.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's what you have to do. James.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I get you're a genius and all, but I've got
a mock draft for you.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, I mean, I know you've been you know, you
earned your stripes and everything. You kind of like this,
you know, you're kind of like this wonder kin when
it comes to a GM. But blame me when I
say I've watched like two YouTube videos of highlights of
these players and I know.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
What I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, let's beget this one because obviously the Jaguars have
the fifth pick. Yeah, you can't really control everything like
they've been able to do a couple of years in
a row in the past. Let's what would you really
want at five? If if all was fair and all
is clear, what are you going after at five?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Austin?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
So if I'm going at five, you have to ask
yourself the question of what is the biggest need. Now
you have a guy in Travis Hunter who's kind of
like the that's like the sexy pick right, Like that's like, hey,
this is gonna Jersey sales. I mean, the dude's humble
is all get up, which makes zero sense to me
because you're supposed to be like an all Pro at
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wide receiver and an all Pro at cornerback, like two
ego driven positions, and you're the most humble guy of
all time. Like if that was me, I'd be pulling
up in three Brinks trucks when training camp started. But
like Travis Hunter, for whatever reason, man that this dude,
like he's got a great head on his shoulders and
I like him a lot. Depends where you want to
play him. But I think if you look at what
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this team needs, you talk about a guy in Campanelli
who comes from green Bay. If you look at what
green Bay does, and he comes from the coaching tree
of Vicvangeo. He was with him in Miami. I played
for Vic. The cool thing about playing for Vick is
is as a defensive lineman. Some defensive playbooks were like
you know, an Encyclopedia Britannica or like a phone book
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from New York, and some playbooks were like just like
a like an I hot menu, just pretty pretty low key.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
For young kids listening a full book where all the
numbers for people were listening.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, I forget we're streaming as well. Sorry, man, this
isn't the radio. Yes, yes, a very thick book nonetheless anymore. Yes,
but when we talk about Fangio's defense from a defensive
line standpoint, it was very simplistic because he always believed
in rushing four and I think Campanelli believes in that
same thing. If you look at last year where the
Jaguars had some problems, you have two great book nds
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in Trayvon Walker and Joshua Hines Allen. The issue was
it was the interior push, right, And if the plan
is to rush four and you're not gonna blitz a lot,
and you're gonna rely on your secondary to kind of
different coverages and confuse. You know that it's this set
offense you're going against, you gotta have interior pass rush.
And that's where I think Mason Graham comes into play.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
He he's got everything you want. Yeah, may not have
the height, but he's got everything else you want. And
then you may not need that in an interior defensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Right. I mean Aaron Donald was not a tall guy either.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Aaron Donald was six to one, you know, and that
was kind of his biggest knock coming out of Pittsburgh
was the fact that he was a little on the
shorter side.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm not comparing this guy to Aaron Donald. Hey, I mean,
if only right. But time will tell, you know, time
will tell if he's gonna be here.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
But when we talk about Mason Graham, a couple of
things stand out from you when you watch film on
this dude, and obviously me being from Wisconsin being a
big ten guy, I've seen a little bit of Mason Graham.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I know he brings to the table.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
He almost takes it as an offense if an offensive
tackle puts their hands on him, like tackles won't be
able to maintain their blocks very long with this guy,
just because he's got hand violence, you know. And that's
something where either you really have it or you don't.
