March 21, 2025 • 50 mins
J.P. Shadrick and Jeff Lageman react to how the players acquired in Free Agency will make an impact on this roster. The duo spends time on how this sets the team up for the NFL Draft, including players like Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter. Lastly, Shadrick and Lagemen share their impression on the Jaguars coaches and review rule changes. Thursday's edition of Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Dream Finders Homes.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It is Thursday, March twentieth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Jaguars Happy Out is brought to you by dream Finders'
Homes and now a guy who has Alabama in the
Final four, but then the batteries on the Xbox war
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out J P. Chack and welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by dream Finders Homes,
the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Busy hour ahead
on a not so busy week at the Miller Electric Center.
Kind of no man's land of the off season. But
we'll get to the free agency aftermath coming up. Pro
Day season is here as well, and rule change proposals
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announced yesterday. We'll crush some of those, I'm sure, and
make one of the teams who proposed them.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That's coming up. We're untinted to excel.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Am Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Logaman.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Good afterno, good afternoon, JP. How the heck are you good?
Doing good? Good?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
How's your bracket by the way, tournament?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah? Great? Great? Was going on?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I have the only reason that I know that the
bracket exists right now and that there's a tournament going on.
Is because when I walked in, you had basketball on
your laptop and somebody came in and asked you. Dylan
y asked you how your bracket was doing. I was like, uh,
I don't. I don't like I like basketball. I like
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watching it, but I just haven't watched enough of it
to actually pay attention and have an opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I mean, let's be honest. What happened he walked in?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I said, what time does Rutgers play, and that, oh, they're.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Not in So, yeah, you're kind of needling. I was
not kind of That was I was getting after it
a little bit brutal.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I think it was. That was fair, it's expected what
And I.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Got an education because I found out that Rutgers actually
has two top end prospects for the NBA draft.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
You fooled me, And.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
How in the world can you have two top prospects
that are looking to be drafted in the top ten
and then you stinked where you're not in.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
The I mean march madness.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Hey, you know we've had that around here, where we've
won an off season, You've had great players come in
and all of a sudden things get real.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, I get it. I get it. I get it,
but I perform.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Look, I would rather watch Just to be honest with you,
I would rather watch a spring football game than to
watch just a tournament game for me. But now once
it gets down to like the final game, I'll watch it,
But all of the other games leading up to it.
N the NFL, I just must watch TV for me.
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I'm gonna watch every game that I possibly can. College
football occasionally, but the NFL to me is much watched
must watch TV.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I haven't watched Oops all season. I really just I
don't watch much of it. But these two days today
and tomorrow are great background TV days for me. Like
it's on, there's always a game, it's from noon until midnight,
there's basketball.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Golf has always been good background for me. It's a
good nap time, total total.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Good nap time.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
On Sunday afternoon, you know, turn the golf on. They
start talking like Michael Roy talking real soft, and it's
just like I start getting heavy. Seriously, when I was
when I was playing football, uh, Sundays were like my
in the spring were my known nap time. I would
turn the golf on, then the lights close, the blinds
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put on golf, and then after a big meal, turn
the volume down just a little bit where they started
talking on nice and soft it's.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Over, guaranteed, Nap, guaranteed Nap, that it was a guy's
name that did golf forever, Jim nance. He still does golf,
I mean still doesn't Who who was the one that
was doing the players? Oh that's uh, that's NBCU dan Uh.
I forget his last.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Did a good job? Oh yeah, they did a good
job entertaining tournament though.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
By the way, did you go? I went Friday? I
was there Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Friday was the perfect day, light, wind, great beautifuct weather,
beautiful day. We had an event with a quarterback out there,
so that was fun. And then I think the coaches
were out there a bunch on Saturday, a bunch of them,
a chance to check it out, some of the guys
that are.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
New in town. So a lot of Jaguar influence out there. Yeah. No,
it was good.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I got to chat with a lot of the coaches
on Saturday, didn't watch a ton of golf, and then
was going to go back out on Sunday, but the
weather was a little bit prohibitive.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And then a little bit a little bit. Yeah. Dan,
by the way, is the NBC announcer Dan Hicks.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Dan Hicks, not Dan Hicken Dan Hicks. Big difference, big difference.
Now it's perfect weekend.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They got it done, the playoff on Monday, and here
we are back to football.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, back to football. Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And by the way, I had some great conversations with
the coaches and Anthony Campanilli, me and him. Man, we
chatted it up for I don't know, like an hour
talking ball football.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, it seems like a ball talking guy. He's great.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Love his energy, Love talking with him, talking with Liam,
talk with James basally was there, you know, shaking shock baby.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Imagine that that was good. I had a good time.
Love that Jaguars. You know, they had a big kind
of first run at free agency, nine guys with James
Gladstone here last week with us to go through most
of those guys, all those guys. They've since added another.
They added a tackle yesterday, Fred Johnson from the Eagles.
He's been with a couple of other teams in his
career as well. That just kind of continues a trend. Now,
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four new offensive linemen in the free agency wave, and
I'm sure I'm gonna guess least more to come in
the draft, So retooling offense.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I don't think there's any doubt that there's more coming
in the draft, and I think I think it goes
to show you how in many ways that they overestimated
the value of the current offensive line over the last
couple of years.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Now you have, you know, a completely.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
New regime come in, and that it has been the
focus of attention immediately from the free agency standpoint. And
like I said, I don't think they're done. I think
they still got work to do. The nice thing is
that what they've done so far will allow them to
draft the best available player and not force a pick
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necessarily with that offensive line or really any position I
think for the most part, but I would expect them
in rounds one, two, or three to grab an offensive lineman.
And I you know, when's the last time that they
picked multiple offensive linemen in a draft. There may be
multiple in this draft, could be and so I think
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it's going to be very exciting to watch. Look, I
like what they've done. I love Patrick, it's McCarry.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Carry and Hainesy.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I think they're they're quality players, and I think that
they can start. Fred Johnson, I think has been a
really good backup over his career and I think that
he will continue to be that for this football team.
I think he'll actually come in to compete, you know,
for a for a job.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But is he going to win it?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't know, but I can tell you this, I
think Fred Johnson's is a better backup than this football
team has had over the last couple of.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Years in the interior.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
So the guys that have been with this football team, yes,
and are still under contract, you better be having one
hell of an offseason, I can tell you that. And
you bet you better get getting bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, better,
all the above. If you had better not leave any
stone unturned.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Right because it's time, it's changing.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's no given positions. First year of the staff and
the change of an organization that that always goes out
to win.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, let's you know, we have this conversation with somebody
in the building draft pick.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I don't care, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean, how many positions players are guaranteed locks on
this team right now?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I mean there's the contractually, there's some guys I think
that are not going anywhere I mean Trevor obviously with
the guaranteed money.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Josh Allen is obviously not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Trevor Walker little new contract, guaranteed money, Trayvon.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Is obviously not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
You know, a couple guys that just recently were signed
last year, Eric Harmstead, the contract's prohibitive to where he's
going to be here.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Probably this year.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Gabe Davis probably in the same boat. You know, there
are contracts to where some guys can represent a cost savings.
There are some guys that will cost you a lot
of money to get rid of, and unless you have
a certifiable replacement at a very low cost, then you're
gonna end up keeping that player for a period of
time until that money goes down to be able to handle.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It as a hit.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Not an easy situation to be in when you have
players like that. And I think that's the one difference.
If you look at this year's free agent class and
you compared it to pass free agent classes, look at
the guaranteed money for real, look at the guaranteed money
that this draft class, Okay, excuse me, the draft class,
the free agent class that just got signed, and you
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compare that to pass free agent classes that this team
is signed. The guaranteed money is dramatically different, dramatically different,
And I'm not exactly sure of the numbers, but I
think you could take all nine, maybe even ten, count
Fred Johnson all ten, and add up the guaranteed money
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of those ten and it may equal what Eric Armstead
and Gabe Davis got last year.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's possible, entirely possible, which goes back to what I've.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Been saying, and I think what James Gladstone believes in
is that the lifeblood of every franchise is the draft,
and you have to draft well. And if you look
at the past free agent activity this football team, you
can understand that this team has not done a good
enough job drafting because they've had to pay a lot
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of money to supplement the deficiencies that this team has
had in the draft, and those.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Guys a lot of times aren't good either that in the past.
Right now, you're doubling down on it.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I mean, to be honest with you, I mean, look
at Gabe and Eric Armstead.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
They produce.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I'm about trying to pick on them by any means,
and I believe that they can be productive this year,
but last year, did they produce to the level of
expectation of the contract? Simple answer and easy answer is no.
Can they get to that point this year?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I hope so.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
But last year it didn't happen, and there's a lot
of reasons for that. It gave was hurt quite a bit.
Eric Armstead, in my opinion, was playing out of position.
You had a defensive coordinator who quite honestly didn't have
a clue. One of the worst coach football teams in
Jaguar's history last year by Ryan Nielsen. And I hope
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all of that can change. But again, to go back
to it, you've got a draft. Well, you look at
the teams that are historically good year in and year out.