I had a defensive line coach in Joe Cullen, and yeah,
I'm sure you know about him a little bit, as
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a lot of Jaguars fans do, probably more yelling at
me than anything.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But Joe always had.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
This philosophy where there's three phases to a pass rusher
or a defensive lineman. There's the get off, there the
move area, and there's the finish. The get off basically
is just out of your stance. How quick are you? Well,
if you watch Mason Graham on film, he's usually the
first guy off the ball, so he has that the
move area, What does that mean? It means in space
when someone's past setting on you, what kind of moves
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do you have? What kind of field do you have? No,
that's still coming along for Mason Graham. But like that's
probably the hardest thing to master going from the collegiate
level to the pro level. And the last, but not least,
is the finish. When when you have the corner, can
you finish it? Can you chase down a quarterback that's
five yards down the field? Mason Graham can do that
as well. And guess what those things when it comes
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to finish, when it comes to get off, those are
hard to coach.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Either you have them or you don't, and Mason Graham
has those. In Spain.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Let's say, for example, that Travis Hunter's gone, Mason Graham's gone.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Now what now we're now we're getting interested.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Now we're getting interesting, right, And I'm assuming that we
can't trade back right now, we're just gonna go the
next or what can we trade back?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Are you're the GM right now, we're gonna call you
the GM of this exercise.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, so you're trading now.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
So I'm probably gonna trade back a little bit and
try to get some more capital. And that's gonna make
your job hard because then you got a couple more guys.
And I apologize to you to day I apologize to
day two. No.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But like everybody says, there's all trade we could trade,
there's rarely trades in the first round, especially true unless
it's like up to number one. Yeah, there's always talk
about it. We can mock them and all this stuff.
It's hard to really execute those sometimes, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I think if we're not talking about a trade, then
I think we go back to the trenches again. Ah okay,
And this is where offensive line comes into play. And
now keep in mind, I get that you just paid
Walker little and I get you have Anton Harrison, so
it looks like, well, you have two tackles that are
that are short up. But this is how coaches think,
Like Liam Cohen wasn't here when Anton Walker was drafted.
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Liam Cohen wasn't here when Walker little you know, got
his new contract.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So in my eyes, they sed off a lot to
proof to Liam Cohne and company.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Right, So if I'm only if I'm you know, Liam Cohnen,
if I'm Gladstone and I'm kind of doing like a
you know, I'm sure they're gonna collaborate.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
A little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I look at a guy like, I mean, Membu right
now is the guy that's like shooting up draft boards
because he has speed?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Right he ran about a four nine four eight.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's probably fashioning I ran at the combine, which makes
me feel a little sad now, but it's all good.
So you have member who's kind of like this athletic
freak coming from the Missouri this is the Missouri tackle.
And then you have another guy in Will Campbell, where
I feel like the whole year he was kind of
towered as the best tackle. Now here's how I think
about this. I don't out of LSU, by the way, yes,
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and I won't get your opinion of this as well.
Man Like, do you go with the guy that kind
of put himself on the map due to a good combine,
or do you go with the guy who's more solidified
because of what he's done all season.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I so.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I go back to where James Gladstone has come from.
The LA Rams don't really send people to the combine, right,
and I don't know if the Jags will in the future.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
The tapes out there. You can look at the times,
you can look at all that, but I think a
lot of the true evaluation will come from the tape.
From the tape from you know, everything's great.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
In the pre draft process.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
It's a nice evaluation and it might solidify some things
you see on tape, But I think when it comes
down to the nanny gritty, it goes back to the tape,
like what did they do in the fall? Yeah, that's
what I think would go to no, And I agree,
So that means, okay, maybe Membo's okay, he had a
great combine. Well did he have a great fall? Let's
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go back and watch this again exactly. It brings you
back around and that's important to know too as well.