They're good because why they draft well every year, and
until you draft well.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You will not be there. That's right.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So here's hoping, okay, that this change and you've got
a new regime that you will start to pick better
in the draft to change the direction of this franchise.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's my hope.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
All right, let's come back in a minute and a
couple of minutes at least, Well, we'll get into the
draft this year, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Pro Day season this year.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I saw that somebody was televising a pro day live today.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, that's an NFL network thing.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
They're going to different college pro days now, right, They've
done that for a number of years.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I mean, what are they desperate? Yeah? The people will
watch that, so I guess you know the reason. Oh no,
I wasn't watching.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I was walking down the hallway on my way here. Yeah,
they have it, and I saw and it must have
been an NFL network that was on one of the TVs,
and I saw that this pro day was being televised.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
As soon as if it's a quarterback that's big, okay,
they'll show his workout, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And and they all got shirts and everything like they
get at the combine.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Do let's go back in a moment.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
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Speaker 4 (13:01):
I hope what they see is someone who cares. I
hope that shows in my play. I think it does,
because I do. I care a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I care about my teammates, I care.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
About the team. Those are the things that I want
to be evident in my play. They want to see
a guy finishing all the way of the whistle, picking
up his teammates first one.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
There to give him.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
If I'm not doing that, text me, shoot it, tweet me,
tell me I'm not doing it, because that's that stuff's
important to me.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is Robert Hainsey brought it in a free agency of
the offensive line will define center for the Jags and
welcome back It's Happy Hour. Did he just encourage people
to text him, to tweet him, tweet him texts?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
They're not going I don't know if that was smart
or not that they're gonna do it either. What but okay,
you're opening it up.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
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Speaker 1 (14:00):
It is Pro Day season.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And what would you rather watch Pro Day or NCAA Basketball?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It depends on who I'm watching on the Pro Day,
Like if it's a quarterback, right, we were chasing quarterback
back in twenty fourteen, it was we actually went and
covered Pro days. We went to Johnny Manziel's. We went
to Teddy Bridgewaters, we went to Blake Portals. They were
all televised. And you know when the quarterbacks throw in
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a quarterback heavy top of the first right, they're gonna
see those on TV all the time, you know. So
I think it's just a matter of who it is now.
Johnny that day at A and M had like two
balls hit the ground.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Mike Evans was running.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
For him, and like George Bush and Barbara Bush were
there on a golf It was a scene, man, I
remember that. So it was interesting television, I'm sure to watch.
But now there's one conference at least that has kind
of got it together because all the schools usually have
their own pro day.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You were telling me about this pretty unique. The Big
Twelve has pro days all together.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So all the schools.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
How many schools in the Big Twelve, Well, at least twelve,
Well it's not twelve anymore, it's more than that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's probably fourteen.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, But they send their prospects all to Dallas, to
the Star where the Cowboys headquarters, and Jerry's no doubt
making a little bit of money on that guests and
so but it's March eighteenth through twenty first, different positions
each day. Okay, I think it's a brilliant idea because
all the scouts can just stay there and see all
the players in one place. Yeah, you save at least
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NFL teams are saving on a lot of travel expenses.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, because a lot of these schools are you know,
they have to sec at least they schedule them where Okay,
you can hit Auburn one day, Alabama the next, and
then go to wherever the day after that, and it's
like a week or two where everybody's together.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And with the spawning of a lot of these things
like you're talking about, I think that that's going to
further minimize the combine world workout part, which is not
good for the NFL's ratings at the Combine. But you know,
if you're a player, where would you rather work out?
Would you rather work out in February at the NFL
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Combine or would you rather wait until middle latter part
of March to give yourself a little bit more time
to get I guess you could say even better at
running or whatever else you've got to do. From a
drill standpoint, at the Pro day, you'd rather wait right,
I mean you give you a little bit more time
to prep. A lot of guys coming out of a
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season might be nicked up, beat up a little bit,
and they've been playing football. The body needs a little
bit of time to recoup and recover, and then you've
got to train for physical testing. I mean, the march
aspect of that is so much better.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Now in the February combine, you're gonna get official forty
time numbers, like they have the computerized system and everything, right,
you get to take the ones.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
At schools a little bit with a grain assault.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, I mean, if you got your guys there, you know, yeah,
then that's different. Then you're trusting your guys.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
For example, the Alabama one yesterday, okay, Jalen Milroe reportedly
ran a four to three okay, and I saw that.
I'm like, there is no way you don't think so well,
it comes out later most had him in the mid forest,
you know which pretty fast? So fast.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Was this guy bo Jackson?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I mean there might have been one guy that had
him at a four to three seven, And of course
that that grabs more JP, you know what I take it.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Come on, he's a good.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
More clicks out of four to three seven in the
headline than you do four four five. And here's the
reality about Milrose O great athlete. Yes, and if a
team is going to consider drafting them, I hope that
you're willing to have a little patience.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Just like the Colt Therough the ac South Tennessee Titans.
He is the man for you. Not everybody is a
Jaalen Hurts. You know.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
There's not a lot of quarterbacks that can make that
conversion from being a running quarterback in college to being
a passler, you know, and Jalen Hurts had a really
set of optimum circumstances to really grow into and there's
not many jobs that are going to be available that
are going to be like that the way it was
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set up in Philly for him to be able to
grow when a running game and an offensive line was
so good. Most of the teams that are going to
in need of a quarterback don't have an offensive line
like that, they don't have a running game like that,
they don't have a team like that, and so the
quarterback's going to be expected to play quarterback right away.
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You know, Jalen Hurts didn't have to do that so much.
They didn't lean on him as much. So Milrose is
a fine athlete, don't get me wrong. And he's had
games where he's been absolutely unstoppable. And I wish him well.
I wish him well.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I hope he can develop into that guy, but he's
he's a ways away. I wish he would have.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Stayed at Alabama for another year. And let me ask
you this question, as an Alabama alone, do you wish
that he had returned for another year?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
There were moments, and I don't I'm not going to
speak for the whole fan base where I'm not up
there whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Speaking for you. There was some frustration.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Around him, around him at times, and because it was
not as consistent as it could have been, or.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
What did he get from a nil standpoint, I mean,
just out of curiosity, because I mean the reality is
is a college football is professional football now. And if
the University of Alabama felt like, hey, look, we can
spend the same amount of money and get a better,
better player, do you think they could have been the
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ones that were saying, hey, look, you know we're probably
not gonna re up you for next year.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You might want to consider turning pro.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
According to this article, I don't know if I trust
this website or whatever you know they're saying I had
a total innile of evaluation of one point six million. Okay,
I had a few different things.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I don't know. I mean, you never know.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But then also, I mean, he's won some big games there, like, oh,
he's Auburn on the final play on this crazy throw
on a fourth down.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I mean, he's had moments where he's been brilliant, and
he's had moments that he has been.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Not nearly good enough.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And that just is a true, true sign of a
quarterback that's just not quite ready yet.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Cam Ward is the one that most everybody's mocking number
one of the Titans these days.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, that'll be interesting to watch. You know, have you
watched all of these guys yet? I have not watched
the quarterbacks yet, but I have. I've been watching.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I've just started this week, and so.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I'm about seven guys deep, and so every day it'll
be five to seven guys.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What are you looking at?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I watched the top seven guys in the draft, six
seven guys in the draft so far, which you know,
because I mean the Jaguars picking at five, I mean,
obviously that's kind of and that's where I really put
my concentration and energy on is with those guys. I
can tell you that from watching the guys that I
have watched so far. Travis Hunter, I don't know where
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i'd play him.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I don't. And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I think he might be co number one overall pick
of this draft, and he may be number one overall
pick for some other reasons. The way that he plays
wide receiver, it's it's effortless. It's he's the most efficient
athlete that maybe I've ever watched play football on offense.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Ever, he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Waste any steps and he and he makes it look
so easy when it's not easy. And the amount of
times that Shader Sanders is off target that Travis Hunt
or makes him look good. Right, And I you know,
because I don't watch a lot of college football, I
never really paid attention to that, but watching the film,
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this guy makes Shdr Sanders look even better than what
he may be just because got great range. And then
once he gets the ball in his hands, the speed,
the efficiency, When I say efficiency efficiency, he's running fifty
yards down the field and a lot of times guys
have to ziggin zag a whole bunch of times to
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get fifty yards. He's not having a zigginzag. He's very efficient, okay,
with his energy and his motions and his movements to
get to that fifty yards. One of the most efficient
guys I've ever watched film on.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And then he turns around and comes back and plays defense,
which is crazy every down.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I mean, you know, And because he has such great
ball skills is why he's a surefire candidate to play
wide receiver full time and to maybe dabbling defense vera.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
A lot of people saying the other way because he
worked out as a corner, But you can put a
package at wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Would you be comfortable here? And here's a here's a question.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Okay, give me a top Hall of Fame corner revs.
K Derell Revis. Give me a top Hall of Fame
wide receiver Jerry Rice. Who would you rather have, Jerry
Rice or Rivas Island.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'd like to have both, of course if I could.
But if you had to pick one, it's an offensive league.
I think I'd like to score points. And but if
you have a shut down corner that shuts down half
your field, is he that?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
If he's that, he's good. I think it's a great question.
I mean, I think it's a great question. Where is
he going to play?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'll tell you we had on Westwood one. We had
the first game of the season two years ago, Colorado
at TCU, and it was how is this thing going
to work? All these transfers are coming in, all these
guys from Jackson State, should Sanders the quarterback, Travis Hunter
was gonna be the big guy at FSU.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Is he can he make the jump?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
It was do whatever he wants? Unbelieved he had an
interception in the game. I mean, it was a back
and forth ball game. Both teams are pretty good. TCU
was coming off their loss in the championship game. They
didn't have all their horses, but I mean it was
impressive what they did the first day, first day out,
at least it.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Comes I think also when from watching it, I went
into it with the expectation that there would be packages
for him on offense, and that these packages would be limited.