Where I think some gms they get so wrapped up
in the numbers, right, Like, I mean, you know, God
rest his soul. At Al Davis was still around I'm
sure Membo would look great in a Raiders jersey, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
But then there's some gms like you just mentioned where
they're they're concerned more about tape, right And I think
there's sometimes where maybe it's like a small school guy
like I was, where yeah, tape is one thing, but
then you have to show up the combine as well,
just because you have to reassure that can you handle
the workload of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
So everything's different. But I think when we talk.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
About the best tackle out of this class right now,
I lean a little more towards Will Campbell because I
think his resume in terms of what he's able to accomplish,
and you know, he didn't lose any stock at the
combine by any means, I think he would be the guy.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And it is interesting that, I mean, the Jags apparently
are not going to do any thirty visits, so you
can bring thirty players in this time of year to
talk to them, you know, they're not doing it, and
I think they're one of I think there's about four
teams that are not doing that. Yeah, So again it
goes back to the tape and the scouting. You know,
if you really want to talk to you guy, you
probably get them on to zoom and do it. But
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just getting that out of the evaluation, not altogether, but
not clouding your judgment when it comes to the tape.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
No without that. I think that's the approach. I might
be a little off on that, but that's the feeling
looking at it, and that's what it has to be,
I think. JP.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You know, when we talk about like the visits and everything,
like listen, I took my fair share of visits. I
visited Buffalo when Tim Tebow was in my draft class,
and you know, I.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Was like the fifth role, like the fifth Beatle, and.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
He was obviously like you know, Paul McCartney and and
like everybody combined like, oh, Tim Tebow's here, and I'm
just like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Were there on the same day. That was there the
same day. It was.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
It was me, Tim Tebow and Brandon Spikes another line. Yeah,
So you have you know, little Austin Lane from you know,
wherever the heck he's from in Murray State University. Then
you have you know, Captain America and Tim Tebow and
Brandon Spikes.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I was, you know, I was obviously the sea side
of a lot of those conversations. But I didn't really
learn much, you know when it comes to the business.
Like they got me in front of the board a
little bit, but it was not that of the combine, right.
So I just think sometimes visits are used more as
smoke screens than anything.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
And now there's no smoke at all. There's no smoking.
You really don't know. I love it. It's even more mysterious.
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Speaker 3 (27:29):
With new strength and conditioning staffs. We're gonna get that
out of here, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I mean, I'm not gonna be snitching out here, but
I'll I can give something from me one story. I'll
see what I can do We're on tended Excel, Jaguars
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Speaker 3 (27:44):
It is Jaguars Happy.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Out talking about you know, just doing the culture you know,
and being a cornerstone and that that review. And I've
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always wanted to be a guy to you know, be
known for that, you know, be known for a culture
and be known to you know, change culture. So I
love a good competition and I love a good challenge.
So for like, this is the perfect place for me
to go out there and show that I belong in
the NFL and belonging to be as one, you know,
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known as one of the guys that you know, changed
the culture.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Jordan Lewis cornerback from the Cowboys right after signing with
the Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Welcome back.
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Speaker 3 (28:56):
You've been to Dailies Place Austin.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Right at Dahi's place many times at a w there.
I've been to many shows, like a bunch of concerts
over there. Oh yeah, it's a good time.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
What's what's your like? What do you listen to before
a fight? Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Wow, anything and everything, honestly, but with a fight usually
you're you're kind of busy like hitting mits and everything,
so you know you don't have time to have the
headphones on too much. But uh, when I was like
playing in the league and everything in the NFL locker room,
and this would drive Joel calling insane because when I
wore my headphones, you better believe they're cranked up to eleven.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
So I was rocking anything from like we're going E
d M music, We're going like rock, We're going hip hop,
like a little bit of everything, and to the point
where Joe call and be like, turn that dang music
down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
It's too loud. You know, you know your death.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I'm like, we're all good coaches, getting trying to getting
in the Bible a little bit. But when when I
had my combine, I was probably the most nerves I
really been in terms of like getting ready to go perform,
right because at the Scouting Combat Combat. I was on
the scouting combat in Indie, and you know it's like
the underwear Olympics, right, like you're just out there for
for all to see, you know, two hundred and seventy
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whatever pound Austin with you know, some under armours Span
dex On and.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's about it.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
But I actually played a lot of Miley Cyrus part
of the USA. It was a big song at the time,
and that kind of helped call me down a little
bit and dance a little bit. So I think I
ran a four to eight at the combine, So, you know,
shout out to Miley Syrus for helped me out there.
How many reps of the bench press if.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
You do so?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Didn't do the bench press at the combine, but I
benched at my protege.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think got twenty one or twenty two. Okay, Yeah,
it's good. It's how it's all. I got these long arms.