You know, maybe they keep them on the left side.
Maybe he's only a slot, maybe he's only an X.
They moved him all over the place. There was no
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limitation on his learning curve for offense, which impressed the
hell out of me. So I think that's that's a
great question because everybody assumes he's going to play defensive
back and then he'll dabble in offense. I don't know
if that's necessarily true or not. I think that he
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could be an offensive player that could dabble in defense.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Great player, winner, the speed, yeeah, he's good.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Anders ought to be thanking him all the time, all
the time. And so a little bit ago, I said,
my co number one picks who was the other one
is Abdul Carter Penn State number eleven, Penn State, which
that was Michael Parson's number.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
There was a lot of people's numbers.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yes, that's the number there that you wear when you're
like the seven at l s U exactly, lebar Arrington,
those all those guys who.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Are even stud stud line them up anywhere, uh, defensive end,
as a stand up spinner, as an inside linebacker.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I think if you'll remember, right JP, going back a
few years and that I said when Miles Garrett was
coming out that there's not many It's not very often
that a guy comes out that's just the physical freak
and Miles Garrett was one of those guys, right, and partly.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Because the length.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Now, look, this guy doesn't have the length, okay, but
he's got that freakish athletic ability that is very rare,
and his stamina is gosh. I would want to say,
it's comparable to the very inside linebacker that we have
on this football team, Foyer, who has I've said this before,
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some of the greatest stamina or has the greatest stamina
of any player that arguably.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I've watched a duel.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Carter's got the same type of stamina on speed and
it's full speed. Doesn't seem to get tired, you know.
But here's the one thing that I will say about
like Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter, and these guys are
obviously just freaks. I don't know anything about their character.
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I don't know anything about their intangibles. I just look
at the film. I don't know if if you know,
if they're dumb as a box of rocks or geniuses.
I don't know that. Uh So, when when I throw
an opinion out there, it's based on what I watch
on film, and that's it. And those two guys are
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are at the top of the list. I think clearly
it's those two guys at the top. Everybody else is
fighting for third place. There you go the log even guarantee,
it's not a guarantee. I mean, it's only an opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
If Travis Hunter is there at five.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Day long over Graham over long, take them all day long.
He's got, he's got.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You put him on offense with Brian Thomas, with bt J.
Are you kidding me? Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And then give him packages on defense. Uh, as you
can tell. I kind of liked the idea of him
being an offensive player versus a defensive.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, but this team needs cornerbacks too. Oh I know that,
I know that.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
But uh yeah, it's it's a great debate.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I'd love to be in the conversation the room, listening
of the conversation when they fight over where they want
to play him. I would love the coordinate, love to see.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Going out put up your dukes.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I would love to see a A survey and the
only way that you would get to be a fit.
It was an anonymous survey of gms around the National
Football League and give you know, tell them, give me
which side of the ball that you think he deserves
or needs to be on that.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Love to see that that could change my team, right,
if you're stacked, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I would love to see that the survey of all
thirty two, and I bet you it's closer than what
a lot of people were originally thinking on Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Let's come back in a moment, and we got to
get to these rule change proposals.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Some of them are stupid, Yes, said it. Why you'll
find out? Why are you calling things stupid? Well? Have
you heard these? Yeah? Actually, okay, I don't know. Probably
agree with me. I gotta feeling you agree with me.
Are you calling? Are you calling Green Bay stupid?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I'm calling well, but I'm calling their proposals Okay, I
would never call it organization. Well, I mean the organizations
are the ones that are putting the proposals up.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, that's fine if that's what it says, it's what
it says. Okay, you are calling stupid. In a moment,
it's Jaguars Happy hour.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
We were talking about, you know, just building the culture,
you know, and being a cornerstone and that that that rebuilding.
I've always wanted to be a guy to you know,
be known for that. You know, be known for a
culture and be known to, you know, change culture. So
I love a good competition and love a good challenge.
So for like, this was the perfect place for me
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to go out there and show that I belong in
the NFL and belonging to be as one of you know,
known as one of the guys that you know, changed
the culture.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Jordan Lewis Corner most likely a Nickel welcome back. It's
Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatter, Jeff Logman or at the
Hyundai studios inside the Miller Electric Center.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
He's going to be both by the way, you know,
moving around. H Yeah, I think he.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I think Jordan Lewis is going to be Nickel and corner.
What I love about him he comes in, He's got
sweatshirt on that says grind grind mode. Okay, I'm all
for that. You know, it doesn't come in you know, fancy,
you didn't want thats sunglasses and all that. He's here
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to be a pro and he has been a pros pro.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Look.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
The one thing I think that this regime is doing
a really good job of is vetting guys, you know,
not bringing I'm trying to think of the James Gladstone
terminology to not bring the wrong types into the ecosystem. Okay,
the floor of the roster and elevating the room of
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the ecosystem by them just being them them.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, they're intangibly rich, so they just have to be themselves.
I love it. I love the way the way he talks.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But I mean the best part about it is that
you got to have that belief and you got to
stick to it. And he's sticking to it. But I
like Jordans say, he's gonna play nickel and he will
play corner. He will play both.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Love that. Daly's play schedule getting busy. What do we got?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It's been busy, It'll be back busy again in May.
May Tents, Teddy Swims, you got t pain May thirty.
First Old Dominions on the list June six. Sticks is
June second, Vampire Weekend June twelfth. The full schedule and
tickets available at Daly's Place dot com.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
All right, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Wonder if Old Dominion is from Virginia. The reason I
asked that is, I mean that's I mean, that's actually
a university in Virginia's University Norfolk, Virginia I don't think
it's in Norfolk.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I bet you it is. You think it is. I
think we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I guess we will. I'm searching Old Oh they're from
from Nashville. Old Dominion.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, nobody's from Nashville. They may have gotten together in Nashville,
but nobody's from Nashville. They chosen because it's the nickname
for the US for the members of the group have
links to Virginia.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
And this is great radio because I'm googling on the air.
It's university Old Dominion. It's in Norfolk. Okay, thank you.
Show you what I know.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I don't even know from there, man, I know this
what the heck?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
All I know is at Norfolk is a great navy town,
it is. And a little bit to the south of
there's got a great place called Virginia Beach. Yes, and
then Sandbridge Beach, a little bit south of Virginia. You
spent some time over there, did you have it? As
a kid, We used to vacation there. It was the
middle of nowhere, lots of sand, lots of sun.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's time to get into these rule change proposals. This
is the time of year we're closing in on the
NFL annual meeting.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Known as the Owner's Meetings. That's at the end of
the month.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So there are rule change proposals, a rule for BiLaw proposals,
and club resolution proposals.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
There are five eight in total. Okay, what do you
got we'll go quick. This is by Detroit.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
They want to eliminate an automatic first down as a
penalty imposed for defensive holding an illegal contact.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I like that. I'm okay with that. We're a defensive guy.
You would like that?
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I mean, look, you know it's it's been such an
offensive slanted way, you know, let them.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I think that's okay.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
But then there's no penalty for holding a guy. You're
just gonna get holding all the time. Why don't you
just grab?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
What would it be?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
It would be a yardage, right, I mean, it's okay,
but it's still if it's not an automatic first down
what they're proposing, then it would be a certain amount
of yardage.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Correct. I don't know there's that proposal that that's that's
the proposal. Okay, what do you got? What else? You got? All? Right? Next?
Green Bay. Basically, they want to eliminate the push.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Play and green Bay needs to shut up, I mean seriously,
and the keeper stop the play, okay, stop complaining about
it being a play that gets people hurt. And somebody, actually,
one of the national analysts puts this out the other day,
and somebody responded with your video of you describing how
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to stop it when the Jaguars stopped it twice against
the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Got to beat the center up. That's it. You gotta win.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
And if you look at the Eagles percentage of wins
from new center versus Kelsey the old center, the percentage
of wins dropped a little bit, I believe, imagine that. Yes,
what else you got till Bay needs the man up?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Philadelphia wants to align the postseason and regular season overtime rules.
They want both teams with an opportunity to possess the
ball regardless of the first possession outcome, and a fifteen
minute overtime in the in the regular.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Season, No, leave it the way it is.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Okay, So you like the postseason rule being different, I
do minutes both teams get the ball.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I do not not regular season it's the regular season
is a grind. Don't need to add potentially, because here's
The reality is that coaches will coach differently if they
know that they have a guaranteed possession in overtime.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
And excuse me, in the regular season. So no, I
don't like that. And by the way, defense is allowed
to play defense.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, you can play defense. You can get a team
stopped or hold them to a field goal.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I don't why are they this proposal. I don't know
what else you got. Those are the three playing rule proposals.
There are two club bylaw proposals. They're both by Detroit.
Detroit's been busy.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
They want to amend the current playoff seating FORMATT to
allow wild card teams to be seated higher than division
champions if the wildcard team has a better regular season record.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I do not like this at all. I don't like
that at all. Either. Division championships matter.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It totally matters, and it makes end of the season
games interesting. Okay, So Detroit is just trying to capitalize
on what could have been for then this past year.
If Minnesota had captured the division title, then Detroit would
not have had home field advantage. Correct, But Detroit won
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They won a division, Yeah, because they could have lost
the division and then been a non top seed in
the NFC, and they wouldn't have had home games. They
would have gone to a team that had a lesser
record than them. Correct, Well, I don't like that because
you have to have the importance of winning the divisions.
It makes the game and the games at the end
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of the year meaningful, totally meaningful.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Detroit was fifteen to two to your point, Minnesota fourteen
and three. Correct, But if Minnesota doesn't like that, you know, don't.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Lose three games. Guess what?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Well, but it was proposed by Detroit. I know, I'm
just saying, which they won the division. So I mean
like you would have thought that Minnesota would have propose that.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Right in general, That's what I'm saying. If you don't
like it as a well, play better, play better when
you know when.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Your division not that That's that's the beauty of saying
it's not that hard that of having divisions?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Is it fair at the end of the day, Is
it fair to have a Minnesota Vikings team that was
fourteen and three that had to go on a road
Who do they play in.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
The first round? Remember how to Curio?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
They played the uh and Rams had a lesser record
and they got they got whooped.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Ye, so well yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I'd like division games. I'd like the importance of division games,
and you can make the schedule, particularly at the end
of year, more meaningful, as the NFL has done over
the last couple of years by having division matchups, And
if you take that away, then I think it lessens
the value of the end of the schedule and it
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lessens the value of the division titles. Detroit can stick
it up the word something wow, okay, Detroit, I agree
with you. Another Detroit went on the BiLaw proposal. This
is to exclude from the ninety player limit a player
placed unreserve injured before or on the day of the
roster reduction of fifty three, unless such a player is
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designated for returns. It's basically just like a roster management
into the preseason thing.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
So I don't know. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
We all about more guys being available, that's fine. They're
kind of going that way.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
So they're trying to put guys on essentially on IR
before the final cutdowns and still have the capability of
bringing them back to the active RUSS.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, that's kind of the idea. Whatever, It's fine. I'm
okay either way. On that one.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
It doesn't bother me if you limit it, you know,
because you don't want them stashing a bunch of guys
on IR and then all of a sudden, you know,
you don't have other teams that can pluck guys off
of that roster.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I don't know about that. It's got to be limited
in some fashion.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We got three club resolution proposals to get through quickly
here by Pittsburgh. They want to permit clubs during the
two day negotiation period before free agency to have one
video or phone call with a prospective free agent and
his agent, a free agent and the player agent, and
permit clubs to arrange for the players travel upon agreeing
to terms with an unrestricted free agent, so they cannot
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talk to the player right now until the start of
the league year. Those two days, they have to talk
technically with the agent during the legal tampering period. That's
all they want to do is to legitimize talking to
the player during the legal tampering period, which I'm totally
okay with.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
It's you know, but then again.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
If you allow that to happen, then all of a sudden,
the illegal tampering period, because there's already illegal tampering going
on before the illegal tampering period.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Now there's going to be even more illegal.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Tampering prior to the illegal tampering period, which you'll be
able to allow to talk to the player. But then
teams will go ahead and try to talk to the
player before the league tampering period if they're now allowed
to talk to the club during that period, not this team.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You see what I mean, It just doesn't end. I mean,
it's just it's a centralest thing. Come on, all right,
next one, we've got seven teams. Baltimore, Cleveland, Houston, Vegas, Minnesota, Philly,
and Washington are proposing to permit clubs to prepare kicking balls,
the k balls before game day, similar to what they
can do for game fo. Well, they used to allow
them to do that, but then they were like put
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them in dryers and stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Right, Well, they were yees putting putting them in dryers.
They were rubbing the balls down, they were pressing them essentially,
trying to make the balls fatter, to make them more bouncy,
you know, to get more distance than everything else.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Let them let them doctor them up, you know, as
long as you know as long as each team gets
to doctor the balls, let them doctor the balls better
accuracy on field goals, longer field goals.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
And then one more that's really not a huge deal.
Washington wants to permit clubs that may qualify for the
postseason to get scouting credentials for two consecutive games played
by a potential postseason opponent in the final two weeks
of the regular season. So this is more just kind
of deep, deep football stuff. There you go, we're back
in a moment. Did you hate all these?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Did you? I think we're kind of fitting. I mean,
I'm okay with some. I don't like the playoff seating change,
like keep it as Yeah, that's come on.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
And by the way, why don't we have to have
lasers do the first down this year?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Like what's wrong with the chain game?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
You're gonna try that out instead of so are we're
going to eliminate the chain game?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
No, they're still there as a backup. You sure, that's
what they said. Okay, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Come on, if technology is there, then let's utilize it.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Let's come back in a moment, hold that thought. This
is Jaguars happy hour.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
We've done a lot of really successful things. It's out
every tool in the bag that you needed to successful.
So I told him, like, I'm here to help you
as much as as much as you'd like. I like
to think to my familiarity with the system and concepts
that we're gonna run and the way to operate. I
feel like that's gonna be beneficial for Trevor in the
whole room. And uh, I can't wait to get started.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
That is the voice of Nick Mullens, free agent quarterback
signed by the Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
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Speaker 1 (43:38):
Good Birmingham area guy, Nick Mullins is that right, where
do you go to?
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Spain Park High School? Which didn't exist when I was
in high school? That's how old I am, Okay down
south kind of near Hoover and then he went to
Southern miss Okay. I think you get committed to like
UAB and then just changed went to Southern miss.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I've got a little money under the table and changed
his mind. I don't know what's going on down.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
There whatever, but I mean the guy's been around, he's
had some starts in the league.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
He was even under the table and he was playing
or was it over the table? Oh, I think it
was under back then, you know, if you know, you know.
I think it's a great I don't say great. It's
a good thing that you sign a quarterback that has
familiarity with the system. I think it helps the room.
I think it helps the roster as a whole when
you have a quarterback and that doesn't necessarily, like I said,
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not necessarily the starter, but when you're entering a new
era of a new system, to help that along.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
And so I like that.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Good job by Liam and James and Udinsky to bring
in a guy that's got that familiarity.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah the last three years with Minnesota and yeah, I
think it's gonna be interesting. I've kind of I was
asking this question kind of off the record with some
guys coaches, and so when you when you have Liam,
Khane and Udinsky coming in, right, is the terminology now
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the same as it was in Tampa. Is the terminology
the same as it was in Minnesota? Or do you
create a completely new language so that nobody knows what
your audibles are? Terminology?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
That's it, right, right? So to what he can use
Rosetta stone and figure out what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
The whole new language, well, I mean it's you know,
it's I think it's interesting. And that's a and from
what I understand that they have completed a new language
for it. Okay, so I'm sure some of the concepts
will be the same, but I'm from what I understand
and I've been told, is that the language is different.
Now how different is probably there's different degrees than all
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of that. But I and look, I hope that and
I'm not sure what the what amount of homework Trevor
can do now you know they have all these restrictions
much I mean, you know, they show up in the
buildings where he can be, what he can do, what
he can get, you know, which I think is just
a it's an archaic rule.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Does you make any sense? You should you would propose that, Hey, let's.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Get absolutely absolutely, I mean some of the and look,
I understand why some of the rules have been in
place because of the union negotiated to limit the amount
of time that the players were getting asked to be
at the building. But the last time I checked, I mean,
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just like in this football team's case, Okay, you've got
a quarter billion dollars committed to Trevor in contract. I mean,
shouldn't that quarterback be allowed to maybe have meetings with
coaches and learn the system. So I think that's the
part why the rules in place, that some might make
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that more than just a hey, if you want to come,
They would make it mandatory, which I mean you could
argue that if you're paying tw hundred and fifty million dollars,
it should be mandatory. Look, it's professional football, Okay, this
is not college football where we're trying. These guys got
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classes to go to. Okay, let the players come in
and work out in the building. Let them talk with
the coaches, especially when you have new regimes. I mean,
it makes no sense that you wouldn't encourage that stuff.
I think that the league obviously would like to see
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that change. The Union, for whatever reason, holds on to
it like it's some piece of pie that can't be
given up without something great in return. Look, if it's
making the game better, then do it.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
But all right, you were a player REP, You're a VP,
weren't you the Union?
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, and I think this rule is dumb when you played,
would you want this rule in place?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (48:14):
I think there needs to be more access from the
players in the facility and the coaches than what is
what is today, you know. And I'm not saying that
they need to like start coming into work in February.
I'm not saying that, but I mean this restriction that
they have in place about limited exposure with the coaches
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and everything is just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Well, they have the rule in where if there is
a head coaching change, you get two extra weeks of
offseason program correct April seventh.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, you get one extra week essentially of OTAs. Yeah,
basically on top.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Of that, right yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
I mean look, I mean, if it's me, I want
to have my quarterbacks and someone guys getting the language
in March if possible. I mean, you know, look for
every team, I think that once their season ends ends,
there needs to be a period of time to where okay,
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look can't do anything. And I'm for that, but I mean, yeah,
certain teams that were done the first week of January, right, yeah,
we were one of those, Okay, and now all of
a sudden, Okay, all of January to the first week
of February to the first week of March to the
first week of April. That's three months of essentially, Oh no,
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you can't do anything with the coaches.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
You can't do any kind of.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Organized workouts or anything like that. Like I want my
guys in the building being supervised under professionals, okay, instead
of having to be a gym rat somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
It's just it doesn't make any sense. Logs, we made
it through another hour.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
I might again old and cranky or yes, I mean
you're getting very old. And that's not old and cranky though,
is it.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's old? I'll say that.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
I mean shouldn't I mean, shouldn't a quarterback be able
to get a playbook and meet with the coach?