You know what I'm saying. It's tough. Yeah, yeah, I
feel the same way. I have the same problem.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, that's the reason I don't do that with Jeff
Loggaman out Austin Laney and I'm JP Shatterick.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
We're at the Hyundai Studios on Tintin XL, Jaguars dot
com and Jaguars YouTube. April seventh, the offseason program can
began for teams with a coaching change. The Jaguars will
begin April eighth officially, so that means strength and conditioning
for the first couple weeks of the offseason program. And
that also means there's a new strength and conditioning staff
(31:06):
here as well, Austin and Eric Ciano has been in
the league for fifteen years with the Buffalo Bills. He's
the director of strength and Conditioning now for the Jaguars.
So we always hear about establishing the culture from the
head coach. He the offensive scheme and what's the terminology
and what happens on defense and everything that goes into that.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
The special team staff is the same, but hey, this
is another side of it.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
This group, the strength and conditioning staff, are the only
ones that can be on the field working with these
guys in the first couple of weeks. Yeah, there's some
classroom working things that happened. But how much of a
challenge is it for Siano, the new strength and conditioning
director to establish his program when he hasn't been able
to get in front of these guys.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Well, I mean it's definitely it's gonna be a little challenging.
And you know, and especially when we talk about strength
and conditioning coaches, right, Like usually if you're a new
coach on a new team, you bring in your own guy, right,
because you hear things in circles and you want to
be comfortable with what you know you can bring in.
Siana was in what Buffalo for I think fifteen years
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or fourteen years, which I think speaks volumes on his
resume and what he's all about. Because if you can
go through coach after coach after coach like they did
in Buffalo for a while, I think that kind of
speaks volumes to what you're bringing on the table as
your own coach, right. So I think with Siano it's
gonna be important because people think that culture is built
in training camp, and culture is built you know, maybe
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in the film room. But like he literally it's his
job to get a bunch of essentially strangers in there,
a bunch of grown men.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
To lift weights number one but number two, to.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Kind of rally together and be like, hey, this is
how we do things and everybody goes about that differently.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
And then every player has their own plan you have
to craft as well. Yes, I mean how does that
process start for a new guy coming in leading it?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I mean usually if you're a quarterback, like I think
I may have saw Blame Gabert twice in the weight
room when when I play it now. But you know,
the quarterbacks are kind of doing their own thing. It's
more mobility and stuff with their shoulders, you know, if
you're a big offensive lineman, if you're a defensive lineman,
you're throwing the real weight around and everything. But yeah,
usually you get divided up into groups and then you
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just have to go accordingly. And obviously, I mean I've
I've been with some absolute monsters in the weight room.
One that sticks out to me is Stephen Paya, who
was with I was with him in Chicago. I think
he at the time he set the combine record for
most bench press reps at two twenty five. I want
to say it was like forty something, but I remember,
like I remember going in there thinking like, all right,
(33:34):
I'm pretty strong, you know, I can hold my own
and this dude we had an exercise, but we had
a bear crawl and then you you do a tress
up extension. So for those you know basically right, so
bear crawl than that, I'm not sure you've ever done
it before.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Joe, look at me, hey man, don't assume anyway.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
So I was using the probably like forty five pounds
or whatever for twenty yards. Steven was using one hundred pounds,
that's it. And and that put it on perspective of
like there's strong and then there's like frequently strong, and
he was obviously preciously strong.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I mean, yeah, there's.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Like we talked about Aaron Donald earlier, right, I mean
those some of those and James Harrison, like these guys
are just different when it comes to weight training, correct.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, And then that's see I think nowadays, like when
I played back in the twenty ten twenty eleven, around
that time, I almost feel like strength coaches kind of
kept things a little more secret, right because you didn't
have all these YouTube videos, you didn't have Instagram. It
was more of just like the philosophies that you were taught,
and you're not gonna shame with anybody else. There's information,
there's access to everything now where you can do your
(34:35):
own strength program through an NFL team, and dude, we
can get you shdded by the time the season starts
if we want, not sure if you're in, if we want,
if we want, I mean, you have to have to
be on board with that. But but now I think
it's more about just making sure that you know, it's
about building that culture, but making sure that the players
are on the same page, right and making sure that
you're getting the best out of them, because there's the preseason,
(34:57):
there's the spring where it's okay, let's build our strength,
let's build our speed, and then probably even more important
part is during the middle of the season is making
sure we're maintaining but we're not getting.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Hurt as well. The technology. You certainly mentioned that, but
I don't. I'm gonna guess you didn't have a GPS
monitor on you when you were in Jack So the
GPS monitor started around then. Yeah, so when I was
on my way out when you were coming in. Actually,
I think was the first year they implemented the GPS monitors.
And it's crazy, like how much science now goes into
all this stuff, right, because I still feel like there's
(35:29):
some old school guys out there that are like get
these computers and you know there's no air weights, it's
all real weight and things like that. But you have
to be smart now, right, like we're talking about world
class athletes, and I think athletes now more than ever
pay attention to their bodies, what kind of fuel are
they putting into their bodies, how they're taking care of themselves.
So it has to be at a premium in terms
(35:49):
of how you're going about training these guys. And then
I mean from organization, well from one to another might
have a different philosophy on what they provide certain and
that's why of these grades come out from the NFLPA
or correct.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
And I've had my fair share of strength coaches. I've
had Luke richardson his first year here, who actually trained
brock Lesner back in the day and in the UFC
as well. Brock Lesnar came to visit a little bit
with him. He was a really big proponent on more
of like the like the air weights, so as opposed
to like using like free weights that you see at
any kind of gym that you go to. This was
more of like the high tech fancy, you know, the
(36:26):
air weights they called them. I had Tom Lozinski, former player.
This guy was a little more old school, right, like
we got all the air compressed machines out of here,
and then we go back to like the real weight,
you know, and everything like that, which was it was
a nice change of pace as well. So I've been
around a couple of philosophies, but like I said, I
think back in those days, everyone kind of had their
(36:47):
own thing. I think as we get more and more
towards social media and everyone kind of sharing their ideas,
I think it's probably gonna become a little more even
of what teams are doing now in the weight room,
and it starts back and even high school now they're
doing this stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
So kids have been trained with all this from about
fourteen years old all the way up.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I mean, I have a ten year old playing flag
football right now, and and even he knows about like
you know certain and we're just doing body with exercises
until further notice, but like even he's in on it now.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You know, it's about mobility and flexibility.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I don't know what flexibility was until my third year
in the NFL when I started doing yoga for the
first time. Like it was all about muscles, it was
all about speed, but like forget flexibility.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But it's a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It certainly is, and they'll have a lot of work
ahead of them starting April eighth, when the Jaguars began
the off season program with a new strength and conditioning staff.
We're back in a moment plenty more ahead as we
wind down on this Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I hope what they see is someone who cares.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
I hope that shows in my play. I think it
does because I do. I care a lot, care about
my teammates, I care.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
About the team. Those are the things that I want
to be evident in my play.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
They want to see a guy finishing all the way
of the whistle, picking up his teammates first one dare
to give him.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
If I'm not doing that.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Text me, shoot me, tweet me, tell me I'm not
doing it, because that's important.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
That stuff's important to me.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
It's Robert Hainsey, careful what you wish for, and it
is Jaguars Happy Hour, of course, the new Jags Center
brought on in free agency. Jaguars Happy Hour presented by
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Speaker 5 (38:40):
J P.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Shadwick with Austin Lane on this Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, I guess the tweeting at players really wasn't a
thing when you were playing either right.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Now, not so much towards towards the end of my career,
it did become a little bit. I remember one time
we put the Saints and Drew Brees may have broke
my ankles onto play action and just kind of joked
me out of my shield.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I know, Bree, I don't wry. I end up getting
him back an I didn't get.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
A quarterback sack later where he had some choice words
for me, So we were even. But yeah, a lot
of people felt the need to reach out to me
and let me know about Drew Brees breaking my ankle. Okay,
fair enough, wasn't wasn't my happiest moment. Probably not. How's
your bracket? By the way, and a basketball team starts tonight, Yeah,
it's been a lot better. Shout out to Louisville who
had in the final four, first game of the tournament,
(39:28):
they got beat. So I'm like, all right, at least
you're making it really easy on me to not invest myself.