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Jeff Logerman, I'm J. P. Shadwick. Thanks her entire crewch
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Kind of no man's land of the off season. But
we'll get to the free agency aftermath coming up. Pro
Day season is here as well, and rule change proposals
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announced yesterday. We'll crush some of those, I'm sure, and
make one of the teams who proposed them.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That's coming up. We're untinted to excel.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Am Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Logaman.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Good afterno, good afternoon, JP. How the heck are you good?
Doing good? Good?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
How's your bracket by the way, tournament?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah? Great? Great? Was going on?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I have the only reason that I know that the
bracket exists right now and that there's a tournament going on.
Is because when I walked in, you had basketball on
your laptop and somebody came in and asked you. Dylan
y asked you how your bracket was doing. I was like, uh,
I don't. I don't like I like basketball. I like
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watching it, but I just haven't watched enough of it
to actually pay attention and have an opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I mean, let's be honest. What happened he walked in?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I said, what time does Rutgers play, and that, oh, they're.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Not in So, yeah, you're kind of needling. I was
not kind of That was I was getting after it
a little bit brutal.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I think it was. That was fair, it's expected what
And I.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Got an education because I found out that Rutgers actually
has two top end prospects for the NBA draft.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
You fooled me, And.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
How in the world can you have two top prospects
that are looking to be drafted in the top ten
and then you stinked where you're not in.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
The I mean march madness.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Hey, you know we've had that around here, where we've
won an off season, You've had great players come in
and all of a sudden things get real.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, I get it. I get it. I get it,
but I perform.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Look, I would rather watch Just to be honest with you,
I would rather watch a spring football game than to
watch just a tournament game for me. But now once
it gets down to like the final game, I'll watch it,
But all of the other games leading up to it.
N the NFL, I just must watch TV for me.
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I'm gonna watch every game that I possibly can. College
football occasionally, but the NFL to me is much watched
must watch TV.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I haven't watched Oops all season. I really just I
don't watch much of it. But these two days today
and tomorrow are great background TV days for me. Like
it's on, there's always a game, it's from noon until midnight,
there's basketball.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Golf has always been good background for me. It's a
good nap time, total total.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Good nap time.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
On Sunday afternoon, you know, turn the golf on. They
start talking like Michael Roy talking real soft, and it's
just like I start getting heavy. Seriously, when I was
when I was playing football, uh, Sundays were like my
in the spring were my known nap time. I would
turn the golf on, then the lights close, the blinds
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put on golf, and then after a big meal, turn
the volume down just a little bit where they started
talking on nice and soft it's.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Over, guaranteed, Nap, guaranteed Nap, that it was a guy's
name that did golf forever, Jim nance. He still does golf,
I mean still doesn't Who who was the one that
was doing the players? Oh that's uh, that's NBCU dan Uh.
I forget his last.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Did a good job? Oh yeah, they did a good
job entertaining tournament though.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
By the way, did you go? I went Friday? I
was there Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Friday was the perfect day, light, wind, great beautifuct weather,
beautiful day. We had an event with a quarterback out there,
so that was fun. And then I think the coaches
were out there a bunch on Saturday, a bunch of them,
a chance to check it out, some of the guys
that are.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
New in town. So a lot of Jaguar influence out there. Yeah. No,
it was good.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I got to chat with a lot of the coaches
on Saturday, didn't watch a ton of golf, and then
was going to go back out on Sunday, but the
weather was a little bit prohibitive.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And then a little bit a little bit. Yeah. Dan,
by the way, is the NBC announcer Dan Hicks.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Dan Hicks, not Dan Hicken Dan Hicks. Big difference, big difference.
Now it's perfect weekend.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They got it done, the playoff on Monday, and here
we are back to football.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, back to football. Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And by the way, I had some great conversations with
the coaches and Anthony Campanilli, me and him. Man, we
chatted it up for I don't know, like an hour
talking ball football.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, it seems like a ball talking guy. He's great.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Love his energy, Love talking with him, talking with Liam,
talk with James basally was there, you know, shaking shock baby.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Imagine that that was good. I had a good time.
Love that Jaguars. You know, they had a big kind
of first run at free agency, nine guys with James
Gladstone here last week with us to go through most
of those guys, all those guys. They've since added another.
They added a tackle yesterday, Fred Johnson from the Eagles.
He's been with a couple of other teams in his
career as well. That just kind of continues a trend. Now,
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four new offensive linemen in the free agency wave, and
I'm sure I'm gonna guess least more to come in
the draft, So retooling offense.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I don't think there's any doubt that there's more coming
in the draft, and I think I think it goes
to show you how in many ways that they overestimated
the value of the current offensive line over the last
couple of years.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Now you have, you know, a completely.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
New regime come in, and that it has been the
focus of attention immediately from the free agency standpoint. And
like I said, I don't think they're done. I think
they still got work to do. The nice thing is
that what they've done so far will allow them to
draft the best available player and not force a pick
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necessarily with that offensive line or really any position I
think for the most part, but I would expect them
in rounds one, two, or three to grab an offensive lineman.
And I you know, when's the last time that they
picked multiple offensive linemen in a draft. There may be
multiple in this draft, could be and so I think
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it's going to be very exciting to watch. Look, I
like what they've done. I love Patrick, it's McCarry.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Carry and Hainesy.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I think they're they're quality players, and I think that
they can start. Fred Johnson, I think has been a
really good backup over his career and I think that
he will continue to be that for this football team.
I think he'll actually come in to compete, you know,
for a for a job.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But is he going to win it?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't know, but I can tell you this, I
think Fred Johnson's is a better backup than this football
team has had over the last couple of.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Years in the interior.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
So the guys that have been with this football team, yes,
and are still under contract, you better be having one
hell of an offseason, I can tell you that. And
you bet you better get getting bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, better,
all the above. If you had better not leave any
stone unturned.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Right because it's time, it's changing.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's no given positions. First year of the staff and
the change of an organization that that always goes out
to win.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, let's you know, we have this conversation with somebody
in the building draft pick.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I don't care, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean, how many positions players are guaranteed locks on
this team right now?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I mean there's the contractually, there's some guys I think
that are not going anywhere I mean Trevor obviously with
the guaranteed money.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Josh Allen is obviously not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Trevor Walker little new contract, guaranteed money, Trayvon.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Is obviously not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
You know, a couple guys that just recently were signed
last year, Eric Harmstead, the contract's prohibitive to where he's
going to be here.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Probably this year.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Gabe Davis probably in the same boat. You know, there
are contracts to where some guys can represent a cost savings.
There are some guys that will cost you a lot
of money to get rid of, and unless you have
a certifiable replacement at a very low cost, then you're
gonna end up keeping that player for a period of
time until that money goes down to be able to handle.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It as a hit.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Not an easy situation to be in when you have
players like that. And I think that's the one difference.
If you look at this year's free agent class and
you compared it to pass free agent classes, look at
the guaranteed money for real, look at the guaranteed money
that this draft class, Okay, excuse me, the draft class,
the free agent class that just got signed, and you
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compare that to pass free agent classes that this team
is signed. The guaranteed money is dramatically different, dramatically different,
And I'm not exactly sure of the numbers, but I
think you could take all nine, maybe even ten, count
Fred Johnson all ten, and add up the guaranteed money
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of those ten and it may equal what Eric Armstead
and Gabe Davis got last year.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's possible, entirely possible, which goes back to what I've.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Been saying, and I think what James Gladstone believes in
is that the lifeblood of every franchise is the draft,
and you have to draft well. And if you look
at the past free agent activity this football team, you
can understand that this team has not done a good
enough job drafting because they've had to pay a lot
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of money to supplement the deficiencies that this team has
had in the draft, and those.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Guys a lot of times aren't good either that in the past.
Right now, you're doubling down on it.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I mean, to be honest with you, I mean, look
at Gabe and Eric Armstead.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
They produce.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I'm about trying to pick on them by any means,
and I believe that they can be productive this year,
but last year, did they produce to the level of
expectation of the contract? Simple answer and easy answer is no.
Can they get to that point this year?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I hope so.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
But last year it didn't happen, and there's a lot
of reasons for that. It gave was hurt quite a bit.
Eric Armstead, in my opinion, was playing out of position.
You had a defensive coordinator who quite honestly didn't have
a clue. One of the worst coach football teams in
Jaguar's history last year by Ryan Nielsen. And I hope
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all of that can change. But again, to go back
to it, you've got a draft. Well, you look at
the teams that are historically good year in and year out.