But it's wild for how much basketball that I don't
watch during the regular season, where I think I'm an expert.
Once the tournament bracket comes out, where I think, okay,
you know, I'm gonna have some sleepers here, I'm gonna
have some quality picks.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I'm hurting right now.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
And by the way, my son who's in a so
we're like a hundred team league kind of thing, like
a hundred bracket league. I'm in like ninetieth. My son
right now is in second place and it's the first
year of playing it.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Wow. And he lets me know about it every single day.
Bet he does. He's fantastic. You know what, what about you?
How's your brother? It's not great. I don't think you know.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
We we have to do it for entertainment purposes only here, right,
So that's that's what it is. I think I picked
Duke because I like coach k but he retired three
years ago.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
He's been how much basketball I watch?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of those has been
going right now. But Alabama's playing to night. I'm not
a huge basketball fan.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Though. It's a football spring football season. Awesome, come on, man, gotcha,
it is spring football.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
It's also now baseball season, and your Milwaukee Brewers are
losing two to one of the Yankees in the top
of the six.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yep, Brewers got off to a really hot start.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Freddy Peralta on the mound decide to throw just an
absolute lob to the leadoff hitter and it was a
home run in New York. So we're off to a
fantastic start there, Jay, Yeah, big baseball guy. I'm a
big Brewers guy. If the Brewers are doing well, I
could talk baseball all day. If they're bottom of the division,
I never heard of the sport book. They've been pretty
good lately. They've been fantastic lately. Yeah, and they're really
(40:56):
like overachieving in terms of what they have in the roster.
But like this is is kind of like that small
market baseball, right, like where you develop players they do
really great, then they go to the Yankees or the
Dodgers or the Dodge right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, yeah, they're from Japan, They're going to the Dodgers.
Kind of how it seems to be going right now.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, and then of course you your last fight in
UFC was what March first, March first, so yeah, four
weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, yeah, weeks ago. Yep.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Thankfully didn't get too like beat up in my face,
and anything that wasn't a good fight for me ended
up kind of you know, taking a little bit of
a gnat. But overall, man had a great first round,
actually dropped my opponent, and the second round just got
a little too uh trigger happy, try to knock them
out and and have you weight.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
You make one mistake, it's game over. It's over.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
How long does it take to recover from that? It
all depends, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
The fight before that probably took me a little longer
because I had to get like seven stitches in the
back of my head from an illegal elbow. I've won
that fight, but that was took a little longer to
recover obviously, just with stitches and everything. But it was
a cool setup because I had to get my jersey
retired at Murray State. So I went back to Murray
State and our athletic trainer that I when I was
there was still there. I'm like, hey, you might have
(42:06):
taken these stitches out of my head, and he goes,
what are you talking about. I'm like, I got stitches
in my head, man, and like, let's try to, you know,
relive those glory days a little bit. So he ended
up taking the stitches out outstanding, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
And then on your daily regimen, like what do you
do it every day? I mean you're lighter now than
you were playing football, really.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So my regiment, man, I'm always trying
to stay active. And I always say with fighting, you know,
there really is no off season. It's got to be
a lifestyle, right, So I always try to get something
in the morning, whether it's a run, whether it's like
a weightlifting session. And then I always try to get
something in the afternoon as well. So whether that's you know, mitwork,
(42:43):
whether that's jiu jitsu, grappling, wrestling, I always try to
do something on the daily.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
So stay pretty active, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
And I've we've talked about this before, I think on
the practice field, and I'm always fascinated by the mindset
of MMA, yeah, and how you better flip to switch on, yeah,
and and what that takes to cross a certain line
and be in that threshold and in that arena. Just
a totally different mindset than a lot of people just
(43:10):
walking around the street.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
It's such a different mindset. But it's also a different
mindset than even football itself. Yeah, right, And that was
kind of like the biggest obstacle that had overcome, right,
because in football it's all based off of motion. Right,
you're talking to the guy who got in a fight
with montell Owens, like the second day of practice and
women wearing just helmets, and montell Owens was like the
nicest dude ever, Right, So so I feel like my
(43:33):
future was kind of predetermined for me if I'm fighting
montell Owens.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Gon a walk through. But you know, with that, like
with football, it's great because.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
You can let that emotion out right, Like it's a
physically demanding sport, but every play last what maybe five
to seven seconds. In fighting, if you go with that
football mentality where it's like, all right, I'm just gonna
knock you out, you'll get knocked out.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
So if you ever watch a fighter walk in a cage,
they're always calm, they're always cool, they're always collected because
you really have to be. And it's weird trying to
make that walk. And I've made that walk now. If
I cut my amateur in my pro career, I mean
like twenty seven times, twenty eight times, and every time
you make that walk, your mind is telling you like
I'm going to something dangerous and I shouldn't be doing this.
(44:15):
And you ask any fight or this, whether they're full
of machismo or not, they're tell you the same thing.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
If they're telling the truth, there is nerves and there
is your.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Mind saying like, we shouldn't be here, we shouldn't be
doing this, this isn't this is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Right. But then it's.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Wild how you go from that moment and then you
get in the cage and you kind of walk around
a little bit, and then all of a sudden, you're
like back to regranting yourself of Hey, I've done this
a million times, I've done this in practice a million times,
I can do this, and all of a sudden, like
all that nervous energy just goes away.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
That's crazy, it really is. And when's your next fight?
How does that work? So now it's kind of the
waiting game, right. So I signed a four fight deal.
That was my first fight, was my last fight, was
the first fight on a new contract.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
So we got three more fights, hopefully sometime in the summertime. Man,
But we'll see, you know, I mean, I'm I'm open
to whenever. But it's just you know, it's getting ready
for the landscape. And that's the cool thing about fighting too,
is that you can just be yourself with it, you know.
I Mean there's some guys like the Connor mcgregors of
the old who want to make it a pacade and
make it.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
A giant spectacle, kind of like Rick Flair. More power
to you.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
I'm more of the guy that's just gonna you know,
be even keeled, go with the flow and and try
to knock your head off, you know, and then that's
what it's gotta be. Yeah, And let's let's get you
back out there soon. Let's get here man.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, the Jags, as we said, will be back out
there April eighth, the start of the off season program
owners meetings.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Help me up next week.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
So down in Palm Beach, the NFL Annual Meeting, there'll
be a lot of rule changes on the table and.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
A lot of a lot of you know, I'm sure
like Hawaiian shirts being worn everything too as well.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Probably, So let's go probably some croque on the lawn.
I just saw that one year. And Boca of all things.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, yeah, the Boca Ratone Club, they have a croquet court, yeah,
grass or whatever you call it.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, I don't know what you'd call that. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Maybe maybe so it's like European, right, So I probably
there either way. So there's that going on. Of course,
there's meetings, league meetings and everything. The rule changes and
all that start will start coming out next week and
then hey, the players are in and then it's the
NFL Draft April twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, at
Green Bay of all places.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, yeah, and I might go back home for that.
We'll see you're gonna come. I mean, I'm not sure
like how green Bay is gonna host this whole thing,
because it is. You've been to Green Bay before, I have.