They're good because why they draft well every year, and
until you draft well.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You will not be there. That's right.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So here's hoping, okay, that this change and you've got
a new regime that you will start to pick better
in the draft to change the direction of this franchise.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's my hope.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
All right, let's come back in a minute and a
couple of minutes at least, Well, we'll get into the
draft this year, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Pro Day season this year.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I saw that somebody was televising a pro day live today.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, that's an NFL network thing.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
They're going to different college pro days now, right, They've
done that for a number of years.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I mean, what are they desperate? Yeah? The people will
watch that, so I guess you know the reason. Oh no,
I wasn't watching.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I was walking down the hallway on my way here. Yeah,
they have it, and I saw and it must have
been an NFL network that was on one of the TVs,
and I saw that this pro day was being televised.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
As soon as if it's a quarterback that's big, okay,
they'll show his workout, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And and they all got shirts and everything like they
get at the combine.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Do let's go back in a moment.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
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Speaker 4 (13:01):
I hope what they see is someone who cares. I
hope that shows in my play. I think it does,
because I do. I care a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I care about my teammates, I care.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
About the team. Those are the things that I want
to be evident in my play. They want to see
a guy finishing all the way of the whistle, picking
up his teammates first one.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
There to give him.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
If I'm not doing that, text me, shoot it, tweet me,
tell me I'm not doing it, because that's that stuff's
important to me.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is Robert Hainsey brought it in a free agency of
the offensive line will define center for the Jags and
welcome back It's Happy Hour. Did he just encourage people
to text him, to tweet him, tweet him texts?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
They're not going I don't know if that was smart
or not that they're gonna do it either. What but okay,
you're opening it up.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
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Speaker 1 (14:00):
It is Pro Day season.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And what would you rather watch Pro Day or NCAA Basketball?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It depends on who I'm watching on the Pro Day,
Like if it's a quarterback, right, we were chasing quarterback
back in twenty fourteen, it was we actually went and
covered Pro days. We went to Johnny Manziel's. We went
to Teddy Bridgewaters, we went to Blake Portals. They were
all televised. And you know when the quarterbacks throw in
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a quarterback heavy top of the first right, they're gonna
see those on TV all the time, you know. So
I think it's just a matter of who it is now.
Johnny that day at A and M had like two
balls hit the ground.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Mike Evans was running.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
For him, and like George Bush and Barbara Bush were
there on a golf It was a scene, man, I
remember that. So it was interesting television, I'm sure to watch.
But now there's one conference at least that has kind
of got it together because all the schools usually have
their own pro day.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You were telling me about this pretty unique. The Big
Twelve has pro days all together.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So all the schools.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
How many schools in the Big Twelve, Well, at least twelve,
Well it's not twelve anymore, it's more than that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's probably fourteen.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, But they send their prospects all to Dallas, to
the Star where the Cowboys headquarters, and Jerry's no doubt
making a little bit of money on that guests and
so but it's March eighteenth through twenty first, different positions
each day. Okay, I think it's a brilliant idea because
all the scouts can just stay there and see all
the players in one place. Yeah, you save at least
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NFL teams are saving on a lot of travel expenses.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, because a lot of these schools are you know,
they have to sec at least they schedule them where Okay,
you can hit Auburn one day, Alabama the next, and
then go to wherever the day after that, and it's
like a week or two where everybody's together.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And with the spawning of a lot of these things
like you're talking about, I think that that's going to
further minimize the combine world workout part, which is not
good for the NFL's ratings at the Combine. But you know,
if you're a player, where would you rather work out?
Would you rather work out in February at the NFL
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Combine or would you rather wait until middle latter part
of March to give yourself a little bit more time
to get I guess you could say even better at
running or whatever else you've got to do. From a
drill standpoint, at the Pro day, you'd rather wait right,
I mean you give you a little bit more time
to prep. A lot of guys coming out of a
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season might be nicked up, beat up a little bit,
and they've been playing football. The body needs a little
bit of time to recoup and recover, and then you've
got to train for physical testing. I mean, the march
aspect of that is so much better.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Now in the February combine, you're gonna get official forty
time numbers, like they have the computerized system and everything, right,
you get to take the ones.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
At schools a little bit with a grain assault.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, I mean, if you got your guys there, you know, yeah,
then that's different. Then you're trusting your guys.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
For example, the Alabama one yesterday, okay, Jalen Milroe reportedly
ran a four to three okay, and I saw that.
I'm like, there is no way you don't think so well,
it comes out later most had him in the mid forest,
you know which pretty fast? So fast.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Was this guy bo Jackson?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I mean there might have been one guy that had
him at a four to three seven, And of course
that that grabs more JP, you know what I take it.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Come on, he's a good.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
More clicks out of four to three seven in the
headline than you do four four five. And here's the
reality about Milrose O great athlete. Yes, and if a
team is going to consider drafting them, I hope that
you're willing to have a little patience.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Just like the Colt Therough the ac South Tennessee Titans.
He is the man for you. Not everybody is a
Jaalen Hurts. You know.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
There's not a lot of quarterbacks that can make that
conversion from being a running quarterback in college to being
a passler, you know, and Jalen Hurts had a really
set of optimum circumstances to really grow into and there's
not many jobs that are going to be available that
are going to be like that the way it was
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set up in Philly for him to be able to
grow when a running game and an offensive line was
so good. Most of the teams that are going to
in need of a quarterback don't have an offensive line
like that, they don't have a running game like that,
they don't have a team like that, and so the
quarterback's going to be expected to play quarterback right away.
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You know, Jalen Hurts didn't have to do that so much.
They didn't lean on him as much. So Milrose is
a fine athlete, don't get me wrong. And he's had
games where he's been absolutely unstoppable. And I wish him well.
I wish him well.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I hope he can develop into that guy, but he's
he's a ways away. I wish he would have.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Stayed at Alabama for another year. And let me ask
you this question, as an Alabama alone, do you wish
that he had returned for another year?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
There were moments, and I don't I'm not going to
speak for the whole fan base where I'm not up
there whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Speaking for you. There was some frustration.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Around him, around him at times, and because it was
not as consistent as it could have been, or.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
What did he get from a nil standpoint, I mean,
just out of curiosity, because I mean the reality is
is a college football is professional football now. And if
the University of Alabama felt like, hey, look, we can
spend the same amount of money and get a better,
better player, do you think they could have been the
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ones that were saying, hey, look, you know we're probably
not gonna re up you for next year.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You might want to consider turning pro.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
According to this article, I don't know if I trust
this website or whatever you know they're saying I had
a total innile of evaluation of one point six million. Okay,
I had a few different things.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I don't know. I mean, you never know.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But then also, I mean, he's won some big games there, like, oh,
he's Auburn on the final play on this crazy throw
on a fourth down.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I mean, he's had moments where he's been brilliant, and
he's had moments that he has been.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Not nearly good enough.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And that just is a true, true sign of a
quarterback that's just not quite ready yet.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Cam Ward is the one that most everybody's mocking number
one of the Titans these days.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, that'll be interesting to watch. You know, have you
watched all of these guys yet? I have not watched
the quarterbacks yet, but I have. I've been watching.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I've just started this week, and so.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I'm about seven guys deep, and so every day it'll
be five to seven guys.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What are you looking at?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I watched the top seven guys in the draft, six
seven guys in the draft so far, which you know,
because I mean the Jaguars picking at five, I mean,
obviously that's kind of and that's where I really put
my concentration and energy on is with those guys. I
can tell you that from watching the guys that I
have watched so far. Travis Hunter, I don't know where
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i'd play him.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I don't. And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I think he might be co number one overall pick
of this draft, and he may be number one overall
pick for some other reasons. The way that he plays
wide receiver, it's it's effortless. It's he's the most efficient
athlete that maybe I've ever watched play football on offense.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Ever, he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Waste any steps and he and he makes it look
so easy when it's not easy. And the amount of
times that Shader Sanders is off target that Travis Hunt
or makes him look good. Right, And I you know,
because I don't watch a lot of college football, I
never really paid attention to that, but watching the film,
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this guy makes Shdr Sanders look even better than what
he may be just because got great range. And then
once he gets the ball in his hands, the speed,
the efficiency, When I say efficiency efficiency, he's running fifty
yards down the field and a lot of times guys
have to ziggin zag a whole bunch of times to
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get fifty yards. He's not having a zigginzag. He's very efficient, okay,
with his energy and his motions and his movements to
get to that fifty yards. One of the most efficient
guys I've ever watched film on.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And then he turns around and comes back and plays defense,
which is crazy every down.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I mean, you know, And because he has such great
ball skills is why he's a surefire candidate to play
wide receiver full time and to maybe dabbling defense vera.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
A lot of people saying the other way because he
worked out as a corner, But you can put a
package at wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Would you be comfortable here? And here's a here's a question.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Okay, give me a top Hall of Fame corner revs.
K Derell Revis. Give me a top Hall of Fame
wide receiver Jerry Rice. Who would you rather have, Jerry
Rice or Rivas Island.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'd like to have both, of course if I could.
But if you had to pick one, it's an offensive league.
I think I'd like to score points. And but if
you have a shut down corner that shuts down half
your field, is he that?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
If he's that, he's good. I think it's a great question.
I mean, I think it's a great question. Where is
he going to play?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'll tell you we had on Westwood one. We had
the first game of the season two years ago, Colorado
at TCU, and it was how is this thing going
to work? All these transfers are coming in, all these
guys from Jackson State, should Sanders the quarterback, Travis Hunter
was gonna be the big guy at FSU.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Is he can he make the jump?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
It was do whatever he wants? Unbelieved he had an
interception in the game. I mean, it was a back
and forth ball game. Both teams are pretty good. TCU
was coming off their loss in the championship game. They
didn't have all their horses, but I mean it was
impressive what they did the first day, first day out,
at least it.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Comes I think also when from watching it, I went
into it with the expectation that there would be packages
for him on offense, and that these packages would be limited.
You know, maybe they keep them on the left side.
Maybe he's only a slot, maybe he's only an X.
They moved him all over the place. There was no
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limitation on his learning curve for offense, which impressed the
hell out of me. So I think that's that's a
great question because everybody assumes he's going to play defensive
back and then he'll dabble in offense. I don't know
if that's necessarily true or not. I think that he
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could be an offensive player that could dabble in defense.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Great player, winner, the speed, yeeah, he's good.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Anders ought to be thanking him all the time, all
the time. And so a little bit ago, I said,
my co number one picks who was the other one
is Abdul Carter Penn State number eleven, Penn State, which
that was Michael Parson's number.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
There was a lot of people's numbers.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yes, that's the number there that you wear when you're
like the seven at l s U exactly, lebar Arrington,
those all those guys who.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Are even stud stud line them up anywhere, uh, defensive end,
as a stand up spinner, as an inside linebacker.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I think if you'll remember, right JP, going back a
few years and that I said when Miles Garrett was
coming out that there's not many It's not very often
that a guy comes out that's just the physical freak
and Miles Garrett was one of those guys, right, and partly.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Because the length.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Now, look, this guy doesn't have the length, okay, but
he's got that freakish athletic ability that is very rare,
and his stamina is gosh. I would want to say,
it's comparable to the very inside linebacker that we have
on this football team, Foyer, who has I've said this before,
(26:49):
some of the greatest stamina or has the greatest stamina
of any player that arguably.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I've watched a duel.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Carter's got the same type of stamina on speed and
it's full speed. Doesn't seem to get tired, you know.
But here's the one thing that I will say about
like Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter, and these guys are
obviously just freaks. I don't know anything about their character.
(27:18):
I don't know anything about their intangibles. I just look
at the film. I don't know if if you know,
if they're dumb as a box of rocks or geniuses.
I don't know that. Uh So, when when I throw
an opinion out there, it's based on what I watch
on film, and that's it. And those two guys are
(27:40):
are at the top of the list. I think clearly
it's those two guys at the top. Everybody else is
fighting for third place. There you go the log even guarantee,
it's not a guarantee. I mean, it's only an opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
If Travis Hunter is there at five.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Day long over Graham over long, take them all day long.
He's got, he's got.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You put him on offense with Brian Thomas, with bt J.
Are you kidding me? Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And then give him packages on defense. Uh, as you
can tell. I kind of liked the idea of him
being an offensive player versus a defensive.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, but this team needs cornerbacks too. Oh I know that,
I know that.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
But uh yeah, it's it's a great debate.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I'd love to be in the conversation the room, listening
of the conversation when they fight over where they want
to play him. I would love the coordinate, love to see.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Going out put up your dukes.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I would love to see a A survey and the
only way that you would get to be a fit.
It was an anonymous survey of gms around the National
Football League and give you know, tell them, give me
which side of the ball that you think he deserves
or needs to be on that.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Love to see that that could change my team, right,
if you're stacked, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I would love to see that the survey of all
thirty two, and I bet you it's closer than what
a lot of people were originally thinking on Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Let's come back in a moment, and we got to
get to these rule change proposals.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Some of them are stupid, Yes, said it. Why you'll
find out? Why are you calling things stupid? Well? Have
you heard these? Yeah? Actually, okay, I don't know. Probably
agree with me. I gotta feeling you agree with me.
Are you calling? Are you calling Green Bay stupid?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I'm calling well, but I'm calling their proposals Okay, I
would never call it organization. Well, I mean the organizations
are the ones that are putting the proposals up.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, that's fine if that's what it says, it's what
it says. Okay, you are calling stupid. In a moment,
it's Jaguars Happy hour.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
We were talking about, you know, just building the culture,
you know, and being a cornerstone and that that that rebuilding.
I've always wanted to be a guy to you know,
be known for that. You know, be known for a
culture and be known to, you know, change culture. So
I love a good competition and love a good challenge.
So for like, this was the perfect place for me
(30:37):
to go out there and show that I belong in
the NFL and belonging to be as one of you know,
known as one of the guys that you know, changed
the culture.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Jordan Lewis Corner most likely a Nickel welcome back. It's
Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatter, Jeff Logman or at the
Hyundai studios inside the Miller Electric Center.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
He's going to be both by the way, you know,
moving around. H Yeah, I think he.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I think Jordan Lewis is going to be Nickel and corner.
What I love about him he comes in, He's got
sweatshirt on that says grind grind mode. Okay, I'm all
for that. You know, it doesn't come in you know, fancy,
you didn't want thats sunglasses and all that. He's here
(31:21):
to be a pro and he has been a pros pro.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Look.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
The one thing I think that this regime is doing
a really good job of is vetting guys, you know,
not bringing I'm trying to think of the James Gladstone
terminology to not bring the wrong types into the ecosystem. Okay,
the floor of the roster and elevating the room of
(31:49):
the ecosystem by them just being them them.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, they're intangibly rich, so they just have to be themselves.
I love it. I love the way the way he talks.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But I mean the best part about it is that
you got to have that belief and you got to
stick to it. And he's sticking to it. But I
like Jordans say, he's gonna play nickel and he will
play corner. He will play both.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Love that. Daly's play schedule getting busy. What do we got?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It's been busy, It'll be back busy again in May.
May Tents, Teddy Swims, you got t pain May thirty.
First Old Dominions on the list June six. Sticks is
June second, Vampire Weekend June twelfth. The full schedule and
tickets available at Daly's Place dot com.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
All right, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Wonder if Old Dominion is from Virginia. The reason I
asked that is, I mean that's I mean, that's actually
a university in Virginia's University Norfolk, Virginia I don't think
it's in Norfolk.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I bet you it is. You think it is. I
think we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I guess we will. I'm searching Old Oh they're from
from Nashville. Old Dominion.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, nobody's from Nashville. They may have gotten together in Nashville,
but nobody's from Nashville. They chosen because it's the nickname
for the US for the members of the group have
links to Virginia.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
And this is great radio because I'm googling on the air.
It's university Old Dominion. It's in Norfolk. Okay, thank you.
Show you what I know.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I don't even know from there, man, I know this
what the heck?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
All I know is at Norfolk is a great navy town,
it is. And a little bit to the south of
there's got a great place called Virginia Beach. Yes, and
then Sandbridge Beach, a little bit south of Virginia. You
spent some time over there, did you have it? As
a kid, We used to vacation there. It was the
middle of nowhere, lots of sand, lots of sun.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's time to get into these rule change proposals. This
is the time of year we're closing in on the
NFL annual meeting.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Known as the Owner's Meetings. That's at the end of
the month.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So there are rule change proposals, a rule for BiLaw proposals,
and club resolution proposals.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
There are five eight in total. Okay, what do you
got we'll go quick. This is by Detroit.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
They want to eliminate an automatic first down as a
penalty imposed for defensive holding an illegal contact.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I like that. I'm okay with that. We're a defensive guy.
You would like that?
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I mean, look, you know it's it's been such an
offensive slanted way, you know, let them.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I think that's okay.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
But then there's no penalty for holding a guy. You're
just gonna get holding all the time. Why don't you
just grab?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
What would it be?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
It would be a yardage, right, I mean, it's okay,
but it's still if it's not an automatic first down
what they're proposing, then it would be a certain amount
of yardage.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Correct. I don't know there's that proposal that that's that's
the proposal. Okay, what do you got? What else? You got? All? Right? Next?
Green Bay. Basically, they want to eliminate the push.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Play and green Bay needs to shut up, I mean seriously,
and the keeper stop the play, okay, stop complaining about
it being a play that gets people hurt. And somebody, actually,
one of the national analysts puts this out the other day,
and somebody responded with your video of you describing how
(35:13):
to stop it when the Jaguars stopped it twice against
the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Got to beat the center up. That's it. You gotta win.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
And if you look at the Eagles percentage of wins
from new center versus Kelsey the old center, the percentage
of wins dropped a little bit, I believe, imagine that. Yes,
what else you got till Bay needs the man up?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Philadelphia wants to align the postseason and regular season overtime rules.
They want both teams with an opportunity to possess the
ball regardless of the first possession outcome, and a fifteen
minute overtime in the in the regular.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Season, No, leave it the way it is.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Okay, So you like the postseason rule being different, I
do minutes both teams get the ball.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I do not not regular season it's the regular season
is a grind. Don't need to add potentially, because here's
The reality is that coaches will coach differently if they
know that they have a guaranteed possession in overtime.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
And excuse me, in the regular season. So no, I
don't like that. And by the way, defense is allowed
to play defense.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, you can play defense. You can get a team
stopped or hold them to a field goal.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I don't why are they this proposal. I don't know
what else you got. Those are the three playing rule proposals.
There are two club bylaw proposals. They're both by Detroit.
Detroit's been busy.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
They want to amend the current playoff seating FORMATT to
allow wild card teams to be seated higher than division
champions if the wildcard team has a better regular season record.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I do not like this at all. I don't like
that at all. Either. Division championships matter.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It totally matters, and it makes end of the season
games interesting. Okay, So Detroit is just trying to capitalize
on what could have been for then this past year.
If Minnesota had captured the division title, then Detroit would
not have had home field advantage. Correct, But Detroit won
(37:19):
They won a division, Yeah, because they could have lost
the division and then been a non top seed in
the NFC, and they wouldn't have had home games. They
would have gone to a team that had a lesser
record than them. Correct, Well, I don't like that because
you have to have the importance of winning the divisions.