H Yeah, I'm very curious to what it's gonna look like. Yes,
I might just go back, just from out of curiosity.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I mean, there's nowhere really to stay there. No, No,
there's not many. I'm sure the league scooped up most
of the places there. I think our crew that we're
sending there is staying in.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Like Apples and Yeah, Appleton's like a probably like twenty
thirty minutes away.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
It's up on a little time to go get a drink.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I obviously at my mom's house actually, So we're gonna
be h re reliving the glory days of being in
high school again.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
So hopefully she's got my room clean from Maybe you
should go find that pro.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
I can find that program absolutely and bring it back
to Tony but selling they can feel old again.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
That would be hilarious if you could pull that off,
see what I can do, that would be great.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
And then on the show, Brenton Austin Britten Austin all
that strep.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
That was five times. Yep, it's still going man.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Yeah, you know, I think we're a great combination when
we talk about the jag just because of you.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I mean, Brent's there, you're the show Well, no, I'm
not the show man.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Brent does a great job of keeping us on track
because it was up to me. Man, we're all over
the road. So Brent does a great job of keeping
me in check, you know, kind of softening my rough
edges a little bit. But it's a great chemistry that
we have. We have a lot fun with it and
check it out sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Check it out? Where can we check it out?
Speaker 4 (47:39):
I mean, I am I allowed to say oh okay, yeah, okay,
I don't know man, I mean, hey, I'm a freelancer
man right now. So it's on it's it's on the
Action Sports Jack's app. But we're also on Twitter, we're
on YouTube rall around. So just type in Brent and
Austin you'll find us.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
You can find it. It's always on x I see
that all.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
It's all well because Brent retweets it like fifty times
a day. I don't do as much. Probably should a
little more. That's the name of the game. You got
to promote yourself. I'm trying that. That's something I'm trying
to learn how to care about social media again, slowly
but surely.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, it's it's hard to do.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Sometimes, especially with the MMA communities too and everything, because
usually I lose people money, so then they wanted you know,
there's a lot of did they feel like people come
out to be like, hey, you know, I lost three
thousand dollars on you, or like I bet one hundred
dollars on you.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Better win. Like that's like me going.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
To a dealership and be like, hey, I bet one
hundred dollars a you're gonna sell a car today.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
I don't know who you are, but like, best of
luck to you, bro.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
You don't know these people, I got my face smashed it.
Yeah you think I feel yeah, exactly, Yeah, I know
I was. I was a meme for my last fight.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
How do you think I feel about you losing a
couple of hundred bucks on you know, a parlay?
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Sorry funny man, Yeah, people are funny. That's the that's
the world we live in today.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
All right. So that's what's coming up, the draft coming up?
All right? So what is your optimist?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Are you optimistic about the path the Jaguars are on
to close it out today?
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:59):
I am the because we have really no idea where
we're Gladstone and company are going to go. But you
get the sense that it could be a wide receiver
or it could be an into a defensive lineman. And
if that's the case, I feel like you can't go wrong.
If Travis Hunter is going to be there, and I
feel like you can't go wrong.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
If the Michigan is going to be there.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
How about how about the organization that Liam Cohen is
putting together here?
Speaker 4 (49:23):
I like it, you know, I mean time will tell, right.
You still gotta win football games and everything, but I
think the enthusiasm. I think being able to relate to
players is a very important thing these days. You saw
how devastated they were. Sorry Tampa, but you saw how
devastated they were when he left and everything. So I
think that's gonna be a good sign of, you know,
getting the best out of these guys in lockers.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
It seems so overblown to me. What's that? I know?
Speaker 4 (49:47):
And then you have to ask permission from Tampa. I
guess if you want to play in Orlando.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
It is what I was hearing.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
We're talking some of I think there's some of that,
but like it's what it is. There's certain rules of
that stuff. Yeah, but the whole dramatic Oh, he's we're
mad at him for leaving, I know.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
I mean, the dude made a business decision. Man.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
Look it's a visit at the end of the day.
I mean, it's wild for what he gave you all.
You should be thankful.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
But we'll take him, certainly, will Austin. Great job, man,
great see you. Thanks for having me. It's been a
time and a half. Appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
It's been an hour in fact, very fast beats three hours.
Beat the three hours with Martino every day.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Let's do it again, Austin Lane bab Shadrick thanks to
Joe Fortune Auto and Brent Reaver, and thanks to you
for listening to the Jaguars Happy Hour
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