It makes the game and the games at the end
(37:41):
of the year meaningful, totally meaningful.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Detroit was fifteen to two to your point, Minnesota fourteen
and three. Correct, But if Minnesota doesn't like that, you know, don't.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Lose three games. Guess what?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Well, but it was proposed by Detroit. I know, I'm
just saying, which they won the division. So I mean
like you would have thought that Minnesota would have propose that.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Right in general, That's what I'm saying. If you don't
like it as a well, play better, play better when
you know when.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Your division not that That's that's the beauty of saying
it's not that hard that of having divisions?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Is it fair at the end of the day, Is
it fair to have a Minnesota Vikings team that was
fourteen and three that had to go on a road
Who do they play in.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
The first round? Remember how to Curio?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
They played the uh and Rams had a lesser record
and they got they got whooped.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Ye, so well yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I'd like division games. I'd like the importance of division games,
and you can make the schedule, particularly at the end
of year, more meaningful, as the NFL has done over
the last couple of years by having division matchups, And
if you take that away, then I think it lessens
the value of the end of the schedule and it
(38:57):
lessens the value of the division titles. Detroit can stick
it up the word something wow, okay, Detroit, I agree
with you. Another Detroit went on the BiLaw proposal. This
is to exclude from the ninety player limit a player
placed unreserve injured before or on the day of the
roster reduction of fifty three, unless such a player is
(39:19):
designated for returns. It's basically just like a roster management
into the preseason thing.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
So I don't know. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
We all about more guys being available, that's fine. They're
kind of going that way.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
So they're trying to put guys on essentially on IR
before the final cutdowns and still have the capability of
bringing them back to the active RUSS.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, that's kind of the idea. Whatever, It's fine. I'm
okay either way. On that one.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
It doesn't bother me if you limit it, you know,
because you don't want them stashing a bunch of guys
on IR and then all of a sudden, you know,
you don't have other teams that can pluck guys off
of that roster.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I don't know about that. It's got to be limited
in some fashion.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We got three club resolution proposals to get through quickly
here by Pittsburgh. They want to permit clubs during the
two day negotiation period before free agency to have one
video or phone call with a prospective free agent and
his agent, a free agent and the player agent, and
permit clubs to arrange for the players travel upon agreeing
to terms with an unrestricted free agent, so they cannot
(40:22):
talk to the player right now until the start of
the league year. Those two days, they have to talk
technically with the agent during the legal tampering period. That's
all they want to do is to legitimize talking to
the player during the legal tampering period, which I'm totally
okay with.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
It's you know, but then again.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
If you allow that to happen, then all of a sudden,
the illegal tampering period, because there's already illegal tampering going
on before the illegal tampering period.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Now there's going to be even more illegal.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Tampering prior to the illegal tampering period, which you'll be
able to allow to talk to the player. But then
teams will go ahead and try to talk to the
player before the league tampering period if they're now allowed
to talk to the club during that period, not this team.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You see what I mean, It just doesn't end. I mean,
it's just it's a centralest thing. Come on, all right,
next one, we've got seven teams. Baltimore, Cleveland, Houston, Vegas, Minnesota, Philly,
and Washington are proposing to permit clubs to prepare kicking balls,
the k balls before game day, similar to what they
can do for game fo. Well, they used to allow
them to do that, but then they were like put
(41:23):
them in dryers and stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Right, Well, they were yees putting putting them in dryers.
They were rubbing the balls down, they were pressing them essentially,
trying to make the balls fatter, to make them more bouncy,
you know, to get more distance than everything else.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Let them let them doctor them up, you know, as
long as you know as long as each team gets
to doctor the balls, let them doctor the balls better
accuracy on field goals, longer field goals.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
And then one more that's really not a huge deal.
Washington wants to permit clubs that may qualify for the
postseason to get scouting credentials for two consecutive games played
by a potential postseason opponent in the final two weeks
of the regular season. So this is more just kind
of deep, deep football stuff. There you go, we're back
in a moment. Did you hate all these?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Did you? I think we're kind of fitting. I mean,
I'm okay with some. I don't like the playoff seating change,
like keep it as Yeah, that's come on.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
And by the way, why don't we have to have
lasers do the first down this year?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Like what's wrong with the chain game?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
You're gonna try that out instead of so are we're
going to eliminate the chain game?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
No, they're still there as a backup. You sure, that's
what they said. Okay, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Come on, if technology is there, then let's utilize it.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Let's come back in a moment, hold that thought. This
is Jaguars happy hour.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
We've done a lot of really successful things. It's out
every tool in the bag that you needed to successful.
So I told him, like, I'm here to help you
as much as as much as you'd like. I like
to think to my familiarity with the system and concepts
that we're gonna run and the way to operate. I
feel like that's gonna be beneficial for Trevor in the
whole room. And uh, I can't wait to get started.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
That is the voice of Nick Mullens, free agent quarterback
signed by the Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
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Speaker 1 (43:38):
Good Birmingham area guy, Nick Mullins is that right, where
do you go to?
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Spain Park High School? Which didn't exist when I was
in high school? That's how old I am, Okay down
south kind of near Hoover and then he went to
Southern miss Okay. I think you get committed to like
UAB and then just changed went to Southern miss.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I've got a little money under the table and changed
his mind. I don't know what's going on down.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
There whatever, but I mean the guy's been around, he's
had some starts in the league.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
He was even under the table and he was playing
or was it over the table? Oh, I think it
was under back then, you know, if you know, you know.
I think it's a great I don't say great. It's
a good thing that you sign a quarterback that has
familiarity with the system. I think it helps the room.
I think it helps the roster as a whole when
you have a quarterback and that doesn't necessarily, like I said,
(44:28):
not necessarily the starter, but when you're entering a new
era of a new system, to help that along.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
And so I like that.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Good job by Liam and James and Udinsky to bring
in a guy that's got that familiarity.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah the last three years with Minnesota and yeah, I
think it's gonna be interesting. I've kind of I was
asking this question kind of off the record with some
guys coaches, and so when you when you have Liam,
Khane and Udinsky coming in, right, is the terminology now
(45:08):
the same as it was in Tampa. Is the terminology
the same as it was in Minnesota? Or do you
create a completely new language so that nobody knows what
your audibles are? Terminology?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
That's it, right, right? So to what he can use
Rosetta stone and figure out what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
The whole new language, well, I mean it's you know,
it's I think it's interesting. And that's a and from
what I understand that they have completed a new language
for it. Okay, so I'm sure some of the concepts
will be the same, but I'm from what I understand
and I've been told, is that the language is different.
Now how different is probably there's different degrees than all
(45:55):
of that. But I and look, I hope that and
I'm not sure what the what amount of homework Trevor
can do now you know they have all these restrictions
much I mean, you know, they show up in the
buildings where he can be, what he can do, what
he can get, you know, which I think is just
a it's an archaic rule.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Does you make any sense? You should you would propose that, Hey, let's.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Get absolutely absolutely, I mean some of the and look,
I understand why some of the rules have been in
place because of the union negotiated to limit the amount
of time that the players were getting asked to be
at the building. But the last time I checked, I mean,
(46:41):
just like in this football team's case, Okay, you've got
a quarter billion dollars committed to Trevor in contract. I mean,
shouldn't that quarterback be allowed to maybe have meetings with
coaches and learn the system. So I think that's the
part why the rules in place, that some might make
(47:02):
that more than just a hey, if you want to come,
They would make it mandatory, which I mean you could
argue that if you're paying tw hundred and fifty million dollars,
it should be mandatory. Look, it's professional football, Okay, this
is not college football where we're trying. These guys got
(47:23):
classes to go to. Okay, let the players come in
and work out in the building. Let them talk with
the coaches, especially when you have new regimes. I mean,
it makes no sense that you wouldn't encourage that stuff.
I think that the league obviously would like to see
(47:46):
that change. The Union, for whatever reason, holds on to
it like it's some piece of pie that can't be
given up without something great in return. Look, if it's
making the game better, then do it.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
But all right, you were a player REP, You're a VP,
weren't you the Union?
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, and I think this rule is dumb when you played,
would you want this rule in place?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (48:14):
I think there needs to be more access from the
players in the facility and the coaches than what is
what is today, you know. And I'm not saying that
they need to like start coming into work in February.
I'm not saying that, but I mean this restriction that
they have in place about limited exposure with the coaches
(48:35):
and everything is just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Well, they have the rule in where if there is
a head coaching change, you get two extra weeks of
offseason program correct April seventh.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, you get one extra week essentially of OTAs. Yeah,
basically on top.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Of that, right yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
I mean look, I mean, if it's me, I want
to have my quarterbacks and someone guys getting the language
in March if possible. I mean, you know, look for
every team, I think that once their season ends ends,
there needs to be a period of time to where okay,
(49:14):
look can't do anything. And I'm for that, but I mean, yeah,
certain teams that were done the first week of January, right, yeah,
we were one of those, Okay, and now all of
a sudden, Okay, all of January to the first week
of February to the first week of March to the
first week of April. That's three months of essentially, Oh no,
(49:37):
you can't do anything with the coaches.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
You can't do any kind of.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Organized workouts or anything like that. Like I want my
guys in the building being supervised under professionals, okay, instead
of having to be a gym rat somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
It's just it doesn't make any sense. Logs, we made
it through another hour.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
I might again old and cranky or yes, I mean
you're getting very old. And that's not old and cranky though,
is it.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's old? I'll say that.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
I mean shouldn't I mean, shouldn't a quarterback be able
to get a playbook and meet with the coach?
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Jeff Logerman, I'm J. P. Shadwick. Thanks her entire crewch
so fortunate.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Oh, Brent Reab, David Joe brook Hoffey, thanks to you
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